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which which is struck down that state's ban on same sex marmg nationally. same-sex couples have the right to marry in 19 states. that's all for now. you'll be glad to noa legs will be back on monday at 4 p.m. eastern. "the ed show" is up next. good evening, americans and welcome to the ed show. live from detroit, lakes, minnesota. i'm ready to go. let's get to work! the invasion of western europe has begun. >> june 6th, 1944, we made the invasion of hitler's europe. >> 70th anniversary of d-day. >> we were right here 70 years ago. >> we come to remember why america and our allies gave so much for the survival of liberty. >> it is an important date to us and always will be. >> ordinary men, who
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accomplished extraordinary feats. >> this was democracy's beachhead. >> sacred ground. the resting place of 10 now, souls. >> gave and sacrificed more for our nations than we could ever repay. >> they sacrificed so we might be free. >> their sacrifices change the course of history. >> love your freedom. because that's what we fought for. we fought for the freedom. >> good to have you with us tonight folks. today marks the anniversary of a critical turning point in world history. d-day. 70 years ago over 150,000 allied troops torned the beaches of normandy, france. over 8,000 allied troops lost their lives on june 6th, 1944. but their sacrifice paid off.
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thanks to their core ray gous fighting, adolph hitler's third rite was finally defeated. earlier today thousands of people attended a ceremony on sword beach to honor the anniversary and those who served. world leaders and veterans attended what was a spectacular ceremony. earlier in the day, president obama addressed a crowd of some 15,000 at a cemetery near omaha beach where roughly 2500 u.s. soldiered died in the invasion. president obama described the shores of normandy as democracy's beachhead. >> omaha, normandy, this was democracy's beachhead. and our victory in that war decided not just a snchry but shaped the security and well being of all posterity. we worked to turn old adversaries into new allies. we built new prosperity. we stood once more with the
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people of this continent to a long twilight struggle until finally a wall tumbled down and an iron curtain, too. from western europe to east to south america to southeast asia, 70 years of the democratic movement spread. and nations that once knew only the blinders of fear began to taste the blessings of freedom. >> there's no doubt, the events of june 6th, 1944, changed the course of history. msnbc contributor mike barnacle takes a look back on this hockeyic day. >> facing west. towards the beach, where they landed. the channel they crossed. and the land that they left to come and help rid the world of the terror that was hitler's third rite. omaha beach, the american cemetery, normandy. 172 acres, 9,386 headstones. bleached white by sun, wind and
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time. >> normandy from the peninsula, eastward to the mouth. shook with a tremendous roar of battle. >> 150,000 allied soldiers. they came ashore at 6:30 in the morning open 6th june, 1944. the noise, stunning. the carnage, horrific. the bravery, constant. omaha beach was a fortress, machine guns had clear and interlocking fields of fire. from cement pill boxes, men dropped in the water. caught in a buzz saw of bullets as soon as the gates opened. some drowned. others barely made it ashore. men like lawrence brown, never forget. >> i got this. about noon or a little later. i laid there on that shelf there until 8:00 that night and watched it. i saw it all.
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i saw a vote with 300 guys in it blowing up. they couldn't get out. >> brannon, 94 now, is from morristown, tennessee. his days forever shaped by what happened here 70 years ago. >> the first battalion hit right down there. the germans were there and they couldn't go. they killed 800 right against that area. everybody about 200 yards out in the water when i went out that night. they moved them out of the way for us to go back out. and it was just hell, really, you know? i actually saw over, i'd say, over 2,000 people killed that i could see. i lived 1,000 years that day. >> at day's end, more than 1500 american soldiers had been killed. one of them was private ray stephens of bedford, virginia. a town of 3200 folks.
