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develops from here to texas and to baghdad. there is a group so extreme that even al qaeda didn't want to be associated with it. they are mobilizing to topple the capital. we have more from on the ground there. our expert is a cia guy that says time may have already run out. our p.o.w. is back in the free world this afternoon, czbergdah is back in the u.s. and he will be updated on his condition. you'll see the briefing here with alex wagner. first, let's see sarah with more on what we're expecting to hear from the army now that sergeant bergdahl is back on home turf. >> yes, good afternoon. we're expecting to hear from the u.s. army commanding general for the south as well as a
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psychologist and an admitting physician. we're going to hear new details about his adjustment back to life in the u.s. in the coming hour. this is the first temperature in a multistage reintegration process. the first few steps were started in germany. sergeant bergdahl arrived early this morning to very little fanfare in san antonio. part of the third step involves a reunion with his parents. they released a statement earlier to know that he is overjoyed to be back in the united states. they will not make their travel plans public at this point. there is no time table how long he will be here, we're told it's a day by day process and his health and wellbeing are the
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number one priority. hopefully we'll now how he is doing in the coming hour. >> we turn now to the complete chaos in iraq where militants are talking the largest cities. iraqi soldiers are fleeing their post. here is richard. >> the sunnis are fighting and trying to march on baghdad. many of the iraqis are not sure they have several more days. isis are about 40 miles from baghdad. neighborhoods are blocked off, mosks are issuing public calls for people to come collect their weapons. the religious authority, the shiite religious authority say there should be a war of self
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defense to save the capital. >> and in the meantime, the militants that we just mentioned still owe nearly half a billion dollars. the iraqi government is begging theintervene. >> no one wants to see terrorists gain a foothold in iraq and no one will benefit from seeing them descend into chaos. the u.s. will do their part, but it's up to the iraqis as a sovereign nation to solve their own problems. our next guest saying he warned the white house years ago that this would happen. he is a senior fellow with the
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brookings institute. ken, this feels like it came out of nowhere. there have been warning signs, you warned the obama administration years ago this was coming. did they not listen or not take you seriously? >> yeah, the administration had a different narrative about iraq. a different view of what was going to happen there. myself and a number of people were basing our warnings on not just iraq, but lots of civil wars just like this. i think if you look at the history of the civil wars, it was obviously this was the course they wanted to go in. they wanted to think about iraq in a different way. but i think you're right that we have to concentrate on the problem that we have now. >> ken, luke russert hear in washington. one thing i found fascinating is
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the degree of which this is sunni versus shiite and how they're so fed up with maliki that portion os of saddam's old army is joining the isis. how significant is that? they have significant training and they know the country inside and out. >> you put your finger on the critical thing going on here. we can't think about this just being isis. they have invaded iraq and it has nothing to do with iraqi politics. as you said, they're now joining up with all of these other militias in iraq. it speaks to the alienation of a community as a result of
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maliki's treatment of them in the last two, three, or four years. it's why we're going to deal with the problem, solve the situation, pull iraq out of the civil war, it can't be just about military operations and bombing stuff. the fundamental problem is political and we have to deal with that and that is harder to deal with than the military. >> ken, susan ochs in here for crystal. iraq has really start todd become a significant oil producer there now in the region. they're number two behind saudi arabia. do we need to think about the global economic implications here? >> absolutely. we know the price of oil has gone up, they get very jittery when there instability. if you look at the agency projections out into the future and they're looking at
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relatively low oil prices, they said very clearly those projections were most reliant on increasing iraqi oil production, even more than increasing north american shale production. it's a good thing that iraq will not be expanding it's oil production. that being the case, we could see a very significant rise in oil prices, and every is i thinkle american post war recessions that been proceeded by an increase in oil prices. >> i'm glad you said, ken, that the answer here is not just about bombing. part of the reason that iraq is so messy is because of military things we did and did not do in the recent past. some of this is on our hands, so i wonder is the answer really
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more u.s. intervention? >> it's a great point. maliki has to change his way of doing things or help the iraqis bring about a new political leadership that will disturb the powers so all ethnic groups are frightened of another prime minister like maliki. i think the most useful piece of it is that the iraqis are desperate for it. i think the president put it the right way. if they want our military support, the price for it is they have to reform their politics. if they don't, there's no point in giving them that military system, the problems will not abate. >> thank you, up next, too much hillary too soon? it's friday the 13th and there
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back now in the place for politics, hillary clinton continues to make news on her ten day nation wide book tour. first it was her claims that she and bill were, quote, dead broke after leaving the white house. then comes a test why i exchange on npr about her evolution on marriage equality and if it was politically -- >> you know, someone is else
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first, terri, someone is always out front and thank goodness they are, but that doesn't mean that those that join later in being publicly supportive or privately supportive are any less committed. you could not have the sweep of marriage equality across the country if no one changed their mind and thank goodness so much of us have. >> so that's one for you changed your mind. >> i have to say i think you are very persistent, but you are playing with my words and playing with what is such a important issue. >> i just want to clarify. >> no, i don't think you are, i think you're trying to say that i use todd be opposed and now i'm in favor and i did it for political reasons, and that's flat wrong. so that's what i feel like you're implying, i want to repudiate it.
