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that's all for "now." i'll see you back here at 4 o'clock p.m. eastern. "the ed show" is up next. good evening, americans, and welcome to "the ed show" live from detroit lakes, minnesota. i'm ready to go. let's get to work. >> an alarming new report on climate change. >> no longer to be dismissed as tree-hugger mumbo-jumbo. >> temperatures in the u.s. could soar by as much as 10 degrees by 2100. >> the sobering forecast about how climate and weather conditions may change mere in the united states. >> the last decade was the hottest ever recorded in the united states. >> we will respond to the threat of climate change. >> president obama is moving in the right direction on the keystone xl pipeline. it's di delaying the decision. >> asking quite simply for a
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vote to approve the keystone xl pipeline. >> when i go back home exexplain my vote for the keystone pipeline. >> there's no significant environmental impact. >> bologna. >> do you think the keystone pipeline is complex? >> it's much more environmentally friendly to do it through that pipeline. >> that's sheer bologna. the fact of the matter is this is very dirty oil. >> we will respond to the threat of climate change. good to have you with us, tonight, folks. thanks for watching. back in 2008 and 2012 it was all about health care and the economy. 2014, starting right now, i believe that, six months out, and into 2016 it's going to be about climate change. do we believe, is there enough scientific evidence out there to make this country wake up and realize that we have to take some drastic steps and change what we're doing if the next generation is going to have a chance at a good life.
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the fight over the keystone xl pipeline is heating up on both sides. but wait a minute, we've got a new white house report on climate change and it isn't good news for the pipeline supporters. the national climate assessment finds that climate change -- once considered an issue for the distant future -- has moved firmly infirm ly to the present. folks, we are now in the "now" business when it comes to climate change in this country. the report cites increasing instances of severe weather due to climate change in the united states, the white house responded to the assessment saying there needs to be "urgent action to combat the threats from climate change to protect american citizens and communities today and build a sustainable future for our kids and grand kids." does that mean anything to us? is this really what president obama wants to do or is this just wordsmithing on the heels of yet another report that the
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united states better wake up. because if we do the rest of the world just might follow. now, that is president obama's report. i don't see how the presint of the united states can approve the keystone xl pipeline with this report calling for urgent action president obama will also do eight interviews with meteorologists around the country about this particular report. now, on the flip side, here we go. we've got to have the senate get involved. they want to vote on the pipeline and it could happen later this week. this has oil lobbyists going absolutely nuts in washington. here we go, the american petroleum institute, what do you think they're doing? well, they're running ads in colorado, delaware, minnesota, new mexico, and south dakota and they are targeting democrats who are planning to vote against the pipeline. >> one jobs plan brings both sides together. bill clinton and george bush both say build the keystone xl. warren buffett, too.
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so do 78% of americans and the "wall street journal," the "washington post," "usa today." it makes so much sense even a divided congress approved it. unions and business, too, tell senators udall and bennett "approve keystone xl." >> well, the ads also target senators tom carper, al franken, tom udall and tim johnson. these are the folks that they've got to get on board. there's no doubt big oil is getting very desperate within w information that's out there. even if the keystone passes the senate the final decision still rests with president obama and also the legal wranglings that are taking place in nebraska. meanwhile, some lawmakers and out-of-the-mainstream conservative commentators are ready for a big compromise. they think it's a good idea to tie the keystone xl pipeline vote to the increase in the minimum wage in this country. nothing could be worse. republican congressman tom cole
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recently floated the idea. >> would i look at a minimum wage increase i thought there were other things attached to it that would create jobs like keystone and additional things? i think i would car which because i think job creation is such an important thing. >> well, that just makes me feel all warm and fuzzy that he'd consider it if we give into big oil. earlier today senator john thune said republicans would be willing to talk about a keystone minimum wage deal. >> i voted for minimum wage increases in the past when they were coupled with things we thought would create jobs. the problem we have, i'm somebody who worked for minimum wage. i think a lot of people can identify and associate with people who are working at minimum wage levels, a lot of those people will be younger people, first jobs, entry level jobs. in my state of south dakota a lot of seasonal work we need those jobs and those jobs will go away if you raise the money him wage. having said that, i think if you were looking at a 40-hour work week going back to that, doing