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private stevens and his twin brother, roy. belonged to company a, 29th infantry. there were only two of 30 young men from bedford that hit the beach 70 years ago with 29th. by dusk, 19 would be dead. two sets of brothers would perish in the campaign. one small town, still carrying history's heartache. the monuments of history are all still here. american rangers scaled a 100 foot high sheer cliff to capture a german gun. the hedge rose. thick, dangerous, and ever-present. the villages. still looking much the same as they did when the allies came calling. and the largest of the cemeteries. the one that sits on a bluff above the beach where world war ii and europe began to begin and
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end. omaha beach, where those died in europe serve as a daily remondayer of the horror of war and the price of freedom and democracy. and it is here, no matter the season, no matter how many years passed, the sun still sets on see cred ground where heroes look west towards home, toward america. >> msnbc's mike barnacle with that report tonight. at the time of the invasion, the war was far from being over. hitler was still very capable. he had plenty of divisions and his rocket technology was just advancing at a tore rid pace. churchill was pushing hard for the invasion. it was a tough call by dwight d eisenhower and in the end, the ultimate sacrifice and the right call. if their mission had not been completed, who knows what language we'd be speaking today. for more on the on a historical perspective, a man who has been
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in combat, a decorated combat veteran joins us tonight, retired four-star general and nbc news military analyst, barry mccaffree. general, good to have you with us on this very important day for america to remember. please put into pempt for our viewers just how important this mission was. and it was not a slam-dunk that it was going to be successful. >> well, that's an important point to make. we look back in history and we think things are foregone conclusions but on that day, this massive complex invasion, it wasn't just the unbelievable courage of 19,000 paratroopers jumping into the night and the first initial waves, first entry division, 29th, infantry division and the 4th infantry division as they came ashore with thousands of killed and wounded and the first major operation of a military force, essentially. 5,000 ships, thousands of aircrafts. and these planters were going up
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against the most hardened, brutal army in the history of warfare, and they won. astonishing. >> what were the risks at this point, general? had this mission, this invasion, not gone the way that commander's wanted it to go, what was plan b? >> well, it's interesting. there's pivotal moments in history. the battle of midway in world war two in the pacific. gettysburg in the civil war. what would have hand had the invasion failed? it's hard to imagine they would have been able to take at it again in the less than a year. what would the russians have done if we failed to come ashore. would the germans able to withdraw substantial forces from the west. and taken down the russian offensive. so, if history was at a may squlor turning point and a bunch of 19 and 20-year-old boys,
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essentially this to save. not just europe but to some extent, western civilization. >> and, general, what did we learn from d-day from a military's perspective? and do we -- our military leaders to this day and trainers of young, gentleman atlantic men, look pack to that day as a real training grown for what needs to be done in our military in the future. >> well, i think part of what we learned is be prepared to make sure you'd use diplomatic and economic power backed up from snifrt military strength to not get in those situations. and you know, today, we have 2.3 million men and women in the armed forces. we've got 60,000 some odd killed and wounded fighting in iraq and afghanistan in this go ball war on terror. i think the bottom line is trying to use military power of significant believability so you don't have to fight, world war ii, we started with a quarter of a million mean in the armed 40ss. we ended up with 16 million that
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came from all over this country. their sacrifice was unbelievable. we'll never see anything like it again. please, god. >> well, their sacrifice was unbelievable. >> let's talk about the nazi capability at the title of the invasion. hitler was still very capable. was he not? their missile technology was advancing. it was really an unknown science to what the americans were trying to accomplish at the time and of course, this divisions on the day were caught out of position, not able to move and even rom medical wasn't on the scene and he was in charge of the defenses on the beachhead. did we not catch a couple of breaks in that regard? >> no question. remind ourselves, also, ed, the russian army did 80% of the ground combat. had they not been in the war still with tremendous amounts of u.s. land lease with naval
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convoys out of the uk to keep them if a fight, we would have never been able to pull this off. but as you looked at this, they were bringing in as you said earlier, the v-1 rocket. the v-2 ballistic rocket. the brits were really standing alone it will we got into the islands and started preparing for this battle. they were a powerful, dominating, military force, great book by matched hastings. arm ged don. the last year of the war in europe that talks about, you know, essentially, with the most probably, effective fighting force the world had ever seen. >> pretty amazing stuff. and to this day, do you think, general, that americans appreciate it the same way they did maybe 50 years ago, and how important is it for us to remember d-day and its significance? >> i'm glad to see president obama. glad to see nbc news and other
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news sources focusing on this. it's a good lesson to remind ourselveses that the cliche' goz -- freedom isn't free but i think the bottom line is now we're 307 million people. this gigantic powerful economy but thank god we still have women and men that will still step forward and extend us like these terrific young soldiers, marine, coast guardsmen, navy, army, air core, who came ashore at normandy. >> general barry mccaffree. i appreciate your time on our broadcast here on the ed show this december 6th, 2014. 70 years ago this day, the d-day invasion. certainly one of the most significant days in history. thank you, general. coming up, conservatives have no shame when it comes to attacking the president obama. former reagan adviser bruce bartless discusses the gop hypocrisy over sergeant b
