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across the front pages all week, as waves of undocumented children are crossing the border. >> look, obviously we came up short. >> the miracle that just happened, this is a miracle from god that just happened. >> today assessing the aftermath from this historic surprise. a spoof republican party and do-nothing congress, and what does it all mean for the mid-terms and beyond. his biggest frustration after yet another school shooting. this time an oregon high school, where a teenager shot and killed a 14-year-old student and injured a teacher. president obama lashes out. >> we're the only society -- we're the only developed country on earth where this happens. and it happens now once a week. and it's a one-day story. there's no place else like this. >> and ready or not, in her interview with nbc news, hillary clinton reveals the one thing that could keep her from running
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in 2016. >> what's against running for president? >> i have been on this high wire of american politics, and then american diplomacy for more than 20 years. i am about to become a grandmother in the fall, which i know is going to change my life. i don't want to be focused on something two years away, i want to be focused on this baby right in front of me. i love my life right now. good day. i'm andrea mitchell in washington where capitol hill is still reverberating after last night's political earthquake, crushing house majority leader eric cantor. newcomer david brat knew his district. eric cantor missing in action. the aftershocks are now being felt across the country from
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midterm candidates to future presidential hopefuls. let's break it down with our panel. luke russert live on capitol hill. white house reporter jackie caans. and congressman john davis. luke, let's start with you first of all. because cantor was reportedly at a starbucks fund-raiser here in washington, not even at his home district in the seventh near richmond on election day. does that encapture the whole problem that he faced, that he was spending too much time on leadership, not enough time on the folks back home? >> sure. and i'll give you my own anecdote, andrea. yesterday at the house gop press leadership conference, i asked eric about it, anytime we tried to talk to his aides about this, they laughed us off and said we were completely crazy. and we ended up drinking that truth serum from them, and it was the wrong truth serum. what you really see are certain
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things coming out now, the fact that he was at starbucks raising money yesterday and not caring about this. the fact that he spent $168,000 on steaks, and david brat spent $200,000 on his entire campaign. while he's out there beating the drum against raising the debt limit at one point and against the grand bargain, he's also going out to facebook and talking in palo alto, he's going to da vo, switzerland. eventually that ends up having this effect, where the district feels he's no longer in it for them, but in it for himself and in it for leadership. interestingly enough last night, i was in richmond for about an hour. i spoke to a few voters. many of them -- they didn't vote and they said to me, we never thought this could happen. it wasn't necessarily a beloved hometown hero here in richmond,
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more of what boehner would be in ohio, where he checks all the necessary boxes. this is a huge shock. anyone who says they saw this coming is completely lying. and i can tell you that as of right now, you said setting up a feeding frenzy here in the house gop conference, watch out. everyone and their mother wants to become house majority leader now, or house majority whip. it will be amazing to see. >> and tom davis, you've been there. you're a former member from virginia. what is the back story here? the fact, perhaps, that his pollster had him up 34 points. i mean, this is sort of -- i don't know, malpractice, political malpractice on every level. >> i think they missed it. i think they knew this would be a closer race than they thought early on. they had a $300,000 independent expenditure. they spent a lot of money going after david brat. they knew there were some problems there. and they lost their chairman which was a cantor ally a couple
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weeks before, where eric was booed. but the larger story here is the difficulty of being a political leader in an unpopular congress, where you have to sit down and make compromises, and pass debt ceilings and produce a work product versus the expectations of the party base which wants people to stand up to president obama. it's very difficult to straddle that. i think most of us thought he would be able to do that, given the financial advantages and the fact that his opponent wasn't backed by the national groups. but there was obviously an eruption back home that he missed. to go on with what luke russert said, while others were going home on weekends and campaigning, cantor was helping to build the republican majority, instead of being back home. and you can take tough votes. we've all had to do that. bud you've got to go back home and face the music sometime.
