this is "now." >> america must always lead on the world same. no one else will. >> barack obama's presidency has been bedevilled by -- >> achg, there was no mention at all of how that war is going to end. >> we're going to have almost nosh there in 2060. >> and what the president is saying to the taliban, hang on, we're leaving. >> they refused where indecisiveness. >> how much effort are we going to put into resolving the crisis in the you yan as opposed to syria. >> the bottom line is, we've more or less accepted the forcible anextation of and you can't back away from warfare. we're engaging the world.

>> no strategy here. >> some sort of sweeping obama doctrine that you can sum up in a bumper sticker. >> that talk auflt draws headlines. war really conforms to slowness. >> the new style of foreign policy after a long season of war. in a comprehensive speech addressing the newest class of military officers at west point today, president obama declared that the united states is still the world's one indispensable nation but cautioned restraent in the use of american military might. to thoef who would claim such restraint weakens the eyes of their adversaries the president defended what may come to be known as the obama doctrine. >> here's my bottom line. america must always lead on the world stage but u.s. military action cannot be the only or even primary component of our leadership in every instance.

just because we have the best hammer doesn't mean that every problem is a nail. >> blaming the rush to war for costly mistakes, the president declared that those who see america in decline are misreading history or they are playing poll tux. and while he said terrorism remains in the nation's most direct threat the president painted a changing picture of the threat with diffused pockets spread astretch of africa and the middle east. among the most dangerous, syria, where he offered a vague pledge to strengthen support for rebels in what will be a key test of the obama doctrine. >> as frustrating as it is, there are no easy answers there. that doesn't mean we shouldn't help the syrian people stand up against a dictator who bombs and starves his own people. and in helping those who fight for the right of all syrians to choose their own future, we are also pushing back against the growing number of extremists who

find safe haven in the chaos. >> for a president who announced that not every problem is a nail, it seems clear is his attention to keep the hammer in the toolbox. joining me is nbc news political director and white house correspondent, chuck todd host of "the daily rundown" and "washington post" columnist at the brookings institute. chuck i'll start with you. before we get to foreign policy and the president's works earlier, breaking news regarding the v.a. i think we can call it a scandal now. eric shinseki has been briefed on the inspector general's report and released these words have i have reviewed the report and the findings are reprehensible to me. what happens to the secretary at this point? >> it sure feels like, you can't predict what the president will do. he's always very hesitant to what some in the white house refer to as "feeding the washington, d.c. beast when official washington starts clamoring for a firing or

resignation or some sort of political head type of thing. you can certainly feel as if what limited support the president was offering general shinseki last week, and it was limited, he didn't stand behind him the way he had stood behind him a week earlier at the time. he was very clear. he had said specifically, that he wanted to see what the report said. when the president is coming out saying things that he finds the i.g. report "troubling" and in the white house background or on letting us know that the president found the report "troubling" they said, lets point you to what he said about gener shinseki in his presser. >> chuck, why even have the presser with shinseki standing the his side in why wait until now when we're finding out the vets at the phoenix v.a. hospital waited on average 115 days for their first medical appointment? why even go through the pomp and circumstance of that press

conference last week? >> simply because they felt as if they were taking political water, proverbial water under a little bit because we hadn't heard from the president and he hadn't directly addressed this v.a. mess for three and a half weeks, not since weapon travelled in asia so they needed a forum to do that so they used the excuse of the vat meeting the president had with shinseki . it was notable he didn't have him by his side. that was number one. read between the lines and you want to read tea leaves. it looks like shinseki 's days are numbered. after this ig report, you had democratic candidates in kwooe places calling for shinseki 's resignation. not any elected leaders but now that this i.g. report is out, i wouldn't be surprised if you see suddenly more democrats climbing on board this idea that shinseki has to go. the real issue for this white house is finding somebody who is

willing to do this job that is a big enough personality, that will inspire is confidence that frankly, the v.a. needs. it's a bureaucratic mess. it's lacking some leadership. >> e.j., let me talk to you about the president. today he was at west point. he brought the subject of veterans up. i want to play this piece of sound. knowing, probably full well that the i.g.'s interim report would be coming out in a matter of hours or at least, days, let's hear what he said earlier today. >> four of the service members who stood in the audience when i announced the surge of our forces in afghanistan gave their lives in that effort. a lot more were wounded. i believe america's security demanded those deployments. but i'm haunted by those deaths. i'm haunted by those wounds.

