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ingredient in a hot sauce is creating a hub-bub. and jumping for power. how you can charge your cell phone with a couple of jumps. we start with breaking news from the white house. we learned that julian castro has been tapped to serve as the director of housing and development. castro is 39 years old. he is considered to be a ridesing democratic star. some say he might be a leading vice presidential pick. christian walker, what more do we know here? >> it looks like there will be reshuffling here at the white house. government resources confirming that president obama planned to

tap major castro for hud. so the question is what becomes of shawn donovan. the idea is that he would go to o.m.b. those are the reports right now. and of course that would replace silvia matthews who was tapped to replace secretary sibilias at hhs. they only say they have no personnel announcements at this hour. this is significant news for all of the reasons that you just mapped out, of course, mayor castro is a rising star in the democratic party. he spoke at the 2012 national con recession. there is information that he could possibly be a vice presidential pick, and this elevates prominent hispanic --

so significant on different levels, but the news out of the white house today is that according to government sources, he intends to tap mayor julian castro to head h.u.d. >> new fall out on that controversy at the veteran affairs commission. new information about the phoenix v.a. center. we have details from other v.a. hospitals where sharon helman worked. they say that records were manipulated to make patient wait times see shorter there. >> it's been more than a month that attentions that 40 veterans died while waiter for care at the phoenix v.a.

to date, the obama administration has failed to respond in an effective manner. >> we learned yesterday about the resignation of robert pretze lerks. he w . he was set to retire this year anyway. what more is the administration planning in terms of a response? or are they planning more? >> they are planning more, but you're absolutely right, craig. they come amidst mounting criticism. to your point, despite the fact that he was about to retire in september, you have chairman jeff miller saying that it is the pinnacle of disingenuous political double speak. so a number of lawmakers, particularly republicans, calling on this administration to take more action. i can tell you that the president's latest move is to appoint his deputy chief of

staff to join secretary in his review of the va. that review will be aimed at determining what specifically went wrong and how it can be prevented in the future. and just getting the v.a. back on track. there is an ig investigation as well. prosecutors also looking into what went wrong at the v.a., so there could possibly be criminal charges that come out of all of this. republicans saying they want to see action and also veterans groups saying they want to see action right now. mou mounting calls for the secretary to resign. he faced very tough questions on capitol hill this week. he said he didn't know specificly where all of the problems exist, but said that the investigation is under way and that the investigation is aimed at determining specifically what led to what appears to be as many as 40 veterans dieing while waiting to

receive medical care. also important to point out that president obama continues to insist that he has confidence. so it doesn't appear he is going anywhere right now. >> kristin walker, thank you. let's get to another developing story. the state of emergency that continues to exist in southern california. firefighters battling those stubborn wild fires that forced evacwas in 20,000 homes so far. jennifer is live for us in san marcos, i understand at that point that weather conditions are making the fight a bit easier today, is that right? >> that's right, craig. that is a very true statement that i think most firefighters would agree. the most important factor in a fire fight is the weather and it's one of the things they just can't control. this is the west, on this end of us, and this morning the fog

came in, the wind shifts direction a little bit. it was cool air in the region. temperatures are dropping 20 degrees at most places since yesterday. so that is great news for firefighters out here. one of the keys is the humidity this marine layer brings in. to give you an example of how that changed, yesterday it was in the low teens. on the days when the fire broke out, we're looking at humidity in the single digits. this is a big relief for those who took a turn in this weather to get these fires snuffed out. >> i understand there was, or has been, an arrest in connection with how this thing may a started. what more can you tell us about that? >> there have been 300 people arrested, whether they're connected to any fires that have broken out, it is still a big

question. setting allegedly fires where firefighters were staging. that was a couple days ago. last night there was an arraignment for a 57-year-old man seen throwing brushlush on fire that was already burning. we have no clear information that any of these fires were arson, but since so many of them started on the same day, pretty close together within a few miles, it is always going to be a question. >> jennifer for us in san marcos, thank you. >> a new agreement between general motors and the general government has a maximum fine of $35 million for failing to disclose safety problems. g.m. is recalling more than 2.6 million cars. some critics say it doesn't go far enough. >> the government says g.m.'s

own training manuals advised employees not to use words like defec defects. >> it's the safety culture at g.m. that federal regulators has been broken for years. the clearest evidence is the 2.6 million cars under recall for faulty key switches and air bags that fail to deploy. >> we will never accept someone that knows danger exists. >> the ignition switch defect could prevent the air bags from deploying. >> how could they hide this and not tell. >> marie's grandmother and sister died in twine after their chevy cobalt were killed.

