fail. that's the thing that we have to remember. >> that's a failure. >> we have failed. >> alexander pelosi and dorian warren, thank you for joining me on this important day. that is all for "now." see you back here monday at 4:00. "the ed show" is up next. good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show" live from detroit lakes, minnesota. i'm ready to go! let's get to work. ♪ 50,000 gallons of crude gush from a broken aboveground section of an oil line. >> crews on the scene of an ail spill near los angeles. >> keystone would carry 800,000 barrels of dangerous oil every day. >> this is very dirty oil. >> oil shooting 30 feet into the air. >> affected several businesses in the area. >> two people transported to the local hospital. >> the cleanest barrel of oil

produced in north america. >> breathing in fumes from the big oil spill. >> the cleanest oil. >> crude oil spilled on to the streets. >> complex. you think the keystone pipeline is complex? >> dangerous ail every day. >> the cleanest barrel of oil. >> the fire department says the oil is knee-high in some spots. >> one thing we know about oil pipelines, they corrode, they leak, they burst. >> complex? >> good to have you with us tonight. thanks for watching. i'm going to qualify the story off the top. i'm going to ask you as viewer with this story and this information we are coming to you with tonight, just use your imagination just a little bit. be fair to the story and do the what if for a moment. be the critical thinker about what we are really doing in this country and how big oil is running over a lot of folks. you see, big oil means big money in america. oil companies rake in massive

profits and will do anything to keep it that way. one thing is clear with big oil. they have no problem putting profit over people. here is what unfolded on thursday. an oil pipeline valve ruptured in the atwater village of los angeles. yeah, right there. the leak sent oil spewing 40 feet into the air. it's estimated 10,000 to 20,000 light crude leaked from the pipeline into the streets of los angeles. the smell of fumes were reported up to several miles away. two people sent to the hospital for inhaling dangerous fumes. on thursday, captain jaime moore, of the los angeles fire department described the situation on knbc. >> crews were quick in getting the pipeline shut down. even though we had the pipeline shut down, we had 1,000 pounds of pressure behind it. we had 45 minutes of oil seeping out. >> that's why we saw the geyser

we were seeing? >> that's why we saw that. the fire company on scene were able to contact a local cement company and build a two and a half foot deep dike around the facility and create a lagoon, basically, of the oil keeping it from going to the l.a. river and the watershed. >> so, use your imagination. say we are out in the middle of the country with multiple pressure beyond that pipeline and nobody is around the pipeline or the leak. now you get it? the response in los angeles by the fire department was fantastic. it's a good thing the fire department was quick to act. the l.a. river is roughly a half mile away from the scene. as of now, there are no reports of oil into the water supply. first responders were on the scene. some environment lists are worried the oil may leak into the water. this pipeline is owned by plains

all america pipeline out of texas. they released a statement saying the smell of oil may cause a gn naugs feeling. the crude leaked from their line 2000 pipeline. this is 130 mile pipeline running from bakersfield, california to los angeles, california. it carries, roughly, 130,000 barrels of oil a day. now, think about this pipeline compared to the keystone xl pipeline. 130 miles versus 1200 miles. 130,000 barrels a day versus 830,000 barrels a day. quite the difference. kind of out in the middle of nowhere, if this were to ever happen over that. light crude versus heavy tar sands crude. oh, there's a big difference.

the keystone pipeline runs over the ogallala aquifer. as bad as it is a keystone spill, can we come to the conclusion it's disastrous. it's a norm across america. one los angeles police officer said pipeline spills are common place in the city. >> officer told us responding to oil spills is a recuring duty for city sanitation. >> we had four in the last four to five months. >> reporter: one in wilmington. it's a safety for the national resources defense council. >> just one more thing to show we need to transition away from oil and toward clean energy. in the meantime, we need to have the toughest environmental standards in place to make sure these accidents don't happen again. >> it's bigger than just los angeles. since 2010, there have been at least four major oil pipeline

