u.s. sports history. >> i got a call asking if i might be able to come here and do an event for joni, she didn't sit home and needle point. >> i grew up castrating hogs on an iowa farm. we're going to make them squeal, right? >> i think i know this. >> correct. >> correct. >> car bore guy ya. >> i totally know it. >> y-a -- what? [ applause ] >> the wait is over at least for veterans and more than 100 members of congress, waiting to see va secretary eric shinseki out of a job. president obama has just accepted secretary shinseki's

resignation and announced the decision after a meeting with shinseki at the white house. >> a few minutes ago eric shinseki offered me his own resignation. with considerable regret, i accepted. he worked hard to investigate and identify the problems with access to care but as he told me this morning, the va needs new leadership to address them. he does not want to be a distraction because his priority is to fix the problem and make sure our vets are getting the care they need. that was rick's judgment on behalf of his fellow veterans. and i agree, we don't have time for distractions. we need to fix the problem. >> the president went on to name va deputy sloan gibson as the temporary replacement for the job. >> i met with sloan after i met with rick this morning and made it clear reforms should not wait. they need to proceed immediately. in the meantime we'll look diligently for a new permanent

va secretary and hope to confirm that successor and fill that post as soon as possible. >> all of this fallout comes in the wake of that damning ig report unveiling systemic problems across the va system and left thousands of our nation's her rows without care. almost 9 million veterans enrolled in the system, how will this change fix the system? joining us now is chuck todd, always a pleasure to have you here, chuck. the administration said that shinseki was on thin ice, there have been a lot of calls for his resignation, how has the final outcome been received in washington? >> reporter: official washington for everybody calling for some sort of change, some sort of symbol to say, hi, the va is broken and needs to be fixed, you're seeing a lot of people both democrats and republicans praising that the president -- glad he finally did this. but all with the same thing saying, one resignation isn't

going to fix what is a systemic and predictable problem that the obama transition team found out about in 2008 and ig report back in 2004, 2006, again in 2012. these have been sort of a systemic issue that they've still not been able to figure out the different ways they try to solve it and have it work. that seems to be the collective reaction, which is glad to see symbolic move is made and the shake-up is necessary. these are the type of things that send the right message to the rest of the people down the chain of command inside the va. now the question is, who do you find to replace? this is a difficult job, got to find somebody frankly who's got a bigger personality than general shinseki. they need somebody in there that's maybe publicly -- >> chuck, are any candidates names in the mix already? >> there's no official names in the mix. i can tell you a description i

was given of someone they would like. someone perceived to be above the partisan politics of washington. so that could mean a retired republican, if you will, a retired member of the military. they would like to have somebody that does have the respect and confidence of veterans groups, that's fairly important. but frankly the single most important thing that they want on this person's resume is serious management experience but management experience with large bureaucracies, not actually necessarily private sector. frankly, don't be surprised if former directors of the onb, those actually allow you to touch and feel bureaucracies in a way that is very difficult, that you don't have at the private sector. >> it sounds like based on the ig report, this is a particularly snarled sprawling bureaucracy.

it's a lot for whoever to step into the role to contend with. sloan gibson got a lot of praise from president obama today. what do we know about him? >> he's only been in the job about three months. he was just put in there and came from the uso. that's about -- obviously has a military background. i can tell you that's a lot of times these va folks come -- come from if they are not directly from the military, then they go from the military to one of these va groups, maybe it's vfw or american legion, military support groups. a common way for managers to get picked and political appointments into the va system. do they go a different direction this time for the cabinet secretary? and maybe find someone who's first expertise is with management and maybe they don't have a direct connection to the military. >> it seems this is a step this town neepded to take and veterans community needed but

the work is just beginning. >> with more on the fallout, i'm joined by nbc's newest senior political reporter, perry bacon and paul cain. perry, before the president's remarks were done, the rnc had a statement out, while we're eager to see the president finally engaging on this issue, this has never been about a single person or single resignation. it's past time for the president to step up and fix this mess. personnel changes aren't the answer to the problem for the veterans, it's just musical chairs. of course, this is following on 66 republican congress people and 13 senators calling on him to step down, implying this was the answer. is this a change in tune? >> it is a change in tune a bit. you've seen a lot of democrats in close races and allison grimes of kentucky and mark udall in colorado calling for

