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>> he's still lifting his shoulders and head off the gurney, grimacing. >> he was struggling but those are the words he got out, man, i'm not and something's wrong. >> seemed like he was trying to get up. at 6:39 they lowered the blinds. >> we didn't know what was happening on the other side of the blind. we didn't know if he was dying or pumping drugs in him. >> governor mary fallen ordered a review of procedures in her state after the execution of clayton lockette went horribly wrong. you're looking at the state capitol in oklahoma city where any minute we're expecting to hear from the governor. the state had planned back-to-back executions last night using a new untested three-drug lethal injection combination. 38-year-old lockette was given the death sentence for the 1999 murder of a 19-year-old woman who was shot and buried alive. witnesses say soon after the drugs were administered,
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lockette began struggling violently, groaning and writhing. after several minutes officials pulled the curtain on the death chamber. lockette eventually died of a massive heart attack. >> it was determined that he was sedated approximately seven minutes into the execution. at that time, we began pushing the second and third drugs in the protocol. there was some concern at that time that the drugs were not having the effect. >> 46-year-old charles warner was scheduled to be put to death an hour later for the kidnapping and rain of an 11-month-old girl. but in the chaos following lockette's execution, governor fallen ordered a 14-day stay of the execution while officials evaluate the lethal dosage protocol. before last night that drug protocol had been the source of fierce legal debate. several companies are refusing to supply the drug because of
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growing backlash and threats of attack. they refused to make the names of their suppliers public. now, critics of the death penalty like the aclu of oklahoma are calling for a moratorium on executions altogether. joining me now, sister seimone sam bell, author of "a fnun on the bus." thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> in a case like this, sister, where you have a crime that is horrific. >> yes. >> a person for whom no one has sympathy but you have a process for the state, the state killing this person, is also horrific. how do you balance the justice being meated out to someone who
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everyone believes did it and the state not being involved. >> for me as a person of faith, my faith teaches that all life is treasure, all life has dignity. and even the most horrific -- person who commits the most horrific crime has a dignity that should be respected. the state killing in my name is wrong. it is as horrible as any other murder. and so from my faith i say, no, capital punishment is not the way to go. what we've been trying to do is use these drugs so it masks the reality of killing this horrific event last night raised up the fact that is killing and it's wrong. >> it takes me back to the thomas edison era when they first experimented with using the electric chair as opposed to hanging or firing squad. there's all of this sort of methodology is what we're arguing about, how to do it. we still aren't arguing about whether or not to do it. >> right.
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sister health pre -- helen pre prejean has worked on this issue, the issue that's based in the common good. it is never within the common good to kill another under any circumstance. yes, being in jail, being in prison, that's an appropriate response. but killing in the name of the common good? that is totally out of kilter. >> we do now have the jay carney statement he made during the white house briefing about the failed execution or about the botched execution. let's listen to that now. >> in this case, these cases, the crimes are indisputably horrific and heinous. but it's also the case that we have a fundamental standard in this country that even when the death penalty is justified, it must be carried out humanely.
