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tomorrow. "the ed show" is coming up next. welcome live from new york. big oil and big lies. i'm ready to go. let's get to work. leaking tank repaired with duct tape and a garbage bag. >> rather than leaving the fluid to drip on the ground. >> stash away the duct tape. >> you took a picture of someone who was -- >> houston, what do we do? >> we take a garbage bag and fix it and keep it from leaking and you are still unhappy. >> i'm helping. >> some guy took initiative. >> anybody can come, a storm can come, can punch in a garbage bag. >> i love the great outdoors. >> that is oil. >> i am not giving weapons to shoot back at.
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>> can't get fish from the gulf for fear of contamination. >> may not be fixed the way you want it. >> good to have you with us tonight. thanks for watching. ever wonder what would the republicans do without duct tape. tonight we are going to prove you cannot trust republicans and you cannot trust big oil companies right in front of our eyes. these guys have no problem putting profit over people and the environment. this picture here was taken in a louisiana wild life refuge just a few months ago. notice it shows a plastic garbage bag being used to stop a leak from an oil pipe. how is that for innovation and technology? must have been short on pipe down there. this image shows duct tape being used to stop a leaky oil tank. that is good for johnny the
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local fix it guy. this is a wild life refuge in louisiana. activists rightfully outraged by the images. on tuesday environmental groups brought these pictures and images to washington, d.c. they were presented to the house natural resources. republican congressman vance mccalluster of louisiana is a big fan. >> do you know when the repairs were made? >> the garbage bag picture was taken just a couple of months ago. >> so you took a picture of someone who was innovative and rather than leaving the fluid to drip on the ground repaired it with duct tape and a garbage bag. you seem to be very upset about that. we are damned if we do and damned if we don't. we keep it from leaking and you are unhappy and come to washington, d.c. and testify
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before congress and are throwing fits because some guy took initiative. it aggravates me that the body of congress is wasted with somebody taking pictures of something that is fixed. you don't know if they found the best line of garbage bags. >> i tell you what they are the best garbage bags you ever seen and the tape is awful good. congressman, vance mccalluster, is this guy living on the moon? i would like to find another person who thinks garbage bag is safer than a new pipe. you would think this guy should be concerned about environments and also oil spills. you see, his home state was the site of the biggest oil spill in history. 210 million gallons of oil leaked over the course of 87 days when bp took it to
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america's environment. it exploded four years later and the gulf of mexico is still a controversial mess. i can't say it is a mess. it is a controversial mess because there are people who think it is okay. oil from the 2010 spill is still washing up in huge numbers. road trip. i got to go down there and see if there is any oil on the shore line. i want to see for myself. officials in louisiana have reported a 2,400% increase in oil from 2012 to 2013. wait a minute, now. the oil spill was four years ago and have seen increases from 2012 to 2013. this is what the shore line looks like. i would like to see that because there are people saying that is not happening. this is because bp and the coast guard, what they did is used a highly toxic chemical known as
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corexic. it sunk the oil to the bottom of the gulf. it happened in 2010. hbo's "vice" spoke to journalist who covered bp's use of the chemical at the time. >> it was really good at what bp was using it for to basically hide the amount of oil that bp released in the gulf of mexico. from a public health standpoint and workers' standpoint it was horrible. it was clear from the manual that the manufacturer gave to bp and they make it plain this is extremely toxic material. >> it is believed symptoms are caused by it. people down in louisiana say the oil is washing up on shore every day. >> i mean, the regular people see the oil every day, you know,
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but bp, they can't find it. the coast guard can't find it. every time we have a storm. every time we have bad weather oil is going to pop up because bp never picked it up. out of sight out of mind and leave us with the mess. >> bp is working on this thing called public opinion. they have spent hundreds of millions of dollars on an ad campaign trying to clean up the nightmare. they aren't helping the case by fighting claims from those who have suffered damage from the spill. bp is trying to weasel their way out of paying some claims to businesses in the gulf. they say some claims are not related to the spill. they originally expected to pay out $7.8 billion in claims and now it could be well over $9.2 billion. on monday the 5th circuit court in louisiana ruled against bp. bp said they will take it to the
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supreme court. a conservative supreme court, if it goes that far, i might add. it is funny considering they ran ads like this in 2013. >> they have already paid over $40 billion in fines and payments. they think, basically, that is enough. recently bp expanded pr campaign to attack business owners who are suing them. they put ads in newspapers attacking businesses. bp snagged this article in "bloomberg business week" that read how bp got screwed on gulf oil spill claims. points out bp got a favorable
