that. >> that might be the hottest tick net america if that ever takes place. >> i guarantee it is. >> great to have you with us tonight. thanks so much. it's a race to watch no doubt. that's "the ed show." i'm ed shults. "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. good evening, rev. >> good evening, ed, and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, the first lady takes the fight to the gop. today at the white house, michelle obama took on republicans in congress who are trying to put politics ahead of our nation's children. she hit back on a new gop-led effort to scale back her healthy school lunch initiative. >> we're now seeing efforts in congress to roll back these new standard and undo the hard work that all of you, all of us have done on behalf of our kids and, you know, this is unacceptable.

it's unacceptable to me not just as first lady but as a mother. this is what i tell myself -- in 10 or 20 years i don't want to look back with regret and think that we gave up on our kids because we felt like this thing was too hard or too expensive. we owe our kids way more than that. >> we owe our kids more than that, and we do. one-third of kids in this country are overweight or obese. one-third. so what's the gop solution? republicans are pushing a bill that would allow schools to opt out of guidelines passed in 2010, guidelines that reduce sodium in school lunches and increase whole grain foods, fresh fruits and vegetables. so now republicans have become the party of promoting healthier kids? it makes. >> no sense. and the explanations are pretty

tough to swallow. >> i have not talked to industry about this. i don't know if they have contacted your office about it. but it on my side i've not heard from them. i'm hearing from the lunch ladies. >> kids are saying, you know what? we'll get somewhere else to get some food and they do. and i think that-in that aspect you're actually doing the kids a disservice. >> we're doing kids a disservice because they prefer junk food to vegetables? that's his argument? no wonder we should change the school standards. and would you believe it, this bright idea is coming from the same folks who classified pizza as a vegetable back in twenty lep. >> look at this picture. what do you see? in this week's washington warsack test, congress says this qualifies as a vegetable because it has two tablespoons of tomato paste and will remain a

vegetable. >> all this time i thought kids were going to the pizza parlor for a snack. turns out they were going to the vegetable parlor. this latest push to roll back healthy eating is an affront to our kids. but it's also an attempt to attack the first lady, something they've been doing since she first took on this crusade. >> taking the nanny state to the new level, michelle obama is suggesting what you should feed your children. >> this is michelle, she knows better than anybody else about healthy foods because she has a garden. >> why would you want to raise your own kids, you're right, when michelle obama will do it for you? in fact, she'll do it at gunpoint. >> she is a hypocrite. leaders are supposed to be leaders. if we're supposed to go out and eat nothing, if we're supposed to eat roots and berries and tree bark, so show us how, dare i say this, it doesn't look like michelle obama follows her own

nutrition dietary advice. >> the attacks have always been vicious, but now the health of our nation's children is at stake. we can't let this happen. joining me now is congresswoman rosa delauro, democrat of connecticut from connecticut, and also fierce advocate on this issue scott fava of good policy action, a nonprofit devoted to holding members of congress accountable for their photovotes on food policy. thanks for being here. >> thank you, reverend. >> congresswoman, over 0% of school districts are already meeting these new nutrition standards so, who what's really behind all this gop opposition now? >> first of all, reverend, thanks for shining a spotlight on this critically important issue, and it is about our children, and our children need to be put first and i want to applaud the first lady for all that she has done, going back to

2010, when the healthy hungry free kids act was passed. she worked hard to do that as did a number of us in the congress to move forward to finally get standards for our school lunch program. and those standards just didn't come out of the air. they were put together by the institute of medicine along with the department of agriculture so that we could ensure that our kids were getting healthy meals. what's behind it? it is the food industry, and in particular the preprocessed package industry that is behind it. and what we're doing is taking the special interests, putting them front and center, and leaving our children behind. and we know -- and you said it, one-third of our kids are obese. we need to be able to feed them nutritious meals. and, again, 91% of our schools are in compliance.

the usda has said that they would work with the schools, provide technical assistance to make this happen. it is an attack on our children. >> you know, scott, that is what's so appalling about the idea of having people opt out. if 91% have already complied, then there's really no real point to this other than it being political. and of course some of the people may argue that kids may not love the changes. they're best in the long run. listen, we need this initiative. >> i can't tell you the number of letters i kwet not just from parents and teachers but from kids, kids who are struggling to create healthy lifestyles for themselves who is find themselves at odds when they go to school and they don't have options. those kids are grateful for the changes that are being made. and with kids it takes them a second to change their habits.