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things on keystone; things we believe will create jobs, that would be a discussion i think republicans would be willing to have. but right flow we're not getting any indication from the democrat leadership? the senate that they're willing to entertain votes on those issues. >> let me get one thing perfectly clear with the audience that watch this is program. i have the facts, i've been to nebraska, i've been to south dakota, i've been out there, i've talked to the folks, i've talked to the officials on the ground who know about the jobs. i've talked to the unions which most conservative commentators never talk to. the jobs will be few and they will be short term. now conservatives, i'm making it really easy for you to understand here. normally it's a two-word culture but i'm giving you three that you need to consume tonight. "few, short term." three words. that's what the jobs are going to be like when it comes to the pipeline. it is outrageous. republicans consistently try to come up with a new form of
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hostage-taking. you know what? we'll do something for the working poor if we can make sure that the koch brothers line their pockets with billions of dollars. the bottom line is that president obama president obama, this day, has more information than he's ever had before to say no to the keystone xl pipeline. he's in the perfect position at in moment to reject it now. reject that pipeline now. and as far as a compromise on minimum wage it is absolutely outrageous and ridiculous. i don't understand why everything has to be horse traded. everything has to be a deal. you mean to tell me we have come to the point in time in our economy with income inequality the way it is and the working poor in this country and the number of people on assistance that we don't have a single issue that can stand on its own merits? like maybe paying hardworking americans a livable wage. we have to do a deal on this.
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this is what's wrong with the country. congress gets in the way of common sense thinking. if this is the democrats' idea of addressing income inequality, to go off and do a deal with billionaires who are going to take that profit and run it against democracy in this country then i'm out. i'm out. we need a -- i need a new party, i need a new affiliation of where the heck this country is going. maybe we need a workers' party or something. we rey jekt the pipeline and get minimum wage. that should be the democratic liberal progressive position in this country. it is not a job creator. both are the right thing to do. reject the pipeline, say yes to the minimum wage increase. and you know what, senator thune? i worked for minimum wage, too, in my life, okay? but you know what? the economy today is a heck of a lot different than the one i was in or the one that in your
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opinion when you were working minimum wage and this is a false equivalence and you know it. but it's a great talking point, i give you credit. just remember, folks, there's been a lot of talk in the meet ya about all these groups that are being funded by 2 koch brothers. the koch brothers have huge interests in this pipeline. they're going to make billions of dollars, even more. what are they going to do with that money? throw more money at advocacy groups to strike down democracy? throw it right into our political process so we can become even more of an oligarchy? why would the democrats want to give the republicans a political victory that they would go home and say we got the pipeline and, oh, boy the way, we also got minimum wage. why would the democrats do that? when are the democrats going to realize that climate change needs to stand on its own merits. and so does income inequality in this country. and when it come toss a point that we have to deal a deal to make sure that billionaires make
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more money so people can make $10.10 an hour and you want to know why america's angry? america is disconnected from the conversation like this because it makes no sense whatsoever. the horse trading sometimes has to stop on key issues. and if the republicans are going to hold the democrats hostage on climate change, they're just digging their own grave. it is not a job creator. the oil is not clean and there's no guarantee that trans-canada won't be sold to a foreign country and, oh, by the way, 30% of our agriculture in this country underneath that pipeline if it's built and it's going right over the aquaer if and if it spills there's no cleanup. no. it's contamination. so i don't think that the conservatives have a leg to stand on. but they have allies out there that will let them say whatever
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they want without the facts. i want to do a story on the first conservative broadcaster that goes to the indian reservations in south dakota to listen to them. i want to do a story on the first conservative broadcaster who goes to bradshaw, nebraska, and talks to the folks that i talked to and listen to what they have to say about the damaging effects of the keystone xl pipeline. you can even take the state department survey with you. but you know what? there's another survey out today that says we better wake up as a country. get your cell phones out, i want to know what you think. tonight's question -- do republicans want to line the pockets of big oil more than they want to help working americans? text a for yes, text b for no to 67622. you can go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com. for more, let me bring in senator sheldon whitehouse of
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rhode island. senator, thank you for your work and stance on the environment. you're way ahead of the curve. you're in front of a lot of lawmakers in this country. i want your response, senator, to this keystone minimum wage compromise that's being floated. >> i think the keystone project should fall on its own merits. the effort that the coal and oil industry is making to big foot it through congress with the old-fashioned techniques of arm twisting and bullying and throwing money around is really -- it's unpleasant to watch and it's wrong on the facts. it's really a contest between the science and the truth and taking care of our children and grandchildren and knowing what we know and a lobby that simply can't say enough and is using every tactic it can get its hands on to try to bully its way
