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>> power vacuum, top member of leadership, dethroned. >> any man who must say i am the king is no true king. >> top house republicans are scrambling to fill the leadership void. >> hard to overstate the intense political maneuving the conservative tea party wing. >> red state conservatives wanting one of their own. >> the tail is wagging the dog. >> a time for unity. >> why do we pretend kings hold all of the power? >> there's a danger, moving the party to the right. >> for conservatives they've been frustrated a long time. >> the tea party argument going back to 2009. >> this, i think, should go to the top. ching out the whole team. >> eric cantor was the best for them. >> nancy pelosi reportedly viewing cantor's fall with almost glee. >> a time for unity. >> republicans being eaten alive by their own caucus. >> dems' new strategy, watch the
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gop implode. >> winter is coming. >> it has begun, a fevered, high stakes competition, in which passionate camps of like-mined fans join together to root for their favorites and cheer the brutal crushing of their rivals. it's not the world cup but the battle for the control of the republican party. in the house, this means seven days of jockeying for position as republicans prepare to pick their replacement for majority leader eric cantor, one week from today. as of right now, the race is between texas congressman pete sessions and majority whip kevin mccarthy, the man cantor himself yesterday endorsed as his successor. that can leave a more chaotic scramble to fill mccarthy's job with a contest between stitsman of indiana, roscom and steve scalise, three considered tea party accolades which brings us to the broader struggle for hearts and minds of the gop. after a year of chatter about the tea party's increasingly
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diluted brew, david brat surprise victory has tea partiers nationwide feeling officially giddy. creates a wave of energy that's infectious, read an e-mail to supporters from the president of the washington-based tea party group freedom works for america. subject line, you're winning. you know who's losing? liberal establishment politician. it's hard to say that with a straight face. eric cantor, crushed in his republican primary because of his vote to fully fund obamacare. that is according to an e-mail from new york gop congressional kand george demos. if the tea party has its ways, eric cantor will not be the last liberal establishment politician to go down. fund-raising e-mail from tennessee state representative dzhokh dzhokhjo car, warns, lamar, you're next. joining me now, democratic
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congressman from maryland's eighth congressional district, chris van hollen. great to see you. especially in these turbulent times. i would like read a statement to you, and get your opinion, agree or disagree, colorado democratic chairman rick polasio. it's nice to see infighting from the opposition, do you agree with that? >> well, i guess the short answer is, it is good for democrats in the upcoming election to the extent that the american public realizes what's happening here. and what's happening here is, as you indicated, the tea party is driving the national republican party part somewhere farther to the right. we -- in the house we didn't think you could get any farther to the right. we didn't think that the speaker would be even more dependent on the tea party for support. but that's the signal that this sent. if the american public
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recognizes that the house of representatives has become the captive of a very vocal and small, narrow band of american politics, then i think the american public will say they've had enough of that. so i don't think -- it's not just good for the democrats, i think if the country recognizes it's time to put an end to the no compromise under any circumstances for the public good attitude, then there could be an upside here. >> congressman, the democratic leader, nancy pelosi, asked about eric cantor's defeat today and she said, i have as much sympathy for mr. cantor as he would have for me -- as he would want me to have for him or he would have for me. dare i say there's a little bit of -- >> that's possible, but just to take a little broader view on this, alex, i think the problem here now in terms of moving forward on the big issues,
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whether the economy or immigration reform, a republican leader, eric cantor who whispered the idea of trying to reach agreement on these big issue issues was thrown out because of the tea party backlash. what that means is that republicans here in the house are going to be even less willing than they were before to try and make the tough decisions that moved the country forward. so, you know, that's the other side of the story here. if the american public wakes up to this problem, and responds at the polls by saying we've had enough of the tea party folks, that obviously would be a good result for the country. >> let me ask you, a big question is who takes cantor's place. what we're hearing is it's likely to kevin mccarthy. people say kevin mccarthy isn't that different than eric cantor. is he a tea party insurgent? no. is he a moderate? does he broker compromise?
