what can you tell us? >> shortly after school started at 8:00. we had reports of an active shooter. there's police officers from multiple cities swarming around the high school. there has been a life flight helicopter called to the scene but we don't know at this point if there's any injuries. the parents are gathering outside the police tape wondering about their students. and it's the second largest high school in oregon so it's a rather large school. >> and exactly where in oregon is troutdale? position it for us, mr. mayor. >> it's the eastern suburb of portland, oregon. >> now, at this stage, you don't know of any injuries. what are you hearing from inside the school? >> well, the best we can do right now is social media from the students that are trapped inside the school. some parents are getting tweets.

and social media updates inside the school where the kids are in lockdown inside classrooms but we do not have any information at this time about any injuries, although there was shooting that was heard. tell us what grades are in this high school. >> standard high school grades of 9 through 12. >> and had there been any warnings or anything else anywhere of any kind of violence in the community? >> no, none whatsoever. this is finals week so all of the students are preoccupied with taking final tests. there was no previous reason for concern. >> the other question i have is the surrounding area, we're talking about a school in a suburban area outside portland.

what nearby points, other schools in the area? what other conditions or emergency procedures have you put in place elsewhere in the community until you know how many people could be involved? >> well, i tell you, our police department only has 18 officers but there must be close to, gosh, 100 officers on site from about, i would say 10 or 13 different cities that swarmed over here to help assist. >> what time of day did this all begin, if you could take us back and set the stage as to how this all started? >> well, it started shortly after 8:00 a.m., just as students and teachers were arriving. in fact, some of the teachers were not able to access the school because the police beat them to the school and taped it off. so it was right as school was starting at 8:00 a.m.

>> mr. mayor, if you could stand by for just a moment. our local affiliate kgw is interviewing the niece of someone or the uncle of someone inside. let's listen. >> that's all i know. >> i'm looking around, you see lots of parents and students here. describe the general feeling in the air. >> fear. fear. >> i'm glad your niece is okay. thank you, mark. russ, we just heard from the uncle of a student who's a freshman here at reynolds high school. his niece in ninth grade and she is holed up in a classroom but he was so relieved to have just gotten a text from her that she is okay. a lot of parents here, russ, are not hearing from their students, possibly because they don't have their phones or do not have them on them right now. so that is the sensation of fear that mark just described to us. he said fear is the general mood here and that is because a lot of parents are unsure of what is going on with their kids and if they are okay inside that school. so good for mark for hearing

from his niece. we're glad to hear she's okay and hearing from a lot more parents at the scene. more and more parents are hearing from their kids they are okay. and the majority seem to be either holed up or on lockdown of some sort inside the school right now. >> i'll let you get back to talking to some of the parents if you want to find -- >> back to mayor daqust, you've been touch with the school principal presumably, how much teachers do you believe were inside? you said people were just arriving at school. >> i don't have a good estimate. i know some of the teachers were not able to access the school because it was first thing in the morning. >> what are the procedures, lockdown procedures or other emergency procedures that your community may have put in place after other incidents? >> well, the main thing is the

level of support from every surrounding jurisdiction. you would not believe how quickly the police officers showed up and the special teams from the sheriff's office, the street in front of the school is loaded with police officers. they know exactly what to do in this situation. and it's very obvious from this incident that they know what they are doing. >> indeed. we saw just a few shots here from our affiliate from kgw of sheriff's armored vehicle and armored personnel vehicle arriving and a lot of police response. in a situation like this, do you get the fbi involved at this stage or do you get the state police involved? >> at this point in time, i'm not sure if the fbi is involved. >> all right, thank you very much, mayor doug daoust.

