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one nancy? i can't tell. all right. i'd like to congratulate jerod let to who is here tonight and to the republican senator who asked to be introduced to that quote, hot chick from "dallas buyers club." you're in for an interesting evening. rich and russell wilson is also here from my super bowl champions seattle seahawks. pay toneyton manning wanting to be here tonight but he can only move four yards at a time. he's not here to defend himself. legendary actor robert de niro is here tonight, everyone. now, i don't do a de niro
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impression but i do an impression of robert dae niro's agent. here it is. ring ring, he'll do it. mr. de niro i was in 'spy kids 4" so clearly i'm beyond re reproach reproach. the founder of twitter is here. so if any of you congressmen want to cut out the middleman, just show him your penis. not now! are you nuts? okay. those are my warmup jokes. i'm kidding. i'm kidding. i'm kidding. i want to leave you tonight with a bit of a pep talk. america has seen her share of challenges, but as my agents told me when i booked an nbc sit come, hey, things could be
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worse. now, have you watched the news? i mean not cnn, i mean like the real news. it's pretty bad in other places. by comparison america is doing great. i mean this year after months of heated debate and controversy, we achieved something that will impact the health of millions. we brought back twin kis. and we're no longer the fattest country in the world. now mexico is. but don't worley we'll be number one again as soon as they all come over here. and what's your biggest concern as americans? tv show spoilers. in other countries, a spoiler consists of hey, i haven't been back to the village yet so don't tell me who survived the drone strike. no spoilers. sorry about that one. america still has amazing technological innovations, google glass has hit the market.
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now just by walking down the street we'll know exactly who to punch in the face. in america we see gluten and pea nuts as threats to our kids. in other countries, they're the nicknames of the war locks who have small armies. america is doing just fine, guys. how do i know that? we're making a fourth movie about trucks that turn into giant robots. why are they making a "transformers 4" because there's still so much story left to tell. so chin up, everyone, this country is still number one in the all important categories of cream filled candies education and the environment, we'll get them next time. here's why america is the best country in the world. a guy like me can stand before the president, the press and patrick duffy and tell jokes
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without severe repercussions. and instead of being shipped off, i'm going to the vanity fair after party. that's right. this is america where everyone can be a pussy riot. this is one of the coolest things that has ever happened to me ever in my entire life. thank you mr. path thank you mrs. obama and thank you white house correspondents' dinner and thank you c-span viewer. good night, everybody. thank you. [ applause ] all right. oh boy. that was joel mchale. we will be talking and reading about that speech tomorrow, the next day and the day after that and the day after that. joel mchale, just a few minutes longer than president obama there. but there you have it. that is the 100 annual white house correspondents' dinner. let's bring the panel back
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alicia quarrels from e deen down in miami standing by for us and they start to wrap up things in the ballroom. we'll get to the president in just a moment. we're going to play a few chunks of what he said. let's talk abyour friend and colleague, joel mchale. >> he killed it and i told you he would. >> you think he killed it? >> i do. >> i think that's going to be one of the speeches that plays one way in the room and folks watching at home maybe something entirely. >> folks at home will say that was mean. you have to like the humor. what he did in that room is what he's dpun for years, the one liners those zingers at the end, thanks for watching c-span viewer. that's what he does. >> in the room -- in. >> do you think he killed it? >> i think in the room there was a lot of -- he went there on a number of topics where you just don't go there. i think what we saw was an honest to god roast of people
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who don't really want to be roasted that deeply. >> i want to bring in the comedic expert here. i want to get your honest assessment of joel and then we'll turn to the president. let's start with joel mchale. >> i think he did a good job. it was snark fest you've never seen that much snark going on. he relished it. he wanted to push the audience to the point of being uncomfortable. some of his best stuff was not the political stuff but the rant on chris christie culminated with him saying i've investigated myself and i'm all clear. some of the fat jokes about chris christie he'll get a push back from that. he is a comedian. he can get away of that. some of the ribbing of the news agencies. >> it's funny because he was making some comments abour
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colleagues at yoer outfits. they were not laughing. they were not smiling. >> yeah. >> some of them don't smile in general. >> let's play a few clips here at president obama and then let's talk about the president's performance other the other side. this is a little bit of the president who spoke for about 19 or 20 minutes. here it is. >> of course we rolled out health care.gov. that could have gone better. in 2008 my slogan was yes we co. in 2013 my slogan was control-alt-delete. just last month a wonderful story within an american won the boston marathon for the first time in 30 years. [ applause ] which was inspiring and only fair since a kenyan has been president for the last six.