ruptures in the united states. these oil companies are quick to clean, then weasel out of paying compensation to those hurt by it. in march of 2013, 12,000 barrels spilled from an exxon mobile pipeline in arkansas. there are numerous reports of exxon fighting residents lawsuits and cutting off compensation to victims. some oil companies lack regard for worker's safety, you know, the guys on the job. we know the oil business is booming in the northern tooer. the oil fields of north dakota. there's a new study out finding workers in north dakota are being killed at five times the national rate. from 2007 to 2012, deaths rose from 25 to 65. meanwhile, death benefits by the state are simply offensive. there is a one-time death benefit of $1200, plus $400 for each child.

funeral expenses are covered up to $6500, after that, orphans get, believe it or not, a maximum benefit of $15 a week. oil companies in north dakota, well, they need to keep workers safe. americans need to wake up and realize oil companies don't care about average americans or these kinds of things. it's the pr mop up. look at all the leaks around the country. this is why president obama needs to take a critical look at the keystone xl pipeline and pay no attention to the politicians, the scientists must rule in this issue. if this oil leak were to have happened over the ogallala aquifer, 30% of our water in this country could be contaminated and irreversible damage. let me ask you this, is the los angeles fire department going to be on the scene in the middle of

nebraska? you think a small volunteer fire department is going to be able to handle what they had to deal with in the streets of los angeles yesterday? i think not. in the first soundbyte that we played of the firefighter, he said we got the thing shut off. there was all this pressure behind it. it was still coming. folks, we don't need this risk. this is a canadian oil project coming over our soil. it does not add security to our country. it will not lower the prices at our pump. let's be real about this. this could have easily happened right where these farmers and landowners are saying we don't want this pipeline. if it does, it will be irreversible damage to the environment. get your cell phones out. tonight's question, do you trust that oil pipelines are safe. text a for yes, b for no to 67622. you can go to our blog at

ed.msnbc.com. we'll bring the results later in the show. back to los angeles. i'm going to bring in victoria of moveon.org. she lives near the spill in los angeles and was on the scene when it all unfolded. good to have you on "the ed show." how concerned are the residents now that this has happened and of course you heard one of the firefighters say it's starting to become common place in los angeles and around the area. tell us what's the mood of the people in the wake of this. >> well, i live in the neighborhood atwater village where the pipeline burst and a friend of mine who also lives nearby, she was at home with her family and a little baby, a 1-year-old. they all woke up with headaches and had to evacuate and two people were sent to the hospital. so, people are really concerned. i'm concerned.

i went by the site last night and workers were still on the scene working. i'm not convinced it's cleaned up. i was there at 10:30 last night. people are feeling sick. this is not the first time this has happened in los angeles. >> are people worried that the l.a. river is going to be contaminated? this is a really close call at this point. >> yep, the spill happened right by the los angeles river. there aren't -- i don't think we have enough information to know if our water is being contaminated. we know people are getting sick already, immediately from breathing in the fumes and another neighborhood in university park, los angeles, whe which is nearby los angeles felt sick from oil drilling. the drilling happening there in the neighborhood. we are talking not only about the pipelines that transport the

o oil, but the actual drilling in los angeles and facing a boom in fracking as well. >> there's no question about that. the plains pipe company released a statement saying the smell may cause a nauseous feeling, but poses no danger. what is the community reaction to them? >> well, you said it yourself, the reaction were two people sent to the hospital. my friend had to evacuate because people were feeling sick and nauseous. that's a health problem. it's a real health problem. people are going to the hospital. i wouldn't want to be there. >> victoria kaplan, thank you for being with us. i appreciate your time. let me bring in david k. johnson. his new book is "divided: the per ills of our growing quality." tell us about the situation in

