>> to go after mr. putin personally. our goal is to change his calculus with respect to how the current aekzs that he is engaging in in ukraine could have an adverse xwashgt on the russian economy over the long haul and to encourage him to actually walk the walk and not just talk the talk when it comes to diplomatically resolving the crisis in ukraine. >> cycling now. time to walk the walk when it comes to the crisis in ukraine. good afternoon. we a lot to get to today. president obama also addressed those terrible storms over the weekend that claimed several lives. we continue to focus on that tragic trail as we start a new week. more on that ahead. we want tough new sections against -- to get russia to sta stand down when it comes to ukraine, and the president insists this may not be all. >> we are keeping in research additional steps that we could

take should the situation escalate further. >> none of this appears to be phasing putin who today insisted these latest actions by the u.s. will not go without a response from him, and there is no sign of things calming down in the ukraine. just today a staunchly pro-west mayor was shot and nearly killed and mafshged militants have seized yet another city hall. this one located just 100 miles from the russian border. we learned one thing from the president's latest trip. it's that he carries a lot of baggage wrer you goes. he is with us from d.c. he is, of course, the rnlt scholar at the american enterprise institute, and, norm, generally presidents are more policy -- foreign policy focused in their second term. that is the historical pattern. it seems he has been forced into that historical pattern because of what's happening around the fwloeb and what's happening at home in terms of obstruction, which you have written about brilliantly, which makes it impossible to get anything done. it's hard to get things done abroad too. is that because the world has changed, or because obama

perhaps isn't ready for, it or what do you think is going on? >> i think it's much more that the world has changed, and, you know, a president who turns to foreign policy wants to do so because presumably he has more opportunity to move the chess pieces on the board. we don't have much of an opportunity to move chess pieces. it's a reactive time in foreign policy, and, unfortunately for the president as well, when he does go out there to try and turn the focus away from some of the crisises like with his trip to asia, other things intervened and far more often than not when he was in asia, it wasn't so much to talk about az wra as it was about donald sterling. >> it's always good to see you. i think secretary of state john kerry described the current situation with russia best. here's what he said. >> during the cold war, it actually -- it may not have seemed so at the time, obviously to great leaders, but it was easier than it is today.

simpler is maybe a better way to put it. the choices were less varied, more complicated, more stark, more clear. the bipart sfwlan consensus on foreign policy pretty much ended with the he wanted of the cold war. the old way of thinking, you know, that politics ends at the water's edge is really no longer true. how much does our political division here at home impact our ability to maintain healthy alliances around the world like we once did, whether that's in europe with the blij rens of putin or over the pivot to asia where with the rise of china, are we making this harder on ourselves? >> there's just no question about that, abby. you know, you can't get a bipartisan consensus on almost anything in foreign policy, and the tribalism that's taken over means that almost any action that the president takes is going to get pushback from the other side. one thing we ought to know here is that the problems that vex the president in this front are not just all on one side. when he went to asia, i think he was hoping he could announce a triumph with tpp, with the

transpacific partnership on trade, but he has more problems with democrats on the trade front than he does with republicans. the other part of this that's i think carrie was referring to is that during the cold war we knew that almost everything we did, the soviet union was going to oppose us. in this new world obama has hoped for and needed to find some alliances with russia when it comes to dealing with syria as we got and when it comes to tealing with iran which we haven't gotten so much. any action we take against russia on ukraine has broader reprecussions for our interests in other areas of foreign policy, and that makes it just so much harder. >> yeah. >> yeah. absolutely. well, norm, you mentioned the tpp trade deal, which democrats have been very leary of both for economic reasons, environmental reasons, transparency reasons, and politico is asking the question today if democrats are nervous that in the last two years of his presidency after the midterm elections, if the

president is in essence going to give away the store. you know, particularly if republicans are able to take control of the senate, is he going to really be looking for these sort of bipartisan deals, and are republicans finally going to be at a place where they want to accomplish something with this president so that they have some sort of argument to make in 2016 that they're not just all about obstruction? is that a likely path do you foresee that happening? >> i don't really. any steps they make to cut deals that involve compromise wlamz duck president are going to have the base of the party up in arms as well. possibly you're going to have