the procedures put in place, this is a suburban community, 16 miles outside of portland, oregon. the response as the mayor just said was rapid but you've got a situation where not all of the teachers were in place. we don't know how many adults were in the school. the kids seem to be in some cases having their own lockdown. >> exactly, andrea. they are doing what they are supposed to do. they are moving to the lockdown areas they've learned through their teachers in practice. and the police force, even though the mayor described it as small, 16 officers, no doubt they've practiced the training and active shooter training that we all practiced post columbine. so the response is quick. students are doing what they are supposed to do. teachers are doing what they are supposed to do. there is report of gunshots so we do likely have a shooter in there. but he might have been isolated. officers may already be on top

of him. we have to just wait and see how it unfolds. >> joining us now is shannon watson, moms demanding action, founder of that organization. shannon, we've been to too many of these, seen too many of these situations, but your response as you see these -- the first hour, let's say of this incident? >> it's just horrific. as a parent of five children, i can't even imagine what these parents are going through. and it's not like we don't have to control to stop it. we do. this is at least the 75th shooting since the shooting at sandy hook. parents watching these things, they are coming to your backyard. it is time to act. >> what more do you think the state and local and federal governments need to do? >> first of all, congress has got to move -- their job is to

protect constituents and they are not. they are protecting the gun lobby. it is time to vote to close the background check loophole. states should do the exact same thing. we're working with american businesses to change gun policies we're trying to change the culture of gun violence one step at a time. we need the help of business people, of members of congress, of legislators, but most of all to people listening to show your right now. you can't wait to act. we're seeing that every day, we have to demand action. >> jim kavanaugh, we don't know what kind of gunfire -- they haven't identified anything in particular about this unknown shooter. >> right, andrea, so many unknowns, parents are naturally apprehensive, i would have to say seeing the feed from nbc there, the police are doing what they are supposed to do. they are doing it as rapidly as they can. and they are going to deal with it as effectively as anyone

could from what we can see right now. i think social media will play a role and kids will be getting the word out through their iphones portable devices. let's see what happens. >> the kids are trying to get word out to the parents. some of the parents have been outside and talking to kgw. let's listen in. >> a lot of people, a lot of confusion. how would you describe the scene? >> nobody knows what's going on. some people got texts and some people didn't. we just wait. we just wait. >> reporter: you did hear from your son that he is okay but it's obviously still emotional. i can see the tears in your eyes. as a parent, how did it feel to get that text from him? >> awesome, wonderful, relief. i want to go find him. >> reporter: we'll let you get back to getting information and glad to hear your son is okay. we'll send it back to you, cathy, parents very emotional here at the scene.

we'll continue to talk to the parents and bring updates when we can. cathy? >> and as we continue to watch this scene, we're talking about an unknown shooter. we believe only one but we don't know more details about that. active shooter in troutdale oregon. police and emergency responders from a number of towns as you can see converged on the scene. there are reports of injuries. we have not confirmed. we're monitoring that situation and bring you the platest details. we've talked to shannon watts, who is the 42-year-old mother of five children. she has been an active mother in indianapolis indiana, concerned about gun laws and national action. is the mayor still on the phone, mayor doug -- i think the mayor had to go back -- and jim

kavanaugh, former fbi negotiator, jim, tell us now how do they determine just what the response should be and whether or not there's any way of negotiating or finding out who this person is and presumably it's only one person. >> right, andrea. the protocol is to locate, isolate and then evacuate. they are going to try to locate the shooter and isolate him in this same moments and also trying to evacuate people. if students have locked themselves down, police will try to push the shooter into a certain room location where it's only him. you know, they've got to get him stopped and isolated before there can be any negotiation. an active shooter is not a person who wants to negotiate. he's a person who wants to kill. and we know this from all of these events that have gone on. we also know that police are very effective in engaging them and stopping the carnage. so you saw just this week in the

shooting at the police officers in las vegas where when the officers arrived, the two teams immediately went back and pressed the two, the couple, the sovereign citizen people to the back of the walmart and engaged them and they committed suicide. but nevertheless, the protocol is to get them isolated, stopped from killing anybody else and that's the first thing. >> right now, jim, we don't know whether the shooter was inside or outside the school. >> we don't know, andrea. the things are still sketchy for us here. we're still trying to put together the reporters on the scene have been giving some good information. they did get a report to police as was reported there of an active shooter. they know life flight was dispatched. that could be routine or it could be as a result of a known