north dakota. i was not aware of this. the oil companies expect the workers and the state isn't there to do much if there is even loss of life. >> yes, in north dakota you are seeing an extreme example of where the right wants to take this country. they boast about the fact they are state run workers insurance fund turns a big profit. the medical director complained earlier this year improper influence was brought to affect medical opinions and the director of the program said, i don't see merit in this complaint what so ever. they have been intimidating doctors who have given opinions that do not comport with what the state wants, which is gee, nobody gets hurt working in north dakota. when people die, the ridiculo ridiculously small benefits. $15 a week per child. nine cents an hour is what that

works out to a week, that you can raise a child after a parent has been killed. >> with your research, are the oil companies playing fair with the workers? i mean, is this a usual working environment when it comes to the oil industry or are they really stretching it? >> they are really stretching it. there's a company calls petrahunt from texas that came up and succeeded in getting an effort by osha to enforce safety laws tossed out. oil field work is dangerous. the reason you want financials to take care of people killed is to encourage the companies to spend the money necessary for safety equipment and for safe practices. when the rates are as low as they are in north dakota, no business person operating solely on the basis of economics would invest a penny in safety.

>> yeah. how can the government regular lay -- regulate this. there's 200 companies operating in this region. it really is a phenomenal story. there's a lot of competition there. there's no question about that. where does government regulation come in when you see so many people losing their lives. statistically, it's really increased. >> yeah. we don't need to have a safety inspector at every site all the time that's an absurd way to go. in north dakota there's one safety inspector for every 50,000 workers. there's eight inspectors in the whole state. it would take 811 years to go to every job site. they need 40 some inspectors. it needs to be enough inspectors the employers not paying attention to worker safety know

they will be found out and gone after because we should be putting lives ahead of profits. we shouldn't not have profits. we want to have profits but should not be diminishing lives, killing people in the pursuit of profit. >> well, it sounds like it's the old wild, wild west. and of course -- ssh it is north dakota, ed. >> well, it is. >> it is north dakota, ed, it's not minnesota. >> that's right. it's -- they have a rail issue up here that i know a lot of lawmakers are looking at as well. as much as we are pulling out of the ground, it's causing a lot of problems. they say the best thing to do is throw a pipeline at it. you have seen what can happen. first responders are not going to be in the middle of the country taking care of the pressure or have the workers we are talking about. david k. johnson, great having you here. answer tonight's question at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter and facebook.

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>> joining me tonight, robert greenwald. the updated version of the documentary, koch brothers exposed will be released may 20th. always great work. i appreciate your time tonight. what's changed since your first release, koch brothers exposed. ? >> what's changed, ed is a series of things. most importantly, citizens united, which by the way, in the film, we explain the koch brothers role in citizens united, how they help work behind the scenes and through a series of groups to file friends of the court brief. they helped implement citizens united. now they are using that to spend hundreds of millions of dollars more. we take the audience through and help them explain that and we explain the role of the koch brothers in fighting minimum wage. you know, you would think people with $100 billion, "b" as in

billion would be gracious and want people to have a reasonable rate and way to live. unfortunately, that is not the case. they are doing everything in their power with all of their money to resist the series of important elements and changes for society. >> mr. greenwald, in your research, the koch brothers, as well all know, americans for prosperity, they are planning on spending at least the number is $125 million in this election cycle. how deep does this money go? what is their mission? how far will they go? >> well, what's interesting, maybe that's not the right word, what's troubling, what's profoundly difficult, we had a team of crack researchers, ed, working for months. you cannot find the real and true numbers. they have lawyers doing everything possible to hide how much they give, where they give

and what they are doing. what we know for sure is they are very, very smart about how they fund. they don't just fund a bunch of lousy 30-second spots. they fund the ideas and the think tanks. they fund colleges and give money with strings attached. they fund pundits and write bills around voter suppression and busting unions and resisting environmental protections. they are doing all that. what the film does, it tries to put a human face on it and says, you know, there's policy and politics. here are people whose every day lives are being impacted by what the koch's are going. >> how far do they go to fund people in the media? i mean these groups that have spokes people out on networks and such stuff as that and websites, in the new media. how deep do they go?