leaders pushing in that direction, and a president eager to make that work. attempt i think if you find the election working in the favor of republicans, we've already seen that the more moderate members, including some in the senate like saxby chambliss, the ones willing to try to find compromises, and a whole slew of them in the house are leaving. they're not likely to be replaced by people who are looking for bipartisan compromise. i think the president is realistic at this point and understanding that give and take has meant all give and no take, and that's not likely to change. it seems as though we're living through as americans right now a much bigger shift. we have sort of the vestages of an america first uni-poehler ego in our mrekz sxwshgs we see that with all the empty talk about america should be in charge of

everything. we have multi-polar capacity in the sense that we don't want to solve every problem, and you saw that on syria where instead of republicans going to the president's right, they went to his left and said not our problem. we shubt be bombing there. >> yeah. what most republicans, of course, other than john mccain and a couple of others -- >> mccain is his own special out liar. >> that reflects as well, you know, syria's differences within both parties and across those lines. in a multi-polar world we need allies to work with us, and it's not clear that the europeans have the resources to be able to fill some of the gaps that we can't or won't and even now as we have imposed further sanctions, the europeans have much more at risk in their economies by putting the screws to russia and it's not clear that we're going to be able to work in concert with them as we

have, and, you know, here too, the russians did work with us some on the tough sanctions imposed on iran. if we can't get them working with us against -- they'll be much more less effective if we hope to be able to put some pressure to have him step back. >> one more thing before you go, "new york times" reporting on saturday, i believe, that vladimir putin may have a fund of as much as $70 billion making him one of the richest world leaders in history. >> it still leaves him dlars 30 million below the koch brothers, so he has something to strive for after all. you know, if -- i think putin, first of all, has been smart enough to not put it in places where it would be fairly ease

where i to freeze those assets in a lot of the countries who would work with us. at the same time it tells you all you need to know about the cleptocracy that has taken over the former soviet union. corruption is rampant. it's the biggest problem in other countries in the world. it's not just russia. it shows you what an appalling place russia has become under putin's leadership. >> you win another appearance on the cycle. thank you very much. we here are watching dangerous weather shaping up once again in the midwest and the south this hour after the same storm system left a trail of destruction over the weekend. what to expect next as the cycle rolls on. it's monday, april 28th.

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>> brbz. it is the storm cycle in overdrive once again today. right now there are watches and warnksz in effect from the plains all the way south to the florida peninsula. flooding rains, hail, high winds, and most importantly, tornados are now expected along this line, and this is the hour and the worst of it is expected to get up and running. now, take a look here. we've got video from the arkansas democrat gazette. you can see it showing some of the intense damage we've been seeing from this weekend. this is from the town of balance owna. 14 people have been killed in arkansas. one person killed in oklahoma, and another in iowa. forecasters are telling us the threat won't subside until at least midweek. nbc's jay gray is in mayflower, arkansas, which has been hit with the brunt of the storm so far. it's bracing for more.

>> we want goif you an idea of the devastation of what was left from a massive tornado. i'm standing what used to be an automotive center. you can see the debris piled up here. what's left of this building, blooent, three people were actually inside that's what saved their lives. they took a stray kitten they've been keeping here as well. all survived. can you see the 2x 4, the force of the storm that threw it through the sheet rock here. take a look out at the debris field. this is the kind of thing that stretches for miles right now. we're in falkner county. probably the hardest hit. we know at least ten people died in this county. there's concern that that number could go up as teams continue their search. arkansas governor mike bebe talked about it a little earlier today.

right now the preliminary work is primary focused on search and rescue, and then security for the rest of the people to insure that people that don't need to be messing around in areas where they could lewd. >> reporter: you know, it's a difficult process that's really just beginning here. we've seen fema teams on the ground. friends and neighbors. this area of the country already, as you well know, that used the tornadoes, not of this magnitude, but those that didn't suffer losses understand they could be the ones asking for help next. it's important for them to be here and help those that need it right now. >> our thoughts obviously go out to everyone there. i mean, we're looking at a storm of controversy that is swirling today over the l.a. clippers owner donald sterling and his

allegedly racist comments made in a recorded call to his girlfriend. that's led, of course, to a player protest from last night's playoff loss, and is adding to the hype before tomorrow's return of the staple says center. nbc's joe fryer filed this report. >> just like every other game. it really was. that's not -- that's not, you know, sugar coating neglect. >> before this game there was a silent protest. players dumping their warm ups on center court revealing inside-out shirts, concealing the clippers logo. this all comes after tmz sports posted what it says is an audio recording of a conversation between clippers owner donald sterling and his then girlfriend. nbc news cannot verify the recording, but according to tmz sterling was upset stibiano posted this photo with magic johnson on her instagram account. >> if you want to broadcast that

