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happy friday, i'm joy reid. this is "the reid report." we start with the uprising in iraq. >> turmoil raging in iraq. >> the sectarian divides are exploding. >> i think the national security team should be released. >> militants seizing control of two more cities overnight. >> the militants have their sights set on baghdad. >> they would kill americans in a heartbeat. >> i think i would put david petraeus on a plane to baghdad right now. >> we will not be sending u.s. troops back into combat in iraq. >> so what can or should the u.s. do to help with the violence and do americans have
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any appetite for another foreign interventi intervention? also, army sergeant beau berg dal is back on u.s. soil. and at the world cup, brazilians are protesting the host nation's inequalities. president obama offered his latest daytime on whether the u.s. will intervene in the war in iraq. it now has a group of al qaeda within about 100 miles of shiite-led baghdad. the president reiterated he is taking troops off of the table and they must reform the brutal policies that helped cite the crisis in the first place. >> in the absence of this type of political effort, short-term
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military action including any assistance we might provide won't succeed. this should be a wake up call. >> enter the iranians whose supreme leader said today that shiites should take up arms against isis which is sunni. isis has swiftly taken over key cities in the north of iraq and in syria. in part, because of disorganization and improper training of the iraqi army. richard engle filed this report. >> the president says he wants several more days to consider any possible military action and he wants it to be part of a larger political frame work where maliki is forced to see the error in his ways. the problem is, a lot of iraqis
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including the government are not sure they have several more days. the militants, isis, are about 40 miles from baghdad. the mosques are issues public calls for a collection of weapons, the religious authority said there should be a war of self-defense to save the capital. there might not be time if you ask a lot of iraqis. joy? >> we should know the senior cleric is the iraq senior cleric, not irans. so peter, you had from president an indication that we are going to take a wait and see approach waiting to see what iraq will do
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to get the tensions under control on his own. is the president channelling what leaders on the hill want to hear, or is there a faction that wants mccain to do something more militarily. >> that's a good question. we're hearing a lot of anxietan. we have heard from some republicans, heavily critical of the president, we heard from john boehner, speaker of the house saying it is long past time for the president so lay out a plan for how we can reverse the momentum and spread of terrorism in iraq and a region that is critical to u.s. interests. we also heard from chairman of the house foreign affairs committee ed royce. he said we need to be hitting these columns of terrorists more marching on baghdad with drones right now.
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the president cautioned against any expectation of immediate action that as he said, the decisions will be made in the days ahead. so i think the white house is right with his teams waiting to hear back what they actively can do, and the president used a keyword in those remarks saying the consideration of selective military action. the white house recognizes in a war weary nation, they would need something that is a light footprint, talking about the end of wars in iraq and afghanistan. "time" magazines international editor, i saw you reacting about the comments of drone strikes and the like. >> the idea that they move in columns like a military organization is ridiculous.
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that's now how they operate. to put things in context, by our calculation. isis moved farther distance, more territory, quicker than the united states military did than at the start of the invasion in 2003. it took them much longer to cover that same distance. and that tells you several things. keep in mind, that tells you that these guys move on some very light, they move very quickly, they do not move in conventional ways, and more importantly they're moving in territory that is, if not friendly, then certainly not unfrequently. they're not encountering a lot of resistance, and not from local people. now -- >> is that out of fear, maybe not unfriendly, but could it be counter resistance out of fear? >> there is a little of that, but it is because the local
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people are mostly sunni and they're so disenfranchised and unhappy with the shiite led government. they see these guys as doing things that are challenging the government that does not serve their interests. there is a certain aspect of that. once they get close to baghdad, they are entering territory with a large presence. we have to assume the best communities are protected from baghdad. >> and you get to a point, i think that is important, and that is the fault of the iraq government in all of this. you had a severe crack down on members of the iraqi side who are sunni, and the u.s. tried to
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encourage the government to relax that. maliki has not done that. >> definitely, look. this situation is so cat troughic there is enough blame to go around, the government has been incredibly partisan. very much, more importantly, anti-sunni. there is a sense they are taking revenge for 1400 years of oppression from the sunnis, that's not going to play well with them. and so, they were already armed and they were already a big part of the insurgency against the u.s. and now they're fighting against their own. the government has completely failed. that having been said, this is not a time to be lectures maliki on what he ought to be doing.
