switch default issue. in game three of the nba finals tonight in miami. the series tied at a game a piece as they look to maintain a win in san antonio on how they . that will do it for "way too early". "morning joe" starts right now. i have to make the decision that is right for me and the country. >> is the party frozen in place waiting for you? >> no. people can do whatever they choose to do on whatever time table they decide. >> barbara bush has said enough with the clintons and the bushes. it's just getting silly, she said. do you feel some of that? >> i don't because this is a democracy. people get to choose their leaders. in is the white house yours to lose? >> i don't think so because if i were to decide to pursue it, i

would be working as hard as any underdog or any newcomer because i don't want to take anything for granted if i decide to do it. >> all right. good morning, everyone. it is tuesday, june 10. welcome to "morning joe". with us onset, markhalpren, eugene robinson and jeremy peters along with joe and me and thomas. thom thomas, welcome back. >> thank you. i brought you a program. >> oh, he brought me a present. do i have to have it? what is it? >> it's the program from miss usa. >> thomas, could i -- did you bring a program for me and maybe shall posters? >> since you're not here, you'll have to -- >> it's a lot of girls. >> extraordinarily tasteful.

>> take had to be. >> we'll get her on the set soon. >> and what i thought was face naturing about miss nevada, she really -- i think at the end ever the day, she really did want world peace. as we look at the pictures of these young ladies, america's best and bright he is, i think -- wouldn't you say that of her, that she really does at the end of the day -- she's doing all of this to promote world peace. >> well, she's actually -- she has an interesting background that has to deal with self-defense. so she's good if you are going to come at her because she's a fourth degree black belt. >> that's what i mean. it's a ronald reagan peace through strength approach. that's something that i think everybody can at least try these days. i need that book when i get in. >> no, you're good. you did a great job.

you know what i think about pageants. but we're glad on have you back. >> the president wants all of the young ladies watch "morning joe" because she wants them to be up to speed. so she encouragines all of themo watch the show. i met her brother, and she had some stories, but that will be for another time. >> get the program for me, tom. go ahead, mika. >> we'll go back to hillary clinton and the interview on abc last night. but first we have breaking news to report from afghanistan. five coalition troops have been killed and investigators are looking into the possibility it's a case of friendly fire. last night a group of taliban fired on a joint patrol in the southeast part of the country as the we western forces were returning to their outpost. they were attacked again and the coalition helicopter came in for

air support and may have mistakenly targeted the outpost. this is so far according to local police there. meanwhile overnight in pakistan, taliban gunmen on motorcycles opened fire at the capital city's airport. they targeted the facility where security guards train. the attacks come less than 48 hour after a deadly siege on the airport left 34 people dead. taliban disfwguised as security kept the airport closed for nearly five hours before detonating their explosives or being shot by the military. some reports show that they were trying to take a plane. >> early reports said they just wanted to burn or blow up all the planes. i think they're making a demonstration that they can mess stuff up. >> we'll be following this throughout the morning and keep tabs on it especially given all the other -- yes, joe. >> i was just saying the

taliban, this has been a remarkable fuel weeks for the taliban. they achieved one of their biggest pr victories in the history of the organization when they struck a deal with the president of the united states. now you see on both sides of the border in afghanistan and in pakistan they were really using shows of force. and as the wall street journal said this morning, gene robin n robinson, pakistan has been concerned about india. it ends up the greatest threat may be coming from within from an organization that the isi helped to rprop up. >> exactly. it's incredible the capacity of the pack tkistani elites for se destruction is unmatched. they are obsessed with india and they actually believe that india is about to invade any day and wants, you know, to drive them

all into the sea or whatever. and meanwhile, the pakistani taliban is clearly their biggest enemy. you have to kind of distinguish between the afghan taliban and the afghanistand -- >> right. but at the same time, it is connected, or course, to afghanistan. the isi, intelligence agency pakistan, actually has been propping up the taliban so they can gain leverage in afghanistan. >> right. >> so they can get -- if both places. kazmir and in afghanistan. and so now mika, it looks like they're paying a very heavy price for dealing with the s taliban. >> we'll follow this throughout the morning. back to hillary clinton. her campaign, it's in full swing. book selling campaign.

right everybody? are we all in agreement? >> that's all it's about. >> because you remember they needed money at one point. so we're selling books here. sbl wh s >> when you say join me in making hard choices of america, that's just a way to sell a book. >> i think the hullabaloo over their being dead broke is a little unfair. the former secretary of state is pushing back on suggestions her handling of the benghazi attacks is reason for her not to run. take a listen. >> what i do not appreciate is politicizing this at the expense of four dead americans. that's not what we used to do in this country. 258 americans were kill this had beirut in two separate attacks. people mourned. people were shocked. decisions were made. bring them out, you know, strengthen the embassy. >> is that another reason not to run? >> no, actually, it's more of a reason to run because i do not

believe our great country should be playing minor league ball. we ought to be in the majors. and i view this as really apart from even a diversion from the hard work that the congress should be doing about the problems facing our country and the world. >> all right. just a portion of the benghazi stuff. how do you think she's handling it? >> well, i think she's handling it well. i think she's being very aggressive about it. but that doesn't mean that she's not going to face a lot of criticism and critique. and mark halperin, when she says that her critics shouldn't politicize benghazi, why hillary clinton and barack obama's critics would say that's exactly what they did. talking about this video, claiming this video started spontaneous demonstrations. and then of course the reports of a month ago that the white house wouldn't even release a document where they gave susan rice talking points to say, hey, let's stay away from president

obama's foreign policy and let's in effect tried to politicize this by saying it's about something else. >> the clinton family playbook has lots of things in it. one is to say your opponents are just political. the next phase after the book tour will be these are all old stories. but she he nknows if she runs sl have to deal with this. i think she's handling herself okay on the benghazi thing, the next thing about the finances, i don't think that is being overplayed. in terms of political skill and political readiness and having a good political ear, i think if you're a clinton supporter, this is a really, really important warpi warp warning sign because this is an out of touch comment that i don't think she can afford to make. >> i agree with that. >> let's explain it because we're talking in short happened happened right now. across twitter, there was a hash tag hillary is so poor that --

talk about the genesis of the comment. >> clinton is shedding light on the family's financial troubles in the wake of their eight years in the white house and the lengths they went to to earn money. >> we came out of the white house not only dead broke, but th in debt. we had no money when we got there and we struggled to piece together the resources for mortgages for houses, for chelsea's education. you know, it was not easy. bill has worked really hard and it's been amazing to me, he's worked very hard, first of all, we had to pay off all our debts which was, you know, we had to make double the money because of obviously taxes and then pay off the debts and get us houses and take care of family members. >> but do you think americans will understand five times the median income in this country for one speech? >> well, let me put this way. i thought making speeches for money was a much better thing than getting connected with any one group or company as so many

people who leave public life do. >> joe, i'll let you start with this one. >> i'm injurijust curious what think. because obviously what caught everybody's attention is we had trouble paying mortgages on the houses. what do you think? and then she wrote that in a book. so it wasn't even off the cuff comment. >> i got to tell you, it should not have been in the book. or it should have been framed very differently. i would have not gone there in the interview. because it is completely different than anybody else in america when you work in the white house, you know what a lot of people go into positions -- i have family members right now who work in the administration who they go in there pretty much with nothing unless you are -- unless you are a donor or inherited a lot of money or made a lot of money and you become an

ambassador, you go there dead broke. when my family went to washington, it took years to recover. totally different than what americans are facing. and the clintons left the white house obviously in debt and obviously coming from where they came from and going through everything, they had to basically dig deep to get by. but when you leave the white house -- >> hold on. >> i'm not done. when you leave the white house, you know what is coming. the speeches are coming. you know the jobs are coming. so you you figure it out. and it's not hard. >> also, you can go to a bank and you can say listen obviously i'm going to sign this deal, i'll get probably $10 million from my memoirs, i'll get paid $200,000 per speech, can i borrow money to buy a house. she should stay away from it. they have a right to make that

money. but prielease don't talk about tough things are. >> when you're talking about difficulty in make ends meet, house should not be plural. >> exactly. >> it sends the wrong message. second thing, everything she said certainly from her point of view, and really objectively, is true. but as mika said, we all knew what was coming next. she knew what was coming next. he knew what was coming next. so it's not as if they were actually skating on thin ice. they were just, you know, they were skating on thin ice for about two inches and they kind of knew that they wouldn't have to worry about money again in their lives. though it's true, they have had to we aorry about it before. they were in the public sector for decades. >> my god, they live this had public housing since 1978. >> exactly. >> everything she said is true.

>> can cops and everybody else around -- no, listen, they lived a pretty darn good life from 1978 forward. >> of course. >> but let's bring in jeremy. one of my favorites yesterday, the #hillary is so poor, hillary is so poor, she holds a will govern for food sign on the sidewalk blanket outside of goldman sachs headquarters. that said, let's be fair to the clintons. one of the things even when i had my biggest robs with clintons, i always knew and i think most americans have always known they're not in this for the money. they didn't get in it for the hone. they got in it for public service, for public policy, to try to change the world. you can violently disagree with what their views are on a variety of topics. not vie listenly disagree, but angrily disagree. and still you can never come to

the conclusion that bill clinton and hillary clinton got into public service for any other reason than to change this country and change this world. >> sure. are these comments a little tone deaf? perhaps. but it's very hard to connect them politically to her policies. obviously as you were alluding to, the clintons are nope for their economic populous. this is very different from mitt romney asking to -- making a $10,000 bet during a debate, right? because his business interests became a much bigger issue in the campaign because you could link them to policies democrats said hurt working class peel. i don't think you'll hear those same types of arguments used against the clintons. but you look at this interview, joe, and i'm sure that you saw what i saw. which is flashes of that old hillary clinton that really relishes a fight with congressional republicans. because there was that moment when diane sawyer asked her is this a reason for you not to run and she jumped out of her seat,

she lunged forward toward the camera, almost wanting that fight saying, yes, i will have this will debate with republicans. and that's a pretty exciting ross spe prospect considering s of her lead opponents will be members of the congressional we think. wing. >> and speaking of that congressional wing, it's very face naturing. they may have talked about economic populism in the past, but they are more connected to wall street than any republican that they would run against. certainly marco rubio, ted cruz, rand paul thorks whe, nowhere n connected to wall street as hillary clinton would a be. so there is a problem. a tone deaf problem. >> it's not just a little tone deaf. i don't think it gets a pass. everybody stop. everybody stop giving passes hoping you'll get some sort of interview. stop. all of you.