you're associating with black people. do you have to? >> what would you like to see the league do that the point? >> i don't know. honestly, i haven't even thought about it. the league is going to do what they need to do. >> he should stand up and say i don't want to own the team anymore. >> the clippers president said it's not clear if the audio is legitimate or has been altared saying the remarks are who sterling is. the attorney for his girlfriend says the audio is legitimate, but that stiviano did not release the tapes to any news media. sterling did not attend sunday's game, but his wife did. now the playoff series moves to l.a. >> our fans have been amazing all season long, and obviously i hope that it will be the same. >> the clock is ticking here. of course, game five is tomorrow night, and the nba just announced it will hold a press

conference tomorrow to make an announcement about its investigation. now, let's spin. off the top i'll mention, as we all do in the nbc report there, this is a recording that we have not as a news organization independently aught i want indicated, but it is being treated as his voice, and that's what a lot of people feel. what jumps out beyond the obvious, you know, offensiveness of these kind of comments, guys, is that we're looking at another situation where we're talking a lot about words, words matter. we knew everything we needed to know about the public record of irresponsibility there before we got the comments on tape. i'm not an l.a. clippers expert. you read a couple of articles and look back at this guy's record. you see it was an open secret. you see multiple suits about it, including a settlement that he had to do for discriminating against minority renters and homeowners and buildings that he

owned. it brings to mind for me that obviously we need to condemn these words in the strongest fashion and see what the organizations involved want to do, but the larger context of the systemic racism that occurs in different organizations or occurs in different political feuds and isn't really called out until there's something so simple, so quite frankly tmz worthy that that's when people get upset. i join the course of people condemning this, but i think we also have to think long and hard about exposing some of the stuff and having accountable moments even without a tmz recording when the record is so clear and public. >> to your point, though, the writing very much seemed to be on the wall here. they will make a decision in the next 24 hours. probably sometime tomorrow around this time about his fate, and i don't see them doing anything other than dump this guy. this is not just about him. it's about the entire clippers community. this is about the players. it's about the sponsors. it's about the fans. i can't imagine any player would want to be a intonsor or player for him or actually go to these games. i don't see a scenario in which they can make this work other

than just getting rid of him altogether. there is precedent for this. if you remember marge shaukt, a principal owner of the cincinnati reds. she made some anti-semitic, racest comments that forced her to sell her interest. we've seen this happen before. i don't see any reason why we can't do the very same thing with him. >> you know, abby, i hope that you're right. i would like to see. i think most people would like to see donald sterling removed from the nba community. the nba family. adam silver was hired by the owners, right? he is going to be figuring out what happens here. so he is going to do what is best for the nba ownership group. now, when he speaks tomorrow and in the coming days, he will be speaking for the aggregate opinion of the nba owners. are they going to say he is bad for our business and our brand? let's get rid of him? are they going to say, wait a minute now, we don't want adam to be deciding what comments we

may or may not make that will get us kicked out. some are not the most savory folks. some are bank rolling anti-gay marriage initiatives. some of them got rich off of fracking. some are russian olagarchs, and some are passing on the subprime loan debacle. any number of folks could say the tide could turn against necessity. the nba owners group didn't do anything when the doj suit came down that donald sterling lost discriminating against black and brown people in his homes that -- and the apartments that he owned. they didn't do anything then. why do they feel like they have to do something now? krystal, who has significantly changed this time? >> well, i'll tell you what has significantly changed. i think there is a strong case to be made that outside of the moral argument that this guy has no place in the league.

i think also there is a clear case that it is no longer in the nba or the owner's best interest. business interest. to keep him around. that's where yes it's on commissioner silver. yes, it's on the owners to pressure sterling, but it's also on consumers. it is also on players. a mraud the efforts of reverend sharpton to press advertisers to say do you really want to be sponsoring this guy, because that's when this moves from just, you know, moral question and what if we say something untoward in the future, how is this going to play on us, to really impacting the bottom line i can't see any legitimate company that would want to be associated with this individual right now. it is on all of us as consumers and as members of the media and the players to push the nba to do the right thing. there have been concerns raised about, oh, well if he is forced out, there could be an

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mechanic gets a cold, black people get the flu. that means any economic problems for the nation means economic catastrophe for communities of color. income inequality is glowing, but the racial wealth gap is far larger. immediate income for black and hispanic americans were almost $20,000 less than they were for white work nerz 2012. unemployment rates for black and hispanic americans remain more than double the rates for whites and on and on. what are we going to do?