>> so, e.j., perhaps that's not the piece of sound i was looking for in so far as the president was talking about the sandal unfolding in the wings of his administration, what is his move in your mind? >> well, i think there's been a reluctance, simply, to dump shinseki partly because of his past service to his country. partly because he was very gutsy in calling out the bush administration in terms of how much it would take to fight the iraq war. we got to remember all the way back to understand that this is a very gutsy guy. on the other hand, democrats, including president obama, before he was president, were calling out to the bush administration on veterans' issues. nancy pelosi made it a big issue in the 2006 campaign when the democrats took over congress. so, democrats and the president, do not want to be seen as dragging their feet and making

change at the v.a. i agree with chuck. that what they're probably looking for is a way to gracefully let shinseki step down and look for a very high-profile vet. i was wondering if former senator bob kerry, a wounded vet, might be the kind of person they want they want to put in charge there. somebody that's had to deal with the v.a. health system himself as a way of saying, we're going to take this thing very seriously and put somebody in there who both, as a practical matter and symbolically, carries a lot of weight ants issue. >> chuck, let's talk about more broadly about the president's work today. which is to say the speech you at west point. max fisher at fox and i tend to agree with this assessment, called it one of the most dovish foreign policy speeches by a sitting u.s. president since eisenhower. this was a man who was very clearly trying to put the hammer of american military might firmly in the toolbox. not to say they will never be

opened again but i was struck by how dove issuish this was. what were your thoughts? >> this is the foreign policy the president, that candidate obama always wanted to pursue. this was the outlines of what he described and what he campaigned on for six years and for six years he was a reluctant wartime president because of this situation in afghanistan and frankly wrap there was always a little bit of a rorschach test when it came to obama in '07 and '08. one of the ways that that would sort of paper over this of the idea that he didn't want to be viewed as simply an antiwar guy since he was anti-iraq and he used to say he was anti-iraq. that was a dumb war. afghanistan was a right place. we have a bad strategy. he was caught with his own rhetoric and when he came in, he focused on figuring out how to clean up afghanistan, surge troops in. but i can tell you in hindsight, there are a lot of people around the president and there's even some thought that the president

himself, has expressed this privately which is, maybe the surge wasn't worth the cost? was it worth the cost of what it took to do the surge where we are today in afghanistan? that's a question that he doesn't like having to deal with. it was not -- he's not happy where how the surge went per se. it's always the impression i've gotten. while the white house will say they don't regret the surge, the fact of the matter is the foreign policy he outlined today is -- this is what candidate obama believed -- this is to me what he was campaigning on in '07. six years later, after he can finally end the war that he was, frankly, elected to end. he was elected to end both wars, you could argue and that's why democrats chose him over hill a and why ven kwhully the yes chose him over mccain is the wartime issue. now we're seeing this foreign policy vision he had and the irony is, he doesn't get to implement it. this vision he's outlining at best he has to hope the next

democrat that replaces him maybe, can implement that. >> e.j. a lot will be made about this president and this administration's relationship to the military and to our veterans you're seeing on the ticker senator john cornyn is calling for the fbi to investigate and folks calling for his resignation in the wake of this report. as it pertains to the use of american military it's hard to imagine a republican president having a dramatically different foreign policy doctrine, given where the american. title is and where our finances are. when you ask what should american's role be in the world, only 19 percent of the country said we should be more active. 47% say we should be less active. 30% say we should maintain our current levels of military engagement. 77% of the country says stay at or below our current level of global involvement. i know republicans will use this for the administration but it will be interesting in 2016 to

see how anyone articulates a vastly different foreign policy doctrine. >> while in many ways this is very much an eisenhower speech more than a john f.k speech. eisenhower was much more cautious about war. in many ways what he's trying to do is say, i want to go back to where we were under the first president bush and president clinton, where we would use american force under a certain circumstances but there is a great weariness with war in the country that anybody from any party in any ideology has to come to terms with and that's -- why barack obama on where the nomination and election in 2008, as chuck pointed out. one of the ironies is that only by selling restraint we'll use force but have only when necessary -- we have --