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i think everyone would recognize that this case fell short of that standard. >> so i mean, sister seimone, this is on the scale of wrongs, trying to do this horrible thing that we do, this thing that is legal in the united states, to do it more humanely, is there room on the social justice side of the argument to focus on that? on that piece, on doing this thing that you find to be wrong but doing it humanely? >> well, i think at a minimum, that if states are going to pursue it, it needs to be done in a way that does not shock our conscience like last night's event does. the other factor that needs to be looked at is the economic analysis that who is subject to the death penalty. on capitol hill today, there was a lot of conversation about poverty and about the cycle of poverty. one of the great factors is those who get sentenced to death are often those, i think, always almost those from low-income
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communities, so that poverty, race and other factors need to be looked at as we examine this horrific event that happened last night. >> of course not in this particular case but you also do have the fact that a study recently found that of more than 7,000 death sentences, 1.6% of those people on death row had been exonerated. you also do have this other issue of not being able to be 100% certain and given more resources, apparently, 4% of more than 200 people who have been exonerated, 200 people who would have been wrongly put to death had they not had their cases re-examined. there's that risk, too. >> absolutely. we as a society should err on the side of affirming life. the other point is someone who lives in prison with the knowledge of what they did, i think that in some ways is a much more painful -- not in the physical sense of reality but having to assimilate what you've done, there's a greater chance for conversion for change and
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for being a better person as a result of it. it's a better way forward in society. >> not to mention our being in a fraternity of nations that do this with syria and north korea. sister seimone, thank you for being here. >> thank you. honored to do it. the powerful storm system that's cut a trail of death and destruction across the south. florida governor rick scott declared a state of emergency in 26 counties due to severe flooding across the pan hand. this picture from pensacola shows how bad it is. entire streets have been turned into rushing rivers. crews are going house to house to rescue residents who are trapped on the second floors of their homes. in mississippi, national guard troops are searching neighborhoods hoping to find survivors of this week's tornado outbreak. the national weather service reports 130 tornadoes and at least 30 weather-related deaths since sunday. up next, congressman paul ryan meets with members of the congressional black caucus after his controversial comments on
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poverty and, quote, inner city culture. that should be interesting. donald sterling is banned for life but the saga over the clippers owner is far from over. nba hall of famer lenny wilkins and former clipper norm nixon will join me, just ahead. gum looking for a us,watch this! captain: when i'm looking for a hotel with a wet pool, i go to hotels.com. you can get up to 50% off with their private sales. that man's privates are no longer private.
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there's a real culture problem here that has to be dealt with. >> uh-huh. the tape doesn't lie. it caused an uproar. ryan later said he had been inarticula inarticulate. who knew charles murray, the guy that wrote the bell curve was offensive to anybody. here's what was said after today's meeting wrapped up. >> we appreciate chairman ryan coming to our meeting. didn't get a whole lot accomplished but we do agree on a number of things, one is that we are both concerned about the poverty in this country. we just disagree on how we address the problem. >> what is good out of this, we need to talk about better ideas on getting at the root cause of poverty to try and break the cycle of poverty. >> okay. that's not exactly what you'd call a breakthrough. congressman ryan claims he wants to help the poor. he even has ideas for that which you can find in his latest budget proposal which repeals the health care law even after 8 million people signed up for it
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and it guts every program men the to help people who are left out of the economic poverty, including turning medicare into a voucher. it ends funding for pbs. paul ryan wants to fire big bird. that must have been an interesting meeting. joining me now, california democrat barbara lee, one of the members of the congressional black caucus. congresswoman, thank you so much for being here. >> my pleasure. >> before i get to that, i want to circle over, just let you know the minimum wage bill was just defeated which i'm sure you know. i want to give you a chance to weigh in on it after listening to harry reid's statement about what just happened. take a listen. >> raising the minimum wage is so important. people care. people desperately need this money. we are happy to compromise. but we are not going to compromise on locking people in to poverty. >> so congresswoman you were
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just having a meeting talking about -- to congressman paul ryan about poverty and right over in the other chamber, a bill to raise the minimum wage fails. your thoughts? >> well, let me say, joy, thank you for inviting me to be with you. i have to say i'm very, very sad. and really, you know, unbelievably shocked that the senate would not pass raising the minimum wage minimally. we want a living wage. when you raise the minimum wage, this lifts millions of people out of poverty. they did pass, however, the extension of unemployment compensation. here speaker boehner won't even allow the extension of unemployment compensation legislation to come up here on the house floor. you know, in california, that's 513,000 people who have lost unemployment. they're living on the edge, on the brink. combined with the extension of unemployment compensation, not being passed, now not being able to raise the minimum wage,