a sold-out summit in d.c. organized by the congressional black caucus is seeking answers. the color of wealth summit starts wednesday and is headlined by nancy pelosi and elijah cummings among others to talk about the summit and et cetera goals. dr. maya rockymora, the president of the center for global policy solutions. welcome, doctor. what do you want to see us do to end this global -- this racial wealth gap? >> well, the reason we got into it is because of public policy. when you really look at the history of this nation, african-americans, latinos, even asian and native americans have been excluded from the mainstream economy for basically much of the nation's history. unfortunately for every one dollar of wealth held by a typical white family, the african-american family only has a nickel and a typical white

latino family only has 6 cents. we still have a long ways to go, and so that's why we're going to capitol hill to really place a spotlight on the importance of public policy and closing this gap. >> well, doctor, one of the policies that we've had to help bring minorities into that mainstream economy has been policies of affirmative action, which has sort of come increasingly under assault. we just saw a decision from the supreme court last week allowing a state constitutional amendment banning affirmative action from universities, but how should we view it is policy of affirmative action and how should we view the goals of affirmative action? it seems to me that it's effective for promoting diverse if i in the workplace, but not for getting to the root of that disparity, of that wealth gap between african-americans and whites in particular. >> actually, i believe it has

been one of the best policies we've actually had for trying to actually get at the root of the wealth gap. affirmative action and other opportunities that have been driven by affirmative action have given african-americans, latinos, those that have been left out of the economy, an opportunity. i like to talk about the fact that, you know, i'm a beneficiary of affirmative action. while my relatives that preceded me were brilliant people, the fact of the matter is that this nation has always excluded them from actually going to school and getting an education. particularly at mainstream institutions. you know, all of us that have benefitted from affirmative action have seen economic benefits, and we need to continue these policies, i think, because frankly, the last 50 years hasn't been enough as the racial wealth gap shows in

terms of the numbers. in terms of advancing this, you need some on board to help pass legislation, and you need conservative or just business owners who are willing to pay their employers more. it soupdz like there were zero business owners or republicans speaking this week. why is that? were they not invite, and how important are their voices in this conversation? >> well, first of all, i'm a business owner as well. i run a firm called global policy solutions. i should let you know that we've invited every single member of congress and their staff, so all members of congress on both the house and the senate have been invited, including republicans. we've also invited four republicans, high profile republicans, to speak, and all of them turned us down. >> why do you think that is? >> i think it's unfortunate. i think there's a culture of fear on capitol hill. i think that they have become so divided, and on the right so driven by this tea party conservativism that doesn't want to see them embrace people of color that they are afraid to

actually take this issue on in a forum perhaps that they don't control, but that being said, we think that this is a bipart sfwlan issue. you know, it was george w. bush that talked about the ownership society. even though we don't agree with his prescription of privatizing social security, the concept of the ownership society is actually the right concept. we need to be fighting poverty and that way people don't just have to rely on income, this they have other things to fall back on when the market economy is not going well. another portion of this is that, you know, jack kemp, a prime xmpl of a republican who has worked across the aisle to really get at this issue of building economic security in low income populations in communities of color especially, and so where is that tradition? >> let's jump in and say, first of all, i appreciate it, and i think it goes to part of where the republican party is, which is they will do racial justice history. we covered it on this show. we gave them some props for

going down to the 509 anniversary of the civil rights act, right? that's something. to that end there is a discussion to make sure that the restitution from some of the mortgages that went south from the big banks and the way they were packaged, that is to say from wall street behavior, not personal behavior, we saw upwards of $50 billion being handed out, and one of the points in your report is that we need reforms to make sure they're hitting -- going to the hardest hit communities. tell us about that. >> yeah. what people don't know is that communities of color lost the most as a result of the subprime mortgage crisis and the combined effects of the great recession. when you look at pre and post great recession figures, communities of color actually lost the highest percentage of

their net worth. when you understand the mate of the st. louis, it has to focus on targeted strategies to help those who are hit the hardest, and, yet, these mortgage settlements that have come out, there's no -- there's been no transparency. we have no notion of whether it's been fair. we are calling for more information so we can get to the heart of that. >> dr. rocky moore. thank you so much. it's an excellent cause. we can't have racial justice without shrinking the racial gap. they say good advice can come from anywhere. even lance armstrong. zach will try to convince us in just a moment. that's going to be a hard sell, zach. in pursuit of all things awesome, amazing,