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spot on "60 minutes". the overall tone of the piece was sympathetic to the oil company. >> to avoid decades of court battles and uncertainty bp agreed to a more lenient compensation program. now bp vice president says the oil giant is getting soaked by businesses with losses that are not linked to the spill. >> we are talking about a wireless phone company store that burned to the ground and shut down before the spill. an rv park owner that was foreclosed upon before the spill. and i love this one. a pontiac dealer who could no longer sell pontiacs because gm had discontinued the line before the spill. >> those are all real examples and people who actually got a check. >> those are all real examples and are frankly not exceptions but emblem attic of a far larger problem. there are more than 1,000 claims just like them. >> so what we should do is just
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enjoy more oil on our shrimp. we should point out "60 minutes" spoke to current claims administrator who said he is not committing fraud. they acknowledge bp lost in court two times but overall the piece was favorable to bp. bp caused the mess and need to take responsibility and fix it far more than what they are doing. we all know this is the way oil companies and republicans play ball. they want to build the pipeline, take the risk, make the money and say it is okay if something goes wrong. when something does go wrong they are quick to fight everybody they possibly can in court. they run away as fast as they can. what i'm saying here in all of this is this story is a long way from being over because the damage that has been done to the gulf is ireversable. we have never had a spill like
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this so damaging and never a cover up like this so damaging. what are the people seeing on the shore? why aren't we seeing the big-time media take scientists along the shore line and say can we put this on our shrimp tonight? tonight's question, does bp actually care about making things right in the gulf? text a for yes and b for no to 67622. we will bring you results later on in the show. for more let me bring in michael hillsic of the "l.a. times." tell us about bp's campaign to attack these businesses that are claiming a loss. in the story it said over $1,000 businesses have claimed things that they aren't rightfully owned to. what about that? >> here a corporate executive say something like that should
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raise questions in your mind. first of all, 1,000 businesses, there are more than 2,000 claims filed. bp has the ability to appeal any judgment by the claim's administrator. the fact of the matter is that bp set up this system. they agreed to the system. they knew there were going to be a few claims that were swept in that maybe didn't have much to do with the oil spill. they didn't want to go through all the litigation it would take to check every last claim. it was going to save money for bp and the community and get money out to the businesses that really were affected. and now bp has changed its tune. it has had this long ad campaign. it has gone to "business week" and "60 minutes" and court and now says it will go to supreme court because it has lost in every court it has taken the
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appeal to. >> is the fraud as rampant as bp is claiming? he put a number to it. he is making it sound like folks down there are getting while the getting is good and getting in line as best they can. has bp done enough -- do the people down there feel like they have done enough? >> i think the people down there are pretty frustrated because of bp's legal strategy all payments to businesses that are affected by this deal have been frozen. it is still under injunction. by appealing to the supreme court which is what bp said it would do, that will keep payments frozen until the court rules if it ever does rule. that is a lot of money, a billion dollars at least frozen in the pipeline that is not getting to the businesses that need it. >> clearly bp has got a pr campaign going on into the
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millions to try to sway public opinion and get out of this. >> that's right. what is remarkable about that is that you look at the "60 minutes" report they didn't check the thousands of claims. they said they tried to call a dozen claimants and didn't get a reply and assume that meant the claimants must be sheepish about claiming the money which is pretty unfair and not very competent. "60 minutes" hasn't checked the claims by bp. bp hasn't given the evidence to show it has a case. the judges who have looked at this have said bp you do not have a case. let me bring in "ring of fire" radio host. let me jump a little ahead. what if it goes to the supreme court? how do you feel about that? >> that is an interesting story because the story there is that
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skalia's son works for the law firm that represents bp. >> a little conflict of interest in front of the high court of america. >> worst than that, it is not just his son. it is aleto's son works for the same law firm. this is their family, their children being paid by bp. you know we are going to see everything we need to know about this supreme court majority. it will be a disaster for the supreme court if they choose not to do the decent thing and respectful thing and remove themselves from the case. this is their children making millions of dollars by way of the law firm that represents bp. this is a monstrous conflict. the conflict here is one that would ruin, destroy the credibility of the supreme court
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even worse. here is the next thing that will happen. what we are going to see is bp is going to file something with skalia because he is the gate keeper for issues coming out of the 5th circuit. if he chooses to stay on this case we are going to learn a lot about what this is about. this is not just skalia. it is aleto, too. the supreme court would normally not take a case like this. bp is saying our lawyers that we hired to negotiate the settlement were too damn stupid to understand what they signed. that is the defense. the defense is our lawyers, thousands of lawyers all over the country were so stupid that they didn't know what they were signing when they signed the agreement. so now skalia has to say that sounds like a good defense. i'm going to let you stay this proceeding.