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>> i thought we had mod past that. >> to me they're the equivalent of an airplane food joke. i'm done with them. >> especially with donald trump not in the room. >> he had two birther jokes but one of them was about hillary clinton. was that a joke endorsement? >> the best line of the night -- >> hang on. this was also my favorite line as well. do we have it control room? here it is. >> i'm feeling sorry, believe it or not, for the speaker of the house as well. these days the house republicans actually give john boehner a harder time than they give me. which means orange really is the new black. >> i mean that's gold. >> yeah. >> that's gold. >> by far, he always goes after boehner. this time he did it.
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orange is the new black stars are in the audience. >> deen what did you think in terms of the president's lines of the night, the topics that he chose as well? >> i love the fact that he took on the koch brothers, i love the fact that he took on rand paul and ted cruz. i love that he talked about things substantive through comedy. how well does obamacare have to do for you to stop voting to repeal it and the idea of rand paul doing a 180, you know when he got away trying to get away from bundy. i thought those were great. even though they weren't the funniest, there was a message in them. those are the ones i admire the most. anyone who starts a statement with let me tell you about the negro, right there, what a great line and it really captured the whole issue very well. i thought obama did a great job. i think mchale went a little long but he did a great job. >> a big thanks to my guests and a bigger thanks to you for
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liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? corcoran's maximum security housing unit, or the shoe, is home to some of california's most violent offenders. influential gang members and inmates who have assaulted prison staff or other inmates are sent here from all over the state. >> in here, i feel individually deprived, i feel individual is neglected. i feel individual is oppressed, i feel individual is degraded, continuously. >> everything they do is to humiliate you. degenerate you, you know what i'm saying?
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all you're going to trying to respect them but they disrespect you. >> the toughest challenge, i think, being in the shoe is on a day-to-day basis being fair and consistent with each and every inmate. in each cell is a different individual. the 1200-cell shoe unit is california's largest prison within a prison. inmates call it the hole. >> 24 hours a day, living in a cell like that, man, it's going to get to anybody. i don't care who they are. to deprive someone of social contact, i think it's the worst thing you can do. >> shoe inmates spend up to 23 hours a day alone in a concrete cell. they are allowed one hour a day outside to exercise and five minutes a week to shower. in this confined isolation, an inmate's frustration can quickly
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turn violent. >> i've seen inmates just lose it, start yelling, screaming, kicking banging on their cells, officer coming up, asking what's going on. when the man doesn't respond, doesn't want to cuff up, he's just going off in the cell, they've got no choice, they've got to go in the cell, beat him up, cuff him up. that's what i mean by lose it. >> they assault officers with urine and feces. they take control of a food port. they also cover their cell front, which we have to remove the cover in order to make sure that safety is utmost concern. >> when violence does erupt, officers are left with no option but to extract inmates from their cells by force. shoe facility captain j.r. andrews oversees cell extractions on a weekly basis. >> we do wear protective gear in a cell extraction or use of force, calculated-type use of force. but on some occasions, staff do get injured.