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"you are not disabled by the disabilities you have. you are abled by the abilities you have." it's pretty inspirational. then you hear who said it. former olympian and accused murderer oscar pistorius. does the fact that it came from a guy who shot his girlfriend suddenly make it bad advice? the new book good advice from bad people selected wisdom from murderers, stock swindlers, and lance armstrong, "new york times" best selling author zach compiles more than 75 nuggets of wisdom from folks who seem to prove good ideas really can come from anywhere. welcome to the table. i really love your book. a lot of good quotes in here. one that stuck out to me, though, was from newt gingrich, and he gives some good advice about honesty. he says the reason that lie detectors work is that the act of lying creates a physical reaction in your body. your pulse quickens. your blood pressure increases. often you begin to sweat. all signs of stress. clearly, your body does not think lying is good. so imagine what it might be doing to your soul. >> whoa. >> it comes more than a decade,

right after he was obviously -- had to get off his speakership, had two affairs, and ended two marriages, and was hitting president clinton at the time for his own infidelities. why is it, though, because there are so many stories like this, that we continue to get great advice from people that can't seem to take their own advice? >> i think it's just way too easy to become an inspirational icon in america, and newt gingrich is a prime example of that. he kind of put himself out as this moral leader, and he said he was, and everyone believed him. then he just fueled on itself, and there's just example after example from our culture of these people that were not good people. >> so, zach, let's talk about lance armstrong. i was until recently a huge fan. i read his -- >> my condolences. >> i read it's not about the bike. really i got a lot personally out of it. found it really inspirational, really moeshational. you have a quote from him in the book. he says winning is about heart. it's got to be in the right place. which just feels so weird and wrong hearing it come from lance

armstrong, but, you know, he did have this sort of dogged determination that people really found compelling. of course, until they found out what he was actually doing. >> right. >> yeah. this was always the question to me is can you kind of take these people, these really flawed humans, and it's alleges a question of, like, was lance armstrong a total fraud, or was he someone who had good intentions and then also just kind of messed up sort of somewhere along the way? >> have we answered that question yet? >> yes, he is a total fraud. >> total fraud. lance armstrong, i think total fraud. >> so i love that you got jimmy swaggert. >> you could do a six-volume series on religious frauds. >> you have swa dw gert saying we must never forget this. anything that tends to debase the human body or pervert is it wrong, sinful, wicked, and then he went and did things that were wrong, sinful, and wicked, and -- >> and then did he it again

after he got caught. he said i talked about it with god, and god said it's none of your business. >> let's roll what he actually said to us. >> i have sinned against you, my lord. >> one of the things i love about the swaggert moment is we get to see the pain of hypocrisy. >> you get to see the kind of theater of hypocrisy. what's funny, he still has a huge church with a big following and a big facebook following and you go on there, and there's a big notoriety at the top that says, you know, only comments about pastor swaggert's recent activities will be accepted. i don't think they want trolls. >> another one of my favorites, donald trump. he is one of yours as well. >> indeed. >> this is just classic. he says, "you have to be confident as you face the world each day, but you can't be too cocky. anyone who thinks is he going to win them all is going to wind up a huge loser." i just love that. >> thrice bankrupt race-baiting baffoon.

>> bhoe. >> he is a bad guy. he is a definitively a bad person, just -- he is not in the -- >> is that the most hypocritical quote in this book? >> what's great is that came from his book survive telling top, which was published -- he got the deal for it right at the peak of his career, and then it came out right when his entire empire in the hurl 1990s was imploding under the weight of way too much debt. he kind of wrote this book about how to survive at the top, and one reviewer at the time, when it was published because it was so ironic, the timing said it's like a marie antionette did a book about keeping my head. the timing was so bad for him. >> is there anybody who is mad at being in the book, maybe suing? >> i just actually sent copies of all of them that are in prison. i haven't heard back yet. we'll see. >> this is really a great book. we are asking you how you came up with this idea, and you didn't know. have you figured it out now? >> no. i mean, you know, donald trump, i guess, is my favorite example. >> you just had to make a whole book off of it? >> have you to. >> it's really good stuff. good advice from bad people. i would recommend it.

