superintendent of the reynolds school district. after that, i'll talk with you more. okay. >> here's chief anderson. >> today is a very tragic day for the city of troutdale and reynolds school district. a gunman entered the high school this morning, shot one student, unfortunately that student has died. the gunman was located and the gunman is also deceased. for the parents of the students who have been evacuated from the school, there's a point of contact down at fred meyer's in wood village. we would like all of you to meet your students down at that point and also staff that are there. we'll have an update at noon. i'll bring more information to you as lieutenant alexander said. the investigation will continue throughout the day. and i'm very, very sorry for the family and for all of the students and everybody impacted by this tragic incident. like i said, we'll have an update at noon.

thank you very much. >> now i have linda florns, superintendent reynolds school district. >> this is a very tragic day. one that i had hoped would never ever be part of my experience. and as we are able to get more information, the district will provide that to the public. we feel very sorry for our parents and our kids were wonderful today at exiting the building. as i said, we'll have a press release later as we get more information. >> we're not taking anymore questions but it's important to stress this is continuing investigation. please stay away from the reynolds high school area and parents pick up your high school at the wood village fred meyer.

we'll push out updates through the #rsshooting. >> are there any more injuries besides the student who is was shot? >> my understanding is they are still investigating. the school -- still going -- initial indications are that is it but we're still working the investigation. >> okay. >> the situation is con tabed and shooter is deceased and we're working on reunifying the students with the parents over at the wood village fred meyer, police pass that out. we'll push out information through #rsshooting and news releases we develop as we get more details as we figure out what occurred and what went on. we're still moving students out of the school. my understanding most of them are out if not all of them but we are continuing to work towards that and get that out and cleared and reunified with

their parents. parents, 223rd and gleason. >> has anyone been transported by ambulance? >> we'll talk more about that when we have those details. okay? i can't confirm any details on what was used, weapon or as far as what type. we'll have that information later today once the investigation developed. we'll let you know as soon as we know more. okay? >> can you confirm if a teacher was injured? >> i don't have those details but i'll let you know as soon as they are able to be released as the investigation continues. >> that was it for fatalities? >> that's my understanding, initial indications. >> you're not sure? >> they are still looking through the school and my understanding is that is the initial indications that this is all we have the situation contained and shooter is deceased and we're working on reuniting with parents. 223rd and gleeson.

i'll be back. >> we've been listening to a prs conference out of troutdale high school. the details are scant but a gunman entered the high school this morning and shot one student who they reported now is deceased. the gunman also reported to be deceased. the school has been evacuated and families are being directed to a meeting point and referred to people to the #rsshooting as this evolves. pete williams has been following this story from washington. thank you so much. what more do we know now? >> not much. here's the situation. why it's taking so long and the reason is we're told by law enforcement officials is police are actually searching all the students as they leave the high school. this is a large high school. this is according to the mayor of troutdale, the second largest high school in oregon. it has about 2700 students in four grades normally, 9 through 12. most of the seniors were not there today. it's just two days from

graduation. so it's mostly the 9th through 11th graders, three classes but a large number of students in the school when it happened. as each of them leaves the school they are being patted down because the police want to make certain that only one person was involved, only one person was armed. so that's why this is such a slow process. that's on the outgoing students and then the other part of the slow process is that police are now going through the school room by room to make sure that they have the scene fully under control, that there are no more people with guns, that there are no more injured people. but the best information so far, given that this is not fully over in the sense of doing a full accounting of it, was that there were two people killed, the gunman who walked in and shot a student who died and gunman also killed. so that's a total of two victims that appears to be all.

but that's again, something of a preliminary assessment until they finish going through the entire school, they can't be certain. the reports of other victims just haven't been confirmed. there's been april lot of stuff on social media and rumors among the student. most of that information is turning out not to be true. the gunman appears to be a student but we can't confirm that. we don't know what the weapon was. there are lots of different descriptions of the weapon. many of the students say that this happened in the gymnasium or locker room, that's where it happened today. we're going to have to wait for more information as the police give a full accounting of this later today. >> and we heard a number of those rumors mirrored in those questions, people asking about additional injuries and potential additional deaths, right now as pete said no additional deaths and we have received reports from a nearby hospital that they haven't