>> today, six years old, he must use a wheelchair. >> he will never be able to be a football star, or you know that baseball player, or you know anything like that, his life has changed forever. so far they acknowledge 31 deaths related to the defects. they say they will now focus on the goal in becoming an industry leader in safety. but general motors has only been hit with a slap on the wrist. >> they will not make gm think twice again because they can make that $35 million back before the end of today's business. >> they are asked to raise the maximum fine they can levy. g.m. is paying a $7,000 a day penalty for failing to provide all of the documents they have

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incidents and outlandish statements and spark outrage on facebook and twitter, we're likely to miss the more middle and troubling reality behind the headlines. >> we want to apologize for the audio there. that was not our feed, but i think you got the gist of what he was saying there. what is behind the headlines. >> i think the attorney general is trying to distinguish between racism 1.0 and racism 2.0. 1.0 is jim crowe laws, that brown v. board of education 60 years ago wiped away. he is saying individual level prejudice and bias. he is saying there is a more subtle problem. it might not be just prejudice

in attitudes. these are the more subtle ways in which racial discrimination is operating today. >> molly, in addition to eric holder today, president obama apparently last night met with some of the principals from that brown case, yesterday first lady michelle obama was in topeka kansas speaking to the high school graduating class, this is a little bit of what the first lady said. >> there is no court case against believing in stereotypes, or thinking that some kinds of certain hateful jokes or comments are funny. so the answers to many of our challenges today can't necessarily be found in our laws. these challengnges need to takee in our hearts and minds. >> two speeches from high profile people in the last 48

hours, what are they trying to do here? >> i think we have seen the obama administration and noteworthy african-americans be more forthright about racial issues. the last time eric holder made a speech about race was in if 2009. and you know there was a report that he was yelled at for that, he was taken under ground for awhile. but holder has been more outspoken about these issues in the second term. they have spoken pretty forthrightly. so i think they're free now to talk about what's in their hearts on these things. second term or a different kind of liberation? >> i think the concern of particularly the white advisors around the president is how he is perceived by white america

and not wanting to talk too much about black issues. this is an object of passion. eric holder specifically. i think there is a lot of african-americans that think he has been the conscious of the administration on things like voter i.d. >> i would like to encourage folks to watch holder's speech or read a transcript. it's like he said i saw the coverage, i read the donald sterling stuff. we should stop going after the low hanging fruit, and we should not be so lassie on the righteous indignation that we all have. that we all have when we hear ridiculous things said. >>. >> so criminal in the and laws that unfairly target

african-americans and race neutral policies. he mentioned school discipline policies and how they're race neutral but they disproportionately affect african-american males. he is trying to say, look, yes, we all have to look at the policies that affect communities of color and do something about that. this is inescapable for this administration to talk about race. the 60th anniversary of the brown v. board of education. they can't escape the resonence. >> we should note for our viewers at home, many of which who are huge dorian fans, he will be hosted melissa

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welcome back, developing right now in southern california, hopeful conditions for firefighters, cooler conditions helping firefighters contain nearly a dozen wildfires there. in san marcos alone, officials say that cocos fire that burned more than 2500 acres is now at least 50% contained. some of the tens of thousands that have been evacuated are being allowed to return to their homes today. here is a look at other stories making headlines today. in turkey, the search effort is over now. rescue workers now retrieved the last of the bodies of the miners since that explosion. the disaster left more than 300 dead. outrage in the streets continue today in turkey. they were trying to control

growing demonstrations. police and people there are angry over their poor workplace safety record. nearly 500 minors managed to escape or be rescued. and an agreement to beef up the fight against boko haram. the group that took hundreds of schoolgirls is, quote, more dangerous than originally thought. in india, celebrations continue over the historic election that just happened there. the ruling party was ousted after more than two decades in power. it was a landslide victory for the next prime minister. president obama called him yesterday to offer his congratulations and to invite him to the white house. and people in wolfborough,

new hampshire want their police chief gone. he was recently heard calling president obama the n-word. he said he would not apologize or resign. meanwhile a long time housing activist and minister is now the head of the naacp. the former president resigned last year. in california, the embattled owner of the los angeles clippers appears to be gearing up for quite the fight. there is reports today that donald sterling is refusing to pay that fine imposed by the nba. not only that, he also reportedly threatened to sue the league. ben covered the league. ben, good to see you, sir. it seems like this story goes from bad to worse. where does everything stand right now? is. >> he is digging in and his wife

is digging in too. shelly sterling lawyered up. she wanted to fight to keep her stake, but the nba is plugging forward. not only the lifetime ban that has been put into place, but to cease his ownership and force him to sell the team. i think their goal is to have that process completed. and the players put a lot of pressure on them to continue to go forward with that. they said time and again they don't want to play for sterling, donald or his wife, by the start of next season. so that's a strict timeline. >> let's talk about that bors. they both say they're in the process of divorcing. what role is that going to have or will it at all if the legal can force sterling to sell the team? >> the nba claims it should not matter. they say it doesn't matter if it's his wife, son-in-law, or anyone else that owned the team.

