bergdahl remains in a hospital. >> it is not often, tomran, when you can see individuvideo where enemy forces meet on the battlefield. it was tense exchange, and the video released by the tall ban purports to show the moment of the exchange, and the moment when the taliban handed over bowe bergdahl to the american special operations forces. the taliban were there first. it took place around 6:30 p.m. eastern afghanistan and not far from the border with pakistan. bergdahl is held in the back of the double-cab pickup truck, and then the americans arrived. two helicopters, and one of the e held ko helicopters lands and it was agreed by both sides that three people would be involved in the exchan exchange. so three come out of the helicopter, and they meet with the taliban and bergdahl. brief shake of hands and they back away, and waving and remain that the situation is calm and

no misunderstandings, and frisk bergdahl to load him into the helicopter, and then they are off, and the entire thing is one minute on the ground, and what is exceptional about this and extraordinary is how much coordination took place. you can see in the video that the taliban are waving a white flag. it does not mean as it would appear, that you know, we come in peace. the americans wanted some sort of signal from the taliban that this was in fact the right group of people before they landed the helicopter, and the americans had suggested that they flash a green light, and the taliban said, well, with we don't have a green light but how about a flag, and the americans agreed that is the appropriate signal. tamron. >> and thank you, richard. new comments that a couple of hours ago from defense secretary chuck hagel who says that we should withhold justice regarding sergeant bergdahl's actions. >> until we get the facts, and until we have as secretary of the army mchue noted a review of

all of the circumstances, it is not in the interests of anyone, and certain ly, i think that a little bit unfair to sergeant bergdahl's family and to him to presume anything. we don't do that in the united states. we rely on facts. >> and joining me now live and let's bring in former army specialist joshua cornelison who served with sergeant bergdahl. and first your response to what secretary hagel says wait until the facts are clear and there is an investigation under way before any conclusions are reached here. are you in agreement with that? >> yes. he is a deserter, but he deserves to go through the proper channels that any other

deserter would go through, and if that includes an investigation, then absolutely, he needs to go through that. >> but you have concluded that he is a deserter without this final investigation and i say that, because obviously, some people say that his mental health was fragile and there could have been other circumstances that we are not aware of as to why he left his postal ledgedly that day under his own will. >> he absolutely 100% deserted his post without a shadow of the doubt. he intentionally left his duty station in our o.p. >> and so you have reached your conclusion on this? >> yes, i was there for when he left. i was at the o.p., the night before when he was there, and i was there the morning when he woke up, and bergdahl was missing. we had his weapon and the body armor and the sensitive equipment and no bergdahl, and the only other option is that he walked away. >> is there an explanation that he could offer here, and again,

some go back to the mental state at the time? >> you know, he was kwi yetd. he kept to himself a lot. but to say that he was mentally disturbed to the point where he had to walk off, i -- it is very hard to speak about that, because there is just certain things that go on that, you know, i don't know what was go g going on within his own mind, i could not answer that. >> and that is what part of the investigation here as well. when you see this transfer of sergeant bergdahl and you see the tensions there in the video and you know how this is played out nationally as well, you have some wondering what is the next step here? i think that the concern that you've had and the family member of sergeant lieutenant darren andrews, and their concern is that bergdahl would be seen as a hero, and some of the discussions that we are having would not take place, and they are taking place. i don't see a hero's welcome,

and we know that hailey, idaho, is planning something for him, but at the point of him being seen as a hero, do you believe that is happening right now? >> in certain circles, yes, and certain people are depending bowe bergdahl in certain circumstances a that he has spent five years in captivity and more than enough. and you know, that he was a brave soldier and served with honor and distinction, you know, and that is absolutely false. he purposely and willfully walked away, and he is not a hero, and he did not serve with any honor and he did not serve with any respect to his platoon to his unit to his army. and he is a deserter, and there are true heros who have died in afghanistan looking for him. >> and at this point, would you like to see a dishonorable discharge for him? >> yes, yes, he needs to be 100% accountbling for what he did. >> and to my last question here, and i can obviously see the

emotion in what you are saying and we know that at least the allegation is six lives, were potentially lost searching for bowe bergdahl, and you know the politics around this, and you have watched and been on a number of the shows here, but are you worried that you could be tied up in the political back and forth that is the climate of washington, d.c. and not what you say that your goal is which is to get what you say is the truth out regarding bowe bergdahl? >> well, everyone has their own opinion and what that is, that is what they believe, a wand what they say. i'm not here to talk about politics, and i'm not here to talk about the actual five taliban members or comment on what the president said, but i am here to just try to inform the american people whoever will listen of what the truth is, and the truth is that bowe bergdahl is not a hero. he deserted and he willfully walked away from the post. that is all i'm here for. >> and army specialist joshua cornelison, thank you for your