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i'm going to let you prevent the 80,000 business owners who have been waiting for years from this corrupt, dismal company that frankly should have gotten the death penalty here. they should not be permitted to drill in the gulf at all. skalia has to decide am i going to stay on the case? >> tell me about corrects it. some of the workers, cleanup workers are coming forward sick. and the claim is that this corrects it put on there by bp and the coast guard, i might add, that pushed the stuff to the bottom and it is coming back up years later. >> they knew it was going to happen. they had seen all of the clinical data. they know it causes central nervous system. they know it causes symptoms similar to multiple sclerosis. >> was the coast guard involved in this? >> absolutely. they were absolutely involved.
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they wanted to make this go away so they could close this deal at $20 billion. that was part of it. the second part of it is a revolving door just like any other agency. you will find some of the same people that were so closely involved with bp, we are going to see them working for bp in years to come. it is the same thing we see all the time. >> we will stay on the story. that oil isn't going away anytime soon. remember to answer tonight's question. share your thoughts on twitter. we want to know what you think. a proposal to reduce the burden of student loan debt could spell victory for wisconsin democrats. they want it. the republicans don't. where are the kids on this? the rapid response panel weighs in on power of youth vote. the latest buzz, a truck full of honey bees overturns in delaware.
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are you type e*? time for trenders in our social media. this is where you can find us. you can check out we got ed. the ed show social media nation has decided we are reporting. here are trenders voted on by you. >> not the bees. >> the number three trender, bee afraid. >> honey bees all the buzz. >> free honey for everyone. >> a truck hauling 20 million bees overturned and the bees went everywhere. >> bees everywhere. >> a trucker's hive haul has delaware drivers buzzing. >> as the bees stung first responders bee keepers arrived as part of the removal plan.
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>> allergic to bees? >> me, too. >> keep the windows up. the number two trender, rocky roads. >> massive storms hit the denver area on wednesday afternoon. >> large hail blanketing much of the state of colorado. >> we've got hail. >> a super cell storm leaves inches of hail in the mile high city. >> the hail quarter size that shattered windows. >> in some cases in this parking lot the hail is eight inches to a foot deep. >> how is the weather up there? >> in today's top trender, not loving it. >> fast food workers arrested while demanding raises. >> organizers calling for increase in minimum wage to $15 an hour. >> their demonstration timed to coincide with the annual shareholder meeting. >> they rallied on mcdonald's
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property and were met with police in riot gear. >> the fight for fair wages heads to mcdonald's headquarters. >> we talked to other workers. >> mcdonald's is the leader of the industry. >> mcdonald's made $5.6 billion in profit. >> the chairman got $9.5 million in salary. >> they say we do work for you and are not going to live in poverty. >> joining us tonight senator debb debb debbie. mcdonald's ceo says the company pays fair competitive wamgs. we have seen and documented on this program the profits out there by these corporations that have exorbant executive salaries and employees on public
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assistance. what is wrong with this picture? >> well, ed, you are absolutely right. first of all, this is about a fight for america for the middle class people trying to get into the middle class. this case people are working 40 hours a week and still aren't above the poverty line. they are just asking for a fair shot to be able to get ahead. when you put this together right now if you took 774 people working full time, really hard, 40 hours a week on minimum wage and lined them up together they would equal one ceo salary and not even the highest salary. so this really is a question of whether or not in this country we are going to reward work, we are going to do what henry ford said. if we were paying the minimum wage that equal to what henry ford did 100 years ago this year it would be close to $15 an hour right now. >> you view this protest outside