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not so much, but in terms of measurable difference with the republican caucus it doesn't feel like it would be night and day, if you will. do you think the democratic caucus can work better with kevin mccarthy than any other candidate? >> i don't want to get any of the candidates in more or less trouble here. but let me just say this, alex, i know that the folks who were part of defeating eric cantor do not think that the current leadership, including kevin mccarthy, is anything but the status quo. i heard an interview last night with one of the tea party activists part of the big upset victory for brat in the virginia race, and what she was saying is that, you've got to throw out the whole bunch. you've got to throw out boehner and the current leadership, which includes kevin mccarthy. so i think it's fair to say that however this works out, the house republican caucus will be
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even less governor earnable tomorrow than it was before. again, that's not good for those of white house want to get something done. about could have a silver leaning if the public recognizes what's happening and responds. >> congressman chris van hollen, thanks for your time. >> thank you. joining me, senior editor at the new republic and editorial director at "huffington post" media group, howard feinman. how much damage can the tea party do in six weeks, their operating time frame? >> oh, tons. nothing was going to happen on the hill anyway. >> right. >> you should start with that. but if it's possible to do less than nothing, and they will, and they may figure out a way how to do it. i thought was amusing and instructive that congressman chris van hollen didn't dare say anything at all nice about kevin mccarthy, lest he ruin mccarthy's shakier than i think
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realize chances of winning this. by the way, in the last few hours the tea party people have said, let's not have the election next week. let's put it off. basically let's give us, meaning the tea party people, more time to organize to defeat kevin mccarthy and defeat his candidate for whip as well. so we're just beginning here to watch the infighting and the lack of progress on anything. i think that's why the stock market went down more than 100 points today. they're look at the fact we're facing more budget crisis is, deadlock. less than nothing between now and the elections in 2014. >> brian, in the opening to the segment i read an e-mail or fund-raising e-mail from george demo and that calls eric cantor a liberal establishment politician. why not call him a kenyan socialist or a muslim while they're at it? it's like the attacks are no longer in any way based in reality. but i got to ask you, how
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much -- from outside of washington, in terms of the other races like thad cochran in mississippi and lamar alexander, it feels like the establishment is pouring money into races and it will still be uphill battle for the tea party to get their guys elected or past the primaries. >> if there's one productive outcome, it will be -- allow groups that are sort of kind of funding and supporting candidates to raise more money. i think that the regret that they must have is that this election happened so late in the primary process with the big deal races they hoped to influence behind them. with that being the case, i think the electoral beyond cantor's race is probably limited. as howard mentioned there wasn't much happening on the hill anyway. the legislative impact is limit. if kevin mccarthy gets the house majority leader position, the leadership impact will be limited. in the end, the whole thing
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might end up being a bust with unexception-the election the house has to fund the government again. >> which is heavy lift for this house. >> if there's they're smart, they'll kick the funding part the election for six weeks or whatever it is and deal with it once the results are in. but if the shakeup is severe or leaves people with a lot of hurt feelings or the desire to push the envelope, you can see a conflagration around the election that boehner would like to avoid. >> how should republican leadership play this? i thought it was bold for eric cantor to name a successor in his press conference and say i like kevin mccarthy. the way the base has acted tell them to take their vitamins, do something and they do the opposite. >> well, first of all, right now the phrase republican leadership is a contradiction in terms. >> oxymoron. >> you used schadenfreude. >> trying to keep the $5 words to a minimum today.