servi service. and thank you for joining us here today. >> thank you, thank you. >> and let me bring in retired army colonel jack jacobs and msnbc strategist jimy williams and nbc news pentagon correspondent jim miklaszewski, and jim, let me talk to you first, that you were talking about comments that i was talking to the army specialist about the politics of this intertwined with the military decisions that were made and you heard him say, and we will take him at his word, and he does not care about the politics of it, but his priority is that the story, the truth is known whatever the investigation concludes is the truth, and he cle clearly has made up his mind that bergdahl is a deserter. >> and certainly, the military leadership here sh, and quite frankly civilian leadership at the pentagon, they are not interested in the politics of this either, and we saw the message from the joint chiefs chairman general martin dempsey on facebook in which he said, hey, he is innocent until proven guilty talking about bergdahl,

and then he said, but the army leadership is not going to turn away if in fact there is any evidence of misconduct. and the fact of the matter is that they are not at a point yet to launch an official investigation. they want to get bergdahl some time to decokdecompress and get wits and the psyche lonl cal mind back together, and get reintegrated into society, and then start to throw the tough questions at him. the u.s. army right now, they have an inquiry to figure out if there is enough evidence to launch a criminal investigation, but it has the feel of weeks if not months away. >> and absolutely. this is not going to be something that is tidied up and fini finished here quickly, but mick, we know that there was a pentagon investigation partially done in 2010 when they concluded that he walked away on his own there, and the conclusion of the

inv investigation, really hinges on what he says happened, and the other parts, i am assuming have been explored in the investigation if you have a sold eier who has been missing five years, you don't suddenly investigate it the day that he is retrieved and they have had to do investigations and questions leading up to this, right? >> well, certainly, they have, but you could say it is all inconclusive until you talk to bergdahl, and get his side of the story, and the most important thing that it seems like the senior military lead leadership is not disputing that he walked away from the base, but the question is why did he do it, and very interested in what happened next, and how did he get captured by the taliban? there are some documents that we have recovered that indicate that within a day, he was already in the hands of the taliban. so, but until they get to talk to bergdahl, there is no way that they can wrap up any kind of investigation. >> right. >> and we want to talk about the issues facing congress, and what

many of them object to in the process of this, and quickly, colonel, i do want to talk about the issue of the dishonorable discharge and another sticking point here, and why is that so important to the men and the women who serve oppose him getting an honorable discharge? >> well, because they served honorably and they believe that the obl people who should get a honorable discharge is those who have served honorably. the only way to get a dishonorable discharge is through a court-martial which is way down the road. it has to be a preliminary in s investigation and charges inferred and then articles investigation which is the equivalent of the military's grand jury procedure, and the judgment and the commanders' decision a as to whether or not to the accept it so it is way down the road, but the people in the military who i talked to are incensed of the possibility of this guy getting off and incensed about it. >> and you were with a few cadet

s and i don't want to reveal your entire conversation, but can you reveal the temperature, and who have said they are not happy, but what about those who are watching it play out, and serving the country? >> well, here, with we are talking about the fairly high ranking officers in the military establishment, and not just the army and they are decidedly cool to the actions of the white house and not happy with how it is playing out with the trade, with the guy that we got in trade, and the whole arc of the conversation is quite derogatory, i'm afraid. >> and jimmy, let me bring you into the politics of this, and you go on the twitter and any social media and i use it as a barometer, because it is instant reaction to this, and people feel that they have to pick a side i will be honest when you read the comments, and they are dug in even knowing that the investigation is inconclusive at this point until bergdahl is

interviewed. >> right, yeah, and the bigger problem here is that first and foremost we don't leave anyone behind or at least we shouldn't. listen, i guess that we should ask this question, if george bush or ronald reagan had done exactly the same thing, would the criticism be there as it is today, and i am willing to bet that the answer is no, it wouldn't, because anything that barack obama can do is ever going to satisfy the republicans, and that being said, this, this soldier, clearly, he walked away from the base. we have a military code of justice the, and he should be brought into the process once he is back into the united states, and let that take place. but listen, john mccain before we made the deal, before the president made the deal to get him back was for this guy coming back, and now john mccain is against it. >> and the consideration of a deal, yes. >> and so i guess that he didn't like the deal. and the bottom line is that the five taliban guys are going to be released at some point, and

