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any facility. >> u.s. is deploying dozens of military personnel to find the kidnapped girls in nigeria. >> the girls have been missing for more than a month with no new leads. >> house democrats say their role in the new benghazi committee as a defense team. >> i think the main role for democrats is to make sure this committee doesn't become a circus. >> chaos is taking hold weeks ahead of the world cup. a shocking scene of a dangerously crowded subway station, raising concern about their ability to accommodate the tens and thousands set to attend the games. does a strong united front for china and russia sound like a good thing to the world for you? start considering that question. the obama administration
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famously promised to pivot to the east but russia may be beating us to it. russian president vladimir putin announced a deal to export gas to china. jinping looked jazzed too. look at them there doing shots. why does this matter to the u.s.? it's a big game changer and flies in the face of president obama's efforts to isolate russia. as putin loyalists say one of the targets of those ukraine, obama should abandon the policy of isolating russia. it will not work. and reinforgss china's own rise as an energy consumer that will stop at nothing to meet the demands of its swelling economy. how is that going to change the global landscape? here to take a look is ian bremmer. pleasure to have you back on the
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show. >> good to see you. >> how does this alliance impact america's ability isolate will russia? >> the europeans aren't even with us on this. >> europe still is the biggest buyer of russian oil. >> russian gas by a large margin, even with the new chinese deal. but this is a $400 billion 20-year deal it is landmark. it is historic. the chinese are the largest purchaser -- largest purchasers of their weapons around the world comes from russia. it's 64% of all purchases high technology. there's a lot of interest in agriculture and land cooperation. if you think of the organizations the u.s. is pursuing. the g-7 and trans atlantic deal with europeans, these organizations nato, russia is not a part of them and china is not a part of them. when we talk about isolating
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russia, what we're really doing is pushing russians in a direction that's very problematic for us. it is a failed policy. >> another way in which this alliance flies in the face something america is trying to push is on environmental policy, you mentioned it is exactly right, gas and not oil. how does this impact china's growing role in the global environment? >> china has -- >> they are a big coal burner as well. there's some hope it could be a positive because it is gas which is some better. >> if you think of how much energy china needs, they were very recently like 50% of our carbon emissions and now almost double. >> biggest coal burner in the world. >> in the world. >> as much as rest of the worpu together. >> put together. they are the largest builder of new nuclear plants and larger builder on solar and wind. everything out there, they are doing. so from a good news perspective, one of the things that's going to drive the world towards using
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more renewables will be technologies that are produced in china. but from a bad news perspective, 1.3 billion chinese growing at 7 plus percent a year are the ones that are going to be most quickly moving climate change and the russian deal doesn't affect that. >> so how does this affect america's tense relationship with china itself? there's a lot of ways in which for all of this huge energy demands, it turns to countries that are much more in u.s. control than their control. they have to get through the straight strait of hormuz. does this help them move from the parts of the world that the u.s. has its old school military control over? >> it will. one of the things it does, it moves away from the reliance of the dollar, this is going to be locally denominated. there's another big deal people aren't talking about, helps the
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russians avoid sanctions but also -- >> further pushes america to the sidelines. >> we are the largest economy by a very large margin. one of the reasons why the chinese are going to places like the middle east is because the americans, we don't need the middle east the way we did for energy. it's as if it's a bad story economically but streakally if we're suddenly seeing russians and chinese coordinating and flouting america's desires on ukraine and other -- >> let's look at the extent of that coordination. we have a map here that the "washington post" put together showing exactly how this deal works. and you see there it's pretty extensive, blue lines show the pipes that already complete the other lines are in the works. there's a lot of progress still to come. who gets the better end of this deal? >> china by a very long margin. russian and chinese have worked on this deal for over a decade. who do you think budged on price? do you think it was putin or xi
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jinping. >> they are not disclosing the exact price. >> they are not and not disclosing how much is being spent on pt pipeline and how much the chinese are or aren't paying in advance as opposed to lat later. it is very clear, i bet an awful lot, that the chinese got an extraordinary value because they are giving russians what they want politically, the chinese are not sanctioning but doing much more. as a consequence the russians are getting a bad deal economically. long term the trajectory is horrible and long term china is the single biggest winner. >> and more towards being single resource based. they are not diversifying. gives russia a bill political piece of ammunition to use against the united states but there are hidden cost and it's not totally rosie. >> china is the big winner. >> ian, appreciate it. up next, eric shinseki is back
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the president is standing by embattled secretary shinseki. today he faces off against the rest of the washington and they are not so happy. take a listen to some audio of what the senator said we can expect. >> general shinseki, i'm going to put him on the spot to tell me what he's done in the six years and where we are, from where we stand right now and what we've heard, unacceptable. >> the rest of congress isn't sitting on its laurels.
