does not mean gay and transgendered people. perhaps house republicans and their leader will come up with a definition of people that is a little more inclusive and a lot more accurate. that is all for "now". i'll see you back here tomorrow at 4:00 p.m.. the ed show is up next. good evening, americans. welcome to the ed show live from new york. i'm ready to go. let's get to work. >> a dramatic development in the saga surrounding bun decidy. the fbi is on the case. >> a normal investigation into alleged death threats, intimidation and possible weapons violations. >> many in the crowd had pointed weapons at officers. >> these people are waiting for the big federal apocalypse. >> if we're here to make a stand, then let's make a stand.

>> they're waiting for the big war. >> stand up and do what is right and tell the federal government when we've had enough. >> there will be consequences. >> good to have you with us. thanks for watching. let's roll it back just a little bit. remember occupied wall street? do you remember how the conservatives just loved to desgrd grade those kids out there, trying to change the conversation in america? and that is exactly what they did. they didn't get any laws passed. they were out he at the mark pa. it did make america focus on the things that were important, 99%. i remember how the conservatives treated them. let me ask you this. how do you want to treat this group right here? you could easily look at what is happening out west as just a product of the conservative talkers and conservative media

in this country that really want us to find a boogeyman when it comes to any kind of government regulation or control. supporters of the racist free loading rancherranch e eer bun back at it again. fox news planted the seed. fox news devoted countless air time promoting bundy as i think it was a great american as a great american hero. fox bailed once they found out he was a racist. but it was too late. the bundy movement has blossomed into a weed that really no herbicide can kill. they have armed -- been armed, they aimed rifles at federal agents. set up road blocks. perfectly good citizens out there abiding by the law.

they have intimidated reporters. they have put their foot down drawing their line in the sand so to speak. this weekend, bundy supporters staged a protest against the pure bureau of land management and recaptured canyon, utah. i thought i had heard of recapture canyon utah and i thought it had a lot to do with native americans and sure enough, these protesters rode their atvs in opposition to the blm closing of certain trails in the area. now, the group is also upset about some slow approval over some new trails that might be out there. overall, the theme in recapture park was very simple. these people are upset with the federal government. >> i was back in here when i was in high school. i know we've been here forever. and for a governmental agency to just acquire it, to just take it over say it's not yours anymore,

that's really frustrating. >> it's what we're here for is to do the hard things and tap up and do what is right and tell the federal government we've had enough. >> the polimessage is that we'r frustrated and the federal government is doing nothing to solve it. but we're not bad actors. we're not looking to cause problems, not looking for violence. >> really? well, some of the protesters were peaceful and followed the rules. there were no arrests or confrontations at this event. others showed up with armed assault rifles and they broke the law. they rode atvs on closed trails, the trails ran through sacred native american cultural lands of the navajo nation. >> it also attracted people unafraid of confrontation. cliven bundy and his family rode their atvs into the banned area. he says staying in the blm

designated area doesn't make any accepts abo sense. >> it shows cowardess toward the federal government and the bureau of land management. if we're here to make a stand, let's make a stand. >> what kind of stand are you talking about? leave to a bundy to break the law. the blm will pursue charges against those who violated laws saturday. there is no doubt tensions are running high. last week a federal cattle wrangler was threatened by masked men, men wearing hoods pulled up to a blm employee and showed him a sign that read "you need to die." one of the men then pointed a handgun at the blm wrangler. there was no evidence linking the masked men to bundy supporter, but sgdoesn't it mak you wonder what is going on here? the fbi is currently

investigating the armed standoff. they are looking into threats against law enforcement officer, illegal weapons and anti-government militias. the seed of hate against the federal government, it's growing out west. and things are getting worse. more and more people are joining the ranks to protest the bureau of land management. it could be blamed on one thing as i see it, and that is the conservative media. you see, the conservative media hates barack obama so much and can't stab the liberal platform so much that they want to view them as a threat and the best way to do it is to give the microphone to people like this, platform them up for two weeks on a cable network, don't back down until there is unrefutable evidence that the guy is a racist. i won't forget about that. so now we have got government officials in this country wondering what do we do if we

