six-state primary. should mitch mcconnell be feeling the heat this morning? vital signs, hillary clinton is delivering a speech in the capital and maybe she has something to say about dr. rove's 2016 dyiiagnosis and we will keep our eye on that. and a stay of execution, a texas inmate is spared hours before the lethal injection and we will talk to the attorney who helps to keep this inmate alive and hear from the family of the victim as the debate reignites over capital punishment in ameri america. i'm chris jansing, and veterans are fuming about the way they are treated at v.a. hospitals packed the town hall in phoenix last night. >> they have done nothing but harass me and i have turned over a claim for depen si two years ago and it is not done yet. >> and when i went into the service, i was promised to get the best health care possible and we would get licensed doctor

doctors and stuff to see, aed now i am told that is not true, you don't get to see none. >> and chances are that you know the allegations, 40 veterans died wait foing for the care in arizona and the phoenix facility is accused of having a secret waiting list to cover up how long the veterans waited for care. and now nbc news has learned that the v.a. officials have learned about the problems, and a v.a. memo from more than a year ago march 2013 indicates that officials changed the way that kcomputer systems worked ad so that not only computers burk humans could time stamp to better track the wait times burk then allegations are that the problems persisted in hospitals across the kun tcountry. senators from both sides of the aisle are sending letters expressing their outrage to v.a. director shinseki. some of the senators are calling for him to resign. jon tester is a member of the veteran affairs committee.

>> great to be on with you, chr chris. >> and you have been hesitant to call for director shinseki to resign and if the buck does not stop there, where? >> well, that is the problem, chris. we have to find out who is responsible for it, and hold them responsible, but if the problem is in shinseki's lap, we will will hold him responsible and no ifs, ands or buts about it, but the bottom line is that we have to get the facts. if you heard the allegations like out of the phoenix system, that is totally not acceptable, and when a veteran says we were promised health care and we should get it, and that is what should be happening and we should be working to get it done. if you have folks with two sets of books, we have to know why that occurred and who did it and heads are going to roll. and on the other sidef of the coin if the i.g. investigation shows up something else, we will deal with that issue. >> and there is a report with the inspector general about the problems at the v.a. and some of

the colleagues have said that they are going to grill shinseki tomorrow, and let me play some sound for you, senator. >> and in many instances the inspector general and the gao have studied the circumstances and reports have been made to the department of veteran affairs and a question of the secretary is did he know, and if not, and if he did not know what was in a gao or inspector general report, why not? >> and yesterday on the program, congressman charles rangel who is himself a veteran went so far to say that if they find out that somebody deliberately cooked the books or hid things and tried to keep it from people that this is happening, he went on to call them a traitor. what do you want to hear from general shinseki and what is your level of concern? >> well, my level of concern is very, very high and people have been cooking the books, they need to be held responsible and discharged from the v.a.

that is the bottom line. look, there are going to be v y very, very tough questions for director shinseki tomorrow, from both sides of the aisle, and fwheed to get -- and we need to get the facts and improve the health care for the veterans. that is the bottom line. the people who do things intentionally wrong to try to gain the system, there is no room for those folks in the v.a. >> well, it is startling yesterday, because you had the amazing ceremony when a soldier received the medal of honor for saving lives on the the battlefield, and that is what we all as americans take so much pride in is people who risk their lives for the country, and then for them to come back and to be ignored, to be pushed around by the system that was promise promised to them to help them, do you have a sense that at this point what needs to be done to fix the v.a. and can it be fixed? >> well, absolutely. i think that what we need to do is to find out what happened,

what really happen and to get the facts. but the bottom line is that as i go back with what the veterans said in the previous clip at the town hall meeting in phoenix. we make promises when the veterans sign up, and we have to fulfill those promises and 9 of 10 americans like the care from the v.a. and the bottom line that we have to achieve complete acceptance in 10 of 10, and we have complete issues revolving around mental health and not enough personnel in rural america and we have to work to make health kcare the best it cn be and if we have folks in the v.a. screwing up the system and not treating the veterans right, they have to go. we have to get the facts, chris, and make sure that we have the facts. if we don't have good information, you don't make good decisions, and we need to get the good information. >> ape i know that you want the facts, but is it fair to say that before secretary shinseki goes before the committee tomorrow, his job is on the

