bit. >> it will be in the profile when written, once got thrown out of a donkey show in amsterd amsterdam. >> how does one get thrown out of a donkey show -- >> i didn't get in. >> you learned about twitter today? >> i learned about #ineedthisjob. >> coming up, "the daily rundown," unfortunate picture, guys. unfortunate picture. numbers crunch. our new poll has some ups and downs for the president ash tie that bodes well for the republicans and hillary clinton hurting a bit from the barbara bush rule. money matters. a rare sight in the next hour with former supreme court justice john paul stevens

testifying on capitol hill. and banned for life. the nba commissioner says there's what legal case to oust the clippers owner from the league. we'll get reaction from hall of fame are isaiah thomas. good morning from a very rainy washington. it's the last day of april, april 30, 2014. i'm chuck todd. i'm jet lagged but i don't know how. i don't know what day it is. we'll have the latest on the flooding and the tornadoes in just a few minutes. right now i want to get to my first read of the morning and it's all about the new poll. there's good news for the president, his poll numbers are better. the bad news, the numbers still aren't good. his numbers are the highest in months, but that job rating is

still just 44%, well under a number that's likely to make endangered democrats feel secure heading into the mid-terms. as one pollster puts it, it's the difference between going from five rundowns to two. worse, by the way, for democrats, just 29% of independents approve of the president's job performance. still for the first time since the health care launch, the president's personal rating is right side up again. 44 % view him positively, 41% negatively. 46 see the health care law as a good idea, and 38% see it as a

bad decision. and now the country is almost evenly divided whether the law is working well or whether it needs minor changes or a major overhaul or full repeal. that's better news for democrats. overall, the president and his party still have to brace for a tough mid-term season. 45% of voters want a republican congress, 38% want a democratic congress. who are the high interest voters? drilling down into the group of voters who tell us their interest level in this election is a 9 or a 10, you see this republican advantage. unsurprisingly, seniors are engaged more than young voters, republican voters are more interested than democratic voters. conservatives are more interested that liberals, 63%

compared to 49%. romney voters are more interested than obama voters and while there is a big gender gap in the congressional ballot, it not as wide as democrats need. republicans need among men, democrats lead among women. democrats have to have a bigger lead among women than the gop has among men to have a successful 2014. in addition to the president's approval rating being below 50%, just 27% believe the country is headed in the right direction and a majority of americans believe that the current economic and political system is stacked against them. the other takeaways from our poll, as a showdown with russia preoccupies washington and the president tries to juggle crisis in ukraine and the middle east, americans across party lines want americans to simply disengage from the world. a full 47% say that they want the u.s. to be less active in global affairs.

this is the highest number on this question that we've ever recorded. just 19% call for more active engagement. and approval of the president's foreign policy is at his lowest level of his presidency and on russia and ukraine, just 37% approve of hough he's handling the issue, down 6 points from earlier. >> mrs. bush, would you like to see your son jeb run? >> he's by far the best qualified man but no, i really don't. i think it's a great country, there are a lot of great families and it's not just four families or whatever. there are other people out there that are very qualified and we've had enough bushes. >> well we shall polled the question. it turns out a whopping 69% of americans agree with barbara bush. most say her statement applies

ekwlal to both jeb bush and hillary clinton. but our poll finds hillary clinton is more personally popular where bush is not. bush's favorable rating is lower and his numbers are actually worse than they were a year ago the more he's gotten out into the public spotlight. joining me now are our bipartisan polling team, democratic pollster fred yang and republican pollster mica roberts. fred, mika's boss said these are better numbers, they're not good. >> you can't get good until you get better. >> is this the first time ever that his approval rating is higher than both foreign policy and the economy? >> yes. >> i don't think i've seen that

for any president. >> we're trying to see what's responsible for this -- >> it's all health care. >> i think it's health care. >> mica, when you see these numbers and see the repeal question is basically 50/50 on health care now, saying major changes or repeal or just minor changes, does that mean republicans should alter their message a little bit? >> i think if you look across this poll you see numbers that reflect exactly where the nation was in late october 2010 before republicans went on to have an historic win in the house, pick up six seats, right direction, wrong track is exactly where it was. the president's approval rating is exactly where it was and the health care law continues to be very unpopular. so, no, i don't think -- >> so you don't see anything has really changed here? >> i don't think there's been serious fundamental changes in the electorate or how things look compared to last month's poll where we had a record low approval for the president. >> very quickly?