try to enforce the law and people are openly armed with assault weapons. these folks want something to happen. they want the government to react. so they can react and then who knows what the hell will happen. so how do we diffuse all of this? maybe it would be good if the network in question that was so in love with cliven bun decide wou bundy would say something to these folks illegally on the land with the atvs. maybe you should go through the normal channels of protest. do you have representatives in washington? are they with this sgloud no one knows where it will end or how it will end and it's kind of scary. it has the roots of a movement that won't end really peacefully. i hate to say that. but this is how it goes, isn't

it? if they were minorities, would they be fired upon? would they be forced to abide by the law? and are we now seeing a culture develop in america, well, you can do what you want, we'll just decide which law we're going to uphold? get your cell phones out. tonight's question, has the conservative media fueled a dangerous anti-government sentiment? text a for yes, b for no. or you can go to our blog. we'll bring you the results later on. for more, we have brian mathly. you were that the protest. were bundy supporters a big presence in all of this?hat the. were bundy supporters a big presence in all of this? >> yeah, i think they were. it was a local protest, but they

made their presence known. >> did you interview them or talk to them about why they were showing up out of their area so to speak? >> i certainly tried. they had little interest in talking to me and frankly, they were pretty openly disdainful of the media. >> what did you want to do when you were there, what good you want to ask them, what did you not get out of them that you wanted to get out of them? >> i was very interested in why they traveled to utah and wanted to participate in this event. and why they felt it was necessary to come armed. >> what role did a county commissioner play in this. >> well, that he an interesting question. phil lineman helped organize the event, but he oftentimes would say he was not organizing it, but he really did help stage it and was an emcee at a rally ahead of time. so he played an important role. but we have to be very clear he was doing it as a private individual.

>> doing it as a private individual, but making a public appearance as an elected official. he's a county commissioner who reportedly has taken the same position of cliven bup deci en when it comes to recognizing the federal government. is that characterized correctly? >> i don't know if he'd go that far. l lyman's position is that they need to have more control. it's at least 90% federal land there because of the navajo reservation. but it's mostly federal and they are concern that had they are being shut out of the decision making. and that's in large part what motivate that had proced that p saturday. >> the atvs have not been allowed on these trails for some time i understand.

>> that's right. it was closed to atvs in 2007. what prompted that was the discovery that a trail had been constructed through there and had done damage to a number of arc loheological sites. it is incredibly rich and dense with archeological sites. so what happened was they found this damage to these sites and a year later decided that it was best to keep it closed to atv use to preserve those sites. >> so the bureau of land management made the decision because the land was misused not to allow the atvs to go in there anymore, to respect the rights of the navajo nation, correct? >> that's correct. but they were reviewing an

3w4riks that t application that the county made to establish a right-of-way. they were trying to figure out how to route the trail in a way that would not impact those sites. that has dragged on for several years and the political leaders in that county have pretty much lost patience. >> so we can only speculate why people out of the region showed up at a local protest. as a professional reporter, how would you characterize it? >> that would be pure speculation. but i think they identify the recapture protest with this larger movement to defy federal authority. >> okay. brian, good to have you with us tonight from the salt lake tribune. appreciate your time. let me bring in former montana governor brian schweitzer. good to have you yu you on toni. your thoughts on what would settle all this down. you've done a lot with bureau land management as a governor being involved in situations like this. what scares you about this, what

would diffuse it? >> well, even more importantly, as you know, i'm a third generation rancher here and i have a master's degree, so i understand the resources. leading up to the dust bowl, folks used the land for whatever they wanted. this they diverted the rivers and it created the dust bowl. so now we is professional managers who are managing your land. this land belongs to somebody in new york just like it belongs to somebody in utah. and what these professional managers are doing on the ground is saying what is good for the resource? how many cattle would we allow to graze here? where is it roept appropriate t atvs? how can we best take care of this land? and now this cliven bundy bunch giving advice to people in utah on how to deal with the blm? that's like the aryan nation