line? >> that is true regardless, because he has to answer the questions straight up, forthright and tell us what he knows. i think that the committee will act accordingly. >> and senator jon tester, a privilege to have you on the program, sir. we will be watching tomorrow. let me bring in the journalists, "huffington post" senior political reporter, and editor amanda terkel and our washington bureau chief lynn sweet. this is a administration that is reluctant to fire people, and that is true of the obama administration, but so far the president is supportive of him, and what will eventually happen? >> well, he is going to be cycled out, and just adds kathleen sebelius. she wanted to finish the task at hand and then resigned. with the many bipartisan calls for him to fix it is the first job and then at the same time, he has to find out what went wrong, but i would be sprurpris

if he sees himself in a point in the white house sees him as a distraction, chris, to getting this fixed than i could see him leaving. not now, but in due course. >> and in fact, amanda, senator tester asked the question earlier, you know, whether or not what congress has done. they have oversight over this. they knew of some of the come can plants of the backlogs, and so particularly the republicans who are calling for shinseki's e resignation and a little element of the glass housethrowing the stones? >> yes, it is a failure all around and it is something that is not going to last just with this president and this congress, but it is go g ing to worse and worse unless it is dealt with. president obama did not get us into the wars of iraq and afghanistan, but it is now something that he is going to be dealing with. president bush was a able to leave office before the full weight of what it takes to deal with the veterans, and will really entail and cost, and this is something that the congress and the president need to really

take a close look at so it won't get much worse. >> and there is another political story this morning analyzing the primary results last night. big headline, two tea party-backed candidates defeating their opponents in nebraska and west virginia. and this is coming on the heels of the establishment candidates winning in the north carolina senate primary. so, lynn, a tea party comeback? >> well, in certain spot, sure. whether or not this is going to be a national wave, and the way it was in 2010, i think that these local victories just are too soon to tell that, but it sure gives them a shot in the arm, and the tea party needed it, because the thenarrative ha been in recent weeks that the tea party is losing the influence. >> and conservative groups, money groups, amanda, they are doing some self-congratulatory laps, and citizens united and the senate conservative fund and madison project all gave money to candidates and ted cruz and sarah palin supported sass who has been widely reported that at

loggerheads with mitch mcconnell with his alignments, but says that he can support mitch mcconnell, so does this breathe new life into the challenger of mitch mcconnell from the right or still about the general election and alison lunder grimes? >> well, some tea party groups are coming to the fact that it looks like mitch mcconnell can beat matt bevan, but where they can claim some victory is that the republican party has shifted far to the right, and that has been in part due to the tea party movement, and the rallies that we have seen over the past few years which don't seem to be popping up as much in this election, but the tea party has helped to shift the narrative and helped to shift the dialogue and pushing the republican party to the right. they can say that they have sort of changed the conversation quite a bit and had some influence. >> amanda terkel and lynn sweet on the interesting morning in

politics. thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> and coming up, america's aging infrastructure, and this is more than pothole politics. with we know the slow response to fixing aging bridges and roads can have damaging effects, but a last-minute reprieve for tin mate scheduled to die last night, and we will talk to both his lawyer and the victim's family about what is next. today his doctor has him on a bayer aspirin regimen to help reduce the risk of another one. if you've had a heart attack be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. nowchoose one option fromith red lothe wood-fire grill,trios! one signature shrimp dish, and a pasta. all on one plate. three delicious choices. all for $15.99 for a limited time only! come sea food differently today! when folks think about wthey think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here creates something else as well: jobs all over america.