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there, madison, yazuth county, and the movement there is northeast around 40 miles per hour. then to the north of that another cell here. tornado warning for attala and holmes county. confirmed tornado located near midway. moving northeast at 45 miles per hour. we'll take a look at the rotation there. my goodness, look at that. another pronounced rotational signature, and you can see where this is relative to goodman and durant. right in here once again very strong rotation, and that is coming towards goodman and durant as that moves northeast very rapidly at about 45 miles per hour. >> tornado emergency for tupelow, mississippi. >> there's now a tornado emergency called for tupelo, miss mess. tornado emergency for tupelo, mississippi. take cover immediately. especially if you live north and east now of tupelo. that tornado is heading towards you. >> all right. that is just an unbelievable rotation signature there, and

we're looking at the live camera once again from wtva in tupelo. i think we may be getting a look at this tornado now. can we bring that out a little bit larger and there it is. there is that tornado. loo there it is. >> it's coming right into -- let's redraw that and get that into the screen writer and what we have here is at least has been reported previously is a multi-vortex tornado, so right in there that's where it is. that is the tornado right there, and this is now coming right into tupelo proper, and a tremendous rotation on this storm as it moves to the northeast rapidly at 50 miles per hour. again, if you are in tupelo, we urge you to take cover immediately. take shelter. you're not going to have a lot of time to figure out the movement on that cell that's as quick as that. >> damage has been reported in parts of tupelo. >> yes. >> there's been damage in tupelo. that's another reason we know that it is happening. >> oh, my gosh. look at this here.

that right there i think that entire thing right there, i think that is a large wedge tornado. >> wow. >> we're looking at it from a little ways away, but we're getting a really good look at it. now, there's power flashes. >> right there. we are clearly. that was actually well outside of the area that i wrout lined. i think maybe the east -- northern side of the storm is probably in here, and then it looks like part of that tornado is actually being obscured by rain where we just saw some power flashes in here. it's very humid out there, and when it's humid like that, it's a lot more difficult to see the storms. it's very different from what we see in the plains, for example, when you have a dryer environment and the air is much clearer, and you get a good look at these things long before they get to you. storms across the south can be very dangerous because you don't get a good look at them. there are a lot of trees, of course, in a good part of the south, and they have very low bases so, you just have this murky mass here, and then you see this darkness, and it looks like the wind is -- >> look how shaky it is. >> it's really beginning to

bother this camera. zoo work for wtva. do you know where this camera is set up? do you have any idea? >> i actually don't think there was a camera at wtva when i was there. that was a long time ago. that was 1991. i'm not sure that they even had one at the time, but, you know, we're just seeing a tremendous signature. let's go back to the radar picture and show you the scan there in tupelo. look at that. wow. that is just an unbelievable storm that is now moving right into tupelo. there is the velocity signature, and that is a pronounced velocity signature, and we'll check some other perimeters once again. not seeing quite as much of a hook right now. you know, we talked about the fact that the tornado is largely obscured, and this is evidence of that where sometimes you see a very clear hook-like pattern. there's still evidence of that there, but you see a lot of rain now associated with this tornado, so it's really becoming rain-wrapped. the rain is getting involved, and that makes it even more dangerous because you can't see it coming at all. you have so much rainn involved with the storm.

then as we look at it, there does appear now -- we haven't seen much evidence until now, but that i think could very well be what we call a debris ball there or of debris right to the west of tupelo, that low correlation, that means non-meteorology cal targets. and then right in there you have irregular shapes that could be branches, trees or structural damage. i think that's what we're seeing in there. i think that's an indication there is debris in this particular storm. >> so it caused the damage, the da debris gets picked up, and then it's picked up by the radar. can you show me where the large hail? >> tremendous hail off to the north there. that's getting up into gunn town and saltillo.

this is called vil density when we start to see the values in pitching getting into white, that's a clear indication of golf ball and larger size hail. that's now just west the tupelo. so a very well-defined tornado now showing up there. then right in here is that -- that tremendous circulation. don't know if we still have the camera. can we go to the live camera? >> let's talk about the highways. can we put those on there? >> this is 45. this is 45 right through here. >> interstate 45. >> we have a new image from

tupelo, mississippi this is the new radar image from tupelo, so the center of the circulation right over tupelo, just west of interstate 45, that squiggly line. and county road 811. >> that's exactly right. 45 is that road that runs from tupelo, down to columbus, farther to the north. the one that basically runs northwest down to the southeast, that is in the tupelo area, and just getting a look at that right now. it's taking a while to come in unfortunately. >> just a reminder, we're following a tornado that's been confirmed, damage has been done. a tornado emergency is in effect for tupelo, mississippi right now. that's why we're focusing in on this area. there's been damage.

