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i love that election music. primary season starts manana. we're excited about using that track every week, and, yes, election day is six months away, but the may mayhem is already starting tomorrow. primary voters come out in indiana, north carolina, and ohio. it's our very first super tuesday, krystal. another eight states vote by the end of the month before the june and july madness begins and just in time. a new poll shows the state of the race is tilting slightly toward republicans. the gop has a four-point advantage on the generic congressional ballot. doesn't seem like much, but at this point four years ago the parties were dead even, and we all know what happened that november. republicans picked up 63 seats on the hill in a wave on that ship. right before we get all serious this monday afternoon, the tone in d.c. this weekend was much lighter as the 100th annual
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white house correspondents dinner hosted by the president with some help from comedian joel mchale. >> i'm feeling sorry, believe it or not, for the speaker of the house as well. these days the house republicans actually give john boehner a harder time than they give me, which means orange really is the new black. washington seems more dysfunctional than ever. the gridlock has gotten so bad in this town, you have to wonder, what did we do to piss off chris christie so bad. >> governor, do you want bridge jokes or size jokes? i have a bunch of both. i could go half and half. i know you like a combo platter. now i get that. i'm sorry for that joke, governor christie. i didn't know i was going to tell it, but i take full responsibility for it. whoever wrote it will be fired. but the buck stops here, so i
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will be a man and own up to it just as soon as i get to the bottom of how it happened because i was unaware it happened until just now. i'm appointing a blue ribbon commission of me to investigate the joke i just told, and if i mind find any wrong doing on my part, i assure i will be dealt with. i just looked into it. it turns out i'm not responsible for it. justice has been served. >> those were the highlights of the weekend for me was meeting lupita from "twelve days a slave." krystal got to meet jessica simpson. abby posed with diane sawyer who she used to intern for back in her college days, and look at her now. ok the cycle better than interning for diane. i vote no. i think you were wetter off before. jonathan capart rubbed elbows with the president. the "the" president, but actor tony goldwin.
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that was at the new yorker party that i was not invited to. thank you very much. he made the rounds all weekend long. swron, you are a party animal. you know, some people out there like to say, oh, media should not be hob knobbing with the politicians that we cover in this way. what do you think about that, jon? >> you know, i think it's definitely a tricky thing to go do. if you do become too sort of involved with these people, it can be a bit of an ethics question, but i think most reporters dislike politicians enough that, you know, having dinner with them or a couple of drinks is probably not going to hurt their credibility, frankly. i think none of us really like them a whole lot. >> ouch. >> when a real reporter as opposed one who plays one on tv like myself, feel like we're on solid ground. let's get to some actual news analysis. obama care denialism is all the rage right now in the republican party.
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we have the lowest monthly uninsured rate that we've ever had since it's been tracked, right, around 13%. we have eight million people out there with insurance. a lot of them did not have insurance before. you know, do you think that the gop argument that obama care is not working could backfire given that there's so much evidence that it is and so many people walking around saying, well, i have insurance, and i didn't before, so what are they talking about? >> i think it's going to be tough, frankly, for democrats. the republicans have done a very good job of creating this idea in the public that obama care is utterly broken, it's not working, and even in states like, say, kentucky where obama care is definitely working quite well, a lot of the voters there don't see it as obama care. they see it as a state level thing, and they sort of appreciate it when they talk about it in those terms. they still oppose obama care. i think that they've done a masterful job, frankly, of creating this sort of bedrock idea that this is a true fact. i don't know that there's enough time between now and 2014's
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election to undo that. they may be able to undo it in some states, but it's going to be tough, i think. >> let's talk about the republicans a little. once again, you have the tea party going up against the gop establishment and some of the early heated states like georgia, kentucky, and iowa. the question on so many people's minds is who will prevail in the end? that will very much set the tone of even leading into 2016, and that's what irks the establishment the most is that you have the tea party groups dumping in so much money not into going up against the democratic candidates, but against incumbent republicans. the washington post had an interesting piece out about how the tea party pacts are raking in all this money for the midterms, but they're actually spending very little on their own candidate. i'm curious of what you think about how you see this money game playing out here. who will actually prevail in the end? >> i think you're going to see mostly the establishment candidates win. if you look back in the history of these sort of primary attacks by the conservative groups,