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baghdad is in danger, large parts of the country have been taken over. this is like your house it on fire and someone is lecturing you about not using matches. can the u.s. do it? i doubt they can. >> that's the question, the united states spent a lot of lives and treasure training an army that could defend the country. there is a lot of commentary that says we cannot supply the will. >> no, to do air strikes, you need intelligence. and this government is not reliable, you cannot rely on the mal maliki government or the military. you could be bombing, you could get information to bomb a target, basically the political rivals of maliki. and then we're in afghanistan all over again, bombing wedding
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parties and killing innocent citizens and the anger now directed the a the maliki government turns against the united states. there are no quick fixes here, no easy solutions. whatever solutions might have existed should have begun a year ago. at this point, the house is on fire. it is an unfortunate situation, and there is not a lot we can do to put out that fire. saying to them you should not have been playing with matches is not the right message at this time. >> not a very positive mejage, but realistic. thank you for being here. >> coming up, bowe bergdahl is back in the u.s. and we're hearing his own words and letters he wrote home while in it captivity. and people are seeing these images from brazil in addition to the world cup soccer matches. oh my god! look.
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we're less than two hours away from a news conference at an army medical accecenter in t. it is our first update since finding out that bowe bergdahl has been returned to the u.s. he is continuing to recuperate. it is an exclusive today giving us the first possible insights into his state of mind before and during his capture. quoting two letters we have not authenticat authenticated, they were allegedly written by bergdahl as a captive. it seems to anticipate an
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investigation into him leaving his post. saying if the letter makes it to the u.s., tell those involved in the investigation that there are more sides to the investigation and wait for all sides to woman in. andrea mitchell asked john mccain if me had a message for sergeant bergdahl. >> my message is welcome home, my message is that the proper investigation will take place and we should not make any judgments until that investigation takes place. >> david is an investigative reporter, and co-author of "arope and a prayer." and our other guest just wrote about the alleged letters from bowe bergdahl. kimberly, one of the letters
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purported to be from march 23rd saying leadership was lacking if not nonexistent. the conditions look to be bad and getting worse for those the ones risking their lives from attack. what do these letters tell us about his state of mind and if he deserted his post. >> there are two letters, and we are having to try to extrapolate what he must have been thinking at the time. was he writing them under duress? almost absolutely. the taliban might have been telling him what to write. you can see it also as a message to his parents. he didn't know if he would get out of captivity, and he wanted them to know there were reasons he left his base. reasons he defined as a lack of confidence in his leadership and situations for u.s. groups and afghan groups. now the letters themselves are
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written in different script a year apart. that's hard to explain why. the only thing that gives me confidence in them is i spoke to several u.s. officials who talked with the bergdahl's family who got these letters from the red cross, they say there was things in both them them like one of them bowe signed with a paw print, an animal print, which was characteristic for him to use and they said these are from him. now did someone tell him to write that conditions were bad because the taliban wanted that message out there? we'll have to wait for him to speak to find out. >> and what do you make of the letters? this is not someone that was tree to write whatever he wanted when he wanted. what do you make of these letters? >> i think they're authentic, but i wrote one of these myself,
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and there was parts that the taliban dictated to me. they had me lie and say was in the mountains, they made ransom demands and all kinds of crazy things. he is trying to communicate with his family. you don't know if you will survive and you want to give them peace if you don't come back, but we need to wait for a full explanation from bergdahl. >> does it strike you that they would allow him to receive messages from the family. what is the purpose of that? i guess it's hard to have hope, but what do you make of him receiving mess ans as well? >> basically the taliban trusted no one. they did trust the international
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red cross. and frankly i applaud them because they allowed taliban prisoners, some of whom were my guards later on, to communicate with their families. they let the message go through. and in terms of bowe and me, they let you communicate because they want you to have hope. they want you to not kill yourself. >> is there an indication in the letters that you have obtained that will be part of the investigation? this would clearly be key evidence. how reliable could it be since we don't know the fns under which they were written, in terms of investigation into his disappearance? >> i would say not likely. they will be taken into account as something he wrote while under awesome conditions. he was kept in a cage, a basement, away from light. he said he was kept hooded much
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of the time. so these are written in that context. the defense officials said the one thing they agree with bergdahl on is they want everyone to wait for the evidence to come in. >> one of the other things that struck me is some of the writing and spells was poor and strange, what did you make of that? >> when i first saw them, i didn't think they were real. i thought they were written by someone writing english has a second language. but i read the letters from the bergdahl family back to bowe. creative spelling is a family trait. he was home schooled and they didn't concentrate on grammar and proper spelling. they also seem to concentrate on subjects like god, philosophy, nature, weather. that's some of the stuff i
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looked at and said okay, this might be real. >> david, thethat bergdahl now has to go through, does it surprise you it has taken him so long to want to community with his family. >> no, and i was held one tenth of the time that he was. there was three american contractors kidnapped in columbia and held for five years. they were brought through the same medical facility and they had a difficult time. they saw their families, it took several days, and then it was only visits for 15 minutes. it's been a very long time and we'll see how he comes out of it. >> thanks to both of you for being here. >> a update now on the botched execution in oklahoma. a preliminary report shows that the team failed to set a