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i have seen occasions where staff have been injured to the point of broken arms. i have seen staff receive feces thrown in their face. i have seen staff where they actually had their headgear broken into pieces because they was hit so hard when they entered the cell. >> after extracting him from a shower cell in the crisis unit, officers are transporting this inmate to the shoe for destroying prison property. >> he beat out a window with a handle. we had to go inside the cell, take him out. this is a spit mask. it's required by our institution so the inmate does not spit on us. >> this inmate will have to pay for the broken window and will have up to 90 days shoe time added to his sentence. while three months in the shoe may seem like a long time, some prisoners spend years within these walls. >> when i first got here, i thought, oh, wow, this is going to be a world of hell. and sure enough. it's been -- it's been a world
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of hell. >> chris samuelson, originally convicted of weapons possession, has spent two of his four years at corcoran in the shoe. >> you got to have a strong mind to be back here for a number of years like i have been, you know? but it's broken people back here. but, hey, you know, all i can do is just keep going. >> the stress of working in this environment has mandated that officers never work the hole for more than two months at a time. >> this is a shoe housing unit exercise yard. it's where the inmates come out to get their prescribed exercise daily. and of course, at times their favorite exercise is probably fighting. >> these shoe yards were the site of the notorious gladiator fights of the mid 1990s. when we first filmed here in 2000, the unit was still recovering from that scandal. at the time, officers were
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keeping known gang rivals apart to cut down on inmate assaults, but it wasn't all that effective. >> in the olden days, it was more guys trying to kill each other, but we still have those. >> whenever violence broke out, the control tower went into a well-rehearsed routine, as seen in this demonstration from 2000. >> the inmates start to fight, the first thing do you is you activate the unit alarm, then you would yell at the inmates. first rounds we fire are wood blocks. hopefully the hurt will make them stop. if we have to escalate to nonlethal options, use what we call scat round which is really irritating. it's also a lot louder. the smoke you see there, that's cn gas. it's no fun. it messes up your sight. we have a mini 14 here, a .223
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round, but we only use that as a last resort if the inmate has knocked another inmate unconscious and kicking him in the head or something. >> corcoran state prison to longer has to resort to such drastic measures to control violence in the shoe yard. their solution, no more yards. the inmates now exercise in walk-alone areas called the cages. >> the cages is inhumane. this is nothing but animals. people treat animals better than we're treated sometimes. it's like having a little monkey in a cage right here. put the monkey in the cell, put him out in the cage, let him get some air. >> although yard privileges have been restricted, the inmates agree that the cages have been effective in combating the inmate assaults that were so common in the past. >> it seems to me that this is just one more step towards administration's divide and
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conquer tactics. and it's working. it works well. i'll give them that. they know what they're doing. next on "lockup" -- >> i want you to take the curtains down, turn around and submit to mechanical restraints. >> do what you gotta do. >> inmates go on the rampage in the prison's hospital ward. (woman) the constipation and belly pain feel like a knot. how can i ease this pain? (man) when i can't go, it's like bricks piling up. i wish i could find some relief. (announcer) ask your doctor about linzess-- a once-daily capsule for adults with ibs with constipation or chronic idiopathic constipation. linzess is thought to help calm pain-sensing nerves and accelerate bowel movements. it helps you proactively manage your symptoms. do not give linzess to children under 6, and it should not be given to children 6 to 17. it may harm them. don't take linzess if you have a bowel blockage. get immediate help if you develop unusual or severe stomach pain
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gñ÷nxúacocó#?!?!?!!!@?@?@?ú?@?@?@?@?@?ú?p?uw@pus corcoran has its own 95-bed acute care hospital, where patients recover in high-security cells. because of the violence, a stab-proof vest is part of every nurse's uniform. medical staff deal with the survivors of gang hits, treating up to 50 stabbings a year. >> got his head blown off, that's probably the worst one. but we've had lots of major stabbings, lots of gunshots, lots of people who have been stabbed in through the chest cavity who we stabilize here and ship immediately to trauma center for emergency surgery. you don't ask questions. you basically deal with them as
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patients. if you start digging into their backgrounds and find out what they've done, it could change your whole perspective. we have a special clientele here that you don't want to know too much about them. >> a high-security prison hospital presents particular problems for employee safety. every day, staff try to achieve the best balance between medical needs and custody concerns. >> there is a doctor here but they're dealing with another situation. so when they get done, i'll tell them. >> medical and security staff work hand in hand to deal with a major disturbance in the hospital. inmates have purposely backed up their toilets. >> we have four inmates in four different cells that are causing their toilets to back up and flooding the tier. we're going to first go out and try to talk to the inmates and try to get them into complying with staff's instructions. >> we want to come in, talk to
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you, give you some medications so we know you can settle down. >> inmates fail to comply with staff instructions, we will probably have to extract them. >> i want everything ready to go in no more than five minutes. i want everything ready to go in five minutes. >> don't make them big enough. >> in addition to the risk of being injured during a cell extraction, officers must also protect their faces and uniforms from body waste that is frequently thrown at them by inmates. >> you got elbow pads, you are going to slide in there, it's wet. one of them might throw feces at you. he smells it he is ready. he's going to be pitching, i don't want to be catching. >> this time, the on-duty psychiatrist has managed to convince the inmate to let captain cobb's officers remove him from the cell. now he can receive his much-needed medication.