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through this issue. and at some point we've got to stand for something and at some point we've got to stand up for what's true and for what's real and for what's going to matter to our grandchildren and not just a quick hit from the oil company lobbyists. >> senator, how credible and how important is this most recent report that came out today? >> it's important. it's very credible. it's the top american scientists. it's people from all of the agencies that we trust, including places like nasa. remember nasa? they're the people that put an suv-sized vehicle on the surface of mars and they're driving it around. do you think they know what they're doing? and their scientists are saying, look, this climate change thing is serious. the dart of defense is in its quadrennial reviews, climate change is serious. we've got to do something about it. admiral locklear, the head of pacific command says the biggest risk we've got out there of all the risks they prepare for the
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pacific relate to climate change. so for the oil industry to try to bully congress into pretending that this isn't real is, as you said, ultimately they're digging their own grave and they should try to come around and be sensible about this, but once you've been a bully it's hard to learn a different set of strategies. >> senator, after this report, do you believe that the president has enough information to say no to this pipeline? >> you know, even that report that the state department did gives the president enough information to say no to this pipeline. that report says that you run the tar sands fuel through this pipeline and into the market and you add the carbon equivalent of 5.7 million cars. 5.7 million cars. you think how hard the obama administration worked to bring down the mileage standard so that we'd get more mileage and we'd get better carbon results from our fleet and now you turn
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around and you're going to undo most of that with one bad decision? i don't see that happening and i particularly don't see it from secretary kerry. secretary kerry is passionate about protecting the atmosphere and the oceans from all this carbon pollution. i think it's really hard to imagine that he'd be willing to get rolled by big oil and big coal. >> finally, senator, describe this vote that's going to take place in the senate later this week. what does it really mean, if anything? >> well, we need to see what the vote is. the republicans are running the goalpost all around the field trying to make sure that we can't actually end up getting to a sensible vote. it started with just a sense of the senate, then it was a dispositive vote, then it was loaded up with a whole bunch of other things, i don't know what they're still trying to add on to it. if they end up with a keystone vote it could be sent to the senate but i think harry has
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already agreed to having a vote on the merits and i think we'll win that vote and then we'll move on, but with any luck we'll be able to pass the bipartisan shaheen-portman efficiency bill which is an important piece of legislation. >> senator sheldon whitehouse, great to have you with us, sir. >> good to be with you, ed. >> let me bring in democratic strategist inyu professor bob trump. bob, good to have you on tonight. this report, is this president obama's out? does this erase all question about what he should do? >> i don't think so. i think that the process will move forward. i think kerry who, as senator whitehouse just pointed out is a leading environmentalist, a strong proponent of acting against climate change is going to have a-to-make a decision here. the president will have to sign off on that decision. our ought augment ought to be whatever your position on the pipeline this process ought to work its try a sensible conclusion according to the law. what the republicans want to do is short circuit it. now, there's some democrats who,
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by the way, are going to vote with them. they're generally people like mary landri landrieu, they're f regular election in states that have high concentrations of folks in the energy business. they're going to vote for it. there aren't enough votes to pass it, i'm absolutely sure of that, number one. and i'm even more sure if the president did pass it the president would veto it and they don't have enough votes to overcome the veto. >> what about this talk about a deal with minimum wage? can't the democrats take a position that minimum wage has to stand on its own merits? >> oh, sure, and, ed, by the way, you won't have to find a new party. democrats are not going to agree to this deal. they're not going to say, sure, you can have the keystone pipeline in return for the minimum wage. it's outrageous, it's demagoguic, it's an attempt, as you said earlier, to take another hostage. look, the republicans have become -- and not all of them believe this, but they think they have to be this way -- they've become climate deniers. they can't survive. you listen to some of these republicans who are running in
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2016, they sound like they're running for president of fox news not president of the united states. >> great to have you with us, bob shrum, appreciate your time. coming up, the supreme court cracks the barrier separating church and state. the rapid response panel weighs in on. that first, joni ernst lays off the hogs and takes aim at obamacare. trenders is next. stick around. we're right back. . to mother's day... to graduations. and now your chevy dealer is giving you plenty of reasons to celebrate every day in the month of may. everybody's gonna be jealous. get great offers on chevy's most fuel-efficient line up ever... whoa! here i go. ...and start celebrating. right now, get this sign and drive lease on a 2014 chevy malibu lt for around $249 per month. celebrate may in a new chevy. find new roads.