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>> in today's top trender, senate showdown. >> former south dakota governor has one vkt under his belt. >> if they're voting for someone else, they're voting for literally a very liberal agenda in washington. >> ground will face loved candidate candidate, rick why land. >> every south dakota community and feels he has the upper hand to help take back washington. >> rick why land takes on a former south dakota governor for a senate seat. >> there's a major difference between what i want to see happen in washington, d.c. and -- >> let's get out and talk voters and share ideas. two independent candidates will be on the ballot. >> three republicans and one democrat, i think we have a real serious chance at winning. >> joining me, rick whyland from
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the great state of south dakota. rick, good to have you was. you're seeking the seat held by senator tim johnson retiring in november. the media makes a point about how you've been to every town in south dakota and i'm not questioning that but if that's the case you ought to know what's on the minds of south dakota voters. what is it? what's important to them, rick? good to have you with us here tonight. >> thank you, ed. thanks for the opportunity. i've been to all the 311 corporated towns in south dakota and another 100 uncorporated towns and i got to tell you the folks out here, they smell a rat. big money is taken of. it's become legal bribery in washington, d.c. and i don't care if you're in a red state or a blue state they know something's wrong. i got into this race because i wanted to really talk to the people of south dakota. find other what's on their mind and i decided to go out there
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and earn it and that's what i've been doing the last 12 months. i don't think the folks here in south dakota are any different than they are in new york or california. they know something's wrong from the government and it's about the big money and i've got an opponent now, a republican opponent who's been boasting about raising big money out of state. i was in dallas, south dakota, not that long ago and -- i was going to tell you, not long ago shabing hands with voters at frank day's place and there's a hot of places like that up in north dakota. my opponent was down in dallas, texas, shaking down big money and i think i can win this. >> is that what you hear on the road from town to town in south dakota, rest departments are sick and tired of the big money influence and they're concerned about what it's doing to our elections? >> absolutely. when i got into this race i decided that, you know, democrats in the past have always tried to run like republicans. 50% republicans.
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we keep getting beat by the 100% republicans. i'm not running away from what i believe in. i'm running on what i believe in. and i think the people of south dakota are no different has been the people in north dakota. minnesota, iowa, nebraska. they can tell a phony from a short distance from a long distance. and when i start talking about what's wrong with public policy and how big money has gotten its grip on these politicians who are out there begging for it, they connect with that. and i really believe that going into the next five months of this campaign, i'm going to continue going to every town. i started that whole process all over again. going out and talking to the voters and going that their neighborhoods and going that their small town buffets and their senior centers and going door-to-door, that's how we'll win it. earning it very suts buying it. >> wick, do you run on obama care? do you run on the affordable care act? does that play well in that
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state? >> you know, it's so interesting. one of my opponents, my likely -- well the republican opponent sells insurance. that's how he's made his living and i respect him for that. but i came out very early on and i think what's missing in obama care or the affordable care act is it's simply not affordable enough. i think we need to add medicare to obama care. that will fix it. people should have a choice to buy into medicare or buy private insurance if that's what they want. i think that will bring down the cost of insurance. these $50 million ceo's running these health insurance companies that's just not right. when people can't afford to buy health insurance. so i think give them a choice, i want to have that debate. i've been having medicare town hall meetings since i got into this race 12 months ago and i think that's where all democrats should be. give people a chance to let people buy in. >> medicare for all.
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that's actually the next round. that's being, i think, very futurist i can. your opponent, mike, labels you as the liberal. i want you to describe your politics. are you a liberal? do you run from that term? or do you embrace it? >> you know, i'm a populist, ed. always have been. i think that's why states like south dakota pri south dakota from time to time, will send pop laos progressive thinkers to washington who are womening to stand up to big money special interest. look at the history in the midwest. a couple of great guys up there in north dakota. conrad. we've had johnson. humphrey, harkin. all over the midwest. and wellstone. don't forget paul wellstone. that's the kind of race we're running and that's the kind of race that i think will connect with the voters. >> that would be very progressive. >> there seems to be a tremendous amount of conversation, at least there was in this past super tuesday we
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had earlier this week, about economic populism. when you talk about minimum wage in south dakota, what kind of response do you get? when you talk about energy issues, what kind of response do you get? >> well, listen, we've got a minimum wage billion lot initiative on the fall ballot. i helped collect the signatures last fall to make sure it got on the ballot. of 2,000 south dakotians are going to show up to vote to give themselves a raise and a better chance at a better life. i'm a small business owner. i'll be the first to tell you, i think it's a job creator. not a job destroyer. you give a working family another buck and a quarter an hour and you think they're in going to invest that in offshore bank accounts? they're going to be buying things and that demand will created a supply and it's going to juice the economy. >> and finally, rick, as the democratic candidate, where do you stand on the keystone xl pipeline.