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>> what makes us exceptional is not our ability to flout international norms and the rule of law but our willingness to affirm them. and that's why we're putting in place new restrictions on how

america collects and uses intelligence because we'll have fewer partners and be less effective if a perception takes hold that we're conducting surveillance against normal citizens. >> he's reforming the nation's intelligence collection. one year ago before edward snowden initiated the largest leak 06 documents in u.s. history such a statement would have been almost unheard of. last night nbc news has brian williams interview with snowden, the first on american television should were you trained as a spy? it seems to me spies probably look a lot more like ed snowden and a lot less like james bopd these days. >> it's no secret that the u.s. tends to get more and better intelligence out of computers nowadays than they the out of people. i was trained as a spy and sort of the traditional sense of the word that that ied and worked undercover overseas. pretending to work in a job that

i'm not. and even being assigned a name that was not mine. but i am a technical specialist. i'm a technical expert. i don't work with people. i don't recruit agents. what i do is i put systems to work for the united states. and i've done that at all levels from the bottom on the ground, all the way to the top. now, the government might deny these things and they might frame it in certain ways and say he's a low-level analyst but what they're trying to do, is they're trying to use one position that i've had in a career here or there, to distract from the totality of my experience which is that i've worked for the central tell generals agency undercover overseas. i've worked for the national security agency undercover, overseas and i've worked for the defense intelligence agency as a lecturer at the joint and counter intelligence training academy where i developed sources and methods for keeping

our information and people secure in the most hostile and dangerous environments around the world. >> chuck todd and e.j. are with me. we've come a long way from the day that the president would characterize edward snowden as a 29-year-old hacker. i wonder in his remarks today that if you saw an administration that had learned some lessons from edward snowden's leaks? >> clearly, his leak has changed american policy. it's had an enormous impact on the debate. not only within the obama administration, but among a lot of conservative republicans think of rand paul and other libertarians in congress. and i think there's a lot of ambivalence about edward snow den in public opinion. on the one hand and in particular, if you're a journalist. you applaud whistle-blowers that point out things that lead to changes in policy. on the other hand, i thought there was a funny irony at the end of the clip when he said, a train people to be able to keep

secrets in difficult circumstances and obviously, this is somebody who call them a whistle blower if you will or but someone who made a lot of secrets public. i think that's where the debate over snowden begins. where does the service he did in promoting this debate start? and where does the fact that he was paid to do a certain thing that in the end he didn't do? keep the secrets. where does that end? >> chuck, secretary kerry on your program today, said edward snowden is a coward and i traitor and he's betrayed his country. if he wants to come home tomorrow to face the music he can do so. i actually wonder if edward snowden coming home tomorrow to face this music wouldn't put this administration in a really tough position. >> i think it could be a public relation's nightmare. if there was and because if he's not given the fully fair type of trial that it's something that everything gets redacted and done under the darkness because

of national security reasons of what they're accusing him of and it's more like a bradley manning situation where there's no cameras or ability to cover the trial, i think that there would be some questions about whether -- how fair is this going to be from people, particularly from folks that would be supportive of edward snowden in what he did. so i think that it's funny, you hear him say that. and i'll tell you with secretary kerry i heard it in his voice and when i deal with national security folks. there's almost blind rage of anger when it comes to the administration in general, and in the intelligence community at edward snowden. and a lot of it has to do with because of -- how damaging it was to america's diplomatic reputation. forget -- they talk about sources and method and all of those things. but the damage it has done to president obama, in particular, and america's image around the world, that's what gets people like secretary kerry, who deals

into diplomacy, so angry. >> a fascinating kwhan of events. chuck todd, neither rain were nor sleet, for gloom of night will keep you -- thank you for braving the wet and wild weather. e.j., deanne, thanks for hanging in. you can catch chuck every weekday morning at 9:00 a.m. on msnbc. tonight more of the interview on "nbc nightly news" and in an hour-long special at 10:00 p.m. eastern on nbc. coming up, her words often defined her but does that dr. maya angelo went five years without speaking? we'll look back at the life of the renowned writer and activist coming up next. take it on the way you always have. live healthy and take one a day women's 50+. a complete multivitamin with 7 antioxidants to support cell health. age? who cares.

