er ] call an allstate agent and get a quote now. that's all for now. see you back here tomorrow at 4:00. "the ed show" is up next. >> good evening, americans, welcome to "the ed show." live from detroit lakes, minnesota. i'm fired up and ready to go. let's get to work! ♪ >> let's get on with this important keystone vote. a binding keystone vote. >> this particular pipeline called the keystone xl pipeline. >> we've got to have the senate get involved. >> people have very strong feelings. >> working with the senate republican colleagues reminds me of chasing one of these pigs in a greased pig contest. >> senate democrats would rather pan ter to the part left and shut down debate. >> they want to vote on

keystone, they can have a vote on keystone. that's not good enough for them. >> it's simple decision. >> you think the keystone pipeline is complex? >> time to stop studying, start building. >> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. ever wondered what the republican party's position on climate change is? let me give it to you quickly, facts don't matter. ever wonder what it's leak in a republican caucus luncheon on the famous tuesdays, week after week? this didn't work, this didn't work, this didn't work, we better try this. that's where they are right now, republicans can't get traction on anything. even with big oil on their side. now all week long they have been trying to get a keystone xl pipeline vote, that has failed as well. harry reid refused, and he used a parliamentary maneuver to block republicans who wanted to

sneak a keystone measure into the energy bill. okay, here we are. let's try anything we can. reid suggested an up or down vote with a promise for a separate vote on the keystone xl later on. they didn't buy that. what republicans are constantly trying to come up with some new form of hostage taking time after time. but out of material at this point. they've tried to jam the keystone pipeline through the back door of the energy bill and again they have failed there. republicans senator mitch mcconnell went on the defensive saying that reid was stifling the voice of the american people by refusing to allow amendments to the energy bill. >> even if senate democrats would rather pander to far left and shut down debate, republicans are going to keep fighting for the middle class. >> stifling voices, think about that.

the republicans, their leader, mitch mcconnell trying to say democrats are stifling voices. but john boehner's not doing that in the house when it comes to an up or down vote on minimum wage, on unemployment extension or climate change or immigration reform? who's stifling who? mitch, who you kid, come on. the only ones pandering are republicans. and they're panderring to big oil and big oil lobbyists, they're working hard these days. keystone thing is getting tough. a symbolic vote, they couldn't get that. republicans couldn't get 60 vote needed to approve a standalone bill on keystone but claim everybody in the country wants it. well the guy to watch is north dakota senator john hoeben, safe as anybody in the senate. he couldn't deliver the mail. some of the richest operate in

oklahoma and he's the legislative quarterback. the three-term governor let the oil company dozen whatever they want, just go get the oil. he now carries the torch in the senate. he expressed his opinion on the keystone xl last week. >> the decision that the president needs to make is a simple decision, is this pipeline project in the interests of the united states or is it not? is it in the interest -- and this is after his state department said there is no significant environmental impact created by the project, not once, not twice, but four times. so it's a simple decision. >> simple. everything is just so simple. just say yes to big oil, yes to big profits for those who want to tear down our democracy, and don't worry at all about the aquifer because this is never going to leak. it's so simple. you see, everything has changed since the national climate

assessment has been released. you know that report that came out of the white house where it took three years and 300 of the best scientists in this country to study exactly where we are when it comes to climate change in this country. we just can't have any more come out of the ground right now. but it's just so easy. he's taking absolutely no risk by doing the oil companies bidding again and pushing for passage for keystone. but he couldn't deliver, bottom line. pandering to big oil isn't the only thing republicans are doing of late. also pointing fingers looking for somebody to blame. their latest target, here we go, tom stire. starting running this ad in colorado. >> pipeline delays a victory for tom but a slap in the face for american workers call mark udall, put colorado ahead of his