resignation. no matter where you were situated, you were in a swing state, this was a good place to distance yourself from president obama. i'm not surprised reince priebus was calling for him to resign now saying it's not enough. >> paul, to say the same question to you on the other side of the aisle, for these democrats who already staked their reputation on this as a campaign issue, what's next politically? >> i think politically for them they hope that this sort of takes the attention away from the issue so they can get back to their campaigns focused on local issues. what the republicans are trying to do and john boehner spoke to that in the capitol, he wanted -- boehner never called for shinseki to resign. to your point, ronan, he was trying to get the focus entirely on both obama, himself and the

care for the veterans. so i think the next step here is going to be confirmation hearings once they have somebody in place. and that -- depending on how long it takes, you can look at mid to late july. >> it has to be said also, even reince priebus did not ask for resignation. actually, i happen to think that boehner's reaction was particularly measured and did keep the focus on the underlying problems which i respect. the reaction we've gotten first from the democratic group of senators who came out against shinseki before this announcement from the president was from mark warner, i honor general hin seckky's service and service, his decision to go. now we have to focus on fixing va, our veterans deserve our best efforts. what is the democratic reaction to this perry signal about the support or lack there of that the president has from his base? >> it tells me the first

senators opposed to this were the people up in 2014. it tells me -- you saw very -- the senators of congressman that broke from the president on this issue and urge this are people who feel like they are in danger and weary about obama care as well, some kind of group -- same who say we want to fix obama care and change it, same group now calling to resign. it tells me they are worried about republicans and independents in their state and probably less of a base problem, that democrats won't turn -- they need a certain number of swing voters to win. they feel this issue is a problem for them in the same way they thought obama care in november and december when the website was not working would be a problem as well. >> to keep that comparison going, when he didn't accept kathleen sebelius during the botched rollout, there was a similar kind of outcry. what's the difference between the two cases? >> i think -- >> go ahead, paul. >>. okay, i think the key difference there is just veterans

themselves. they are such a revered group of people. we're living in an era in which america is just losing faith in all of its institutions from the catholic church to ncaa, to let's face it, reporters and certainly congress. but veterans themselves are still held in such high regard by almost all americans. you just can't have them -- these guys weren't even getting in the building to get appointments. and it just became unsustainable fact to have them denied the most basic type of health care. so i think that was the real, real back breaker here. >> and radless of the deep importance of health care, there wasn't deaths as a result as in this case. >> an unexpected take on the shinseki resignation and the fallout that is just now blossoming from that. we turn to a vet and former talk

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va secretary eric shinseki had an appointment with the president, wait time, zero seconds. >> i think rick's judgment that he could not carry out the next stages of reform without being a distraction himself. my assessment was unfortunately he was right. he is a very good man. i don't just mean he's an accomplished man and he's been an outstanding soldier. he's a good person.

who has done exemplary work on our behalf. >> a nice ouster but an ouster nonetheless. it's something many have been calling for from congress to veterans community itself. it's partly because this is such an emotional issue for so many. especially for those who claim to have lost loved ones as a result of those swelling wait times at va hospitals. sally barnes breen is one of that number and appeared on the show twice before. she blames the va hospital in phoenix for the loss of her father-in-law, thomas breen, who died from cancer last november. he's sally barnes breen reacting moments ago to the news that shinseki stepped down. >> it doesn't appease me at all in the least that they fired everybody, no. they need to fix the va now because people are still in the emergency room suffering trying to get an appointment. >> so will this satisfy the veterans community? does it bring us any closer to fixing the underlying very real

problems here? i'm joined now by montel williams, 22 year marine veteran and emmy award winning talk show host. >> thanks for having me. >> last week you said firing secretary shinseki wasn't going to cut it. what more do you think they should be doing? >> let's put it in context. i know the top head has to come off but we have to look and everybody said the same thing, systemic problem didn't start with president obama, this has been a problem for the last 30 years. we need to stop the reviewing and waiting for reviews and reports to come in to take action today. the president can take action today. first thing he did in his speech earlier, since last friday, i've had -- not just me, there are people around the country embrace the idea of #va surge all over america, guess what, in the president's speech if we don't have enough doctors -- i have another one to listen to.