>> again, it's very important. we'll never know completely the answers. but we do know they fund a series of think tanks ten, 12, 20, 30, 40 of them. different spokesmen who work for the think tanks are funded by the koch brothers. when you have $100 million, $1 million here, $1 million there, it's not a big deal. thanks to over 2,000 donors who gave everything from $5 to $5,000. we are going to be able to offer the film for free. we'll never fight their money, right? film is a great tool for reaching people and showing them and saying here is what they are doing. here is how it's affecting your life. your life around the right to vote. or your life around social security or your life around getting the minimum wage. >> well, okay, this is going to be offered up free to the public because of the donations that you have gotten so your folks can go out and do the research.

i think what's unique is harry reid has been throwing punch after punch. it's almost a daily occurrence. he's trying to get an amendment to the constitution to ban this kind of money in the election system. the way he is -- i don't mind saying this, targeting the koch's. i don't know if that's the proper word or not, but the koch brothers are the focal point of harry reid's conversation quite often. isn't this unprecedented? >> it is. on tuesday night when we premiered the film, ed, senator reid and leader pelosi, both, together, will be there because it's so important to talk about the koch brothers. what they are, i think, is they are the poster boys for dark money in politics. it can't just be them and won't be just them. there were other billionaires spending the most money. we need to fundamentally change

this system that allows legalized corruption to go on and on and on. >> well, as long as the supreme court is conservative, i don't know how it's going to happen. it would have to take a very progressive legislative body to get it done. this citizens united could be here for a long time, but, what do the koch's want? what do they want? from your research, do they want to run the government? do they want to control legislation? do they want to deregulate? what do they want? >> i try o not to answer psychological questions, my family does that. what we know is they have a toxic mixture between ideology and profit. they work hand-in-hand. they support each other. the more regulations you take off, the more their companies are able to do whatever they want in terms of ruining the

environment, in terms of potentially giving people illnesses. it goes on and on and on. i think what they want is no government, no controls. no protections for every one of us out there so they with their $100 billion will be able to do whatever when ever they want to do it. >> all right. new information on the koch's. robert greenwald. bravenewfilms.org is where you can access this information. great to have you with us. appreciate your time. rush limbaugh's desperate gender politics. later, conservatives raise the pressure on president obama to sign, yes, a bad trade dial. larry cohen, cwa joins me with the latest. next, i'm taking your questions, ask ed live. good job!

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welcome back to "the ed show." love hearing from you viewers. the first question comes from steve. do you think president obama is pursuing the transpacific partnership knowing the republicans will filibuster and obstruct it? wait a minute. no, no, no. the republicans want the ttp. there are some republicans who don't want it. but, not enough. believe me. the conservatives, the corporations, wall street, they definitely want the tpp, no question about it. i think the president is between a rock and a hard spot. he knows it's a bad deal, but for some reason, he's for it. what's making president obama going for the tpp? i find it very puzzling. goes around the country talking about jobs. goes around the country talking about building bridges and roads. why doesn't he talk about the tpp? the only time he talks about the tpp is somewhere off in a

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welcome back to "the ed show." thanks for watching tonight. rush limbaugh is blasting hillary clinton's potential 2016 run for president. the right wingers delegitimize clinton's record and discount her gender. >> when asked to name anything she did as secretary of state, they draw a blank and yet they are enthusiastic about her becoming president. and you know why? because she would be the first woman. the only and greatest achievement hillary clinton has is her gender. being female. >> diversity is not a pawn in politics, it's a necessity.