they say if they force him to sell, he is in a position where he has to sell, that's going to do it. of course sterling's wife and her lawyers are going to take a different angle. they think she should be dealt with independently. so that could create a new legal battle. they have to go through the proceedings before it's an issue. >> earlier this week we heard from lebron james that said he will be boycotting next season if sterling still owns the clippers. how is that being perceived by the league and other players? is it just talk? could it become a reality in the nba? >> players executive said he spoke to lebron and he said he

was interested in boycotting next season. he said lebron would work with the league office and lebron said he would support the league office as they continue to try to oust donald sterling. so the threat is out there and they made that threat repeatedly. they want to see action taken quickly, but i think you're right. some people look at it as an empty threat. some people don't know what else to do. we look at the players union in the last couple years, they have not had great leadership. it brought about a total change in management for the president, and some other staff members. so they're in a situation where i think they're struggling a little bit. how can they exert their influence. they want to let sterling out, and they don't want to mess around, and they want their voices to be herd.

>> ben, thank you. this week and this year have been filled with a flood of activity for same sex marriage. nearly a third of all americans live in a state where same sex marriage is legal. so it could be hard to imagine that at one point, a single state stood alone. massachusetts. today marks a decade since the first legally recognized same sex marriages took place in the united states and gay rights activities are marking the anniversary with optimism. joining me is heidi and her wife gina and their two sons. thank you for being with me. >> thank you for asking us. >> i should start, i guess, with happy anniversary. you were the first couple to get a marriage license in north hampton as i understand it.

take me back to that day and set the scene for us at city hall. >> well, the first thing was we had met with the city clerk to figure out what we were going to do. it was just as new to them as it was to us. that morning, we walked into the plaza in front of city hall where we get our marriage license and there was hundreds of people waiting. there was people waiting in line to get their own marriage licenses. there were people who brought their children out of school to be witness to history. it was a big party scene. people were giving out wedding cake, balloons, and it was really a festive day. >> we talked to the former city clerk that signed the licenses, and she told us she was shocked how far the movement has come. she said she expected it to snowball soon saying momentum has picked up, and i think it's great. same sex marriage will be legal

in all of the states in the foreseeable future. ten years later is this where you thought it would be? >> i had hoped, but i don't think i could have foreseen what a snowball and momentum it has been. it's very exhilarating and it feels like it proves the rightness of what we have been saying all along. that families matter, love should win out, and families deserve respect and recognition. i think it's being felt all over the country. >> heidi and gina, do you keep in contact with any of the other early couples in the fight in mass? >> we do, we get together every year for a thanksgiving type of celebration or something around this time of year, and we just had the pleasure today of having a potluck and just a quick celebration with many of the couples today that were plaintiffs in the case. >> avery, i understand you were about five at the time. did you understand why being

able to get married was so important for your moms and for you as a family in 2004? >> i did. the way i understanding it is we loved each other as a family and we felt like a family, but i understood that not everyone felt that way and recognized that. so i think it was about getting that recognition from the community and the state that we really were a family. >> quinn, you really never knew any other different type of family. you were just a baby when your moms were married. can you imagine not growing up in that kind of family environment? >> not really. it just seems normal to me. that kind of family. i have not known anything besides that. >> quinn, very quickly. one of the early concerns, one of the early knocks on same-sex

marriage is that kids would grow up in these weird households and the kids would be mal adjusted. what say you to that? st what's your response to that? >> that's just not right at all. my family is great. it just seems normal to me, though. i don't know what it would be like to have any other kind of family. there is nothing wrong with this one. >> heidi, shortly before your marriage, i'm sure you saw what happened in san francisco, ga couples got married and their marriages were invalidated, were you scared something like that would happen to you and gina? >> i can understand why you would ask, but i never focused on that. i just wanted to let the love of my family and my sureness of what we were doing carry the day. and plow forward and not looking

back or to the side. i'm glad i did because i think that's what made us feel so secure and bonded all of this time. >> gina what's the most important -- go ahead, gina. >> we have fabulous sons that anyone would be proud to have. and that was part, for us, telling the story of our family. to say we have our ups and our downs, and families have lots of interesting ways to be. but we all love each other, and we put our energy into making it the best for all of us. >> we'll leave it there, the norton-smiths. a big thanks to all of you, all four of you. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. is the nfl going soft on pot punishment? a source tells espn that a newly proposed pot policy would increase the threshold for positive marijuana test.