received any injured so far. we'll keep track of all of this. thank you so much. i want to bring in jim cavanaugh, retired atf special agency in charge and knows this situation well. what is first thing police do when they respond to a hectic scene like the one you see here? >> ronan, post columbine we train to do active killer response. that's to move in quickly, no waiting. sometimes you move in even with one officer, hopefully you can get two or three and move in and try to locate first the shooter because these people are coming to the school in this case to commit murder and suicide, usual will you, they go hand in hand. and so you have to get to him quickly. you know, we'll see how this unfolds, educator or teacher stop him? did he shoot the student? we don't know exactly how it

unfolded. but the protocol is to find him. once you locate him, to engage him or isolate him. once you can engage and isolate simultaneously or other place can evacuate. then they can try to make it safe. this is tragic, the student went to school and lost his life for another beserk gunman. >> and agony for the rest of the student population, started at 8:07 a.m. it is the second to last day of school. and of course it proved to be anything but with an 1:15 of this standoff before it ended in this bway. once the shooter is confirmed dead, how does the police response change? we heard they are searching the school trying to identify whether there's anything else on the other students. what's the next step after the evacuation, jim? >> well, as pete described, ronan, it's to secure the place. active shooter response is very

fast. and then you go into securing the facility, which is sort of a medium pace. that is where tactical offices make sure there's no other shooter where they are searching and students are leaving the building. sort of a medium pace. then we go into the forensic processing which is a slow pace. you actually move the opposite way we think, fast, medium slow. when they go into forensics, the process the scene and track the gun and look at the bullets and examine everything, that will be a slow process. >> all right, retired atf special agent jim cavanaugh. another shooting in vegas left two police officers and civilian dead this week. i'm joined on the phone by cliff shefter, he wrote about repercussions of these sessions and political role in lobbying

groups on the hill. thank you so much for being here. what are your thoughts today after this most recent school shooting? >> first of all, my pleasure, thanks for having me on, ronan. my thoughts are that this is not going to stop. we know how to stop this and watched every other country high income country like us, most recently aus trailial in 1996 after the port arthur massacre who was on a similar path to us, they have not had one mass shooting since then even though they had 11 of them in the ten years preceding that. it's not a mystery. we have the national rifle association who in service of who their real clients are, which are the gun manufacturers that make millions off of selling military style rifles and military style weaponry to people, they don't want any regulations so the nra goesz to bat for them and comes up with

false justifications for why this has any relevance to the second amendment. we've got kids walking around either mentally troubled and right wing people with far right wing politics like those who shot two police officers in las vegas, execution style, and left a nazi swastika. and it will keep happening if we don't do anything about this. >> cliff, for people at home and parents watching this right now, wanting it to be not one more, one of the hash tags that's gone viral, what can they do that you think will be politically effective? >> they need to rattle the cage. i'm a parent and got two young boys. people need to get out there. there are a number of great groups. we've got moms demand action who has gone after a number of corporate entities to try to

make them take guns out of their stores, right now there's an effort by a group i work, gun victim aegs action counsel to get people to tell hall mark to get guns out of their store and get off the sidelines like we have in the past when it came to racial equality, when it came to gay rights and corporations can't za stay on the sidelines when 90% think we should have universal background checks. we need to get corporations involved and non-profits involved. there's no lack of groups you can reach out to and become involved in the grass roots become involved in going and getting -- >> cliff, we see here actually on the screen, the families waiting, so many of them -- >> it's horrifying. >> not having answers about where their kids are. >> it's horrifying. how can we let that happen in this country? it's almost surreal. this is not the united states. this is not the country we were brought up to believe in.

and we let right wing extremists on our gun policy, a very small percentage take over. you need to make your voices heard and vote because they count on the guys who are the craziest on the far right and other 90% need to show up at the midterms and legal your local legislators and senators in states who voted against a very reasonable bill in congress a year ago let them know that they better not do the same and we need gun regulations now and need to let corporations and others know they need to get off the sidelines. this a national epidemic and we need to do something about it. >> you point the finger at the gun companies in this case? >> absolutely, they've given millions and millions of report to show that they've given millions to the nra. the nra fought against every regulation and background checks after columbine they came out in favor of. what is the reason for not

making sure criminals don't get their hands on guns? ? nevada, one was a felon but there's a private loophole. why is facebook allowing people to sell guns to people without background checks. there's just a lot of ways you can get involved and make sure that the people who are allowing this to happen and think they can just ignore this cannot ignore this. the gun companies too. i think it's time for maybe people to go for a little march on the nra headquarters in fairfax and let them know. the nra doesn't let anybody from outside of their orbit carry guns there because concealed carry is good for everybody except at their own headquarters. >> cliff, thank you so much for that overview, we're seeing a lot of outpouring of support online and people posing the questions you're posing. first, i want to listen in on the coverage from kgw here. >> to this checkpoint here at

