is over but, of course, it is over without us having won it. >> this year we will bring america's longest war to a responsible end. >> we must stop the terror. >> this is what happens at the end of the wars that you try to make sure you get your folks back. >> i think they have, in fact, negotiated with terrorists. >> we didn't negotiate with terrorists. >> this so-called trade i don't think they got a very good deal. >> we still get an american soldier back if he is held in captivity. period. we don't condition that. >> i call upon all nations to do everything they can to stop these terrorist killers. thank you. >> i don't know the whole story. i'm just following the news reports at this point. >> good to have you with us tonight. thanks for watching. always remember it is good to know the whole story before you start running your mouth isn't

it? republicans are still extremely upset that a united states prisoner of war was traded for five gitmo detainees. these guys, as i said before, they have no limits. they can't stand president obama making this deal. every single thing president obama does republicans oppose. the president saved a u.s. soldier's life and they are outraged? why? it doesn't match up with the history of what they have said in the past. we'll show you why. republicans i guess would have left sergeant bowe bergdahl back in afghanistan because of speculation that he didn't do the right thing. ted cruz, john mccain, lindsey graham and mike rogers who thinks he will be a talk radio star have made it clear that they think this is a horrible deal. on monday former vice president dick cheney not to be outdone decided to crawl out of his bunker. the guy who brought us war on

iraq thinks president obama made a horrible deal on bergdahl. cheney said president obama made a huge mistake negotiating with terrorists. >> i think they have, in fact, negotiated with terrorists. i don't think they got a very good deal. as we look at it what has transpired here part and parcel of a larger policy that we are in the midst of withdrawal from iraq without leaving stay behind forces there, no u.s. forces there today. we are getting ready to withdraw completely from afghanistan. we are retreating from the area. and this so-called trade for bergdahl with five of the top taliban terrorists strikes me as part and parcel of that same unwise policy. >> well, as the guy who never turns down a good war cheney should know better. of course, the taliban is dangerous and a horrible organization. they have harbored al qaeda but

the taliban and al qaeda are two different organizations. the taliban is not on the state department list of terrorist groups. this isn't the first time we have spoken to the taliban. just last year it was announced we started peace negotiations. now, if you recall there was no conservative outrage back then. this negotiating with terrorist line is a lie to slam the president of the united states. next cheney questions sergeant bergdahl's character. >> well, apparently i don't know the whole story and following the news stories that he left voluntarily, left his post, was awol in effect, that there were lives of american troops put at risk in their search for him after he was taken. and now we are in a situation where we have released five of the top terrorists that we held

at guantanamo in order to bring him home. now, i'm glad for his family. everybody is obviously pleased that that is transpiring here. >> it is very interesting that dick cheney says that there were lives put at risk by going to look for this guy and rescue the sergeant. since when do military personnel get to pick and choose what mission they are going to go on. they are told to do something because that is what they signed up for and then they bravely go do it. someone is responsible for that just like cheney should be responsible. cheney admits he doesn't know the full story but is willing to talk about it and fuel the speculation. he is not a hero. we don't know. then he goes on to trash the guy. reports of him going awol we need to make sure everyone knows is unconfirmed and total speculation. the military will find out. cheney should wait to get all of

the facts to be confirmed before running his mouth. if bergdahl did do something wrong the military will take action. you can count on it. they are well suited to do so regardless of all of that as an american soldier bergdahl deserves to come home. cheney didn't stop there. he isn't happy with the gitmo detainees to be released. he thought it was a bad deal. >> i think we violated a basic tenant first of all in negotiating with terrorists but secondly in releasing five of the most deadly terrorists that we had at guantanamo. >> i think there is a distinct possibility that these five will go back into the battle. when you have people this highly motivated the deputy taliban commander for defense, deputy in the intelligence bureau, these people are most likely to go back and once again launch