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i have a strong record, i'm proud of what i have done and the progress we're making. >> let's face it, president obama would kill for a 52% favorability rating right now. that's down 18 points from a year and a half ago. jonathan has been writing about her fading popularity. he is joining us now from the white house where it is hot and mug why i. he is part of the sweating fraternity on camera, you are excused for anything that happens. i want to ask you here, interesting week, hillary clinton launches the book, it is the first time she has been put in the public view in a long time, what is the reasoning behind this shaky rollout? is the rusty? and how has the eric cantor news in iraq made this the third or fourth biggest story of the
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week? >> a couple things there, luke, she is now out in public being interviewed for the first time in a long time. it is someone not used to being questioned in the last year and a half my anyone that was no the paying to have her in the room. i think that's one issue. i think that have been helpful to her here, hillary clinton was having a bad week on monday, and by wednesday, much more serious than political victories or losses or media wins and losses, you have what's going on in it iraq right now. >> speaking of iraq, she is running on her foreign policy credentials and parently on her tenure, let's look at a statement she made yesterday. >> i thought it was a regional problem. i could not have predicted the extent to which isis could be
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effective in seizing cities in iraq and trying to erase boundaries to create an islamic state. >> if she is saying she could not have predicted this, and we have other experts saying they have been warning her about this, will this come back to aunt her? >> i think on a lot of foreign policy issues we see an evolution happening. we see what happened in 2006, 2008, when we pulled out, and now. i think it's a danger for anyone involved in foreign policy and policy making to talk about what's going on at a particular moment that they may have to go back and change their view or revise what happened. on iraq, in her book, she says that she didn't call it a mistake, she should have, but she didn't refrain from doing that because of political expediency.
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sounds like she didn't do it because of political expediency. it will be interesting to see how many other issues that was raised on. >> i think she seems to regard the media as the enemy, if anyone deserved a charm, and when she feels like she is out to get her, things really go awry. hillary has to learn to pretend that she doesn't think the media is the enemy. >> national public radio is not where you expect people to get into a pitched fight. but it is, you know, i think there are a lot of interviewers in. the move to catch her if they can in contradictions, the spotlight is on them, everyone was reviewing diane sawyer's
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opening interview, and i think that's going to continue. if hillary clinton wants to be president of the united states she has to do a better job at doing it without taking so much offense. it doesn't sound good, the public doesn't take it well. she seems to be so upset about some of these things. >> yeah, chris christie was letting loose on jimmy fallon, and of course he took the opportunity to ask him about a run in 2016, here is what he had to say. hypothetically you run for president, hypothetically hillary clinton runs for president, do you think you could beat here? >> hypothetically? you bet.