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and one of the most powerful voices of the african-americans in the '60s. her collection of poetry, and her collection of poetry, "phenomenal woman." she has a birthday that for years she refused to celebrate because it fell on the same date as the assassination of dr. martin luther king. as a child, angelou was raped by her mother's boyfriend tried and later convicted by murdered before he could serve b his sentence believing her words caused his death angelou did not speak for another five years. she later told this story in her widely read memoir and the six vunls that followed. she also wrote music, plays within screen plays and received an emmy nod in the role 1980 series "roots." but despite all that she gained widest acclaim in 1993 when she delivered the poem "on the pulse of morning" at president clinton's first inauguration.

in 2011 president obama awarded her with the prestigious medal of freedom and they called her a brilliant writer, a fierce friend and inspiration to his own mother who named his own sister, maya. this past december, angelou honored nelson mandela with a tribute poem, his day is done. >> his day is done. is done. the news came on the wings of a wind, reluctant to carry its burden. nelson mandela's day is done, no sun outlasts its sunset. but will rise again and bring the dawn. >> angelou had been a professor of american studies at wake forest university for more than three decades but there are many lesser known facts on her resume, she was 6 feet tall. for example, she spoke six languages, a dancer and a singer. she lived in cairo and ghana and she helped malcolm kbchlt build his new organization of african-american unity.

and she was a staunch supporter of marriage equality and she wrote in a final feet. listen to yourself in and in that quietness you might hear the voice of god but angelou's life may be lessed summed up in her poem, still i rise. you my write me down in history with your bitter, twisted lies. you may char me in the very dirt but still, like dust, i'll rise. you can shoot me with your words. you can cut me with your lies. you can kill me with your hatefulness been but just like life, i'll rise. >> the phenomenal woman, born marguerit anne johnson, a whom who became dr. angela milou. >> and the same bill never made it to a vote.

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every single year, for the past 25 years, since 1989, congressman john conyers jr. of detroit, has introduced the exact same bill, the commission to study reparation proposals for african-americans act. a bill to quote, acknowledge the fundamental injustice, cruelty, brutality and inhumanity of slavery in the united states. to establish a commission to exam men the institution of slavery and to make recommendations on appropriate remedies. in 25 years within that bill has never made it to the floor of the house for a single vote. but this month, the debate over reparations appears to be reignited. in a 15-thousands word cover story for the atlantic entitled

"the case for reparations" it's describe had with are said to be centuries of government segregation and policies that robbed black people of the ability to generate wealth. not only in the 250 years of enslavement or the 90 years of jim crow but the decades of descrimmagetory policies that followed. policies that led to the massive wealth gap that exists today. one in which why is households of median wealth 20 times as much as black households, and in which the median wealth for a single black woman is $100 and is over $41,000 for a single white woman. confronting this legacy, america's moral debt they argue, it is essential. and an america that looks away is ignores not just the sins of the past but the sins of the present and the certain since of the future. more important than any single check cut to any african-american. the payment of reparations would represent america's maturation out of the childhood myth of its

innocence into a wisdom worthy of its founders. we have national correspondent for the "atlantic" and author of this month's cover. thanks for joining me. >> thanks for having me. >> it is is and i said before, it's beyond -- so deeply thoughtful and compelling. i want to start first with what you lay out as a central problem in american society? and i'll quote you because i would do no justice paraphrasing. in america you white, there's a strange and powerful belief if you stab a black person ten times, the bleeding stops and healing begins the moments the assailant drops the knife. we believe white dominance to be a fact of the past and delinquent debt that can be made to disappear if only we don't look. i believe that. i agree with that and yet we're in a moment where the supreme court is handing down decisions based on the premise of not looking. and that looking would somehow be a racist act in and of itself.

where one of our two parties in the political system believes that acknowledging racism isn't in and of itself racist. how do we begin to look? >> i don't know how we begin to look. this is actually a question of humane society itself and that's -- is it necessary to forget certain things just to get through the day-to-day. do we have to remember ourselves in a positive way? one of the central problems i try to get to in that piece is just this idea of memory. we have no problem remembering george washington and his noble acts crossing the delaware. that's good. the genius of thomas jefferson sand agreatness of abraham lincoln and things we are ourselves have done within our recent past that don't reflect so bell on us, how do we mature into a society when we can see ourselves wholly and see everything? where we don't just telfairry

tai tell fairytales. it's like the concrete living economy that's the american system we have today and one of the most important parts about this piece is you start at the beginning which is slavery and a lot of folks don't understand the economic benefit to provided to this country on the backs of african-americans. >> right. >> you quote yale historian david w bright. in 1860 were worth more of america's manufacturing and all the railroads and all the productivity capacity of test. slaves were the single most asset of were worth. >> i knew by the time i started writing it but when i started researching that's when i was putting it together. we are know slavery was an awful thing and a moral disaster but the common american way to talk about it is we don't understand it is as central to america as