>> i think nothing has changed since 2010, but i also think nothing has changed since 2008 and 2006. the american public is still extremely frustrated. i think the big question for the election coming up is how much will president obama actually be a marker for this election given people know -- >> hard to imagine he won't be. >> ifthe there's a change from 2006, it's the intensity level. >> i want to go the foreign policy, micah, that was a dramatic number. look at march 14 versus september 2011 and it's almost a flip of more active to less active. this is a country that just wants to retreat. >> we have to put that september

11, 2001 -- >> no doubt. >> after that dramatic event of september 11th, you couldn't get into the 50% of rain of wanting to get more involved is pretty dramatic. and it goes across party line, which is a very important part of the electorate and how people are going to be looking at issues, international issues moving forward through 2016. >> being pro active on national security is not going to be good politics in 2016 whether you're democrat or republican. while the preference for a the president's foreign policy, i think for the most part the public is saying obama is getting it exactly where they want it, even as they

disapprove. >> i was going to say, even as they disapprove, he is fundamentally sort of where the american public is right now. >> i want to go to the mid-term electio elections, micah. amateur viewers are our poll are going to say it's a tie, 45 to 45. i look at the undecided number in the generic ballot and they have an approval rating of the president of 29%. >> you can't forget or fail to mention that independents prefer republican-controlled congress 2-1, which is a stunning number that reflects something preshutdown, october 2013 pre-shutdown and republicans have come back to the republican party since that time and they dipped down low between those points. >> an interesting election number, fred. >> elections in mid term is about persuasion and turnout.

we have a challenging environment not just because we're democrats. because our president of our party is seeking his sixth year. so the persuasion is going to be tough for us with these numbers. i think the other element of this is enthusiasm or interest. in our poll there is a block of people who voted in 2012, didn't vote in 2010, the democrats are ahead 55-33. are all those people going to vote? no. are half those people going to vote? no. but if we can get enough of those people to vote in certain states and disabilities. >> that's the survival group. that's where they'll determine whether the democrats survive the mid terms, which means hold the senate or not. a lot of buzz will be about the barbara bush question, the clintons and bushes. i want to focus on jeb bush's numbers here. as jeb has become more public about running, that's got to be a little disappointing for him.

>> over the same time, hillary clinton has dropped below 50. the political world, the landscape is littered with the ed muskies, the hillary clintons of 2006, the ted kennedys who were supposed to win the nomination. >> chris christies. >> and politics is a crazy game and that's why we're in it. we love it. >> the interesting thing when we have rand paul on this one is the compare of rand paul and jeb bush. nonparty republicans prefer jeb bush, tea party republicans are basically the base of rand paul. >> the thing about mrs. clinton and bush is he can't run against her, or whoever, unless he wins the republican nomination. i would say these numbers suggest he is maybe the front-runner in the magazines

but in the heartland he may not be. >> what's interesting about hillary clinton, i was comparing them to barack obama's, she's basically a ahead of him among whites, ahead of him among hispanics and only slightly behind him among african-americans. if she's got that coalition going in, seems like that's a better place to be now than in ' 6, right? >> that would be good. >> now to developing news on the dangerous weather that's been hitting a large part of the country, including down in florida. governor rick scott just declared a state of emergency in 26 counties dues to severe flooding across the panhandle. the state has also just closed ten miles of i-10 near pensacola because of standing water and at least two people have died in the flooding and hundreds of drivers are stranded. the scary situation also forced schools in one county to close today. in nearby mobile, alabama, firefighters had to rescue a man forced to cling to a tree when