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[ cheers and applause ] >> in a dance off -- >> that's what i was talking about, what were you talking about? >> jonathan, bridge gate is very much overshadowed any chris christie narrative, but he is one of the most talented politicians out there and he has not been charged with anything yet. if it comes down to dancing in 2016, he will dominate. >> jonathan, what's your take on this dancing, but also on how concerned hillary should be if he can make it through a primary. >> he is more adept on his feet. luke, i challenge you to a dance off any day you want. >> i have my money on john. >> thank you. >> i will teach you how to
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dougie. >> chris christie is extraordinarily likable. there is a new poll out last night, chris christie is the closest competitor to hillary clinton right now. trailing her by seven points with a 3.1% margin of error. so seven points back is not that much. so chris christie, despite bridge gate, he matches up welcome paired to the other republicans. >> and who would be a fun candidate to cover. thank you for joining the program, you stay cool, my friend. two beautiful kids, ace and i don't know the other one, but god love them. abb abbey, i heart you waded to the office today in new york, but i
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city. it will be here in time for the evening commute. so we're keeping a close eye on new york city and the suburbs. we will finally dry out tomorrow for your saturday. humidity takes a break. chicago looking fantastic. beautiful in the southwest los angeles to san francisco. enjoy, your saturday. the father's day forecast, picture perfect, beach and barbecue weather. again without that humidity. watching for severe weather in the midwest, chicago getting in on some of that. great before for that, hot and dry in texas, and mostly sunny all of the way to the west coast. i think most of us will be happy with this forecast. tens of thousands of kids will be away from their dads and thaer entire families. these are kids who crossed the
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border without their parents. the level at which it's happening is skyrocketing by more than 1,000%. some of the 11 million undocumented immigrants were so young that they didn't find out until later in life they found out they were not legal citizens. >> me and my family are here undocumented, do you know what that means? >> yeah. >> i'm an undocumented citizen of this country. >> so, i'm undocumented. >> i could not afford to pay for my school, i became undocumented. >> when i was in high school, that's when i learned i didn't have a social security number and that i was undocumented. >> okay. >> rocsi diaz, an "entertainment
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tonight" host was the director for this film. they put a face and a human touch on the talk about human immigration. >> we all have stories. we all have come here without knowing at a young age that we were not documented citizens. i think it brings a different perspective to what each individual has gone through just to be here in the united states and how we have a right to be here as well. >> rocsi, i really enjoyed the film, i thought it was very moving. your characters, they were quite cosmopolitan. they seemed to be open minded, have you thought about doing it and having an undocumented person come out to a
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conservative town and convince them that it needs to be moved forward in washington. >> if if could have been an hour long, you could have seen that. there was some disgruntled people that when they told their stories, it was not the best response. also an understanding response as well. if you would have been there while i was shooting this, and the cast that we had, i think it was a phenomenal cast, i think we showed that you can never judge a book by it's cover. the people that we chose to come out with their story, i'm proud of who we have, but i can show you the uncut raw footage. >> rocsi, first of all, happy to see you, proud of you. proud to see how you're moving up in your career, moving on to directing, and it's a very powerful piece. part of what is so powerful is the fear and spiritual pain that
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these folks who are undocumented are in when they share this news with a stranger. not someone from i.c.e., but just a stranger, and they're welling up with emotion. what are they afraid of. >> they afraid of being taken away from what they know, their families, or being ripped apart. at any moment, everything they have here in the united states can be gone. some of the young kids that we spoke to that were undocumented citizens were afraid of being returned to a country that they have no idea of the language or the surroundings and have no ties to where they were born. i was an immigrant coming to the united states. and i remember the process that my mother went through to, for us to get our citizenship, and being able to have the rights and freedoms as everybody else here in the united states.
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so it really, really touched home for me. i'm glad awas able to do something like this in i'm grant heritage month. >> is there one that in particular really resonated with you and moved you? >> one of the young ladies that we had tell her story, she had an interesting store are where her mother was on the way to the hospital to give birth to her, and she didn't make it to the hospital, she gave birth to her on the border, so she was never documented in mexico or in the united states, she is basically a citizen of nowhere, no birth certificate, no nothing. he doesn't even know if her name or birthday are real. i always imagined not having some type of paperwork, but i can't imagine not even having a birth certificate. >> regardless of how you feel about how we should move forward
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the political climate right now is very polarized and passionate. how do you think your show contributes to the american political climate? >> who cares, i'm just trying to make a buck. when was that my manifesto. i want to help people know what is going on in in the news but don't because they have a kid, lives, a job. it's better if you watch the news and then get your humor also knowing the news. like they say in college read the book and the cliffnotes, so as long as i am cliff notes, i'm going to try to do it the best i can. >> you put liberals and conservatives together and they often times have a difficult
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time talking. >> they talk over or past each other. it's not like politically incorrect where they used to yell. we try to avoid that. but it is true that they don't really hear each other. there is not a lot of common belief. there would be something about global warming and we admit there is something, and once the republicans went to "i can't hear you" it's a hoax, it's made up, whatever they're saying, so scientists can get funding, then how can you even solve a problem if you can't agree there is one. >> there is so many issues where we don't seem to agree on the terminology of the facts. >> rehwe had a term that means e