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hospital staff now face the unpleasant task of cleaning the inmate's feces-smeared cell. >> put him in the room. do we have an open room? put him in cell four. >> i can't see you. >> across the hall, the psychiatrist is attempting to persuade another inmate to cooperate with medical staff. >> we need to come in, give you some medications. >> nope, not taking no medications, you ain't coming in. >> medical staff are now left with no choice than to hand over the situation to the prison security staff. >> i'm captain carl. i'm the custody operations captain.
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>> the inmate is refusing to remove the mattress which is blocking the cell door and security staff fear he may be planning to use his metal food tray as a weapon. >> i'm going to give you one more opportunity to comply with staff instructions. i want you to take the coverings down, turn around and submit to mechanical restraints. >> do what you got to do. >> medical staff stand back to let custody officers introduce noxious oc pepper spray into the inmate's cell. the irritant gas should quickly persuade him to let officers handcuff him. >> cuff up. >> despite the stinging cloud of gas filling his cell, the inmate is still refusing to be cuffed. >> come to the door and cuff up. come to the door and cuff up. >> a second dose of oc pepper spray is applied. at last, the staff are able to
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himself, republicans and donald sterling. check out our website for highlights. that's msnbc.com for details. mu news later. now back to "lockup." doing time at corcoran state prison can be like living in a war zone. the main culprits for most of corcoran's crime and violence are the powerful prison gangs that prey on each other and on the weak. their booming drug business not only pervades every facility at corcoran, it extends far beyond the prison walls into the outside world. lieutenant terry norton knows that being locked up does not stop inmates from conducting business as usual. >> the gangs inside the prison control drug trafficking, extortion, any kind of crime you that can think of that happens
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in the streets, happens within with the prison system. they have their politics, they have their pecking older, their soldier that has to eliminate the guy they want off the yard. they all have their little jobs that they have to do. >> gang members communicate with each other both in and out of prison by microwriting on scraps of paper. >> even though the individual is locked up, they have a lot of access to individuals on the street. they have visitors that see them on a regular basis. they have the mail. they're able to give messages to other inmates that are paroling to go out on the street and pass that message along to other street gangs or whatnot to carry out their deeds. >> through these coded notes, senior gang members are able to continue running their street operations from behind bars. once decoded, officers pass the information on to police. more often than not, the orders are to kill. >> anybody that thinks that a
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prison gang like the mexican mafia can't reach out and touch you on the street are a fool for thinking that way because they can. they can reach out and touch anybody they want. >> most often it is about smuggling drugs, most often heroin, methamphetamines and marijuana into corcoran. >> this would be a state boot. they'll take the bottom of the heel here and actually cut and remove the heel and carve out an area in this section here in order to put the narcotics underneath the heel. this is after we opened up the packaging of it. we have marijuana on this side, marijuana in the center. the way it's wrapped there is so the inmate could actually insert it into his body cavity and traffic it from the visiting room into his housing unit area where it's sold. >> even a simple greeting card can be a vehicle for transporting drugs. >> in this case, the peacock here, the bird, the parrot, was soaked in methamphetamines and it's mailed in. once it's mailed in, the inmate will cut up pieces of the
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picture and actually sell it. >> narcotics inside prison can be sold for almost 30 times their street price. an ounce of heroin that might cost $800 can be broken up and sold here for thousands. >> get to the house, the guy was selling dope out of the house, so there's probably dope in that building. >> to crack down on the gangs' narcotics network, corcoran has formed a highly trained intelligence gathering team called the investigative service unit. our cameras were allowed access to follow this unit, along with a local k-9 team, while they set out on a surprise contraband bust. searching inmates' cells for drugs, weapons and gang paraphernalia. >> nobody else knows we're coming. the captains don't know. nobody knows we're coming. so this is going to be a complete surprise to staff and everybody. >> head of the isu, sergeant john montgomery knows that inmates will destroy or hide the contraband if they find out about the raid.