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i'm afraid he faced it on primary night. >> back home is only 90 miles from washington. jackie, let me play a little bit of that republican convention, when he did get booed off the stage just a couple of weeks ago. >> you know, when i sit here and i listen to mr. brat speak, i hear the inaccuracieinaccuracie. my family's here. [ booing ] we are about a country of free speech, so decency is also part of this. >> jackie, that should have been a warning, a clear warning. also, how big was the immigration issue? the fact that brat labeled him an amnesty supporter, even though he was talking about some rights for the dreamers, 20 years down the road. but that in and of itself in this very southern context was enough to light up the fires.
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>> right. well, you hear those boos, and mr. captor and others could write those off as just, you know, some sort of fringe group. but the fact is that fringe groups often predominate in party primaries, especially on the republican side in this era. the immigration issue was big. on msnbc earlier this morning, mr. brat tried to downplay it a bit. but it was an issue. and in the last weeks of the campaign, mr. cantor was sending out brochures and mailings to his constituents, that focused on that issue, but tried to establish that he was, you know, dead set against, quote unquote, amnesty. everything immigration related gets labeled as amnesty these days. it was upsetting to some of the groups that are trying to push changes, including from the chamber of commerce to latino groups, that he was using this kind of rhetoric, because they saw it as closing the door to
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immigration legislation. but now it's like, you know, his defeat as well closes the door to that in the minds of a lot of people. >> and in fact, chuck todd is joining us now from capitol hill. chuck, dave brat was on with you this morning. let me play a little bit of that with you. >> amnesty at the end with a clear differentiator between myself and eric cantor. it fits into the whole narrative, and it also fits into the narrative that eric just has not been present in the district. and he was out of touch on that one, instead of -- i was door knocking. i know what's on the mind of the folks. >> chuck, i was really struck by what you said last night. i think it was to -- i think it was to rachel maddow. what is the implication for everyone from jeb bush associated with the immigration issue, which he cares deeply, to
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rick perry, to ted cruz for 2016? >> look, that's the thing is that there's a potential populous wildfire on the right with the immigration issue. that's what david brat was trying to say. listen to the language he used, you have business community, you have major agricultural concerns, you have that wall street, you have the chamber, folks who are putting pressure from the sort of business wing of the party, who do want some immigration reform, and do want part of this to get done, and you have where the populist wing of the party is particularly in the more rural parts of the party, or in the southern part of the party. i think that's where you see -- we've known this divide has existed inside the republican party on immigration for at least a decade. let's go back to mccain's initial campaign -- or the second campaign for president in '07 when his primary campaign collapsed, and it collapsed on the issue of immigration. he was able to resuscitate
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himself because nobody else could fill the vacuum. standing up to give in-state tuition to undocumented workers. this is an animating issue to many conservative voters, but particularly in rural and southern parts of this country. so this divide is there. this establishment divides the business community versus where the base is. i think that's why many of these members are going to feel as if, particularly ones with august primaries coming up, there are a whole slew that have august primaries coming up. if you're jeb bush, there's parts of me thinking jeb bush, he may say, you know what, i'm willing to have the fight and take the arrows because i want to rip the band-aid off and have this massive debate. there's part of jeb that i think would think about going in that direction. but it certainly makes 2016 more complicated. >> and briefly, tom davis, what
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about lindsay graham? he supports immigration reform. he won his primary in south carolina last night. >> this is more complex than just immigration reform. lindsay went back to south carolina every weekend. people would see him at picnics and at the fairs. eric's around the country helping other republicans. and he's viewed as part of the leadership, and leadership today is the establishment. and people are mad at the establishment. >> tom davis, jackie, luke, chuck, thank you all so much. chuck's morning interview on "the daily rundown" with david brat, brat learned a lesson for the rest of his political career, all policy issues, domestic and foreign, are now on the table. >> let me ask you about something, a foreign policy question. arming the syrian rebels. would you be in favor of that, with u.s. military helping to arm the moderate -- >> hey, chuck, i thought we were going to chat about the celebratory aspect. i would love to go through all this, but my mind is --