today he can say and probably take an executive order, he can allow every single one of those veterans in a waiting list allow them to go to an active duty military hospital or clinic. he could ask each branch of the service to august meant those clinics today with personnel who just left the service to help clear the backlog. >> give them other options right now. >> and do it within the military. if we say let's send them over to local hospitals. i'm not trying to say or dispairage local care, but veterans have a very unique set of issues. if a veteran comes in suffering from ptsd and can't explain this malady, they need -- >> they need specialized care. >> let's get the baseline, clear the backlog and you can do it today by allowing them to regular into a regular base hospital. >> those bases are overwhelmed often of the they have not bases that have a surge of doctors. >> we do a surge.

call upon veterans who just came off active duty still in the reserves. he can bring them back on active duty in something call tem act, i left active duty in 1988. i stayed with the military, wore my uniform for in the next four years under temporary orders, back and forth speaking for the military, going around and talking to kids an recruiting them to go into the service. if they can do that then -- we can do that today with a stroke of a pen and clear the backlog. we're going to wait for another study and i get it, the new appointee. >> there is talk of saying wait, wait for more results and surveys. >> please, stop the wait. today. if they open up doors to bases, we know out of every veteran is, they have dd 214s and documentation at a proves who you are. if you are waiting more than 18 months for an appointment, walk

to your base closest to you and go in and by next week, you will be treated. why? because this weekend we're going to go to the local reserves and call up -- if it's 50 or 60, we can put them on tem act orders. >> that's a proposal that's gaining mounting support but doesn't solve of the long-term problems. there are a lot of people chiming in on that. senator john mccain chimed in earlier, he was disturbed in his remarks president obama appeared to believe the only real problem is a scheduling issue and said the president must join with congress to support legislation. we will introduce next week to strengthen the ability of va administrators to hire and fire within the system. do you think that's the root of the problem? >> that's more pliltizing, it's a joke. stop pointing fingers and back and forth. all you have to do, we guys in the military. watch this. i guarantee you they are going to tweet you about this. tweet over here today to ronan and say to him, montel is kind of right.

soldiers don't lech soldiers behind. that's what we're trained for. why not let soldiers help solve this problem. there are active duty bases all over america. there are clinics run by military members all over america right now. augment them. the cost would not be as much as you think. >> you mentioned this is political. do you think our troops are being exploited politically? >> no question. i said this last friday before this whole thing of me being in the middle snow balled. i had media outlets nothing but a media who are. i spent 22 years in the military and put my life on the line for this country. how dare you say that about me? i have support and defend my brothers until my last breath. i've been doing this for the last years cooking for soldiers and visiting troops at walter reed and bethesda for four years

without any press. i demand the press doesn't come. if it needs this big mouth to do so, i'm here to be the big mouth. >> thank you for that call to action and thank you for your service. >> thank you, sir. >> pleasure to have you here. >> up next, what's really behind the rumored price tags for the l.a. clippers? [announcer] if your dog can dream it, purina pro plan can help him achieve it. ♪ driving rock/metal music stops ♪music resumes music stops ♪music resumes [announcer] purina pro plan's bioavailable formulas deliver optimal nutrient absorption. [whistle] purina pro plan. nutrition that performs. [ girl ] my mom, she makes underwater fans

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developers! >> wow. >> for a little perspective, this is the highest bid in nba history. 550 million was the previous high in the nba franchise paid earlier for the milwaukee bucks. also the second highest for any team in any league ever. second only to 2.1 billion, that was the price tag back in 2012 for the dodgers. is this franchise worth it? is donald sterling being punished at all and what's up with steve bollmer, drew, it's a pleasure to have you back. >> hey. >> nba released a statement, commissioner silver said the preferred outcome to the clippers proceed would be a voluntary sale of the team. donald sterling's attorneys are saying they are not happy. it's not a done deal. if he resists can the nba force this through? >> i don't know that it's clear. i think the team is technically owned by the sterling family trust and shelly sterling is