it is not good. okay? seriously. these are -- these people when you are watching them leave the white house, it was being reported over the video of the inauguration how much they would make during speeches. and for her to do a book and have a section on this saying we were did dead broke, it was hard. let me just tell you, that shows just how con strivedtrived the . because that is a huge mistake. and you would think everything else is planned out so perfectly, it does enough to say nothing, but say something -- >> isn't that a way to explain away the money they have been able to make because people want to chastise them for living the american dream. >> no. >> if a republican who was getting money from goldman sachs and with corporate ties was the republican front-runner, they would be eviscerated. to me what this is about, if she decides to run, she becomes president of the united states unless she stops herself. and the level of tone deafness of i think not just these comments, but some of the other things in the book, to me, it's

a huge -- >> if i were a middle class american having trouble paying my mortgage and wondering how my kid is going to habndle the student debt, i would not be excited about this candidate. >> you wouldn't still find him relatable -- >> bill clinton is over. he's not running. >> but they're a couple. >> she has money, too. so it's not all his. i actually thought the rest of the book -- i don't think it was tone deaf. i think it was -- >> here's why -- >> it's a very careful -- i don't think she'll -- i agree that she wins unless she stops herself. i don't think she'll stop herself. >> there's nothing in the book that tells you what she would do

if she was president. if the point of the book is to help advance her presidential campaign, it is cautious mush. if she wants to explain to people why she should be president, she should have done it in the book. >> she doesn't want to be a frontrunning candidate in quotes. >> how about how america meets it challenges. >> we'll hear it from her when she wants to go to the candidate spotlight as opposed to just being hillary clinton. >> she's certainly not the first wealthy american to run for president, too. let's not forget that. it's not like the public doesn't have a history of electing people who are extremely wealthy. >> jeremy, we're not judging wealthy americans, but when mitt romney had an elevator inside his second house, we he went on for hours about it. >> car elevator. >> you're right. and for hillary clinton to talk about being dead broke upon leaving eight years of the white house when it was all but obvious that they would be making hundreds of millions of dollars.

>> but they were $12 million in debt. >> and it was hard. should we move on? >> this dead horse has officially -- >> why am i the only one who knows the truth here. you all are afraid. >> you can put the stick away. you've been hitting the horse for 19 minutes. >> if we're going to talk about hillary clinton will, let's h, honest conversation. >> we just did. >> halperin and i just did. everyone tip toes around them. >> it's written in the book, she didn't blurt it out. >> ask the clintons if i tip toe around them. >> maybe not you. we have to get to one more -- we're going to go to break. okay. i just ruined that. >> yes, you did. >> still ahead, the race is on for immigration reform after a recent surge of up documented child immigrants entering the

u.s.. why one congressman says this is republicans' final call to acts. and with the world cup just days away, the sport's governing body has never been under more scrutiny. how deep does fifa's corruption really go. and what was the motivation of the husband and wife team that went on a shooting rampage in las vegas. we have the details next. but it first, bill karnins witha check on the forecast. >> yesterday we had horrible downpours in new york city. more tropical downpours all over areas of the east. the risk of severe storms today goes from nashville to bowl willing grebowling group an much of the state of mississippi. the threat there once again today. already this morning, we're watching a line of very strong storms right through beaumont, texas, middle of louisiana up thousand crossing in to mississippi. so if you're in jackson, you've got maybe about a half hour and those storms will be knocking on

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welcome back. time to take a look at the morning papers. the las vegas review journal, there is new insight into the husband and wife behind the deadly ambush of two police officers in las vegas. jerad miller and his wife amanda left behind a written manifesto posted on the web. he briefly supported cliffen bundy in april. take a listen. >> i feel sorry for any federal agents that want to come in here and try to push us around or anything like that. i really don't want violence toward them, but if they're going to come bring violence to us, if that's at language they want to speak, we'll learn it. >> cliven bundy says he never met them. doesn't know them. and their attack has nothing to do with his standoff with the federal government. bundy's son says the couple was

kicked off the ranch describing the pair as, quote, very radical. joe. >> and the "san francisco chronicle," a memo says authorities arrested more than 47,000 unaccompanied minors between october 2013 and may of this year. that's what bobby was talking about yesterday. that is a 92% increase from the same time a year ago. many say the surge is the result of increased knowledge of the dream act which protects some children from being deported. authorities say the children will be vaccinated, see a doctor and be processed into facilities around the country. >> salt lake tribune, a roert was barred from entering a utah courtroom for wearing a sleeveless blouse with a high neck line. >> pardon me? >> security told her the attire was, quote, inappropriate. despite it being a hot day. eventually she was -- >> wait.

it was sleeveless? when i was practiced law in pensacola, it's hot down there and i would very often wear a sleeveless outfit with high neck line and they always allowed me in the courtroom. >> okay. >> yeah, i don't get it. >> she was apparently able to locate a winter coat and go back into the courtroom and continue. >> wow. that's fascinating. actually it's creepy. it's weird. all right. the new york daily news, there are new details this morning about the accident that left comedian tracy morgan in critical condition. this is just a terrible, terrible story. court documents say the walmart truck driver charged with causing this crash was awake for more than 24 hours straight. federal law states commercial truck drivers can only drive 11 hours a day over a 14 hour shift. and in 2012, nearly 4,000 people were killed in accidents

involving large trucks. that's 11 people each day. and again, mika, this guy awake for 24 hours straight. >> there is legislation to pull back the restrictions. i don't think we should. i mean, that's proof right there. "usa today," 14 sets of twins are set to graduate from a high school in pennsylvania this month. the graduates include seven sets of mixed twin, five sets of boy, two sets of girls. eight of them -- >> what is in that water. >> i know. eight are in the top 10% of their class and two are in the top 5%. the cdc says twin birth dates are up 7 of% from 1980 and 2009, that means in 2009, one in every 30 babies born in the u.s. was a twin. >> okay. >> also does you see the has ma in. >> it will be a fun graduation. >> joining us now with the plit playbook, john harris.>> it wil.

>> joining us now with the plit playbook, john harris. so we have a new piece that says there are 236 races that really matter this year. and they're all governors races. we want to look at six. first, which races are the republicans really worried about? explain. >> well, the big one and joe will want to talk about this is florida where governor rick scott never really been that popular in approval ratings is going against former republican switched parties in a move shall people are calling on that you tunis tick, but charlie crist. that's the one that republicans are really watching.you tunis tick, but charlie crist. that's the one that republicans are really watching. >> and explain why are republicans concerned about losing statehouse in maine. >> another "morning joe" favorite where governor lepage is regularly on the show because of his pension for kind of outrageous statements telling people at the naacp to kiss my butt or if you don't like public schools, go to private schools. so anyway, he's one of your favorites. and the question is whether

maine voters like that kind of colorful speak your mind mentality or they're sick of him. >> who has the edge in that race? >> i have to say the real question here is whether mr. harris actually even watching "morning joe" because i don't think we've had the governor on the show once. >> never, never, never, never. we don't even know who you're talking about. >> i always set my alarm early even when i'm not on. >> okay. very good. >> i'm checking the logs. >> thousand that we'now that we awkward moment, let's move on. >> it wasn't awkward for me. >> awkward for me. but let's talk about the left and how the democrats are a little bit concerned about certain races that they have. starting with illinois. >> obviously a very democratic state. but signs voters there really frustrat

frustrated with the democratic culture of corruption with the previous governor going to jail. the current governor, pat quinn, there is a little bit of whiff controversy of him that maybe he used an anti-violence fund as a political slush fund, republicans making a thing of that, saying it's time to cut the culture of corruption. >> and what about connecticut? >> i don't know. there is some sense that democrats are going to lose connecticut. i'd be a little -- there has been a history of republicans even though it's a democratic state, republicans do well at the gubernatorial level. i'd be surprised if governor malloy doesn't win re-election there. >> he'd be a good guest on "morning joe". you should think about getting him on. >> we really should. >> i want to get jeremy into the conversation. we just heard how point the gubernatorial races are this year, but there is something

fascinating happening in alaska's u.s. senate race. >> that's right. this is one of the great ironies of 2014 so far. here you have alaska probably there is no state more averse to influence and meddling by outsiders. and it is ground zero for outside money. there is no state where more money has been put down to reserve advertising time for the fall than alaska, no state where more political commercials have been run so far than alaska. and this is all about defeating mark begich who is seen as very vulnerable. and indeed alaska is a place where because there were so many more republicans than democrats, it's very possible that they could pick him off. he's a first termer. he was elected in 2008. so that is why you have all these republican groups putting money behind this candidate dan sullivan who is sarah palin's attorney general. but there is a wild card. you guys may remember somebody

by the name of joe miller from 2010, a tea party fame, of sarah palin fame. and he is threatening to run as a third party candidate if he doesn't win in the republican primary. if he does that, he would already certainly split the ticket and reelect begich. but i talked to him about it and he stdoesn't seem to care. >> and you have a piece in the "new york times" about that. john harris, thank you so much. coming up, rangers were in desperate need of a win last night if they hoped to make a comeback in the stanley cup final. morning joe osports straight ahead. here at fidelity, we give you the most free research reports, customizable charts, powerful screening tools,