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>> so there isn't any leadership. and speaker boehner doesn't dare endorse anybody. first of all, he's weak. secondly, it would be counterproduct in, i think, were he to say i want kevin mccarthy. he's being squarefcareful about. what is the strategy? the tea party people may well have enough juice in the house to force a shutdown situation. and if you know these people, if you talk to them, interviewing them in the hallways, you know that shutting the government down is what they want to do. it's consistent with their theory of things, they're not here to make deals. and this is why eric cantor didn't understand he thought he could play it both ways, insider and outsider. talking to the people they don't want to deal. every time he did something, offered a deal they got more suspicious of him, that's the way it is. that's the way it's going be through election day. >> the train party
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cannibalization, at this moment, is what is most shocking to me. you forgot that these guys are part of the same platform, the same tribe, if you will. given the level of vitriol bandied back and forth. >> well, i think that one of the things that's hard to map, you know, what happened to eric cantor in that fphenomenon, the tea party versus establishment phenomenon, the elections are sort of won and lost on the basis of existing relationships and financial quid pro quo and things like that. it's hard to say kevin mccarthy is unnatural fit for this because a lot of the guys owe their seats to him. so, you know, you have a lot of rage and vitriol but in the end none of the guys have the juice that he has and he's emerged as the natural successor to cantor. >> i hear an establishment pick coming from you, brian, that's what i'm reading. >> that's about right. >> brian, howard, thank you guys for your time.
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josefina h hussein. the militants are aligned with the group islamic state of iraq and syria, or isis, but some militants are baathist military commanders from hussein's era. al maliki tried unsuccessfully to declare a state of emergency and a curfew imposed on baghdad and its surrounding citians the "wall street journal" is reporting that iran is now sending its own forces to fight icy in iraq. the white house rejected a last -- a request last month from maliki to consider carrying out air strikes. speaking from the oval office, obama said iraq would need assist tans but offered little clarity as to what it might be. >> i don't rule out anything because we do have a stake in making sure that these jihadists are not getting a permanent foothold in either iraq or syria, for that matter.
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>> nbc's chief foreign correspondent, richard engel, reports from on the ground in iraq. >> the iraqi government is losing control of large parts of northern and central iraq. the radicals are from an al qaeda you've shot, many are the same insurgents u.s. troops battled for years. now they're allied with militants from syria, creating a single front. why is this happening? sunnis ruled iraq for 13 centuries until the u.s. invasion toppled hussein, usherring in a shiite regime. the sunnis want their country back. they hate the shiite government, which is excluded them from power. and there are no u.s. troops around anymore to stop them. >> the americans may have left iraq, but the war goes on. joining me now, "new york times" white house correspondent, peter baker and u.s. national security editor for "the guardian"
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spencer ackerman. peter, did the white house expect this? folks focused on the crisis in syria said it could spill over and that's exactly what it seems to have done. is the white house prepared? is there a strategy? >> well, look, they knew obviously this is a threat in iraq, it's been going on for a number of months. i think they, like everybody, were surprised by sort of the swiftness of this week's particular developments, that it moved so rapidly, powerfully and close to baghdad on a quick timetable. you heard the president say, as you played the tape, he's not ruling anything out. his spokesman made clear he's ruling out ground troops. when he says he's not ruling out, what he's talking about is the possibility of the air strikes or some sort of drone operation along the lines that had been rejected in the past. a sign of how much things have changed in a short amount of time. >> spencer, how close are we to an all-sought sectarian war in iraq? >> it looks like it happened days ago, if not weeks ago,
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months ago, and a debate whether or not it was stopped or tamped down. this is looking like the disaster that people had been worried about since 2003, islamic militants would end up not overrunning significant amounts of the country but iranian proxies would be swept in and a war of each against all. >> this comes at a moment -- bowe bergdahl rekindled the debate what we should be doing in afghanistan and the white house has taken a clear position, we are winding it down, we want all of our men out. this would seem to complicate the question of whether that's the right move, given the fact iraq was supposed to be settled and done and seems destabilized as it has since 2003. >> the question for the timetable of withdrawing from afghanistan could result in a similar type of renewed warfare after we leave. president obama, in this case,
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managed to arrange an agreement with afghanistan that both the current run-off candidates have said they'll sign in which american troops will stay a little bit beyond what the president has called the end of combat. that's different than iraq. but you know, by 2016, we could be in the same situation where american troops are gone and the question becomes, what happens once we are. what is our responsibility at that point to them? a lot of different points of view about that. >> spencer, the think progress has a chart that is terrifying and terrifyingly complex and shows interlinkages between ice s isis, the assad government. there it is the u.n. windingness is impossible. that said, isis is a group so brutal that al qaeda basically excommunicated them, we were talking about this before. if your -- in your analysis, should the administration, could the administration, have been doing more to isolate them?