so, because we will end the war in afghanistan, and once that is the case, we have to let them go, and we cannot keep guantanamo open for the rest of our god-given lives and that is not that barack obama made the deal, but it is all about guantanamo and call it what it s is. >> and i have listened to members of congress who said that we were not made aware and i thought to myself, how many of them would have said don't go through with the deal and a especially those in the military parts of the country? i cannot imagine maybe a handful who would come on any show, "hardball" or whatever and say, i'm not for the deal and i said no to the deal. with that said, let me play what senator dianne finestein said regarding the administration violating the law and not giving notice, and let's play it. >> i strongly believe that we should have been consulted and the law should have been followed and i very much regret that that was not the case. >> and so, jimmy, chuck todd is reporting that the president in

the administration expected pushback from congress, but what they did not anticipate is some of the members of the platoon and the family members coming out to pushing back on the storyline if it was ever a part of the formulation that somehow bergdahl was a hero. >> well, listenk, i don't know if bergdahl is a hero or not, and that is why the military is to decide, and that is for the military code of justice. >> well, not deciding if he is a hero or not, but whether he is a deserter, but a court-martial or not. >> and the white house and the executive branch should have told congress well in advance and they have consulted congress twice on this issue in 2011 and 2012 and which you don't call the speaker of the house whether you like him or not, and say, i am going to make the deal, and you have to just not bash the white house, but there is already ill will. >> what are the -- >> well, i don't know the

details and if the president called the speaker of the house 30 minutes before he made the deal, did he technically follow the law, yes, he did, but at the end of the day, it is not what you do, but how you do it, and the congress is equal branch to the white house, and you have to give them the due. dianne finestein is within the right to say, hey, i'm the chairman of the intelligence committee and you might want to tell us that you are doing this stuff, and if she was not notified, who the heck was? >>miklaszewski, you have a lot going on over there at the white house, and so we will let you go, and thank you all of you for joining us. last night's tea party and republican race in mississippi will go into a runoff. >> and terrifying detail in wisconsin, two 12-year-old girls tried to murder their best friend out of allegiance to a

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the mississippi gop primary for u.s. senate looks like it is headed to the two-way runoff and the democrats are hoping an eventual victory for tea party candidate chris mcdaniel could

put that state in play for them for the first time in more than 30 years. with 99% of the precincts reporting mcdaniel is lead iing thad cochran, the second longest serving republican in the senate by less than one point. mcdaniel has 49% of the vote to 48.9% of cochran. only 2,000 of the more than 300,000 cast separate the two candidates. if it goes to the runoff as appears likely, the already expensive and the personal duel will extend for another three weeks. msnbc's kasie hunt is in jackson, mississippi, and kasie, the democrats have not won a race there since 1982, and obvious question is could a mcdaniel primary win change that if it plays out that way? >> democrats are hoping so and it is looking like a scenario of a mcdaniel win. and republicans say they will go all in for cochran to help him

win the three-week runoff, but at the same time, if they spend the next three weeks beating up on state senator chris mcdaniel only to have to turn around to defend him through the summer and into the fall, it is going to put them in a difficult place, and the other question here is whether or not senator cochran is up for three intense weeks of campaigning and fighting. over the course of the last few months he has largely continued to do the day job as a senator in washington, d.c. while the campaign operatives have been running a campaign on the largely air waves and the issues like the nursing home scandal that popped up at the end, where mcdaniel supporters were breaking into the nursing home where senator cochran's bedridden wife was ill, and so at this point, it is anybody's guess how this might shake out. >> okay. a hot one last night. thank you so much, and we will keep the audience up to date on the numbers as well. >> absolutely. >> and before president obama arrived in belgium this morning,

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developing now some 15 million americans are at risk for severe weather today, and in the meantime, people are cleaning nup nebraska for nasty weather last night including hail the size of golf balls that is shredded the side off of at least that one home. and also tornadoes were forming in parts of that state, and

parts are expected to intensify over kentucky and other parts. and we go to kate blair where they are cleaning up. >> yes, tamron, they are cleaning up, and here is why. we have major hail damage in blair which is north of omaha, and the forecast is really calling for the more rain this afternoon and more thunderstorms in the forecast, and when you have damage like this, and what you see behind me, the windows busted out, you can have the potential for more water intrusion, and problems, so it is not just a problem with the bust busted out busted out houses, but we are talking about the every house on this street. every building, you have got it. every house in this town has the siding completely chipped off of it, and not the mention the firehouse, and all of the windows are out there, and so what they are doing about the cle cleanup today is the problem is that they may have to do it again tomorrow, and what they don't clean up today is going to be soaked that. i were soaked in omaha