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welcome back. game three of the stanley cup final, rangers at home trying to avoid a hole to the kings. jonathan quick stopped 32 pucks as the kings shut out the rangers 3-0. king s now just one win away frm raising the stanley cup. game four coming up on wednesday. so just when you thought that

you had heard the last of donald sterling, the banned owner says he changed his mind and will pursuit a lawsuit against the nba and adam silver and will no longer sign off on the sale of his team. in ater says the action constitute as violation of my rights. i've decided that i must fight to protect my rights. last week you'll remember that staer link announced publicly that he would accept the sale of the clippers to steve ballmer and would not pursue legal action against the nba. >> do all americans have the right to own an nba team? >> 7th amendment. >> i don't have one. so i didn't -- >> it's coming your way soon. all things in time. elsewhere in the nba, derek fisher will be the next head coach of the new york knicks. the two sides finalizing a five year, $125 million deal expected

to be officially announced later this morning. fisher played a major role for the oklahoma city thunder this season as a backup guard. he'll reunite with phil jackson who coached him to five titles in los angeles. so we take you to the racetrack and the front of the backtrack. co-owner of california chrome is apologizing for two days of complaining following the horse's failed attempt to win the triple crown. he said horses competing should have also ran in the first two legs. >> i'm ashamed of myself. very ashamed. i need to apologize to a lot of people. i need to apologize to the world and america, our fans that have written us, given us so much support. i apologize. i sincerely apologize. i wanted so much for this horse to win the triple crown for the

people of america. and i was very emotional. very emotional. >> i feel bad for him. stop. just move on. >> well, that's it. >> well, no rk, listen, thomas >> no. >> as you said before about oatmeal, it's the right thing to do. he did what he had to do. right? that's the funny thing about these subpoenas. and by the way, speaking of subpoenas, gene be robinson, i think it's safe to say i am the only person around this set that went to law school, though i was never a good lawyer. it would be your 7th amendment that guarantees every american a right to own an nba franchise. you have to bring in the 14th

amendment, too, but -- >> equal protection. okay. got it. >> well, i think it's more of the due process side of things. i'm not sure. up next -- >> but it's the right thing to do, thomas, isn't it? >> always. always. up next, dr. jeffrey sax joins us for today's must read opinion pages. [ male announcer ] at northrop grumman,

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deny that sent this tweet. nsa said sorry to bug you, we see everything. next the irs tweeted, oh, no we didn't. seriously, you owe us a lot of money. they got serious towards the end. finally the census bureau tweeted if you live in america, #done. lazy, making us do the work. >>arioushilarious. time for the must read opinion pages. here with us now, director of the earth institute at columbia university, economist dr. jeffrey sax. great it have you on board. >> good morning. >> first i want to read from your piece and then we'll move to the "washington post". you say kudos to president obama and epa administrator on a true breakthrough in climate policy. the newly proposed epa rules on

co2 emissions from power plants represent a breakthrough not only in the u.s. government ambition to halt climate change, but also a breakthrough in methods to did s s ts to do so. they will be attacked. i will say up front much more needs to be done, yet it is a day for celebrating. >> despite everything, we're finally taking some action to do something about this growing danger. and i think the epa rules which tell the states get with it, make plans, get serious, what are you going to do about your pourer pla power plants, is an important step forward. and i think there will be 1,000 legal challenges, but this is going forward and this is part of a global effort now which i think we're going it hear a lot more about because there is a global agreement to reach an agreement a year from december. and china is working on this.

i've been in china recently. was this europe last week. all the governments around the world are now paying attention and theist is finally canning to the table. >> hopefully we're a leader in this. >> we're not quite a leader, but we're there. >> joe. >> jeff, help us out here. i certainly understand if i am a leader in china about being reluctant to join on to anything that would hold -- basically hold me back from strong economic growth. the chinese basically say you've got yours so now you want to stop us from getting ours. how do we get the chinese, how did we get india and emerging nations to stand shoulder to shoulder with the western powers on climate change? >> i think one thing is that unlike our often silly debate here, there is no debate in the rest of the world that this is real and it's getting serious.

countries are seeing droughts. they're seeing massive floods, huge disruptions. they don't have the kind of distractions that we have here. is this real, not real. so you're right, but the second point about china -- >> hold on -- wait. >> in january of -- joe -- >> jeffrey, jeffrey, i'm trying to get to a point. you've been to china. everybody will say joe is interrupting. we only have so much time in this segment and i need to get to the key point. anybody that has been around china has seen that it's the most polluted place, air standards are horrific. >> unbelievable. >> so instead of giving a speech, tell americans how do we get china to clean up their backyard, how do we get them to do that. >> well, thespecially in januar the air was so impossible, you couldn't go outside. and this led to a huge political

challenge for them, as well. this is no longer a technical issue or global negotiation issue. this is a breathing the air in beijing issue. so they're looking right now at what to do about cleaning up the coal. and i'm working with a technical team in china. they have been basically told show us scenarios of what we can do that is nuclear, that is wind, that is solar, that is energy efficiency. that's what's called carbon capture and sequestration. there is a whole raft of potential approaches to this that is electric vehicles, this is a technological issue. that is the interesting thing. the countries that will get on this will be global industrial leaders in what is a needed transition to clean energy system worldwide. and dhi made is now juchina is seriously looking that the i'd say for the first time. >> i think china is looking at

this seriously as matter of it own survival and its own legitimacy. because the growing affluent middle class in china is enraged. and fed up at the bad air. and this is a huge political issue in china. and it's going to be addressed. i'm confident this will be addressed probably in a more sort of draconian and certainly undemocratic way in china because that's the way they do things. but i think they're going to move perhaps more quickly than people expect to cut these kree missions. >> joe, one of the things that happened in january is a lot of foreign business picked up and said i'm not raising my kids in this city. chinese leaders were shocked. serious businesses said we can't be heerks ire, it's not facphys safe. >> china has been like an economic gold rush for the past decade and a lot of people have gone over there, but you're

right, that's what i hear. they decide to forego economic opportunities, and the chinese government has talked about this recently. that it's concerned. you're right, foreign nationals just didn't want to go there anymore because it is so polluted. so who knows. maybe we're turning a corner. jeffrey, you'd agree with me that without china on board, without india on board, we really don't have a great chance of reducing carbon emissions worldwide. >> you need the big actors. but everybody is coming to the table now. that's what is interesting. and that's why the obama move last week is actually kind of a breakthrough. that was really my point. >> always good to talk about something nice coming out of the white house. lastly it's been tough. thank you very much. >> up next, it takes j. lo and jimmy fallon to prove there is such a thing as too much tight pants. really? that's in news you can't use. there's a saying around here,

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before this weekend's belmont stakes, a local you news reporter was at the track to talk about what spectators could and couldn't bring into the park. and, well, lucky for us, she brought her ipad to make sure we really understood what she was talking about. >> banned items include backpacks, another item, coolers. and don't even think about putting alcohol in them. and here is another surprising item for you. purses that are no longer than 12 inches. >> thank you. is that what words look like? >> wow. that's pretty good that he found that clip. welcome back to "morning joe". eugene robinson is still with us. and joining the table, political analyst, steve schmidt.

and frank rooney, very good to have you at the table, as well. joe, we'll start with some of the breaks news overseas that we've been talking about in the past hour. u.s. defense officials are now confirming five nato troops killed overnight in afghanistan are americans. the coalition says the service members died in what appears to be a frieeniendly fire incident. details are still coming in. but if verified, it would be among the worst incidence of u.s.-led forces being killed by other members of the coalition. joe, we'll follow this story. but this is bad. >> well, it's day skeja vu all again. tran tragedies in afghanistan continue. we've been asking the same question every single day. what will america getting out in 2009 mean compared to 2019,

2029. and steve schmidt, americans are sick and tired of this country living in the age of occupation. i know a lot of neocons on the right and some of on the left, people like hillary clinton have been pushing war after war after war and tripling the number of troops in afghanistan. we said starting in 2009, bring the troops home, rebuild america, don't rebuild afghanistan. and yet we're still there. i think the 2016 campaign is going to have such a -- i think there is going to be a hoe mmoms shake up. americans are tired of occupying the world. they're tired of wall street he running domestic affairs. i see a storm coming at home politically because of what is going on in afghanistan and across the world.

>> for sure we're going to have an enormous debate inside the republican party on these national security issues. and i think we're going to have much needed debate in the context of how do we restore what has been a conservative approach to national security, reticence about using our armed forces, how do we deploy, when do we deploy. and to really have a national conversation with it. and we'll have it for sure in 2016. there is a huge divide in the republican party on these issues. >> i don't disagree, but joe, i just think that we talk out of both sides of our mouth. all of us guilty perhaps when we talk about this. we see something like that happening overnight in afghanistan and we say this is impossibly long, nobody even understands why we're there any more. and as you said, would it move the meter if we left earlier rather than later.

but then we talk about syria. and we're incredibly critical of the president for not getting more involved. what do we want? >> but mika, there are two different things here that you have to sort apart. we've been in afghanistan for 13 years how. 12, 13 years now. and we knew in 2008, 2009 that staying an additional three, four years, the president tripling the number of troops, people saying, oh, well, maybe -- generals at the time saying maybe we need to stay until 2021, 2022. we knew that wasn't going to work this afghanistan. i don't want to go into a long debate in syria, but two years a ago, we could have done something that with an international community that made have made a bigger difference there. now unfortunately there is no good issues because what we failed to do several years ago. but frank, i think republicans

and democrats alike are disconnected from their political leaders in d.c.. whether a republican or democrat is elected, the commander in chief always wants to use more troops, wants to occupy nations longer. wants to play it safe. so to paraphrase winston churchill, the flag isn't lowered on their watch. and it's maybe why barack obama doesn't have a foreign policy that we can put our arms around and figure out. i think we're still trying to figure out what we do after the age of occupation. >> i think americans are very conflicted when it comes to the glee of involvement we should have in the world. and you mentioned hillary earlier. you characterized her us a a hawk, but one of the fascinating things to watch as she goes out and talks about her book and as she builds up to what i think will be a 2016 campaign is she's walking a very careful line. she clearly is trying to put some dance between herself and president obama. she's trying to seem stuffer, she's making it clear through back channels or even her book that she had a different position than he did on syria