is. america wouldn't exist the way we know it today without slavery or the onset of the were war. guess where the cotton came from. the richest people in america at the onset of the civil war were planters. the mississippi valley. people who owned slaves. understanding it in that way as almost a necessity to what we are today, i think puts a different spin on it. it's not just a moral disaster, it was a economic necessity for who we are. >> and you trace the roots of slavery and the treatment of blacks as chatle in this country. let's talk 20th century policy. you paid attention to red looirning in terms of housing policy. redlining where black folks were made federally ineligible for federal property assistance. what happened between 1934 and 1968? >> one of the things this piece

is in conflict with is the idea of individual ruggedism. it's not like our pieces walked out into the wilderness and put stakes down ande imaginicly app. heavily planned. people didn't plan to live on the south side or westside by mistake and the way he hadlining worked, it's basically during the the '30s and ch 40s and into the '50s the fha elected certain homes in certain neighborhoods. virtually none of those neighborhoods were inhabited by black people and that was a deliberate position made because in the racest thought at the time, it was believed black people automatically by skin color were awful citizens and would be awful home keepers and the government shouldn't i vest in them. >> and that discrimination happens today perhaps under the vail of something else. you bring up the point about the predatory lending practicetion and the denial of med case

expansion and poorer states that disproportionately affection african-americans. let me ask you. in terms of having a black president, who is not guiding these policies but is present at a moment when policies that are not specifically racial but have decidedly, racial outcomes and racial biases, should he be doing things differently? shouldn't he be talking about race differently? >> i ask you this because in the piece you say, he's an outlier. barack and michelle obama were exceptions. but certainly there's meaning there. >> i've been pretty hard on, i think if there's anything he should be doing differently when he talks about african-americans which i think he has a lot of genuine care and concern about the fate of anniversafrican-amen this country i think the president is too vulnerable in the belief of this rugged individual ichlg. you see that in the cultural arguments he makes. but having is said that i do not

think it would be a good idea for the president to stand up and demand reparations. i don't think that would help at all. >> i say this not knowing an answer. but from your point of view should he talk more forcefully about race? >> i have to say on the whole he's done a pretty remarkable job. i just have to say this as you judge the whole thing on the whole 123450 at a very fraught time when it is something that we're not even supposed to acknowledge. >> right. >> tom, i'm sorry we don't have like two hours to discuss this. this happens every time we have a conversation about race. it should be the only thing we talk about, which i'm sure would make plenty of headlines. the piece is an incredible piece of reporting. thanks for coming to share it where us. the case for the case for reparations the latest issues of "the atlantic." thanks for your time. >> thank you. coming up, the tea is still hot in texas and it's steeped in some pretty bitter leaves.

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thomas payne wrote a pamphlet. we have it in our power to begin the world over again. six months later, these men declared that progressive idea, a goal worth fighting for. change takes courage. but first the idea. we have it in our power to begin the world over again. in february, house speaker john boehner basically ended in i hope for comprehensive integration reform in a single press conference. >> there's widespread doubt about whether this administration can be trusted to enforce our laws. and it's going to be difficult to move any immigration

legislation until that changes. >> with republicans 'hamstring by so-called trust issues, the white house moved forward with a plan of its own, to reduce the number of deportations through executive action. at the news that the white house was going to try to do something, anything on its own, republicans were predictably apoplectic. >> what do we do, mr. speaker, when a president nullifies our vote? by failing to faithfully execute the law? why pursue, mr. speaker, immigration reform, if presidents can turn off the very provisions that we pass. >> but today, for reasons that will be debated, the white house decided to give speaker boehner one more chance to pass some kind of reform. the administration has announced a delay in the review of its options of executive action on deportations until after the republican primaries this summer. as one white house official put

it, the president believes there's a window for the house to get immigration reform done this summer and he asks the secretary of homeland security, jas jay johnson. but no good deed goes unpunished given the extra time to maybe actually do something speaker boehner was indignant. enforcing the law as written, isn't a concession. it is the president's solemn responsibility wrote boehner speaks spokesman michael steele. now isn't the time to play politics with immigration enforcement or the national security. joining me now, cofounder and managing director of "united we dream." and washington bureau chief for "buzz feed." john, i'll start with you. delays not just because democrats are overcome by a spirit of good will. there's a strategy mere, right? what is it? >> the basic strategy here is to create more pressure, frankly, for the election in november. i think the white house is