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president obama agrees with you you go back on what you believe. you started at comedy central, then nbc, now you're on paid cable. >> three network, 22 years, i have been in this dressing room since '96, that's gangster. >> are the rules different from basic cable, network, and cable? >> the time is different. when i was on abc, we could not talk about pot. unless, i mean we did all of the time, of course, i was on pot, but we could not talk about it. they were very strict, you have to have somebody on the other
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side to say it's very bad. you can't recommend it for children, i have never done that. children ruin adult things. okay, it was amazing the way, you know we went from that to of course anyone can make a pot joke. one of the biggest fights is i wanted to do a sketch called harry pot head when harry potter first came out. and it it was too outrageous. people think i have a great deal more freedom on hbo then i had on abc. i have more, but abc let me say just about anything i wanted, pot was the biggest issue. and i got fired for it eventually, but now i don't have sponsors that can pull out. >> tv is in your blood, right,
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your dad, bill senior was at abc on radio. >> news is in my blood, he was a news man. never on tv, but he was a news man. that is absolutely in my blood. >> known for his tirades about richard nixon? >> yes, he was the classic irish-american democratic. he was in his heaven in the early '60s, john f. kennedy was in the white house. pope john, he liked the liberal pope. i hated church and what saved me eventually was my father didn't like pope paul, and he deny like the conservative pope came in and he was like i'm quitting church and i was like whatever, man, it's all good as long as we're not going to church. >> what would he say about realtime? >> he would love it, fist rst o
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all, i'm his kid. he could not see any bad in his kids. i once came home, it was january, college, i was a new pot smoker. my friend and i were out smoking pot in the car and it was about ten below zero. we pulled in with all of the windows rolled down to air up the car, and we forgot, and so we pulled up and it was like all of the windows were rolled down, so he said why are the windows down? and i said he far theed, and he just said okay. so r is this this good for amert bill maher is taking a roll.
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>> we could flip a district, but there is only about half a dozen districts that are even flipble. we're trying to shine a light on this problem. that the american people when you poll them give congress a faif rablt rating somet fav favorability rating sometimes in the single digits. but 90% are reelected. the only way you leave office is if you die or take a picture of your penis. there was so many people out there that were so dissatisfied with their representation but people deserve better, but pause of jerimanderring.
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people don't always understand the policies, they don't like obama care because his name is in it. the republicans cheat, they fool people, voter repression, they're cheaters. >> which candidate do you want to see become the next president? >> i was a competeian, i would like to see, i don't know, sarah palin or rand paul. the race i think would be interesting is hillary and rand paul, rand paul, if he wasn't half crazy, i really like part of him that's not crass. he could still millennial votes. she good on like let's wrap up the empire america, he's good on internal responsibility and safety from prying eyes in the government, he could make it interesting. >> we could very well see that. >> thanks, man.
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>> that was our car. i'm going to shoot them in the face -- >> what are you doing? don't leave me here alope. >> go on, climb around. >> this is so scarey. >> you got it. are you good? >> yeah. >> just walk now, okay? >> okay. that was channing tatum and jonah hill as the fumbling cops from "21 jumpstreet" in the follow up film "22 jump street." with the number movie season nearly halfway over, we decided to check in with our next guest on the hits and misses still to come. matt singer joins us now. one of the things i have not seen is "maleficent" but what else should we be looking for?
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>> the big movie on the horizon is "dawn of the planet of the apes." the apes have now risen and something is dawning. what i like, going back to the original movie in 1968, they are not just spectacles, but they have ideas too, they're about something. the original writer loved to talk about society in science fiction. and they talk about race, class, and issues. and the last movie carried that forward in a fun way and i'm hoping the next one will as well. >> let's talk about some of the surprises "the fault in our stars," it has done incredibly well. this is an adorable story and everyone is saying it's so real.
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it's about a 17-year-old girl with thyroid cancer, a love story, and it did better than many people expected. >> there have been some surprises. to me the biggest surprise was "the amazing spiderman 2," and i was expecting it to be very good, but i was expecting -- it's hard to say it did poor ri, it's hard to say anything that made $700 million worldwide did poorly, but that's the lowest amount that any spiderman film made. they're trending downwards. >> there is a lot more comes, if you're fatigued now, you're going to get very fatigued in the next few years. >> i'm not a big summer movie guy, i think they're always
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overblown, i don't think they're always that good and i think the money could do better in an impoverished to the theater, especially in the summer, because it's so lovely outside, i want to be one with nature, is there one specific film that should get me into a dark room with 100 strangers that i don't know? >> now it's getting creepy. >> first, you shouldn't go outside that much. it's bad for your skin. that's a good reason to go to the theater, it's nice and dark, they will protect you. for someone like me, that's always very important. in terms of other movies, if you are fatigued by the big movies, a smaller one i'm looking forward to is "what if." it stars daniel radcliffe and if i had to sum it up, it would be sort of when harry potter met sally. and it is kind of like "when harry met sally." this couple meets and kind of hit it off, but she's in a relationship already. so they decide -- >> always that way.