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>> heading for building four, be released for chow, going to go up to the building and we will go inside, make sure all the building is clear before we bring the k-9 units in. >> any inmates who are still in their cells when the isu sweep begins are carefully searched before leaving to make sure they are not removing drugs. >> all the way around. gums. tongue up. all right. >> when the cell block is clear of all inmates, the search begins. >> by looking inside the cells, by how much content they have in the cell, we can kind of tell who is probably running drugs because if they're running drugs on the yard, they have a lot of what we call canteened store goods, canned goods, tuna, chicken, soups, they have a lot of stuff in their cell. in the drug trade that's how they're paid. so we have a cell that has a lot of that kind of stuff in it we'll mark it, we'll tag them, we'll start following them through phone conversations,
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mail. and we'll gather some intelligence out of this. if nothing else, we'll get that. >> first one. >> it's a game to the dog. they're trying to find their toy. that's how they're trained. and after a while if you don't find anything, you get tired, you get bored. >> find the toy. let's go. >> that's why we try to hit the hot cells first. 'cause after that, your success rate starts going down. >> good boy. >> these searches often turn up some type of illegal substance. >> like a marijuana penner joint. you have got some of the marijuana here. the balloon's packed with marijuana. the syringe here. the crack pipes so they can smoke crack. >> a common item found during cell searches is pruno, a fermented alcohol drink made from shredded apples and kool-aid. >> i would say serve up to five or ten people, all depending. some of the inmates actually
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even sell the pruno by the cup. whether selling it for five bucks a cup or ten, or if it's white lightning, 25 to 50. >> any suspicious artwork in the cells is brought to this sergeant in internal affairs, an expert in gang codes and symbols. >> a lot of the aztec stuff is predominantly done by the southern hispanics, mexican mafia. you will see, if you look very close, they will have the gang signs. the mexican mafia normally has a black hand, a small black hand somewhere in the drawing. you have your mainliners that are out here and they want to send a drawing back to -- they call it a brother, validated mexican mafia member, they will draw something really nice and send it back to him or send to it his family on the street which in turn will make a full circle and come back inside as a form of respect for him, hey, this is for you, we made this for you. they really preach to these guys that their ancestors were aztec warriors and they go as far as
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to even learn the aztec language. they call it nahodall. >> inmate charles manson's artwork is regularly confiscated to prevent it from being sold as gruesome souvenirs. >> here's a scorpion that he's made. basically just taking thread from various types of items, socks and t-shirts and towels and he creates it and uses, looks like a marker to color it. this is probably one of the items that he makes the most of would be scorpions and spiders. other inmates try to sneak it out and put it on ebay and sell it and whatnot, so we confiscate it. >> another all-too-common discovery in these searches is a variety of handmade weapons. since corcoran opened in 1988, there have been over 250 stabbings, many of them fatal, using knives like these. >> this one is made from a desenex can. >> i've seen stabbings over
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drugs, i've seen stabbings over money owed for canteen. i've seen child molesters get stabbed. i've seen a guy get both eyes gouged out with a toothbrush and stabbed 15 times by his celly. >> as far as the gangsters, once they start doing drugs and get in debt, the only way to get out of debt usually is to do a hit and sooner or later, the right person is going to come along, they want to hit him and if they don't do it, they are going to get hit themselves. >> that was exactly the choice presented to this young inmate who got a year in the shoe for stabbing another prisoner. >> the guy was weak, as what people were saying, oh, he was weak. weak meaning he couldn't keep up with the exercise. you know, that was the reason. this is how stupid this is. said, hey, this guy, you know, he doesn't deserve this. and when i did speak up for him, you know, it was placed on me. well, since you're speaking up for him, then you will deal with it.