we know that. look, my kids growl at me every time we sit at the dinner table and there's fish. so we know that it's tough to change the habits of kids. but that can't be the reason why we start rolling this back. >> scott, i know personally it's hard to change habits, but also know in the long run it serves you much better. >> you know, absolutely. this isn't just political. this is personal. you know, i have kids in the d.c. public schools. millions of parents are counting on their public schools to make sure that their kids are educated, that they're safe, and that they're fed a healthy meal. it's ridiculous that members of congress like congressman david and others are trying to roll back standards that guarantee that my kids and your kids are being fed a healthy meal when they go to school. >> why are they doing this? >> i wish i could tell you. the lunch ladies were asking for this or these programs aren't

working. all the evidence is that the vast, vast majority of schools are able to meet these new, tougher standards. the real reason is a couple of pizza and frnch fry companies wan't to weaken the rules so they can continue to sell junk food to our kids during the school day. that's just wrong. it's amazing to me many that members of congress don't recognize it. this is simply wrong. this is an issue about politics. this should be an issue about what's best for our kids. we shouldn't be putting our kids behind the lobbyists who are funding their campaigns. >> but congresswoman, let's go behind the scenes and deal with this lobbying because some of the right have said it's too costly to implement changes. but what about the cost of obesity? we spend $190 billion in obesity-related health care costs annually. so it's not a cost -- i mean how hard are congress persons being pressed by lobbyists on this issue behind the scenes,

congresswom congresswoman? >> i think they are being pressed preliminary examinationly our colleagues on the other side of the isle. i don't know of any democrat that wants to roll back these standards. and the cost is not comparable when you think of children's health. that is first. but if you can't think about putting our children first, think about the economics of this and bhat mewhat it means i of health care costs. reverend sharpton, let me thengs this. it was years ago that the gop wanted to end the school lunch program all together. they didn't succeed in doing that. you saw recently with the farm bill weath bill, with the attack on the food stamp program. we also have an attack on the wic program where congress mapp want to put in white potatoes, which they don't need, and thousand now what they want to do is lol back the standards that are being put into place.

91% of our schools are doing it. as the first lady said, change is difficult. overnight, people did not stop smoking, but smoking lessened when we changed the rules. let's continue on this track. but overall, our colleagues on the other side of the aisle don't deal with nutrition, they don't believe in it, because they are beholden to industry, and so therefore they put our kids once again at risk. we cannot let it happen. >> no, and she's already driven some of the obesity rates down and it's cost effective. scott, you know, the congresswoman touched on something that is near and dear to me because i think this new crusade should be part of a larger effort on the part of some on the right to gult free lunches for low-income students. just listen to how they're taking a position on free school lunches. >> should students have to work for their school meals?

send those comments to us. >> why don't you, you know, have the kids pay a dime, pay a nickel to instill in them there is, in fact, no such thing as a free lunch? or maybe sweep the floor in the calf fear ya. >> when you get a new pet, what is the first thing you do to try to bond with it? you want to be the one to feed it. right? well, same thing here. >> i mean, we're talking about children and free lunch. i think this is part of a bigger attack, scott. >> i couldn't agree more. it's not like -- i can't imagine how you could make the argument that any kid should go to school hungry. i mean, at the end of the day we want our kids ready to learn and we know from study after study that feeding them breakfast and lunch puts them in a position to learn more and ultimately be contributing members to our society. this is a relatively small investment. we spend $10 billion a year helping to feed our kids and make sure they don't go to school hungry or don't go home hungry. and if we spend that $10 billion right, if we do more to make

sure our kids are eating healthy food in schools, that's going to save us hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars in avoided health care costs down the road. so this is one of those cases of being penny-wise and pound-foolish. if we make the right investments with healthy food if our schools today we'll stave government hundreds of billions of dollars in the future. >> congresswoman, quickly, to those that are viewing, whack they do to help with this issue? what would you tell the viewer watching tonight what they can do? >> congress is an institution that responds to external pressure. you've got good people internally who will make the case, but the way it moves is external pressure pip just want to say to the american public if you value the lives of your children and their health, get on the phone, tell your member of congress do not roll back the healthy hunger-free standards. they're scientific. they'll make a difference in your children's lives, and that

they will remember those who voted to roll back those standards. >> congresswoman rosa delauro and scott fava, thank you both for your time tonight. >> thank you, reverend al. >> thank you. coming up, one republican senator's outrageous attack on veteran groups. now the vets are hitting back against his hypocrisy. we'll talk about it with democratic senator bernie sanders. also, is darrell issa going rogue? the benghazi force is out of control. tonight we'll talk to democrat e elijah cummings about how he plans to fight back. also, could the horrific school shootings in california have been prevented? some new hope tonight about what can be done to stop the next tragedy. stay with us. this is interesting. it says here that a woman's sex drive