injury. we know the police have responded with their active shooter protocols. and we know that students have, you know, tweeted out to their parents that they are there and they are safe. we know what's going on we've heard there's reports of shots in there but we don't know how many, type of weapon, what's going on, whether it's slow down, stopped or police have engaged somebody or not. it's still a pretty active operation right now. law enforcement also has to you know, find the guy. sometimes in a facility, it's not so simple. there's a lot of rooms, classrooms and offices and j gymnasiums and officers don't know where the shooter is. they have to go in and rely on maybe hearing some screaming or yelling and try to find them and engage them. >> the mayor doqust has dialed

back in. can you tell us whether you know the shooter was inside or outside the facility? >> no, i'm not aware of where the shooter was. all we know is that it was confirmed that we did have a shooter but that's all i know. >> and do you know whether it was one or more than one? >> we do not know at this time. >> and what about any injuries? any injuries reported from inside the school? >> reported at this time, they are telling all of the parents that are curious to go to the nearby shopping center so there's some level of order around here. >> so parents are being told to wait at a nearby shopping center, is that correct? i want to make sure i heard you correctly? >> yes, it's real close. obviously there's parents all over the place but a logical place for them to go is the shopping center where they can

wait and hear from their kids. >> and pete williams is joining us now, our justice correspondent. pete, i know you've checked with federal authorities, they are not yet involved? >> no, and you know, it's -- the word has very very sketchy information that we have back here from federal authorities who are monitoring the situation. but what we're told is by one official that the -- the shooting in any case is appears to be over, that there were reports that shots were fired. but one official tells us there has been no word of any fatalities. we don't know beyond that whether students were wounded or whether people were hurt. we just don't know very much at this point, andrea. >> and we don't know yet whether there were any magnetometer and not being an urban school it's less likely there would be bag

checks. mr. mayor, if you're still on the phone, wondering whether there were any procedures in place to check for weapons at this particular school? >> yeah, at reynolds high school, like i mentioned, it's the second largest high school in oregon. there's thousands of students. there are at least as far as i know, no bag checks or no screening of the students as they enter the school. >> and what we're seeing now according to nbc news, they have not received any injured victims from the incident. this is from julie reed, legacy health public relations. and mr. mayor, we're also hearing a report that the shooter is confirmed dead. can you confirm that? >> well, i can't but -- >> this is from our local

affiliate. confirmed by kgw apparently. >> yes, i'm seeing the things that you are so that's all i know. >> okay. pete williams, obviously we've had a series of incidents, we've been talking -- >> hold on just a second. let me get right back to you, please. >> yes, sir, pete. pete is obviously checking with his sources at fbi and the department of justice. jim cavanaugh. we don't know whether this is indeed over and whether order can be restored to the school. but there is one report that no other injuries are reported i'm being told. this is in kgw, athat police are telling our local reporters that the situation is under control. so the latest we're hearing is that there may have been one shooter, that the situation is under control, that there are no other injuries and that there

may be one fatality, which could be the person with the gun. mayor, i know you have to check in with your officials, but so far we're hering there is an all clear to this lockdown situation at reynolds high school. have you heard anymore? >> no, i have not. and i should go now. i do have to talk -- >> i think obviously you need to go check in. thank you very much for all of your help with this breaking news situation. we hope the situation is clarifying. pete williams, do you have anymore? >> yes, it appears pretty clearly now andrea, that the person who fired the shots has in fact is dead. a federal official is telling us this. now as you are seeing this school, troutdale oregon is in noma county. according to this just released from the department, the shooter

is confirmed dead. confirmed deceased is the term they are using. they don't say something though about the extent to which there are injuries or any other problems to other students. the initial word back here, andrea, was that the whatever trauma may be associated with this is pretty limited. but you probably are seeing this now. let me read this whole thing from the sheriff's office. 8:07 a.m. this morning, that's obviously pacific time, 11:07 eastern time. police responded to reynolds high school on the report of shots fired at the school. multiple agencies responded and tactical teams are currently evacuating students and staff. the situation is stabilized and the shooter is confirmed deceased. parents are asked to reunify with their students and gives the name of a commercial

location at the wood village fred meyer, located at northeast 223rd and northeast glisten street. all other people are asked to ta stay away from the area. they'll use a hash tag on social media to pass along further information. #rhs for reynolds high school shooting. #rh shooting. media staging is at a parking lot southeast part of the lot. but they say that's the important word. it's over. the shooter is dead. and we're simply waiting now to hear about whether other students were hurt in this attack. let's keep our fingers crossed. the early word we have here is that one official just said that the injures and casualties appear to be quite limited. >> thank you so much, pete and thanks to jim. it looks as though the situation