the nearby creek flooded. the area got some 20 inches of rain in the last 24 hours. >> meanwhile, national guard troops are still searching neighborhoods in mississippi, hoping to find survivors from the tornadoes. joining me is bill karins. the south bracing for another day of severe weather. do we need to be concerned more about flooding, tornadoes? >> the flooding won't be as bad as what we saw this morning. we will see isolated tornadoes, but compared to the last three days and all the destruction that's been done, it won't be quite as bad today. it will be the least of the damage done. now, yesterday and then this morning it poured in pensacola. this was sent to me by a weather watcher. this is 24 1/2 inches of rain. can you imagine that? that's in 24 hours. that's why we're having this historic epic flow -- >> it's low-lying area. don't forget that. >> and we had on-shore flow,

too. this is a picture at sunrise of downtown pensacola. all that water is not supposed to be there. that's about 2 to 3 feet of standing water in the downtown area. there's been many water rescues throughout the region overnight. this wasn't just isolated. it was from mobile all the way to panama city. all of those locations have had about half a foot to a foot of rain in the last 24 hours. it's a miserable day for travel in the northeast. right now we've got windy conditions and rainy conditions, airport delays for you -- as far as the severe threat goes today, 36 approximately people at risk of severe thunderstorms and maybe even isolated tornadoes, it goes from where chuck is located there in washington, d.c. all the way down to

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oklahoma governor, mary fallon, has issued an immediate investigation and stay of excuse for one man. so last night oklahoma corrections officials were using a new three-drug injection combination and it took lockett 43 minutes to die. witnesses say he clenched, thrashed, clenched his teeth. >> this is a horrible thing to witness. one of the things he said is "something's wrong," he said "man" at one point and he kept trying to raise up. >> charles warner was scheduled to be executed. but in the wake of the first

execution, governor fallon postponed the second injection. there's no set protocol for the drug combination in oklahoma. you have other states, texas, georgia, missouri, they've been refusing to reveal their ingredients. >> are they safe, are they legal, have they been imported from back alley suppliers, as has happened in some cases? have they been made by unregulated companies? this is the thing that we never want to happen but it's our fear and the reason that we need to have complete transparency in the process. >> governor fallon gave charles

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to the case of mckuchen versus the fec. that discussion eliminated caps on aggregate donations because the court said the voter is less important than the man who provides money to the candidate, it's really wrong. according to the sunlight foundation, more than a quarter billion dollars is undisclosed and they flood campaigns. that was the money in the fall of 2012. with the mccutchen decision on the books, the assumption is it will be more in 2016. a bill is being introduced to force the disclosure of any contribution over $1,000. but the push to dismantle campaign finance laws seems to

be moving more quickly. joining me is senator angus king. good morning, sir. >> good morning to you. >> why do you think justice stevens' voice is necessary in this debate? >> he's been attuned to this issue a long time. he wrote the lead dissent in citizens united. he's a distinguished jurist, 35 years on the court, understands the constitution and has an important perspective. following him at the hearing, we're having a group of republican and democratic people, experts in campaign finance. i don't think people realize the explosion of outside money where it's getting to the point where it's more than the candidates spend and in many cases we don't know where it's coming from. >> in most cases it's now outside groups outspend the

candidates themselves. we just saw it in a special election in florida and all the competitive races, i think we know that's going to be the case. now that the court has essentially said money is speech, you want to do this disclosure bill. instant disclosure, how is it that you believe you can get it -- i know in federal campaign donations it's pretty easy for congress to legislate this. how do you legislate it for groups that were 501-c 3s that get around the legislation. >> they're conduits for political money. we believe there are statuary ways we can do it. in both citizens united and mccutchen, an 8-1 majority invited congress to do something about disclosure and they said disclosure is the best bulwark