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there have been very, very few instances in which they've actually defeated an incumbent. gene schmidt was one of the more famous ones in the house, and, you know, she ran a very bad campaign, frankly. you know, the same with bob bennett in utah and others who didn't see this coming. they didn't prepare for it. they got beaten. at this point most of the incumbents are working hard to not get beat by outside folks from their right wing, and i think you really are not going to see a huge wave of republican income bebts lose. >> jonathan, we've seen tons of polls that showed that the republicans have the edge in the midterm elections, and democrats should be crying in their soup. isn't there a danger that we're binging on these polls? we're only six weeks out, and the danger is that there will be hubris on the part of republicans and -- by taking these polls so seriously so soon. >> i totally agree with you. i think there's also the reality
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that the way that we have worked right now is in this election in particular, it's going to be very tough to see a huge wave of elections changing. i mean, we've just been coming out of redrikting. that means that these areas are pretty well defined. you know, they may be right now with this tactical advantage, but this is not -- it doesn't feel like 2010 in temz of having this big tea party momentum and this popular uprising against washington and against incumbents. that is there, but it doesn't have the same sort of sense of urgency. i think that both parties realize not to get stuck in the notion that we've already figured out what's going to happen in november. >> i think that's right. one of the things we talk about in terms of the midterm elections is how the electorate is different from in presidential years that obama coalition of the ascended minorities, young folks don't turn out in as great numbers in midterms as they do in presidential years. we kind of take as this article of faith that republicans are going to get a sizable chunk, a
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larger chunk of the older folks, and democrats are going to do well among younger folks. that's a relatively recent phenomenon. it strikes me that democrats' problem in mitted terms is actually growing right now as they increasingly lose the vote over 60 years old. how much of that problem can be overcome by an effective field turnout operation that tries to bring in this coalition? >> it's always been a challenge in an off year election like that do do that. paying people to go to the polls in this year is just a nightmare for both parties frankly. republicans do seem to have an advantage. i think democrats have become increasingly more sophisticated in how they're targeting people. they've learned a lot of lessons in the last few years about where to put people on the ground. they have a much better technology gain than they've had before. they still lead republicans in their high-tech sort of operations on that side. they have a chance to do it, but
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i think it will be very, very tough. >> i sense a growing desire among wealthy liberals to get more in the game to shrink the gap between themselves and what conservative billionaires can accomplish. can they shrink the money gap? >> i think so. i think if you look at what happened with president obama, he was able to raise massive sums of money from some very wealthy people, and the campaign committees and the outside organizations that work with them are looking to try to figure out how to make that a long-term commitment to get them involved, and these kind of races in off years where you don't have, you know, somebody like barack obama who really can sort of light up a room and get people to open up their checkbooks automatically. the other thing they need to deal with right now, and that's where they're trying to mover, and i think it's a smart move for them. after the supreme court's recent decisions on campaign finance, if they don't start to do that, they're going to find themselves at a serious disadvantage. >> chris, i'll tell you, john comes out here and does these reports all serious. the funniest thing i heard all
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weekend came out of john's mouth. can't say it on tv. on the break. he knows what i'm talking about. thank you very much. up next, the next round for the clippers. are they ready for the thunder? no. is donald ready to be nba challenge coming his way? no. are you ready for more cycling? yes. [ female announcer ] what's a powerful way to cut through everyday greasy messes? [ male announcer ] sponges take your mark. ♪ [ female announcer ] one drop of ultra dawn has twice the everyday grease cleaning ingredients of one drop of the leading non-concentrated brand... ♪ [ crowd cheering ] ...to clean 2x more greasy dishes. dawn does more. so it's not a chore. live in the same communities that we serve. people here know that our operations have an impact locally. we're using more natural gas vehicles than ever before.
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game seven victory over the golden state warriors. despite sideline drama from owner donald sterling's racist remarks. now, nba officials hope to channel that same unity off the court that the clippers players have shown on it and come with a plan to move forward with the franchise. sterling's wife released a statement saying she agreed with adam silver's decision to ban him for life. he named a ceo to run day to day operations for the team until a new owner is announced. who knows when that will be. sterling is known to be litigious and is expected to challenge any forced sale. let's bring in ramona shellburn and columnist for los angeles.com who has been covering the story. ramona, i have been taking a look at what donald sterling is likely to do here, and one thing that he may be taking into consideration as slate.com has been reporting on are some of the tax implications sterling is no spring chicken.