the wood village fred meyer. we have several thousand parents here already. you know, the kids are being loaded on the buses and en route here now. very important once you get down here, this needs to be an orderly process in order for us to get kids back to the parents safely. we need to make sure parents don't come into this inner perimeter. this is our control area so we can make sure we check this kid out and account for them and get them back to the loved ones safely. it's very, very important that we do not cross the red and yellow tape here. raise your hand high if you see your student, we'll bring you to them and get you reunited. >> chief deputy gates, what is the process going to be? name, bull horn? >> both. some of the students won't have parents here or anybody to pick them up yet. those we are keeping here until we get family or friends or somebody. nobody will be allowed to leave on their own. somebody has to come get them

one way or the other. the process is really important for the safety of everybody and making sure we don't get anybody injured with the bum's rush out here. so it's important that we just be patient, raise your hand if up see your kid and we'll get you to them. >> something else you and i talked about. if parents are all the way in the back. >> parents, if you're in the back of the line and getting here late and back of the line, raise your hand high, we'll get somebody out there to bring you through the crowd. >> thank you so much. >> first buses pull in right now into the fred meyer parking lot, you can see them there. >> that was our local affiliate, kgw. we have a shooting in troutdale oregon, a gunman who entered reynolds high school this morning at 8:07 a.m. and standoff that lasted for an hour and 15 minutes in which he shot one student and apparently in which the gunman also ended up deceased.

the school has been evacuated and families are being directed to a meeting point. there's a lot of confusion. we see the scene there about exactly where people's loved ones are. they are waiting for answers. meanwhile, many of the students were texting loved ones to tell them they were already but many did take to twitter and voice their concerns and show support for the community. young k.d. tweeted, honestly, what's wrong with people these days? it's a sad world we live in. #prayforreynolds. >> that shootser was someone's child. someone lost a child today and it could have been prevented. don't pray for reynolds, do something. the #rhshooting is where officials say answers will be. up next on "ronan farrow daily," we're going to stay on the story but look whether arizona officials are breaking the law by housing undocumented

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child abuse, that's the allegation by a state attorney in arizona now suggesting that the federal government may be violating state law by housing hundreds of undocumented immigrant children in a warehouse. at this hour nearly 1,000 children are being held in the warehouse. their beds cots with foil blankets. by law the government has 72 hours to process them. they are arriving by the bus load, hundreds in just a matter of days. >> we're getting such a high influx of minors that we're having to take care of here at the processing center, the agents are equipped and agents know what they are doing.

the problem at this point is that we got hit hard. >> it's raising serious ethical questions and now some legal ones, including from a supporter from sheriff arpaio's immigration policies. bill montgomery is the man raising the questions. you wrote a letter saying this is not the america we aspire to be and does not responsibleably address the challenges we face of unauthorized immigration. the obama administration is racing to address this growing humanitarian crisis opening facilities to house these childrens at bases in california, texas, oklahoma. and requesting $1.5 billion in additional fundsing from congress to handle the care of these unaccompanied children. they are going to need it, an estimated 90,000 unaccompanied minors could enter the country this year. meanwhile, congress is still at

a stalemate on a broken dysfunctional immigration system with some racing to point fingers instead of work towards solutions. representatives like bob good latte, called this an administration made disaster. is it? what can be done to fix it? joining me from capitol hill is congressman from texas. what is your response to these legal questions? did the federal government break the law? >> first of all, let's look at what the cause of the problem here. down in my particular district, we're getting 1200 undocumented persons a day. 300 to 400 of them are children coming in without parents. and over 70% of them are coming in from other countries, not mexico but other countries especially central america. so the question is, how do we address this humanitarian crisis we're seeing down there. how do we address our

immigration laws and foreign policy so we can address this. otherwise we're playing defense on the one yard line called the u.s./mexico border. >> congressman, this partly seems to be a resources question and you're of course part of the appropriations committee and that will be reviewing this request for $1.5 billion in additional funds. the budget for unaccompanied immigrants was just $35 million back in 2003. it's changed a lot. this year it was 868 million. how did the government manage to so misjudge the resources it takes to adequately respond to this phenomenon? >> not only they misjudge when they said it was 800 million, recently they asked for $1.3 million. they were off. in fact, tomorrow we'll do the homeland appropriation and that will address part of it. when we get to the health and human services, which is the one that has the office of refugee