billionaire backer and support the keystone pipeline. >> if this is a slam dunk why is big oil spending so much convincing you this is right thing to do. it's activism, activists in colorado on the front line pushing back on the oil and gas industry. you know what, it's working. local communities are working to pass anti-fracking legislation, conservatives, oh, they don't like that. colorado democratic congressman jared polis the target of name calling and threats on twitter for his stance against big oil. to break it down, first of all, i say, the facts just don't matter to the in fact, they'll even try to convince you that the democrats are the ones who are trying to stifle voices. yet we just can't seem to get any votes on job packages or helping unemployed or minimum wage or immigration reform. there's no such thing as an up or down vote when the democrats

want it. now what we have is a real problem, all of a sudden this keystone xl pipeline is big trouble for the republicans because they can't even get a simple vote, they can't get the 60 votes in the senate -- this is supposed to be their baby. now one more thing, about this jobs thing, notice since the national climate assessment has come out, all of this legislative wrangling has taken place with t republicans, they're trying to jam this in on the energy bill and none of them are talking about jobs. you know, you see charts when the republicans talk about keystone xl but they don't give me any job charts. isn't that what america's concerned about right now, building, rebuilding, and making our economy better? tell me, republicans, maybe you, senator hoeven, sense you're an economic development guru, how many jobs will the keystone xl

pipeline create? how many? for how long? it's not brain surgery. given plea a number. s show me a chart of jobs that keystone's going to bring to america. you can't do it because numbers don't exist. remember, few and short term, that's the job assessment for this pipeline. anybody that tells you anything different is totally wrong. the next thing the national climate assessment, they're going to tell you that doesn't matter. have you seen republicans come out and say you know this has got some merit we need to think about climate change? no. because facts don't matter. that's their climate change policy. there is no policy. facts don't matter. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. will republicans ever accept defeat on the keystone pipeline? 67622, go to our blog, we'll

bring you results later on in the show? talk colorado tonight and the tracking going on out there. congressman jared polis joins us tonight. appreciate your time. way to stand up to big oil and question exactly what they're doing. since you have been so aggressive, congressman, what kind of communication are you getting from constituents and the public? >> all encouragement. four of the five biggest towns in my districts banned practicing and i argue that's their right if a town or community wants to have it, done want to have it, i'm all for it. i don't weigh in if i don't live there what they want to do but i think it's everybody's right to determine land use and zoning in their communities. >> congressman, do you think the momentum on keystone is starting to shift? >> you know i think it just might be. i think that people are starting to realize that, as we chart our path to renewable energy, the more that is wasted on legacy

and old and antiquated technologies only ties us oil and gas longer. there's a reason that the oil and gas industry's gotten a bad name in some areas included in my state. infringing on everybody's else right, rather than being happy with fracking where they're welcome to do it and people want them to do it they're reducing property value by 10%, 15%, hazardous spills occurring hundreds of times a year in colorado. when that get naz residential areas, people get worried and upset. >> the republicans in your state have been in denial. ryan call, chairman of the colorado republican committee, posted on twitter saying, we shouldn't negotiate with terrorists. the tweet has been taken down. what's your response to that? >> he was referring to me, believe it or not, ed. somehow the republican party chair considers me a terrorist for trying to protect homeowners

and communities from having practice fracking too close to homes. i don't gather the logic at all. it shows, like you're saying all along, these guys have drank cool laid or so reliant on the money, it's overcome their sensibilities. >> well that feeailing on all fronts and losing momentum. they couldn't get the vote in the senate on keystone xl. what about that? a stanalone vote, they claim the majority of americans polling out there, everybody wants keystone xl, why can't they come up with 60 votes in the senate to take a position statement and absolute position on who wants what on keystone? >> you know what, ed? let's trade them a vote. if they agree to hold a vote on immigration reform and minimum wage and the house? i will personally call harry reid and encourage him to hold a direct vote in the senate. if that's how this stuff gets

done in the town, let's get immigration reform done, minimum wage down. >> i like it. jared polsi, good to have you on "the ed show." let's me bring in mike. good to have you with us. this is the second time republicans insisted on amendment votes when they realized it's simply not going to work. is this falling apart for them? is all of the big money that big oil's thrown at this, is this starting to unravel? >> harry reid's making it fall apart. good for harry. we see that fighter side of harry reid. but the xl pipeline issue is giving us a clear picture of how disgusting and dirty the world inside the beltway with politics has become. one side, you've got whinny, colicky republicans holding up things like the minimum wage that millions of americans are counting on.