asserting that she's in charge of that. and that donald is just a crazy old man, which would sort of preclude the comments they got on. she said he was delusional. >> old and delusional which would make all of the reasons that he's losing the team to begin with. you just -- you just took advantage of a senile old man. >> he was just a victim in all of this, that's it. >> i think it's a mess because sterling clearly doesn't want to sell the team because he's an old lamp that will hang on to everything for life. i i don't know it's clear exactly who has the right to sell the team. >> it is an owned property and typically can't just yank those away, bigotry or not. it's tough on all sides. let's look at other teams, cow boys, 2.1 billion and new england patriots 1.6 billion. i think that would be more. >> now that the clippers sale

has gone for 2 billion -- >> right, does that raise the bar for everybody? >> yes, i think that would inflate the price of any nfl team above $2 billion. i don't see how they would be worth less than what the clippers sold you because the revenue sharing that the nfl has right now. >> do you think it's at all worth it? >> it depends on what the future sales in television for the clippers and nba are worth. look, it's a club. it's a prestigious owners club and people like belonging to it and that's why it was worth it to donald sterling to keep hanging onto it and potentially fight it if he wants to fight against his family for the sale to not go through. these rich guys, it's nothing to them. the money is not anything. it's the status and pride and being able to walk into the stadium and look around at 20,000 people and say this is mine.

i own this. and that's what you're buying, what you're buying for $2 billion. >> whatever the outcome of this, receiving $2 billion after the blowback he's gotten is not going to sit well with everyone reacting to this. one more question before you go. the big story is the redskins fighting back against senator harry reid and number of others who called for the team -- >> pride. >> it does seem like it's high time, right? they've been asking fans to show support on twitter and facebook and there are a lot of people chiming in, maybe more than we would care to think. is this about protecting a brand from a pragmatic standpoint or should this be about more? >> well, i think for the team, to me, the actual team name redskins is not nearly as offensive as the team's efforts to whitewash it and push it through and have this gross, you know, north korean style pr campaign to protect it and say heritage and pride, this is all of our pride. we're under attack. >> it's really a tough sell.

it's redskins. >> like we have to circle the wagons otherwise people will change our name -- >> poor choice of words in this particular story. >> it's just sort of gross and insufficieincere on their effor most people can see through that. if they had a legitimate argument to change the name i would happily listen to it. but the way they go about it is so venal, it turns more people away than they can imagine. >> tell us what you really feel, drew. always a pleasure to have you here. >> it happened in the wee small hours this morning and it can finally offer justice to hundreds of thousands of american women. find out what congress actually accomplished while you were sleeping. next. wondering what that is? that, my friends, is everything. and with the quicksilver card from capital one, you earn unlimited 1.5% cash back on everything you purchase.

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something? well, i never. this time it could actually be a game changer for ending america's backlog of rape kits. in the we small hours this morning, they voted to approve the 2015 fiscal year commerce and science appropriations bill. that bill includes tens and millions of dollars in grants to finally test the 400,000 rape kits sitting on shelves ignored nationwide. down to the wire amendment proposed by tennessee congressman steve cohen added an additional $5 million, bringing the total to $41 million. you saw this as part of the call to action and tweeted, my amendment to add $5 million to end the backlog just passed the u.s. house. the road to ending the backlog isn't over. in fact, it's just beginning. the senate appropriations committee is expected to markup its own version of the bill on tuesday.

joining me now, ranking member of the house appropriations committee. thank you for being here. >> my pleasure, ronan. >> you described this as truly outrageous, how important is this legislation to you? sfwl surviving sexual assault is one of the most traumatic experiences in a woman's life. and to think that there were 400,000 and counting kits with evidence sitting on a shelf is as tounding. new york had a 17,000 person backlog. and they increased the arrest rate from 40 to 70%. this is essential. we've got to deal with it and i'm very pleased that we were able to fight for $41 million. this will lead to evidence collection and analysis and prosecution. >> we had very much the same reaction to this story. it is startling and seems