yesterday, with record rainfall and the greatest amount of rain they have ever seen in a single june day happened yesterday with 5.3 inches, so it was a record-breaker there, and the flooding issues, and 73-mile-an-hour winds. as that gust came through this area, so we were not just talking about the hail that was the size of baseballs, mind you. can you imagine if you were driving down the road and had kids in the back seat of this, and obvious ly, a very serious situation, and you have to pay attention, because the threat is still here, tamron. >> yes, tennessee and kentucky and two states in the line of fire with this bad weather. >> yes. those are just two of them, and we are talking about that major line, and quite possibly a derecho which is a long-lasting wind event, and made its way already through portions of iowa, missouri and over 250 miles, and that is why it may go ahead to qualify with that with wind gusts over 79 miles per

hour, and that not within the reported tornadoes that we have already seen. >> thank you, kate. greatly appreciate it. right now in washington, d.c., the experts are gathering at what is called the soda summit. they are exploring the massive rise of consumption of sugary drinks, and the doctors say it is linked to health problems and what can be done about it. ellie krieger who is from the food network will join us live. and is the smartphone stealing your personality? we will talk to an expert who says that they can prove that technology is reshaping our minds and not always in a good way. and plus, the secretary of state joran kerry says he was not sleeping or meeting in poland this week, and so what was he doing? it is one of the things that we thought that you should know.

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president obama has arrived in brusselles, belgium for the three-day tour. he is set to have a meeting with

king felipe this afternoon and other leaders of the g-7 nations. before leaving poland, he met with ukraine's new president-elect, and during the joint press conference president obama praised him as a wise selection to lead the country and pledged more military aid to address the threats from russian-backed separatists. >> i am excited about the opportunities. i think that, the ukrainian people made a wise selection in somebody who has the ability to lead them through this difficult period. and the united states is absolute absolutely committed to standing behind the ukrainian people and their aspirations, and not just in the coming days and weeks, but in the coming years. >> and joining me live is nbc news senor political editor mark murray, and we saw the president with president-elect poroshenko, and it seemed that the lede

story was crimea and russian president vladimir putin. >> that is true, tamron. we have come a long time from when the crisis of the russias and crimea crisis is muchly diffused and much of it has to do with the pick of president-elect poroshenko. not only is the united states happy with the leadership he is going to bring, but russia, too, because he can deal with both to west and with russia. and that kind of situation is ideal for both sides. the united states made it clear all along that it does not want ukraine as an ally, but ukraine an ally with the west and also russia, and vladimir putin want ts to have some type of influence with the new government, and so it seems that poroshenko might be able to please both sides

here. >> and you noted that the president's speech was described as a muscular speech in the remarks that we heard from him? >> well, yes, and context matters. he gave the speech in poland and poland has been one of the united states' big nato allies and the worry always from the people in poland as they were seeing the ukrainian crisis play out that you ended up having a situation in which they thought that could russia end up getting closer to poland with the united states, and would they allow something like that to happen? and president obama is very clear with his tough remarks and iron clad that poland is a nato ally, and that the pretext of nato is that an attack on one is an attack on all, and that if russia moved that close, the united states would act. >> all right. thank you very much, and we love to have you on, and obviously, we will continue to follow the president's tour there. and the best suggestion out to d today is the best way to alert the americans about the dangers

of sugary drinks is to tax them. a professor said with a tax of $12 cents per ounce could lead americans to kconsume 1,500 fewr calories a year, and that is one of the national soda summits kicking off today, and the doctors are leading the e researchers and individuals across the country are meeting in washington, d.c. to look at the initiatives to lower the consumption of those sugary drinks, and joining me is ellie krieger from the food network. and you know when people say, tax, you are seeing it with the soda wars and the cigarette debate, as it is called. >> well, it could be a boon to the medical health and not a punishment, but boon to all of us, because was if people are drinking that much soda and the

equivalent translates to about a pound and a half of fat per year per person that they could po pen shally lose. and plus, if the tax money goes into programs that promote health and well, thness, then we all a winning. >> and what do you say, ellie, to someone who overconsuming a sugary drink, they are overconsuming things that contribute to obesity and other shish us that relate to the diet. >> that is fair. no cause to the obesity, and the sugar, and the sugar from soda in particular plays a bigger role than people real ize. first of all, we toe all know that sugar and calories from sugar contributes to obesity, diabetes, but a study recent ly came out in the journal of medical association showing that people who eat a lot of sugar have an increased risk of dying