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>> no, i understand that. i want to get a sense -- >> i'm happy to do them, but i just wanted to talk about the victory. and i wanted to thank everybody that worked so hard on my campaign. i'm happy to take policy issues at any time. i just wanted to call out to everybody a thanks today. >> for more republican perspective on eric cantor's stunning defeat, one of a dozen republican congressmen who voted against john boehner for speaker in 2013. thank you very much, congressman. is it now open season on john boehner? if part of the vote against eric cantor as part of the leadership, tom davis made the point he was out traveling across the country helping other members, does that mean that john boehner is also, not in his home district, but as a member of the leadership? >> i think it would be a mistake in washington that the establishment would think it was about one position, one issue. no, this is about a concern among conservatives across the
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country that the republican establishment isn't listening, isn't following through on the conservative commitments. eric cantor just happened to be the one who lost his job because of that. at the end of the day, the house leadership is run by the speaker and his staff. and that's where we need to be directing. i think we need some change. we need a new leadership team. i voted a year and a half ago. i think that's where we should be looking at today. you can change the second or third or fourth person in command, but at the end of the day, the republican establishment in washington, d.c. is not listening to the base roots of the conservatives. it's issue after issue. absolute silence on leadership on those issues. that would be the danger in washington to try to sum it up in one issue. that's what many are trying to do today. >> who would you like to see as speaker? >> i would like to see someone from a red state, someone that is a proven conservative background. >> give me some names. >> there are plenty of names circulating out there.
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there's jeb hencerling, jim jordan. i voted for jim jordan a year and a half ago. we need someone who actually has a proven commitment to conservative principles that doesn't talk about it, and we look at the background of the three current leader, they come from blue states. they certainly don't push for the republican principal plgs that are in our platform. >> would you rule out kevin mccarthy and kathy rogers? >> you're breaking up on that question. i'm sorry? >> you would rule out kevin mccarthy that is right behind in the leadership right now behind cantor? >> again, i think the message should be understood as it's applying to the entire leadership team. at the end of the day, john boehner runs the leadership team, he runs the u.s. house. there's this frustration that they spend more time beating up on conservatives than they do on taking on the president in his radical agenda. here we have a humanitarian crisis precipitated by the president's policies on the
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southern border, and cantor pushing basically the same policy by giving amnesty to young folks. those things you think they're tone deaf in washington, d.c. that energizes me and others in washington, d.c., and across the country that say, you know what, at the end of the day, the people are going to make their decision and they're tired of what's going on in washington, d.c., in both parties. i think that's the message, the d.c., the establishment vetted here today, because there are more primaries here ahead. >> do you want to be majority leader? >> no. i have four kids. this is a tough job. but you know, you sign up for a tough job. as a leader, you've got to be willing to listen. just because you've got the job doesn't mean you know everything. i think we have a bunch of people in washington who think they know so much that just ain't so, to quote reagan. we need a leadership willing to listen, more importantly to the vast overwhelming majority of the republican party that's concerned about the future of our country. they want a discussion about big issues. not these little issues. not about earmarks and what eric
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cantor did for his district. what's the future of the american dream, how are we going to get the economy going, roll back obamacare. those things have been lost in the little arguments here in washington, d.c. >> congressman, thank you so much. >> thank you. and today, defense secretary chuck hagel was on the hill summoned to try to defend the controversial prisoner swap to free bowe bergdahl held cab tiff for five years in afghanistan by the taliban. hagel told members of the house armed services committee that the swap represented the last best opportunity to free bergdahl. but he faced some tough questions why congress was not notified about the deal in advance. and the risk of putting high-level taliban detainees back in action. and he was also questioned why bergdahl still hasn't returned to the united states. >> why hasn't he been returned to the united states? we have seriously wounded soldiers that are returned to the united states almost immediately after they are
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stabilized. you're trying to tell me that he's being held at landstuhl, germany, because of his medical condition? >> congressman, i hope you're not implying anything other than that. >> i'm just asking the question, mr. secretary. >> i'm going to give you an answer. i don't like the implication. >> answer it. >> he's being held there because our medical professionals don't believe he's ready.