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>> so they decide to be friends. it is kind of that "when harry met sally" about can men and women be friends. it premiered at the toronto film festival and got great reviews. so i'm looking forward to that one. >> i will go see it. i like him. i think he's maturing quite well from harry potter days. >> when harry potter met sally is probably one of the best pitches i had heard in a long time. i want to talk about the best movie of the year so far. i think you agree. "grand budapest hotel" a sweet bon-bon that's fun and smart. do we have it yet? another wes anderson gem. all right. let's roll it. >> by order of the commissioner of police, i hereby place you under arrest for the murder of madam. >> i knew there was something fishy . we never got the cause of death.
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she's been murdered and you think i did it. >> wes anderson just knows how to make fun, sweet, smart little movies. >> absolutely. i agree, it is my favorite movie of the year so far. you know, it's hard to get a sense from 15 seconds of a movie, but what i love about it is it's about this kind of lost time, this place in europe that's kind of faded and you look at it, it doesn't look like "dawn of the planet of the apes" and in a way it's almost about this kind of movie making that not too many people do anymore but wes anderson does. it's sort of a tribute to this kind of lost kind of style of movie making that was a little more mature, for adults but still playful and fun and absolutely fantastic. it comes out on dvd next tuesday. if you missed it in the theater, now's the time to catch up. >> got to check it out. >> thanks a lot, matt. up next, a little item in the "new york times" that made toure face palm. ♪
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time for part two of my unplanned series, silly things i read in the "new york times." this time we examine a recent article called "is it possible to be a male feminist." the second sentence asks does he even exist. these are absurd questions and leading ones if you ask whether something exists, then the debate is strongly slanted toward the answer being no, because if you even knew of its existence, then you wouldn't ask. i have never seen a snow leopard with my own eyes, but i know they exist because i have the google. so i would never ask do they exist. certainly not out loud. google a little and you find
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male feminist.com or you find these awesome high school seniors who were so moved by their feminism class that they posted a video about their feminism. >> opened my eyes to just so much in the world. >> i have been able to change into action. if i see something i don't like, i'm not afraid to speak up. i will address that. >> or you find this recent rant by comic chris geddard. >> when guys are like me, i'm like hot girls keep us down, there is no sadder corner of the internet. like you want to get into clubs, you want to get like is that what you're aiming for? because sure, a pretty girl will get into a club before you do but you know what else a hot girl has to deal with? $6 less an hour. >> male feminists are so prevalent and their existence so easily quantifiable that that should have been a one-word article. yes. a far more interesting and important question is should
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there be male feminist? the article references the idea that male feminism is akin to men dreaming about saving women and thus, another version of mysogeny. at that point in the article i face palmed so hard i knocked my xwhas chair back on the floor behind me. the idea cannot and should not proceed solely with members of that group and it never does. there have long been white people fighting for racial justice and straight people advocating for gay rights. at the first women's rights convention, 32 of the 100 signers of the declaration of sentiments were men. this is because many people understand the oppression of some contributes to the oppression of many. in a world where patriarchy designates women's roles as lesser, men are less able to get help for depression because that's a women's problem. the decreased earning potential of our wives and mothers puts
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pressure on us. but let's not argue that men should be feminists because of its value to men. men should be feminist -- excuse me, many men are feminists, because we know female empowerment is not a threat. because we know supporting women is the right thing to do. and because we know that equality is just. that does it for "the cycle." "now with alex wagner" starts right now. a harrowing tale of captivity turns into a very complicated homecoming. it's friday, june 13th. this is "now." >> back on american soil. >> sergeant bowe bergdahl. >> just got back to the united states. he arrived here in the early morning hours to no fanfare and was whisked away to the hospital. the army says he will continue to receive medical treatment and debriefings. >> letters purportedly from his
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time in captivity describe his struggle to maintain his mental capacity. >> was he writing these letters under duress? almost absolutely. >> they let you communicate with your family because they want you to have hope. >> some of bergdahl's fellow former soldiers portrayed him as a deserter. >> none of us know what's going on in his head at the time. >> the real question is not whether or not he's going to get sent away to leavenworth but what kind of discharge will he receive. >> i think we ought to hold our peace until we find what the facts are. he will receive an honorable discharge or get something under less than honorable conditions. right now, we are awaiting a press conference at the brook army medical center in san antonio where bowe bergdahl arrived overnight, returning to the u.s. after nearly five years as a prisoner of the taliban. he touched down in texas in the early morng
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