republicans are also use pipeline to attack billionaire progressives like tom stire. he wants to tell the truth about climate change, spending $100 million to educate the american public that climate change is going to kill their grandchildren if they don't do something about it. so, on the other side, there's another part 0-to-this, it has to be talked about, you have the white house who has to use the pipeline to attract democratic campaign money from energy industry. like it or not, that has to happen. that's the place obama's put in. if he commits, that's what the delay is about if he commits now he runs the risk of not attracting those people saying, maybe we have a chance with the democrats so he has to delay this thing. add to that the number of both republicans and democrats who are out and out lying, as you pointed out. we know the number, ed. the number by the state

department is that it's going to create 35 new jobs. that's after the republicans told it's, forever, that it was going to be 2,000 jobs. so these -- >> i want a chart on the senate floor. i want to see the chart on the senate floor, the big 35 number. i want to see that big 35 number. here's what's happening, as i see it, mike. this national climate assessment causes real problems for the pipeline vote. >> yeah. >> it's almost you either believe this or you don't. and if you don't go along with the national climate assessment, you're a denier. i mean how much resource -- it's one of the most resourceful things and i also think, i want your thoughts, does it negate the state department statement on the impact of the keystone xl pipeline? does this play into it? >> it was suspect -- the state department's assessment was suspect to gone with. when we looked aat where they got their information it came

from industry, little have environmental activists who understand what the risk of this whole thing really might be. but this national climate assessment, ed, the job for the democrats is to educate the public about how strong this statement is, we're not talking about you, we're talking about your children and grandchildren. and until the american public can put the selfishness aside and say, it's all about me, i've got to worry about me and start thinking they have children and grandchildren, if you read this national climate assessment, that is who we're talking about here. so there has to be some pivot by people who think rationally. >> they're not even advocating wind or solar. they don't want any investments. they think the private sector's going to attack catake care of everything. the private sector's run by big oil. situations in the country where incentives are ripped out when it comes to wind and solar because big oil is driving the

engine right there in the united states senate. but now we may see things changing a little bit. here's another thing i want to bring up. i think is really important. we have seen the republicans wrong on a lot of stuff. they're off to a bad start on climate change what they're denying. how is the poublic going to sta with them in denying when it's one report after another about what we're going through on climate? they're digging their own grave politically, aren't they? >> they have a methodology, to take the obvious and turn those facts on their head. they know it works for them. they have -- they have looked at it time time again, focused it. take the obvious, turn it on its head, and sometimes the public buys into. that's why you now just have a little movement from the public on issues like fracking. you have some movement on the issues of pipeline. they're willing to spend tens of millions of dollars to gain control of the senate this next go round.

know what the issue is? climate change and jobs. we'll see that all over the place. >> no doubt about it. good to have you with us. answer tonight's question at the bottom of the screen, share your thoughts with us on twitter. also like us on facebook. thanks so much. coming up -- marco rubio resorts to name-calling as the florida governor's race heats up. first, republicans turn their benghazi investigation back to hillary clinton. debbie wasserman schultz coming up. that's why i like glucerna shakes. they have slowly digestible carbs to help minimize blood sugar spikes. [male announcer] glucerna...

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successful secretary of state? >> overplaying our hand we do so at our peril. >> we'll send subpoenas and expect her -- >> joining us, congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz of florida and the chair of the dnc. good to have you with us. >> thanks. >> you don't are to watch the other network for very long to find out the hillary factor's involved in all of this. your take on the way this has turned towards hillary. >> well, just a few weeks ago, my republican colleagues especially their leadership, said that the affordable care act and their obsession with re repeal was issue one, two, and three. a funny thing happened with the remaining obsessed with affordable care act. it got more popular, 8 million people signed up, a 20-point drop in the belief the affordable care act is a bad thing. because you know what? people don't want their insurance companies to drop them or deny them coverage.