the white male dominated has worked to stifle this country. we can see it in the supreme court knocking down the voting right. how about them going after and disrespecting women's rights and endangering their care, their health care. congress won't lift a finger to understand the needs of the poor. they don't believe in the minimum wage. limbaugh's ignorant reasoning cut the resources and vocal cords of anyone who is not like them. once again, limbaugh shows his stupidity and underscores why clear channel is shuffling off his talents to a lower rated station across the country. rush limbaugh's brand of commentary pulls down the gop. they are stuck with him. it's another cringe moment for republicans who are honest brokers and really want to see women advance in our society and be treated equally because when it comes to issues in the workplace, even a story this

week, simply, they are not. joining me now in our rapid respond panel, liz and annette. great to have both of you with us tonight. liz, you first. what is the mission here of limbaugh? how insulting is this to women? everybody knows the accomplishments of hillary clinton. >> well, i think if anybody cared about rush limbaugh, it would be awful. the fact of the matter is, he's just speaking to his -- he's the broadway danny rose of talk radio. he throws balls in the air and shiny objects to people who are idiots and listen to him. it doesn't matter. it's not like a bunch of women were listening to rush limbaugh and men going gosh, i was going to vote for hillary clinton until rush told me she didn't do anything. anything rush says, anybody with a brain says i don't think so. >> so, has he gotten to the

point where he is irrelevant with women? i mean, the majority of his audience is men, of course, but his demise of being moved to lower rated stations and smaller signals around the country is an industry statement, certainly the guy is not what he used to be. he still keeps going after the clinton's. it's almost as if he's trying to reinvent an old strategy when he was at his height in the '90s. what do you think? >> he's never been really vent with women, especially democratic or progressive women. when he says things like hillary clinton hasn't done anything except be female, what needle is he moving? there's no moving of the needle. he's preaching to the choir the crap he's always preached. it's like feeding your dog the same food every day. they go to the bowl and eat it.

they need nothing. >> boosting diversity in the political field is, itself, racist and sexist. here it is. >> to get hillary in there, first female president, any criticism of her will be sexist. if it's an hispanic, the first hispanic president, any criticism will be racist. they are the most sexist. these are the people that only see the surface of people. >> annette, i would like to get your reaction to that? >> first of all, this is coming from a man whose only thing is scamming doctors for pain pills. beyond that, he is saying that we are racist and we are sexist because we want to elect the first woman or because we elected the first black man? you have to be kidding me. this is a man that just is so scared of hillary clinton and the possibility that we, as women, are so excited about

electing her. not because she's a woman. of course we're excited about that, but we are excited because she's capable. she is totally prepared. >> annette, there's a lot of people around the clinton camp that believe the only person that can stop hillary clinton is hillary clinton. that she is so strong, is that the case in florida? what is the mood amongst democrats in florida with the anticipation that hillary clinton will run? >> a lot of excitement in florida. a lot of excitement from democrats. and even from independents and some republicans. that's the issue. she actually has cross over appeal. hispanics like her. when polled against marco rubio, she beats him big time. there's excitement from every segment. she wins florida over florida.

>> limbaugh's statement proves what the right does so often is they listen to themselves talking constantly because the biggest debate right now in democratic circles in feminist circles and progressive circles is, you know, is hillary progressive enough for us. many of us look at her record and say i wish she wouldn't have voted for the war. i don't like her relationship with wall street. when rush makes these weird, blanket statements they are not true. that's the part i find troubling for his listeners is they listen to everything he says then they take it. none of it is true at all. that's the part that is frightening. >> yeah. would limbaugh make the same argument against sarah palin if she ran for president in 2016? annette, what do you think? s >> i doubt it, but this has been

an amazing week where they really tried to attack hillary. this is the same week we were told she has brain damage. let's not forget benghazi when she was supposed to testify, she was hiding and it was all a lie. now it's brain damage. they can't get her facts straight they are so afraid of her. >> annette, liz, great to have both of you with us tonight here on "the ed show." thank you for joining us. coming up, rafael cruz speaks out about poverty. he misses the mark. pretenders is next. ted states ted states means advanced technology. we learned that technology allows us to be craft oriented. no one's losing their job. there's no beer robot that has suddenly chased them out. the technology is actually creating new jobs. siemens designed and built the right tools and resources to get the job done.