for example. and yet i think she has to be careful because we are not in an era when americans having seen what has gone on in afghanistan, the disappointments of iraq, they don't want us to get involved in conflicts that will be grinding on and on and that won't yield clear results. these are difficult decisions for make. >> so why is hillary doing that then? we saw time and time againtofor. >> so why is hillary doing that then? we saw time and time againor ma. >> so why is hillary doing that then? we saw time and time againr mak. >> so why is hillary doing that then? we saw time and time againto make. >> so why is hillary doing that then? we saw time and time again you'd have the two sides debating syria, debating afghanistan, tripling the number of troops. and hillary was always on the side of the hawks. this is the woman that didn't get the nomination in 2008 in large part because she supported an iraq war that barack obama opposed. it seems she's in the same place she was in 2008 and in 2001. >> i don't think she's in exactly the same place, but i think the things that apply then still apply to some degree. you have to ask the question if you're a woman campaigning for the oval office, do you feel obliged to show a degree of

quote/unquote toughness. you're smiling. what do you think? >> i'm smiling in a searing kind of way. >> i'm saying something sympathetic. >> that was the smile of death. >> you know i love you. >> i love you, too, just -- >> look, i'm going to get to some of the sound bites. let me put a period to the sentence here. we're following this breaking news. five american troops killed overnight in afghanistan. and we'll make the pivot now to hillary clinton and stay on that, as well, and bring in new information. showing a degree of tough thnet? kron. i don't know. i think you've already shown toughness and we don't need to overcompensate. >> steve, do you think there are different expectations? >> i think the american people

when they evaluate hillary clinton, toughness is not an issue. i think people think she's plenty tough enough. i think the issue when we look at these national security issues is about the judgment in the commander in chief. this is the longest war in the history of the country. what is the mission? we've been going on six years into this administration and a complete and total inability to articulate at any level what the mission is in afghanistan, what the strategy is. and the american people i agree with joe, i think we're just exhausted by it. >> every presidential candidate will have to deal with this dichotomy. americans want u.s. leadership, but they don't want to send any troops anywhere. >> so as it pertains to hillary clinton, we should be able to look from her accomplishments as secretary of state into a sense of how she would shape policy and also the kinds of decisions she makes. and i'm not sure will is a ther

any clear answer there. but she is pushing back about her handling of the benghazi attacks.clear answer there. but she is pushing back about her handling of the benghazi attacks. she says the attacks are not a reason for her not to run. >> what i do not appreciate is politicizing this at the defense of four dead americans. 258 americans were killed in beirut in two separate attacks. people mourned. people were shocked. decisions were made. bring them embassy. >> is that another reason not to run? >> actually it's more of a reason to run because i do not believe our great country should be playing minor league ball. we ought to be in the majors. and i view this as really apart from even a diversion from the hard work that the congress should be doing about the problems facing our country and

the world. >> hillary clinton also shedding light on the family's financial troubles in the wake of their eight years in the white house and the lengths they went to to earn money. >> we came out of the white house not only dead broke, but in debt. we had no money when we got there. and we struggled to, you know, piece together the resources for mortgages for houses, for chelsea's education, you know. it was not easy. bill has worked really hard and it's been amazing to me, he's worked very hard, first of all we that had pay off all our debts. you had to make double the money because of taxes and pay off the debts and take care of family members. >> do you think americans will understand five times the median income in this country to one speech? >> well, let me put this way. i thought making speeches for money was a much better thing than getting connected with any one group or company.

as so many people who leave public life do. >> joe, i just wonder if maybe -- wonder if a better play would have been we've been really blessed since we left the white house. obviously we had to make up for some losses, but my bigger worry is middle class america and how they can get more opportunities. i'm incredibly blessed, no question. move on. >> again, absolutely no problem with the clintons making money. they didn't get into public office for financial gain even though my e-mails have been inundated saying they did. but i disagree. i want to go to frank really quickly. i don't think this is going to make a big difference a week or two from now, but the more you hear it, the worse it sounds. >> exactly. >> when she talks about how hard bill worked. bill worked hard, he had to get on a private jet and fly, give a

one hour speech and make $200,000. >> such an overreach. >> i'd love to make $200,000 in a speech. so i'm not going to be critical of people who can pull that off. but you're not going it hear me talk about how hard my life is if that ever happens to me. it actually sounds worse every time you hear it. >> the rob isn't tproblem isn't of money they're making. in politics, it almost goes with the territory that you're rich. the problem is exaggerating the past or seeming defensive. and as is coming out now, people are going back to that moment, they're looking at the book advance she had as she was leaving the white house, $8 million plus. this wasn't a moment when they were living, you know, in a cold water flat or anything like that. >> that's the point. as i said before and i will say again, just don't make houses plural. you know, that's what jumps out. >> and in the same segment, she's showing them around her lovely house. there was an incredible amount

of cognitive dissonance. >> look, joe, she's running. the big news would be if she's not. so you have to look at this book and look at everything they're doing as a layout for presidential campaign. honestly, i would only be shocked if she didn't run. >> if you look at the clumsiness with which mitt romney handled all these issues away his wealth, was she not tuned in to the 2012 campaign? >> and we looked at mitt romney and we talked about it. >> we tore mitt romney apart for being disconnected. and this is a disconnect, too. but seef smiteve schmidt, you'v presidential campaigns. let's just tell truth here. if you get to a position where you're running for president of the united states, the chances

are very good that you are so disconnectedif you get to a pos you're running for president of the united states, the chances are very good that you are so disconnected by the time you win the nomination of either party that either through years of public service where you've had drivers and people taking care of you, giving you schedules of your day, you have so much cash you don't have to worry about anything, most people that get to that stage are just so disconnected from working class american, they really have no idea how the other 99% live, do they. >> no, of course not. look, at the end of the day, she's been since 1992 when they got their secret service detail in the middle of the presidential campaign that year, they have lived in a rarefied space for a generation. so of course she's disconnected from the realities of every day america. just like george bush was with the supermarket scandal. >> they all are. by the time you you get there,

mika, of course it doesn't matter how it began. the clip tops bega s tons bega most humble of circumstances. ronald reagan began in the most humble of circumstances. but heed ed ahad he had been in hollywood. by the time they win the nomination and they're makinging the final push, they have been living inside of a bubble for decades. >> so we framed this perfectly. hillary clinton has now responded to the criticism and the questions she's get building these comments. let's roll that. we don't even know what she said yet. >> i fully appreciate how hard life is for so many americans today. it's an issue that i've worked on and cared about my entire adult life. bill and i were obviously blessed. we worked hard for everything we got in our lives. and we have continued to work hard. and we've been blessed in the

last 14 years. but i want to use the talents and resources i have to make sure other people get the same chances. so for me, it's just a reality. what we faced when he got out of the white house meant that we had on just keep working really hard. we always have. that's who we are. we're grateful we can do that. but i worry a lot about people i know personally and people in our country who don't have the same opportunities that we've been given. >> can you understand the creation, though, when you say struggling? >> well, yes, i can, but i think everything in lch has to ife hat into context. >> will you be submitting a bill? >> here's the deal. wonder if everybody has had this reaction. if you were on a book tour, if i'm on a book tour and i say something really stupid and the next day they said you said something really stupid, i'd say oh, my god, how dumb am i. if i'm a book tour and i'm

really running for the united states, i give the answer she just gave. it seems like -- my advice to her, a woman that i've had great respect for for years, lighten up. smile. you're on a book tour. you're not running for president of the united states. and if your advisers are whispering in your ears, tell them on shut up. that was way too serious of an approach on a book tour. the campaign is years off. >> i think this is about as unscripted and loose as you're probably going to see her. she's not a candidatkab candida projecting warmth. and going back to a point steve schmidt made earlier about did she watch romney's campaign, did she see some of the mistakes he made with regard to his wealth, i think that is right. and that's where she could get herself into trouble here. but i think the difference is

can you connect this gaffe to any of her policies. and i don't know that you can. this is not like democrats saying that mitt romney supports policies that harm working people or are that he presided -- he led companies that laid people off. it's a little bit more of a leap i think for the average voter to make. tone deaf? sure. but are we going to be talking about this in a few weeks? i don't really think so. >> i'm just going to -- i'm looking at a tweet that came from the "new york times". the reason -- this is another thing that she said just moments ago. the reason i called this book "hard choices" is because that's what any president faces. so let's now talk about a clinton candidacy as if it exists until it doesn't, okay? and if i can get you to please -- this has to be an honest conversation. i've been conflicted since yesterday because i've seen this

come off as critical. i'm just asking what her message is. i'm asking hard questions for someone who has to make hard choices. i don't know what the message is. number two, i think this was a really, really big gaffe with the money talk. and then the next day as joe points out, sounding as if she just lost iowa. go around the table. do you first of all believe she's running for president and what is your reaction to this latest so far? i'll start with you. >> i think she's probably running for president. i don't think it's a -- >> so let's call it a given. for me. >> for purposes of this conversation, i think she hasn't given the hillary clinton message for president yet because she doesn't want to confirm that she's running for president yet. she doesn't want to be in that position for two full years. >> i don't think you can have it both ways. >> well, i think she's going to try to keep from making that

final step and laying out a k g campaign manifesto which makes it obvious. she doesn't want to start it. >> i think the campaign has effectively started. what is interesting about it, though, we live in this tumultuous period of american history really since september 11th. it is a machine uachine monumen in the country's history. and an inability to articulate a grand vision for the country, where she wants to lead the country, what she wants to do. there is no message other than her ambition. >> and i heard a message about the middle class and concern for working class americans in her apology for making a gaffe about being dead broke. >> you have to do much more than just say middle class. we hear middle class, middle class. you have to talk about what your

plan for the middle class is. but i think the interview last night is fascinating because we're seeing in this condensed form all of the challenges of her campaign. she's trying to put? daylight between herself and president obama, but if she puts too much, she looks disloyal. we have a candidate who hazardous a abysmally low approval rates for a while. we're seeing her deal with the problems of seeming disconnected because the wealth, the amount of time she and president obama have been political royalty. all of the vulnerabilities of her campaign which we've talked about as a campaign that cannot be beaten are being laid there over just the last 24 hours of the book tour. >> they have an incredible political machine. the question is can that machine work for america. and that is the question we'll be asking. >> the machine was great in 2008 and it didn't come to victory. >> frank, jeremy, thank you both. frank, you have a new column