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just to recap, we had an incident in troutdale oregon, 16 miles outside of portland. it's the second largest high school in oregon and police and local officials say right now there is one person, the shooter, we believe, is dead. no other injuries that we know of. the high school students are being evacuated and parents are being told to go to a nearby shopping center to reunite with their students the hash tag

#rsshooting is what they are being told to watch. one of the worst incident of friendly five in afghanistan. the phg is investigating how fie troops could have been killed by bombs from a stealth bomber during a fight. ann gearan who has been covering the pentagon and state department and the white house as well for the "washington post," first to you, mik, what is the latest we know about how this could have happened? >> we're told that a group of u.s. special operations forces on a mission training mission with afghan security had been working in the area zabul when

they came under heavy fierce attack from taliban forces which forced americans to call in an air strike from a b-1 stealth bomber. it's not clear exactly how this happened. but one of the weapons at least one of the weapons, struck amidst the americans and afghans killing five americans and at least one afghan soldier. centcom has an investigation under way to figure out what went wrong. incoordinates or provided into the weapon itself or was there some sort of electronic error. it's way too early to tell that. at a time when most people think that the afghanistan is coming to an end, if it's not already ended, a stark reminder that tens of thousands of americans are still at risk there and in harm's way in afghanistan. >> indeed. richard engel, in landstuhl

germany, where bowe bergdahl is still being reacclimated and checked by medical pentagon health officials. what is the latest from bowe bergdahl and what we're hearing from the pentagon as to when he might be transferred home to san antonio? >> i wish i could tell you more. we're not hearing much of anything from the officials here. only that his treatment is ongoing, that he is still -- he's physically better than expected and could be transferred if the physical condition was the only factor here at any time. but he's still going through a lot of psychological counseling. the expectation is this will be a few more days but we don't know that and we're not not getting hard confirmation. i've also been making phone calls on this friendly fire attack and i know it has shaken a lot of people up. this kind of thing doesn't happen very often. these are very precise weapons

and precise aircraft, when you're in the middle of a fire fight and call in for close air support, the expectation -- you can see the plane overhead an they can see the fire fight as it's taking place. they usually drop the bombs in the right place and obviously something went terribly wrong. >> and ann gearan, the tragedy compounded for the families, for those troops by the fact that the war is winding down and there is a psychological expectation. they are packing up. this was a training mission. they are no longer forward combat operations but training the afghans to replace them on the front lines. >> right and from what we know so far the forces involved in this operation were working alongside afghans, it's been for quite a long time that afghans had the lead in combat operations. and because of the abilities and certainly the weaponry that the

americans can offer, they help. but it really has for some time supposed to have been an afghan fight. and later this year, it would transfer to a 100% afghan fight. but for now, there are more than 30,000 american forces in afghanistan and clearly still in harm's way. >> jim miklaszewski, we've had incidents over the years of afghan forces and afghan police and others turning on americans, tragically. but i can't think of another major incident of friendly fire of this kind of mistake. there was the pat tillman horrible friendly fire incident finally acknowledged by the pentagon back in 2004. ten years ago. there were several incidents involving british and canadian forces who were hit by friendly fire, but i can't think of too many incidents involving american troops that have been killed by friendly fire over this very long war. >> there have been incidents

