the president is live in new york and so are we. >> msnbc is your place for politics. we're scratching our heads today about this so-called republican establishment. i'm crystal ball and blurred lines is not just a pop hit. it's increasingly what we're seeing between republicans and the tea party. we'll dig deeper. >> i see what you did there. in the spin, it's magic's moment to respond to the scandal he never wanted to be involved in. just like when he was in the nba, magic last night drove to the hole and dip at this dooed past sterling. >> outside of control. the summer movies, the hits, the misses an the sleepers. hero in a half shell. turtle power. a new york bridge over the hudson river, street closures and traffic delays, we're not

talking about chris christie. this time it's president obama an the tappan zee bridge minus the scandal. the president is right there now driving a week long push for roads an bridges. he put the rebuild on the fast track two years ago. the existing bridge is in such disrepair, one of the top aide was called the hold your breath bridge. it has a $4 billion price tag, more than a quarter comes from a federal loan. the president wants congress to pass a $302 billion transportation plan because the current fund is running out. anthony fox says a quarter of u.s. bridges need significant help and 2/3 of roads are inadequate. it's also about jobs. 700,000 according to the wiet house. all that congestion is causing more problems than other. $120 billion in gas and lost time and $27 billion in additional shipping costs for businesses. 6 in 10 americans feel roads and bridges are up -- will they use

it to ref their midterm engine. henrich is here with more. >> you have sarah palin's-style knowledge about the tappan zee because you can see it from your house. the current toll on that bridge is $3 to $5. some are saying the toll may have to go as high as $14 because the bridge is owe expensive. is sticker shock like that going to be something that builds political support for a transportation plan like the president is pushing? >> well, this has been one of the biggest infrastructure projects in the country. that's what the president is doing today. he's pushing that. there are a lot of local problems involved here. some of which are political and actually of national interest. cuomo is looking to shore up his left which is collapsing almost as fast as the tappan zee bridge. he needs to build a nice new bridge to the left and he's having trouble doing that. have cuomo -- i mean having

obama come and give him a pat on the head is a political deed that cuomo has got right now. >> i'm glad that the president is there focusing on the need, not just to rebuild the tappan zee bridge but to rebuild infrastructure across this country that's failing, not just bridges and roads. but airports, essentially the whole system is in need of an upgrade and revamp. yet, it's like a fool's errand. there's no political consensus even though the overwhelming majority of the americans see this need. it's good for business, the business community is behind it. it would create jobs. it would help position america to be an economic power continuing into the 21st sent rip and yet, there's little political hope that there will be real movement in terms of infrastructure jechlt. how are we going to get out of this? at some point we have to do something. well, the problem you describe is not just limited to

infrastructure. >> certainly. >> it's limited to virtually every problem on the national agenda where this -- in so many of them, there's a national consens consensus. about a minimum wage, about revamping the tax system to make it easier on regular people. all these things have public support, the system is unable to translate that into action. it's not the fault really of anybody. it's not obama's fault or the democrats or the congress' fault. it's the setup. the setup is just -- it's just completely rigged against action. and if you want something to happen, you got to have action. >> yeah. >> speaking of infrastructure, let's bridge over to chris christie who just this week on his monthly radio show opened up about some of his feelings when comes to thinking about running for 2016. he talked about running against someone that he respects and someone that considers a good friend. let's take a listen.