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hillary clinton is back, she's on the road where she grew up today, chicago, on book tour. today clinton has former white house chief of staff chicago mayor rahm emanuel doing the q&a with her. nbc's own cynthia mcfadden interviewed clinton earlier this week, including one of the most
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controversial, benghazi. >> if you had one do-over from your four years. >> it would be benghazi. if i could turn the clock back and figured out a way to avoid that, we certainly would have. >> is there anything you personally feel you could have done differently? >> well, you know, in retrospect, if i had upended the way security decisions are made by security professionals, maybe, maybe not. because i'm not a security professional. we set up a system where the people who are both on the ground and with experience back in washington make these decisions. i think that's right. although in this case, the findings were they should have done more. >> cynthia mcfadden joins me now from new york. thanks so much, cynthia. you also asked her about whether she kept notes, a diary and whether she would turn those over to congress, because some of the new investigations, the committees, what was your sense of that? >> it was interesting, andrea. it was written with such specificity, this chapter in particular, a blow-by-blow of
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what happened. she said yes, she kept extensive notes. i asked her if she would turn them over. her answer, they can read all about it in the book. i thought that was a rather bold assertion. i'm sure members of congress did, too. >> you also pressed her on vladimir putin and the sexism of his recent comments. i want to play a little more of that interview. >> he attacked you as a woman in his remarks. >> yes. he's not the first male leader that has engaged in sexism on the public stage. he did. he attacked me because i have raised issues about his leadership. and in particular, about the illegal occupation of crimea. >> so that's a very interesting dynamic. she also has to explain and justify how she read the russians, her attempt at the reset, which was really classically wrong with that reset button and the wrong
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translation there. >> yeah. >> and the fallout from that. she does have a lot to answer for in her state department tenure. >> yeah, she does. i asked her about that. i said, listen, there are certainly many people who feel there was no singular achievement that marked your four years as secretary of state. she gave herself an "a," she said, as secretary of state. so there will be a lot of people that disagree with that as well. the book is very specific in certain areas, and just jumps over others. but 635 pages, she covers a lot of territory. >> and of course, the rollout of this book, it's almost a military operation the way it's been conducted. >> or a political campaign, yes. >> exactly. but it's also interesting she made a mistake in one of her comments talking about how they were flat broke. we do know they had $12 million or more in legal debts when they left the white house, the clintons. quickly, they had terry mcauliffe ensuring their
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mortgage in chappaqua, the $8 million advance from the first big book "living history." so they weren't exactly broke broke. that really didn't connect with average americans. she was trying to fix that again today in chicago with rahm emanuel. >> trying to walk it back again, yeah. >> fascinating stuff. cynthia mcfadden, great to see you. thank you so much. >> good to be with you, andrea. meanwhile, a shocking statistic. there have been at least 74 school shootings, an average of one a week, since the tragedy in newtown. and this was the all too familiar scene outside reynolds high school as we saw yesterday as it was first unfolding, 16 miles outside of portland, oregon. frantic parents waiting, not knowing. the teenager, a student armed with a semiautomatic rifle, shot and killed 14-year-old emilio hoffman, a popular freshman and junior varsity soccer player. a physical education teacher,
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even as immigration reform helps unseat house majority leader eric cantor, one of the factors, the senate panel has now approved a nearly $2 billion request from the white house to handle the influx of undocumented children, the kids crossing the border. mark potter was along the border in mission, texas, yesterday when another group of children arrived from mexico. >> reporter: just before sundown, near mission, texas, three adults and 14 children from el salvador walk across a dam near the rio grande, making their way illegally into the united states. they are thirsty and tired from a long journey. moments after crossing over from mexico, they are spotted by local and u.s. authorities.