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>> an individual can be in good favor with the gang for years, can do their dirty work, smuggle drugs, stab people, beat people, do whatever, but if he says the wrong thing to the wrong person someday, or looks funny at somebody, somebody thinks they were disrespected by him, he's through. they'll stab him, they'll kill him, they'll toss him away like he's nothing. >> a lot of them get tired of prison politics. they're tired of being asked to go out there and assault other inmates. they just want to kick back, do their time and get out of prison. >> when we first visited corcoran, thomas spiller was a high-ranking gang member who requested a debriefing. he was just four years into a 35 year to life sentence for second degree robbery. >> there's a process that we have to go through. first of all, you have to turn
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over any weapons and then refrain from associating with any of your former gang member friends. list everything that i've done and all my activities. hits i've ordered, hits i've done, who sponsored me into the gang, so on and so forth. >> state your name and number for the committee. you are here for your cdc annual. we have some question about your request to debrief. >> deputy warden marv mesky, social worker janelle johnson and captain nate dill have to decide whether spiller's desire to renounce his gang was genuine. >> i do have some questions about your sincerity about debriefing. >> i have questions of my own if i may. >> the officials are concerned that some of the debriefed inmates whom spiller would join in housing were former hits of his. >> you will not be denied a debrief process. it may take a while because we have to look at it very, very hard. >> for my own understanding, what is the main source of your change of heart? >> basically, i'm tired of doing
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other people's dirty work. i'm simply just a middleman passing on orders. and it doesn't make sense. i was ordered to kill a dear friend of mine and i really didn't appreciate that. >> the committee decided spiller would be allowed to debrief. he was then moved into protective custody in the special needs unit. >> you have a good day. >> thank you. >> since then, he's been transferred to another prison in california for his safety. >> once they elect to go ahead and debrief and cross that line, you cannot put that inmate back on a general population yard, because ultimately he will get assaulted and possibly even killed. >> but the prison can only protect the inmate from his gang's fury. they can't protect the inmate's friends and family. >> that individual decides to debrief, he has to get his family out of the old neighborhood because they will retaliate against his family if they can't get to him. >> the information provided by former gang members, like inmate
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spiller, is used to identify and track high-ranking gang leaders inside the prison. it has also proved invaluable to law enforcement. >> they've actually solved homicides on the streets that they had no suspects on through the debrief process. >> but debriefing is not enough to destroy the vise grip of prison gangs at corcoran. >> it's just one tool from breaking some of these gang members up from the gang. because for every one inmate that debriefs you have ten in line waiting to get into the gang. >> since our last visit here, officers say they have seen a big shift in the type of inmates who are joining gangs. >> the changes i have seen in gang members coming into csp corcoran have been a lot of the younger kids coming in off of the street. coming into a gang they feel is going to take care of them and come in here and find out it's not that way at all. and because he wants to make a name for himself, will be the first one to grab a weapon if told bay somebody that's got seniority on the yard, say, hey, i need to you go hit this guy,
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they will. >> they are a lot younger, a lot younger out here. they don't care at all. they are the ones who will be first to get in your face and tell you where to go. >> they are told that what they're doing is for the betterment of, you know, their race or their group or whatever it is. when in reality, what it is, it's all about making money for those guys that are running or controlling the gangs. >> there are a few inmates though who manage to avoid the dangers of gang membership by forming their own small factions and keeping a low profile. surprisingly, one of those groups consists of inmates who are openly gay. >> the boys seem to have no problem. they love us. i mean, we are like gold in here. we really are. i mean there's very few of us. oh, please, maybe not for you. but anyway. i mean, they treat us just like they treat anybody else, you know, as long as we give them their respect and don't cross those boundaries, we get treated just like anybody else.
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>> but being gay in prison does have its challenges. >> being what i am is very hard to find a good celly, 'cause you know, some people, they -- because you're homosexual, they expecting you to do certain things and you're not with all that, know what i mean? >> when they turn down a proposition, the reaction can be vicious. >> it's just like being the proper word is stalked, harassed, because of rejection. you know a lot of people here can't deal with rejection, especially coming from a transsexual. >> yet, these inmates find doing time at corcoran less difficult than life on the outside. >> it's much tougher in society because it's nothing given to you, it's no program to follow, no nothing. it's all based on you. so that's a tough challenge. next on "lockup," the toll of serving time and the taste of freedom. sconduct... ...disturbing the pantry.