resettlement, that's where the bulk of the money is coming in. i've seen photographs of the people there in fact i'll be there this weekend, go to the uncompanied kids and talk to the people there the different officers, border patrol officers, everybody working together to address this issue. again, if we don't work with mexico and honduras and el salvador or guatemala, all we'll do is keep playing defense. we're seeing what's happening when someone comes in and takes one border patrol agent will take two hours to process that individual, so if you multiply that times 1200 we get in a day, that will tell you not only that we have to address the humanitarian crisis but it's actually taking the border patrol away from the border where they are supposed to be securing the border. >> we really appreciate it and we would love to come back to you on this esh yu. moved so many in our audience. >> ahead, we'll have an update

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i didn't know where else to go. >> so many unanswered questions still. the process of evacuating these students is still under way. it's a huge high school and s.w.a.t. teams are searching it room by room. then they are pulling these students out. we're going to continue to follow the situation and bring you updates as they happen. first, here's a story of principle that we wanted to make sure we bring you. a number for you, one in 68. that's the number of kids in america on the autism spectrum, a number that's surging every year. so many families affected by autism are well aware that grappling with this condition can take a toll. a new medical report released just yesterday found that families caring for someone with autism could spend up to $2.4 million to support loved ones over the support of a lifetime. a new partnership between google and america's leading autism awareness group could change that. for researchers racing to finds

solutions. autism speaks has been working for 15 years to collect more than 10,000 genomes of children with autism, as well as data from their families. just today, they are announcing that they are going to put that data into a google cloud. to put this in perspective and show you how drastic this undertaking is. amount of information that's in one of those genomes is the equivalent to downloading 100 feature films on itunes. 10,000 genomes is the equivalent to a million movie downloads, now all of that is being stored in a specially designed cloud. it's an amount of data that up until now has been virtually impossible to share efficiently. but now with this google cloud, researchers who qualify for access can study this disease in an unprecedented way. bob wright is the co-founder of autism speaks and former ceo of nbc universal. welcome back home. >> thank you, ronan. >> tell us how this can change

the game. they are sharing data but what kind of gains would you expect to see? >> the whole genome sequencing produces so much data that it currently can't be used and computed many places. autism is very hard to work with. we haven't had break throughs we would like to have seen. this is the one -- biggest thing we could do, the biology of autism is complex. whole genome sequencing is complex and work google is doing is unique. i don't think anybody else can do this at this scale. what's the point of it? we can identify individual autisms like you have cancers as opposed to a cancer spectrum, that should allow us to arrange the presentation with autism so we have a, b, c and d and allowing pharmaceutical companies to come in and work with packages when they are not doing today and give parents a

much closer to individualized treatment and learn more about diagnosis and treatment and it's not going to take 30 years to do this. >> do you think this will be a model for other illnesses, things like breast cancer and alzheimer's. >> a lot of diseases are advanced because they've been at it for 40, 50, 70 years. this is going to be a break through and it should be for others. the problem it's been, it's been very expensive, nih doesn't do it except in little tiny amounts. yes, google has a unique capable here to be a real leader in medical scientifical research using its engineering group which is superior. >> there's a big question of funding. new legislation being marked up. does the federal government support autism research enough? >> no. no. they try but they don't.

we receive about $200 million a year, which is not -- three tenths of 1% of the budget. cancer receives about $6 billion a year. aids receives about $3 billion a year to put these in perspective. these are well defined and well understood and a lot of work has been done. and it's -- the pref lens that we have is so much greater than aids or even pediatric cancer pretty much under control now. it's terrible to get it but at least there's controls. >> and more understood. >> i have a grandson and that's the reason we're here, he'll be 13 years old this summer. he is very affected by autism. actually i have a younger daughter who lives in portland, about 16 miles from troutdale and she has children and she's worried about that. now she's got this hanging around too. and i think a lot of the issues of mental problems that people have are now coming forward.

but no solutions are being given by either the states or federal government. this is a really solid proposal and it's a mix of business and science and philanthropy doing this. it's coming together of those three things which does not happen often. >> it gives hope to a lot of our families who have autism. i have a brother who is on the autism spectrum. >> thank you. >> you're welcome very much. good fortune at this terrible crisis. >> thank you, sir. >> when a test of loyalty turns lethal. how hazing has turned deadly in too many cases and what one grieving mother is going to do about it. [ woman ] i've got someone who understands my sensitive side.