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the president and vice president are making new push today to fix the nation's crumbling roads, rails and bridge bridges. you will remember that just last year a tractor-trailer clipped a girder causing the bridge over the skagette bridge to collapse. there they were lucky, but six

years earlier 13 people were kill and 145 others hurt in this collapse of the aging i-35 bridge in minneapolis. and on the rail, 76 people were injured when a metro train crash ed in fairfield, connecticut, and slammed into and oncoming train, and the railroad said they dropped the ball on the maintenance and traffic inspeck shup. and now today, the president will be calling for funding for a mile from where i am in tarytown, new york. i want to bring in anthony fox, the transportation secretary. >> good morn, chris. >> and there a planned push and what will we hear from the president and the vice president today? >> well, we will be up in new york at the tappan zee bridge which is a great is success story for the administration. it is one of the biggest tifea loans that we have had

accelerating to have a project of 3 to 5 years permitting and trying to give it value no the taxpayers by getting the project done faster. but the message is that we need more investment in the infrastructure, and the president has a $3.2 billion proposal to substantially increase the allotment for transportation, and it is very important at this time to invest in the infrastructure. >> well, talk about the specifics, because tomorrow, the senate is go g ing to be markinp the transportation bill, and the stakes are high. there is a report from the american society of civil e engineers that 1 of 9 of the nation's bridges are rated as structurally deficient. how's this going to get done? >> well, if it were easy, it would have been done already, but we are clear ly at the inflection point in this country. back in 1956 when the interstate system was started, it was known then that the assets built back then would have a useful life of about 40 to 50 years, and we are there. and the rea al ti is that not only do we have so much deferred

maintenance as you pointed out, but we have new capacity needs and a country growing to 100 million more people by 2050 and it is going to be doubling the freight movements by that same time period. we are go g ing to have more congestion and potholes and more problems if we don't get ahead of this, and make a substantial reverse in course today and get something done. >> and well, after the weather that we have had, there is nobody out there who drives has any question about how bad the pothole situation is this spring, and the cbo, the congressional budget office, estimates $18 billion a year is needed just to maintain the current level funding for the items in the trust fund? how do you pay for it? >> with the pro growth business tax reform to allows us to generate not only $150 billion to substantially increase investment in infrastructure, but also going to do so without increasing the deficits or raising the rates. we think it is an option congress should consider, but it

is also something that we are open to other ideas that could emerge from congress. >> well, some of the ideas out there are raising the national gas tax from 10 to 15 cents per gallon and put tolls on the federal highways and is that something that we need to do? >> well, a mix of things. and obviously, we have a proposal that we believe would do a great service to this country over the next four years. but the reality is that there is a lot of the private capital on the sidelines that could find itself way in if there were more optionality at the state and the local levels -- >> what does that mean -- more optionality at the state and the local levels? >> well, one of the proposals that has gotten more attention than warranted is the fact that we think that giving flexibility to the states for example, to apply to the department of transportation to toll is at

least a option that the states and the governors ought to have. it is not one that funds the bill, but it would create an opportunity for more resources to come in and help us with the infrastructure deficit. >> secretary anthony foxx, it is good to have you on the program. thank you. >> thank you. and hillary clinton is about to speak live in washington, d.c. karl rove wondering how she is feeling, and we will talk about his 2016 medical advice. and then first, the emotional return to ground zero, taand the dedication is tomorro of the new museum, and we will take you inside and hear from the family members of the victims. you are feeling powerful with a 4-cylinder engine. [ male announcer ] open your eyes... to the 6-cylinder, 8-speed lexus gs. with more standard horsepower than any of its german competitors. this is a wake-up call. ♪

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among the darkest days of our nation's history. and getting this completed has been a challenge. we had an opportunity to tour the museum with one of the victims. >> i thought about my sister and how she is going to be a part of history, and at that moment i dedicated myself to that. i said that i'm going to be a part of whatever is go g ing to happen to make sure that my sister was remembered along with the that she was kill with. >> ron is here with me now, and ron, i was scrolling through some still photographs of the interior of the museum, and hayed to stop frankly, because i found it difficult. i can only imagine what is it like going in there. >> well, it is profound, moving, overwhelming and hard to describe in words, and first of all to get to the museum, it is underneath the memorial on the plaza, and you go deep underground, seven stories to the very foundations to the bedrock of ground zero. and so you are in a huge cavernous place and dark and