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he is not? great health. if he is able to hold on to the team long enough to pass it on to his heirs, he would because of tax treatment benefit about $100 million less that they would have to pay uncle sam. sterling has a lot of incentive to hold on as long as he can. >> if there's an inch, he is going to take it. if there's an angle for him to work legally, he will take it. it reminds me a lot of what people in los angeles went through with frank mccourt when he was in a battle of major league baseball with the los angeles dodgers. if there was any spot where his lawyers could argue that he was being forced to sell the team under dur es, that he was being -- that he was being forced to sell the team below market value, he was going to use that. that's even agreeing to sell. when he went through that, it took six months really for him
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to negotiate with major league baseball to say if he even would sell, and then he got to sell under the most favorable conditions for him. not for major league baseball. everybody here in los angeles is preparing for exactly the same thing to happen with donald sterling. >> you are absolutely right. the mccourt situation was a mess. this situation should probably be a similar mess. there is a divorce involved. this situation as there was with the mcchords. the clippers are held in a family trust, which, of course, involves his wife, who he is divorcing. that makes it more complicated. donald sterling is a former divorce attorney, so he knows how to make this complicated. even the mayor says he expects a protracted fight. >> yeah. i mean, look, when you are wired to essentially say the way to deal with problems is to sue somebody, to -- because you feel
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like you'reotology hold out longer than they are, that's how donnell sterling has done his entire career. you've heard of the housing discrimination lawsuits that we've all been reading about over the years. there's been cases with coaches where he has fired coaches. he just simply doesn't pay them. i remember covering with mike donely who fired his coach and -- he just simply stopped paying him, and dunleavy took him to court and went to an arbitrator and won $13.5 million because dunleavy has been smart with his money and he was able to hold out. he had a lawyer, and he said, fine. i'm not going starve. i'll take you to court, and i can hold out long enough. another coach, bill fitch. this is donnell sterling's mo. he is a lawyer. he fights things this way, and in a lot of ways the reason why we're in this position is because the woman in question, the woman who made the tapes and you can draw your own conclusions about how they were released, but the woman -- she was being sued by shelly
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sterling, donald sterling's estranged wife. now, they haven't gotten divorced yet. nobody has filed for a divorce. they're separated, and they have been for several years. she sued her trying to get the gifts back. when she felt tlented by that, that's why she made copies of the tapes, and she sent them around to friends is the word, and that's how it got released. that's why we're in the situation in the first place. it reminds me, again, a lot of the mcchord case where the juicy details of why they got themselves in trouble with major league baseball all came out in the divorce case. they were all in legal papers papers. >> interesting. according to this report in "sports illustrated.com," says the conditions are focused on financial matters and owner unable to meet payroll or an
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owner implicated in financial impropriety, and none of the listed conditions si.com has told apply directly to the type of conduct by sterling. that is really the question. adam silver himself is a lawyer. they had all of their lawyers look at the nba constitution and bilaws. there's two ways of looking at it. on the other hand, you do have a legal case here because there's a law in there. i was under the understanding that you can only be kicked out if you gamble on sports or if you can no longer pay your bills. there's a bilaw in there that says if you are business practices make it such that it's also to impact the league's business, and i think that they're going to use that clause in there to simply say when you saw sponsors running for the hills, you know, in the days -- couple of days afterward, every single sponsor of the clippers ran for the hills. when you saw game five here in los angeles, all the banners
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were covered up. i mean, they had clipper banners covering every single advertise and sponsor, that is bad for business for the league, and that is the clause that they will use to say that they need to kick him out of their country club. >> yeah. i want to get back to vie stiviano. >> you think that donald sterling should apologize? >> absolutely. >> did you discuss this with him? >> yes. >> will he apologize? >> only god knows. >> have you heard him say der progresstory things about minorities in general and blacks in particular? >> absolutely. >> you've heard him say derogatory things? >> yes. >> don't they sound racist to you? >> i think the things he says
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are not what he feels. anyone can say anything in the heat of the moment. >> pretty tough defending that man at this point, but is there anything sterling can actually say or do? not to change the situation, obviously. that is what it is. but to be forgiven or to be seen in a more positive light or is he just incapable of apologizing. does he simply not care? >> yeah. i think the time for that is passed. i think, you know, that first saturday after the tapes were released that they came up friday night, the clippers issued be a statement, and they had a couple of choices. one, they could simply say i did it, i'm sorry. if anyone was offended, i really apologize. i'm sick. i need help. they didn't do that. they put a statement out questioning the veracity of the tapes saying that she had a grudge with him, that she threatened him when shelly sterling sued him. that was not the message they took. he has had several days since then. he has not done that. all indications that i have had talking to people in los angeles who know donald is that he is lawyering up and mounting a legal defense. you know, how to -- you know,