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when it comes to hot sauce, some say it can't be hot enough. one that you may have heard of is sriracha. 100 million bottles are made every year in irwindale, california. but get it while you can. local residents want it shut down.

residents say strong smells from vak tire cause headaches, scratchy throats and burning eyes. frank, you have been to the factory. you tried to sniff out these smells that so many residents have been complaining about. what did you find? >> i went to the factory back in grinding season and stuck my head in this air at the top of the factory. they grind the peppers in a type and is sucks at air out the top. it was not a pleasant experience. i didn't experience tear gas like symptoms that the residents were complaining about, and i was at the source of the smell. but i didn't smell it, myself. >> this is becoming an interesting political fight. just this week we saw delegation

from texas. senator ted cruise tweeting sriracha may not be welcome in california, but you're welcome in texas. who has a dog in this fight, frank? >> more than ten states reached out to bring the hot sauce to their jurisdiction. it is becoming a very politically popular hot sauce. what effect that will have on their fate, i'm not sure. the city counsel members are unlikely to be influenced even be national politicians because they don't have political ambitions. it is a bit of a political popularity contest now. >> the company's owner has been making the sauce apparently there since 1980. what is his reaction to all of

this? >> he has been making his saus in chinatown, rosemead, and irw irw irw irwindale for the last few years. he thinks the city is out to get him and she a very proud man. the city is considering designating the factor a public nuisance and a trial date has been set for september. >> okay, we're going to leave it there. frank, thank you so much. new developments in the turkey mine disaster as they take new steps steps there. the exit sparked a controversy on it's own. details on that, next, here on msnbc. booking to baggage claim. we're raising the bar on flying

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. breaking news from the white house this afternoon. a big new role for a rising star. good saturday to you. we're also following developing news from san diego where a new brush fire is burning right now. the smoke is so bad it's sparking health warnings throughout the region. we'll go there live. and lives lost over iphone. a man whose daughter was killed for her smart phone and why. and what could manufacturers do to prevent tragedies like this in the future and why they're not doing it now. also, how far have we come? 60 years after the brown versus board of education, why are schools now more segregated than ever. we start with more on that breaking news story from 1600 pennsylvania. nbc news just confirming that julian castro has been tapped to

stev serve as the secretary of rising development? he is a pick in 2016 according to some. kristen, what more do we know here? >> we know there is going to be a little reshuffling in the president's cabinet. he intends for him to take over as secretary of hud. the question is where will shawn donovan go. reportedly he will head to omb silvia matthews just left because she was nominated to take over at hhs for secretary sibilas. he delivered the keynote address

at the last convention. the first hispanic to do that, by the way. this comes as president obama is pushing to get immigration reform passed. so if this were to ultimately go through. so it is suggest for that reason. then you have the politics of 2016. the fact that there is this buzz around him that there is a vp contender, someone that would personally bring a large portion of the latino vote to a democratic ticket. as you know back in 2012, that made a big difference for president obama when he won latinos by 70%. a lot of factors at play here, he is a very popular mayor. i have been looking at twitter all afternoon, craig, and folks

in san diego are cheering this decision that their native son is going to the white house. >> was this selection in any way, shape, or form because the administration became unfied with his performance, or was this about trying to get castro into the cabinet? >> i don't think that was at play. i think that's why you will see shawn donovan move over to o.m.b. by the way the white house is not commenting on this yet. they are saying what we typically hear from white house officials in these situations, is that they have no personnel announcements to make at this time. i tried to get this confirmed by several people within the administration. but that is what the landscape looks like and what the reshuffling looks like. so it looks like it has more to do with castro more than anything else and that there will be chairs moving around

here. a portion of southern california remains on high alert there. a lot of that state is on fire. firefighters are trying to put out fires that forced tens of thousands from their home. jennifer is live in san marcos, are crews at this point getting the upper hand? >> yes, they are, craig. this fire, the cocos fire that has been so destructive is now at 70% containment. that is good news as they start to repopulate these neighborhoods. most of the people who were evacuated in this fire are back in excement for in these fires this have burned homes. a steam was just through here a few minutes ago doing mop up on this house that burned down. the top of a hill overlooking

the burned area. you see a slight layer of fog and smoke out there, that is the best news for firefighters. the most important tool they have in their tool box is the weather. it's the one thing they can't control. it's the thing they hope turns in their favor and that's what happened today. so far it's 20 degrees cooler than it was yesterday. and it is also a relief, craig. >> jennifer, what more do we know about how any of these started? >> well a lot of these fires started the same day, on wednesday, when the fire conditions were terrible. any spark could have set them off. they really only know the cause for one fire. the bernardo fire was started by a construction worker that accidentally sparked the fire while digging a trench with a backhoe. that's the only definitive answer we have so far.