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apparently now dead. we'll keep you updated on that. first, an important story, our call to action this week. how far would you go to fit in? well a spat of recent cases suggests the answer for too many, especially too many young people is too far. like 26-year-old robert champion, he was in line to be head drum major for the florida a and m university marching band but had one last challenge before him. an initiation ritual band members are challenged to endure. head down the center aisle of the bus while other band members are free to pummel them. in this case other band members allegedly kicked and punched and hit champion with drum sticks and mall lets soon he was vomiting and said he couldn't see. this is how the ritual ended for robert champion. >> robert champion died as a result of hemorrhagic shock due

to soft tissue hemorrhage incurred by blunt force trauma. no one could have expected his college experience would include being pummeled to death. >> the band called that crossing bus seat and police called it hazing and felony. that's our subject of the call to action. the hard questions raised by cases like this for all of us, from colleges to sports, the military. champion's case, 15 were charged with manslaughter and hazing in his death. the five remaining defendants are going to stand trial two weeks from today. robert champion's family still waiting for justice. joining me is pam champion. ms. champion, i'm so sorry for your loss. what kinds of justice are you hoping for this month during trial? >> well, of course, we're looking for the courts to do

according to what the law says. i don't focus that much on what the courts and what is being done. my focus is on trying to prevent others from having to go through what we have gone through and still going through. >> and you do highlight how big this problem is for so many. in fact, three in five college students are subjected to some kind of hazing. and it doesn't stop in college. we have evidence that we'll get into over the course of this week over the other settings where we see this. why do you think this is such a persistent issue? >> well, first, let me let you know those numbers are much more than three in five. but the thing is that this is basically a culture and hazing is never accepted. we have a lot of schools, organizations, different kinds

of groups that hazing take place in. and i call it senseless. actually, the word hazing is not fitting for what is being done to students. it does not apply anymore. so the urgency now is to do something about it. and that's what the mission and my mission is because it was a mission given to me that i didn't ask for but it is now my mission to do that. to make sure that no other family have to deal with the whole problem that exist in our schools today, educational systems and knowing that this is there, yet doing nothing about it. it's time to step up and do something about it. >> and ms. champion, what needs to change? >> what needs to change, people need to take it for what it really is. seriously what it is. the term as i stated before is

being called hazing. now if it wasn't inside of a school environment, if somebody is walking a street and a bunch of people inflict harm, danger, even kill somebody, beat them to death, what do you call that? but because you have school environment where people are carrying books, then we call it hazing. but there's no difference in what's being done. what has to be done first of all is to actually look at what hazing and what we call it. what it really is. and it's really not something trivial. as you can see the numbers and statistics, give evidence that this is getting more and more an epidem epidemic, like the kicker is this -- it's a mindset, not an illness or disease, it's chaenking mindsets. >> one of problems in changing the mindset is how hard it is

for young people to talk about this. pam champion, really appreciate your time. again, so sorry for your loss. for this week's call to action we're confronting that challenge of how hard it is to talk about hazing. so we're asking you to download a free anti-hazing app to prevent and report hazing. you can find it on our website, 36% of all students said they wouldn't report hazing primarily because there's no one to tell. now there is, download the app and tweet us with #stopthehazing. let us know what you may have gone through. (whispering) hi, uh we need a new family plan. (whispering) how about 10 gigs of data to share and unlimited talk and text. (whispering) oh ten gigs sounds pretty good. (whispering) yeah really good (whispering) yeah and for a family of 4 it's a $160 a month. what! get outta here! (whispering) i'm sorry are we still doing the whisper thing? or? (whispering) o! sorry! yes yes! (whispering) we'll take it.