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voted on by you. >> whoa, careful annie okley. >> the number three trender, take a shot. >> you're not your typical candidate. >> you can say that again. joni ernst trades the pig sty. >> i'm joni ernst, i grew up kas trading hogs on an iowa farm. washington's full of big spenders, let's make them squeal. >> squeal, squeal! >> for the shooting range in her latest ad. >> once she set hearse sights on obamacare, joni's going to unloa unload. >> it really is who i am. give me a shot. the number two trender, call of duty. >> a woman stopped breathing after overdosing, she was near death until the oregon governor came to her rescue. ♪ here i come to save the day >> if it weren't for his quick actions, fire crews say things might have ended up differently.
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>> oregon's governor proves to be a lifesaver again. >> before he ever got into politics, the governor was an e.r. doctor. it's not the first time the governor has played the role of first responder. back in april, 2010, he stopped a debate in eugene to stabilize a man who was having a seizure. >> you're my hero. in today's top trender, the niners. house republicans will form the ninth congressional committee to investigate the attacks in benghazi. >> nine times. >> nine times? >> what are your central questions that you want to learn from it? >> same three questions, martha, that i had 20 months ago. >> what's the point? >> here go your tax dollars, folks. republicans won't give up on their benghazi witch-hunt. >> i want to talk to everyone who has firsthand knowledge and i want access to every document. >> what else about benghazi is the obama administration still hiding? >> everything that this committee would look at has already been looked at ad nauseam. >> i am not interested nor did i sign up for a committee that is
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not going to get to the bottom of it. joining me now eric boehlert, senior follow at media matters. eric, what else is there for the gop to learn about the benghazi attacks that hasn't been uncovered or talked about in the past? this thirst for new information, why won't it go away? >> because it's not the correct information. i mean, you know, we've had several investigations just in january, the senate select committee released their report on benghazi and it was a bipartisan support, actually, that debunked lots of the right wing myths, that was there was a standdown order, that there was no connection with the video, that obama had ignored previous warnings and things like that. so we've had reports. we've had independent reviews, they're just not the right answers so the republican position is let's start all over. we've done this for 20 months, let's start all over. it's interesting. what was the midterm election season supposed to be all about?
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it was supposed to be about obamacare. it was supposed to be about the debacle of the health insurance. fox news doesn't talk about obamacare anymore. and why is that? because eight million people signed up. there was a torrent of positive headlines in march and april about the cost and things like that. so they've gone to plan "b" and plan "c" and here they are. so this is the only topic that, you know, the right ring noise machine is going to talk about. and so as you point out, the entire thing hinges around unanswered questions. if you just repeat that enough i guess you can get more investigative committees up on the hill. >> well, this congressman that has been appointed to head up the ninth committee claims that there are -- that they have not had access to documents. >> right. >> that there are documents out there that have not been released. what's your response to that? >> well, i think, you know, we're going back to the white water era. now it's about documents. now it's about what was reacted. now it's about who e-mailed who
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and now we're just down the rabbit hole. i mean, what the select committee suggests is, you know, the house investigations have been incompetent for the last two years. why weren't they able to uncover all this information? and, you know, again, so we have a political problem and we have a press problem and it's not just fox news. i mean, just this week we're finding out that cbs hasn't been completely transparent about what really happened with their "60 minutes" benghazi debacle last year and how that's -- how a report that poorly sourced was able to make it to air. so you think the politicians, you think the press would sort of learn from their mistakes but the right wing in this country seems to have a grip on the agenda. >> how much does hillary clinton play into this? the fact that she was the secretary of state at the time and that there really seems to be a desperate attempt to prove that she's incompetent? >> again, this has been the talking point since beginning.