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>> it seems like it's in retrospect easy to say yes. all numbers of steps that the administration rejected consistently involved whether to army rival factions in syria, whether to get more deeply involved with covert operations there. for -- at each stage what look likes very good reasons, very good fears getting the u.s. once again bogged back down, in civil wars, regional wars that it barely understands and if it understands, it understands them belatedly, nevertheless contributed to what we see today. looks like a nonzero chance na the maliki government may not survive the week, particularly unless the iranian government, of all things, comes to save it. >> save the day. >> and added on top of all of these ironies, there's this really widely ranging, unopened ended scope in law from 2001 that authorized war nearly on
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the globe at any time with any one remotely affiliated with al qaeda that now does not like it applies to the jihadist army that's about to overrun iraq because, as you mentioned, al qaeda excommunicated isis. what is the u.s. to do? >> peter, you know, john boehner today was asked about the president -- held a press conference and said, asked about what the president's doing on iraq and he said, quote, taking a nap. that's cole comfort for folks who remember the people that got the country into the war if the first place were republicans, bush-cheney, days of fire about the bush-cheney era and then transof the wars into iraq and afghanistan and quagmire that is the engagement in the middle east. how much does this part of the world weigh on the president's mind when he thinks about his legacy? >> i think it does. look, he wants his legacy to be he ended the wars in iraq and infantry or ended the american involvement in them if we go
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back in the form of air strikes or something like that, that's sort of reversing what he hoped to accomplish. you know, still 2 1/2 years out until the end. there's a lot that can happen between now and then. this is not the direction he wanted to be going in that region and it keeps sucking him back in. >> to wrap it up really fast, one thing people don't understand, isis as "the new york times" reports, members are better paid, better trained and armed than the national armies of syria and iraq. how did that happen? >> i mean, we reported yesterday from inside iraq that 800 isis militants cost 30,000 iraqi soldiers to tail and run away. there's video coming out of isis flying helicopters. it looks like there's combat air sport for isis on the ground. it seems -- i don't want to play fake on the ground expert there but it seems like their capabilities are much greater
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governor oops returned to center taj. rick perry did not forget what he was saying mid sentence. he revealed his stupidity intentionally. asked at an event in san francisco, whether he thought homosexuality was a disorder, perry compared it alcoholism. >> i may have the genetic coding that i'm inclined to be an alcoholism but i have the desire not do that. and i look at the homosexual
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issue as the same way the "san francisco chronicle" reported the comment drew a murmer of disbelief as should be expected in the year 2014. not so in texas. this weekend, the texas republican party adopted a party platform which included support for reparative therapy, the widely discredited practice that purports to change sexual orientation. the platform stated that homosexuality must not be presented as an acceptable alternative lifestyle in public policy, not family be redefined to include homosexual couples. translation, marriage equality may be on its way to national acceptance but governor oops and his brethren intend to remain bigoted outliers for as long as possible. ahead, as the humanitarian crisis grows on the board somewhere republicans refuse to address immigration reform, one thing is becoming clear, the ball is in the president's court. texas congressman castro and
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immigration and the tens of thousands of unaccompanied child migrants crossing the border to the united states that debate moved from the rio grande to the nation's capital. this afternoon, homeland security secretary jay johnson delivered a statement on what he called a problem of humanitarian proportions. >> i saw this situation vividly for myself on may 11th, which happens to have been mother's day, when i visited mcallen station processing center. i approached a 10-year-old girl and asked her, where's your mother? she responded, i don't have a mother, i'm looking for my father in the united states. i returned to washington the next day determined to do something about this situation. >> at a hearing yesterday on capitol hill, deportation policy