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but instead of running, the immigrants walk to one of the police cars. they're all given water, including the youngest member of the group, a little girl. this teenager who arrived with his mom says he and others are playing gang violence in el salvador, and now that he's in the u.s. he feels safe. children in the group say they've come here hoping to reunite with their parents already in the u.s. the mother of one of the kids telling nbc news families pay smugglers $8,000 to $9,000 to escort a child. >> joining me now is congressman gutierrez, chair of the immigration task force, and former member of the house subcommittee on immigration and border security. congressman, thank you very much. >> good to be with you, andrea. >> i'm appalled, you're appalled. this is unaccompanied children coming across the border. >> yeah. >> as long as i have covered politics, there has been a crisis of the drug cartels and violence in central and south
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america, and so it can't just be an increase in violence that is driving these kids across the border. what is increasing the smuggling? >> i think what we have, andrea, is the beginning of -- we're seeing failed states. look, andrea, i went and googled a state in which most people get murdered, the country most people get murdered, honduras, followed quickly by el salvador and guatemala. they're not coming from belize, costa rica, nicaragua, they're coming from countries where there is rampant violence. gangs, where there is violence, where there are drugs. and so first i think i want to say secretary johnson is taking the right approach, a humanitarian approach, that is to say, he's called a level 4 on this thing and said let's bring in fema and take care of them, this is a humanitarian crisis. that's the first thing. but look, it's going to take a bigger, how would i say,
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organizational effort and money. money to make sure that as our state department says, you know, andrea, you and i, we look up on the internet and it says, don't go to honduras, don't go to el salvador. the police will not keep you safe. so they're fleeing the violence. it's getting worse in those countries. the smugglers are understanding there's a lot of profit to be made from this. >> but then when they get here, we're warehousing them, these kids in terrible conditions. what can we do to help them reunite with families? i know that's hard to track down undocumented parents as well. but what can we do for the conditions? i would bet you that we have treated detainees that we used to take, you know, from some of the boat people in guantanamo better than we're treating these children along our own borders, on the mainland of the united
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states. >> it couldn't be further from the truth. so i think when homeland security sees this as a humanitarian crisis and not as an immigration crisis in our country, and they bring in the red cross, and they bring in fema, and they bring in the kinds of resources that we could reunite as many families, but andrea, in the end, the majority of them p don't have families here. and in the piece that you showed, as a segway to our interview, there were adults. the fact is, half of them are girls. it used to be the 17, 18-year-olds unaccompanied minors. now they're 11, 10. the average age is 14. and they're going through torture. they're being raped, they're being murdered along the road. we need to tell them, stop, number one. i mean, responsible people need to say, stop. and we need to give options and we need to coordinate our efforts with the countries they're coming from. because once again, they're even fleeing to neighboring countries like costa rica and panama,
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leaving the violence that is there. it's not that they're coming from all over latin america, they're coming from three particular weak countries in which the -- you know, civil war, civil society is almost nonexistent. it is unsafe and the children are fleeing here. >> let me ask you this. as we criticize other countries. and i understand completely why you are. now we have the defeat of eric cantor, and the interpretation among other incumbent republicans is to be paralyzed on the subject of immigration reform. but this is the end of immigration reform is what everyone's saying, and probably going into the 2016 primary process for republican candidates. >> yeah. andrea, let me go out on a limb with you. it's not. the votes existed yesterday for confidence of immigration reform. we don't need one republican to risk their incumbency.
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there are men and women in the republican party -- look at lindsay graham. not only has he been for immigration reform with the senate bill and put his name on it, he won with nearly 60% of the vote. because he went to his voters and he said, hey, you know something, i don't like illegal immigration. and we want to replace it with a legal immigration system. we want to put safety on our border. we're ready to do that. but we understand that we need to do internal networks here. let's face it, you want illegal immigration to go away? then how are you going to do it when you allow 11 million people continue to live in this country by not fixing the broken immigration system? look, there are dozens of wonderful men and women in the republican party. democrats are ready to work with them. someone asked me the other day, what's the big impediment to immigration reform? i said, democrats have to understand, that republicans are the majority in the house and we have to be ready to accept that they have a view and a
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perspective on immigration that we need to take into consideration. >> congressman, thank you for your passion on this subject. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> we'll talk again soon, i hope. after all the blood and sweat and the tears of the american military effort in iraq, mosul, iraq's second largest city, has fallen to sunni affiliates associated with al qaeda. nuri al maliki's weak shia-led government fled their posts, leaving government buildings, police stations, the airport, even their weapons for the militants. the u.n. estimates 500,000 residents of mosul have already fled the city, three years after the troop withdrawal. violence and increasingly unstable iraq has reached levels not seen since before the u.s.-led invasion. refugees are fleeing across the borders. good job!