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if you read most of the article there is's sort of this conventional wisdom that these investigations are now all about hillary. there's almost no evidence that this has hurt her in any political way. i mean, her support among democratic voters is unprecedented for two years outside of an election campaign. she has double digit leads over most republican candidates so we have -- there's no evidence, the idea is, oh, more hearings were going to hurt her, it's going to hurt democrats but, again, fox can talk about this all they want, there's no evidence that it's -- that the american people are as obsessed nor is there any evidence that they ought to be this obsessed. we've had the investigation. we've had the oversight. >> well, we've got lindsey graham using the term "smoking gun." i mean, they're selling this thing hard. they've been hecklers from the stands on the economy, 50 months of private sector job growth. they've had nothing to do with that. obamacare has done a 180.
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it's not how you start, it's how you finish. >> right. >> so your point is that this is all about successes as much as it is if there might be something there on benghazi. there has not been one democrat that's come out and questioned this whole process saying, you know what? there might be something new here. none of that is out there, is it? >> no, and, again, if this were strict -- you know, as i mentioned, the senate was -- that was a traditional bipartisan senate review. and, again, if you go back to the clinton years, there were democrats that supported certain investigations. there were democrats that had serious concerns about some of those so-called scandals. this is down the aisle, pure partisanship and, look, if fox news wasn't driving this the republican party would not be starting more investigations 20 months later. they are prisoner to that right wing noise machine. >> eric boehlert, media matters, good to have you with us tonight. thanks so much. >> thanks. >> still ahead, the separation
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of church and state is getting thinner. rapid response panel weighs in. and later, the self-appointed militia at the bundy ranch gets very aggressive with residents. congressman steve horse ford joins me with the latest. but next, i'm taking your questions, ask ed live just ahead on the ed show on msnbc. we're right back. . we're moving our company to new york state. the numbers are impressive. over 400,000 new private sector jobs... making new york state number two in the nation in new private sector job creation... with 10 regional development strategies
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juddson "what do you think widespread charter schools would do to our education system?" well, i think it would destroy it as we know it which i think conservatives really want to do. they think that privatization of everything is the way the country has to go. the great thing about public education is when the doors open, everybody's welcome. the rich, the poor, the gifted, the challenged, and for some reason, that system's under attack in america because we are trying to make the case from the conservative point of view that this teachers union thing is no good. and they got three months a year off and they just got it too easy. it's all wrong. if we go down the road of charter schools and a big majority, what we're going see is minority kids in this country really shortchanged when it come to opportunity and that is not the america i grew up in. i'm proud to say that you're looking at a product of public education. stick around, rapid response panel the next.