unthinkable that all of the cases, potential people who need to be brought to justice and potential victims who have no justice are still out there sitting on shelves. it's my understanding though that this legislation could still falgs a tough road ahead in the senate. >> well, i feel very confident that working with the senate we can include this $41 million. i'm going to make sure that happens. look, to think that there are rapists on the street because their evidence is sitting on a shelf in some policeman's locker instead of being analyzed and then prosecuted, doesn't make any sense. we're going to work together. we have support from men and women. we're going to get this legislation passed in the senate. and the experience that new york city had with its backlog, i hope will be replicated in every community around the country because it's essential. >> i know a lot of people watching share that hope. the mayor of memphis was on the

program yesterday. he told us he thinks this is farmly a consequence of sexism, of law enforcement turning a blind eye to too many women's claims. do you agree with that assessment? if not, what do you think led to this problem nationwide? >> i can't analyze why it's happening. maybe they were focusing on other areas in their community, but what's most important now, we have 41 million. it's going to be distributed around the country in areas that have to move forward on the prosecution. these kits can't sit on the shelf. i was shocked when i found out about it and that's why i moved on the appropriations committee to get the 41 million. there was a group of us that couldn't believe this happened. and new york city is a perfect example as i mentioned. 17,000 and prosecutions went from 40% to 70%. this is the most traumatic experience that a woman can possibly have and this has to be closed and we have to put these

rapists behind bars. >> and the example you just cited shows you can do it. these backlogs can be cleared. i know this legislation will help a great deal and all of the law enforcement officials reporting on the story and victims said it would make a big difference. we appreciate your keeping in on this and championing this. we had to ask, what's your reaction to eric shinseki's resignation. >> i've been sitting through hearings for months. it's clear to me this is about the veterans. this is about providing health care to veterans. this is a systemic problem through the va and we've got to provide leadership and to make sure the veterans in every place in our country get the health care they deserve. they have served our country, the thought that some veterans were waiting months or even more to get service is an abomination. we've got to clear this up. and new leadership at the va, i hope will address and i will push to make sure that it's

addressed as my position on appropriations. we're going to follow this very closely. there will be criminal investigations and those who are responsible have got to be brought to justice. >> thank you so much, congresswoman lowey. >> for our call to action this week, add your signature to our letter to chairs of house and senate appropriations committees urging them to assure the ininclusion of the $41 million in funding in the 2015 appropriations bill to help clear this backlog of rape kits across the u.s. you just heard from congresswoman lowey that intends to keep fighting. you can find this on our website. next on "rfd", they are called honor killings. find out about the shocking ep dem he can of violence against women and what can you do about it. mom! awesome!

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steoned to death while pregnant, the crime of choosing to marry the wrong person. that's what happened this week to parveen, for 15 minutes, she was battered with bricks and struck with batons, an attack carried out by members of her own family. >> she was killed with bricks by her brother, by her father and by her uncles. this happened in full view of the police, none of them intervened to save her. there were onlookers who watched this woman being stoned to death. >> parveen was murdered for marrying this man, not the man her family arranged for her. her death is part of a horrific epidemic known as honor killing. sts estimated 5,000 women die in these honor killings every year. this one unlike thousands of others is getting international attention because honor killings are rarely carried out in public. this one was, agonizingly so,

outside a courthouse. joining me, the founder and ceo of women for women international and director of the afghan women's mission and author of bleeding afghanistan. in a really terrible twist, this woman's husband admitted he killed his first wife in a similar way so he can marry the latest wife, who is now deceased. how pervasive is this culture? >> you know, this is a problem that you see in many parts of the world. what it is, the extreme end of a massageny, not relegated to one culture, we see even in the united states as we saw last friday with a young man in santa barbara promising to slaughter every woman that was going to cross his path for the crime of never sleeping with him. i mean, this is part of a culture that per vads our s

socie societies, it doesn't matter. this is an extreme part of it. and we have to be careful when we point fingers at one culture or another. however, what's remarkable what's happening in pakistan and indian and afghanistan, you also have huge outpourings from communities on a ground. you heard him speaking out, educated people speaking out saying we will not tolerate this. that must be celebrated. and that too is part of a culture. >> and on this question of how attributable this is to specific kulg toural settings. there was a recent story in sudan where a woman is about to be potentially subjected to the same consequence for marrying a nonmuslim. do you think this is a problem that's specific to any one faith? >> no, not at all. it's a problem about how we look at woman as an entitlement that they belong to their families.