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house overwhelmingly approved the va accountability act, 390 to 33. it will give shinseki more power to discipline or remove 450 career employees across the va. at the heart of the scandal is the hospital in phoenix, with hidden wait list and data tampering. that's where nabors is today. it's one of the 26 va facilities being investigated. a lot of anger and a lot of political machinations can it actually secure better treatment standards for our vets. luke, give us a quick overview of what we can expect from current meetings on the hill? >> the house veteran affairs committee met this morning it was and it was the chairman mr. miller's desire to have three top va officials directly involved with how the va is run and operated to come today. they said they didn't have time
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today. he moved to subpoena them. we did hear heated comments from both democrats and republicans about the va, take a listen. >> i have been on this committee for 22 years and it has been a problem for 22 years. it didn't matter who was in charge. >> we're deadly serious in a bipartisan way to do our due diligence and get to the bottom and find the truth. >> this is about life and death. that's what we're talking about. >> reporter: other emotional moments, john boehner actually broke down and started crying about the veterans va scandal, sort of saying that we are leaving our men and women who fought so val yantly for us to die. he also expressed a lack of confidence in the inspector general's investigation of the va and would prefer congress to carry out a more truthful and honest investigation, hopefully by the house veterans affairs
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committee, meeting with durbin today and durbin said he's going to put him on the spot. i foresee moving forward you're going to see a large scale bipartisan outrage. and going to see investigative committees all throughout the summer really get at the heart of what is wrong with the va. honestly, they don't have a lot to do legislatively and this works well for both sides and very important, everyone supports veterans and likes veterans. expect them to go after this and get to the root of these problems which have been around for a long, long time, way before you and i were ever born, my friend. >> we appreciate you're keeping an eye on this for us. it seems it's appropriate for speaker boehner to be crying, a lot of tears across the country because of this. the echo for president obama to take more action is growing, that's now extended to kentucky senate democratic candidate allison grimes running against mitch mcconnell.
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she just called for shinseki's resignation as veterans are enmass around the country joining the call. one person is daniel dellinger, national commander of the american legion. called on secretary shinseki to step down in the past. you heard president obama wading in deep into the va crisis yesterday for first time. does that affect your call for shinseki to resign? >> no, it does not. the need for the secretary to resign has been the failed leadership and the oversight that he has failed with. this hasn't just started with phoenix. phoenix was the last straw. what we heard last week during the testimony in the senate was that there was a memorandum back in 2010, so four years he had the opportunity to fix the problem and has not done it. >> didn't the president take a proactive appropriate in owning
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up to the fact that this is a long term systemic problem? is that seemed to be the angle he was stressing. >> it is in a way but he's also known this because from what we understand, what i've heard in the media is that he was -- his campaign was made aware of this before he came in office. he's been in office, in his second term now. he should be proactive. instead of being reactive. it seems like -- and i heard that he learned about phoenix from the news. >> you know, one thing that the president did highlight was the enormity of the scope of the va health obligations across the country. there were 21.2 military veterans in need of care. is the president doing enough to protect them do you think? >> we don't think he is at this point. we want him to step up and step up fast. and instead of him waiting three weeks to put out a statement like this, you know, he says we
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have to wait for the ig. there's been over 50 ig reports on these subjects -- >> it does have to be said in the president's defense that he said wait for the investigation and there are tangible steps we can take to protect veterans right now without waiting. was that something that was encouraging to you? >> it was encouraging. my question is what are those steps? what has been put in place in the last three weeks to stop what's been happening for over four years? >> and white house chief of staff dennis mcdonough said the president is madder than hell, do you think his actions reflect that? >> i would have liked to have seen a little bit more. you know, we're mad. the veterans are mad in this country, we raise our hand and put the uniform on and told they would take care of us. they failed in that. we would expect for him to be mad and then some. >> all right, well a lot of people are that mad and then some all over the country. daniel dellinger, appreciate
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seriously our residents sports nuts on the team will have my head if i don't. and the united states is stepping up its role in the search for kidnapped girls in nigeria. right now, 80 u.s. troops begun to arrive in western africa. most are air force personnel being stationed in chad because it's a safer operating base and because analysts believe that boko haram, the islamist group that abducted the girls back in april is holding the girls captive at various locations across the nation. that's a sizable amount of territory, about the size of west virginia. a lot is comprised of dense hard to search jungle territory. bill neely has been tracking electric from abuja. >> as the u.s. deepens its involvement in the hunt to find the girls, it is a day of protest here in nigeria. all schools closed across the