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mcdonald's as just a push to get minimum wage changed in america? or should there be other legislation that would make a statement that companies that make billions upon billions of dollars do a better job? how are you going to handle it? >> i think it is a whole range of things. at minimum it ought to be you start by saying if you are working 40 hours a week you shouldn't be in poverty. and then it is equal pay and then also things like making college affordable. it is stopping the tax breaks that are taking jobs overseas. it is making sure that people have the health care benefits. we are certainly moving forward on that one but making sure people have what they need to be successful, what we have always called the american dream as what you talk about all the time. and that's what people are fighting for. >> here is what a spokesperson from mcdonald's had to say about
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the issue of minimum wage. >> that is a national discussion. we look to the folks in washington to determine what happens. >> aren't we having this discussion because mcdonald's and wal-mart and people like that are doing what they are doing? are they passing the buck? >> you know, there are great businesses that are paying people a living wage right now. we have many of them in michigan that are paying people much higher, $14, $15 an hour rather than the minimum wage. it really is about how we view our future and what's best for the economy. henry ford wasn't just doing this out of the goodness of his heart 100 years ago when he doubled the wages of his employees. if you go back and look at the detroit papers at the time they said he was crazy. wall street said it was economic disaster. what happened? he created the middle class of
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our country, the businesses around the plants. by the way, ed, he became one of the wealthiest men of his generation. >> you want these companies to do the right thing. that spokesperson said it is not a mcdonald's issue. >> it should be a mcdonald's issue if they want customers buying their product. you can do well and do the right thing and make sure people have money in their pocket so they can spend it on their families, take care of their families and have a middle class in this country. >> does it bother you that employees at companies like this are on public assistance? >> absolutely. absolutely. it makes no sense whatsoever. >> i understand that you have come forward to say that hillary clinton should be the next president of the united states. is that correct? >> i have, ed. you know, the conversation we were just having is one you don't have to have if it is president hillary clinton. she lives and breathes in her
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bones the fight for a fair shot for everybody to get ahead. she has fought for middle class families and people trying to get into the middle class all her life. i am very excited about the possibility. i hope she is going to run and i will do everything to help get her elected. >> there is a number of senators that has asked her to run. you are now officially one of them? >> i have asked her to run before. i officially signed on for ready for hillary. i am suiting up and ready to go. >> are you concerned of maybe a lack of debate because hillary clinton -- >> certainly everyone is welcome to run. that is always the case. there is nobody in my mind man or woman who is more qualified, more competent, more experienced than hillary clinton to be president of the united states. and it's time. >> senator, good to have you
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with us tonight, thank you. >> still ahead, don't under estimate the power of the youth vote. rapid response panel weighs in on a proposal to propel democrats in wisconsin. religious leaders urge conservatives to open their eyes to climate change. even the pope is speaking out. i'm taking your questions. we are right back. ♪ [ male announcer ] tora bora fallujah
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because we would be up to here in it. i am anxious to see what we would do with wind and solar in the next 100 years. what is the next big energy find for this country to be energy independent. that is what i would use the time machine for. i wouldn't go back where there were no fishing regulations. our next question comes from debbie. do you think the people of wisconsin are beginning to see the real scott walker. i will tell you who is seeing the real scott walker. it is the 20 somethings who know how ruthless this guy is. he has butchered the economy in rural wisconsin and is not doing anything for the kids and they are paying attention. i do. that is why the polls are tightening. we will talk about it when we come back. stick around. rapid response panel is next. modest gains for stocks. dow up 10 points.