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cantor's stunning loss. welcome, shawn. i want to play for you a bit of my conversation earlier with tim, who had this to say about the republican leadership. >> this is about a concern amongst conservatives across the country that the republican establishment isn't listening, isn't following through on the conservative commitments. eric cantor just happened to be the one who lost his job because of that. at the end of the day, the house leadership is run by the speaker and his staff. i think we need some change. i voted a year and a half ago, said we needed a new leadership team. i think that's where we should be looking at today. >> so what about john boehner, what about the republican leadership? are they now all in jeopardy from the rank and file? >> i think john boehner's done a great job as speaker. he'll get reelected easily. i think that's a little -- i'll let the members of the house talk about how they'll handle that. i think with respect to what happened last night, it was one
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district. i think the bigger takeaway on this, and i understand the media frenzy, but let's kind of step back for a moment. >> it's not just the media, sean, there's frenzy on capitol hill among the house republicans. >> no, andrea, about hold on. >> let's look at the house of cards. okay. >> because media is running around putting microphones in their face. let me walk it back for a second. the seventh congressional district of virginia is, and will be, a republican district. that's a fact. we are keeping that seat. there's no question about it. >> no one's arguing that. >> right. and i think david brat ran a great campaign, we look forward to him joining the next congress, congratulations to him. at the end of the day, here's the reality to what's going on, step back, big picture for one minute. the house of representatives is controlled by republicans, and we are going to pick up seats. we are going to grow the majority there. the senate is controlled by the democrats right now.
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we need six seats to take over the majority there. and by all stilts, we're really close to doing that. and in fact, we could do much better. we continue to expand the map in the states like iowa, minnesota, oregon, virginia, new hampshire, et cetera, et cetera. i think that from what everyone talks about, what does this mean for the party, the party is growing and winning. at the end of the day, everybody needs to take a deep breath, step back and realize our party is actually doing very well. we're picking up seats in the house, in the senate. we're doing great with governors -- >> but sean, i wasn't saying the party is in trouble, i'm just saying the party is moving to the right and that the established figures such as eric cantor didn't take care of his own district. he was at starbucks yesterday on election day. >> my point -- i'm sorry. i guess my point was to sort of give big picture context to this. but with respect to you saying
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what happened last night was the party's moving to the right, it's one district. one district. two weeks ago the narrative was, the tea party's dead and the sta establishment has taken over. the reality is, we're doing very good as a party. that you can pick out points no matter where you want. john boehner won his primary with 69%. mitch mcconnell, 50%. john cornyn won his a few weeks ago with well over 55%, whatever it was. but all in all, big picture-wise, the party is on the rise. we're doing great, picking up seats. that can't be denied. >> sean, earlier in the program i pointed out that lindsay graham and boehner are all doing well in their primaries, so we've made all of those points. i'm just saying, something happened last night. and people are taking notice. thank you very much for joining us. >> i agree with you. i agree with you. one district, yes.
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i think david brat ran a great campaign. he talks about the fact he's a proud republican. he campaigned on republican principles. i think your previous guest tom davis made a good point that being in the leadership sometimes is a balancing act, of trying to help grow the party and help elect other members, while at the same time trying to get back. i think sometimes that's a difficult balancing act. and so there's a great case to be made that david brat, which his campaign was largely a campaign on getting back to the base and saying, hey, we need a congressman that's entirely focused on the seventh, i think that's worse exploring. but i think we're reading way too much into this, and is a little bit too far. >> sean spicer, thank you very much, from the republican national committee. >> thanks, andrea. we're learning more about the five american soldiers killed earlier this week in what is believed to be a friendly fire incident. today nbc news has confirmed the identities of four of the five fallen soldiers.