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country, teachers protesting the lack of progress in finding the girls and also protesting the attacks of the terror group boko haram. they are targets, more than 170 teachers have been killed by boko haram. remember the terror group targets schools it believes girls should not be educated in the first place. it believes boys are legitimate targets and that they have a right to kill them and of course it does kill teachers. also today a big protest here in the capital as hundreds march on the president's office. they say he's just not doing enough in the hunt for the girls. meanwhile, the u.s. has deepen the its commitment to find the girls a predator drone and 80 military personnel are now in the grounds in neighboring chad. the predator drone is unarmed, more planes may follow but the pentagon is stressing this isn't
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a deployment, not out to get boko haram, we're out to get the girls. meanwhile, the death toll from the horrific bombing has risen to more than 130 and one final footnote. may is now the deadliest month since the boek co-har ram campaign began five years ago with more than 450 people killed and the government seemingly powerless to fight them. back to you. >> thanks to bill neely. a new rule that may wipe out abortion clinics in your state. stay with us. i missed you, too.ou. hi buddy.
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back in 1973, roev. wade made it unconstitutional to ban abortions and now across the country that's changing, on the brink of wiping out most of their abortion facilities, louisiana state legislature requires doctors who perform abortions to have admitting privileges at the neighbor hospitals, because there aren't hospitals near the facilities and doctors with admitting privileges, that could reportedly close up to four of the state's five functional abortion clinics, bobby jindal supports the proposal and has indicated that he's going to sign it into law. he tweeted, looking forward to signing hb 388 by state representative katrina jackson. the bill will give women the health and safety protections they deserve and katrina jackson is a democrat and of course yusly a woman.
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louisiana joins alabama and mississippi and texas, all states that have advanced the same same technique in cracking down on abortions. oklahoma appears poised to do the same next. more than 40 abortion clinics have already been closed or could close. this could affect more than 8.5 million women in these five states. joining me now is elise hoeg, the president of pro-choice america. >> thank you for having me. >> let's talk about what kind of tangible changes this could make in women's lives. i was struck by the amount of distance it takes to get to remaining facilities, they could have to drive 150 miles or more to get to abortion clinics, doesn't that deny access all together? >> absolutely it does deny access. i want to make one point very
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clear, everybody, most of all, doctors are concerned about women's health and safety. and clinics already adhere to all of the regulations required to make sure women are safe. the reason that medical experts are lined up against these laws is because they are not actually medically necessary. they are actually driven by politicians who have no medical expertise at all and in fact part of an incremental strategy that even tonya britain admitted has one singular goal, to eradicate abortions, the 2011 clinic closures resulted in 7% of women needing abortion care saying that they attempted to self-abort before they ever could get to a clinic. we know where the road goes, it's very dangerous and leads to
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actually women hurting themselves and women dying. and most americans do not want to go back there. >> there's a negative consequence to just less access to care. isn't there a rationale, legitimate one for ensuring these higher health care standards that admitting privileges should allow. shouldn't doctors when things go wrong be able to bring their patients to a real medical facility? >> abortion is one of the most safe procedures that's out there. the center for disease control reports that less than 1% of procedures ever require any kind of emergency care. and the doctors already have plans for emergency care. they do not require admitting privileges for emergency cases to go to hospitals. in fact, these admitting privileges are just business relationships between hospitals and the doctors themselves. and a lot of the hospitals are being driven by ideology or political pressure, not to certificate these doctors and has nothing to do with the
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doctor's credentials but everything to do with making abortion hard if not impossible for women to access. >> it is true that the american medical association did say there is quote no medical basis to requiring abortion providers local hospital admitting privileges. so it does seem like the medical profession has weighed in on this on one side more than the other. it is still a complicated debate. there are real health concerns. let's talk about the legal concerns though. you have invoked roe v wade, it also says that that right has to be balanced against state interest in regulating abortions, especially protecting the health of mothers. isn't that just what these states are doing? >> no, in fact, what the provision states is that the balance has to be against undue burden of women who seek their constitutional right to terminate unintended pregnancy.