giving advice for donald sterling. the bundy bunch are grifters, they haven't paid their fees, they haven't cooperated with the federal government. they don't even recognize the federal government. and these tea party militia fox trotters are a bunch of ne'er-do-wells, they aren't people that have legitimate businesses on the land. you wouldn't get ranchers to stand next to bundy. people in the mining and oil and gas business on federal land, they wouldn't stand next to these people because they make a living on that federal land and they listen to the rule of the land. >> so the ulterior motive is to make the bureau of land management, the boogeyman here. these people are really upset about any closed trails or any a it tv access issues. >> well, they might be, but there are millions of other acres that they can go to.>> we there are millions of other acres that they can go to.tv ac. >> well, they might be, but there are millions of other acres that they can go to.>> we there are millions of other acres that they can go to.

0% 30% of montana is owned by the government, 80% of nevada. there are places all over the west to rec create. some allow atv, some don't. some allow hunting, some don't. some allow oil development, shall don't. so go to the places that the professionals have decided this is the place for do what it is that you like to do. >> so governor, this seems to be the beginning of standard operating procedure. defy the law and wait for the government to do something. will the government just pick and choose what to do with these malcontents that show up with high powered automatic rifles? >> if you point a gun at law enforcement or federal officials, you should have no expectation of this ending good for you. now, we don't want to have a confrontation. we just want them to go back home and cut wood or ride their motorcycle or whatever they do for a living. but if they continue, they will

be prosecuted. as law abiding citizens, we can't have it any other way. we're a land that has rule of law. we're not i can't then. we're not somalia. we're a land that has laws. and we all have to follow those laws. we can't decide which ones we follow and which ones we don't. >> and the scary element is that that is what it seems to be evolving to. this is far from over. governor schweitzer, good to have you with us. appreciate your time. remember to answer tonight's question there at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter and facebook. coming up, donald sterling asks for forgiveness. but first, ghosts of republican primary pasts are lining up in support of the big 1010. bernie sanders on the way.

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significantly. most americans, though, $7.25, it's a starvation wage and thousand we're beginning to hear some republicans who say, look, you voted against extending long term unemployment, you want to cut medicaid, you want to transform medicate, cut back on education and now you don't want to raise the minimum wage. we won't get a lot of votes doing that. so i think we keep pushing this issue. i think we'll win. and at the end of the day, i think we will raise the minimum wage. >> so people that don't vote, santorum, pawlenty and romney, are the ones stepping up trying to drill some sense into the republican party and it's interesting that mr. romney when he was running, i don't recall him advocating for a minimum wa wage increase at the time. >> i think some of these guys understand quite correctly that the republican party is identified with the top 1%, more tax breaks to millionaires and

billionaires, more moving to china. and if they want to win elections, they need to start paying some attention to the needs of low income and working families. >> boehner says it's bad policy. that means for code it will never even be wrougbrought up f vote. >> i'm not so sure to be honest with you. if we can pass it in the senate, i'm not sure that there are some republicans running for reelection may not want to see it pass. >> they tried the keystone pipeline last week on it. it doesn't work. >> what i think has to change is that millions and millions of people have got to tell the republican leadership and members of congress that it is unconscionable that when people are making poverty wages, that we're not raising the minimum wage. as you well know, compared to 1968, if the minimum wage went up with inflation, it would today be somewhere around $10.50

an hour. >> senator, let's talk climate change quickly it f we can. there was a three year study over 300 of the best scientists that this country has and yet marco rubio, who says he's ready to be president of the united states, says we've always had changes in the climate and he doesn't believer t the scientis. isn't this a message to big oil i'm your guy and maybe the koch brothers saying you can count on me to carry your water? >> i think absolutely. i think it's also a message to the republican base that continues to reject virtually all of the scientific work on this issue. and i got the to tell you, ed, what the scientists are telling us is that time is running out. that unless we transform our energy system away from fossil fuel into energy efficiency and sustainable energy, hour kids