>> jennifer, thank you. bo k boko haram is a terrorist group. they abducted nearly 300 girls from their school in the middle of the night last month. those remarks from paris come today after president jonathan canceled a trip to the village where they were snatched. it was planned for yesterday. criticism came that he has not commented on the kidnapping in three weeks. bill leely -- neely has the latest. >> the leaders certainly talked tough today. five african leaders were there and they basically declared war

on the nigerian based group. they kidnapped the girls and they have been kills thousands in nigeria for the last five years. they talk tough. chad's president declaring war against the group. they said this was no longer a type of local menace, this was a regional threat that is part of the al qaeda organization. and france's president agrees. so the talk was tough. what have they agreed to do? that is more sketchy. they aimed at created a regional action plan to seal the borders between their countries more effectively to prevent boko haram bringing arms and men across the borders, and to share negligence. apparently cameron and nigeria

hardly speak to each other about boko haram. so there is an aim out there and we'll have to wait until we see how effective they are for carrying this out. for the missing girls, they're the reason the summit was called in the first place. nigerian's president says he was doing the best to find them. he said his men were searching on the ground. 20,000 troops, he claims, but that number is highly questionable because that's almost if not more than the entire nigerian army force in the north of the country. he also defended his decision not to go to the village from where the girls were kidnapped. he promised to go there at some point in the future. the parents of the missing schoolgirls were very upset

about that. they think he broke his promise and that he doesn't care. his spokesman said there was never a plan to go in the first place. he just went straight to paris for this summit. for the international search, the u.s. was using manned and unmanned plans, still searches the forrest where it was thought the girls were being held. there was no confirmed siting of the girls so far. back to you. >> bill, thank you. now to the latest on the scandal surrounding the department of veteran's affairs, outrage continues to build over the long waits that may have led to the deaths of dozens of our veterans. critics point out that petzel was due to retire this year anyway. several lawmakers criticize the

administration's response to the scandal. senator john mccain took to the air waves to deliver the republican weekly address. >> to date, the obama administration failed to respond in an effective manner. this created in our veteran's community a crisis of confidence towards the v.a. >> ann is a veteran that served in iraq, ann, let's start there. it s there a christ of confidence with the v.a.? is. >> yes, there absolutely is. thank you for having me. veterans want the v.a. to work. they need to to work. veterans that return home need to have confidence in the v.a. the veterans just finding invisible sounds need to access the v.a. and residents need faith that this system works.

>> we all agree on that, but why does it not. how is it so broken? what are we missing here? >> sure, i work with job seeks veterans in silicon valley, and when they get great access to care, their lives have fundamentally changed. veterans around the country in many facilities are not getting access to care. they're being effected, their families are being effected and it's stalling them from moving on and continuing to serve their communities. >> are you satisfied with how the obama administration responded to the controversy? >> we need leadership and accountability. it needs to come to the top and from all sides. right now we have whistle-blowers, employees, veteran service organizations that are speaking up about this. but we want to see the president speaking up about this. we want to see the secretary

speaking up about it. >> they asked that the secretary be forced to step down. this is what was written as an editorial. going back to his four-star days, he has long been recognized as a behind the scenes leader. one that uses influence outside of the public eye. unfortunately that's the wrong style for what v.a. needs now. a forceful highly visible leader that demands reforms and details the resources to carry them out. someone that will hold people accountable, bruise egos when necessary, and push hard to bring the v.a. into the modern age. should the secretary step down? >> i spoke to a lot of fellow veterans about this in the last few days and weeks, and they share my outage about this. personally i don't think the secretary should step down.

i think we need to hear from him. the next few days and weeks are critical. there needs to be speed on this, communication on this, and he doesn't need to just talk to the leaders, but he needs to speak to the veterans. his patients and customers directly and tell us what will happen to change this. there needs to be accountability. if people were cooking the books, false fieing the wait times. if people knew, then they need to be punished and held accountable. >> thank you for your time and for your service. >> hillary clinton put 18 million cracks in the class ceiling in 2008 as she eyes another potential presidential run. as the landscape changed in the last eight years? a few things happened this week that has folks saying not so much. the first super tuesday of midterms is just three days

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if republicans want to see taking the senate become a reality, they news a surge. first they have to hang on to two seats in kentucky and georgia. we will get our first indication if they will be able to do than on tuesday. two hotly contested republican primaries will take place. amy kramer joins me from atlanta. let's talk about tuesday. kentucky made headlines for months now. you have mitch mcconnell being changed by matt bevin. probably no other republican

democrats would like to knock off mitch mcconnell. what's the mood right now among the republican voters in the bluegrass state? >> there is a lot of energy and momentum. i think what happens on tuesday is people will be surprised at the amount of support that matt bevin has. >> we should note for the record that you have been consulting for matt bevin's campaign. >> yes, that's fine, i'm still tea party, it doesn't matter. this is a race that polls have shaun us that people are tired of the incumbents. people want change. and god bless these men that have served 30 and 40 or 47 years for one of them. that's longer than i have been alive. we have almost $18 trillion in debt and it's going up, not

down. that's the problem and they want change. what will mitch mcconnell do different in the next six years that he has not had the opportunity to do in 30 years. that's what this is about. people across america want change. >> if mcconnell wins on tuesday, he will likely face alison lundergan grimes. voters are angry at washington. of course the case could be made that's the mood every two years, how much of this race is going to be mcconnell -- how much of this is going to be him having to be on the defensive about the nearly three decades in washington? >> listen, i can tell you that this is a primary and he spent over $12 million in the primary alone. all he did is attack matt bevin and his democratic challenger.