looking at this and saying, we're given this extra time and it looks more like we're really attempting to try to get comprehensive immigration reform even though they know there's no chance and when they finally do something right before the election, they have a latino voting base that's already upset with republicans and that's maybe getting more engaged and more energetic and they're able to provide them something and make the republicans look bad before the election. this is all about november 2014. and not about really, the policy at hand, i think. >> christina, the political couch is at the root of this to the degree that it's transparent it's evident that is a factor here. what was your reaction to the news that there would be delay and what could be a really meaningful piece 06 policy for the families who have been split apart in recent months and years? >> it's outrageous. our network, immigrant youth, all across the country are outraged, simply outraged because the president announced

a policy review in march and now they're delays and delays really means that you're supporting the deportation of over 1,000 families every day. as we speak and have this conversation right now over 1,000 families are being deported so for us, this is unacceptable and outrageous and it fuels our campaign to continue to escalate and pressure the administration and the president to take action on administrative changes 123450 john you hear that from country see that's mouth. the activist pressure has been pronounced and it's affected this white house and this president who has not enjoyed the moniker of being the deporter in chief. why promise the release of jay johnson's review in june just to go back on that. from a strategy perspective, i don't understand that thinking. >> i think to a certain degree it reflect ace bit of a raw headed thinking in washington about the makeup of the dreamer community. i don't think they understand that for the dreamers and for the families afengted by this,

they're not like any other sort of normal democratic or republican constituency where you can string them along and give them something at the end of the day. once you're deported you're deported and you can't get back and it's difficult to get reunited with your family and the dreamers have shown over and over again they don't respond very well to this sort of traditional kinds of politic that can go o'with a lot of the other constituencies like labor, environmentalists and i think that's what you're seeing right if now. >> there was an incredibly disstiving piece in "the new york times" talking about how folks detained in america immigration were being used as indentured servants and in some cases, almost as slaves in so far as they were not being paid for the work they were doing for the u.s. federal government and in many cases they were not in the country illegally. when we talk about why it isn't going over well with the dreamers and some of the folks in the advocacy and activist community it's because it's a

human toll that's paid every day there's a delay in terms of action. >> correct. we are need to be able to hold someone accountable for all of the pain and family separation, all of the violation of due process and rights when people are getting detained and 'put in deportation proceedings in unhuman ways. the administration has acknowledged the whole the pore expectation system is inhumane. they promise a change. now they're delaying and it's completely absurd and we won't stop until we get the administration to make changes. saying that to give time to republicans, it's going to lead to immigration reform. for us the question is, we've been waiting since 2013. where is the action of republicans on immigration reform? >> john, and when you look at where the republican caucus is today, barack obama and harry

reid pushing amnesty to give illegal aliens a free ride. eric kantor is stopping this liberal plan. the language has atrophied to a remarkable degree given where we were a year ago when marco rubio was presenting a the plan like this. >> there has been rhetoric on this, particularly in the house where they leadership thought the members would be in a better meaningful position at this time of the year and when it became clear they weren't they backed away and retrenched to three years ago in terms of rhetoric which is a little remarkable, frankly. >> as much as one can scold the administration for not doing more, the true fault, the true villains in the story are the house republicans who refuse to take a vote on the bill. christina and john stanton, thank you guys both for your time. after the break, a dark red sky over texas today. ted cruz backed tea part yers

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talk radio host and fonder of the texas tea party caucus ran as a self-described true conservative. that apparently includes denouncing the quote "illegal invasion from mexico" and vowing when it comes to creationism not only should it be taught it should be triumphed. it should be heralded. in texas, it worked. patrick trounced due do you hurst and he will face his opponent this december. he wasn't the only win in the lone star state last night. ken packston also backed by ted cruz, won the nomination for attorney general while tea party backed attorney john radcliffe unseeded 17-term congressman ralph hall. the lesson? texas tea is as strong and as bitter as ever. that's all for now. see you back here tomorrow at 4:00. "the ed show" is coming up next.

good evening, americans and welcome to the ed show live from detroit lakes minnesota. i'm ready to go. let's get to work! i spent some time around ohio last week. you know, people kept asking me the same question. where are the jobs. >> the steel industry has been playing a is your value game against unfair trade now for close to 45 years. >> where are the jobs. >> agreement after agreement we're pitting the united states workers against lower paid and lower-paid workers. >> what americans are asking are where are the jobs. >> you want to do something about this economy growing? >> and wage inequality then you have to stop sending our jobs overseas. >> we're broke. america is broke. >> so why is that? >> the middle class is being offshored. >> the steel industry is product but its having to fight for its life every day. >> where the jobs. >> middle class