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if you adviced the president tonight on what to do, what would you say? >> well, that's nothing in my opinion that's nothing more than a big money con job. the only one that will come out on top of that is transcanada. and their investors including the koch brothers. there's no jobs per se. it's an export pipeline. that oil is going overseas. their arguments about big job creation and energy security is bogus. they're going to make billions of dollars over the course of the lifeline of that pipeline and i just don't buy it. >> so, i take that as a direct no. you do not support the keystone xl pipeline? >> that's exactly right. no jobs. no energy. no way. >> rick, it's refreshing toing ask a direct question and get a direct answer. best of luck. we'll do it again. keep an eye on south dakota.
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hour in wisconsin. and congressman mark pochan joins us via the phone. congressman, good to have you with us tonight. what does this ruling mean? the lawsuit was brought by the american civil liberty's union i understand on behalf of eight same-sex couples. what does this mean for wisconsin, congressman? >> you know, this is -- it's great news for everyone that lives in wisconsin, who's had to live with hate in our state constitution and this is what's happening across the country. state by state, realizing that we have to treat everyone with the same respect and dignity when it comes to marriage equality. and having wisconsin now joining those ranks is really important for everyone in this state and it's important as we continue to march forward across the country in regard to having everyone treated equally, with dignity and respect. >> congressman, governor scott walker has been a strong proponent of the constitutional same-sex marriage ban. what do you think this means for
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his re-election campaign. is this a pop list move by the court? >> you know, the last poll i saw in wisconsin showed 55% supported marriage equality. far outnumbering the people who support equality. even the governor in some previous statements has been hedging his conversation around. i think he'll probably be doing some kind of flash poll to see how this affects his run for presidency as he's also trying to run for governor at the same time. but i think he's going to be watching this very closely. it's not just about the state of wisconsin for him, unfortunately he's running for president he has to decide how this plays in republican presidential primaries as well. back home those of us who have wisconsin as our priority we're ex, static to have this kind of result and we know that this is something that will come to happen across the country. >> you're at the state convention right now. what's the feeling in the crowd? hence this ruling? >> you know, literally, i walked
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in, probably, 20 minutes ago, high fives and hugs. our chair, got one of his first political jobs in running the campaign against the constitutional amendment back in 2006. this has been a state in the party that's long supported full marriage equality and the fact that we're now seeing and reelded while we're here this weekend makes it extra special. >> and again, a federal judge has ruled a ban on same-sex marriage in the state of wisconsin is unconstitutional. congressman mark pocan joining us via the phone. appreciate your time. there's a lot more coming up on "the ed show." stick around. we're right back here on msnbc. i'm josh lipton with your cnbc market wrap. the dow add 88. the s&p up 8. the nasdaq gaining 25. general motors announcing the four new recalls today due to
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conservatives are twisting sergeant's bo bergdahl's trip home as a political attack on president obama. detailing the army's investigation into sergeant's bergdahl's disappearance in june of 2009, said he wandered away
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from assigned areas twice before. according to people briefed on the report, bergdahl left a training range in california and at his remote outpost in afghanistan, although he returned both times. both absences were not explained. kevts are immediately jumping to conclusions calling sergeant bergdahl a deserter and dangerous. >> president obama could have acknowledged all of this stuff, of all of this complexity and said despite the fact this guy could be a criminal. he could be bad, we need him because he has a relt of information and he could be dangerous. he may be a risk and he's not a hero but we need him. that's all he had to say. >> they could say this was a national security threat and that's how we got them back and not give us these lame excuses about his health and other stuff. mixed facts that we've been hearing. >> oh, yes, conservatives wrap themselves in the flag and say, support the troops. when it comes to offering real support for sergeant bergdahl,
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they're crying, deserter. republicans don't want to give president obama any credit at all. a few months ago senator john mccain said he would be inclined to support a prisoner exchange in which the united states handed over gitmo dethey i entertain yees for bergdahl but now he doesn't. >> would you oppose the idea of some form of negotiations or prisoner exchange? in 2012 you called the idea of even negotiating with the taliban, bizarre and highly questionable. >> this idea is for an exchange of prisoners for our american fighting men, i would be inclined to support such a thing depending on a lot of details. >> they sound supportive. inclined to support such a thing depending on some of the details. >> and the details are outrageous. >> mccain flip-flopped on his position and like other republicans can't accept president obama's showing real support for the troops. bruce bartlett, former reagan