so, what republicans did was they next turned to another base motivator, cliven bundy and latched on to him aa hero. that kind of blew up in their face quickly. now they've relatched on to benghazi. this is after 13 hearings, 50 briefings, 25,000 pages of documented provided by the administration and now speaker boehner a few weeks ago said didn't need a select committee, that the house was going to do its work, now suddenly we need a select committee to get to the gotth bottom of what? how they're going to make sure they have an issue to turn right wing tea party base out. that's all this is about. >> it's been reduced to asking why it was susan rice on the sunday talking shows instead of the secretary of state hillary clinton. >> and then the comment made by lindsey graham that, if you don't like going on sunday shows, don't run for president.

isn't that what this is all about, to somehow get a date to hillary to make her seem incompetent ten and not ready for the position? >> they don't have straws to grasp here, ed. that's why they've resorted to comments on, you know, media decision, media appearance decisions. what we should be doing and continuing to do with benghazi is working together to, a, like secretary clinton said make sure nothing like this ever happens again, and bring perpetrators to justice and also when it comes to making sure it never happens gone we beef up embassy security. >> they denied funding on that many times. mr. gowdy, congressman, former prosecutor, says it's not going to be a hearing. he says it's going to be depositions. what does that mean? does that change the landscape at all. >> look, trey goudy has raised

money off of benghazi, i mean, selecting him to lead this, i mean, he is one of the more extreme tea party adherence to their right wing doctrine and you know, it has been obsessed himself with benghazi. i mean, choosing him was very transparent, what they're trying to do is make sure that this remains an election year issue. they are going to fan these flames, and try to get this as white hot as they can. the problem is the american people want us focus on job creation, focus on getting the economy turned around and creating opportunities for everyone rather than the select few the republicans care about. >> do you think hillary clinton will or should cooperate if she is subpoenaed? >> you know, secretary clinton has been cooperative all the way through. she has come and testified in front of the government oversight committee, even after she was no longer secretary of state. she was willing to do that.

and like i said, the state department has -- and the administration has released 25,000 pages of documents. there doesn't appear to be anything left to do except use this as a republican method of fanning the flames to gin up their base. >> okay. so should she not pay attention to the subpoena and should the democrats ignore this, quote, select special whatever the heck it is committee to go after benghazi? >> well, look, if they're going to actually make this fair, what leader pelosi has said, and i agree with her, committee should be evenly split, the same number of republicans and democrats if they're going to attempt at a fair quote/unquote investigation. but if they don't, then we should -- i think leader pelosi should seriously consider having us not participate because you know sanctioning this sham would be ridiculous.

>> so unless it's even, you say not participate? >> i think that's something that leader pelosi should seriously consider, that will be her decision and she'll make a recommendation to the caucus. look we shouldn't lend this credibility when what it is, is as transparent as it is, which is nothing more -- they're not trying to get to the bottom of anything else. there was a nation met, led by admiral mullen, 29 recommendations of the process of being implemented, this is nothing more than them trying to keep this alive because they lost the affordable care act as an issue, they couldn't latch on to cliven bundy anymore, they've got to find something to turn their base out. frankly if you look at communications, one of the communications staff at the rnc, what she said the other day they were going to latch on to this issue and make sure that as much attention is possible paid to it because they know that it fires up their base. that's all this is about. you know what?

it's disgusting because we should make sure that we get to the bottom of it so it never happens again. they should support increasing embassy security. >> the way they're acting, it's a bottomless pit, the way they're -- benghazi is the bottomless pit when it comes to news coverage. congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz, chair of the dnc, thanks so much. still ahead -- the gop's race problems. is brought into focus in florida. the rapid response panel weighs in on that. later, president obama is finally taking a stand against republican obstruction and calling them out. chris van hole toniglen to join.