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you're talking about a scenario that's going to force more people to live below the poverty line. it's really a shame and disgrace and the wealthiest and most powerful country in the world, joy. for the life of me, i don't understand why republicans don't believe that many in their districts are living below the poverty line. many are part of the working poor. they've got to begin to represent their constituents by supporting efforts to lift them out of poverty. >> so i mean, did you -- i mean, you had congressman paul ryan there, a republican colleague, a leader on the house budget committee there. did you ask him about those pragmatic issues, about policy and why his party doesn't support things like raising the minimum wage? >> there's a different philosophy, joy. when you look at the ryan republican budget, i'm on the budget and appropriations committee. you see an erosion, a decimation of the safety net. you see over $140 billion in pell grants being cut, you see
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heads start being cut, food stamps to the tune of 138 billion being cut. you see each and every safety net initiative begun under the great society under president johnson which has lifted people, millions out of poverty. you see these safety net programs decimated. we had a hearing today. most of what we heard in the hearing, except for one of our witnesses, dr. marian wright edelman, we heard about programs that work. which were fine. we're talking about public policies and a budget that creates jobs and opportunities for everyone, not pathways into poverty. >> what do you think was accomplished by sitting down with congressman ryan today? >> first of all, i have to thank our chair, congresswoman marsha fudge for inviting him to our meeting and the conversation and the debate has begun. for so long we haven't talked about poverty. we have not talked about income inequality. we've not talked about opportunity and we have not
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talked about race. now we're beginning to have these discussions. we have to continue with this debate so we can afford everyone the opportunity to live the american dream. >> lastly, congresswoman, did you talk about congressman ryan's remarks, his remarks about inner city culture, did that come up? >> of course, you know, weeks ago when the congressman, chairman ryan made these remarks, i had to just say what i felt. and i really believed that, you know, what he said was really inappropriate. it was, as he said, though, inarticulate. that was his response to that. we talked a little bit about that. we moved on. it was important to communicate for myself at least, and others, that chairman ryan understand that poverty is not only in the african-american and latino community. this is an american issue. it's an american problem. he needs to really understand that we have to create a budget, and opportunities for all and leave no one behind.
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we have to have that debate and it's got to be part of our income inequality, poverty and race debate that i believe is beginning in this country. >> all right. definitely beginning in the united states house of representatives with that meeting today. congressman barbara lee, thank you very much. >> thank you. let's introduce angela wright. angie, you know the members of the congressional black caucus very well. as their former counsel. what do you think of this idea of sitting down with paul ryan and then coming out and doing a presser on that today? what in your estimation, what was the goal of doing this? >> joy, it was two-fold. one was paul ryan needs to be accountable to his remarks. what better entity to hold him accountable than 43 african-american members of congress known as the conscience of the congress. they have introduced policies and bills since their founding to ensure that the voiceless have a voice and they have advoca
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advocates. paul ryan needed to be accountable, not only to these must bes but to all of congress, all of his colleagues in congress and all of the country, in part because it's not just reflective in what he said, joy, it's also reflective in the policies he's pushing in his budget or not pushing in his budget, right? he's been on this listening tour throughout the country, listening to issues that people that are lower income face. he's had this hearing today, war on poverty hearing today. yet we still haven't seen anything come to bear that reflects policies that would help to lift people out of their circumstances. so today he heard from the members of the cbc, urging him to do just that. one takeaway that i've heard about already is congressman clyburn has been pushing initiatives for some time now called the 10, 20, 30 plan. paul ryan from what i understand is urging the budget committee to hear from the cbc on that. i think we'll meet more in depth, both with mr. clyburn and with congresswoman fudge to talk about it. the 10, 20, 0 plan would direct
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10% of federal public resource those communities that have people living at the 20% -- 20% of the people living at or below the poverty line for the last 30 years. so i think it's a step forward. but there is a whole lot more work to do with these $5.1 trillion in his budget that was passed by the house just last week. >> what you said about 10, 20, 30 is the most hopeful thing i've heard in the last ten minutes. when i was listening to the congresswoman, i was like they are talking past each other. what you just said is something worth following up on. really appreciate that piece of breaking news. thank you so much. >> no problem. thanks, joy. coming up, the clippers are riding high on last night's playoff win as owner donald sterling is on his way out the door. but is he really? two nba greats weigh in on that and whether the nba's punishment goes far enough. and, the "time" magazine cover that's got fingers wagging.