>> so it would be stressful. you wouldn't -- you like to run against people that you don't like. not run against people that you do like and respect. so of course it would be stressful if you have a relationship. in the end, everybody is going to make their own decisions, myself included on that, on what they think is best for them and what they think is best for our party and what we think is best for the country. >> so here he was talking about potentially running against jeb bush. they're both being talked about and considering a run. it seems like what he was really trying to say is yes, it's tough to run against someone that you're friends with and respect. they will be in the same lane if they both decide to run. that would make it a lot more challenging to make it through the primaries. >> he might as well have been talking about cuomo if he's going to run, maybe not this time but next time. but he and cuomo are similar characters. they play a similar role.

cuomo plays a similar role as a democrat as christie does as a republican. tough guy, plain spoken, reaches across the aisle when he has to and who comes down hard on his opponents. so there is a similarity there. >> you guys talk about candidates who aren't in the race yet. one who is all but in the race now is hillary clinton, right? with karl rove's attacks on her, makes it seem like the campaign is already in motion. it's a very disgusting, underhanded attack and easily refuted. let's call on the explainer in chief for that. >> first, she said she faked her concussion and now they say she's auditioning for a part on the walking dead. look, she works out every week, she is strong, she's doing great. as far as i can tell, she's in better shape than i am. she certainly seems to have more

stamina now. there's nothing to it. >> but rove's attack was far from dumb, right? in the conservative circles, you don't need facts to make these conspiracies survive. so you see here how hillary would have to sort of fight against ghosts, right? conversations about why won't her doctors come out and what is she hiding? no matter how many medical records are put out, what is she really hiding? where are her real medical records? >> the long form ones. >> jon stewart referred to it as brain gaz i. the berther attacks. in an era of two americas, it becomes like a rorschach. because this is not an era of sort of persuasion, it's an era of motivation and turnout. if you're predisposed to dislike hillary, this is more of a reason to do that. if you like her, mover a reason do that. >> if you're a senior citizen, it's more of a reason to support

her. >> true. >> they're going to have to deal with this question, actually. she's going to be 69 years old when she takes office if she runs and wins. her health is going to be a legitimate issue as it probably should. maybe with mccain too. >> isn't that a challenge that republicans, they're going to -- chuck todd alluded to this, this morning. the republicans will have to throw their own people under the bus, whether bob dole or reagan or mccain who are all older than hillary clinton if she decides to run. >> talking about their own people. the senior citizen group is a core part of their constituency. that's the real problem. >> that certainly is a problem. but there is a legitimate thing here that hillary is going to have to deal with. >> she will have to release her records, though. and people can decide at that time, is that something that bothers me or not. >> she might as well do it sooner than later.

it's a little bit like the birth certificate craziness. it was beneath contempt. >> right. >> obama waited a long time before picking up the phone and saying okay, give them the damn certificate. that's part of the reason. sooner rather than later is a good idea in these situations. >> timed in a way to embarrass donald trump. >> we always love that. so much of our politics is these nonsense issues. karl rove saying that maybe hillary has brain damage. with the president coming here today to talk about this infrastructure issue, it seems like it's an issue like the farm bill, you can have stale mates over it. you have to do something, a highway bill has to get passed. last time around, they couldn't do a -- they did a two-year bill. they have to do something. is this one of the few areas we're going to see something out of this? what might actually happen for

this push? >> what might happen is that the issue becomes -- gets big. the people understand that we have to do something about infrastructure. of course, they already understand that. >> right. >> for the most part. it's a question of getting people motivated to overcome what's in the system. it takes more than a majority. it takes a motivated public all across the board to get something done and this is one of those things that the public can get motivated about. >> thanks so much. we'll bring you the president's live remarks as soon as they happen. up next, what magic johnson says he's doing for donald sterling. here's what we'll be doing. spinning. as the cycle wears on for wednesday, may 14th. (mother vo) when i was pregnant...

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do you know what i do? i spend millions on giving away and helping minorities. does he do that? some of the african-american -- maybe i'll get in trouble again. they don't want to help anybody. what has magic johnson really done? >> it's disturbing. it's sad. he didn't do his homework. what we try to do is band together to see how we can better our community. it's a shame he doesn't know what he's talking about. he didn't educate himself before he actually came on and talked to you. >> nba great magic johnson was so appalled by donald sterling's comments that at times last night it seemed he actually felt bad for this disgraced clippers owner. even telling anderson cooper he's going to pray for him. from comments on race to his