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and reporting on the bergdahl case. david, first to you, you escaped only a few weeks before bergdahl was taken. we believe by the very same group. what can you tell ugs about the group and their m.o.? >> their m.o. is to grab people in afghanistan and move them into pakistan. the interesting thing about my case and bergdahl case, the h a haqani network, why didn't the pakistani military find bowe bergdahl and since they have ties with this faction, why didn't the pakistani military pressure them to release bergdahl? we have given pakistan $18 billion in military aid since 2001. >> and we see these latest incidents in karachi, two days in a row under fire by taliban

elements there. there's been so much attention to -- not enough as many would say to afghanistan, but so little attention to our so-called allies in fak stan and what they are or not doing as you points out. no information from them i'm told over the years as to where bergdahl might have been. no hope in negotiating a better deal with the taliban than the one we negotiated. john boehner, speaker of the house, at a news conference today and pushed back very hard against the contention from the administration that the reason for not briefing congress -- congress doesn't have to approve this but should be notified 30 days in advance of any release from quan tan mow. this is what boehner had to say today. >> six months before osama bin

laden was taken down, i was briefed on this. i was briefed multiple times over the course of the six months. i was given a head's up several days before this happened. so this idea that they couldn't trust us to not leak things is just not true. >> this is not just i should say from boehner and republicans but from dianne feinstein, from the head of the senate intelligence committee, even though the administration has very fiercely fought back saying they did not brief prior to the bin laden case. there's a lot of confusion about this. >> i'm not clear who's telling the truth whether there was briefing before bin laden. but my honest opinion is the administration felt if congress felt out about it they would block the exchange. i think there were health concerns about bergdahl but they thought congress would block it and went ahead on their own and claim it was because of the

signing statement the president added to the law about releasing prisoners from guantanamo. but i think they thought congress would obstruct it. >> david rhode thank you so much. apologies of a problem with the location of helene cooper but we'll bring you helene cooper as soon as we can. meanwhile, hillary clinton probably expected ben gazdy, her comments on that and her fut you'll political plans during this book tour launched today. it's been the reaction to her comments about how the now wealthy clintons were dead broke when they left the white house which grabbed the biggest headlines. the former secretary of state had a second chance at this topic this morning. >> let me just clarify, i fully appreciate how hard life is for so many americans today. it's an issue that i've worked on and careded about my entire adult life. >> can you understand the reaction when you say struggling and when you say -- >> yes, i can but i think you

know, everything in life has to be put into context. and as i recall we were something like $12 million in debt. we have a life experience that is clearly different and very dramatic ways from many americans but we also have gone through some of the same challenges as many people have. >> well, getting a second bite at that apple, hillary clinton now in our daily fix is chris cillizza and ann gearan who covered hillary clinton for the "washington post" during her entire time at the state department. thanks for joining us. at had hour hillary clinton is at the barnes & noble in new york, lining up outside around the block, 1,000 people we're told will be able to get in for the signing. they are going to get four seconds each with hillary

clinton. she won't personalize any autographs, that's typically the way it is done with big celebrity books such as this. we've seen it before, with bill clinton and hillary clinton's past books and sarah palin's book. but this is a big book launch. ann gearan, you covered the state department along with me all of those years. hillary clinton has written a serious book about the state department years and cautious book. how would you characterize what we've learned, her take about the state department years? >> you're right. it is a serious and cautious book. it is a cover of the waterfront, this is what happened, issue by issue, year by year of her time at the state department. it's a good guide to her priorities and to the main issues confronting the united states. i would say they pulls a few punches here and there. and she says at the beginning

there are elements of her occasional disagreement with other people in the administration and the white house that she will not detail. but she doesn't really -- doesn't come out swinging. this is not bob gates book, doesn't let it rip at all. >> she does say in answer to cynthia mcfadden about her comments about sarah palin when after the candidacy was announced her advice about not going after palin as a woman. let's watch this. >> the day she was nominated, the obama campaign did contact me and ask me if i would attack her. attack her for what? for being a woman? attack her for being on a ticket trying to draw attention? there will be plenty of time to do what i think you should do in politics, which is draw distinctions. >> and sarah palin has tweeted back about this saying, look who fired the first shot in the real war on women, hint, it wasn't