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home. it's important to gradually take steps into the outside world. take some walks, maybe pick up a nice hobby. a girl your age should be exploring new horizons. >> that was the new "tomb raider" game on display at the gaming industry's biggest convention e-3 and laura has done growing up. now she's in therapy and trying to connect with a darker, more sophisticated, more adult contingent of gamers. it's a challenge faced by the gaming industry as a whole, an industry that commands for revenue than movies. games today are part nostalgic toys and pieces of storytelling and art tis tri. but nowhere is that split more apparent than in the gaming industry's rapidly changing

treatment of women. it's not all good news. today's industry, the e-3 expo has in previous years been dogged with accusations of sexism, scantily clad booth babes and at the same time games have made strides using nonsexualized characters. and there are the booth babes. the changes are behind the scenes as well though. there are more female artists and there are more female executives. one of those executives with a hot game at this year's show, bonnie ross, general manager of 343 industry which has taken over the halo enterprise. congratulations, you have a tease to halo 5, both trending on twitter. other than halo evolving, what

is the biggest change at this year's show? >> you know, for us at xbox, the focus is all about games, games for everyone. you saw in the show focus is about games, great games for everyone. i think you saw games that would fit every play style and it is all about games for us at xbox-1. >> when your company took over the halo franchise, it spruced up the female character. some say the character got more sexualized when you took it over. do you disagree with that charge? do you see an image of how she's evolved, she's become more buxom and much more realistic. what do you think? >> i definitely think she's become more realistic. i think the thing that we balance and that i feel really good about with how we're expanding the universe is we have a lot of very strong female characters, and i think that some of the decisions we've made

have been really to make sure that we keep pushing to have a balance of strong male and female characters. >> since you're a woman in charge of the biggest franchise of microsoft, the gaming division, is gaming still an old boy's club too much? >> you know, it has changed. i've been in the industry for 20 years, and it is getting better but we still have a lot of work to do to get more women into gaming. but, you know, i think the thing that people love, all different genders -- the two different genders, is having a balance of what you ant to play. for me halo is something that gives me a beautiful great action and also great stories. for me as a female, i love that. >> thank you, bonnie ross. i really appreciate it. >> and as this year's expo was on display, there are big blockbusters, epic cinematic adventures and then there was some poignant art industry, like

"valiant hearts" an emotional story inspired from real life letters from world war i. that's attracted a lot of attention there today. what's going to take home game of the show and where is this industry headed in rand miller and ken are both here. rand, what's your game of the show so far? >> i like "no man sky." but, you know, i move a little more to the indian stuff. i love the indian influence. "no man sky", the open world, i want to go there, explore new planets and have my own. >> i love that spirit of exploration. ken, how about you? >> i think "valiant hearts" and i'm a follow ee eer of world wa.

>> it's very much in the spirit of your own work, which is very well researched historically. i love bringing in that history into games. i love hearing they're bringing back "grim fandango. people are home not nerdy enough to know that can google it. do you think the way games portray women has changed substantially in the last few years? >> yeah. to a certain extent it's been -- you take the easy road, the games have taken the easy road, just like move he's do a lot. but i think that's changing. once again, i got to point to the indy influence. from my experience, there's a lot of women on the indy side of things and i think it's showing in both the creativity they bring to it the sensibilities

and the portrayal. >> have you seen a shift in how many women are playing a creative role? >> yeah. i mean, one challenge we have is that i think when -- the thing you said before about female characters in general evolution of portrayal characters has just gotten a lot better. that's because you're seeing not just diversity of gender and color, you're seeing diversity of -- when i got in the industry, people were just interested in science fiction. you're seeing a lot more diversity of interests and i think that's making a much more interesting diversity of content. >> and there's more space for the independent games, the equivalent of a sundance movie pip just played a game "gone home," the equivalent of a lesbian love story, not what you expect in games.

nintendo just got criticism for not including same-sex games. do games need to be more inclusive when they're mirroring real life? >> of course. it's diversity. it what ken said. this industry is maturing a bit. as it does, we've got to portray across the board, we got to portray everything. but we're seeing that. honestly, as people are more creative, they're bringing more of their real life experiences and there's a certain freedom in that. i just get excited. you got the usual batch of whatever you can imagine games, which will always rake in a lot of funding. but i think the grass roots efforts is starting to influence even the big time publishers at this point. >> there's still some old school fun there, i'll leave you on that note. that wraps things up for our edition of "r.f. daily."

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just as classes were beginning in troutdale, oregon, police received reports of shots fired within the school. >> a gunman entered the school this morning, shot one student. unfortunately that student has died. the gunman was located and the gunman is also deceased. >> we'll be pushing out updates so you have information as we get it and are able to release it. >> right now police are combing through the school room by rim. this morning students were patted down before exiting the building with their hands over their heads the kids were then loaded on to buses and reunited at a near mall with their parents. some kids are still trying to get in touch with their parents. >> i'm glad i missed the bus. my sister is i