feels like you are in, and where the events actually happened. it is multimedia, and you will hear the sounds of the day, and the 9/11 calls and the interviews from the survivors, and you will see all kinds of images and pictures and testimonials and you will see huge artifacts like the fire engines destroy ed there, and te pieces of steel and little things like women's shoes that they kicked off as they were running out of the building and watches and in our case, this one exhibition with patricia riley was looking for the i.d. card that belonged to her siste on the wall. it was incredible moment when she found it. i urge you to go, and go with caution. of course, there is a lot of controversy about the price tag and the fact that there are so much that remains there and the remains of the repository, and the teaching of trying to get people to understand what happened that day and how the prevent it from happening again obviously. >> and one part of this, ron,

that struck you? i mean, we have covered for it such a long time, and those of us who lived in new york lived that day in a very personal way. but was there something that surprised you? shocked you? maybe just deeply affected you? >> well, i think that the scale of it is amazing that it took 13 years to make as a architectural thing, entity. you can see where the work went into it. tlit are literally tens of thousands of artifacts and items there to look at. everywhere you turn, there is something else. and what, and everywhere you turn, there is another story, and not just the items there, but behind every item is an individual story or the survivor store reer to victim story torres cor the rescuer story, and there were letters that were sent from kids around the world to the rescuers trying to encourage them that were inspiring. and pieces of steel that the iron workers had made that they gave away as momentos and token to the victim's families, and it

takes you right back to the day. if you were close to it, again, i urge you to go with caution. it is moving. it is inspiring. what else could it be given what happen happened that day? >> and a tribute to the lives that were lost there and the bravery of the people who saved many lives there as well. ron allen, thank you so much. and full coverage of the 9/11 memorial museum including the remarks from the president tomorrow right here on "jansing & company" at 10:00 eastern. if you read one thing this morning, it is a new report showing you that children as young as 7 are getting sick work working in tobacco fields doing the hard manual labor right here in the u.s. the "time" magazine story is the must read. you have to read this to figure out what is going on here, and go to facebook.com/jansingco to tell us what you think. in the nn in new private sector job creation... with 10 regional development strategies to fit your business needs. and now it's even better

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shocking reprieve. he would have been the first to face the death penalty since the botched execution in oklahoma two weeks ago. but a federal court ruled that the prosecutor in campbell's case withheld information from the defense test about his iq test and diagnosis of intellectual disability. the u.s. supreme court said that the mentally retarded should be categorically excluded from the execution, but for the family of the victim, it prolongs an emotional 23-year-long wait. i want to bring in alejandro's cousin israel santana. thank you for being with us. >> thank you. thank you for inviting me. >> as i understand it, you and the members of the family were in a middle of a meeting to prepare you for the execution when you were told that the stay had been granted and can you tell us what happened and who told you what they said?

>> yes, ma'am. it is jena sager, and she is the director, i believe, was in the middle of the orientation, basically going through the procedures that we would be going through for the execution and what would to better prepare us for the execution. when i saw her being called out of the room that we were in, i, as a defense attorney myself, just felt something was wrong. you don't call somebody out of a meeting prior to an execution where they are meeting with the family, so immediately, seeing her walk out of the room to find out what information she was going to find out, i basically knew that something was wrong. >> what was your reaction when you were told? >> when we were told there was absolute silence for at least a minute or two in the room. alexandra's mother and my own mother, we just began to saab is and cry, and feel a lot of pain.