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for decades really, you can't shame him. that defense was ever going to work, it would have happened a long time ago. i think he is lawyering up and going to fight this tooth and nail for as long as he can. >> wow. >> can't shame him. i think that -- seems to be well said. michelle, thank you so much. up next, officials investigating what caused the human chandelier circus act to come crashing down. details next in your news cycle. if i can impart one lesson to a new business owner, it would be one thing i've learned is
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featuring acrobats hanging by their hair 30 feet above the ground. those performers fell straight down on to the stage possibly because of a clamp that was holding them up broke off. three of the acrobats remain in critical condition this afternoon. after a two-week break the defense team in the oscar pistorius murder trial is trying to get his case back on track. today testimony from witnesses that pistorius desperately tried to save his girlfriend reeva steenkamp after he shot her. his lawyers are trying to solidify the claim that the shooting was a terrible accident. shares of target are down nearly 3% on news that the boss is out of a job. greg steinheffle is moving aside so they can begin to repair their image following the massive data breach over the holidays. customers had their credit and debit card information stolen. another 70 million might have had their e-mail addresses and phone numbers hacked. now to the crisis in ukraine. an already volatile situation
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further spiralled out of control over the weekend. this morning gunfire and explosions rocked the city of sloviansk which has become the central focus of pro-russian militants. on saturday in the southern city of odessa militants stormed a police station and freed dozens of their allies who had been arrested. pro-ukrainian activists have a little more than sticks and clubs to defend themselves. clearly not a fair fight. germany today is calling for a second round of talks hoping to diffuse the crisis, but with neither side backing down, no one is all too optimistic about the chances for peace. ambassador mark ginsberg is back to add perspective to the chaotic situation. it's always great to see you. >> good to be with you. hi, abby. >> at this point we have very little means in terms of actually having much of ab affect here. if the sanctions actually do anything, i mean, senator john mccain hit on this with our own casey hunt. let's listen to this. >> in return for a handful of sanctions and really nothing more, look at what putin has
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gained. he is winning, and it is really one of the more disgraceful and shameful chapters in american history. >> i mean, even president obama said he is not even sure if these sanctions will actually have an effect. how far is the administration willing to go if this only continues to escalate? >> well, it's quite clear, abby, the administration is going through the incremental route. it doesn't want to use the big levers of sanctions against the -- against the putin and his oughto accuratic allies. let's be clear here. sanctions as opposed to -- so far there's no evidence that mr. putin is altering his behavior with respect to eastern ukraine. the administration was hoping that chancellor merkel and the united states at the press conference the president had on friday would somehow show a more unified force, but germany is not going to go along with harsher economic sanctions, so it's really up to the administration to decide once and for all, one, these
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sanctions have not altered mr. putin's behavior. is there more that can be done? yes. will the administration go it alone? it should. and what will be the consequences? remains to be seen. >> can i jump in here, though? what else can they do? what else can the administration do? >> the administration has not sanctioned entire sectors of the russian economy. for example, the oil and gas sector or the finance sector has singled out vehicle allies of mr. putin, and it has withheld exercise and sanctions against whole sectors, which would have far more impact on russia's economy than these individual sectors. >> putin's behavior, though, in the situation will be difficult because there's a separation with the rest of the world that is developing that he actually wants. over the weekend in d.c. i had a nice chance to talk to the women of pussy riot. really nice young women. i said it's sad that russia is being isolated from the rest of the world in this situation, and they said this is what putin
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wants because they view the rest of the world, especially the west, as immoral. they want to be cut off from the rers of the world because that and krystal's husband reminded me that this is a longstanding tradition within russian history. it seems that putin is getting what he wants out of the sanctions and it's a shame for the rest of the world because it's a better place when russia is part of the globe. >> i fwrae with that. after all, it is no doubt that whether you agree with the pussy riot girls or not, the fact of the matter is that putin wants to re-establish a hedgelonic control. those sections of the former soviet union that he lost. moreover, we have nato on his doorstep. now, if our nato commitments are going to mean anything, and i'm not talking about ukraine, we're going to have to be sure-footed about what exactly you want to do. number one. number two, yes. putin wants to be able to show that he can exercise and retame and re-establish a bipolar world, and he is going to do everything he can to accomplish
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that. the question is europe going to do anything about it, number one, and, number two, is the united states hesitation here in the end to impose real sanctions going to help the united states in the long run or in the short run? i haven't seen anything yet, tory, from the administration that suggests that imposing more sanctions is counter productive to the goal that we set. >> this is the question i was going to ask you about the u.s. hesitation. my impression was always that the united states has been hesitant to squeeze -- turb the sanctions even harder because of insist ens from germany, which i look at as the chaperone of europe. so is the reason why the sanctions are not being racheted up is because -- one, because of germany, and, two, the wariness of european nations about going -- slapping russia so hard that russia turns off the gas because they get lots of their energy from russia. >> well, yeah. it's a double-edged sword. there's no doubt that sanctions are going to affect germany.