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coming up, we read between the lines on why our new poll says american voters are dazed and confused. first, it's time for the stories you can't stop buzzing about on social media. the cast of "star wars" episode 7 was announced yesterday. the web can barely contain the force of your excitement. director j.j. abrams posted this picture on starwars.com showing the cast, harrison ford, mark hamill, along with new comers daisy ridley and adam driver. but some of you are disappointed. blogs are lamenting that the only one woman is joining the huge cast. manufacture you hoped "star wars" would be lupita and
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longo's big gig. >> i'm just saying, "star wars," it's not too late. fingers crossed. from "star wars" to wardrobe wars. beyonce has landed in hot water over this "time" cover. others featured in the multiple cover issue like mary barra are shown fully clothed. this led many of you to question on social media why the pop mogul is almost naked on her cover. and you're blaming bey and not "time," including sending tweets like this one. odd that she just so in her underwear. less clothes equals more influence? speaking of influencers, heavy hitters have been weighing in on the nba's lifetime ban of l.a. clippers owner donald sterling. political leaders such as house minority leader nancy pelosi and
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microsoft co-founder paul allen have tweeted in support of nba commissioner adam silver, banning sterling for life and dropping the hammer with a hefty fine. many of you are tweeting in disgust over what you say is more like a slap in the wrist. many of you sent tweets like this one, quote, until the nba owners vote or force a sale of the l.a. clippers, sponsors shouldn't support the team. a ban doesn't stop sterling from getting rich off the team. we've seen countless facebook posts that support the idea that justice will not be served until sterling no longer benefits financially from the nba. we'll have more on that controversy surroundingster welcome's continued ownership of the clippers coming up. for now, join the conversation on twitter, facebook, instagram and msnbc.com. now this news. at the top of the hour, president obama will make his push for raising the minimum wage in a speech at the white house. here's a look at what it could mean by the numbers. [male announcer] ortho crime files.
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sterling. the nba declared on tuesday it had authenticated the tape and believed the male voice on the tape to be that of sterling. his punish 349, a lifetime ban and a fine of $2.5 million, the maximum the nba can levy under its rules. also commissioner adam silver said he will do everything in his power to force the sale of the team, force donald sterling out of the nba altogether. we'll have more on that possibility later in the show. but yesterday, everyone from owners to former to current players were high-fiving the decision. and today, even the white house indicated its satisfaction with the outcome. >> the president believes that the nba has done the right thing. >> essentially everyone was declaring mission accomplished, except for one guy. roger mason jr., vice president of the nba players' association and the one person during two press conferences and lots of media events yesterday to note
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this is not over. mission not accomplished. at least not yet. >> as players, we're very happy with the decision, but we're not content yet. we want immediate action. we want a timetable from the owners as far as when this vote will happen. but we feel confident that with adam silver's urging and obviously we've heard from a lot of the owners around the league, we think this is something that can be handled quickly. >> lenny wilkins is an nba legend inducted into the hall of fame as both a player and a coach. and norm nixon is a former all-star who played for both l.a. teams. thank you both for being here. appreciate it. >> thank you, joy. >> thank you. >> i want to start with you first, norm. there has been this kind of sense of mission accomplished, that i sensed yesterday, where everyone was saying this is great, that the nba took action, let's all get back to the game. did it strike you as that being premature? >> it's not premature. i think we all felt for the
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players because those guys were in the toughest position. it's their jobs. we play our entire lives to when a championship. this team was knocking at the door to win a championship. i think the actions that the commissioner took were the type of actions that were necessary, in order for those guys to go out and play comfortable. the whole world was watching them to see how are they going to respond. as mason said, the mission is not accomplished yet. i think these guys want to see a vote to make sure that mr. sterling is no longer an nba owner. >> or what? i think that is sort of begs the question. let's answer that question, actually, first, norm. or what? let's say time goes on and this man is not forced out of ownership of the team, should those players resume their threat to walk out? >> i think you will see major action. i can't speak for them but those guys planned to walk out on the eastern and western conference game. if it goes past the playoffs,
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you'll see more sponsors pulling out. there will definitely be pressure on the sponsors to take action. this attitude is not welcome in any rt part of our society, in particular, the nba. sports has always been a place and a platform that has pushed racial relationships throughout our history. mr. wilkins is one of our pioneers in this league. i'm sure when he played it was a lot different than when i played or a lot different from what these guys were doing right now. in our sport, there's no place for this. as a matter of fact, in no part of our society. >> lenny wilkins, you've been a coach. i want to let you listen to doc rivers who is the coach of the clippers and what he said in a pregame press conference yesterday. this was after the nba press conference. take a listen. >> is this over? no, it's not over. but it's the start of a healing process that we need and it's
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the start for our organization. you know, to try to get through this. >> and lenny wilkins, the coach is obviously in the middle. these players worked hard to get where they were. there were questions about did he have any idea of who he was working for? i mean, talk a little bit about the position doc rivers was in. >> well, you know, doc was in a very difficult position, joy. there's no way that he would know that unless he hung out with donald sterling. and doc rivers was not hanging out with donald sterling. many years ago, i was offered a job with the clippers. and the reason i turned the job down was not that i knew he was -- had some racial problems. it was that he didn't feel the team was important enough to tend to business. that's why i didn't go. but i thought doc handled it magnificently. you know? you assess the situation.