unprovoked attacks on one of pro sports most beloved players, with each day that passes, donald sterling digs himself into a deeper and deeper hole. then there's this doozy about ending the stigma over hiv. >> he's got aids. did he do any business -- i like -- did he help anybody in south l.a.? >> it's hiv i think. not full-blown aids. >> unbelievable. josh farrow has more to say about it. we had to spin on it as well. the thing i go back to and something i have said before. he could have picked on anyone in the nba community and he chooses magic johnson. someone who is arguably the most well-respected in the nba community and even the world. i think that speaks to how crazy he is and speaks to what of a racist this guy is. i can't imagine how magic is not actually hurt by some of his comments. when he says he should be ashamed of being hiv positive and hasn't helped out the minority community. i mean magic is someone, l.a. is

his town. this is a guy fighting for, what, 20 years to change the stigma around hiv and i think magic coming out and speaking, saying i'm still out here and you can't hurt someone like me. at the same time, saying you really need some help. i think he's speaking for everyone when he says that. josh, i cannot fathom who is the p.r. team he's surrounded himself with. are they telling him, just keep speak, that's going to make the situation better. if i were them, i would book him a one-way ticket to a place with access to nothing. >> i don't think he has a pr team. if he does, i feel sorry for him. he sounds drunk to me in that interview. i don't know if he is. it's all very weird. but i think, i have a different read on magic's reaction to that. it was mostly that he pities donald sterling. i think he's displeased about the comments made about him, he said he's angry in the interview. it's out of left field and so weird.

if you're going to come up with a talking point about why you don't like magic johnson, magic johnson doesn't do enough for the black community is a weird angle to take. magic is wondering why he's in the middle of this. it's not about him. this is between you and your girlfriend who is part of you. >> i don't want to be part of this three-way situation. >> magic feels like he's put in an odd place. >> i'm really glad magic gave this interview. i don't think anything speaks more powerfully than the contrast between magic, who has been unfairly attacked in this situation, has never done anything to don sterling and yet, he's the one with all the grace in the world saying he's going to pray for don sterling. saying if he saw him tomorrow, he would say hello, right? versus don sterling who is attacking magic johnson in the most egregious, heinous way as you can possibly imagine, this icon, this person who has done so much for destigmatizing hiv.

it's to me, that contrast tells you everything you need to know about these two men. >> magic is obviously, as you've said a collateral part of all this. we understand racism may be aimed at specific individual but you're actually talking about the entire group. you're not talking about that one individual you're speaking to or speaking about or acting toward. but one thing within this debate that has made me somewhat uncomfortable is this whole thing of the shock of like how could this be said about magic. he's the nicest person in the world, always smiling and happy, never caused a problem. all that is true, magic is an awesome, amazing individual who we should be looking up to. but it posits this thing like he's the good negro we should be more like. if you put in another name, maybe if we were talking about matt kemp or matt barnes or somebody else, then we'd understand a little bit better. this sort of framing just

bothers me deeply. joseph, the founding director of the center for the study of race and democracy spoke about this. he said the genius of the civil rights movement heyday and made that era heroic, african-americans defied the odds by refusing to believe in the good negro versus bad negro dichotomy. i reject that whole architecture. he's speaking about all of us and i don't want to hold up magic and say you can't say that about magic but you can say that about somebody else. >> that's a great point. i think what it shows is that don sterling is not even at the level of racism of oh, i have a black friend. he doesn't even have the black friend. >> right. >> that's part of what people are reacting to. >> i'm speaking to how crazy he is. even his wife said she did not recognize him in that interview. let's hope it ends sometime soon. it's ridiculous. straight ahead, we're waiting on the president's live remarks in front of the tappan zee bridge here in new york.