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after all, it does 4% to 5% of its trade with russia, and there's no doubt it's been a huge lobbying efrlt by german companies against angela merkel not to impose more sanctions, and for from our perspective, it's also quite certain that the only -- that the only dog that we have in this game is not necessarily ukraine. we also have to deal with russia with respect to iran and with other issues. the president shouldn't be subjected to a lot of partisan flack here. it's a terribly challenging difficult situation. i'm really encouraging the administration to try to do more sanctions rather than wait for the germans that are not going to do much more than what they've already said. >> well, as you are pointing out, i mean, obviously the politics of energy are looming large in this situation as they seem to loom large in many of our interactions overseas and some republicans have seized on these politics to suggest that we should go forward with the keystone xl pipeline that doesn't seem like a real solution.
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what does seem like a real long-term solution herer is really pushing forward with some green energy tech development. isn't that a real nashing security imperative to make it a priority to develop new green energy technologies? >> well, there's no doubt about it. the administration deserves a lot more credit than most americans are giving it for. based on the economic polling i've seen. essentially what you have is a significant ability of the united states to ween itself off arab oil and other oil. our fracking has done a great deal, and that has been, shall we say, fracking should be done environmentally pure, which i support. at the same time green energy is going to ultimately make it easier for the united states to export more gas, more liquified gas from europe and to ween the western european countries and ukraine off of its dependence on russian oil. that's not going to happen overnight, but it's clear the administration has made
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considerable headway and has made a lot of progress in that. >> couldn't agree more. ambassador ginsberg insightful as olz. starting over. eight weeks in, rescuers are rethinking everything they think they know about missing flight 370. what will they do differently now? we will search for answers. that's next. you got the bargain kind? you need a bunch of those to clean this mess. then i'll use a bunch of them. then how is that a bargain? [ sighs ] no, that's too many -- it's not gonna fit!
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sea floor. the u.s. navy has signed on with the blue fin mini-sub for another four weeks. with the ocean floor exceeding the blue fin's range, they may relay on technology only available in the private sector. in the meantime, experts painstakingly reanalyze every piece of information generated over the past two months hoping to redefine the search zone. let's check back with friend of the show former ntsb investigator greg phife. the search zone is going to expand again. how do crews restart a search this size? >> unfortunately, they can expand it back to actually the very original search zone. the problem is that they're really not sure where they're looking. i think what they're going to have to do is they're going to go back, and they're going to look at not only the satellite data, but all of the data that led them to the search area, the current search area now and try and verify and validate whether or not that is the exact place
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they need to be looking because it's evident that we've hung a lot of, you know, hope on the pinger and the surface search area, but, unfortunately, it has turned up nothing. you can expand that to the rest of the indian ocean, but it's going to be fruitless unless you can really narrow that down, and i think that's the re-evaluation of this information. >> i mean, at this point, greg, there has been so much misinformation and confusion in this search, and, of course, the frustration of not having found anything. are we totally confident that it's even in the indian ocean? >> i think there is a level of confidence that it is in that part of the world and presumably in the ocean. if you look at where the airplane would have flown as far as if it were to stay over land masses and the radar coverage and spy satellite coverage that we have in that part of the world, if they had gone east, west, or north. there's a high probability they would have been sighted, at least by something.