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adviser and former bush '41 policy adviser join me tonight. mr. bartlett i appreciate your time. john mccain, is he wordsmithing his position here? is he looking for an opening to criticize the president? do you know where he stands on the prison swap? and your thoughts on this whole situation, sir? >> it depends. he's probably got his finger up in the air looking around to see which way to see the tea party is blowing. i think about this whole situation this way. suppose i had leaked out that the taliban had offered to return mr. burke dahl in return for 5 gitmo prisoners and obama turned down on the grounds that burke dahl's deserter and he should just remain locked up in a taliban prison. can you imagine what jairn would be saying and the other republicans right now, who are also doing everything they can to erase any evidence on the
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internet of them previously demanding that obama do whatever is necessary to get our prisoner of war home. into so based on that. do you think that president obama clearly did the correct thing here? >> i think he not only did the correct thing, i think he did the thing that's overwhelmingly popular with the american people. we always bring our men home. i mean, i'm old enough to remember the prisoner -- the big discussion about prisoners of war in vietnam. people wore bracelets and we haven't been doing that for bergdahl, as far as i know but still, i think after the vietnam experience, we all agreed that we must do more and do everything humanly possible to get all of our soldiers home who were captured and we didn't ask questions about mr. they were deserving or not. they're prisoners of war. they're american soldiers.
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they deserve to be brought home. >> mr. bartlett, you're speaking sense as republican tonight. these are words we often don't hear from the other side. but it seems that that's what washington's all about right now. if it's not fast and furious it's the irs. if it's not the irs, it's benghazi. and now it's bergdahl. is it all about president obama as you can see right now? i mean, we have a jobs' report out today where this country added another 217,000 jobs. 51 -- two months of private sector job growth. yet we can't get the congress to do anything on infrastructure. as an elderly statesman republican what do you make of what's going on in washington and what changes it? >> it used to be that the elite members of the party. the leadership. made up their evaluated
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situations and then told the members of the grassroots what they thought and the grassroots and would generally agree with that. it's all been turned around now because of the tea party. the republicans in washington have their constantly have their finger on the pulse of the grassroots trying to figure out what they want and how to pander to them. but unfortunately these people in the tea party are morons. they'll really are. they're stupid. they're ignore ramuss. they are extremes, bigots and the sensible members of the republican party in washington must act like those people in order to prevent situations like we have in mississippi, where senator thad cochran, a very well respected senator, may very well lose his primary, to some crack pot moron. tea party person. so it's really a very, very difficult situation for members of the republican party these
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days. >> and isn't it hard for these what you might call normal republicans or republicans with reason, that if they don't think like the tea party they become targets? and -- >> that's right. >> and they put their own -- so how does the conservative movement move forward? >> i don't think it does. i think they just keep moving further and further to the right. and as you know, well know, the fox which is essentially the republican party network, that simply panders to the republican party line, is as an 782 average viewing age and so those people who make up the tea party are basically dying off. >> okay. mr. bartlett i appreciate your time tonight. thank you very much for joinings here on "the ed show." coming up, richard land needs help with analogies. pretenders is next. stick around. we're moving our company to new york state.
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cake boss, richard land, the president of the southern evangelical seminary is backing intolerance. a colorado baker refused to sell a wedding cake to a same-sex couple. the state upheld its anti-discrimination law and minister land is crying foul. >> this baker did not refuse to serve these people. he offered them, you know, his services. he just didn't want to provide his services as part of a gay wedding ceremony. and, you though, to me, this is -- this would be like going to a bakery owned by an african-american. and saying, by the way, you have to bake a cake for a kkk induction ceremony. >> lands have baked argument compares a couple 's celebration of love to a ceremony for violent hate groups.
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well, equality is on the rice in america and land is receiving his just deserts. if richard land thinks he can sugar coat homophobia he can sugar coat homophobia he can keep on pretending!