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deficit grows and good paying jobs are shipped over there to not come back. just look at the trade deficit with china. in to 001, china was given preferred nations trading stat sus. since then, the u.s. deficit with china has skyrocketed. in 2012, the trade deficit was roughly $540 billion. now, that might be just a number to you, folks, but those are american jobs. the united states has lost more than 2.7 million jobs as a result of the trade deficits with china. president obama needs to listen to u.s. labor leaders and lawmakers who are calling for fair trade, not free trade. larry cohen, communication workers president of america is with us here tonight. larry, good to have you back with us. i want to ask about your union, what country involved in the tpp is the worse for the communication workers of america? >> well, i think for all of us

here, it's vietnam. whether union or not, with the 28 cent an hour average wage, virtually no protections on child or forced labor, virtually no environmental standards, and even worse, it is the provisions of tpp that will allow international companies to sue vietnam if they ever get a decent government that believes in human rights and economic justice because they can sue over the loss of future profits. and what's included in this deal. this secret tribunals that allow them to sue for the loss of future profits. there's 500 of those cases around already. not involving vietnam, because we don't have a bilateral deal with them. but that's the starting point for what's wrong. there's nothing here on currency manipulation. there's nothing that gives the same kind of enforcement on labor environmental consumer standards that gives to multinationals and banks to sue for future loss of their

investment profits. it's all bad. it's boehner trade. it's not obama trade. we're looking at boehner trade here. right now, the house caucus is rejecting and we need to call on this president to say no. that if we don't have a majority of the democratic caucus, no to boehner trade. >> well, the president goes around the country and he talks about jobs. the president has been talking about infrastructure this week. building bridges and such stuff as that, but i haven't seen the president really go out on the campaign trail, so to speak, and talk about the tpp. i think he knows in his heart and his mind that this is a bad deal but he's being forced into it by the bankers. why don't we hear the president talk more out across the country about the tpp? >> i think he knows that he does not have the support of his own party. that pelosi, ranking democrat levett and others, a, they haven't seen the whole thing, which is disgraceful. and b, they're not going to support it as it is.

and they've said that, 153 of them seened the letter. he has a choice to make. he's showing his own reluctance, is it boehner trade or do i stand with the caucus who stood with me on all the economic issues that boehner rejected? that's the decision he's going to have to make. >> well, he's quiet about the tpp, although when he gets in certain situations, the president talks about it. i mean, i just don't think he's terribly sold on it, but if he really thinks it's good for america, where is the sell job from the white house? they've had a trade negotiator go up and testify in front of congress, but that's really been the root of it so far. deep down dork they know it's a bad deal? >> i think deep down they know their own party does not support it. and that gives him some disquiet. and the base. this is not just labor. the 1,000 people we had in the ring here that lobbied last week were greens, students, progressives, consumer groups. virtually the entire base of the democratic party.

and he's going to be turning on all of us if we goes ahead with this deal, or even worse, to try to fast track a deal we haven't even seen. >> and what about the grassroots effort. what kind of response do you get up on capitol hill. are you turning some people your way against this that weren't there before? >> i think number one, the more than 150 democrats in the house caucus that have already signed letter against this, they see the base is with them, and that's across the country. and number two, you know, from idaho to the deep south, republicans realize their base doesn't support this either they just want it to be a secret. we're going to make sure it's not a secret. >> well, if it's about jobs, it can't be about the tpp, that is for sure. larry cohen, president of the communication workers of america. great to have you with us tonight again, larry. thanks so much.

"makes nation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. thanks to you for tuning in. i'm live tonight from los angeles. tonight's lead, the greatest no show on earth. for months, months, far right extremists have been promising a giant rally in washington. their goal -- kick president obama out of office. here's what organizers expect. >> we're intending to field about 10 million to 20 million people in washington, d.c. and with we're going to close it down. >> wait a minute, that's why we have elections. >> we're going to go out into maryland and virginia. >> you're predicting 10 million people will be doing this? >> absolutely. >> 10 million people. really? and what, pray tell, are those 10 million people going