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we must ensure they get the care and benefits and opportunities that they've earned and deserve. >> doing more for our nation's veterans. it's a priority for president obama and his administration. as his administration investigates the charges that veterans affairs hospitals hit long wait times for care. but many on the right are using the problems for political gain, calling the va socialized medicine. claiming the controversy is proof the affordable care act won't work. and now north carolina republican senator richard sbur attacking veterans groups that have called the secretary eric

shinseki to resign. "appear to be more interested in defending the status quo within the va, protecting their relationships within the agency, and securing their access to the secretary and his inner circle." veterans groups hit back hard. disabled american veterans said senator burr's letter was full of cheap political attacks. the vfw calls senator burr's letter disgusting. the paralyzed vets of america pointed out that senator burr has opposed legislation for a number of veterans programs and wrote, "you clearly represent the worst of politics in the country." opposing programs for vets and then attacking the groups that help them, it's ugly and not what we should see coming out of this tragedy.

joining me now is vermont's independent senator, bernie sanders, chairman of the senate committee on veterans affairs. senator sanders, thanks for being here tonight. >> my pleasure. >> nor, one of your colleagues going after the veterans groups back in february he and 40 other republicans blocked a bill you proposed to expand health care programs for vets. how can they justify that, senator? >> well, al, that's a great question. this was according to the veterans organizations the most comprehensive veterans legislation introduced in decades, legislation that addressed health care, dental care, education, employment, the family needs of veterans back home. it was a bill that had the support of every single major veterans organizations and when we brought it to the floor, we

had every democrat supporting it and we only had two senators, two republican senators on board, senator heller and senator moran, and we could not get -- we could not overcome the republican filibuster and get the 60 votes that we needed. we were only able to get 56. >> only two republicans, this is amazing, and this was a bill that would help give expanded health care to veterans that they're now out claiming to be so concerned about. >> right. here's what's troubling to me, al. if you listen to the remarks made by the republican senators, what they were saying is this is an expensive piece of legislation, and the answer the is to some degree it is. and my response has been and always will be, if you are not prepared to take care of the men and women who put their lives on the line to defend this country, who came back wounded in body,

wounded in spirit, if you're not prepared to help those people, then don't send them to war in the first place. >> that's right. >> i find that many of these republicans, it's just hypocritical to be talking about the cost of this legislation when they don't understand the real cost of war and what it means to the people who fight in those wars. >> and i think that's what galls people like me, is the hypocrisy. at one level you're going to send people to war, even wars that end up being completely unjustifiab unjustifiable. at another level, you want to be very, very careful not to spend money on veterans and the people that you put on the front lines. it seems to me to be such a contradictory position, senator. >> al, when you talk about the cost of war, i mean, i think most people know that in iraq and afghanistan we've lost close to 7,000 men and women.

what many people may not appreciate is that some 200,000 of people who fought in iraq and afghanistan have come home with posttraumatic stress disorder or traumatic brain injury. others have come home without legs, without eyesight, without arms. people really suffered. and if the country, our country, stands for anything, it must be that we do everything that we can to protect those people who put the lives on the line to defend us. >> i want to ask you this quickly. you know, there have been a lot of attacks from the right on the va scandal for political purposes. but listen to how far some are going. here's fox news contributor dr. ben carson. listen to this. >> i think what's happening with the veterans is a gift from god, to show us what happens when you take layers and layers of bureaucracy and place them between the patients and the health care provider. and if we can't get it right

with the relatively small number of veterans, how in the world are you going to do wit the entire population? >> calling this scandal a gift from god. what's your reaction, senator? >> al, let me respond to this. you know, we held a hearing on this about a week and a half ago, and i asked all of the veterans organizations at the haeshgs tell me about the quality of care in the va once people get into the system. and what they said without exception and what independent survey after survey backs up is the quality of health care in the va is good to excellent. the problem that we're having is getting people into the va in a timely manner. >> right. >> the va established very aggressive goals. it may well be that with 2 million new people coming into the va in the last four years that in certain parts of the country they can't achieve those goals, we have got to help them be able to do that.