the gop? see this excerpt from hillary's book. a politically fun tweet from sarah palin back. chris cillizza, you've been reading the book and watching the politics of all of this. it's very clear from her response, for instance, on benghazi which she was asked by abc about benghazi, would that be a reason not to run. she said that would be more of a reason to run. >> i would say look at the response you play at the start of the segment with her trying to clarify the segments about being dead broke and needing to pay for houses. i think she's technically correct. they were in real debt from their legal issues but they had a former president of the united states and first lady. the fact that she went back and clarified it, suggests to me, this is not someone, and ann made the point this is not someone who has something to lose and telling it how it is. this is someone who is using

this book launch as a sort of soft rollout. anybody can change their mind. but it seems to me at this point she's functionally running for president and using this book tour as a soft rollout. the clarification of that remark being an example number one. >> one of my favorite, ann gearan, when she was asked on abc this morning about her pick in the nba playoffs. do we have that tape? she was asked whom he favored and does she favor florida or texas? and it was very clear that she said, oh, of course florida, the swing state. there's no question as to whether they was going red or blue in her nba picks. >> yeah, i mean she's being koy and funny and kind of playing along with the obvious question, which she gets asked in various

forms in every one of these interviews but hangs over every bit of this book tour. is this step one, a prelude to what will be the next two years of a hillary clinton campaign. and i did -- you know, there are lots of little jokes like that where she sort of like -- yeah, i know why you're asking that. she's very coy. >> and final one, game three of the nba finals, heat or spurs, texas or florida, that's tough. >> florida. when you pose it like that. >> no question about that. chris cillizza, we know we'll see more of this. cynthia's interview tonight and tomorrow night on nbc nightly news as well. and your final thoughts about hillary clinton, day one of the big book tour. day two will be chicago. >> look, this is a huge sort of -- it's going to draw a lot of attention. it has already drawn a lot of

attention. the book itself, a serious but cautious book. it just seems to me that we -- the rollout of this book, the way in which they did it and leaking the benghazi chapter, her response to criticism about being the dead broke comments, all of it is exactly what you would do if you were running for president. and she is not said i'm running yet but it seems to me with this book tour we are right at the precipice. no matter when she ultimately announces. >> ann gearan get your bags packed. you did a million miles with hillary clinton at the state department and now about to do it in a lengthy campaign. she said she's not going to announce until the end of 2015 or beginning of 2015 or ends of next year sfwl she said she'll make a decision by the end of this year but we don't expect to hear what that is for a little while after that. >> thank you very much. as i said, you can watch more of cynthia mcfadden's big interview tonight on nbc nightly news.

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unaccompanied children have been flooding the border by the thousands creating a crisis for state and federal authorities. what is behind this mass exo dus. joining me now is counsel general to the united states in arizona who this weekend visited an arizona warehouse where many of these kids are being transferred and processed. first of all, what are the conditions? what did you see when you were there? how safe are they in this holding area? >> well, thank you for your interest, i spent all day saturday and sunday and on my way as soon as i'm done with the interview. 936 children, 236 from honduras. the conditions were not the best. this is a big warehouse and detention center with portable

toilets with crates on the floor. they told me they ordered 2,000 mattresses, the children have not taken a shower in 10 to 12 days. when i left sunday, they were open two showers and some girls were able to take a shower for first time. they told me they were planning to build 60 more and i'll find out more when i get there. >> why is this happening? i know it's been building for time. we're seeing more of an exo dus of unaccompanied children from central america. >> you know, that's a question everybody wants to know. what i can tell you based on my experience by interviewing over 150 children from honduras is that 95% of these children have a family member, a mom or dad or both parents here in the u.s. and they are coming to reunify with their parents. >> and what are your complaints about the way the u.s. government is handling this so far? >> regardless of the legal

status there are basic rights afforded to all human beings, they complain of being on the floor, unable to take a bath for 12 days, unable to brush their teeth, basic stuff that any human being should have allowed to have. they complain it's too cold, too warm. >> is there a way you as an official from honduras can help reunify them with their parents? this is challenging because the parents or many cases undocumented and may be hard to find. >> we do what we can to make sure they are afforded their rights. we help with documents, but that is a decision that's made by i.c.e. and officer reunification. we do what we can on our end but that's a decision ultimately made by i.c.e.