that we have. the problem is the bulwark is not there now and we don't have good disclosure laws. >> would you prefer a system that 250 $1,000 checks be written to candidates rather than a $250,000 check be written and a year later find out who wrote the check? >> if the choice is dark versus disclose, i think that's better. in maine, you can't go to a maine town meeting with a bag over your head. if you're going to state your opinions and state your views, you got to come up and say who you are. i think that's a fundamental part of our democracy. as i said, disclosure is the tool the supreme court has left us so we have to figure out how to do it and how to cover everybody so that there aren't these byzantine, round-about way

to disclose it. >> there's been talk about who you could caucus with come next year. so it's possible you could caucus with the republicans if you're in the majority? are you going to say to maine voters which ever party is in the majority in the senate is who you caucus with? >> no, i'm not going to say that at all. i'm going to do what's best for maine. that's what i've been saying for three years. this arose out of a kind of -- it was a tempest in a tea pot really. you know, i am doing -- i'm calling them as i see them -- >> so could you switch? >> sometimes with the republicans, sometimes with the democrats. >> so you could switch. >> that's a hypothetical question. let's wait and see what happens. >> but you're not ruling it out. >> i'm not ruling it out, i'm not ruling it in. i'm going to give you the same answer. >> do republicans need five seats or six seats to win the

senate? they need five if your vote is up in the air? >> the math i'm doing today is on campaign finance, not on who controls the senate. >> we look forward to your hearing. it seems that disclosure should be something that's easy for bipartisan senators to agree on. >> i hope so. >> up next, bouncing basketball. what happens to the owner of the clippers, donald sterling, when we come back. ameriprise asked people a simple question: in retirement, will you outlive your money? uhhh. no, that can't happen. that's the thing, you don't know how long it has to last. everyone has retirement questions.

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fans protested outside the staples center. we learned the warriors planned to leave the court if silver's punishment wasn't seen as tough enough but silver delivered. he handed down perhaps one of the harshest punishments in the history of sports. >> effective immediately, i am banning mr. sterling for life from any association with the clippers organization or the nba. as for mr. sterling's ownership interest in the clippers, i will urge the board of governors to exercise its authority to force

a sale of the team and will do everything in my power to ensure that that happens. i fully expect to get the support i need from the other nba owners to remove him. >> there's been no official response from sterling, but before the decision was handed down, sports reporter jim gray said sterling told him that the team wasn't for sale. the response from current and former players, though, has been overwhelming. shaquille o'neal tweeted way to go, commissioner silver, the nba stands for everybody. magic johnson, who had been part of the photos that triggered sterling's rants in the first place said silver did the right thing. >> i'm just happy that commissioner adam silver came down hard and showed that we can't let people get away with this. >> the next step is to get the

other nba owners to agree with silver's recommendation to force sterling out. so far it appears that won't be a problem. nearly two dozen owners actually have already spoken out, all praising the commissioner's decision and promising to support him. that includes maverick's owner mark cuban, who had previously questioned whether banning someone for private comments represented a slippery slope. as for the playoffs, they continue tonight with three more games scheduled. but for those at the center of this controversy, it may be tough to move on just yet. >> is this over? no, it's not over but it's the start of a healing process that we need and it's the start for our organization. you know, to try to get through this. >> joining me now nba hall of famer isaiah thomas. by the way, happy birthday. >> thank you, thank you very much. >> everybody's going to know how old you are but we won't say it.

i'm sure you're still young enough to beat me playing basketball. you made some interesting remarks yesterday, saying we are a forgiving, compassionate society and i think that should extend to all, not just one. does that mean to you if donald sterling has a heart-felt apology that maybe you would be able to forgive him in such a way that it would be enough for you to be okay with him owning an nba team? >> no, punishment was administered and there's a healing process now that needs to come after the punishment and i think we all need to be compassionate in the healing process. >> what's interesting about sterling is that he had a reputation inside the league. how prevalent was it to you? did you know in your heart of hearts that this guy was a racist or had racist views? or did you just know of him as a belligerent owner, not a very player-friendly owner? >> i always had professional