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democrats may be able to run on this november. as for republicans, another primary night brought more confusion about the party's identity. tea party candidate ben sasse crushed his gop opponents for the open nebraska senate seat. at first, it's a relief after the establishment victories in north carolina and georgia. that means accepting the premise of the term establishment. the establishment republicans were often tea party candidates just a few years ago. their views haven't changed. the only thing that's really changed is that the mainstream is starting to fund their campaigns. that's a fact not lost on their opponents come the general election. democratic strategist is here to talk with us about that. erica, you've highlighted a couple of examples, like james lankford running in oklahoma and jack kingston in georgia. why did they go from tea party in 2010 to establishment now? >> the main thing about the tea party is they've done a really good job of being anti-government.

but not done a good job of outlining what a tea party government would look like. because of that, all the candidates end up becoming elected officials or are in congress, anything they do that's governing, makes them suspect and part of the establishment. let's talk about the republican party as it exists today. brian sullivan was on morning joe yesterday and gave a passionate rant about having grown up in a conservative household, yet he cannot recognize the party today. fa take a listen. >> can we stop saying the republican party. as somebody that grew up in a conservative household, i don't recognize the republican party. i don't like what i see. i don't like the far right. i don't like the extremism. they've pushed me away. as somebody who is pretty much not religious, right, pro same sex marriage, pro legalization of marijuana for the most part, okay? what party is this? what party am i supposed to be

in? when i'm a fiscal conservative who believes that small government can often be better. there are times for larger government. we keep saying the republican party. i love you guys and i love this show and i come on all the time. but i don't know who the republican party is anymore. i don't know if the republican party knows -- it's not a party unfortunately republicans that i can get on board with because i don't like the small-minded attitude. a lot of the far right wing stuff that comes out. i should go home now. >> no surprise here. that clip got a lot of play. obviously, he's physically angry. i think he speaks the same language the way that many republicans feel today about the party. i'm often asked why are you a republican today? i usually respond with, you know, i think i'm a version of the republican party. i think i represent sort of this next chapter, this next group of people coming up in the republican party that have evolved on many of the social issues, whether immigration

reform or equality or legalizing marijuana. and it's my sense that ultimately the way the party is now, that's not sustainable. ultimately in order to win a national election, there are going to have to evolve, right? maybe it takes a few years until the next generation ultimately takes control. i don't know. >> i think it is going to take a while. it's an uphill battle. you look at who won the primary and heralded as an establishment candidate in north carolina. why was she considered establishment, because she supported some sort of immigration reform. didn't say which, but some sort. they backed her. if you peel back the layers, this is a a woman in her 2010 election to congress when she first ran, shouldn't cover people with preexisting conditions and maternity care. that's a pretty extreme position. she took the tea party express bus tour around the country. was a sarah palin acolyte. i don't know if you remember

this, she ran as the park 51 islamic center in manhattan, near ground zero, calling it a victory mosque. we went on tv with anderson cooper and she asked him if he was anti-christian. >> wow. >> this is the woman being considered establishment. i'll take jack kingston in georgia. st a creationist. certainly isn't liberal. at this point, his other -- the big pool of gop primary opponents, i mean, he's not phil beginning gri who defended the legitimate rape comment. not paul brown who said it's a scourge from the pits of hell. he's not the one that recommended defunding planned parenthood and a rift within the susan g. komen foundation. that makes him establishment because he's not that right wing? he's still incredibly right wing. the tea party backed him and signed a letter in 2010 as their person they wanted to chair the

appropriations committee. abby, when you look at what you have to overcome in this battle that's going on and it's moving establishment people further and further right. there's going to have to be an surgery ens of youth that comes in. i think some people are really kind of honing in it. rand paul is seeing a lot of this. seeing some of his statements alluding to this. but something has to move forward. younger republicans have to get involved and push that party back. >> that may win local races but not a national. >> it doesn't. you talk about rand paul. he's sort of living out some of that back and forth that you guys are tack talking about. we thought that he had come to his senses talking about the issue of vote suppression and then he walked it back. a surrogate said at no time did come out against voter i.d. laws. all right. thank you, senator. here we see not only the power and import of this issue on the right, but also the sort of