>> and your cousin was four months away from her wedding day when she was abduct and murdered. do you believe that campbell will eventually be executed for her death? >> i believe he will, yes, ma'am. >> and as you know, because you are a lawyer, this ruling is about mental capacity. but this case and the one in oklahoma have refocused the death penalty opponents on whether lethal injections are cruel and unusual punishment, and what would you say to them? >> i would say cruel -- to me in no way cruel and unusual punishment. cruel and unusual punishment is what alejandro went through is to be kidnapped and raped by two individuals and told to run and then shot in the back. that is cruel and unusual punishment, and don't tell me about cruel and unusual when they are simply putting an injection into somebody's arm, and they die.

if robert campbell was given the choice, what would you prefer? a shot in the arm or the to be rain and shot, and what would he choose? >> can you even put into words what the last 23 years have been like for your family? >> it has been really rough. as i have previously stated, it is hard to walk by in the house, in our house, and in my aunt gladys' house, and see the pictures and have fond memories and not think of the last moments. it is really rough. and my aunt gladys has not been the same. >> and israel santana, this is a difficult day for you and difficult time for the family, and we thank you for taking the time to speak with us. >> thank you so much for seeking our views on this. thank you so much. >> and now i'd like to bring in jonathan ross, robert campbell's

attorney and the editor of the "tulsa world" who witnessed the botched execution in oklahoma. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> and jonathan, you feel obviously sympathy for this f family and it is unimaginable what they have gone through. and i should foce say that your has been focussed on the lethal injection reprieve which has been set aside and what is your reaction to this reprieve? >> well, the death penalty process is horrific on everyone, and especially on the family of the victim. for example, this is a case where halfway in the 23-year period that you talked about, halfway through, the supreme court decided that people who do not have the plen tall x capacity -- mental capacity of a certain level should not be executed which of course caused the delays that we have seen, and the ruling, itself, had to come down the way it did. the state had for over a decade

three tests that brought into question the mental xcapacity o mr. campbell and they not only explicitly hid them despite specific requests for them to be turned over, they gave us a result that didn't call into account his mental capacity without any backup for it, but said that it had been done and taken. so they hid the ball, and that is why the 5th circuit ruled the way they did. truly the 5th circuit had no choice if there is going to be due process, then that information has to be turned over. >> so what does happen now? what is the next step? >> well, there is sort of two parallel tracts. one is that the question of mental capacity of mr. campbell is going to be litigated. with that information, the court system is going to be getting a second chance at determining whether he does have the mental

x capacity to be put to death. we think that given the evidence that has now been produced that he is going to be found incapacitated and that he will not be put to death with regard to the issue as you pointed out that i was more involved in which is the source of the drulgs, obviously, there was no need for the supreme court yesterday to issue a stay because of what the 5th circuit did on the mental capacity, but the supreme court could still take up that issue more of a matter of regular course, and given that it is not a settled area of law, we hope they do, because it is going to affect more than mr. campbell, but hopefully, it is going to be opening up the process out of the secrecy that texas and oklahoma have opted for. and back to the way it was where lawyers for inmates who are to be executed are able to obtain the information that they can then determine whether a proper 8th amendment claim can be

brought or not. >> and you have covered this extensive extensively and this overriding question of secrecy of where the drug drugs used and where they came from and in the execution that you witnessed what happened in the minutes of when it is clear that the drugs were not working and the time that clayton locket actually died, how closely are demts guarding this information? >> well, it is guarded quite closely. after a couple of days of pressure, they did release a time line describing the events of that day, but there are important gaps in the time line and the three minutes of the time we observed the inmate writhing in pain and attempting to get up off of the gurney and mumbling is not mentioned in the time line. and the time line does not mention who inserted the i.v. the time line said that phlebotomist was in the room, but a phlebotomist is not a licensed person according to the investigation, and it would

violate their own protocol and when we asked them about that, the department of corrections said it is an error, and actually a paramedic and after the curtains were closed and the violent episode, we still don't know whether they tried to take any life saving measures after they halted the execution. we have requested numerous records from the state and have yet to receive them. >> these two cases that are in the two states of having the record of the most executions. since 1976, texas and oklahoma have the highest number throughout the country, and 515 for texas and 111 for oklahoma. combined, that is nearly half of the executions in the u.s. so bring this to perspective? >> well, oklahoma is number one per capita, because we are a sma smaller state, but obviously, this execution in oklahoma took 43 minutes for clayton lockett to die, and it is horrific by any standards and it has sparked