he is not running on his record. the reason is because he has been part of the problem. if people remember, he just gave president obama a blank check. everything that republicans have done over the past five or six years, they don't fight for anything. when we wanted them to stand up and defund obama care they didn't do it. their tax cuts -- >> a lot of folks argue they have stood up and fought. you mentioned the obama care fight. there was some 50 votes to repeal obama care, led by republicans. >> this is the thing. they funded obama care when they knew exactly what was about to happen. it wasn't just the funding of obama care, but leader mcconnell led the way with attacking the strong conservatives that have been elected to go to washington. the ted cruises and rand paul's of the world.

will power get you $17 trillion in debt and obama care, then take your power and do whatever with it. i would rather have a junior leader that is going to the floor and fighting and standing for something than to have someone with power that doesn't do anything. the junior leader is the one that's leading and that's rand paul. >> we appreciate your time again. >> you're not going to ask me about georgia? >> we don't have time. we should have booked 15 minutes for you. we should note that you did not predict a matt bevin victory on tuesday. >> listen, we're conservatives, we're going to take back the senate. >> but knot a matt bevin victory. amy, thank you. i also didn't get to ask why you left the tea party express but we'll save it for next time. still to come, trending this minute, the story behind this dramatic fallout at a boston subway station. 60 years since the brown versus

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welcome back. once again we scoured the internet and here is what's trending this minute. may the forest be with you. friday was day one of filming for "star wars episode 7." it was announced on twitter using the hashtag day one. and good samaritans had to come to the rescue in boston. you see on the left side of your screen, crazy surveillance footage. she was taken to the hospital to get checked out. she is apparently okay this afternoon. and a list of the most popular baby names is out. in, oah tops the list, for girls it's sophia. this is the first time since 1960 that a name other than

mooi michael or jacob did not top the list for boys. thanks to game of thrones. >> a update now on the story we were tracking here. the death toll in that deadly pli mining disaster in turkey. turkish police practically put one town on lock down after local protests continued. coming up, a young girl killed over her iphone. i will talk to the father that wants cell phone makers to install an app that could have saved her life.

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breaking news to tell you about right now. the cdc confirmed that an illinois man tested positive for the mers virus. the third case in the united states this month now. he apparently had close contact with a patient in indiana who previously tested positive. doctors are monitoring his condition. he is said to be feeling well. before today there was two cases of the middle east respiratory syndrome. it's a respiratory infection that can be deadly. so breaking news there. other news on this saturday afternoon. in. south america there is an treatment on the way to stop the illegal gun trade. the rebel group is asking farmers to grow things other

than the plant that makes cocaine. and no deal for donald sterling. he is reportedly refusing to pay that $2.5 million fine that was imposed on him by the nba. he was also banned for life when sterling made racist remarks. a long time housing activist has been named the head of the naacp. the former president resigned last year. today marks 60 years since the supreme court's landmark decision brown verse the board of education in topeka, kansas. it ordered an end to state sanctioned segregation. it said we conclude that the field of public education the doctrine of separate but equal has no place.

that was may 17th in 1954. in topeka last night, michelle obama told graduating high school seniors the struggle for equality is far from over. >> so today, but some measures, our schools are as segregated as they were back when dr. king gave his final speech. as a result. many young people in america are going to school, largely with kids that look just like them. and too often, those schools are not equal. especially ones attended by students of color that too often lag behind. >> we want to bring in jolene hunter. and ron allen is also here. let me start with you. i want to get to what happened in georgia many years ago. let's start with how far we have come in terms of desegregation

in this country. what's your take? >> i love what the first lady had to say because there is so many promises that brown made that have not been kept. but i think we also have to balance that out with the promises that have been kept. the brown decision, as governor wilder said yesterday at a panel i attended, was like a joan lewis fight. and it raised everybody's expectations and it helping african-americans realize this was a country where their dreams could come true. there was many, many positives. for example, what the first lady just said is absolutely true, but we have more black college graduates than ever. we have more segregated schools. we have challenges for affirmative action. but i think we have to continue to balance the promise of brown so that we continue the positive