dance that we see quite often on the right where folks come out, paul ryan has done this, several others. marco rubio. folks come out and say something sane in public and walk it back in what to the left feels like a private and other sources, other place. what do you think about that dance we see these folks do a lot of that time? >> it's an entire lack of leadership. it used to be that people stood up and said what they thought and had to explain it to constituents. you agree to disagree sometimes. these guys are so i guess on pins and needles because they get hit so far -- so much from the right and from the left. they don't really know where to stand. they aren't experienced, i you think, enough as legislators to have confidence in themselves. they're not looking for higher office. marco rubio, this is a guy representing florida, right? miami is one of the cities that has the most to lose in climate

change situation and he's not really sure where he stands? i mean, he should know exactly where he stands. >> right. >> representing the people of florida and he should be able to explain that to the people of florida and not be worrying about kind of the election ahead of him or the next race. >> of course, he came out as a climate science denier, then sort of backed it up and said we can't do anything about it, though. unbelievable that's become a mainstream view in the roorp republican. as abby can attest to -- >> you're not going to get too far. a climate denier. maybe hunts man, i don't know. i've heard of that guy before. >> part of the problem here is that republicans still look to 2010, right, and the tea party wave as this like great victory for them and yes, they have the setback in 2012. but they're on track to do okay in 2014. what we've seen is with two different electorates, one that shows up for the mid terms and a

different one for the national. republicans can comfort themselves by doing okay in a midterm election. >> redistricting is a big part of that. i mentioned renee al murs owe, the one who doesn't believe maternity care should be covered. she won in a nailbiter. only a couple hundred votes. then they redistricted her. she's pretty much safe. clay aiken is running against her now. she doesn't have the same kind of competitive district. she can get away with a lot of that stuff. a lot of the confidence, particularly with the house members is they're set for the rest of the decade, the next ten years. the senate, when you've got to go outside of your safe district and talk to other counties, it's a little tougher. it certainly gets almost impossible with the policies they have right now when you look nationally. >> erica ka newt i, thank you. >> up next, you probably know your iq, maybe your social intelligence, ba what about your gender intelligence.

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40 years ago accounted for 38% of the u.s. workforce today. today almost a 50/50 split. great, right? that doesn't mean the glass ceiling has been shattered. if anything, it's risen higher. most of the female workforce today are in entry level or middle management jobs. worldwide, women account for one out of every tennessee -- ceo or board level positions. the answer is treating men and women equally or having women act more like machine. but our next guest says success actually lies in acknowledging our differences. keith marchin coached organizations on this for decades and co-author of gender intelligence. they say that the key is creating conditions where women can still be women and succeed. thank you so much for joining us, pete.

>> thank you. >> i think people start to get uncomfortable when you talk about gender differences. because when we've talked about gender differences in the past, there's been a judgment associated with it. men are strong and women are weak. it's always the male trait that is the better trait and the female trait that is inferior. how do we talk about gender differences without having that judgment? >> well, part of it is just understanding the differences are natural. very rarely do they fall into good or bad, right or wrong, strong or weak. although that's the way in which a long, long time ago was discussed. the feminist movement came -- >> i would say it's still viewed that way. women have tried to move and have successfully moved into male traditionally male positions. >> yes. >> men haven't wanted to go into the traditionally female positions. so there still is this sense that the male way is the ideal way. >> especially in business. especially in business. that belief is paramount.

so much of it is organizations are designed after the male mold. as long as organizations fit this mold of hierarchy and decision-making based on step by step by step processes. as long as that continues, then women, in order to make it into that organization, will be viewed by men as having to fit that mold. >> you want to get to organizations being gender intelligent. what does that mean? >> gender intelligence is the awareness, the understanding that men and women are naturally different. that there are differences that are biologically wired, not in terms of genitalia but in terms of brain functioning. there are specific difference that is we've discovered over the past 25 years that have emerged that we kind of understood for a long, long time. but because of a lot of reasons haven't been able to voice it. it's the understanding that these differences naturally occur in life and it's the ability to utilize those differences to our collective benefit. >> very interesting stuff.