a nationwide conversation, and the president has comment and order ordered an overview, and the u.n. weighed in on it, and i have requested interview requests from all over the world, but here in oklahoma, it is different. this state is strongly in favor of the death penalty, a and lot of concern about the victim, and some people don't understand all of the focus on the pain felt by the inmate. >> and jonathan, do you sense a change here or is this a conversation that is going on in circles that are frankly already interested in the topic and the wider implications are not li likely to actually turn out to be what happened? >> well, chris, you are right. certainly, there are people who have strong feelings on the issues, and i don't know that they are going to change. i will say this however that even the conservatives in texas feel that the state hiding the ball with regard to some of the issues is problematic. and if you look at the two

decisions that came down yesterday, the 5th circuit was okay with the state saying that we have information about the drugs, but we are not going to give it to you, but they were not okay with the state having lied about having information regarding the mental xcapacity. there are a lot of peoplen in texas who want to go back to the way it was two months ago where there is an openness, and then, you know, people can decide whether or not the drugs that are used in the manner in which they are used rise to the level of 8th amendment violation. >> because as you know, the governor rick perry after what happened in oklahoma doubled down and said, he continues to support the capital punishment, and it is appropriate in the case cases. >> he did. the attorney general who has issued three opinions in the last four years saying that there should be openness certainly has had his staff continue to litigate against that. and so there are some politics involved here. but i do believe that one more botched execution like we saw in

oklahoma, and the supreme court will step in and allow sunlight into the process of executions in texas, oklahoma and nation woo nationwi nationwide. >> jonathan ross and ziva branstetter, thank you for being on the program once again. >> thank you. >> thank you. and john mccain says he wants to see the american troop s on the ground helping in the search for 276 kidnapped nigerian schoolgirls. the parents of 77 of the girls have identified them from the tapes put out by the terrorist groups holding them boko haram, and the same time the search continues, and yesterday the high altitude and long distance american drone global hawk completed the first surveillance over nigeria and the uk today offered additional surveillance help. in saudi arabia today, chuck hangle was unwillingly screened for mers. he was at a meeting where everybody's body temperature was me

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s. we are showing you a live picture from western turkey where rescuers are up against the clock searching for 100 w k workers trapped in a coal mine after a huge explosion and fire. a massive crowd of people at the scene where at least 238 miners have been killed. the crews have to work quickly, because of the rising carbon monoxide levels and the lack of oxygen. the explosion happened in a shift change so officials are not exactly sure of the total number of workers who might have been in the mine at the time. we will continue to watch this story closely for you. and now to politics, and there is a report this morning that bill and hillary clinton are furious over karl rove's incendiary suggestion that the former secretary of state may have suffered brain damage after a 2012 fall. politico cites two sources close to the clintons. we will see if she has more to say. she is addressing the jewish committee global forum in d.c. so far. it has been about foreign policy and her book so far, but

meantime, the 2016 potential challenger jeb bush is making headlines after another possible gop contender weighed in. >> i take jeb at the word which is that he has not made a decision about what he wants to do, and that it is intensely personal decision and i agree with that, and it is a decision that will have a huge impact on the family, and he wants to make sure that they are on board if he does it, and i agree with that and he has to determine whether he has the fire in the belly to do this. >> for all things 2016, bring in political an analyst from grio.com christina maxwell and chris wilson, a gop pollster. before we begin, let's listen to karl rove trying to clear things up in fox. >> i did not say brain damage, but a serious health episode, and the point is that hillary clinton wants to run for president, but she would not be human if this did not enter into a consideration. and my other point is that it is an issue in the 2016 race whether she likes it or not.