will be livering in a very unhospitable planet. >> what rubio said, isn't that the ultimate denial you've ever heard? >> i really have to say this, you and i have all kinds of differences with republicans. but to totally reject what the scientific community is saying is really embarrassing for our nation. >> senator bernie sanders, great to have you with us. thanks so much. still ahead, donald sterling apologizes, but gee frequedefle. and later, game change. the nfl drafts its first openly gay athlete. michael sam. but it wasn't up tntil the last round. and i'm taking your questions. all we do is go out to dinner.

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feel the consequences. adam silver has taken a hard line to get sterling out of the league. sterling seems disconnected from reality and he's making the case he's the victim? >> why the girl had me say those things. >> you're saying you were set up. >> well, yes, i was baited. i mean that's not the way i talk. >> well, it is. sterling is not only playing the role of a victim, he's on offense. clippers owner wants exemption from the same disdain he hurls at magic johnson. >> did you apologize to him? >> well, if i said anything wrong, i'm sorry. he's a good person. and he -- what am i going to say? has he done everything he can do to help minorities? i don't think so. >> dude, rendering judgment on magic johnson but looking for redemption on your own part? pretty interesting strategy.

it's not about magic johnson, it's about you. the clippers owner doesn't see himself as racist. that's another stretch. clearly sterling is trying to rehabilitate himself in the public. so maybe the nba will reverse its decision. fat chance. rapid response panel with us tonight. goldie taylor and terrence moore. mr. moore, we'll start with you. this guy is trying to salvage himself. what is your reaction to what you're hearing? >> i'm not a racist. i am not a crook. you know, sports is a microcosm of society and what we've seen over and over again is that you basically have two sets of races out there. you have the kind that play mind games. i think of like a george wallace. he's elected to governor of alabama in january of '63, segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever. and then a decade later, all of a sudden when it's not convenient to be a racist, it's

like i was never against black people, i was for states rights. then you get this other set of racists that donald sterling is a part of. he honestly believes what he says. i believe that. when he says something like if i said something wrong -- if i said something wrong? but the thing is whether you're fwa talking about a george wallace or donald sterling, they're both in position of power and they're both dangerous and they both are trying to fool people. >> golddie, i understand the lawyer coaching going on here. go out, say you're sorry, do the best you can in an interview and maybe public opinion will give you a little ray of hope that you might be able to hang on to the team. but then he goes and takes a swipe at very successful businessman magic johnson. what do you make of that? >> i would submit to you that

kenya moore from the real house wives of atlanta had a better media trainer than donald sterling. this is not sterling's first time at the rodeo. if you recall, this guy had the largest department of justice settlement in the history of will country for racial discrimination in housing in the los angeles area. this guy certainly understood what he was saying. and the context in which he was saying it. the very idea that he was taped and that it was like eaked? maybe i was sympathy. but the owners agreement says these other openers have the right on vote him out of the league with three-fourths of the vote. >> it's a franchise. not saying that he can do anything he wants here. terrence, i want you to respond to this sound bite about ownership. here it is. >> when you saw them take off the jerseys, wear them reversed

and the name clippers wasn't on in that first game, what did you think? >> i really didn't pay attention. they are clippers and they're mine and i'm theirs. that's how i feel. >> they're his? what does that mean? >> that means that we're back instead of 2014, we're back in 1814. but i'll tell you something else, ed, we cannot let the owners off the hook because this is what people are not focusing on enough. donald sterling, if you listen to him in this interview and other interviews, these words are coming off his lips too easily. what i mean by that is he's been an nba owner for 33 years. you don't think he talks this way at cocktail parties with other nba owners? so the question is doctwhy was allowed to last as long as he was with david stern as commissioner and adam silver was his right hand man. >> that's the point i was making earlier in a previous broadcast.