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the game is bigger than all of us. and once he got the answer or the response from adam silver, then he tried to eradicate from their minds, although you can't do it completely because it's not going to go away until that guy is out of basketball. >> you say the game is bigger than us. i think part of the visceral reaction that we're seeing, i'm seeing in my social media and a lot of others are seeing is the sense that the game is bigger than individual people. that actually not being a good thing. essentially everyone sort of pooled together to make sure the game went on. is there any discomfort? i'll start with you, lenny wilkins and go to norm on that. do you have any discomfort about the idea that everyone closed ranks to make sure the game could go on, rather than seeing it through to the end to make sure this man could no longer profit from the game? >> we're going to make sure that happens, okay? so, no, i thought it was good that everybody came together. listen, i've been through these type of circumstances. i remember when we threatened to
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strike an all-star game, okay? when we got a satisfaction response, we went on and played the game. but we also made sure that the collective bargaining went on after that where we did get things that we wanted. so they're going to make sure of that. there's no question about that. but right now, you've got to start the healing process so that we can communicate, so that we can make sure that we do get him out of our league. >> norm, in getting your answer, i want to read you something that's on the sport blogs sb nation. his girlfriend's dispute with his wife brought him down, not the federal lawsuit for housing discrimination. where was everyone in 2003, when sterling was sued for the same thing by private parties?
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>> those lawsuits were settled. all that information is public knowledge but i don't think players were trying to dig into that, to find out more about this guy. i think we had all heard grumblings. in this situation, we heard the voice. we heard him in a private situation which is unfortunate that in his private situation his conversation was taped. but you got a sense of who this guy really is. he was speaking from his heart. i think once that became obvious, you had to act. someone made the statement that the owners should not be on the clippers. like coach wilkins said, they threatened to strike the all-star game. the onus was on the superstars in this league. they always bring up tommy smith and john carlos. the owners weren't on them as individuals, but there's a time and place in history when decisions must be made and sometimes you have to it be a martyr. i think those guys were in a position where they had to do something. fortunately for them, adam
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silver came down to the fullest extent of his power. now there's due process that has to take place. if that is answer is not satisfactory, you will see more people react and more things stage and happening to ensure that he's not in basketball any longer. >> indeed. i think the untold story of this entire ordeal and hopefully it will come out in more detail is the players who really forced the hand of the nba. i think you're right about that. i think roger mason jr. spoke for a lot of people yesterday as did you gentlemen today. lenny wilkins, norm nixon, thank you both. >> thank you. >> thank you for having us. still ahead, the legal battle that donald sterling faces and the family ties that could complicate the whole thing.
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sterling in attendance at last night's clippers game. it was his estranged wife rochelle or shelly. she seemed to enjoy the game, having been given the a-okay to attend by the team's coach and players. however, as the league determines the future of the ownership of the team and the internet speculates on which celebrity might buy it, we've been told by music mogul david geffen's office that geffen, oprah winfrey may be interested if it became official. the l.a. times reports that a tenant stated at a deposition that mrs. sterling addressed him using a racial slur. and there's a court order from 2003 which says that she apparently posed as a health inspector while visiting a tenant's apartment, though there's no evidence found that
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she actually entered the apartment. many experts believe shelly sterling may have a tough time inheriting the time which could allow her husband to sidestep the ruling banning him for life. the nba did seem to indicate tuesday that mr. sterling's real estate dealings, along with other past behavior, will weigh in on how the league approaches any forced sale of the team. >> in meeting out this punishment, we did not take into account his past behavior. when the board ultimately considers his overall fitness to be an owner in the nba, they will take into account a lifetime of behavior. >> executive editor of sports law blog, he also teaches at the school of management. i want to play you something adam silver said during the press conference that has to do with how family members will be treated vis-a-vis the lifetime ban. take a listen.