aspects as well as the challenges that we have yet to face and confront. >> as you know there was a report that came out this week that the headline is fairly simple, segregation is back in america's schools and has been for some time. there is a new study that found that schools in the south have become increasingly more segregated in the last few decades. the percentage of black students dropped from a high of 43%? 1988, now, as you see there, 23% in 2011. the problem in the north eastern part of this country is markedly worse when you look at the numbers. what is behind those numbers? what policies? what are some of the things that -- >> a couple things. i think opportunity has always been limited. and in my case, i grew up in the northeast and i went to public

schools in new jersey, across the river. there was a program called open enrollment that allowed me to go to a jewish school, and it made a big difference for me. i have gone to college graduation reunion at the university of pends later this afternoon, a great school. so those were opportunities that were available to me then, that i think are, in some ways, more limited now. in public schools, i think a lot of it is economic and social. most public school systems are funded based on property taxes. america's neighborhoods are segregated. where i live now, it's a great school system, newark, next door with not nearly the property tax, they're under state control.

so a lot of it, that is a heavily black and latino community. that made the difference. a lot of it is social and economic as well. now there is a lot of resistance to programs that encourage diversity. we hear it from the supreme court every day now. >> take us back to the early 60s when you were a trailblazer down in georgia. what was it like to integrate back then. >> it was the realization of my dream. it never occurred to me there was students outside singing two, four, six, eight, we don't want to integrate. bricks thrown at my window. and one night i was suspended for my own safety because there was a riot. but what kept me going was my dream to keep going and to sit here with you and to travel to the whorizons. you know the promise of brown

was primarily aimed at ending inequality. i think it was also aimed at creating a more just society and more perfect union. and to the extent that we're not there yet, everybody is victimized by it. in a few years, the majority today is going to be the minority and people of color are going to be in the majority. so if what ron just said is the case, how are we going to work at a more perfect union if our leaders are these young kids not being properly educated. >> always good to see you my friend. thank you both for your insight on this. >> thank you for having us. another developing story we want to the tell you about right now ot baut of baltimore's inne harbor. two boats have caught fire there. one woman was trapped on board

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it can be useless if it is lost or stolen. they are cutting the rash of phone thefts. more than double from the year before. that's according to a survey by consumer reports. some of those smart phone thefts have had deadly consequences. megan was shot to death for her iphone as she sat in her car in 2012. minnesota's law and other action come too late to help your daughter. tell us about what happened to her that night. >> megan was in st. louis for an alumni game with her volleyball team, and it was 2:00 in the afternoon. a beautiful day, and she was on her cell phone with her mother going to her car as she was about to drive to the game. when someone came and confronted her as she was getting in her

car, we don't know exactly what happened but we do know that he shot her quite, and my poor daughter was killed. >> and ever since, you have been on a crusade to talk about these kill switches. tell us what they are and why more cell phone makers have not installed them. >> well, the idea of a kill switch is that when you lose your phone, if it is stolen, that you can take some action to render it inoperable. apple developed software that comes close to meeting the standards that we're talking about. we know it's possible to do this. we're not sure why the cell phone makers did not embrace this right away. there are so many people walking

down the street, using them, and they're vulnerable. 3.1 million people had their cell phones stolen in the last year. and it's not just megan. there is a man? seattle recently that was shot and killed. a young man in new york that was beaten. a woman pushed down the stairs at an l stop here in chicago. it's an important public safety issue. >> and your daughter was someone who was killed for their smart phone. >> right. there is a significant market out there. and this is something i was not aware of when this happened to me megan. people steal them and sell them to people who repackage them and sell them overseas. what we're trying to do is get this kill switch installed.

if you steal one, it will be inoperable and as valuable as a brick. >> i have seen numbers, i read information about just how much cell phone companies make. off of phones that have to be replaced or repaired as a result of this, no? >> if you think about what happens, if you do not have insurance, and you go in, and your two years have not expired since you bought your last cell phone, it's $500 to $700 for your new cell phone. if that happens to a million people, you can do the math. it's a lot of revenue for those manufacturers. and the cost of insurance is very expensive. people are getting hit by this financially. >> thank you for your time and i'm sorry for your loss. >> thank you very much. coming up, information on the riding star in the

democratic party. we have details on julian castro. and the glass ceiling. we considered, the brain trust will join me after the break.