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gñ÷ññóo@acoaó#?!?!?!!!@?@?ú?@?@?@?@?ú?ú?u@úó almost half the inmates at corcoran will spend the better part of their lives here. some will never leave. for those with a chance of paroling, the wait may be years or even decades long. >> i'm serving 35 years to life. i've got a parole date of 2031. that will put me somewhere around 80-something years old. >> i think it's harder on my son than anybody. you know. he's seven now. he's seven now. he'll be 7 this year. jumped on his ass about keeping his bedroom clean. one day i called home from l.a. county jail, i ask the the babysitter how everybody was and stuff. she says, well, this morning i got up and told your son he could go out and play. i went back a little bit later, you know. he wouldn't go out, he was cleaning his room. he said, if i clean my room,
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maybe my daddy will come home. >> i think that you would have to learn how to numb yourself in order to be able to endure this. i really don't have very many hopes left. >> the hope of freedom has finally come to pass for donnie and jose. they are gathering their private belongings and processing out of corcoran. >> do you have anybody picking you up? >> no. >> how about you? >> the parolees we receive, they're so satisfied that they're leaving, they don't want to come back. >> jose has been here 22 months for selling drugs. with no one to pick him up, jose's plan is to travel by train to los angeles where he will reunite with family. donnie yarberry has been in and out of prison for much of his
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adult life. he served a three-year sentence for robbery, was released, and then got arrested a few months later. >> you currently married? >> i'm divorced. >> a waste of time, a waste of freedom. there's so many better things to be doing in life, going fishing, going to a movie, walking hand in hand with your girlfriend. >> release photographs are taken of every inmate processing out. for donnie yarberry, who has a history of substance abuse, parole includes a halfway house dedicated to helping recovering addicts get on their feet. >> i heard they had a six-month aftercare so i volunteered for the program so i wouldn't have to parole to the streets and have nothing. i go to a residential program 60 days and have sober living four more months where i don't have to pay more rent. >> inmates released from corcoran are given $200 and a clean set of clothes to start their new lives. >> paroling to the street with
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your gate money is not enough to survive. it doesn't last two days. i had opportunities to recover before and was never adamant in my heart i was never going to use again. i just know in my heart i don't want to come back. >> that inmate there, i believe, based on my experience of almost 20 years, he'll be back. he's violated a few times already for absconding, burglary, and chances are he will be back. >> sergeant val rangel has worked at corcoran since 1988. he knows that more than 50% of the inmates he releases will return to the california prison system within a year. >> you got no family supporting you, you're right back on the street. no home, no where to go, no job. they come back.
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>> yarberry is met by a representative from the rehab facility. >> boldares is dropped at the train station. he will pay for his ticket out of the $200 he just got. >> he's not used to being out here. and he's used to us giving him direction. now he's on his own. he has to find his way back. they get used it to again. it takes a while to get the feel again of being free but they get used to it. he does have somebody there waiting for him. looks like he stands a good chance of making it. the odds are with him right now. >> but for the rest off the inmates at corcoran, freedom is only something to dream about. >> i don't think prison is a deterrent to anything. this is nothing but a punishment place.
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and it only makes us bitter. it makes us bitter to have to sit back here and be treated the way we are for years and years and years. and then i'm expected to go out there and be appreciative of society and hope that i learned my lesson? just doesn't make any sense. ♪ they got a brother locked up once against ♪ ♪ chained like a slave on the bus to the north pen ♪ ♪ it's going to be a rough ride because i'm about to do time ♪ ♪ for a crime for a homicide ♪ ♪ 15 with a nail ♪ ♪ 15 to life doing 15 to life ♪ ♪ 15 to life doing 15 to life ♪ >> in the five years between our visits to corcoran, the prison made great strides to overcome its troubled past. new programs have significantly cut down on prison violence, gang activity and drug trafficking. but with new defiant inmates coming into corcoran every day, there are plenty of challenges ahead. thanks for watching. i'm john siegenthaler.
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due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. there are 2 million people behind bars in america. we open the gates, "lockup." >> this place is crazy. it's totally insane. more insane than me. >> come on in. come on in. >> i don't really have a whole lot of respect for life in general, my own or anybody's. >> i took a knife and stabbed him with it until he was dead and then i butchered him with it. >> there is violence in here
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