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u.s. border stations are increasingly unable to keep up with the flood of young undocumented children who cross into the country illegally. the government is pushing for more funding and facilities to

deal with the massive influx of kids which could top 90,000 this year. south texas is the busiest sector for control agents leaving the department to fly those arrested to other states for processing. joining us there washington, democratic congressman luis guttierez. good to have you on the show. first of all, one of the biggest problems these children are facing, so many of them, and i heard at one point they were even put inned a did you tell faciliif a adult facility. what is being done to try to deal with the present problem and what do you think congress needs to do? >> congress needs to not use this as an excuse not to do comprehensive immigration reform. what is driving children it to the border is violence, cartels and drugs. that is what is driving the children to our borders.

i want to take a moment if we can put this in context so that people understand that when the you nighted nations reported just last month the murder capital of the world is hondu s honduras, followed by el salvador and followed by guatemala. those are the three countries in fr which 80% of the children, it used to be that they were 16, 17, 18-year-old children. now you have 10 and 11. used to be they were mostly male. half of them are girls. little girls that are coming to our border. and so i think we need to have a regional approach. we need to get together with the countries because many times we look at this and this is not a new problem. this is a problem take has been festering for some time. we think of it happening in africa and syria, but it's happening on our borders. >> congressman, always good to have you on. so we were reading a paper earlier today, i hadn't connected the dots.

yesterday we talked about 50,000 children coming across the borders. and real crisis that we're facing right now. but a news paper that we read this morning said it may be because of the dream act. so it's almost like you you can almost see the criticism coming, people saying see, if you push for a dream act, that even a lot of republicans are starting to support, this is what you get. how do you counteract that? you will hear it on the floor of the congress. >> first of all, many of those that are bringing the issue up of the dream act and the fact that the president issued that executive order back in june of 2012 that allows young undocumented children, which we celebrate in america that we're allowing them a place where they're not being deported, many of those are the opponents of immigration reform so they're opportunistically looking at this. number one. joe, you know you were in my views once upon a time sitting in an office dealing with your staff.

the fact is that the only children that qualify for the divert action might have arrived by 2007 and sadly, i have kids reaching the age of 15 but got here when they were 10, 11 and they didn't get here by 2007, that are being denied. so we have thousands of children that are already being denied access to the dream -- to deferred action and it's not what is going on. and this humanitarian, joe, this will get exponentially worse unless we deal with the -- >> so what does congress -- the president has been criticized by a lot of hispanic groups for deporting as many illegal immigrants as he has. what should the president and congress do together right now? what is the first thing they can do right now to stop this -- takes humanitarian crisis of children. >> you know what, joe, we should look at it as a regional

problem, as problem of the americas first and foremost that is going to exponentially get worse. and what we should say is it's our problem and our borders. we put money in resettlement chasms in africa and throughout the world because we see the humanitarian crisis. we should look at this -- these of children. we should depoliticize it from the immigration debate. but on the other happeneether he are coming to be reunited with their parents. we can take care of that by doing immigration reform. vast majority will have to -- look, will this is very complex. the insatiable appetite america has for drugs is causing much of the civil unrest, not up rest, i mean, there is no civil society. here's what the state department will tell me and you. don't go to el salvador, don't go to honduras, it's dangerous.

don't expect the police to protect you. if you can't have an american citizen go there and be expected, what do you think of the nationals of those countries? it's a crisis. we need to have a global -- i look forward to coming back. i'm going to be with secretary johnson, i'm flying out on thursday, be with him on friday in chicago at a detention center and i'll have a robust conversation with him. joe, the truth is, i'm looking at it, too. and trying to figure it out as we all are. >> i'll look forward to hearing how this goes. a recent poll of registered latino voters give president obama better than average marks on his handling of immigration reform. if the house is unable to push through reform this year, 74% of latinos say they will have a less favorable opinion of house republicans. if they can pass it, the numbers look much better. for republican ares, more than half of latino voters said they would take a more favorable view of congressional leaders in the

party.of latino voters said thed take a more favorable view of congressional leaders in the party. and real quickly, what is the concept of hillary clinton? would you welcome that candidacy? >> i support hillary clinton for president. i think she'd make a fabulous president. in the meantime, i have to say there are good republican members of the caucus in the house of representatives that want to deal with this problem. democrats have to remember we're in the minority. republicans have to remember they lost the referendum on immigration. we have to find common ground. and there are men and women who want to do that. >> i hope we do. congressman guttierez, thank you so much. great to have you on the show. up next, why just six months in will to his first term as governor, terry mcauliffe's entire agenda could be in jen jeopardy. to map their manufacturings at process with sticky notes and string, yeah, they were a little bit skeptical.

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virginia governor terry mcauliffe has been in office for six months and his entire agenda could already be in jeopardy. it was all because of a democratic state senator phillip puckett announced his resignation yesterday. he stepped down to pave the way for republicans to appoint his daughter to a state judgeship. he also allegedly had a job lined up with a republican

controlled tobacco commission, a position puckett now says he will not take. but his resignation suddenly breaks a 20-20 deadlock. and it couldn't come as a worst time for governor mcauliffe who is trying to goexpand medicaid. in february, mcauliffe launched what he called 60 parties in 60 days. the "washington post" described how the governor dipped into his own pocket to upgrade the bud light and cheap liquor at the governor's mission with top shelf booze. the governor also made daily phone calls and even arranged turkey hunts all in an effort to woo votes from the republicans. mark halperin, what happened here? because he was also really excited about how many jobs he was bringing to the state and how many people who was getting signed up for the affordable care act. >> the medicaid expansion was a

huge goal and lots of states have fought about this. it's been a blue state at the national level, but still a lot of conservative parts of the state. terry you now does not have control of the senate or the assembly. and it's not just the medicaid or budget issue. he'll have to rethink how he approaches getting thinking done in virginia now. he might have to do what president obama has done and turn to executive orders and executive action because some people are saying and i don't think it's -- it will be hard to turn away and get a deal with republicans when he's staked most of everything on a center left agenda. >> terry mcauliffe clearly has public opinion in virginia on his side here. he does not have opinion among republicans in the state legislature on his side. but the republican party in general in virginia would go along with medicare expansion. so it's a crazy situation in which he would seem to have the forces lined up, but he can't do

it without the republicans in the senate. >> all right. we'll check in with terry. joe, jump in. >> we keep hearing about medicaid expansion. i'm a guy who was against the affordable care act. and i think it causes the democrats problems. but mark halperin, i really do believe that a sleeper issue in 2014 for republican governors especially, you can talk about florida, you can talk about other states, medicaid expansion. the belief of a lot of voters, swing voters, independent voters out there, even if it they opposed the affordable care act is, well, if other states are getting this money, why aren't we getting it money.the afforda well, if other states are getting this money, why aren't we getting it money. why aren't our medical providers getting this money. i know it's thought the most ideological thing to say, not the most conservative thing to say, i think medicaid expansion in governors races and state races could be a big issue in

2014. >> and like gene said, i think you're right. but it takes a skillful democratic candidate to make that case in a national environment where obamacare is still not popular and where you're asking people to trust federal government can deliver health care in a positive way at a time with the v.a. scandal, with obamacare, i agree that argument is potentially there, but it really takes a skilled and gutsy and consistent democratic candidate to do it. i'm not sure i see too many of them in the contested races where this could be an issue. >> steve schmidt, thank you very much. up next, tracy morgan's accident raising a lot of questions about the dangers of driving while extremely fatigued. what can be done to make sure we're all safe on the road? "morning joe" will be right back.

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welcome back. there are new details about the accident that left tracy morgan in critical condition and killed another came me comedian. the truck driver's lack of sleep is being blamed for the crash. tom costello joins us with more. >> reporter: we're just off i 270 here in metro maryland outside of washington, d.c.. state prosecutors up in new jersey now claim that the truck driver who hit that wllimo hadn slept in 24 hours. so that is raising concerns about the hours long haul drivers must keep just as we're hearing the 911 calls from early that morning. to everyone on that stretch of the jersey turnpike early saturday, it was clear the accident was horrific. >> this is a terrible accident, the car flipped. >> reporter: police say the driver of the walmart truck,

kevin roper, hadn't slept in more than 24 hours. tracy morgan remains in critical condition with multiple broken bones. expected to be hospitalized for weeks. and an instragram photo from another injured comic shows the inside of the limo skippequippeh seatbelts, but we don't know if anyone was wearing them. for ron wood, it's familiar. a truck driver slammed in to his you such. >> i was disgusted to learn that the conditions under which truck drivers are encouraged to drive are ridiculous. >> reporter: the typical trucker workweek is nearly double the standard 40 hour week. in 2012, 104,000 people were injured and nearly 4,000 people killed in crashes involving large trucks. that's 11 people killed every day. the department of transportation estimates driver fatigue is a factor in 13% of truck crashes.