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being that it's friday the 13th and a full moon is coming, it seems fitting that we will now discuss a haunting. mainly the stunning loss of eric cantor. the fallout would be the death of immigration reform. now it seems that fig leaf which the gop planned to hide behind is unraveling. a new poll taking by a
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republican pollster says a fewer than a quarter of the people who voted for david brat sited immigration as the reason. and if he does indeed replace him, it could be incrementally less dead rather than more dead. mccarthy easter tire says he feels that congress will do something to fix immigration. if he becomes majority leader, he would clearly be in a position that make that happen. so for people that saw it has a final nail in the coffin, overthrowing eric cantor could be not much of a victory at all. in fact, a ranking of levels of conservative says it will be
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slightly less conservative if mccarthy is the number two guy. joining me now is ed o' keeffe. is there a sense that mccarthy is inevitable. >> yes, if only because he has the apperatis to make it happen. they make sure that ducks will fall into a row and support will be there next week. just a few hours ago raul l labrador, one of the more foe value members of the class of 2010 says that he is getting into the race now that others are not saying there news to be a conservative alternative. whether or not he can win, probably very unlikely he could,
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but on principal he feels there needs to be more of a true conservative in the race. >> yes, he issued a statement, i'll read a little bit of it. he said we must restore the proper role for government to create space for free markets. republicans must work to take these issues on head on. i'm running because i want to create a vision of growth and opportunity. the same thing we hear a lot of times. but is the more important thing here for the conservative win of the party that thought they vanquished the status quo, just to have somebody run so they don't feel all they got is a guy that hanged out with arnold schwarzenegger and condoleezza rice. >> i don't know if they're buddies or not, but that is the case. we long thought if someone in
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the house of republican caucus was going to try to channel mccarthy for the majority leader spot, it would be a protest vote, a way for the 40 or so members for the hell no caucus to say this is not our guy, this is not the one we want. maybe a lower spot on the leadership rank. >> i mean, ed, i'm wondering how demoralizing this is for that part of the caucus that is so be devilled john boehner. the one opportunity they have for a protest vote is raul labrad labrador, who is the one republican apparently on earth that is still saying wait and don't rush to judgment against bowe bergdahl. is that a protest vote? they really look like they cannot stop the status quo,
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being the aultraconservatives. >> there may be inevitability in the mccarthy win, but then the in your opinion three slot, the whip position, is still hope. i any you will start to see more emergency among conservatives. that's why you see guys like the republican from louisiana who heads the study committee, a big conservative caucus, guys like marlin stetson, also thinking about at least throwing his hat into the ring for the whip position. the idea being look we we would be in charge of votes and we could graduate up the ranks if john boehner decided in the next few months or years to retire. we could cultivate relationships even more and move into the majority leader or speaker slot at that point. it's not entirely over for them. a week is a long time in politics, things could change.
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at this point he appears to be the guy. there is still a possibility they could pull out the number three slot and be happy with that. >> it strikes me how mall this turns out to be. the revolution that seems to be happening. now they're fieging over who will be the whip. that is where the vote lies. maybe it will be better than kevin mccarthy. if that's all these groups wind up getting, will this calm the far-right caucus? >> yes, i think having the number three person in the house republican hierarchy would be a foot in the door for house conservatives, and i think it will before a valuable position. a little trouble getting these votes together, but i think it is probably the hardest job in politics. having machine that can work
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with the he will no caucus, in charge of counting votes, would be valuable to them. then the revolution is trying to get parliamentary positions in the house of representatives. that might be a let down for them. thank you so much, both of you, have a great weekend. >> great to be with you, take care. general motors is recalling more caring for problems with ignition switches president the latest is more than half a million chevrolet camaros. gm says a driver's knee bumping the key can cause the engine to stall, knocking out power steering and brakes. this camaro is one of four recalls. [announcer] if your dog can dream it,
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. at least a billion people are expected to watch the 2014 world cup at some time on television. the run up to the games has been anything but beautiful. brazil faced off with croatia yesterday and people were elated. police all fired tear gas at people after another of a string of demonstrations after the price tag being paid for bringing the world cup to brazil. it is in a place that brazilians call the country of soccer. six of ten say that hosting the world cup is bad for their
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country. the outrage over the billions of dollars being spent for the lavish preparations, and brazilians content with poor schools, hospitals, and the crumbling infrastructure. the brazilian national team is favored to win this year for the sixth time, but could the people of brazil be the biggest losers? bill neely joins us now. >> this is not how it was meant to be. they have been looking for this since 1950, the last time it was in brazil. the spiritual home of football and there was a sour mood here. yesterday, brazil won so it was
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lightened, but the first two days of the world cup have listen marked by strife and protests. it doesn't look like it's going to stop because the people who are angry are not going to stop protesting because the world cup has started. they think the world cup is the cause of this. $11.5 billion that should have been spent on infrastructure, but in fact a lot of it -- >> i think we might have lost bill neely's audio. we will go back to bobby who is with me again. that is the crux of what people are angry about. people are saying look, this infrastructure has not gone into the neighborhoods and towns where people are suffering. it's going to half built and unfinished stadiums.