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whether it be radar or satellite. they're pretty confident it's down in that part of the world. the question is the indian ocean is a very vast place. they could go 1,000 miles west and still be in the middle of the indian ocean and it could be that's where the next search area is. >> yeah. as the search area continues to shift, it seems like a real concern is the depth of the ocean. there are some areas that are so deep that even the blue finish 21 can't reach it. what other gear then should we be considering? >>. >> well, you bring up a very good point, and that's the concern now is the limitation of the technology, and really the technology exists in the private sector. that's what they use to find the titanic. that's what they used to find air france 447. we need to have a submersible that's able to get down well below in basically ten, 12, 14,000 feet because you are looking at depths of now 18,000 to 20,000 feet. it's going to be a very long
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intense search because now you don't broaden the search area on the ocean floor. you just are able to go further down. >> you talk about that technology existing in the private sector rather than with government. what sorts of things would you like to see technology-wise brought into the search. what are the companies that might have that? who is going to end up paying for that? does it add a layer of complexity to bring in private firms when we have various governments already searching? >> well, it's interesting that right now a lot of the folks that were originally part of this investigative process aren't even talked about. especially the united states. the recent meetings had the chibz and australians. it's interesting that everybody else has either taken a back seat or bailed out of this particular process. it's going to be a painstaking task. they really need to go back and
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try and verify and validate that radar -- the satellite data, the ping data that we hinged so much hope on. it could be that math that was used at the time may not be valid. that was never intended to be, you know, a very precise tracking system, and, unfortunately, there's a lot of margin of error in it. they're going to really have to go back and see if, in fact, the search area that got them into a 250 to 300 mile wide swath may be extended to 1,000 miles. the big thing is trying to verify and then getting the proper asset, and i'm not sure that under water assets are the exact tool that needs to be used to try and find this aircraft. >> yeah. greg, what are the chances this will be like stomach bellinging on the titanic years from now? >> zoo bring up a very good point. at this point because we had so many people and so much
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information both verified information and basically, you know, false information that really unless they have some defined program meters that they can say with slooulgts absolute certainty. we heard early on that those pingers, the four pings that they were using to narrow down the accident or at least the search site, that was, you know, credible evidence. it was going to be there. it was just a matter of getting the triangulation down, and it came up fruitless. i know that the families can't go through that again. they're going to really have to find some verified or validated data before they really provide a bunch of information to the folks to rebuild their confidence that has been so long in coming. >> greg, thanks very much. shifting gears, up next the top five signs you may be turning 50. >> ah oh. >> if you know the entire
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there was a boy who traveled to a faraway place where villages floated on water and castles were houses dragons lurked giants stood tall and the good queen showed the boy it could all be real avo: whatever you can imagine, all in one place expedia, find yours >> the thing is that people in america, we live in a youth-oriented culture. we're all in denial. there's a saying 40 is the new 30. 50 is the new 40. >> right. >> but no one when you are 50 and they're 40 thinks that you are the same age as them. 50 is still [ bleep ] 50. >> that's so true. >> you cannot get around it. >> the funny annabelle on being
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50 years old, and it's still being like being 50. in a hilarious new book titled "i see you made an effort." annabelle writes a series of comical essays on her navigation through life at 50. in one scene she describes her bedroom as a mine field of erection killers. sorry, mom. truth and laughter of annabelle's life at 50, the book delivers an important underlying message instead of trying to beat age, make the most of it. welcome, actor and comedian annabelle gorwich. who is the worst thing about being 50? >> oh, where do i start? okay. the thing about being 50 and, by the way, i am 52 now because i started this book at 49. i thought i would finish it at 50. we would have this big party. of course, it took me so much longer because i have a menopausal brain. i'm 52 now. the biggest challenge is being part of what's called the sandwich generation. you know, that is those of us who are tail end boomers, and
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we're caught between having kids at home or kids in college and you're still paying for them, you've got aging parents. i lost an entire week of my life trying to convince my parents that moving their street address didn't mean they would have to change their e-mail addresses. it's challenging, right? plus, you know, i'm trying to still remain employed. you are torn in all these ways. you know, people have said to me, is this a book about the journey from anxiety to acceptance? i always say, no, it's a journey from anxiety to greater anxiety. >> let's talk about the erection killers. i mean, this is hysterical. you talk about the sex fantasy of the perimenopausal set. here's what you say. where would i have an affair? not at my house. no. at any given moment a pair of spanx might be crumpled in a ball at the foot of a bed. a tube of hormone replacement cream on the nightstand. our bedroom is a mine field of erection killers. just ask my husband. i'm just going to let you go there. >> okay. let me just tell you something,
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if women will stop me and say you're going to talk about the chin hairs, right, because we should be -- we should be making -- i see you made an effort tweezers. because every woman -- it's this terrible indignity. here's my son who's in puberty getting the chin hairs and i am too. i still -- i have more than him. it is a terrible indignity right now. but let me say one thing. it is a book for men as well. there are some stories that deal with things like class and status, but i do write about the dry vagina. let me just say, i have noticed that at readings, two out of three men when they hear the dry vagina, they only hear vagina and they know it. >> jon has lost it. >> annabelle -- >> do you want me to go?