>> my concern is that we're pushing these truck drivers too hard, we're making them drive at nooim nig night, too many hours in a day and week. >> reporter: to address safety concerns, new federal regulations set a maximum workweek at 70 hours down from 82. but the trucking industry has complained and just last week congress moved to raise the hours again. the trucking association tells nbc news no hours of service rule can address what a driver does in his or her off duty time. so in new jersey on wednesday, that trucker will be arraigned. again charged with vehicular homicide. but in addition, walmart says if in fact the trucker was found to be responsible, walmart will be responsible, as well. it's doo's cooperating with the investigation. and they believe the trucker was operating within the figuring regulations. we didn't know what the trucker may have been doing in his off

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the world cup is one of my favorite things, but it's organized by these guys. fifa. you even know it as the federal international federation association or that soccer video game you have. but for american viewers that may never have encountered them, fifa is a comically grotesque organization. by brazil's own estimates, they're allowing fifa to forego $250 million in taxes. somewhere wesley snipes is going, so soccer was the answer. if you think fifa can't get anymore cartoonishly evil, this is their headquarter's actual boardroom. that's right! fifa apparently modeled where they meet on the war room from "dr. strangelove." >> here with us now, brett

forest, the author of "the big fix: the hunt for match fixers bringing down soccer." that's really a fantastic figure that he is pointing out there about the tax-free gift that's being given to fifa to have the world cup in brazil. amazing. so are they really this ominous group that people don't know about? >> they are. you know about it if you're a fan of the game, especially in europe and asia and elsewhere, outside of the united states, where the game is number one. fifa is an organization that is beholden to no one, to no government, and certainly not to its constituency, its fans. >> hey, brett, can you explain how it's rigged. joe scarborough here, and the way fifa rigs it is, they tell any foreign governments that if they investigate fifa, their country will not be allowed to play in world cup-type tournaments. can you talk about seth bladder

and his reign and just how openly corrupt most futbol fans across the world think it is. >> yeah, well, i think the central problem here is that these governments are so aspirational and they're willing to do anything to secure the world cup for themselves. and they turn a blind eye to fifa's internal nature. and fifa itself, for a long time, as you point out, has been no stranger to scandal. it's one scandal after another with them. wherever there's an election for the presidency of the organization or wherever there's a vote for which country is going to host the next world cup, continually, we see allegations of bribery, to the point of cash being handed out in envelopes. >> and you know, also, this is becoming an international issue, not only do you have the times of london and other london newspapers going after this aggressively, because it's

becoming very clear that 2022 world cup was bought off, but now you've got "the new york times." didn't you find it extraordinary that "the new york times" this past weekend wrote about the issues you've been reporting on for some times. >> i didn't find it surprising, because it's a good story, and "the new york times" certainly loves a good story, and it's a big story. it's a story with global implications, far beyond sports, involving governments around the world. and it's a huge corruption story, sitting right out there in front of you. if this was happening with the nfl, you know, we would have seen this story domestically here a long time ago. >> and the integrity of the sport, though, it should be vetted properly. fifa should be doing its job to make sure this isn't going on. >> definitely. i think what you're talking about is internal corruption. there's also the problem of external corruption, which i write about in the book, which

is match fixing. and they don't seem to be making either problem a real priority. >> brett, it's fascinating, certainly as the world attention turns its eye to brazil for the world cup. the book is called "the big fix." hillary clinton's unofficial run for president masked in a book tour. and somebody has a hard copy in her hot little hands. >> i just got the first one for the set here. i'll read it tonight. >> we'll have a live reading, coming up after this break, maybe. >> and you've got to do a shoe box d box diorama. >> is hillary clinton trying a little too hard to relate to america's middle class. and a court reporter banned from a courtroom for wearing a sleeveless blouse. we'll show you what she was wearing and whether it was really inappropriate. all that when "morning joe" returns and mika reads. we asked people a question,

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i have to make the decision that's right for me and the country. >> but is the party frozen in place? >> no. people can doing whatever they choose to do on whatever timetable they decide. >> barbara bush has said, enough with the clintons and the bushes! the clintons and the bushes. it's just getting silly, she said. do you feel some of that? >> i don't, because this is a democracy. people get to choose their

leaders. >> is the white house yours to lose? >> well, i don't think so, because if i were to decide to pursue it, i would be working as hard as any underdog or any newcomer, because i don't want to take anything for granted if i decide to do it. >> it's 8:00 a.m. on the east coast, 5:00 a.m. on the west coast, as you take a live look at new york city. welcome back to "morning joe." with us on set, we have mark halperin, eugene robinson, and in washington, jeremy peters. as part of her interview tour, the former secretary of state is pushing back on suggestions for handling of the benghazi attacks as reason for her not to run. take a listen. >> what i do not appreciate is politicizing this at the expense of four dead americans. that's not what we used to do in this country. when 258 americans were killed in beirut in two separate attacks, people mourned. people were shocked.

decisions were made, bring them out, you know, strengthen the embassies. >> is that another reason not to run? >> no, tail -- >> just too much -- >> actually, it's more of a reason to run, because i do not believe our great country should be playing minor league ball. we ought to be in the majors. and i view this as really apart from, even a diversion from, the hard work that the congress should be doing about the problems facing our country and the world. >> all right. -- >> you know, mark -- >> -- just a portion of the benghazi stuff, how do you think she's handling it? >> i think she's handling it well, i think she's being very aggressive about it. but that doesn't mean she's not going to face a lot of criticism and critique. and mark halperin, when she says her critics shouldn't politicize benghazi, why, hillary clinton and barack obama's critics say that's exactly what they did, you know, talking about this video, claiming this video

started spontaneous demonstrations. and then, of course, the reports of a month ago, that the white house wouldn't even release a document where they gave susan rice talking points to say, hey, let's stay away from president obama's foreign policy and let's, in effect, try to politicize this by, saying it's about something else. >> the clinton family playbook has lots of things in it. one is to say your opponents are just political. the next phase after the book tour is to say, these are all old stories. but she knows if she runs, she'll have to deal with this. and i think she's handling herself okay on the benghazi thing. the next thing we're going to talk about, about the finances, mika, i agree with you. i don't think that's being overplayed. in terms of just political skill and political readiness and having a good political ear, i think if you're a clinton supporter, this is a really, really important warning sign. because this is an out of touch comment of the kind i don't think she can afford to make. >> i agree with that.

>> mika, let's explain it, because we're talking in shorthand right now. all across twitter yesterday, there was a hashtag, "hillary is so poor that." talk about the genesis of the comment. >> and i have some insight on this as well, in terms of how this works. clinton is also shedding light on the family's financial troubles in the wake of their eight years in the white house, and the lengths they went to to earn money. >> we came out of the white house not only dead broke, but in debt. we had no money when we got there and we struggled to, you know, piece together the resources for mortgages for houses, for chelsea's education, you know, it was not easy. bill has worked really hard, and it's been amazing to me. he's worked very hard. first of all, we had to pay off all our debts, which was -- you know, you had to make double the money because of, obviously, taxes, and pay off the debts, and get us houses and take care of family members. >> but do you think americans

with understand five times the median income in this country for one speech? >> well, let me put it this way. i thought making speeches for money was a much better thing than getting connected with any one group or company, as so many people who leave public life do. >> joe, i'll let our start with this one. >> i'm just curious what you think about it, mika? >> well -- >> because, obviously, what caught everybody's attention is, we had trouble paying mortgages on the "houses." what do you think? and she wrote that in a book. she wrote that in a book. so it wasn't even off the cuff comment. >> i got to tell you, it should not have been in the book, or it should have been framed very differently. i would have not gone there in the interview, because it is completely different than anybody else in america. when you work in the white house, you know what, a lot of people go into positions -- i have family members right now who work in the administration, who they go in there, pretty

much with nothing, unless you are -- unless you are a donor or inherited a lot of money or made a lot of money and become an ambassador, you go there dead broke. my family, when we went to washington, we stopped everything in the station wagon, drove down to washington, and it took years to recover. totally different than what americans are facing. and the clintons left the white house, obviously in debt, and going through everything, they had to basically dig deep and then -- >> but, hold on. hold on, hold on. >> i'm not done. >> but when you leave the white house, you know what's coming. you know the speeches are coming. you know the jobs are coming. so you figure it out. and it's not hard. >> well, and also, gene, you can go to a bank and you can go, listen, hey, obviously, i'll sign this deal, get probably $10 million for my memoirs, get paid $200 million for a speech. can i borrow money to buy a house up in chappaqua.

she just could stay away from it. i'm not knocking her. they've got a right to make that money. i'm all for making money. but please, don't talk about how tough things are. >> yeah, hard? i've got to say, number one, when you're talking about a difficulty in making ends meet, a "house" should not be plural. but when you talk about "houses," it sends the wrong message. >> this was tough. >> everything she said, certainly from her point of view, and really objectively, is true. but as mika said, we all knew what was coming next. she knew what was coming next. he knew what was coming next. and so it's not as if they were actually skating on thin ice. they were just, you know, they were skating on thin ice you know, for about 2 inches and they kind of knew that they wouldn't have to worry about money again in their lives. though, it's true, they had had to worry about it before. they'd been in the public sector

for decades and hadn't made a lot of money. >> gene, my god, they had lived in public housing since 1978. >> exactly! >> everything she said is true -- >> with cops and everybody else -- no, listen. they lived a pretty darned good life from 1978 forward. but, let's bring in right now, jeremy peters on capitol hill. jeremy, one of my favorites yesterday, who had the hashtag, "hillary is so poor." hillary is so poor, she holds a, will govern for food sign outside the headquarters of goldman sachs. that be said, let's be fair to the clintons. one of the things, even when i had my biggest problem with the clintons, i always knew and i think most americans always knew, they're not in this for the money. they department get in for public service, for public

policy, to try to change the world. you can violently disagree with what their views are on a variety of topic. not violently disagree, but angrily disagree. and still, you can never come to the conclusion that bill clinton and hillary clinton got into public service for any other reason than to change this country and change this world. >> sure. are these comments a little tone deaf? perhaps. but it's very hard to connect them politically to her policies. obviously, you know, as you were just alluding to, the clintons are known for their economic populism. this is very different from, say, mitt romney asking to -- making a $10,000 bet during a debate, right? because his business interests became a much bigger issue in the campaign, because you could link them to policies that democrats said hurt working class people. i don't think you're going to hear those same types of arguments used against the clintons. but, you know, you look at this interview, joe, and i'm sure that you saw what i saw, which

is which is flashes of that old hillary clinton that really relishes a fight with congressional republicans. because there was that moment when diane sawyer asked her, is this a reason for you not to run. and she jumped out of her seat. she lunged forward towards the camera, almost wanting that fight. saying, yes, i will have this debate with republicans. and that's a pretty exciting prospect, if you think about it. considering that some of her leading opponents are going to be members of the republican party's congressional wing. >> yeah, now, that said, speaking of that congressional wing, though, obviously, mika, it's pretty fascinating. the clintons may have talked about economic populism in the past, but they are so connected. they are more connected to wall street than any republican they've run against. certainly, marco rubio, ted cruz, rand paul, nowhere near as connected as wall street as hillary clinton would be. so there is a problem. a tone deaf problem.