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marriage nearing 8 of 9 support it. another issue young adults feel very strongly about is student loans. student loan debt is higher than it has ever been with the class of 2014. in, bc 15 in madison, wisconsin, spoke to recent graduates. >> it is a story that kelsey manders can paint a picture of. >> i'm leaving with 27,000. >> 27,000 she owes. >> i ignored it. looking at it was kind of a shock. >> 70% of this year's college grads have got loans. only one political party in that state wants to do something about it. it is obvious there is a division. the latest marquette university law school poll shows republican
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scott walker now in a dead heat with mary burke tied at 46%. in the latest walker was up 48-41. you have to be on the right side of the issues. mary burke is the first gubernatorial candidate to back a plan to combat student debt. burke and many democrats want to allow students to refinance their college loans the same way homeowners can refinance their mortgages, car loans at a lower interest rate. now, whether or not students decide to vote could determine the outcome of this very close governor's race. and i'm curious as to why scott walker wants to stick it to the kids? why doesn't he want to give them a break? i thought he was for that generation. joining me tonight editor and chief of "the progressive" magazine and leana taylor.
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ruth, you first. is mary burke doing enough to show students that she really wants to do this? how does this break down between republicans and democrats? who is for it and who it against it in the state of wisconsin? >> well, the politicians it breaks down on straight party lines. every democrat including my friend leana taylor. instead of paying high interest rates that make this problem for students even worse even though debt has quadrupled in the last decade adults are paying into their 40s really high rates of interest. mary burke proposed a market based solution that says let's have an authority that gets the best possible deal to pay the lowest interest rate and give them a tax break that covers the debt as well as tuition. what she is doing is she is the first gubernatorial candidate in the country to grab hold of a national movement, a higher ed
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not debt movement spreading across the country. a lot of research was done to show that people rank this as one of their very top issues that will drive them to go to the polls. if you want to see young people get excited about voting talk to them about the issue they get a reminder of every month when they get the bill in the mail. >> this has got to be very encouraging for the democrats because all of the republicans are against this. i would be curious to know and i'm sure neither of you know and i don't either, how many republicans in the state senate in wisconsin have ever refinanced their home for a lower rate? it would seem they would want the kids to have the same option for student loans? why would they be against it? your overview on this? is this a linchpin to get younger people to vote for mary burke and democrats? >> you are talking about an issue concerning for the particular electorate it is a
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reason for them to listen to you. i think mary burke is on to something here. i think that the reality is that people are paying i think it's until they are 50 almost, paying 20 years after they are getting out of school for student loan debt often. this is really going to be something that students are concerned about. when you consider one of the number one turnout places in the nation for people 18 to 29 has often been wisconsin. we have been in the top for most large elections. this is really something that i think cannot only spur students to be interested in mary burke but to encourage them to turn out in the election time. so i will say this. mary burke has shown herself to be a vision ary in this place. she not only has done what we did in the bill i sponsored. she is saying there should be a
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tuition credit for individuals as well as the loan payment as well as they should be able to refinance. if we take what congressman mark pocandid and say it should be the lowest possible interest rate this could help people across the nation. >> i'm curious same question for both of you. what do you think scott walker will do to combat this? how else will he get younger people to vote for him? >> walker recognizes the power of this generation of voters. when he announced his reelection bid he talked about freezing tuition at the university of wisconsin because tuition is increasing really rapidly. that is part of the driver of student debt. he didn't go down really until the heart of the issue. he is not willing and no republican in our state is willing to get behind this refinancing idea. that is very significant because the interest rates are huge drivers of the debt. there are 800,000 student
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debters in the state of wisconsin. they need more than just a tuition freeze. they need to pay off the debt they have accrued. i think this could be an issue like social security. there are 40 million people in america for whom this is a heart felt issue. >> what do you think walker will do to combat this? right now he is not with popular opinion. >> the truth of the matter is he thinks the tuition freeze is enough for him. i think he believes the efforts happening to help with individuals who want to go to trade schools, it's a trickle for what they have done compared to cuts that they have made. i want to say that he is just going to continue to beat that same horse. i don't see anything new in what walker has done. and i frankly don't see him winning that population. he didn't win 18 to 29 year olds. i don't anticipate he will win now. my issue is can we increase their turnout so that we can
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make it where it is going to make a huge difference in this election? i believe this topic will help him do this. this is 20 years after they finish school they are dealing with the debt. they want to be able to refinance it and get the lowest rates and have the deductions. tuition freeze is important. if he funded the schools the way they needed to tuition wouldn't be increasing. >> great to have you with us tonight. we will follow the story. coming up lessons in hard work for tenders is next. you, too. hi buddy. mom! awesome! dad!! i missed you. ♪ oh... daddy. chevrolet and its dealers proudly support military appreciation month. with the industry's best military purchase program, for all that have served.