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and what we're seeing, you've mentioned that women in the rio grande have to travel 150 miles. actually if these clinics in louisiana close, you're looking at new orleans women having to travel 300 miles to access safe care. the states have a responsibility to weigh the damage that that potentially inflicts on women who need this health care versus what is allowable under undue burden. that's one of the reasons that we actually are out there promoting the federal legislation and women's health protection act which says every woman in the country has a constitutional right to access this health care, regardless of their geography. with the laws sweeping the south, that is becoming unrealistic and roe is being over -- overturned not legally, but actually systemically in the state legislatures. >> as this continues to sweep the south, clearly this fight is only going to get more intense.
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we'll stay with this story. appreciate your joining. >> thank you. >> coming up, the benghazi committee is starting to make its voice heard but what should we and maybe more importantly hillary clinton be listening for? our political panel is going to weigh in right up ahead. predicting the future is a pretty difficult thing to do. but, manufacturing in the united states means advanced technology. we learned that technology allows us to be craft oriented. no one's losing their job. there's no beer robot that has suddenly chased them out. the technology is actually creating new jobs. siemens designed and built the right tools and resources to get the job done.
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the gap begins to close. so let's simplify things. let's close the gap between people and care. ♪ guess which shady political operatives could be derailing productive conversation about the benghazi attacks. if you said republicans you may be wrong. there are new the committee everybody is warning could be a circus. this time it is about the democrats involved. house minority leader nancy pelosi appointed five dems to the committee. after weeks of internal debate over whether they should boycott the panel all together. politico is reporting, there is outside pressure on who ultimately told the democrats to participate. quote, hillary clinton's world was so worried about a
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republican investigation of the ben benghazi, they sentd a message, we need backup. a backchannel campaign was launched to say they prefer democrats participate. this is all allegedly anonymous sourcing going on here. adam schiff is among those appointed to the committee. he had strong thoughts on this for chris jansing. >> i'll ask you bluntly is is the main role to protect hillary clinton? >> no, i think the main role for democrats is to make sure this committee doesn't become a circus and mere fund raising vehicle for the gop. >> kind of a dodge. anyway, house speaker john boehner weighed in as well and told everyone to just cool their jets a legal bit and not expect anything from any of these people anytime soon. >> i wouldn't be expecting you're going to see a lot very soon. both democrats and republicans
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have to hire staff and the committees require to turn over their committee records to the select committee. they are going to have to time -- have time to go through all of those documents. they are going to have to decide what do we know and what don't we know. then figure out how to go get it. it's -- it's going to be a while before we see a whole lot here. >> fine point, speaker boehner but we're going to talk about it now anyway. joining me are robert trayhnum and karen finney, former communicator for dnc. pleasure to have you both here. i'll start with you, robert, do you buy this politico story about hillary clinton's team calling the shots? >> well, it seems to probably be a little truth to the story that they are a little concerned because they want to protect
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their boss and make sure there's a democratic voice on the republican committee. i think it's great. i think it's great for transparency sake and let's remind everyone here, you know this better than anyone else, four americans died. and we still don't know all of the specific answers here. what we do know is those quote -- unquote talking points -- >> karen is making faces at you. >> karen? >> we know exactly what happened. we know all of the facts. even, what we have now is people leading this effort saying we don't know what we don't know but we're going to go find it as if to say we're going to go on the witch hunt no matter what you say. >> this is ultimately a good thing, whether there is any intimation on what should be on the committee for hillary clinton's camp, no way to verify that. the idea of having bipartisanship on this kind of committee is a strong one. >> i agree with that. look, i think this hillary story is silly. people who consider themselves