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was front and center, when a handful of families directly influenced by deportations stood up in the audience, providing a human face in the debate over the country's broken immigration system. nowhere has the failure of that system been more evident on the u.s.-mexico border, children languishing for days and weeks in the facilities in arizona and south texas, conditions improving for the migrants there, they have access to food, showers and medical facilities but that has not been enough for some people. hours ago, senators john mccain and jeff flake called on u.s. customs and border officials to permit media access to the nogales processing center, gathering information is in the public's interest. passing comprehensive immigration reform would be in the public's issue but the gop has been conspig cg cue lusly quiet. the 20th district, whjoaquin
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castro and john stanton. there's a lot of talk about what eric cantor's defeat portends for immigration reform. but for those of us who remember debate two weeks ago, where did the house republicans going to do anything on immigration reform anyway this year? >> it was very unlikely, you know. after july 31st, the congress is only in session 26 days for last 5 months of the year. so, this issue was probably not going to anywhere. after his defeat, because republicans are perceiving it as having been about immigration, it's certainly not going anywhere. >> lindsey graham won his primary, right, and he seems to be -- i don't know if he's the outlier or the bellwether. fat thak gr fact that graham was able to say immigration and reform the day before his primary would seem to signal certain parts of the gop
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are fine with the idea of reform. >> republican voters are willing to go for immigration reform, in the districts it's more difficult, they're carved in a way that they get very, very conservative, very quickly. so there is that. but i think the house members look at eric cantor and they are looking at this and saying to themselves, not this year, i don't think any of them thought they were going to do it this year, even in the next congress, they're not going want to touch this. they feel etsit's a third rail issue for them. >> given the stalemate on capitol hill, what is your expectation in the white house and revised rules they're expected to hand down? >> well, you know, i think that the white house should move forward and take action. the house of representatives specifically has shown that it's not willing to take action on comprehensive immigration reform, which overwhelming majority of americans support and want the congress to move on, and so you know, if the congress is not going to take action, the president should do everything that he can in his executive power to do something
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on immigration. >> a follow-up to that, what would be appropriate timetable for that action? >> well, you know, as soon as possible, but certainly this summer. >> john, in terms of the situation on the border, what has been interesting to me is that both sides, pro reform advocates, look at that and say it's a colossal failure, we've got to do something about immigration policy and conservatives say, this why we can't have amnesty. when you look at that situation in particular, do you think it aids in particular either side of the debate? >> i don't know. i think the politics are still strange to watch, frankly. bright bart one of the outlets that brought this to the attention of the public. so conservatives clearly are finding an interest in it, some are saying this is why we can't have amnesty. some believe it's a humanitarian crisis. i think the broader problem, though, in the border something that neither -- it doesn't help either side any more than it is
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an easy prop they'll point to. but they'll go back and retrench and fight each other again. >> congressman castro, this happening in your home state of texas. between 2010, 7,000 to 8,000 unaccompanied minors in a year, in 2014 there are 90,000. it's a staggering number of children. what would you like to see happen to resolve this issue? >> well, in the first thing is, i saw the pictures along with everyone else of the inhumane conditions in the processing centers. i think the secretary, as he mentioned, should go about working on that. you know, if we saw americans being kept in that condition in any other country, this -- our nation would be in an uproar about it, so we shouldn't keep folks that way. even if they're here undocumented. the second thing is, we've got to do something about passing comprehensive immigration reform. the congress can't just sit back and act like it's the president's job or they have no responsibility other than complaining on this issue. and then, third, the president and the secretary should compete
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their deportation review and take swift action because congress has demonstrated either it's unable to or unwilling to. >> john, the deportation question, you've been on the other side of the border, great reporting on the deportees, what happens your expectation as far as how aggressive the white house can be on the issue of deportations, given the highly partisan climate around immigration reform? >> they could be very, very aggressive. i expect they are, they'll do it towards the end of the summer, politically advantageous to democrats in the election. you know, i do think that regardless, something does need to be done about deportations whether mexico or latin america. we're sending people into very, very bad conditions and i think as a country, that is something we have to struggle with. >> congressman castro, buzzfeed's john stanton, thank you both. >> thank you. coming up -- it is a beautiful day for a beautiful game. as world cup action finally