and so the state always treats women as their priorities that they belong to their families and husbands and sons can do anything to them. >> property. >> absolutely, property. whether in the case in pakistan, it was a financial case, they wanted the husband to pay more and he refused. and so same with sudan, it's about the property, she belongs to me thus i can do anything -- now, to change that, this is not about religion. in all religions they have that. in all cultures they have that. >> all religions have a history of violence. >> absolutely. this is how we view women as equal citizens, how the state review what happens to women as not the property of their families but as a citizenship of the country where they need to be, one father does that or rapist or student in america, the repercussion for such violence needs to be so high that it would be deter ent for me man to do it. right now it is not high enough.

right now there's still tolerance against violence against women. there's no -- there's no outrage about it. that's the first step on what we need to do to shift the mentality from an accepted, it's just women, to no, the price is very high. >> zainab, we saw this hash tag explode around the world and wanting to lend their voice against this problem of objectifying women, sometimes with deadly consequences. what tangible steps can the american take to lends their voice not just in a symbolic way but push real action? >> one is supporting local women's organization, be it local organization in santa barbara or in afghanistan or pakistan or sudan. this is actually has been proven to be the most effective way to create change by educating women and giving them economic opportunities. but another way is legal reform and making sure the application of the training of the police force be it in america or pakistan, that is this wrong and not to be tolerated. the third thing, we need to

educate more men. we need more men to join women in saying that this is not acceptable. 35% of women worldwide are facing sexual assault or sexual harsment, that does not mean 35% of men are doing that. it means less than 10% of men are doing that. we need the rest of the men to speak up and reach out to each other to say this is not tolerable. >> i know a lot of people of all genders watching right now hope that call is heard. we're going to stay with this story and both of you right now. they are going to weigh in on another different international stories. cossacks, not the group you remember from history class anymore. cossacks 2.0 up ahead. she keeps you on your toes. you wouldn't have it any other way. but your erectile dysfunction - it could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use

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the rise of nationalism in russia. and now that extends to the resurgence of a legendary group of militants. fierce horsemen with roots deep in the kremlin. called the cossacks. they're revered in russia. much like cowboy or minute men are here in the united states. and as our partners reveal, despite complicated legacies that are both violent and tragic, the cossacks are back. ♪ >> reporter: it was one of the most shocking images from the 2014 olympics. a group of punk rockers beaten by men with whips. the women and their supporters are members of the now famous band pussy riot. the band and their friends, male and female, went to sochi to make a music video criticizing

russian leader vladimir putin. as soon as they started to sing, some nearby patrolmen, part of a contingent of cossacks, swooped in. >> he just hit me with a guitar neck on the head. i was bleeding, blood all over my face. >> reporter: the cossacks have lived in russia and ukraine for centuries. in imperial times, they were known as the czar's henge men, fierce men making enemies of the state pay with blood. now the orthodox christian blood line is making a comeback. >> translator: a cossack without faith is not a cossack. in this particular case, pussy roid offended our feelings. apparently the cossacks took this decision and god will judge them, not us. >> reporter: alexander corbin lives in southern russia. he makes his living as a cossack patrolmen. >> translator: we are at the command of the policemen.

without the policemen, we do not take decisions about arresting someone. >> translator: do you have weapons? >> translator: no, but we are allowed to carry whips. whips are the national cossacks weapon. >> reporter: in various campaigns to defend the mother land over the years, cossacks are credited with murdering tens of thousands of jews, muslims and turks. >> translator: there were mountain ethnic groups living here, but then they got dispersed. cossacks were needed not only to inhabit the lands, but also to protect the borders of the territory. >> reporter: over the past few hundred years, cossacks secured a reputation as battle hardened horse men, who put fear in their enemies' hearts. this video shot about 15 years ago shows cossacks harassing turks. this kind of violent crackdown is what used to be called a pogrum in this part of the