dealings with him, and in my professional dealings with him, i never saw this side of him or never heard these type of comments or language coming from him. >> do you think it's incumbent upon -- a lot of people say it sounds like doc rivers is uncomfortable coaching this team right now and not sure if he'll come back next year. do you think it's incumbent on coaches and players that they interview the owners, much in the same way owners like to do background checks on owners. do you think it's incumbent for coaches and players do that with owners? >> i don't know if it's necessary, if it's at that point. but as a society at large, it's this racial conversation or racialization that goes along in

our society is a place where we can have this conversation in sport and it needs to be uplifted and elevated and continue out into society and outside of the playing field and into society where we can have intellectual dialogue and dialogue that moves up forward as opposed to taking us backwards. >> how important do you think it was to show sort of the advancement of society that there was no debate about sterling, there was no left-right debate. nobody came to this guy's defense. there wasn't anybody even making excuses for him, oh, he's old, it's a generational thing. >> i think the leadership showed by adam silver, the commissioner of the nba, not only did he speak for sports, but he also spoke for society. and the values and morals that we try to have in sport, the character and the lessons learned that we teach in sport, those mirror society. and we -- this is the place, again, where america has come to

have very tough discussions around race, around gender, around class and we hope that in sport and in the nba, we can continue to be the leaders of these type of discussions and through our sport and through the sport that we teach to the youth, they can learn lessons in terms of character building and how to get along with one another? >> sports has led the way. 17 years before there was a civil rights act, there was jackie robinson. isaiah thomas, thanks very much and, again, happy birthday to you. >> thank you and thank you for having me. >> i want to bring in howard beck, a columnist for the bleacher report. is the nba like a private club that can decide who's a member and who isn't as a private institution? they don't have to worry about sort of federal laws in some

cases because they can decide who gets to have a franchise and who doesn't? >> they certainly get to decide who gets to have a franchise and it is an exclusive club when you're talking about the owners. when you have somebody buying into the club, they're fully vetted. in terms of the flip side of it, kicking an owner out, there's really no precedent for this in the nba. what adam silva laid out yesterday is an unprecedented event. they've never tried to boot someone and their constitution does lay out some provisions for removing an owner but it's not an all-together clear whether it covers this situation. >> if baseball had a financial incentive to do it, got rid of frank mccourt. that's the most recent example of any of the leagues, essentially telling an owner you're not allowed in the league anymore, couldn't they make an argument that sterling's mere

presence is a financial burden on the entire league? we already saw so many sponsors pull out from the clippers, but that hurts the entire league. >> i'm sure that's part of the case that they will probably try to make. it really kind of depends on how much donald sterling decides to fight this. if he doesn't fight it, they can simply remove him. they have the provisions with a three-quarter vote to expel him and force the sale. if he challenges, they'll have to build some kind of case. article 13 of their constitution and bylaws allows removal of an owner based on failure to meet financial obligations or gambling provisions. there's nothing about moral fortitude. >> will he make a financial rational decision? i'm just a layman here but it seems to me the team is worth more today this afternoon it will be in a week, than it will be in a month, particularly if he files suit.

the longer he holds on, the less valuable the team is, doc rivers wouldn't come back, players won't come back. is he going to make a rational decision or make a litigious decision and sue? >> he is a litigious guy. i don't think anyone thinks he'll go a quietly but that remains to be seen. >> thank you. much more to come here on tdr. for the soup of the day, at spike seafood, it's lobster bisque. [ male announcer ] ortho crime files.

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quick update about what's going on in the panhandle in florida. florida governor rick scott said florida's i-10 is open but the area got at least 20 inches of rain. 28,000 homes are without power. the governor is warning everyone to still exercise extreme caution. >> what's scary right now is we continue to see what we have here, continue to see rain, which means we're going to have more flooding. we still have people that have asked for evacuations that have not been evacuated yet. we've had a little over 300 and we've done i think 211 evacuations so far. >> very low-lying areas in the panhandle. >> turning to ukraine, the acting president the company's armed forces are on full military alert in case of a russian invasion but they are helpless to suppress the separatist movements. tuesday pro-russian men in

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