thanks for your time today. president obama is pushing our roads and bridges at one of the most heavily traveled in america, new york's tappan zee. let's listen in. >> the alternative is to do nothing and watch businesses go to places that have outstanding infrastructure. behind me is the old tappan zee bridge, longest bridge in new york and one of the busiest bridges around. as any commuter will tell you, it is crowded. it carries a lot more traffic than when it was built back in 1955. at times you can see the river through the cracks in the pavement. i'm not an engineer, but i figure that's not good. but right now, thanks to the efforts of governor cuomo, thanks to your outstanding congressional delegation led by nina low i and including elliott engel and shawn patrick maloney and jerry mad letter, all of

whom are here today. stand up, congressional delegation. we're proud of you. [ applause ] >> thanks to their outstanding efforts, workers are building a replacement. the first new bridge in new york in 50 years. it's called the new new york bridge, which is fine as a name. for your next bridge, should come up with something a little more fresh. [ laughter ] here's the thing. this never happens. you are building this bridge ahead of schedule. three years ago i took action on my own to fast track the permitting process for major projects like this one. normally it would have taken

three to five years to permit this bridge. we did it in a year and a half. in a year and a half. [ applause ] that meant we were creating thousands of jobs faster while doing right by workers and tending to the environment. and vice presidents in cleveland today at another project we fast tracked, a rapid transit station that will make life easier for a lot of residents there. so today we're releasing a new plan to apply the same strategy to other major projects all across america. we're announcing 11 more projects to accelerate, to get moving faster, to pensacola bay bridge to light rail projects north and south of seattle. we're cutting bureaucratic red tape that stalls good projects from breaking ground. we're launching a new national permitting center to implement

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who wants to have some fun? spring break. >> already begun. >> star lord, man. legendary outlaw. forget it. >> summer is the time when hollywood unleashes blockbusters, superheroes. get ready for jonham, mark wahlberg and melissa mccarthy and movies about james brown and jimi hendrix. for advise on what you should and should not see, matt singer is here. the film i'm most excited about comes out in august.

it's called -- scarlett johansson. let's look at a little bit of that. >> most human beings only use 10% of their brain's capacity. >> imagine if we could access 100%. interesting things begin to happen. >> yes. >> professor norman, my name is lucy. i read all your research on the human brain. it's a little rude mentalimenta you're on the right track. >> is he on the right track? >> i hope so. where someone says people only use 10% of their brains, but this person is going to learn how to use 100%. scarlett johansson -- >> that was one of the weirdest movies of the year. >> this will be more mainstream. >> sensible. >> the avengers, she's the one who doesn't have the super powers which is unfair, frankly. here she gets to -- gets to do

crazy stuff with her mind and as you said, luke va'a san, he turns out fun action thrillers. i'm looking forward to that one too. >> i think her beauty is a super power. >> what are other summer hits that you think will be good this summer? >> one of them is opening this friday. looking forward to godzilla. the new version of it. the last american godzilla, that wasn't so great. that was kind of horrible. but i think they might have righted the ship with this one. it looks really interesting. it harkens back to the 1954 japanese godzilla. it was more about a metaphor for nuclear war and was actually a very dark, very disturbing film. you're looking at the footage here. the clips. it looks like a pretty intense movie that's not like joking, matthew broderick chasing dinosaur eggs. it looks more serious with bryan cranston and a really good cast. that's what i'm looking forward

to. it comes out friday. >> can't beat briyan cranston. i'm looking forward to take angelina jolie. let's talk about the misses. i'm a fan of teenage mutant ninja turtles. i have seen clips of the new version. not so thrilled. take a look. >> does anybody have an idea of who or what this is? >> i don't know. i bet he never has to ask for a can opener. >> just a mask, see, don't freak out. right? >> i wanted to compare the two. >> i like that, the side by side. >> there's humor in boast of them. am i the only one that's not feeling that? >> i don't know. maybe some kids will get into it. >> that haven't seen the original one. >> that's true. it's a good point. for me, with the turtles, there was a lot of talk before the