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off in brazil, a month-long saga of epic global rivalries of vuvuzelas, a festival of the debate over geopolitics and international affairs and of course, a really good excuse to drink beer in the afternoon. >> reporter: it's called the beautiful game. and no other sport in the world comes close to rivaling the pop lirty of soccer, football to the rest of the globe. fans and players, the world cup, held once every four years, the holy grail, the most famous trophy in sport given to the last team standing in a month-long, 64-match tournament, involves 32 nations and broadcast in every territory in the world. estimated 3.2 billion people, or 46% of the earth's population watch the 2010 world cup in south africa. that means that at any given moment, more people have probably talking or thinking about soccer than any other subject.
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>> beyond the united states, football is the great global conversation. as far as social phenomena concerned, there is nothing that compares with football as a universal language. >> reporter: the site of this year's contest is the nation with greatest football tradition 0 of them all, brazil. home to pele, arguably the most famous player in the history of the game. >> a special moment that the world cup is being held in the spiritual home of soccer. >> reporter: since uruguay won the first cup, brazil has won a record five time as head of italy's four titles, germany's three, and uruguay and argentina who each claim two. people of all races, nationalities and social classes root for their heroes on the world's biggest stage. international prestige is on the line. >> players wait their whole
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lives at their peak to get picked for the national team. the fans feel the same way. will their team make it? will their favorite player make it? a lost energy and anticipation going into the world cup. >> brazil is associated with flare. germany is synonymous with efficiency and physicality. the italians are defensive. the u.s. is athletic, physical, fit, but without world-class skills. >> reporter: this year in brazil, the talk of the two greatest talents, ar ten tina and portugal. both will seek to join soccer immortals. for one month traditional world order will be turned upside down and global leaders like the u.s. and russia yield to footballing powerhouses including brazil, argentina, spain. yet the beauty of the game lies in the fact that on any day, a
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small nation can shock the world. >> the magic of the world cup is that, first of all, anything can happen. >> every now and again you'll get an african nation beating some mighty nation such as italy or argentina. and it's fantastic. there is a joy experienced by the people of small country x collectively. it's barely imaginable and i rejoice in that exuberance, exultation, that feeling. >> you can love different teams. you can love a cameroon or a nigeria or chile. people can love different countries. it's really okay. you don't have to pick. >> the unpredictability of the word cup is what leads to moments completely unforgettable and completely compelling. >> north korea beating in italy. >> when america upset mighty england in 1950. >> reporter: from the head butt
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in 2006 final -- >> weird to see, to see a guy lose his mind in front of the whole world. >> reporter: to the hand of god in 1986. >> i was there, in the stadium, behind the goal. it was -- it was a great, great world cup moment. >> reporter: the world cup will be passionately and endlessly debated by fans in every language and corner of the globe, transcending the sport itself which, on some level, is the whole point of the beautiful game. >> it is the great unifier. i've seen it so many times around the world, people may be bitterly divided on matters of religion, race, ideology, national historically accumulated resentments. but you bring football into the equation, a kind of truce can be createded. >> after the break, actor, football fanatic, world champion will be here to talk about the beauty of the beautiful game. (mother vo) when i was pregnant
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>> reporter: world cup has finally arrived its feesher has reached all wait from the international space station to the far corners of the comedy universe. >> i shoot the ball too hard, goalkeepers are afraid. plus, i'm not allowed to wear shorts because my legs are too muscular. beckham would get jealous. >> joining me, member of the smash hit series "30 rock," soccer enthusiast, champion, juda freeland. >> it's a good world cup. thanks for having me here. >> we have you at a desk, your leg are too muscular. >> good architecture, good planning, good thinking ahead. as a soccer player, that's what you've got do, think quickly.