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>> no, there have been no decisions about other members of the sterling family. and i should say that this ruling applies specifically to donald sterling and donald sterling's conduct only. >> so baron, why wouldn't donald sterling transfer ownership of the clippers to shelly? >> i think he might try or at least consider doing so. i think that commissioner silver was pretty clear that any new ownership would have to be approved by the other 2 owners, the board of governors of the nba. i think it's highly unlikely at this point that they would approve that. they might consider it. >> let's talk about the power that the league might have to force this sale. at least what we were hearing yesterday is that at least as of yesterday donald sterling had no interest in selling the team. how would the mechanics of that work, the nba making him sell? >> well, commissioner silver made a decision yesterday and meeted out three specific punishments. he imposed a lifetime ban on
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donald sterling. he imposed a $2.5 million fine and then he indicated he'd recommend to the board of governors of the nba that they force donald sterling to sell the team. items one and two are reasonably straight forward and they're well within the rubric of the power of the commissioner historically. while it's possible those would be challenged, it's less likely. the third component is one that certainly would merit a potential lawsuit by donald sterling in terms of challenging the nba's ability under antitrust law, to force a sale. it's less clear under antitrust law whether or not the commissioner has that explicit authority. but he certainly has found some information in interpreting the bylaws in the nba constitution that was written recent i that i'm sure adam silver helped write. certainly the nba feels they have the ability to force the sale. >> i've heard some sports writers saying the nba's constitution, which is secret, it is whatever they want it to be. if the members of the 30-team
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consortium were to get together and say we're going to make it so, would donald sterling have any protection outside, if he signed on to that constitution, doesn't he have to abide by it? >> the way it works, the nba is a private association. typically what the courts do is allow private associations to interpret and impose their own guidelines, constitution and rules. and unless the decision by adam silver and the nba was arbitrary and capricious in applying their own rules, it's highly unlikely the federal court would decide that the action they took would be illegal. however, donald sterling as a litigious individual has the right and it's not unlikely he might file a claim where they have forced him to sell a team, it would be an antitrust claim under the sherman act claiming restraint of trade. and the value of the franchise has been devalued illegally by the nba as they've imposed this sale upon him.
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it's something he does not want to do. >> what about shelly now? it is troubling that these past alleged transgressions in terms of, again, racially -- racialized behavior toward tenants. she seems to be implicated in it. how troubling is it she has faced no sanctions? he could try to transfer the team to her. >> sure. i mean, look, there's no ethical quandary here from what i've been able to garner, right? the question of course now is legally does donald sterling have the ability under the nba rules or federal law to transfer these rights and the nba is going to say they have the ability to determine to whom he sells. quite frankly they're the ones who have declared that they are going to authorize and approve the sale. there's also another important component for donald sterling, if he can pass this team to his wife, you are bypassing capital gains tax. and based on the purchase of the team for low dollars and the potential for this to be sold in
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excess of $1 billion, you're talking about a substantial amount of money. >> yes. it just keeps getting more complicated every time it seems like it might be over. thank you so much. appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. coming up, we read between the lines on our new nbc/"wall street journal" poll. do voters even know what they want? signs point to no. in my first term i sang al green, in my second term i'm going with young jeezy. michelle said, yeah. i sing that to her sometimes.
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the newest nbc/"wall street journal" poll is out and good news! americans are still completely confused. really can't stand the tea party. are dissatisfied with president obama and are basically cool with hillary clinton because she's not actually running anything right now. as if to boil our confusion down to a single data point. when asked which party they prefer to be in control of congress, the people spoke and basically said, who knows.