>> well, i beg your republican colleagues to get their story straight. senator bernie sander, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. coming up, some republicans want another contract with america. only problem is they actually have to stand for something other than saying no and scandal mongering. congressman e elijah cummings on that. ♪

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rogue? >> i think he is going rogue, reverend. that's exactly right. when the select committee was established, speaker boehner said that everything would come under that select committee with regard to benghazi e. chairman isa decided that he wanted to issue a subpoena, sub senator kerry basically i think he wants to question them about why he isn't getting documents as fast as he'd like. but really, reverend, all of that information should now be turned over to the select committee. but, again, i actually believe that chairman issa is out of control, i really believe that. >> yeah, because when the secretary of state announced that they will -- he will testify before chairman issa's committee next month, the state department says, and i'm quoting, this would remove any

need for the secretary to appear before the select committee to answer additional questions. now, in effect, issa, isn't he undermining fellow republicans and the select committee by doing this? >> no doubt about it. basically, what he's done is the select committee may very well have wanted to hear from secretary kerry, but now issa will try -- will bring him in because the secretary has already agreed to come in, he's going to come in in june, and he will then give his testimony. but keep in mind if issa really wanted to hear about some records that he hadn't gotten, it would have been far more effective to bring in the custodian of records or somebody who was actually in charge of the records. keep in mind, when benghazi took place, secretary kerry was not even in -- >> right. >> to so actually it makes no sense. but also keep in mind, reverend, that this is really very, very

political. these folks are going around, that is the republicans, raising money with regard to the death of these four members of the diplomatic core. that to me is a very harsh thing to do. but they see nothing wrong with it. speaker boehner sees nothing wrong with it. to his credit, the chairman of the select committee is saying, you know what, i'm not going to raise any money like this. the democrats, all democrats have made it clear that they're not going to do it. certainly the democrats on the select committee are not going to do it. but yet still the republicans are going around raising money, having all kinds of commercials, and using the deaths of our diplomatic corps to raise money. reverend, i think it's despicable. >> speaking of gowdy, who is the gop chair of this select committee, he had to pack pedal after referring to the investigation, as a trial. listen to this. >> if an administration is slow walking document production, i

can't end a trial simply because the defense won't cooperate. >> for 16 years i spoke in trial met force and perhaps i need to get out of that habit. what i simply meant is when you ask me how long something's going to last, i need to know how cooperative the other side is going to be. >> did the congressman in effect give away what's going on here that this is really about putting the administration on trial and not trying to find out what's happening? >> i think it was his world, but everybody knows representative gowdy, who i have a lot of respect for, is an outstanding prosecutor, and he has shown that skill within our committee. but i do believe that there is a ting of what issa has done in the past because chairman gowdy has made some statements like chairman issa where you make a statement that's sort of inflammatory that makes the headlines, but then you go in search of the facts and usually

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now to the mass shooting tragedy in santa barbara, california, and a community still searching for answers. could 22-year-old elliot rodger's rampage have been stopped? the son of a hollywood director fatally stabbed three young men in his own apartment before killing three more people in a shooting spree. he left 13 more people injured. he was found dead in his car

from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound. the day before the rampage an extraordinary look into the mind of the shooter. he posted a video on youtube ranting for nearly seven minutes against women and popular kids who he says rejected him. he warned the next day would be a, quote, day of retribution. >> i don't know why you girls aren't attracted to me, butly punish you all for it. it's an injustice, a crime, because i don't know what you don't see in me. i'm the perfect guy. and yet you throw yourselves at all these obnoxious men instead of me, the supreme gentleman. i will punish all of you for it. >> less than a month ago his

family contacted police after discovering his social media post about suicide and killing people. but when police visited elliot rodger at his apartment, they found him to be polite, courteous, even shy. the police took no action, doing what was legally right, because they saw no red flags of a problem. minutes before the massacre, elliot e-mailed a 141-page manifesto to dozens of people, including his parents, and at least one of his therapists. he wrote how relieved he was that police didn't search his apartment. "the police would have searched my apartment room -- my room, found all my guns and weapons, along with my writings about what i planned to do with them." the video and the manifesto offer a chilling look into

elliot's thoughts and his state of mind. but they still leave many questions unanswered. joining me now michael roche, a former law enforcement official and author of "matss killers: hw you can identify workplace, school, and public killers before they strike." and criminal profiler casey jordan. thank you both for being here. >> glad to be here. >> my pleasure, reverend. thank you for having e me. >> mike, is there some way that police could have stopped this massacre from happening? >> you know, i really don't think so in this situation because you have to understand that, you know, the supreme court under o'connor v. donaldson has ruled that the only way you can involuntary commit someone to a mental health facility is if they are a danger to themselves or to others. and that's the same case in california under their state