strikes or attacks against americans, against our friends and allies in the region. >> dick cheney is living in a fantasy land. he keeps talking about the five will go back into the fight. did any of the 500 gitmo detainees who were released from guantanamo under cheney's watch get back in the fight? can he give us a guarantee they didn't? many were done without congressional approval. must have been some executive authority thing they are against now. meanwhile, if cheney and bush had done their job correctly in 2002 we wouldn't be dealing with this mess today. here is what bush thought of osama bin laden just six months after 9/11. >> mr. president, in your speeches you rarely talk or mention osama bin laden. why is that? >> deep in my heart i know the man is on the run if he is alive at all. and who knows if he is hiding in some cave or not. we haven't heard from him in a

long time. and the idea of focusing on one person is really indicating that people don't understand the scope of the mission. so i don't know where he is. i just don't spend that much time on it to be honest with you. >> let's go back to the days where people just don't understand anything, right? let's get this straight. dick cheney is outraged that five members of the taliban were traded for an american p.o.w. but six months after 9/11 the bush administration's position they could care less about the whereabouts of osama bin laden? and cheney is outraged? no. he is outrageous is what he is. it is clear cheney's comments are out of hate for the president of the united states. he wants him to fail. in fact, it was back in 2009 right after the inauguration, just weeks after that dick cheney came out, the first republican to come out and criticize a very popular

president saying he didn't have this country on a war footing. i remember. meanwhile, this barrage of republican outrage has president obama, of course, defending his position. >> regardless of the circumstances, whatever those circumstances may turn out to be, we still get an american soldier back if he is held in captivity. period. we don't condition that. and that's what every mom and dad who sees a son or daughter sent over to war theater should expect from not just their commander in chief but the united states of america. >> very interesting sound byte. president obama exactly right. we don't get to pick and choose what troops we rescue. that is not the american way. if you are an american serving overseas and you get captured

you deserve to come home regardless of the circumstances. in other words, the president is willing to allow the inquiry. the president wants to know exactly what happened. that man signed up military service in uniform and he is coming home. that is the commander in chief's job. that is his call. here is one thing for sure. if that were dick cheney's kid over there we could probably bet that kid would be at home years ago. the other thing about dick cheney that i find so interesting that he has been famous for talking about we don't want to leave soldiers out on the field. in fact, he was willing to make sure that scooter libby didn't have to fall on his sword. you remember scooter libby? the guy that was the convicted felon because of obstruction of justice and perjury who was later disbarred. the guy that lied to investigators about the outing of a cia agent. you see back then dick cheney

thought that george w. bush should not have left scooter libby hanging out there like a soldier in the field. here is the interview with president bush. >> i let the jury verdict stand after serious deliberation. and the vice president was angry. >> when you told him you said he was furious. he said i can't believe you are going to leave a soldier on the battlefield. >> so president bush confirms that dick cheney is famous for saying that we shouldn't leave a soldier out on the field. so he was willing to do something for scooter libby but calls this deal for sergeant bergdahl who was in a combat situation who did serve and didn't get five deferments, we can't do a deal for him. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question, who do you trust on national security? dick cheney or president obama? text a for dick cheney. text b for president obama to

67622. you can always go to our blog and leave a comment there. we will bring you the results later on in the show. for more let me bring in colonel lawrence wilkerson, former chief of staff, secretary of staff. picking and choosing whose life is valuable. does dick cheney have a right to criticize the deal when we don't have the facts? your reaction to this? >> my reaction is i am amazed that anybody will give dick cheney air time anymore. i know it was fox news the only channel that will give him air time. it is amazing that this man who before the vfw guaranteed us with iron clad language that george bush had not seen before he gave the speech that saying

had weapons of mass destruction. this man who as you carefully pointed out orchestrated the down fall of valerie flame and had his chief of staff indicted for obstruction of justice because of it, this man who got five deferments himself and is a draft dodger is still listened to even on fox news. i find it amazing that he gets air time. >> your reaction to cheney saying that scooter libby shouldn't have been left on the battlefield? obviously we are talking about the legal process in place that the vice president wanted to see scooter libby pardoned by the president. >> i think that was one of the moments including i believe november 2006 release or firing of donald rumsfield that showed me that at least president bush had finally awakened to the fact that much of his administration,

mostly national security and foreign policy had been usurp and that cheney perpetrated a lot of dastardly deeds, one the outing of valerie and the attempt to get her husband ambassador joe wilson and the mixing of some of the staff. the comment about leaving soldiers on the battlefield i find risible because cheney has never been a soldier. he went out of his way not to be a soldier, five deferments as you pointed out and in my view shouldn't be speaking about things military because he has absolutely zero knowledge of things military. i say that even though i served with general powell when he was chairman and cheney was secretary of defense. the beauty of that administration was not dick cheney. the beauty was george h.w. bush and colin powell.