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it's 45-45. for those 10% who aren't sure, i'm wondering what they do all day? the reality is, what people say they want and the political choices they actually make are often totally contradictory. the majority of respondents in the poll say the economic and political systems are stacked against, quote, people like me. they believe that because of the growing income gap, america is no longer a country where the regular joe can get ahead. sounds like they'd like to have democrats in charge. they're proposing raising the minimum wage and preserving the social safety net. americans also want to be less active in world affairs while at the same time having a president who projects a global image of strength. that kind of sounds like rand paul. most disapprove of president obama's approach to foreign policy and also think he takes a balanced approach to foreign affairs rather than being too cautious. which of course makes absolutely no sense. if there's one consistent thread
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in the poll, we are a country that's characterized by a broad distrust of everything. none of our traditional institutions inspires confidence, not big corporations or political leaders or faith institutions. even the military is under 50%. will the economy get better or worse? who knows. most of us think it's just going to stay the way it is. was the health care plan a good idea or bad? mostly bad but also mostly it just needs minor fixes, not repeal. while most americans believe the economic conditions are something president obama inherited they blame him for not fixing it. perhaps the most telling number in the polls is this one. 56% of us say that we have just enough money to maintain and another 22% are falling behind. just one in five say they're getting ahead. what's amazing is that six years into the obama administration and with republican and democratic parties that are as opposite on every issue and proposed remedy that they possibly could be, people just aren't sure which party they
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think should be in charge. it's a pretty grim picture. before we can change it, the american people need to focus and make up our minds. and that wraps things up for "the reid report." i'll see you here tomorrow at 2:00 p.m. eastern. be sure to visit online. "the cycle" is up next. what is going on today. >> we're still waiting for the president. we're expecting him to make another case for raising the minimum wage, probably tie that into the bad economic numbers we got this morning. we're all over this donald sterling story, what's next for him? will he be pushed into selling the team? we'll talk about that botched execution in oklahoma and i'm going to make the case why you should rent your home instead of owning it. >> josh is making it happen. that's controversial. that's the american dream, man. >> is? >> "the cycle" is coming up next. nice 'n easy. our advanced treatment helps keep highlights and lowlights shiny and luminous. cc cream, find it in every box of nice 'n easy.
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explaining my moderate to severe so there i was again, chronic plaque psoriasis to another new stylist. it was a total embarrassment. and not the kind of attention i wanted. so i had a serious talk with my dermatologist about my treatment options. this time, she prescribed humira-adalimumab. humira helps to clear the surface of my skin by actually working inside my body. in clinical trials, most adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis saw 75% skin clearance.
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and the majority of people were clear or almost clear in just 4 months. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal events, such as infections, lymphoma, or other types of cancer have happened. blood, liver and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure have occurred. before starting humira, your doctor should test you for tb. ask your doctor if you live in or have been to a region where certain fungal infections are common. tell your doctor if you have had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have symptoms such as fever, fatigue, cough, or sores. you should not start humira if you have any kind of infection. make the most of every moment. ask your dermatologist about humira, today. clearer skin is possible. straight ahead in the soip, is it game over for donald sterling? i'm josh barrow in for ari
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today. . and gross domestic gross product? disappointing new numbers out today about the economy and they may actually help the president and democrats. i'm krystal ball. politics, they're so complicated. fortunately you have us. i'm toure. a convicted murderer's death shrouded in controversy. how did he die after the execution was stopped? >> and we're following the serious spring weather. millions of americans are facing a flood of trouble from the florida panhandle to the canadian border. i'm abby huntsman. all of that this hour on "the cycle." we start with an emotional night in los angeles. just hours after clippers owner donald sterling was banned for life and fined $2.5 million for
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his racist comments, the clippers had to play a pivotal playoff game. if the players had any doubts about what fans' reaction would be or even show up, doubt no more. here was the incredible scene as the clippers enter the court. the clippers went on to win game five against the golden state warriors, 113-103. they now lead the series three games to two with the potential clincher in oakland tomorrow night. chris paul described the scene after the game. >> after warmups, one of the most emotional things i think i've ever been a part of, you know, we have a tough locker room, all of us are tough but it almost brought tears to your eyes to feel the support from our fans. >> espn's senior writer
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