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as we have been reporting, government sources say that president obama will name julian castro as the secretary of urban housing and development. that announcement set to come in a week or two. elizabeth plank is executive social editor. bob franken, and mercedes schlap. good to see all of you. mercedes, let me start with you down there. new details from this government source. julian castro still being vetted by the fbi.

assuming there are no glitches, an announcement will be coming in a week or two. a source says that the president is picking castro because of his strong and because it's important for the president to have a cabinet that reflects america. what will this do for the white house? what will this do for your party as well, mercedes? >> not much because as we know the secretary of hud is generally not one that has high visibility. you have to consider that obviously castro is a rising star in the democratic a party. he would have been a much more interesting vice presidential pick in the future, so it's going to see how his career kind of unveils itself, especially if he takes the position. but again, it's always one of those positions that it ends up being an african-american or a hispanic. it's not like the department of treasury or the department of commerce or even the department of state which is a little more of a high level position in the

administration. >> are you saying that the hud secretary is a throw away job? >> when you rank them, you definitely when you're talking about secretary of defense, secretary of treasury, those are definitely more high profile jobs than it is hud. hud usually ends up becoming one of the department of labor where it's not considered to be one of the more important top jobs. >> how much of this is about raising castro's profile so that if he is number two on a ticket in 2016 folks aren't like, who is julian castro? >> i think it's very important to take into consideration that he is representing sort of an ethnicity we're not used to seeing. it's going to be a huge issue for every voter. we're not used to seeing these kinds of people. >> being hispanics? >> these kinds of people at this level.

>> secretary martinez was secretary of hud. >> bob, has the secretary of hud, has that become a position for black and brown people? >> well, there are some arguments that would suggest that. and the other thing that we have to sort of factor in here is the political calculation that we have a presidential election coming up. and if it was a woman at the top of the ticket and hispanic in the number two spot, that would be a really formidable ticket. >> are you suggesting a clinton/castro ticket? >> i suspect that there will be any number of people suggesting just that. >> as long as we're talking 2016, thank you for the segue, bob, hillary clinton -- >> i'm here to serve. >> hillary clinton on "the view" earlier this week. it was the farewell to barbara walters. listen to this exchange. check this out.

>> the question i want to ask is are you going to run? >> i am running around the park. >> she has in just about every, way, form, and fashion avoided answering that question. has she started to be a little too coy about a possible candidacy u? why doesn't she just say if she's in or out? >> i think she wants to somehow keep it suspenseful. the ready for hillary pac is in place. it's raising millions of dollars. it has 2 million supporters. again, it's a bit too early to say, i'm going forward to run for president. >> why is it too early? >> when you look at the history of it, let's look at president obama. he declared his run in 2007,

february of 2007. normally what we're starting to see is they declare they are going to run by the end of this year or the beginning of next year. and that's why i think there's kind of this wait. and there is a factor here. she's out every day. there's a chance we're going to start seeing hillary fatigue sooner rather than later. people are going to start getting tired of seeing her. she should take a vacation. >> i think there's a fatigue about people telling us there's a fatigue. karl rove making comments about her brain or how old she is. it's actually riling up people even more to see these sort of sexist attacks on her -- on her ability to lead. especially when we look at what's happening in the news right now with jill abramson with her being fired. people are very excited about hillary running. >> bob, you were going to say something there. >> i think an awful lot of people are going to be

disappointed if she doesn't. i don't think it's a done deal. there was a recent article that made an interesting point, and that is, first of all, she's known o not have a particular fondness for the media and she would have to suffer a lot of us fools if she ran for president. she's had some very bitter experiences. i suspect it's 90% she's going to run. >> i want to talk about this issue about what karl rove said earlier with regards to mrs. clinton's brain, karl rove raising that issue. "the new york post" reporting 30 days in the hospital and when she reappears she's wearing glasses that are only for people that have traumatic brain injury. we need to know what's up with that. rove ended up on fox news trying to clarify. take a listen to that explanation.

>> we have a problem with that clip there. he went on to try to clarify. i don't even have the transcription in front of me. was rove out of line? is mrs. clinton's health fair game? >> i think karl really misstepped this one. i think that for him, obviously, he's been a political strategist for a long time. there's really no reason to go there. i think in -- >> but here's the thing. you know this. he's a guy who has been around the game a long time. >> that's rugt. >> you don't make mistakes like that. what was the goal there? >> there is that argument that this was a political calculation. i really believe it was a miscalculation. i think there's a sensitivity towards age, towards sexism, especially when it comes to potential women in political power, that you need -- that med to be careful in how far they go. and i think he made an error

when it came to this comment about hillary clinton giving them ammunition to come out so that clinton can say, my wife is totally fine. >> we're out of time. a big thanks to all of you. thank you as well for watching. i'll see you back here tomorrow at 3:00 eastern. right now, "disrupt" with karen finney. >> hey, craig. i'm going to have more on the feud between my former boss and karl rove. and on the 60th anniversary of brown v. education. a 6-year-old girl escorted by u.s. marbles into an all white school. we have that and a lot more coming up. we're a family. we're right where you need us. at the next job, next adventure or at the next exit helping you explore super destinations and do everything under the sun. 12 brands. more hotels than anyone else in the world. so wherever you want to be, whatever you want to do,

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