it's a strong rotation in the cloud. we've had video confirmation. we've had reports of damage, reports of a multirho tex tornado spinning toward tupelo. near the tupelo mall is the latest report. >> let's go back to the gibson ridge, because i want to show what's going on with that once again. we have this largest circulation right in here, but then within that is a smaller circulation. that is the tornado itself. that now appears to be just to the northeast of downtown tupelo. just to the northeast of the intersection of 45 and 78. again, as mentioned. this, by the way, that little ball right there. see where the ball corresponds to the arrow yous i put on there where the tightest circulation was? that is most likely the debris,

but again all this heavy rain, and like some situations where you have a well-defined hook echo, you can see it here, but also a lot of rain in there. this tornado is obscured by this particular storm. let's look at that debris ball on the radar picture. once again, right in there, that's that very he reflectivity that is -- oh, my gosh, look at that. wow, let's go back -- >> just another report of a large wedge-shaped tornado in tupelo. >> this is just awful to see this, dave. once again we talked about the tornado being just north and east of 45, so he is 4578 -- put a white line on here. this is 45, then here is 78. the tornadoes is right if in there. that is that low correlation coefficient. that's a clearly defined area of debris that means that storm has done a lot of damage.

>> because it's going through tupelo. it's picking up pieces of things. >> right. >> it's moving northeast. if you live in unity, that tornado is coming towards you in moments. it's done damage. there's a tornado emergency now in tupelo. the cleanup will begin shortly. marietta, mississippi, that tornado is headed toward you right now. >> this just breaks my heart to see this. this is just awful that's a very well defined debris signature coming across tupelo. getting words that it's hitting the mall on the north side of tupelo about two miles north of downtown. there again, right where that ball is that is where the tornado is located right there. that's the rotational signature. look at that. that's what we call a tornado vortex signature. so here we have the larger circulation in the storm, but a tighter circulation right there. that is the tighter circulation that has just come through tupelo. again we're seeing that

tremendous area of debris as a result of that, and it's just very upsetting, no matter how many times you see this, dave. i think the more you see this, as a matter of fact, it gets more and more upsetting. >> just proof that the tornado has done damage. we hope and pray that everyone has survived this, as it moves through a city of 15 or 20,000 people. we just saw a video of reed timer, a whole lot of rain where he was. reed, we hope you're staying safe. >> we'll look at some of the other warnings that are now in effect. we said to get farther to the south of tupelo, a tornado warning there. we've got some tornado warnings to show. we're going to go through the whole list. there's a whole string of storms than being warned on. in this entire area, all of the parameter have come together where it's warm and humid air, very unstable atmosphere, and then you have this wind shear,

which leads to the longlasting super cell storms. so first of a a tornado warnings for madison and yazoo counties, to shows through some rotation there another tornado warning too tell you about, that includes kosciosko. right in here is where the possible tornado may be headed towards durant and eventually cosciusko. the movement here has yenly been very fast, on the order of 45 to 50 miles per hour. there is the rotating part of that particular storm. let's go to the storm to the north of that, shawn, another tornado warning up right across

82. this is not very far away from starkville, mississippi. mississippi state university. it's off to the west. this is montgomery and webster counties. the tornado is going to be sitting right in there. look at that, wow, another very pronounce robust rotational signature, right along highway 82, and just east of winona, so please take cover there. maybe we could put the tracker to see what cities -- at some point all along 82 there. we'll extend that out. again the motion has generally been northeast at about 45 miles per hour, so that will take it up into kil december michael. my nervea, embry, so please take cover in those towns immediately, as we have a very serious storm, montgomery and webster county. another warning for chickashaw,

east of houston, another warning to the east of that. that's just now right on top of monroe, and that includes fulton county. not seeing as much evidence of rotation there, not as much as the tupelo area. >> let's get back to tupelo. wow, just an incredible rotation. right in here, that is the -- let's go back to reconflictivity. the rain is wrapping into this large area of circulation, the rotating up draft. you have been watching breaking coverage of the tornado outbreak from our friends over at the woich. they and we will continue to track this line of storms. we'll bring you the details as they break. now with alex wagner starts now. how many fouls do you get in the nba before they take your team away? it's monday, april 28th,ened this is now.

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