statute. i think it's 5150. and it's a similar situation. when the police were summoned or called and essentially it was a welfare check that the mother had said i'm concerned about my son, and i've looked at the videos that were out there prior to this last one, and, you know, essentially what you were looking at was an individual that was, you know, perhaps narcissistic, he was depressed, lonely, felt that he was being excluded from society, but, you know, he was a highly functioning individual. so i could see where when the police came to actually interview him that they would have encountered as you said a polite individual who knew not to threaten suicide and not to threaten homicide. and now the one thing perhaps they could have asked -- >> casey, respond to that. >> okay. >> do you think the police could

have done differently or anything more? >> i think the system could have done something differently. the six officer who is went that day, really their hands are tied by the constitutional restrictions on search and seizure. the laws are the problem, not the cops. we should be looking at a model that is use ld, for instance,inn canada where a psychiatrist goes with the cops on these checks, anything that could trigger a mental health evaluation or result in a that 5150, 72 hours of psychiatric evaluation. cops should not be in the position of judging mental health. >> pardon me for stopping you but just curious, what type of questions would you want to ask? >> first of all, i don't think the cops have any knowledge of his psychiatric history. do they know he's been seeing a psychologist since he was 8 years snoeld did they actually see the videos that the mother saw which triggered her phone call to the police? we don't even know if the cops saw those. >> which is what triggered the visit. >> yeah, but we don't even know if p the cops saw those videos.

we just know they were dispatched to an address to ask the kid, are you thinking of harping yourself? no? there is nothing more we can do. the only question i have is did they ask to look around the apartment. he says in the manifesto if they had demanded it, they would have found it. question is did they ask and did he refuse. i'd be interested to know if the cops were pushy. >> in his manifesto, elliot this fixated on getting a girlfriend. he believed it was the reason he was so unhappy. he talks about his youtube video say, "i title ud wp of the videos i uploaded why do girls hate me so much?" he goes on to explain that, "i am the perfect, magnificent gentleman, worthy of having a beautiful girlfriend, making the world see how unreasonable it is that i have had to struggle all my life to get a girlfriend." but this wasn't just some kid who couldn't get a date. some reports show that he may have suffered from a condition that would have made it hard to

interact socially with other people, casey. >> it's possible that now you're trying to diagnose a dead man so, i think we're kind of monday morning quarterbacking there. the issue is there is this so-called creep factor that i think our other guest can speak to that when the hair on the back of your neck stands up, you can't quantify that and that is not probable cause to arrest somebody. but there's a reason he didn't have a girlfriend and that is because he had the death ray of weirdness about him that no girls wanted to talk to him or go out with him or have anything to do with him. he was socially unfit, but it's not a crime. the mental illness threshold needs to be reality based. the question should not be is he a danger to himself or others, it's does he need mental health treatment. >> mike, i see you nodding your head. i mean, what can we do about mental health? what more can we do? in the state of california they have strong gun laws, but they seem to be getting rated lower, "f," for mental health laws.

what more can be done? >> well, again, like casey was just explaining, you know, the 5150 statute in california, like most states, allows for somebody to be held for a period of up to 72 hours. you know, there's been $1.8 billion has been shed from state budgets for mental health between 2009 and 2011. and as a result, you know, they're looking at strictly crisis stabilization. somebody comes in, they just want to stabilize them, put them on some prescriptions and then refer them to a community-based, you know, psychiatric facility, and they're trying to clear up the bed space because again, you know, the budgets have been slashed so much that it's difficult for them. they're trying to do the best that they can. but it doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to stay there for 72 hours. they could be in and out in six

or eight hours. i've had that numerous times. >> casey, what should be done about the laws? >> well, we do have to change the law or have some supreme court decisions which allow exceptions. to me, leakage should be probable cause for -- leak saj the social media for posting of vid yoes, the talking to friends on the playground. we need to take that very seriously. and then we need to reallocate money we're currently spending on community-based issues and law enforcement and homelessness because if you take care of the mental health problem, those problems will start to solve themselves. >> i think what makes this more heartbreaking is that the police did visit him and didn't see it. mike roche and casey jordan, thanks for your time. ? thank you, reverend. >> our condolences to the families of all the victims. coming up, a new report on ceo pay that should reignite the fight for economic inequality in america.

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