from heart disease, and this is a bigger impact than we realize. and soda is the number one source of sugar, and that is a huge contributor. so it is more of an impact than any other food that we are consuming. >> and i want to play a comic from michael jacobson who is the founder and director of the public of science interest which is organizing what he is calling the soda summit. let's play some of that. >> we have still not returned the sugar drink consumption to the levels of where it ought to be at, and something like the 1950s when the sugar drinks were an occasional treat, and something that you drank at the picnic or the ball game or the family dinner or on sunday or the birthday party, and that is the goal to get back to what we saw in the 1950s. >> el lee, is that realistic? sugar was in in everything then.

>> and if we reduce the soda drink consumption, and the soft drink consumption, because there are just as much sugar in lemonades and eyiced teas, and fruit drinks. >> and if we could go back to where the juice aisle was half of the isle and now it is all isle. >> and more options in the categories of the flavored waters all natural and no sweeteners in them, and so we can with the education awareness and the awareness of the fact that it damages our health. it is not the complete cause of the problems, but it is a huge f factor, abi think that when people are learning about that, and the alternatives on the market, then we can make the changes. >> and we are seeing with the small children that parents have decided that the juice drink is not the right option, and you have to get back to the water and the other options that you mention. >> and yes, take some fresh m

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we are learning more about the disturbing crime in wisconsin that has terrified so many people. two 12-year-old girls are accused of trying to kill can their 12-year-old best friend this past weekend in an attack that had been planned according to police for months. investigators say that one girl held the victim down while the other stabbed her 19 times, missing an artery by just one millimeter, and they allegedly told police that they did it to prove themselves worthy to a fictional character called sl d slender man, a killer with a plank face that's all over horror web sites. youtube web sites and games online, but the suspects according to what we are learning from reports thought that the character was real. joining me now is ellen gabeler, investigator reporter, and in depth report on what the suspects reportedly told the

poli police. thank you so much for your time here, ellen, and a lot of people are trying to wrap their heads around this story, and i have talked to many people who have never heard of this slender man character, but nevertheless, in the article, the police say that the suspect knew what it meant to kill someone, according to what they told police. >> yes, they were absolute ly aware of what they were doing, and they had planned it for months. both of the girls had discussed it on the bus on the way home from school, and they were intending to kill their friend as a way to prove that this character slender man was real. >> and what do you nknow about their back groinds? what are their parents saying? the community, and anybody who encountered these girls and know them parent ally? >> obviously, the entire community is complete ly shocke. this is unfathomable. the details are horrible. the suspects' families are not

talkin talking, and we don't know why they would do this except what they told the police. >> and the police as you said have been investigating and they say they have planned this, and the police give us any more details about the mental health, and again, how they believed that the fictional character was real? they are 12 years old, and nearly teenagers, and not to stand in judgment, but does some wonder how someone would believe that this character was real when they knew according to your report that what it meant to kill someone? >> right. so they had been interested in the site for a number of months and manning to kill their friend for a number of months and they decided to do it on the birthday of one of the suspects. and so they had very detailed plan plans about how they were going to carry this h out, and first they said that they were going to stab their friend while she was sleeping at 2:00 a.m., and that did not work out.

the next plan was to take their friend to a park bathroom and they were going the kill her there,-- they were going to kill her there because they knew that there was a drain that the blood could go down, and so it was all -- it was all focused though on this slenderman character who they wanted to prove was real. the website creepy pasta where the girls discovered him say it is isolated incident and does not represent the creepy pasta community as a whole, and they go on the comment on it, and also an issue regarding the charges and if the girls will eventually be taken to children's court and what will you tell me about that? >> well sh, an attorney for one the suspects said that he is going to be seeking a mental health evaluation for her, and that is going to be seeming pretty obvious in a situation like this, and you mentioned questioning their mental health.