>> from homeland security, border patrol. >> yes. >> thank you for being with us as you continue to try to look out for these unaccompanied children who are in the worst possible situation alone in these warehouses. thank you very much. >> thank you for your interest. >> we're learning more about the chilling details today about that las vegas couple, they went on a murderous rampage on sunday. they killed two police officers who had been eating lurvelg and walmart shopper before taking their own lives. at the press conference yesterday, police shared some details of the couple's time with a white supremacy and extremist movement. >> they placed a don't tread on me yellow flag on the body of officer beck and threw a swastika on top of his body. >> we're also learning the couple was at a anti-government ma lish leader bundy ranch in april.

jared, the man spoke to nbc's las vegas affiliate before they were kicked off that day. >> i feel sorry for any federal agents that want toe come in here and push us around. i don't want violence told them. if they will come bring vail violence to us, if that's the kind of language they speak, we'll learn it. >> chilling words indeed. matthew miller, former spokesman for eric holder. what do we know about the movement and this couple's role in the movement? had they been tracked by federal authorities because of their involvement? >> i don't think we know yet. of course, anti-extremists -- anti-government extremists existed in this country for a long time but there there seems to be a bit of a rising tide lately that we've seen. it's something federal authorities have been watching. they certainly are watching in nevada. it's difficult when you have a situations like the cliven bundy incident where you have really

armed militias going out to defend and try to stop law enforcement from carrying out their jobs. >> we hear from neighbors that they had said as they left -- they left that day with a shopping cart filled with weapons and indicated what they were about to do. does a neighbor have any responsibility legally? certainly morally but legally? >> legally i don't know they do. morally, you have to think why they didn't think to call 911 and report. when you see your neighbors leaving and you have to think that they had expressed some of these thoughts before, they were so extreme to be thrown out of an extremist movement, which is happened when they were kicked out of bundy's ranch, you have to think there were signs that were there. >> according to the southern poverty law center, 939 active hate groups in the united states. how well equipped is the justice department and fbi at finding these groups and finding out

when they cross the line into becoming active rather than threatening? >> they pay a lot of attention to it and brought a lot of cases over the past few years. but by the time it gets to law enforcement, it's too late. there's a toxic swamp, this dangerous situation where you have anti-government combined with a gun culture and often times the flames are stoked by motives for votes and ratings. by the time law enforcement can get involved it's too late. either because there's no way to tell what they were going to do or in a case like las vegas happens after fatalities. >> saw this back with waco and when bill clinton is president. this is a sensitive question. to what extent was this -- did they escalate because we have an african-american president.

so many racist sentiments interwoven with neo-nazi sentiments. >> it's hard to know the motives, especially someone who carries out this. these types of anti-government groups have risen 800% since obama took office. if you look at the rhetoric on the right, it's not all motivated by race. bill clinton dealt with the same stuff, he's a white man from arkansas. but for some people it probably is a role. >> matt miller, thank you so much. an extremely troubling story indeed. and speaking of troubling stories, we now know from local authorities that police say the first wave of students is leaving the school, that parents are going to be reunited with their students in that shopping center area. this is according to the local officials telling our affiliate kgw. it could be as long as two hours

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we begin this hour with breaking news out of oregon. reports that a shooter is dead after opening fire inside a high school. let's listen into a press conference. >> everybody is okay there? everybody ready? okay, this developing situation, we have a lot of local agencies on scene. i have chief scott anderson with the troutdale police department doing a short statement for you. once he talks after he completes what he says, we have linda florns, who is the

superintendent of the reynolds school district. after that, i'll talk with you more. okay. >> here's chief anderson. >> today is a very tragic day for the city of troutdale and reynolds school district. a gunman entered the high school this morning, shot one student, unfortunately that student has died. the gunman was located and the gunman is also deceased. for the parents of the students who have been evacuated from the school, there's a point of contact down at fred meyer's in wood village. we would like all of you to meet your students down at that point and also staff that are there. we'll have an update at noon. i'll bring more information to you as lieutenant alexander said. the investigation will continue throughout the day. and i'm very, very sorry for the family and for all of the students and everybody impacted by this tragic incident. like i said, we'll have an