world, which means one group of people killing another because of their religion or ethnicity. today, we call it ethnic cleansing. ♪ every sunday cossacks march down one of southern russia's main streets. the pageantry represents a revival for both the cossacks and russia. >> translator: nowadays i think the cossacks are the core that is the base and hopes of many russians. many people hope russia will be restored and think that cossacks, that we are truly the core of a new revival of russia. >> reporter: it is not accident that the cossacks traditions are re-emerging at the same time vladimir putin aggressively promotes his program of russian nationalism. including the annexization of crimea. >> russia couldn't watch what was happening. the genocide of the russian people is happening. if necessary, we can, as all the patriots of our country, of our

region, we can take to weapons if it was necessary. >> reporter: a photo emerged recently, a russian cossack warrior in full glory, standing with pro russian militants in east ukraine. i'm fighting against american evil, he said. >> translator: imagine that somewhere in the u.s. and texas, tomorrow, cowboys say this is our land, we have lived here, and we want our own order here. cowboys order. and they'll put on cowboy hats, checkered shirts, jeans, and start walking in the streets together with the policemen and make their own order. and the ground of this is our land and let's revive old cowboy traditions. >> thank you to our partners at evocative for that report. we're back with zanab and zanali. before we get their reaction to that piece and that important emergence of that group in russia, we're going to go to president obama in the briefing

room. listen live. >> but jay had to wrestle with this decision for quite some time. he's been on my team since day one. for two years with the vice president and for the past three and a half years as my press secretary. and it has obviously placed a strain on claire, his wife, and his two wonderful kids hugh o a della. dell wa della's little league team i saw the other day and she's a fine pitcher but he wasn't seeing enough of the games. jay was a reporter for 21 years before coming to the white house, including a stint as moscow bureau chief for "time" magazine during the collapse of the soviet empire. so he comes to this place with a reporter's perspective. that's why i believe it or not he will miss hanging out with all of you, including the guys

in the front row. but, jay has become one of my closest friends and is a great press secretary. and a great adviser. he's got a good judgment, a good temperament and he's got a good heart. and i'm going to miss him a lot. i will continue to rely on him as a friend and adviser after he leaves to spend as much of the summer as he can with his kids before he decides to -- what's next for him. whatever it is, i know he's going to be outstanding at it. of course, that means i had to make a decision, which is who succeeds jay and we have got enormous talent around here. but i've decided that we're going to put in this -- in this slot somebody who is also a friend and adviser.

so today the flag jacket is officially passed to a new generation, mr. josh ernst. josh is a coach's son from kansas city. he still roots for the royals, i guess. >> sure he does. >> as you know, his name describes his demeanor. josh is an earnest guy. and you can't find just a nicer individual. even outside of washington. the country, of course, knows him for his golden voice and dulset tones on west wing week, the biggest viral internet hit since between two ferns. but josh and i have an incredible history going all the way back to the iowa caucuses.

josh was my iowa communications director. and even when he was in that role, you would find him spending an extra hour or two helping young staffers make phone calls or knock on doors. there was no task that was too small, no detail too unimportant for josh to attend to. at the white house, he's been a mentor to many of the young people here who i know are thrilled for him today. he is of sound judgment and great temperament. he is honest and full of integrity, and i'm sure you will at some point get frustrated with him as well. but it is going to be hard because he's a straight shooter. and a great guy. so my request is that be nice to jay on his farewell tour. and be nice to josh during his initiation, which i'm sure will

last maybe two days or perhaps two questions. we're going to let him hang around a little bit to milk it for all it's worth. thank you, guys. >> thank you. >> breaking news, this is the reid report, i'm jonathan capehart joining in for joy reid where we heard from president obama. press secretary jay carney is stepping down. and we start with breaking news out of washington. and an answer to the question everyone's been asking. i'm sorry, we now have nbc white house correspondent kristen welker there on pebble beach. kristen, quite a surprising announcement today from the president. >> jonathan, i'm literally picking my jaw up off of the ground. i was not expecting that and i have to tell you, the rest of the press core to my knowledge didn't get a heads up about this. this really was a surprise announcement. that is rare at this white house for