because it wasn't until the sponsors started to unload on the nba. >> exactly. >> when it became a financial element involved here, gosh, everybody's attitude changed all of a sudden. goldie, sterling says his apologize came late because he was so distraught. do you accept that? >> i don't accept that. what i do accept is that donald sterling wants to hold on to this team so they can pass ownership down to his children and they can receive the tax credits that come that way. if this team is disposed of now and those children then inherit cash, then their capital gains taxes to pay and the inheritance will be less. but lets g's get this straight. donald sterling will no longer be an nba owner and as soon as his controlling interest ceases, his wife's ceases as well. so we're not going to hear very much from the sterlings after this is over and we'll see a new cast of owners come. we saw dick parsons give his

press conference today as brand new interim ceo. that is the right direction. i expect adam silver to keep stepping in that direction. make no mistake about this, we knew who donald sterling was before. but it was up to the players, it was up to the fans, it was up to the other owners to push this along and make this happen. >> here's richard parsons who was serving as the clippers interim ceo. here's what he had to say today of donald sterling's apology. >> i would observe as most americans i think would observe that he's a little late for sure. but beyond that, you know, i'm here to help turn one of the burners off under the pot. not to turn it up higher. >> tear rerrencterrence, what a. >> i was going to mention this, dick parsons was the head of time warner when time warner bought the braves essentially from ted turner. and dick parsons is basically a

guy who just lets the team run itself. the braves have great management. he let terry do his thing. parsons is excellent for this. what he'll do, the basketball guy is going to just -- department are will continue as it has all this way. so this will be a very seamless operation. particularly with doc rivers in charge. >> and of course sterling's wife as i read it, she is saying her husband's not a racist. it would just seem to me that she's trying to salvage her portion of the team, some cash on the line here. >> and i have a bridge over the chatahoochi river i'd like to sell you. it is about cash. in terms of dick par son, he's been ceo of citibank, banker by trade. so he certainly understands financial operations.

in terms of bringing sponsors back and beefing up the bottom line, dick parsons is the man for the job. he will let basketball do what basketball does. and so i think that it absolutely is the right decision. but will shelly sterling be coming back to the clippers as an owner in some form or fashion? i doubt very seriously. >> alreadgoldie taylor, terrenc moore, thanks for your time. coming up, feeling persecuted by gay marriage supporters. pretenders is next. to gauge whether or not the projects will be done in a timely fashion and within budget. angie's list members can tell you which provider is the best in town. you'll find reviews on everything from home repair to healthcare. now that we're expecting, i like the fact i can go onto angie's list and look for pediatricians. the service providers that i've found on angie's list actually have blown me away. find out why more than two million members count on angie's list. angie's list -- reviews you can trust.

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phone. there you see the raw emotion. we've seen this so many times over and over again for so many players. >> folk, that's the game changer. millions of americans watched the nfl draft. no one bats an eye when a prospect celebrates by kissing his girlfriend or wife. the culture of sports is evolving and this moment in football will play a role in afciafc i -- affecting social change. sure, there were reactions, bust this image tells the next generation of young gay athletes it's okay to be who you are. of course, the folks across the street had an entirely different spin. >> we're talking about a double standard. because demarcus walker, who is a linebacker at florida state tweeted out this, you all praise michael sam for being gay, be uh you all mock tim tebow for being a christian. smh, shaking my head, #society. >> another commenter said is, let me get this straight.