>> colonel, what about dick cheney's thoughts on staying in iraq and afghanistan? and i also want to ask you about, do you think he is the attack dog for the conservatives in this country when it comes to foreign policy because he has nothing to lose? i cite it back to the spring of 2009 when president obama was enjoying some tremendous ratings, the country was moving forward trying to because the economy was bad. president was in high popularity and the republicans really didn't know how to handle this so they ended up doing a bunch of obstruction. it was dick cheney who made the first case against this president saying we are not on a war footing. this has been a pattern of criticism no matter what this president does cheney is there. is he the chosen attack dog in all of this scheme? >> i think there is some of that. i will tell you my real opinion on this is that even people like

lindsey graham and john mccain and ted cruz and others who are in the limelight for political reasons, political opportunism more than anything else and their opposition of president obama come hell or high water they have problems with dick cheney coming out. dick cheney comes out for dick cheney. he is dick cheney's attack dog. dick cheney comes out because dick cheney thinks he should come out. i think it is time the american people figure this out and quit listening to the man. very frankly he is not an expert on anything anymore. most of the time when he speaks out he is speaking out for some visceral dislike for the way he was treated when he left office which was in my view not as badly as he should have been treated. he is trying to regain ground every time he comes out. >> what about the 500 detainees released under the bush and cheney administration on their watch?

does he think nobody is paying attention? did any of these 500 who were released, how can he be so outraged over five? >> we know through military sources and intelligence sources that some of the 500 did return to the battlefield. it is a very egregious statement for him to make after having presided over that and having presided over 200 or 300 or 400, the records will never show us they were actually innocent in prison in places like afghanistan and guantanamo and elsewhere. here is the essence of what cheney is obscuring here and all of the republicans who have commented on so far and that is what i talked about yesterday in that this is a possible first move and it is a first move in a negotiation that might be taking place, hopefully will take place to bring about some kind of reconciliation in afghanistan

where the reconciliation is sorely needed if we are going to remove troops there and will be reasonably safe and the new government will be successful. this could be the beginning of that. look who they turn loose. they did not turn loose people on the battlefield killing american troops. they turn loose people who we recognize as a government of afghanistan before october 2001. they turn loose people who might be those kinds who can go back and speak with the current leadership of the taliban and through qatar and other good offices perhaps affect reconciliation to give the new president in afghanistan a better chance for the future. >> certainly understandable but apparently over dick cheney's head on that one. great to have you. appreciate your time. >> thanks for having me. remember to answer tonight's question at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter and on facebook.

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that is what the president did. while lots of chicken littles are coming out we need less chicken littles and more inspector gadgets coming up with solutions to help us get to cleaner energy. >> are these democrats wrong to run away from president obama's environmental protection agency new standards that will cut carbon emissions about 30% by the year 2030? >> democrats and republicans are absolutely wrong who are trying to say this is going to be a job killer or this is going to mean losing elections. the majority are realizing it is just wrong. when you read the report you actually realize that the e.p.a. is talking about going from 39% coal nationwide to 30% coal by

2030. that doesn't mean zero coal meaning less coal which opens up up the market for diversified energy portfolio. >> these regulations are not one size fits all. each state has the opportunity to reduce the emissions the way they want to do it with a number of options. i think that leaves the door open for a lot of republican obstruction. how do you think that is going to play out? do you think republican governors are going to go along with this? >> here is the beautiful thing. if we look at obamacare you saw a lot of republican governors who are filing lawsuits and doing all sorts of really stupid things in order to protect -- they should be protecting the health of folks in their state. this is why i am excited. i think that this means that there will be 50 experiments in 50 states. nebraska may do something very different than states in the northeast. and we should. right now nebraska is 85% coal. that is not a very smart energy