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you could literally be done with the test by now. now you could have done it twice. this is awkward. check your speed. see how fast your internet can be. switch now and add voice and tv for $34.90. comcast business built for business. >> welcome back to "the ed show." climate change has become one of our most divisive issues of all time.
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the leader of the worldwide catholic church is weighing in, the pope. situationing in rome, pope francis called on his followers to be the custodians of creation. francis pointed to the biblical creation story in the book of genesis where god created the world and declared it good. the pope argued, quote, if god sees that creation as something that's good and beautiful, we must have this attitude. we must see that creation is something good and beautiful. creation is not a property which we can rule over at will. creation is a wonderful gift that god has given us. so that we care for it and we use it for the benefit of all. always with great respect and gratitude. when we exploit creation, we destroy the sign of god's love for us. safeguard creation, because if we destroy creation, creation will destroy us. now, i don't think the pope is a scientist, but this is more than interesting. the pope isn't the only
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religious leader joining the climate discussion these days. let's go to the tate of florida. in florida, ivevangelical environmental network is leading a campaign calling on governor rick scott to create a plan to do this -- make creation care and confronting the impacts of climate change a priority. joining us tonight, the president of the evangelical environmental network. reverend, nice to have you on the ed show tonight. i appreciate your time. >> ed, thank you for having me. >> you bet. reverend, tell us why you've started a petition for the governor of florida to pay attention to this? >> well, i think first is that climate change in the united states, florida is ground zero. sea level rise, disease rise, asthma increases, salt water introduce, crop land loss. florida is the place where climate change is going to strike first.
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that and new orleans. we believe governor scott needs to be educated, needs to see climate change from his ethical, his biblical, his faith perspective. and so we would like to get onboard with him to show him, that creation care is a matter of life. it's a pro life issue for us. and we want to help him make that change, to be -- to see that it's not a liberal issue, but it's all of people issue. it's a god issue. >> and do you think governor scott has fallen short in his kmim as an evangelical to recognize this? >> all of us fall short. it's time for us to come together. it doesn't matter if you're left or right. i think this is the biggest thing we as evangelicals and christians can do. is to try to bridge that gap between conservatives and liberals and make the kind of plans that can go forward to help us do it. you know, i'm a life long
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republican. i remember the days of ronald reagan and the montreal protocol. you know, helping to clean up flur c fleurocarbons from the ozone. i remember with bush the new clean air act and having marked ways to clean up our pollution. that's what we want to offer governor scott and all republicans. we need to come to the table together to find the best solutions for all america and indeed all the world as the pope says. >> i totally agree with you on that. there's no question about it. and what frustrates a lot of americans is the denial of the science that is out there. now, you have called this a pro life issue, can you explain that to us? >> absolutely. for us as an organization and me personally, we believe that life begins at conception and we have a moral responsibility to care for life from conception to natural death.
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anything that affects the life of all people is a great moral challenge and a great moral opportunity of our time. >> and many people, as i said, of faith, they are still in denial that climate change exists. so where is the disconnect, reverend? >> i think quite honestly it's one of the ways we've talked about climate change for the past few years. you know, in the evangelical community, faith is -- excuse me, science is not a high value. but life is, and health is. and opportunity is. and so i think when we start talking about children's health and values and engagement of all people, then we can see that it is this biblical aspect. we've been working very hard to put climate change and the values that really connection with evangelicals across the country and indeed the world. >> quickly, do you think the governor will pay attention to you? >> well, i hope so. i said in an article the other day, the only thing i can do is
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knock on his door and hope that he opens it. that's my prayer that we have the time to meet with him. >> i appreciate your time coming on "the ed show" tonight. thank you so much. that's "the ed show." "politics nation" starts right now. good evening, rev. >> good evening, ed. and thanks to you for tuning in. i'm live from norfolk, virginia. tonight's lead, conservatives trying to roll back 50 years of progress on poverty. today, exactly 50 years after president lyndon johnson's famous great society speech, republicans are launching a cynical new attack on the safety net. they're publishing a new manifesto called room to grow and labelling it a kr,
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