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>> no, don't help him. >> no, i got it. no, no, wait. so one of the things you say -- one of the -- jesus. >> don't help him. don't help him. >> on one of the more cosmetic but still important elements women fixate on their appearance. women in particular. women are very concerned about the chin hairs and way things are going to change as we get older. you say i've had things injected in my face i wouldn't clean my house with. i feel frozen and ultrasounded all in the name of what is referred to as maintenance. >> you look amazing, i will say that. whatever you're doing is working. >> well, thank you. the whole thing is it's so confusing because you see people in the media and it changes as a regular person who's part of maybe the 99%, you don't know what you're supposed to look like anymore. which is why actually i do have a plan though. i do write in my book when the bik earthquake eventually hits
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in los angeles, there will be women unrecognizable to their own assistants roaming the streets of beverly hills. and i will have stockpiled botox and be selling it at an inflated price out of my car. that's how i'll afford my retirement. it's confusing. when you see people like el mcpherson turning 50. she was elle mcpherson to begin with. that creates women a lot of anxiety. i wanted to bring this out in the open, say my age. there was always a lot of stigma against actresses saying their age. so actually i made this little card and this is my card from my book. i wrote my age on it. my card now reads annabelle gurwitch since 1961. throwing it down. throwing down the gauntlet. >> i'm g i think to look forward to those chin hairs. >> we've had a lot of comedians on this show. never has one slayed one of us
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♪ but the original godzilla was a powerful signifier. people left japanese theaters in tears but went to see the movie in droves. it was an example of how pop culture can reflect the people's fears. japan was wrestling with deep pain about losing the war and the bombs on hiroshima and nagasaki. after that the u.s. tested another bomb in the pacific. a fishing boat called the lucky dragon number five was 80 miles from the test site when the bomb went off. they saw a flash of light and the radioactive ash sailing down on them. they sailed home gravley ill reopening fears about the bomb. a group of film makers started
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working on a film about a sea creature that attacks tokyo. at first they envisioned an octopus but then changed to a dinosaur with skin like the burnt skin of hiroshima sur vooifrs and footsteps of thunder meant to recall the sound of the explosions. godzilla was a living nuclear bomb. the film opened with fishermen seeing a blinding flash of light just like the lucky dragon incident. it goes on to show bodies piling up in hospital halls and young kids with extreme radiation poisoning and a mom telling her young kids they're about to die. it was a vision of the attack from japan's p.o.v. this was the first major pop culture expression of what has been called japan's atom-phobia.
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film critic said the spectacle of godzilla's urban destruction was exceedingly realistic. without a doubt this was one of its major charms. a producer of the femme says the monster was meant to be like the god of destruction lacking moral agency, unable to be held to human standards of good and evil. godzilla was a manifestation of humans using nuclear weapons and thus we were all to blame. the scientists who ultimately saved japan from godzilla with a bomb called the oxygen destroyer struggles with the morality of using it until he decides that it will bring peace. the film was a huge hit and an example of how pop culture can help a society exercise its lingering fears and how a film can lead to a national exercise in catharsis. americans have experienced this around the many vietnam films, especially "apocalypse now" and "war games." and recent films about slavery.
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sometimes pop culture can function like a national church where we can all come together and deal with our greatest problems and seek peace. 60 years ago, that big ugly monster did that for japan. that does it for the "the cycle." "now with alex wagner" starts now. congressman you have the spotlight. darrell issa exit stage right. this is "now." >> benghazi. >> benghazi. >> benghazi. ♪ >> let's start with benghazi. >> the scandal house republicans can't get enough of. >> house speaker john boehner is forming a select committee. >> another select committee? another investigation. and more partisanship. >> there've been 13 hearings on benghazi, 50 briefings, 25,000 pages of documents released. >> there may be other documents. >> what we really need to do is get our hands on the documents that the white house has bee
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