movie was made, it's produced by michael bay and there was a lot of controversy amongst nerds, frankly. it was really important, guys. he wanted to change the turtles from outer space. my goodness. there was argument off the bat, they were unfaithful with the beloved ninja turtles. they look a little different. the technology improved a bit. the director is the guy who made "wrath of the titans." i wouldn't get my hopes up. >> middle-aged. >> doesn't have the same ring. >> are there any under the radar movies that might be surprising hit this is summer? >> absolutely. hollywood movies this time of year are the big ones. there are movies playing that are worth checking out. one is "boyhood."

the before sunset and all those films. this is an incredible story. he had been making this movie for 12 years. he's gotten together with actors and a little boy who grew up in front of the camera. every year in this kids life for 12 years. it's about his childhood. really, there's very little like it, ever, in the history of film. it should be interesting. >> there's a james brown biopick coming out. good or bad? >> he was great in 42. looks like he's got to moves down in the trailer. i'm hopeful. >> i'm hopeful, too. >> i'm sure you will give a great rant about it, one or the other. >> thank you very much. up next, do you believe in magic? josh does.

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as you probably saw, los angeles clippers owner, don sterling explained monday his problem with magic johnson isn't that he's black, he doesn't do enough for the black community and oh, he's hiv positive. >> ha has he done, can you tell me? big magic johnson, what has he done? >> he's a business person. >> he's got aids. does he help anybody in south l.a.? >> he's got hiv. >> what kind of guy goes to every city and has sex with every girl. is that someone we want to respect and tell our kids about? i think he should be ashamed of

himself. i think he should go into the background. what does he do for the black people? doesn't do anything. >> sterling, of course, looks like a daughtering old koot in that video. he's far from alone on his views on hiv. in a 2012 kaiser poll, 44 pbt of adults wouldn't be comfortable eating food prepared by someone with hiv. 34% think you can get hiv from a drinking glass, toilet seat or swimming pool. people with those misconceptions are likely to say they are uncomfortable. the public is more comfortable since he announced his diagnosis 22 years ago. he's devoted huge personal and financial contributions. he faced players who thought

they might catch it from playing with him. the stigma around hiv remains a real problem today, not just because it hurts people's feelings. 36% of people with hiv says a medical provider discriminated against them. according to the university of california, san francisco, people with hiv stigma are less likely to go to the doctor and take their medicine. people who fear telling family, don't go to support networks. 25% of americans with hiv are on the kind of highly effective antiviral treatment that's kept magic johnson alive. we have gotten good at testing people. 82% know they are positive. once they are tested they fall away from care. negative attitudes about hiv are literally killing people. if there's a silver lining, it's that don sterling is a figure.

magic johnson showed more pity than anger. >> it's sad. when i saw the interview, it's sad. i'm going to pray for this young man. >> hopefully the public will take the ridiculousness as hi cues for hiv are, too. now with alex wag near starts now. consistency is hob gobbling of little minds. ♪ >> everyone is talking about dr. karl rove's diagnosis. >> i didn't say she has brain damage. >> doubling down. >> this will be an issue in the 2016 race. >> it's about whether karl rove

suffers brain damage. >> she fakes her concussion. >> she didn't want to testify for benghazi. >> now she's auditioning for the grateful dead. >> is she still not okay? >> i'm waiting for her to admit it. >> he's been divorced from reality for awhile. >> do you believe ohio is -- >> no, i don't. >> we are quite comfortable with it. >> consistency is the hot goblin of little minds. the big dog is back, battling the hob goblin of little minds. a hob gobbling with little questions about whether hillary clinton might be brain damaged. it was met with a