tim tebow is open about his faith and gets major backlash. michael sam is open about his sexuality and gets major praise. i heard many people that thought the display after he was chosen was inappropriate. i hope he does so well, but i thought when he, you know, when he was really going at it. >> joining me now is the retired punter from the minnesota vikings in the nfl. chris, good to have you with us. would this have happened five years ago? what's changed? >> no, i don't think this wow happened five years ago. in terms of civil rights progress, it's been positively lightning fast. you know, you look back in the early 2000s, and you had guys openly speaking out against gay players saying they would never have a gay player in the locker room. we made a lot of really good strides. there's still plenty of work left to be done because he was oorjally patrioted as a third round pick and ended up being taken at the end of the seventh. so still more work to do. >> there's a big difference

between the third round and seventh round. michael sam on record saying that he should have been drafted higher. what's your response to where he was picked and by the team as close to his college, the university of missouri, the st. louis rams. >> well, i think he has a fan base already there and the rams know that. they know this is a guy who will get fans out to the game. i think he definitely should have been taken higher because he was the sec all-defensive player of the year. and the previous sec defensive players of the year, i think, have all gone in the first round. maybe one went in the second round. so it's something that, you know, for him to go in the seventh round really shows you that there is something going on there. for a lo the of teams, it ma i not even be bigotry, it may be they don't want the whole distraction aspect. but on the flip side, tebow got drafted in the first round and he brought all sorts of baggage with him. what's the difference between him and michael sam? >> according to producers at espn and the nfl network, there

was really absolutely no hesitation in airing michael sam's reaction with his significant other. what does that say to you? does this go beyond football? >> yeah, i think it's a really good sign. there shouldn't be any hesitation. it's a player who just got drafted. this is one of the most exciting days of his life and he's celebrating it with the people that he loves. and one of those happens to be his significant other. why does it matter if it's a man or a woman? we have commentators basically lusting over players' girlfriends. brent musburger, that was a little awkward. but it's all of a sudden now people think it's a big deal when michael sam kisses his boyfriend? it's the exact same thing. two human beings who lue each other. >> out sports reports that jerseys with michael sam's name on it are currently second in sales. he not only has a local fan base, he's got a national fan base. what do you make of it? in fact, it's ahead of the guy that was picked number one, clowney, overall in the draft. who was the first pick.

so people are showing support with their wallets. that's got to help. >> yeah, and i think it's a really good sign for society as a whole. what it does is it shows you that people care about this. people are invested in this. and now they have a role model. they have someone who they can look up to. and michael sam is much like jackie robinson. he's the first person to be in the league that other people can look up to. and you know, it's a great day for the united states. >> chris cooley, you have never stopped being an advocate. you felt you were let go for speaking out in support of marriage equality. what would be your advice to michael sam? does he have to watch what he says and how he handles himself or? how do you see this playing out in that form, in that way? >> well, i think he has an advantage in that the team knows and players on the team know that mike is openly gay and it allows the coaches to set an atmosphere of saying hey, mike

is a good football player, he's a gay football player and if you don't like that, then don't let the door hit you on the way out. you're not going to be on this team if you can't handle that. that's on the top down. all mike has to do is go out and play football. he knows how to play, just stay relaxed and go out and do it. >> what about that? what if he ends up making the team, gets a starting position. i don't know what the situation is with the rams. if he recovers a fumble, intercepts a pass or gets noticed in the statistics of playing, any kind of criticism will leave the sports arena, won't it? >> yeah, it will. and for mike, it's going to be a slightly tougher situation in st. louis because they do have a very strong defensive line. he's going to be competing for a fairly limited spot. but what he can do is go out and show on special teams that he's there to contribute any way he can. and, you know, st. louis may end up cutting him, but f he gets the chance, if he's allowed to

show during otas and fre season, just like everyone else is allowed to show what they can do, that's what we're looking for. your sexuality shouldn't matter. >> thanks for joining us. "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton begins now. >> good evening to you, ed. and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, speechless in the gop. the affordable care act is working and republicans literally don't want to talk about it. it's quite a change from the beginning of the year when they were plotting another year chalk full of healthcare repeal votes. >> this law is a disaster. in my opinion, obama care is on borrowed time. >> we need to repeal every single word of obamacare. >> if i had my wie about it, we would repeal obamacare and start all over and get it right. >> we could repeal obamacare and get this monkey off the backs of the american people. >> it was