>> and certainly, the health questions, are they fair game? >> well, karl rove knows what he is doing, and this is textbook karl rove. he has been divorced from reality for a while, and we witnessed it on the 2012 election night when he had the implosion on live television, and he knows exactly what to do, as bringing up her health as an issue. it is not going the work, because the republican party has a problem. first they said that she was faking the entire health issue, because she didn't want to testify about benghazi, and now it is so serious that she might have brain damage -- pick a side. >> and now, chris, there is a paper in politico that does say that if karl rove strikes a chord about health and age, emission accomplished, and what is your old director up to? >> well, nobody is really crack ing the popularity, and so now

that she is moving into the role as a candidate and will be for the next three years, you will see more issues like this coming up, and her health is going to be addressed in an issue the same way for bob dole and john mccain in 2008, and as you reach a certain age, the american people have a right the know as they did with mccain and dole and going back to reagan in 1980 what condition you are in. we know she had to take a leave of absence of secretary of state after the fall, and we don't know how serious it is, and we have to take rove at the word if he says that she did not have brain damage, it is strange that we keep addressing it as if he did say or somehow that was impli implied. >> you are laughing, zerlina. >> well, it is disingenious, because he was trying to float the idea that she had some mental incapacity, and he said that she was in the hospital for 30 days, but the reality is in the hospital for three days.

he is float ing ting the idea tn a way in which he can still have plausible deniability and say i did not say that. and we know what he said there. >> and chris krchristie says th he said it would be hard to run against jeb bush, because he likes him, and it is difficult to run against somebody that you like, and would jeb bush have the fire in the belly and the most formidable opponent? >> well, formidable, but he is stacked up against rand paul and marco rubio and other far right republicans who want to run for the nomination. but i don't believe that the american people will buy the idea that jeb bush is going save us from the damaged economy of his brother, and ride in with the white horse to fix the problems that his own family created. and so the republican establishment does not want him because christy has imploded, but the base won't go with him. >> and now chris, you are laughing. >> i love that, how many years after bush has left the white

house that you are still going to try to blame the problems in this country -- >> because he created them. >> and like the obamacare? >> and jeb bush, and money talks and will the republican donors and the establishment donors wanting jeb bush to make a run, and we saw him hobnobbing with the shakers here monday in new york, and, chris, is the real outstanding issue fire in the belly or it is whether or not his family has the stomach for it? because it does not look like money is the problem. >> right. i think they it is both. chris, you called it exactly right. one, he has to make the decision internal internally about whether or not he wants to do it, and secondly, he has to go to the family to go on board and nothing worse running for office and working with families who are not on board such as a spouse or parents, and that is obvious over the years, that you can see it is difficult to get up to campaign and difficult to be around your family and seek advice so it is a two-step

process that you laid out perfect perfectly. first, decide internally and secondly, go to family and say, i want to do this, what do you think? if both of the two boxes are checked, then, jump in and he would be a formidable candidate. >> thank you, both. in case you missed it the tweet of the day comes from nasa soyuz landed at 9:00 a.m. eastern in kazakh ststan and th are all safe and land ed according to gravity. cool pictures. nowchoose one option fromith red lothe wood-fire grill,trios! one signature shrimp dish, and a pasta. all on one plate. three delicious choices. all for $15.99 for a limited time only! come sea food differently today!

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and conyers has been in the house for nearly 50 years. >> on a much wider and grosser note, basically, and everybody is talking about this. congressm congressman joe garcia caught picking the wax of his ear and then eating it. he played off of it on twitter saying he was not eating the wax, but then biting a hangnail and he said, wow, i'm trending almost as much as #jz, and #paparazzi. i am sorry about that. that is going to wrap up this hour of jansing & company. i'm chris jansing, and "newsnation" with tamron hall is going to come can back up tomorrow. yes! three a's! he brings his a-game! the ready for you alert, only at laquinta.com! predibut, manufacturings a prettin the united states do. means advanced technology. we learned that technology allows us to be craft oriented.

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organizations where she is discussing the challenges of the world. and she is also going to be talking about the karl rove personal attack against clinton and he is doubling down on the suggestion s th suggestions that the former secretary oif state better be prepared for serious scrutiny e regarding her health should she decide to come president 2016 and then he claims he was misquoted and this all started with the "new york post" headline where rove openly questioned if clinton had brain damage from the fall in her home and resulting blood clot that landed her in the hospital for a few days. >> my point is that hillary clinton wants to run for president, but she would not be human if this did not enter into as a consideration. and my other point is that this is an issue in the 2016 race whether she likes it or not. she is going to be 69 by the time of the 2016 election, and she is going to be