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perceived as being anti-women, anti-immigrant, anti-minority, anti-gay, anti-education, anti-environment. i wasn't comfortable being hon effo with myself. i left the republican party because republican leadership went off the cliff. i saw how the party, some of them, were treating the friend american president and i couldn't take it anymore. >> it is politically hot in florida. welcome back to "the ed show." thanks f thanks for watching. charlie crist won't sugarcoat the problem with race. republicans marked president obama as the enemy from his first day in office but the conflict penetrates deeper than plaque and white. oppression all over the country, the hotbed now is florida, at least one of them. republicans want to ensure one part of society stays down, latinos. republicans actively fought against immigration reform,

anti-latino rhetoric is tolerated. vetter suppression efforts target latino communities across the state. senator marco rubio attacked the statement but was rubio understore scored the points. republicans don't want a conversation about systemic oppression. rubio says crist's observations aren't serious. >> democrats will be embarrassed he became a democrat. i never met a single republican activist involved in my campaign that has ever in my opinion ever been motivated by race to state their objections. i think it's absurd. >> you think he's a phony. >> absolutely. >> the senator has no grounds to call anyone a phony. rubio's part through a facade of transition claiming the new gop will rely on inclusion and outreach maintaining core principles. i have to ask the question, what

core principles? the modern gop is dependent on oppression. it is their mission statement when it comes to minorities, when it comes to voting, when it comes to the working folk of america, oppression is their mission, that's what they're all about. joining me tonight on "rapid response" panel, anna revias logan. anna, has marco rubio set the tone for latino outreach in florida by attacking charlie crist like this? >> well, i'll tell you what, it's naive of him to say there's no bigotry in the republican party. i personally was attacked during my campaign by my republican opponent for being nicaraguan, being born in nicaragua. he did a robocall, saying don't vote for her.

and the republican leadership knew thises and going on and none of them did a darn thing. so to say that there's no bigotry within the party, i am here to stand and say there is bigotry is alive and well in the gop. for all them to stand by and not do one darn thing was beside -- i was beside myself. >> mitch, six months out, we got good old name calling going on now. we've got a united states senator calling a gubernatorial candidate a phony. how's that going to play? >> look at what we're dealing with. dealing with republicans, race, and rubio. in my neighborhood we call that a very ill balanced combination plate. those things just don't go to together well. i find it obviously disinagain u was for marco rubio to talk about that. this is the same senator -- i'm ashamed he's our senator when he talks about shame -- the same guy that would push immigration

reform. the tea party, his party, got on top of him and he backed off of that. look, we can talk about the way the republican party acts and i don't find it hard to hear that governor crist make the comments he made. we could talk about the failure of the republican party to disassociate themselves during the campaign from the ridiculous charges against our african-american president talking about he was born in africa. we can talk about the republican party's total stymieing of our ability to raise the minimum wage. we could also talk about them doing everything they could to stop the unemployment extension. and that not only happened nationally that happened under governor rick scott in florida where we had a website down for many months that they did nothing to fix. so, when the republican party talks about minorities where it's african-american, hispanic, they have a long and complete record of being very much not in the helpful mode. >> and anna, what do you think

of charlie crist coming out so open about the republican party, why he left, and going after him? how do you think that's going to play with independent voters across the board in florida? >> well, i think that the independent voters are tired of the rhetoric, especially from the tea party. they're tired of the right wing rhetoric. i think it will play very well with independent voters. that's why they're independent. they want to make up their own decision. they don't want to be swung by any party. but charlie crist is absolutely right to say bigotry and racism is alive and well it's alive and well in the republican party. i was a republican at that time. my own party attacked me to get votes, use cheap shots. let's not forget the republican party of florida failed to implement medicaid. we have the largest number of individuals that really, really need to expand medicaid and they refused to. he refused to. it was very sad because the

speaker who was presiding over the chamber at the time personally used this when he was a child to save one of his family members, but yet to give it to another human being in state of florida is not acceptable. i'm tired of this. i'm ready to see a governor in the state of florida that is for the people, for all of the people, not just for the right wing rhetoric people. >> and finally, mitch ceaser, what is the outreach program for republicans in florida because as it demographically sits right now, the republicans have no chance in south florida. and a lot of people are telling me that's the breadbasket of the victory. >> well i think you're absolutely right, ed. as licensy graham said, who is no democrat nor any liberal, hi comment was the republicans have a math problem and continue to do so. south florida, the point spread between rick scott and literally