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>> talk about soccer. it's interesting, 46% of the globe watched the 2010 world cup. >> yeah in. >> in america, this is not america's game. i wonder, if your perspective and analysis, do you think the rest of the world likes the fact this is something we're not good at? >> yes, they do actually. i do stand-up shows and when i do shows in europe, first they think we're bad at it, and we're not nearly as bad as they think we are because they're happy we're bad. the world views us as a way too dominant country. they're happy there's something we're not good at. >> we think we're not good at it. we think we're worse than we are. >> this team's going to do very well. >> who are you rooting for, and can you in the game, in a series like this, a contest, a sports spectacle, can you root for more than one team? >> of course you company you can root for whoever you want. i'm rooting for usa, croatia and a few other teams. >> is that -- >> world champion in croatia.
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>> you are a world champion as well. >> the world champion. i'm banned from fifa. my bones have too much density, if someone kicks me in the shin, their foot could die. banned from soccer. you have croatia versus brazil, opening game of the tournament. brazil has scored two goals but the score's 1-1. >> how that is. >> scored their own goal. brazil accidentally kicked the ball in their own net. >> what do you expect from the game? >> i tweeted it out, i said it's 1-1, croatia's going to score first. so far i'm correct. >> the world champion title is very much -- >> hoping croatia pulls it out. >> favorite for the entire world cup. >> usa. >> you want and think that the united states can? >> i want them to win. i think that they have a good shot of getting to the quarters or semis and they can go all the waying i hope they do. they've built a strong team.
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five american germans on the show, five of the players -- on the team. >> on the team. >> sorry. the -- >> the usa show. >> the usa show. anyways, there's five german-americans, these are sons of american military guys who are stationed in germany and they're like raised in germany. >> ringers on the team. >> something good about american imperialism. it's made us a better team. players from all over the world on our team. we are a world team. >> let me ask you about your world cup watching habits. >> yeah. >> talking about them before the segment began. give us a description of what the world cup -- >> i take it seriously. >> clearly. >> this is serious. so, i'm usually alone, at my apartment, watching the tv, and i'll sometimes call my dad or my brother, and i'm just basically yelling the whole time, dissecting the game. and if i watch with anyone, they really got to know the game. >> right. >> should have played the game, if they haven't played the game
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they've got to know the game. >> ever kicked anyone out for not knowing enough? >> some experiences where it's horrible. if someone starts texting while watching a game, get out of here. if you start asking dumb questions, leave. sorry. it's not time to educate you. not during the game. >> last question, it's a tough one, you may -- i don't know whether you are answer this, given your position as world champion, which is the better noisemaker, the view viuvuzela, >> well, the fact that it's not as loud as the view view za lel, i'm going to pick that one. it's too loud. >> annoying looking. that's an annoying looking -- >> if you're a soccer fan, you don't need accessories to make yourself a better fan. you should be screaming your lungs out. >> what you'll be doing in approximately 20 seconds. >> yes. >> awesome to see you. thank you for your time and
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thoughts. world champion, that is all for us. we're going to the bar and watch the world cup. see you back here tomorrow 4:00 p.m. eastern. "the ed show" next. >> good evening, welcome to "the ed show" live from new york. i'm michael eric dyson in for ed schultz, let's get to work. >> you see these negative motivations that are really driving politics today. >> oh no! congress' current golden age of cooperation, it's over. >> this polarization. >> annual polar plunge. >> as a master of fact. >> literally -- >> a primal scream by conservatives. >> yes, yes, yes! >> who are just angry about everything. >>
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