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court cleared the way for local officials to open public meetings with explicitly christian prayers. if you can't see why this sets a dangerous precedent, look no further than alabama's rory moore. mr. moore, the chief justice of alabama's state supreme court, is best known for refusing to remove a ten commandments monument from the alabama judicial building back in 2003. well, the hits keep coming. earlier this year, moore suggested the first amendment really only applies to christians. >> everybody to include the united states has been deceived as to one little word in the first amendment called religion. they can't define it. they can't define it the way mason, madison and even the way the united states supreme court defined it. the duty wes owe to the creator in the manner of discharging it. we don't want to do that because
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that acknowledges the creator god. buddha didn't create u.s. mohammed didn't create us. it's the god of the holy scriptures. they didn't bring a koran over on the pilgrim ship may flower. let's get real. let's go back and learn our history. let's stop playing games. >> if you need further proof of the dangers of religious favoritism, there's always louis gohmert. >> like john adam said, this was intended to govern moral and religious groups, it's not fit for governing any others. it's only people who lay claim to their god and their guns. >> joining me, political commentator and tv host john fugue l sang and reverend barry lynd of americans united for the separation of church and state. great to have you with us tonight. reverend, what's your response to that kind of rhetoric. does that interpretation make non-believers or people of other
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faiths in our country almost second class citizens and look down upon? >> oh, it absolutely does make them feel like second class citizens and we, of course, sued judge roy moore to get that ten commandments monument out. he was eventually thrown off the alabama supreme court by all of his colleagues, all of whom are other republicans. unfortunately, he did run for reelection and, in a strange circumstance, got reelected. judge roy moore has written, ed, that it would be okay for the state of arizona to pass a law to execute gay people. he has also suggested that even though there's no law in the state of alabama at the moment prohibiting abortion, god's law is more important than state law and they could and should be prosecuted anyway just like the nazis were prosecuted after world war ii. so this is a guy who not only is a bigot but he also doesn't understand the constitution, he
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has a bizarre understanding of holy scripture of the christian faith. that's a trifecta of ignorance that is very damaging, very dangerous, and luckily only two members of the current united states supreme court seem to be moving in his direction, so far off the cliff that there's no way to go but down. >> well, that's my next point, reverend. i mean, this supreme court ruling, 5-4, almost opens the door for moore to do more of the kind of rhetoric that he is known for. your thoughts on that? >> yeah, absolutely it does. the good news is, though, that there is in the opinion yesterday of the five justices in the majority some things that apparently would still be unconstitutional like discriminating against a non-believer or discriminating against hindus or muslims and doing so in a very deliberate fashion. or if instead of hiring somebody or having someone come in from the local clergy, if it was the
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legislators themselves who gave the prayer that could be open to constitutional challenge and i can tell you in the last 24 hours we have heard complaints at americans united from people coast to coast saying we think that our city council or town government has gone so far that even after yesterday's bad ruling we still think they're doing something wrong. they're going counter to the very nature and flow of the country where we try to be more sensitive to people of different belief systems or people who don't have any religious background but five members of the court yesterday seem to be moving in the opposite direction trying to prove that because we had a certain kind of prayer 200 years ago obviously nothing has changed and we don't have to be more open now. that's a silly, a preposterous theory of governance. >> john fugue l sang, moore tried to walk back his statement on monday telling "montgomery
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advertiser" that the first amendment "applies to the rights god gave us to be free in our modes of thinking and as far as religious liberty to all people regardless of what they believe." i'm not quite sure how that this ex-plan nation changes anything. your report to that. >> well, ed, this is why modern right ring christianity has become the leading cause of atheism in our society and it proves that right ring christians like judge moore are dumber than a box of myrrh. eight of the ten commandments are completely legal in this country and coveting our neighbor's goods is what our entire economic system is based on. this is all about the fact that sheep need to be fleeced. so roy moore says this, says exactly what they wanted to here, this tidal wave of ignorance at this speech that he gave where he talked about how we have to only honor the god of holy scripture not realizing that muslims worship the exact same god of holy scripture and no one ever said buddha created the world or that mohammed did either, that's allah. so he's dumb as a box of myrrh.
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we know that. the thing is, we've allowed congress to worship the golden cough op calf and it's the liberals who are the real conservatives on this issue because separation of church and state is the conservative point of view. >> you know, it's -- >> what does this mean -- go ahead, reverend. >> i was really disheartened that the obama administration came in on the side of having these prayers in greece, new york, the decision yesterday because they said we're worried that if they couldn't pray maybe the congress couldn't pray. really? truly, ed? you think president obama thinks that the fact that john boehner has a prayer before the house of representatives every morning has led to good positive legislation? i mean, that's absolutely silly. >> and it's unbubbly cal. >> and that explanation from judge moore, you can put monkeys into a room with a couple typewriters and they could have come up with a more sensible comprehensible statement to what judge moore did do back-pedal
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his way out of that outrageous statement from last week. >> but reverend that's not -- the thing i get with it is it's not really about christianity. it's about christian supremacy. >> yes. >> jesus says you take care of the poor and the less fortunate. this is about a whole different thing, establishing christianity as the dominant religion. if jesus came back he wouldn't sue to make his name be said in caesar's house because jesus wasn't about asserting personal power. the irony is, these are the guys praying for a separation of mosque and state over there, erasing the wall of church and state over here and it's interesting with scalia law is like sharia law. >> good point. >> john and reverend lynn, good to have you on "the ed show." coming up, tennessee state senator stacy campfield should keep his thought of the day to himself. pretenders is next. i am totally blind. i began losing my sight to an eye disease when i was 10. but i learned to live with my blindness a long time ago.