>> it's not just a little tone deaf. i don't think it gets a pass. everybody stop. everybody stop giving passes, hoping you're going to get some sort of interview. stop, all of you. it is not good, okay? seriously, these are the -- these people, when you are watching them lead the white house, it was being reported over the video of the inauguration how much they would make during speeches. and for her to do a book and to have a section on this, saying we were dead broke and it was hard, let me just tell you, that shows just how contrived the book is. it does! because that's a huge mistake. and you would think everything else was planned out so perfectly, it does enough to say something, but say something. >> isn't that a way to explain away the money they've been able to make. people want to chastising them for living the american dream and going out and capitalizing -- >> no. >> if it was a republican getting money from goldman sachs, they would be eviscerated. to me what this is about, if she

decides to run, she becomes president of the united states unless she stops herself. and the level of tone deafness of, i think, not just these comments but some of the other things in the book, to me, it's a -- >> if i were a middle class american having trouble paying my mortgage and wondering how my kid is going to handle the student debt, i would not be -- >> she's not your candidate. >> i would not be excited about this candidate. >> so the guy in home springs, arkansas, bill clinton, you wouldn't still find him relatable? >> bill clinton, that's over. >> he's not running. >> but it's his money. they're a couple, isn't their money tethered? >> she's written best selling books. she has money, too. >> but as a long-standing couple, their money is marital money. >> i actually thought the rest of the book, i don't think it was tone deaf. i think it was -- >> here's why -- >> it was very careful. you know, i don't think she's

going to -- i agree with you that she's president unless he stops herself. i don't think she's going to stop herself. >> here's why i think it's tone deaf. there's nothing in the book to tell you what she's going to do as president. if the point of the book is to help advance her presidential campaign, it is cautious mush. if she wants to explain to people why she should be president, she should have done it in the book. >> she doesn't want to be a front running candidate all year -- >> forget front running candidate. how about explaining how america meets its challenges? >> i think we'll hear that from her. still ahead, tracy morgan remains in critical condition after this weekend's crash, but we do have new information now about what caused the accident. those details are next. and politico takes a look at the 36 elections that really matter this year. here's a hint. they have nothing to do with the senate. but first, bill karins with a check on the forecast. bill? >> interesting little tease. thanks, mika. today's forecast a little dryer in areas of new england than it was yesterday. not everywhere, though. we still have a few areas

getting some rain. if you look down at the map, we are looking anywhere from cape cod down to rhode island with some showers. also with philadelphia and down here, right through southern maryland and delaware. just a few showers. it's very humid, we could see a shower or storm at any point this afternoon. but it's not going to like wash out your entire day. temperatures will still get up into the 70s and 80s, especially if that sun comes out around d.c. you can easily get up there to the mid-80s. it is pouring through louisiana. this is the worst weather in the country right now. right around i-10, look at those lightning strikes, over the last hour, we've had 6,000 to 7,000 lightning strikes in the region. some storms there. duck inside, they'll pass in about 15 minutes. later today, those storms will march right through mississippi, all the way through northern alabama, even northern tennessee around the nashville area. you have the chance of getting some strong storms. at least it's not tornadoing. damaging winds just like yesterday will be the primary threat. here's your forecast for your tuesday. a rainy day from the ohio valley

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welcome back to "morning joe." time now to take a look at the morning papers. the las veg"las vegas review-j." there's more insight into the husband and wife deadly ambush of two police officers in las vegas. david miller and his wife, amanda, left behind a written manifesto and video posted on the web. jared miller even recently joined the armed anti-military supporting cliven bundy. >> i feel sorry for any federal agents who want to come in here and push us around or anything like that. i really don't want violence towards them, but if they're going to come bring violence to us, if that's the language they want to speak, we'll learn it. >> cliven bundy says he never met them, doesn't know them, and their attack has nothing to do with his standoff with the federal government. bundy's son said the couple was kicked off the ranch, describing the pair as, quote, very

radical. joe? >> and the "san francisco chronicle," a border patrol memo says authorities arrested more than 47,000 unaccompanied minors the between october 2013 and may of this year. that's what bobby gush was talking about yesterday on "morning joe." that is a 92% increase from the same time a year ago. now, many say the surge is a result of increased knowledge of the dream act, which actually protects some children from being deported. authorities say the children are going to be vaccinated, see a doctor, and have being processed into facilities around the country. >> the salt lake tribune. a reporter was barred from entering a courtroom for wearing a sleeveless blouse with a high neckline. >> pardon me? >> security told her, quote, the retire was inappropriate, despite it being a hot day. eventually, she was -- >> wait, wait, wait. was it sleeveless? because i -- when i, you know, i practiced law in pensacola, florida, and it was very hot

down there and i would often wear a sleeveless outfit. >> there's something wrong with sleeveless. >> and they always allow med into the courtroom. >> like, what's -- okay. so they -- >> yeah, i don't get it. >> she was apparently able to locate a winter coat and go back into the courtroom. >> wow. >> that's fascinating. >> weird! >> actually, it's creepy. it's weird. >> all right, the "new york daily news," there are new details this morning about the accident that left comedian tracy morgan in critical condition. this is just a terrible, terrible story. court documents say the walmart truck driver charged with causing this crash was awake for more than 24 hours straight. federal law states that commercial truck drivers can only drive 11 hours a day over a 14-hour shift. and in 2012, nearly 4,000 people were killed in accidents involving large trucks. that's 11 people each day. and again, mika, this guy, awake

for 24 hours straight. >> there's legislation to pull back the restrictions. i don't think we should. i mean, that's proof right there. >> "usa today," 14 sets of twins are set to graduate from a high school in pennsylvania this month. the graduates include seven sets of mixed twins, five sets of boys, and two sets of girls. eight of them -- >> what is in that water? >> i know! >> eight are in the top 10% of their class and 2 are in top 5%. the cdc says twin birthrates were up 76% between 1980 and 2009. that means in 2009, 1 in every 30 babies born in the u.s. was a twin. hmm. >> and awesome mascot, too. >> that's great. kind of fun. must be a fun graduation. thomas? >> congratulations to all the doppelgangers crossing the stage. joining us now, politico's editor in chief, john harris. good morning. >> good morning. >> so we've got this new piece in politico magazine that says

there are 36 races that really matter this year. and they're all governors' races. so we want to look at six and talk about those. first, which races are the republicans really worried about? explain. >> well, the big one, and joe will want to talk about this, is florida, where governor rick scott, informer really been that popular in approval ratings. he's going against a former republican, switched waters in a move that some people are calling opportunistic, but charl charl charl charlie crist, that's the one they're really worried about. >> and why are republicans worried about losing the statehouse in maine? >> another "morning joe" favorite, where governor lepage is regularly on the show because of his penchant for flamboyant or outrageous statements, like telling the naacp to kiss his butt. whether maine voters like that

speak your mind mentality or just sick of him. and they've got the edge in that race. >> mika, i've got to say, the real question here is whether mr. harris actually even wafs "morning joe," because yi don't think we've had the governor on the show once. >> we don't know even know who you're talking about. >> i always set my alarm early, even when i'm not on. >> i'm checking the logs. >> he even watches when he's not on. >> so now we've had that awkward moment, let's move on. >> thank you! >> it wasn't awkward for me. >> awkward for me. but let's talk about the left and how democrats are a little bit concerned about certain races that they have. starting with illinois. >> you know, one that we're looking at is illinois, obviously a very democratic state. but, you know, there's signs voters there are really frustrated the largely democratic culture of corruption with obviously the previous

governor, blagojevich, going to jail. the current governor, pat quinn, there's a little whiff of controversy about him, that he's maybe used an anti-violence fund as a so-called political slush fund. republicans really trying to make great hay of that, and saying it's time for a change, time to sort of cut the democratic culture of corruption there. >> john, what do you say about connecticut? what's happening there? >> i don't know. there's some sense that democrats are going to lose connecticut. i would. a little -- there's been a history of republicans, even though it's a democratic state, republicans do well at the gubernatorial level. i would be a little surprised if governor malloy doesn't win re-election again there. >> he would be a good guest. >> we really should. >> i want to get jeremy into the conversation, because we just heard, obviously, how important the gubernatorial races are this year, but there's something fascinating happening in alaska's u.s. senate race, jeremy. >> that's right. this is one of the great ironies

of 2014 so far. here you have alaska, probably, there is no state more averse to influence and melding by outsiders. and it is ground zero for outside money. there is no state where more money has been put down to reserve advertising time for the fall than alaska. no state where more political commercials have been run so far than alaska. and this is all about defeating mark begich, the incumbent democrat, who's seen as very vulnerable. and indeed, alaska is a place where there are so many more democrats, it's very possible they could pick him off. he was a first-termer, elected in 2008. so that's why you have all these republican groups putting money behind this candidate, dan sullivan, who was sarah palin's attorney general, and has been the department of natural resources commissioner up there, which is a big deal in alaska. but, there's a wild card. you guys may remember somebody by the name of joe miller, from

2010, of tea party fame, of sarah palin fame. and he is threatening to run as a third party candidate if he doesn't win in the republican primary. now, if he does that, he would almost certainly split the ticket and re-elect begich. but i talked to him about it and he doesn't seem to care. well, up next, a look ahead at how the markets will open this morning. and later, a big change was just announced that impacts how your food is prepared. we'll explain that, ahead. "morning joe" will be right back.