they did decide to charge the suspects in adult court, and the attorneys will try to move it back to juvenile court, but the prosecutor said that, you know, because of the seriousness of these crimes, and they were so planned out, so well thought out, that is why they decided to charge them in adult court. so we will have to see what happens. right now, they are being held in half a million dollars bail each. >> and thank you, ellen, you have done the in depth reporting on this, and people should check out the information that you have been able to uncover from sources there. thank you so much, ellen. >> thank you. we have new detail ss about the alleged attack against v. stiviano in new york, and that is going to top the stories around "newsnation." we want to warn you first gnat the image nas you arare -- imag that you are about to see are disturbing. the daily mail has these exclusive pictures of the

injuries that were taken after sun kaye's alleged attack outside of the hotel. attorneys say two men approached her and yelled her several times while yelling racial slurs. one man accused in the attack is due in court today and he is facing hate and assault charges, and v. stiviano is the woman who revealed the remarks of the los angeles clippers' owner donald sterling. today, he said he is ready to move on. >> everything is just how it should be. it may have worked out differently, but it is good. it is all good. i'm okay. i'm okay. is the nba okay? i'm not sure about that. is adam silver ookay? i am sure he is okay. >> and hall of famer dan marino says he is withdrawing from the concussion lawsuit against the league. he says that he is going to

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morning. and here's one thing we thought you should know. secretary of state john kerry traveling overseas with president obama was caught in an unusual moment there. during a news conference with the president of poland, video of what some thought was like a nap, is trending on social media. with the secretary himself in his own defense saying, he was not napping. just taking a really long blink. that's just one of the things we thought you should know today. our smartphones slowly taking over our lives?

according to one recent study, the average smartphone user checks their device 150 times a day. another poll found nearly half of all cell phone users have slept with their phones next to their beds so that they don't miss anything important. one writer says smartphones are not just changing how we live, they may actually be shaping our personalities and not necessarily for the better. joining me now is the author of the new book "your mind is what your brain does for a living." steven fogel joins me. thank you for your time. >> thank you for having me. >> 150 times a day? do you believe that number? are we checking that much? >> oh, i'm sure we do more than that. the way i look at it is that if you're doing it on a reactive basis, meaning the alarm, it tells you someone is calling you, you have an incoming text, that's great. if you're looking at it 150 times a day hoping there's something there, then you know you're really addicted to it. >> i know your advice is to

strike a balance there. i thought about this the other day, we don't even wear watches anymore because our clocks are on our phones. and then that makes us tempted to look at the e-mails and texts and do all of those other things. how does this affect our personality? >> well, we all have a voice in our head, which i think is of our thoughts. and with that voice in the head, that voice in the head is 100% committed to survival for us. so now, in old movies, you used to see a radar screen, and the captain of the ship would hear there's incoming plane possible, and he would say all hands on deck we're going to be attacked. so our cell phones now are the main way that all of those possible new incoming bogeys are there for us to hear. that voice in our head are committed to just that radar thing, turn around and around looking for them 24/7. >> does it prevent us from being

able to communicate effectively anymore? technology is supposed to advance, improve our lives. as you pointed out, it's unstoppable. we have a lot of good that's come from it obviously. >> yes. well, it's going to get to the point where it's just like the air and the water. and we need air, we need water. we're all addicted to that. and today this is where incoming information is from. and it's just the wave of the future. and if it's -- there will be a time, if you read the scientists and neuroscientists, we'll have implants in our brains where we'll bypass even having to have a cell phone. >> what is your, i guess number one suggestion for keeping the important interactions that are necessary? >> the main thing is to live in the now. and whenever that voice in our head is there, we're thinking about something in the future, or we're thinking about something in the past. and like that old adage, be around and smell the roses, we live in the moment.

and the pleasure we're going to get and all of the satisfaction we're going to get is never going to come from the cell phone, it's only going to come from being present in the now and enjoying what's right in front of us. >> great advice, steven. greatly appreciated. thank you. that does it for this edition of "news nation" as we remain in the now. but i've got to look ahead, because tomorrow, very excited about this, lavar burton will join us to talk about his wildly successful kick starter campaign to reboot the reading rain bo. one of my favorite people in the world, i've got to say that. "andrea mitchell reports" is next. ot a lot to do. that's why i got my surface. it's great for watching game film and drawing up plays. it's got onenote, so i can stay on top of my to-do list, which has been absolutely absurd since the big game. with skype, it's just really easy to stay in touch with the kids i work with. alright, russell you are good to go! alright, fellas. alright, russ. back to work!

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you first see him in a deserted field holding a white flag. holding a pre-arranged signal of a peaceful exchange. american special forces arrived in a black hawk helicopter. there are brief hand shakes. bergdahl is frisked. the handoff complete. back home, a full-blown controversy about why the white house didn't notify congress a month in advance as the law requires. >> this was an operation, i think as everyone recognizes, that had to be very closely held. only very, very few people knew about this operation. >> i strongly believe that we should have been consulted, that the law should have been followed, and i very much regret that that was