anybody is gigantic. i think what the key is pointed out are independents and that's if it's collar charlie crist the nominee, that's his greatest strength. rick scott's going negative on charlie crist spending millions of dollars even now. and the poll don't seem to have moved in his favor. i think he's going to find out south florida's a problem. >> it is so politically hot. can i move to florida? i tell you, this is -- this is where it's going to be this fall new york doubt about it. anna and mitch, great to have you with us tonight. appreciate your time. coming up -- michele bachmann's brave stand against women's history. another dandy, folks. ns down. don't worry! the united states postal service will get it there on time with priority mail flat rate shipping.

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the president also criticized republicans for preventing the passage of unemployment insurance. he says helping americans in a time of need is not a government handout. it's the job of government to help the folks work fighting for. if you put it in a nutshell, we know what the democrats are for and we know what the republicans are fighting against. i'm joined tonight by congressman chris van holland of maryland. good to have you with us tonight. >> good to be here. >> how much do you want the president -- you're on the democratic leadership team. how important is it for the president to get out and talk about obstruction? >> i think this is the first time he's really done it. what do you think about it? >> i think it's very important. the american public needs to know exactly what's happening here in congress, here in the house of representatives. this is the do-nothing congress when it comes to helping the middle class and when it comes to jobs. let's just look at what speaker boehner has refused to vote on. he's refused to vote on an

increase in the minimum wage he refused to vote on unemployment compensati compensation. he refused to vote on comprehensive immigration reform. he refused to vote on the president's jobs plan. the only thing they vote on is this reveal the obamacare 50 times. so set up another committee on benghazi and to pass a budget that provides huge tax breaks for people at the top at the expense of everybody else. that's their agenda when it comes to workers. it's a big fat zero. worse than that, because they're blocking every effort we've mad to try to get votes on those bills. >> so i've got to ask you about benghazi, the shift all of a sudden. it was all about health care, that kind of went bad for them. 50 months of private sector job growth, they, of course, have been on the sidelines. hecklers from the stands is what i say. they say no to immigration reform. so now the president is out

front and center. he's the best campaigner out there. how much of an impact do you think this could have as a backdrop to the conversation? >> i think it's essential. the big thing we need to do is engage in the public on all these questions. and i think they'll be engaged when they realize that speaker boehner and the house republicans have just said no to everything that would make a meaningful difference in the lives of most of the american people. when people see republicans doing another hears or another round on these conspiracy theories around benghazi. when in people's lives, they care about their kids' education, they care about jobs, they care about making sure the federal transportation fund doesn't go bankrupt this summer as it's scheduled to do unless we adopt some of the president's

proposals. i think when they look at that mismatch they will decide to get out of their houses and get out of their chairs and go out and vote. >> congressman, do you think the republicans really believe that there's new information here? that could have a huge impact on benghazi? that whole story? >> i think what's happening here, ed, is that the republicans in washington are actually using the republican base. because thy convinced a lot of republican voters a lot of tea party voters around the country there's this big conspiracy. they know very well here in washington from reading the facts, like the two bipartisan committees in the senate, the intelligence committee and homeland security committee, they didn't find these ridiculous conspiracies. here in the house, i think they know that after four separate committees have looked at this, there's not much there. but it riles up the base, as you saw today. they're trying to raise money. they're trying to raise money.

the national republican campaign committee is trying to raise money off the tragedy in benghazi. they're taking advantage of their base. their base is going to wake up at some point, i hope. >> congressman, appreciate your time tonight. thanks so much. that's "the ed show." politics nation starts right now with reverend al sharpton. good evening, rev. >> good evening, ed. and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, politicizing tragedy. that's what's happening right now. house republicans are expected to vote on forming another benghazi committee. you are looking live at the house floor where they'll vote for a brand-new gop-led panel to investigate the 2012 attack. and if you're getting a bad case of deja vu, you're not alone. because we' beve