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wave been following breaking news all morning, that the deaths of five american personnel in america, perhaps from friendly fire. joining us now from washington, jim miklaszewski. jim? >> mika, this was supposed to be a fairly routine operation. americans working side by side with afghans. but something, obviously, went terribly wrong. the five americans killed were special operations forces, who were working with afghan security forces and one of their soldiers also died. they were on a routine sweep of polling places in southern afghanistan in zabul province prior to this coming weekend's runoff elections when suddenly they came under a vicious attack

by the taliban. repeatedly the taliban attacked thesis forces, so the americans had to call in an air strike. we're told by american officials that a b-1 stealth bomber then unleashed its weapons at the site, unfortunately, killing five americans and the one taliban. the whole thing is under investigation. it's really impossible to tell right now whether there was a mechanical or electronic malfunction, or it was human error. that will all come out in the investigation. but i must tell you that this is a very stark reminder to many americans that despite the fact that war is winding down, and i suspect many here at home think the war is already over, there are still tens of thousands of americans in harm's way, mika. >> what do we know about the contingent of special forces? how large was this group? what was the group consisted of

our special forces along with afghanistan patrols? >> on most of these operations, the americans make up a very small number. and it's unclear. you know, if you've got five special operations forces and we're being told that it was a sweep of polling stations, was one has to wonder, really, five special ops involved in that? so perhaps they were going after a taliban target, it's unclear yet. but in most of these operations now, as has been reported, and we've been reassured from very reliable sources, that the afghan forces have taken the lead. now, we are told for the first time that this actually occurred yesterday, afghanistan time. so it actually could have been a nighttime raid, going after a specific target, which would explain the taliban's fierce response. but all of that still has to come out in the wash and the investigation. we're not totally up to speed on all the facts. they're just not being shared

with us yet. >> gene? >> mik, this is gene robinson. we know there are five dead. do we know anything about injuries, anybody injured and evacuated? >> no word on think other casualties, gene. the five dead, american special operation forces, and that's all we have so far. >> switching topics, secretary hagel is on the hill today to talk about the prisoner exchange -- >> actually, it's going to be tomorrow. >> was it originally today? >> well, hmm -- >> i thought it was today. >> let me look in my notes. >> i thought it was today. >> he actually has notes. >> it's tomorrow. >> it is tomorrow. is he expected to say something different, be defiant or nuanced or more information? >> well, it's hard to tell with secretary hagel, we all recall, of course, his krpconfirmation appearance, which by all accounts here in the building was pretty much a disaster. but folks in the building say he's up to speed on this. he's going to make it clear this was a unanimous decision across the board with the government

and it had to be done with speed and rapidity, because as we've heard the administration say previously, they felt that bowe bergdahl's life was at risk. i can tell you, however, that early proclamations or declarations or statements from the administration, that the taliban had threatened to kill bowe bergdahl, if, in fact, information leaked out in advance, which is why their excuse for not informing congress before the actual event. we are told categorically by senior defense officials that is absolutely not true. the taliban did not threaten to kill bowe bergdahl. they did say, however, that there was concern, as the war dragged on and winded down, actually, and american troops started to withdraw, that they felt that bowe bergdahl just didn't have the cache anymore and they might be driven to kill him. it was speculation, not a threat. >> mik, we're going to bring joe

scarborough in. and joe, i just feel like this week, we have used the word "taliban," in many different ways. and as we cover this breaking news, i wonder how many dots we can actually connect here, or are they all just completely isolated situations? >> we will see. i don't think they're isolated. but mik, i want to ask you. you brought up something, i was going to say, you've brought up something i've been hearing from a lot of people inside the pentagon and outside of the pentagon. a lot of people in the military culture, very offended by the rose garden ceremony. and they have said that what the president's excuses were for getting him out did not hold up. military officials telling me that the taliban was not going to kill him. that he was like their gold en goose. i mean, he was their ace of spades. they were not going to get rid of him. and that the president -- i have somebody here who said, he wasn't near death. it didn't happen quickly, they would have never killed him if it had leaked. and what this really is a cover

for is the president of the united states basically saying, he can't trust dianne feinstein and he can't trust saxby chambliss and he can't trust nancy pelosi and these people with this information. are you hearing that from the military community? that they don't buy this and many are offended by the rose garden ceremony? >> well, you know, and let's gook to december, if we could. because the administration cites this proof of life video, which showed bergdahl in failing health. and according to the administration again, there was fear that he was on the verge of death. but at the time that video -- sources told us that, yeah, he looks like his health is failing, but he doesn't certainly look in danger. and we've been subsequently told that medical teams who studied that tape said, yeah, he's probably not eating as well as he should, but he does not appear to be in grave danger. it does not appear that his life is threatened by his condition. and the fact that his speech was

slurred, there's some speculation that either he was very tired, sleep deprivation, or maybe even drugged. but i can tell you, categorically, again, across the board, people in this building are saying, that tape did not show that his life was in danger. >> a lot of questions still. jim miklaszewski, thank you so much as we cover this breaking news. up next, what stands in facebook's way for a global domination. and how the company's latest hire impacts that quest. "morning joe" will be be right back.

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necessarily connecting with consumers, guys. also, facebook, they hired an executive away from paypal named david marcus. and you say, why do i care about this? because this could be the first foray in not trying to control messenger and keep you on the screen, but do mobile payments. image a world where you can use a real catalog, go through on facebook, open up messenger, and send payments to somebody or buy something over facebook messenger on your cell phone. pretty soon, cash, catalogs, human beings will be completely supercilious in this world. >> but what about the protection issues about that? didn't paypal just go through an issue with amazon? >> at this point, i think it's pretty much everybody has gone through symptom type of an issue, right? >> back to target last year, go through all these different firms, but you are right. ebay had some issues there and urged everybody to change your password. if you haven't done so, please do so now. but this is facebook. i don't want to say world

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so american pork producers have long kept their sows in cramped crates and stalls with so little space, they can't even turn around. but there are signs that the tides are turning in the pork industry. pretty interesting stuff. joining the table, we've got the president and ceo of the humane society of the u.s., wayne my se picell i. gene is us and joe is here too. and the chef and owner of kraft restaurants, tom cleekio. i almost forgot you. >> buried the lead here, man. >> forgive me. >> you buried the lead! >> let's talk about why we're

seeing such a change here. wayne, let me ask you. because we seen to have tried to put the genie back in the bottle. when it comes to the regulations that are going forward with this. so explain how you're making these changes. how the tide is turning? >> well, i think the american public cares about animals. we have animal statutes in every state in the country. and if you logically apply anti-cruelty principles, we've got to think about animals and agriculture. and if you look at what is happening in agriculture, we've had an incredible transformation over the last 50 years. animals had to be outside, they had access to pasture, they could feel sunlight on their backseat and soil on their feet. they've been moved into these huge warehouses and sometimes in the warehouses, in the case of breeding sows in the pig industry, their confined in a crate that's 2 feet wide, about as wide as my shoulders, 7 feet long, and these are 300, 400 animals, and they're in there for about three years of their life, immobilized. and for anyone who cares about

animals, that's a moral problem. >> joe, did you want to ask tom a question. >> well, talk about it, why is it important? >> well, it's important for all the reasons that wayne just mentioned, but what's really happening here is you have 60 major u.s. companies including mcdonald's and conagra, target, who are pressuring these pork producers and they're yielding to pressure from sort of everyday people, who are really -- they care about how their food is raised, they care about farm workers' rights, they care about animal rights. and so you see pressure coming from the consumer. and, you know, if you look at this, there's so many ballot initiatives, that i think wayne can talk about, in various states, that we're also putting pressure on this as well. so you see sort of, you know, consumer demand in action here.

>> the federation for cows, wayne? >> yeah, joe. you know, the veal calfs, the young, male calfs raised for veal are kind of the iconic symbol of extreme confinement. the worst situations for the laying hens, in the egg industry, they're crammed into what are called battery cages. these breeding sows in the pork industry and the veal calfs, but we're seeing great change. and the fact that cargill has moved on this issue, i think, is a sign of the times. >> explain about that. you want give people the peace of mind at home. >> yeah, i think there's an area where business is also aligned with humanity.

and with good practices. we're seeing people just want to get a better product. at the end of the day, these types of conditions breed disease. there's waste and leakage into ground water. there's pollution and greenhouse gases that are produced from these types of scenarios. there's antibiotics that comes up. i think this is an area where we can really achieve cost savings. there's 20% slippage, where 20% of thin of the pigs die just from the conditions. this is an area where business is going to improve from an efficiency standpoint by better practices. >> gene and i were talking, we're disassociated from our food system. >> we are, we're not in touch with our dinner. in some other places, people are. i wanted to ask tom, do diners want to be more in touch with their dinner and more knowledgeable about the conditions under which the animals were raised? >> they do. i think consumers want to know, number one, where the food is

coming from, how it was raised, who is raising it, the conditions it's being raised, and it goes from animals to also fish and also produce. and i think there's a huge movement. if you look at the food movement, it started 30 years ago, it was a social movement, a loose group of an organized group that is focusing on social issues around food. and i think it's really turned into a full-blown political movement. and i think as the food movement's growing up, they're realizing if they want these gains, they actually have to work through the political system. so there's just a huge awareness. and what's happening is when you have organizations like food policy action, humane society working on these, groups like food democracy now and civil eats, and so so many people are just sort of focused on this important thing. three times a day, and sometimes more than that, we put food into our systems, and yet we're not focused on whether it's at or how it's being raised and what impact it's having on the environment and our bodies. so the time has come.

it's great to see. this is great news for the food movement. >> i think it is. and tom, you know, you and i actually tweet back and forth all the time about a guy, paul mccartney, who's been talking about this issue for a very long time. i'm kind of surprised that your favorite wing song ever or mccartney solo song is ""magnet and titanium man." >> i love it! >> but is it better than "maybe i'm amazed." >> i had to give it a shout-out. >> you are contrarian, but i think it's safe. and paul mccartney's been talking about this for some time. and i think if we all saw, you know, what we ate, and how it was raised, i think a lot of us, more of us, would be vegetarians, probably. so this is a very, very positive development. tom, thank you so much for being with us. wayne web appreciate it as well. and leah, thank you so much. we appreciate you being here.

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>> all right. gene, what did you learn? >> i learned some pretty disturbing things about my favorite of the food groups, bacon. it's kind of -- kind of shakes everything i knew about the world. >> right to the core. >> yeah. >> mark halperin? >> mika will be multi-tasking, reading "hard choice" and watching the nba finals tonight. >> no doubt about it. if it's way too early, it's "morning joe," but chuck todd is next with the daily rundown. thanks so much for being with us. and my dear friends, as always, thank you for your patience. gone to carolina in my mind. could senator lindsey graham defy tea party conventional wisdom today? or will the gop establishment have to be funding a big runoff campaign? today's primaries will define some of the most watched races this november. we'll talk to the professor, trying to unseat eric cantor and the democrat hoping to fill a virginia vacancy. plus, on the