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hillary confident doesn't mean they have nothianything to do w what's going on. i do think it is the right decision to have bipartisanship on the committee. >> hillary aside, the democrats aappointed to the committee essentially all have said they already think it's a huge waste of time and money. take a look at this quote, with house minority leader nancy pelosi's appointment of five highly partisan members to the select committee, the democrats have signaled that not only do they want to make sure the hearings are a waste of time but they'll do everything they can to make sure the hearings are a circus. this is from the boston globe. if this thing does devofl into a circus -- the boston herald, how much of that is the dems' fault? >> it's no question this is going to devolve into a circus, i don't think it's going to be the democrats fault. at the end of the congressional
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session, john boehner is going to look the american people in the eye, we didn't have time to do unemployment insurance and minimum wage. we had time to do more benghazi hearings even though it's already been adjudicated many, many times. i think the very fact of its existence is the circus. >> any way in which -- robert, is there a single tangible result we can expect from this new committee? >> absolutely. a couple of things, number one, some answers for the four families and their victims, that's number one. >> the scores of prior hearings accomplished that? >> it's the role to have congressional oversight and role of the congress to have checks and balances with the executive branch. we also know as i was trying to say a few moments ago, ambassador rice did have talking points that krik what the white house press secretary said at the time. we also know that the talking points may suggest that perhaps
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this has something to do with policy. therefore rereserve the right to ask the questions and try to get answers -- >> that is certainly an admirable goal but the concern comes in when there have been 13, 14 hearings on the subject and 25,000 pages of documents produced and they seem to have come up empty or produced all of the knowledge we are going to have about this. >> if that was the case -- >> that he may be the case here. >> it is a valid concern why are hillary confidents pushing for -- >> you don't know that's true, robert. i know you love that narrative but we don't know that's actually true. >> didn't deny it. >> we know which republicans are on the committee. and we heard about the democrats. who are the seven gop members and why were they specifically selected? >> i'm surmising, they appear to be thoughtful but aggressive. i get the impression that they
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have at least some type of legal background and appear to be -- let me go back to this, to be thoughtful in the sense this is not about politics although it will be injected, it is about trying to ask the tough questions and trying to get the right answers from the administration although the administration doesn't want that, that's the role of the congress. i think speaker boehner selected these individuals because they are going to be fair but also very tough. >> well, before both of you jump in, i can see wire raring for a bite on this. to the extent that there is a political element to this, obviously we just wrapped the super tuesday primaries. ca do you think voters have cared? >> what it has had it's a good fund raising tool. you've seen many republican memos -- >> we've seen the memos go out. >> this is about for them keeping the core of their base that they must have turnout in november engage. robert, to your point, one thing i would say, two of the family members have asked we not go
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through this. one of the things that we actually know is that a republican house member was the one who outed a cia installation that was supposed to be kept secret. i don't think we can trust the republicans to do this in a respectful and honest way. we should honor what the families have asked for. >> it's happening now regardless, we share robert's home that something productive comes out of it. it is reefing a critical mass of preinvestigations. appreciate both of you being here. you can catch more of karen on her show "disrupt" every single weekend. from sea to shining sea, same-sex marriage draws the attention of states around this country. and somehow -- of complete darkness. i am totally blind.
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do you take cameron to be your husband? >> i do. >> then by the powers vested in me by the state of california, i am privileged to pronounce you spouses for life. you may now kiss your husband. >> i don't watch a lot of nonnews tv but i'm told there was a big old gay wedding on "modern family" and everybody loved it. it is a big week for real life marriage equality. oregon and pennsylvania became the 18th and 19th states to recognize same-sex marriage. pennsylvania, the entire northeast now allows same sex unions and montana is becoming the latest over the fight for marriage equality. four gay couples filed a lawsuit against the same-sex marriage ban. that leaves just north dakota and south dakota as the only two states with gay marriage bans and no lawsuits seeking to overturn. what's up? just commitmentphobic?