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show". thanks for watching tonight. tonight is the largest primary night of 2014. with voters in eight states heading to the polls it's a big night for iowa republicans looking for the chance to grab tom harkin's senate seat. he is retiring. according to a poll taken days ago joni ernst is a double digit leader. ernst has been backed by the tea party, mitt romney and half term governor sarah palin. this commercial might be why palin is such a big fan. >> on an iowa farm. when i get to washington i know how to cut pork. i approve this message because washington is full of big spenders. let's make them squeal. >> ernst isn't the only tea party approved candidate relying

on stunts like this. when terry came under fire for opposing equal rights she responded with this dandy. >> congressman peters and his buddies want you to believe i'm waging a war on women. really? think about that for a moment. i'm terry lynn land and i approve this message because as a woman where might know a little more about women than gary peters. >> she mocked the issue all together. the commercial made national news. the latest poll has land trailing michigan congressman gary peters by just a few percentage points. election gimmicks are nothing new but commercials like these have certainly lowered the bar. the question is, are they going to work? joining me tonight on rapid response panel president of the

american bridge 21st century and former democratic party communications director and holland cook. great to have you with us tonight. the land of the whacky, these advertising agencies are having a lot of fun these days putting the whackiest commercial they can find. what is going on here? what is the root of this strategy running against washington? there was really a heartland connection there that maybe the folks might be attracted to. what is your take on it? >> until now it has been about cutting through the clutter with a catchy slogan because you only had 30 seconds. fast forward to present day and our youtube culture and we'll see if this still works because the new digital platform can do a few things that expensive local tv stations can not do. number one, youtube is free. it can go viral and your peeps

can pass it around. you have more time to develop your story. and if you want to see a clinic in effective messaging, i bet this will be studied in the future, allison grimes opposing mitch mcconnell in kentucky go to school on the videos on her websitefelt she is utterly on message, very home spun, very endearing, very engaging and turn about as fair play. i found on youtube today the old mitch mcconnell commercial from 1984 which itself was much copied. they sent bloodhounds and said where is huddleston because they claim the senator missed a bunch of votes and invited you to switch to mitch. now he has become the incumbent and allison's campaign is saying switch mitch. the shoe is on the other foot. i predict this campaign will be much studied and will probably work better than the old school

stuff. >> so holland the whackier you are and more clever the more it will get passed around and free media will start. that really is the wave of it. >> attention is currency now. and in addition to putting your commercial on tv if you can afford to it can spin around on the internet. and everybody who forwards your commercial to their friends is in effect recommending it. they are an evangelist for you. so it comes with a bit of a personal endorsement. >> are we seeing a transformation of campaigns because of this? these commercials don't get much into policy. for some reason they seem to be working particularly with tea party candidates. what about it? >> i think holland is right. candidates and advertisers in general have to figure out a way to break through the clutter. we have seen ads like this that

have broken through the clutter before. ms. o'donnell in delaware saying i am not a witch or the demon sheep ad. joni ernst in iowa will have to have more in a general election than clipping the testicles of pigs. she will have to have an agenda to run on. that ad got a lot of attention and probably helped her break away from the pack in a primary. in a general election she is going to have to account for the fact that she is a koch joni and running on their agenda. >> don't people like candidates who say stuff? for her to come up with that castration of pigs certainly innovative, maybe a little gross in some respects, but there is going to be people who will be attracted to that and will want to see it again if she actually

said that which might lead them to investigate what her policies are all about? is that how it works? >> in her case i hope they do. i hope they will look at her clipping the testicles of pigs ad and then look at her policies which is in a state where tom harkin revered she wants to get rid of federal minimum wagefelt she wants to dismantle social security. i hope the result is that people will take a look at her policies. i don't think these attention getting things are a silver bullet for someone winning a race. look, i will give her some credit. i think it separated her from the pack in this primary. >> holland, what about the female vote coming up in 2014? this stunt pulled by candidate land in michigan apparently has not won her much favor with