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>> it speaks to raised expectations. it has been for the last ten years, a developing economy, one that is on the way up. what happens is that expectations are higher. the last time the world cup was going to brazil it was a poor country. it's one thing that spend that kind of money when you are holding it in a poor country where people are just grateful for the jobs raeted. now the expectations are greater. they are held to much higher standards. they're not as fine with just spectacles. they want to see better schools, roads, and infrastructure, and that speaks to brazil's development. it's a positive thing, it's not nice people are being beaten in the streets, but the fact that they feel that they can speak up hike this is a good thing. it shows that brazil is a free
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society where people can express themselves and that brazil is a country where people are holding their government to a higher standard. >> when you look at some of the examples, you have eight men die in the 12 stadiums. it is now ten of the word's 20 costliest soccer arenas. it was $900 million in brasilia and there is no professional team there, and there is a question if they have goten far enough to develop infrastructure that they would be ready for the 16 olympics. >> olympics usually stay in one city and it will be rio, and we'll see how they hold up in the world cup.
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when i was there before, it was in terrible shape. so this is a test for if brazil will be able to pull off the olympics which are, in some ways, a much more complicated event. brazil was hoping that this would be their coming out party. this would be their way of showing the world that we have entered the high table. it's not going quite as well as all of that. and that will be terribly embarrassi embarrassing. the president will be concerned about all of the things they're now seeing. >> right, you said this was supposed to be a showcase, but a piece of graffiti is showing how
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they feel. >> yes, it's easier to see when the glass is half empty, but if you draw anything from this, it's great that the graffiti can even exist. >> and one caveat and the push back is if you look the percentage of spending, what is being spent on putting together the world cup i think amounts to about 3% and the 97% is what's being spent by the government for what it comes to education and health, but that doesn't mean anything if you're hungry. >> right, and if you want more and you feel like you can demand more. it's another thing when you feel empowered to hold the government responsibility. in india, there was a
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commonwealth dame that involve former colonies of britain, there was a lot of protests then, too. perhaps not as severe as this. same thing, india has a lot of mouths to feed, is this really the best time to spend so much money on something like the world games? you're seeing this in the emerging economies. people want more. >> i agree with you, it's a good thing they're commanding more. thank you for being here twice today. appreciate it. coming up next on "read between the lines" the supreme court rules against a big organization. it also ruled in favor of a few billionaires. (mother vo) when i was pregnant...
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>> this weeking with something amading happens. the roberts court ruled against a big corporation and they very rarely rule against them. the court decided unanimously that there is one right that corporations don't have the right to have. they can't read or trick people on their labels. but before you celebrate, you'll need to know the ruling against the coca-cola company, that makes a drink that is only 3% pomegranate juices. coca-cola was being sued by a los angeles couple, stewart and
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lynda resneyk. they say they were losing customers because they were being tricked. they usually say that when consumers read fruit juice, they can be tricked most of the time. they said don't make me feel bad, because i thought this was pomegranate juice. in addition to the name pomegranate blue berry, it displays blueberries and raspberries in front of a pomegranate. it opens a wide range of product labels to challenge.
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until thursday, many maintained that sellers of bev reasonables and food products could not be sued. the fda often allowed food in factors to put less than the real thing into the bottle than they have on the bottom. now they will be able to pursue their case against coca-cola, a bilge win for them. you can beat a corporation when heard by the roberts supreme court if you're also a billionaire with a corporation, that is a person. that wraps things up for "the reid report." i will see you on monday. make sure to visit us online, and now "the cycle" is on next. happy friday. >> happy friday to you, yea for america. we're going to talk about yet another rough interview for hillary clinton. does she just not like the
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develops from here to texas and to baghdad. there is a group so extreme that even al qaeda didn't want to be associated with it. they are mobilizing to topple the capital. we have more from on the ground there. our expert is a cia guy that says time may have already run out. our p.o.w. is back in the free world this afternoon, czbergdah is back in the u.s. and he will be updated on his condition. you'll see the briefing here with alex wagner. first, let's see sarah with more on what we're expecting to hear from the army now that sergeant bergdahl is back on home turf. >> yes, good afternoon. we're expecting to hear from the u.s. army commanding general for