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clive bundy are stooping to a new level of intimidation tacticses. larged groups of armed acceptitieses are camped around clark county and the locals don't like it. one local reporter was met with verbal confrontation. >> do you feel uncomfortable with your questioning? who do you work for? the american people or another entity. do you believe that the media is state run and that some of your line of questioning are not representative? you don't think so? >> the interrogation escalated. the questioner made a statement about race. >> i don't think it's right. >>'ll you don't? >> as a mexican-american, you said. why do you believe that you need to inject mexican-americanism into your line of questioning. >> it's about race. >> it's about race, is that what what you said? do you believe it's about race? is that what you said? his words were taken out of context.
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his words were taken out of context. . >> what you did was cowardice. he's a god fearing man. >> the reporter was essentially run out of the area. >> you are not serving the american public. you do not deserve even first amendment constitutional rights, sir. >> this is a very clear case of intimidation, throwing the term constitutional rights around doesn't get to the root of the problem. cliven bundy is a lawbreaker. the innocent citizens of the clark county deserve protection. they shouldn't have to put up with this. reporters working to tell the country the story deserve what some of us would call professional space. they're camped out there because they're waiting for the government and it seems to me they're itching for a confrontation. nevada congressman steven
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horsford represents the area and joins me tonight. you went back home, what did you hear from your constituents about this? >> well, thank you, ed, for having me on and for bringing attention to this issue. and while fox news and sean hannity may have abandoned cliven bundy, the militia armed separatists that are there haven't. and that's why the residents of bunkerville and the surrounding communities feel unsettled. they are in a situation where they are literally fearing for their lives. we have local law enforcement who thought when they were going into the situation that they would very well die. this is a fuse that has been lit and while it's calmed a bit, it's still very much a serious confrontation out there. >> what do your constituents want? what are they telling you? >> what my constituents in bunkerville and the sur rounding
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area are telling me is they want these arm the separatists to leave the community. the local land issue is one that we can solve on our own. we are working with the local sheriff and other elected officials. i'm reaching out to the governor and others to make sure that we work together to address the underlying issue. but as you said, cliven bundy is a lawbreaker, he needs to pay up to the federal government, but most importantly, the armed separatists need to leave our community. >> you call them armed separatists. i'm curious about that definition. >> well, one of my colleagues who serves here in the house, w who is a decorated war veteran says using the term militia gives them more credit than they deserve. the group left is a fringe group that's remaining. the oath keepers even left because they felt unsafe with the situation out in bunkerville and at the ranch.
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so these are groups that are against the federal government. they have an alternative agenda. they're not focused on cliven bundy. the cows or public land. they're against the federal government. but we don't need their agenda in bunkerville or in nevada. we need them to leave our community. >> and congressman, what do you want the governor and other officials to do? to take action. what should they do? >> what i want governor sandoval and other officials is to send a united message with me and with the local residents of bunkerville and the surrounding community that we want the armed acceptitieses to leave our community. we can solve this problem ourselves. governor, ooer elected officials stand with the people and ask these armed militia to leave our community. >> all right. congressman, we will follow the story. doesn't sound like they're going to be leaving the neighborhood anytime soon. in the meantime, your constituents are really agitated
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and concerned for their surt. we will follow the story. thanks so much for joining us tonight and thanks for sticking up for your folks who you represent in that part of nevada. "politics nation" with al sharpton starts right now. >> good evening. and thanks to you for tuning in. later tonight, we'll be joined live by senator elizabeth warren. we'll talk to her about her fight for fairness, for equality. and why she says republicans have the magical thinking. we're excited to have her with us. but we start with tonight's lead. for the first time, a christie staffer who was inside that trenton office before, during and after the lane closings is speaking out. publicly and under oath.
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