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i feel you, actually. founder of freedom to marry and richard socarides, former adviser on gay rights and activist and writer for "the new yorker." pennsylvania is the latest of a strink of marriage equality victories at the state level. is this bottom up state based approach the best way or should activists be pushing for an constitutional amendment? >> certainly not for a constitutional amendment because almost 20 judges have said, the constitution already guarantees equal protection under the law and freedom to marry. there is no good reason for denying that. the strategy has always been to build toward a supreme court ruling that will bring the entire country to national resolution, freedom to marry strategy. history tells us that just hiring a lawyer and going to court and just being right are not enough. what you need to do is build a critical mass of states and critical mass of support to
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create the climate for the victory. that's what we're doing. what we're seeing now is we have reached that critical mass and america is ready for the victory that will bring this joy to everyone across the country. >> richard, do you agree that a state-based approach is appropriate right now? >> well, what we've seen recently is almost a tidal wave of decisions out of the federal courts in various states since the supreme court's ruling in the windsor case, which has proven now to be very important. and we haven't gotten the supreme court ruling yet that evan talks about, but it almost seems like now we may not need one. i think we probably will need one. but every state since the supreme court's ruling in the windsor case has -- every ruling has gone for -- in a positive way for gay marriage. so it's really been remarkable and faster than even we thought it would be. >> it seems like this was once a very contentious dispute whether
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you go top down or bottom up. it seems now the lines are converging and there's progress regardless. evan? >> undeniable progress. we have not only a 59% major majority, but major support in every region of the country. and it continues to grow. i want to disagree a bit with my friend richard. we absolutely do need a supreme court ruling. because every day of denial is a painful and real denial for families. and families should not have to fight state by state, couple by couple, year by year, battle by battle for the supreme court to bring this nationwide. what we're doing is creating the climate for that victory. that's what we need to keep doing. we can't just leave it to the courts. >> let's talk about one area where it may be necessary to go to a federal solution. this issue of news on this recently. a federal court in idaho, actually, just ruled that
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they're not going to recognize any same-sex marriages, even out-of-state ones. do you think that's something that requires federal action? >> that violates the same constitutional guarantees that are at issue which is, basically, you can't treat gay couples, gay couples married or non-guy couples. that's what the constitution says. what's really at the core of all of this is, it's time to end the gay exception and to tree gay couples who are making that commitment in life with the same commitment under the law. that commitment is called marriage. and marriage should be respected no matter what state you're in. >> richard, let's talk about how the politics are changing. pennsylvania's governor stood by it, didn't protest it. change happened in his state. that is a model set by chris christie who did the same thing last year. do you think that's the new normal for how republicans approach this? >> i think it was remarkable that a republican governor
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decided not to appeal this decision. and tom corbett said he opposed same-sex marriage but wasn't going to appeal the decision because he saw where it was headed. i certainly didn't mean to say we didn't need a supreme court decision, i do think we need a supreme court decision. i think exactly the strategy that evan outlined has been very successful, to work state by state, and make progress in each state. but also fight hard for a supreme court decision that will finally give us a uniform act. >> one last question on that difference of approach within the gay rights movement. evan, we recently interviewed joe becker about her book, which has come under a lot of fire, because hrc had chad griffin as sort of the originator of the gay rights movement. many cut out a huge swath of people who got there first maybe. do you think criticism of that book has been fair? >> i think this is more important than a book or any one person or any one organization.
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this movement has been working the freedom to marry with many organizations, many battles, many states, but with one strategy. the strategy is the strategy i outlined earlier. it's called the road map to victory. it's how history tells us we're going to win. it is how we're going to win if we all keep doing the work. >> so, you say it's bigger than a pobook. what did you think of that book? >> i will leave that to people like you who discuss it on air. and richard who have written about it. we're focused op the work. we're not done. we have a lot of work to do. we are winning, but winning is not yet won. let's keep doing the work. >> i would say that was a very diplomatic answer, showing a lot of leadership. >> appreciate you both joining us. that wraps things up for this edition of rfd. catch my show at 1:00 p.m. eastern time. joy, on bended knee, i ask, what do you have coming up?
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good afternoon, readers. welcome to "the reid report." i'm joy reid. are you ready for the summer of benghazi. >> it's hard to see what the purpose is of dragging this on. >> they're going to have to decide what do we know and what don't we know. >> we do believe it's probably a witch hunt. a mere fund-raising vehicle for the gop. >> somebody has to be the defender of the truth. >> we will fight them. >> republicans and media friends hope to keep the controversy front and center right through the november elections. democrats may have handed over the ammunition to do just that. what's the strategy on the dem side? i'll talk to one of the democrats who was named to the now bipartisan house select committee. plus -- >> they didn't seem to care.
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i really wasn't comfortable going there. i know how it should work. and it wasn't working. >> what will it take to fix the mess at veterans affairs? many in the past have tried and failed. it is time for a new plan to help america's war heroes. and will more u.s. involvement in nigeria help find the lost girls? the race to find them intensifies, as the group behind the mass kidnappings ratchets up their terror campaign. but first, with the house democrat decisions to join a select panel on agabenghazi, it could be the summer of benghazi. discussions with speaker john boehner went absolutely nowhere. house minority leader nancy pelosi decided if you can't beat them, you might as well keep an eye on them. elijah cummings will take the lead along with four other democrats appointed to the committee. adam smith, tammy duckworth and
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