women voters. and gary peters who has been a real traditional kind of guy and supported the automobile loan and has been there with the president on health care, as well, that hard ball politics still works. >> as a guy i wince at the castrating pigs thing. it is hard for me to evaluate the other commercial as a woman would see it. to me it seemed to be condesc d condescendi condescending. in this 30 second sound byte mode impact takes precedent over awareness. nobody knows it better than the people here in massachusetts. the ultimate example was the infamous willie horton ad that tried to pin the tail . impact is much more at a premium over accuracy when all you have

is 30 seconds. >> brad, before we go, i got to ask you about mississippi. what about senator cochran being attacked for his age? >> i think it is despicable. that entire race has turned out to be one of the most disgusting primaries particularly if you look at the side of the tea party candidate mcdaniel and his supporters there. some supporters of his who have been arrested for breaking into a nursing home and taking video of his wife who has been in dementia for ten years. the fact that thad cochran might lose tonight tells you that all of this talk that the establishment and the gop wants to have and tamed the tea party or the tea party is in decline goes out the window in that race. even if cochran barely holds on the tea party has taken over the republican party. that is why people like joni

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the existing oner it's a -- one if you take away the obamacare. >> i've been blessed to work with a lot of strong women, but the answer is not to pass a trial lawyer bonanza. >> what i long said is that raising the minimum wage destroys jobs. >> republicans unveiled a new proposal they're calling room to grow. it's 121-page policy manifesto suggesting reforms in social and anti-poverty programs. the "los angeles times" broke the plan down in his column. he joins us tonight. michael, good to have you back with us. what am i going to find in there if i read this 121-page manifesto about what they say about workers and women's rights. what they say about race relations in america and their plan. what about it? >> well, you're going to find a lot about what you've been hearing for several years now.

look, i think we need to be a little sympathetic about the authors of this plan because they are serious trying to get the republican party away from the grip of the tea party. but what you end up with are the same things we' been hearing for years and years. talking about cutting taxes, talking about privatizing relief programs. they're talking about dismantling social security, privatizing social security. they demonize the poor. they demonize the disabled, and even disabled children. i think that's the sort of thing that's really disturbing about some of the elements of this program. >> so the social insurance and the anti-poverty programs in room to grow is just different wording. it's the same stuff? how would you parallel it to the ryan budget? >> well, a lot of it is similar to the ryan budget. for example, they talked about a voucher program in which poor people, underprivileged people will get a voucher and they'll be able to use it to purchase

relief for some sort of privatized agency, privatized providers of are relief programs competing with one another. we'll be rigorously seeing that. we know what happens when an industry gets regulated by the federal government. there's going to be more relief for these people. and it's all about cutting the cost of these program, but doing it on the back of the beneficiary. >> so i should ask, where's the beef? but wait a minute, where's the compassion? where's all the compassion in this? we're getting around b about, you know, this is almost like an end run. let's see if they don't figure out what we're really all about. that's how i take it. >> the compassion is all in the rhetoric. but when you really look at the details, there's no compassion there. it's really about talking about how disabled people, they have it easy. it's not hard to get on the disabled program and there's no incentive to get off. this is simply not the truth.

it's hard. this is a rigorous program. it it's not a lot of money. it's designed to get people off disability and move them back into work. the republicans -- this plan doesn't really recognize that. >> for the first time, a majority of members of congress are millionaires, acarding to data by the center of the response of politics. the question begs, what do they know about poverty? >> that's a good question. you can be a millionaire and still have empathy for the people at the far end of the income spectrum. i think this plan really shows a real lack of empathy. they've been trying to dismantle the new deal since the 1930s. they are still at it. this is just a new plan dressed new a new form. >>s at the republican leadership conference, they had to bring in the family patriarch of "duck dynasty" to tell them how to be guided spiritually throughout all of this. a lot of things simply haven't

changed. great to have you with us on "the ed show" tonight. thanks so much for joining us. it's 121 pages of, they they they're redoing their policies? no. no, they're not. "politics nation a" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. good evening, rev. >> good evening, ed. and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, america dpupt b leave soldiers behind. today there are real question the about how sergeant bowe bergdahl was captured and whether he willingly left his unit. nbc news has wlelearned the arms performing a full inquiry. but today, president obama says the united states has a commitment to any captured american soldier no matter how he fell into enemy hands.