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the gop unveiled its latest platform. the party made news for stripping language which said homosexuality tears at the fabric of society and contributes to the breakdown of the family. now before you go celebrating, just listen to what they replaced it with. homosexuality must not be presented as abacceptable alternative lifestyle. now, they didn't stop there, folks. the gop from texas not only endorsed so-called gay therapy for people seeking escape of the gay lifestyle, they want the harmful practice protected, state nothing laws or executive orders shall be imposed to restrict access to this type of therapy. so i guess you could see there's a reason california and new jersey passed laws banning the therapy. in fact in a study in 2013, 92% of former patients said they experienced harm.
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16% said it devastated their life. and we must remind everyone across the country that this is 2014 and the gop is rewriting their platform to include and protect discriminatory practices. how else do you read it? while those fighting for equality take a step forward, texas republicans are definitely taking two steps back. joining me tonight from new york, legal analyst lionel. good to have you with us tonight. i'm curious. do you -- do you think that texas is still on the planet at this point? >> i'm not sure about texas, but the gop, i think, they're spot on. what they're saying is that sexual preference is a matter of choice. therefore, we're born bisexual. so i think what we should do is this. let's take it a step further. next friday, let's have switcheroo day, if you're gay, be straight. if you're gstraight, be gay.
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if you're bisexual, you're on your own. we'll do this for a week. then we'll switch back. if it's a matter of choice, then just change. >> why are they doing this? do they actually -- it's almost like they want to be different from the rest of the country. >> the idea that something that is in your heart, something that is in your heart and who you are can be subject to change via therapy implies, number one, that having gay thoughts is somehow a pathology, and, i guess, they rule out that you could switch back, and i say this somewhat tongue in cheek, from straight or whatever, to gay. this is the problem. with all of the problems in the world today, ed shultz, this is not one of them. >> it sure is not. the platform also supports, as i read, the enforcement of the
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state and federal defense of marriage act. now, last year, of course, the supreme court ruled doma unconstitutional. how can they justify that hypocrisy? >> as you know, ed, whenever you don't know what to say, you do one of two things. if you like what's going on, you say i don't want to be an activist judge, i don't want to have an activist court. then, of course, if you like what's going on or don't, you are a strict constructionist or an originalist. you know what what's interesting about this is they say fit's not in the constitution, this is scalia now, if it's not in the constitution, it doesn't make any sense. do you see anything in the constitution about the air force? i don't either. is the doma in the constitution in if you use that way of thinking nothing will be enforced. frankly with all ott problems the fractionalized gop is looking at right now, gay conversion therapy and this ad hoc, imagine toir lsd version
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of the constitution, they're not helping. >> so now, we need to remember texas was talking about seceding from the union some time ago. it's pollys like this that they actually write into their platform that make me believe they're still thinking about that. >> none of this is going to happen unless there's a whole bunch of people who think this is a good idea. it's not so much rick perry. it's a number of people who don't laugh him off the stage. and as i said, with all of the problems that this world and this country face, believe me, the bottom of the list, i think, are doma and sexual therapy or whatever that is referred to as. >> now, what happens if we do this choice day you're talking about and people like it? then what happens in texas? >> that's exactly right. one of the things which is so amazing to me is the idea that you're in your heart, what you feel, your inclination is not
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something to join the republican party or a choice of red wine versus white. you think about this, and i know you're capable of this, because afterall, look at who you are, if sexuality is a matter of choice, we're born bisexual. that means we have yet to decide. i don't think they want to have that alternative way of think, as far as last time i checked. >> lionel, it is always great to have you here on "the ed show." >> same thing, ed, i love you to death. listen, we consider this going away fishing business, okay? with all due respect, you could buy every carp on the planet and you're actually going to go fishing? i would rather drink bleach or lick a belt sander than fish. think about that. no offense. but think about it. fishing? what next? >> lionel, you're going to have to go with me sometime, because i think you'll enjoy it. >> no thank you. >> just give it a chance. >> good to have you.
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>> to sit in a boat with a line. no way. progress, ed. 2014. >> good to have you with us, lionel. thank you. that is "the ed show." "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. >> thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, the gop's rush to judgment. republicans don't care about the facts of sergeant bergdahl's capture and release. they only care about their pet talking points. but the reality is a lot more complicated. today, t"the new york times" reported that two times, twice prior to bergdahl's capture by the taliban, he had wandered away from assigned areas, including once from a training range in california. these past