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the political party. congresswoman, thanks for being with us. this is not just internal republican politics. people are angry at congress that many say is a do-nothing congress. >> i think what this message that was sent last night says is that the republican party has been completely swallowed by the tea party. any debate over whether the tea party controls the republican party has ended. when eric cantor, who had the most conservative voting record in the house, in the republican leadership, can't win his own party's nomination because he wasn't conservative enough, then you know they have a serious problem. >> but the national tea party didn't spend a dime there for brat. this was all grass roots. it was conservative and tea party inspired, but there was no money spent. it wasn't a national organization. >> no, but the point is that the principles on which david brat ran are all among the most
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extreme. i mean, he took extreme positions on immigration reform, on health care, on a whole host of issues in which mainstream voters in virginia, the republicans have demonstrated time and again, they're totally out of step with. i mean, what the republicans risk now is becoming a permanent minority. what's clear is barack obama won virginia in 2008 and 2012, with a message like david brat's, being front and center for the republican party. and that victory last night, how do they expect to win virginia in 2016. they won't be able to. and they won't be able to win a host of other states for the same reason. the bottom line is that democrats are focused on expanding the map. we continually are expanding the map. you couldn't name your previous guest, i defy him to name a single state that is currently blue that is hon its way to
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being purple and will eventually be red. i can name arizona, georgia and texas that over the next ten years i predict will go in the opposite direction and eventually be blue. >> let me also talk about the people of this country wanting some action, particularly on immigration, on guns. the polling shows it. >> yes. >> look at president obama's frustration only yesterday. >> our levels of gun violence are off the charts. there's no advance developed country on earth that would put up with this. >> as chuck todd said last night, he's gone from, you know, a sense of hope to, i did try. the vice president did try. nobody seems to come up with a solution to this problem. >> i just came from the appropriations committee in the house on which the republicans defeated an amendment that simply would have said, we're not going to spend federal funds tearing american children from
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their undocumented parents when there is no risk of their parents remaining in this country. to our safety and security. they couldn't even bring themselves to allow families to stay together. where the children are american. i mean, this is -- the bottom line result of last night is it further underscores how obstructionists the republicans intend to be. they're making sure there are more opportunities for people to join the middle class. the republicans are committed to creating fewer opportunities. and their entire party has been swallowed by the tea party. and there is no more establishment. every republican in congress has been pulled so far to the right, now they'll be quaking in their boots. there are 20 primaries left. and it will be interesting to see how the republicans in the house's voting record shakes out, given that many of them are facing tea party opposition, in which they could end up on the
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jackie is back with us. let's talk about the next 24 hours. enough with eric cantor. let's talk about george herbert walker bush. he turns 90 tomorrow. the feelings about bush 41 really have grown and grown in the last few decades. >> right. you know, even during his son's administration, he was virtually, you know, whitewashed out of the picture. to hear people talk it went from ronald reagan to george w. bush. it proves if you live long enough, history can be revised or look kindly on you as his son likes to say. but i think history will not look as kindly on his son as it
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has on the father, and happy birthday to him. >> happy birthday to bush 41. we just saw pictures of him with barbara bush at kennebunkport with jenna. thank you very much. tomorrow on the show, rhode island senator jack reed from armed services. remember, follow the show online, on facebook and twitter on andrea mitchell reports. >> great show, andrea. a lot of big news today. the surprising consequences of that capitol hill grilling that secretary hagel just got about the bergdahl transfer. and we've got chris matthews weighing in on eric cantor's stunning upset in virginia. all of it, of course, begging the question, remember eric cantor? vo: once upon a time
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yes, eric cantor has been defeated by the brat pack. no, not that brat pack. yes, that one. in a stunning primary last night, tea party candidate dave brat upset house majority leader eric cantor. headlines around the old dominion state were big and bold. here, for instance, is the lynchberg news. cantor ousted. also the culpepper star exponent, brat shocks cantor. cantor's hometown front page, the richmond "times" dispatch with cantor out. immigration reform was a major issue that brat hit cantor on. but it's cantor's time outside of his district that many are taking note of. here, for instance, is what brat himself told our chuck todd this morning. >> amnesty at the end with a clear differentiator between myself and eric carton, but it