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usa! >> that's pretty good. >> that is very good. unbelievable. good morning. it's tuesday, june the 17th, and welcome to the millions of new soccer fans out there. >> oh, yeah. there's a few here. a few in my house too. with us on set, "morning joe" contributor john heilemann and msnbc visit iing us and nyc professor and also msnbc political analyst eugene robinson. >> usa, usa! >> white house correspondent for the associated press, julie pace is with us as well. >> is that what your house looked like yesterday afternoon? >> i heard some things happening.

>> you scream? >> yes. i actually didn't really understand but now i do. i get it. this is really big. >> this is big! >> this is big. >> do you guys watch? >> soccer is not that complicated of a sport. it's really complicated. >> you put the ball in the back of the net! >> look. that was 38 seconds in. and, of course, ghana came back later and really dominated about 85 minutes of this match. we scored in the first minute. and then ghana game and tied it and it looked bad for us. a header by a guy who hob ridiculed for some time, had a horrific few games, few matches but the header goes in 86 minutes in. nobody saw it coming. again, we did great the first 38 seconds or so of the match. and then we had no offensive scheme, we had no plan, no

nothing. ghana dominated the entire match. we scored at the beginning but then we scored at the end! to advance. >> you know, joe scarborough, a must win game for the usa given how tough the first round is for them. they had to win this game. >> it's called the group of death and for good on reason. gene robinson, of course, i know i was following you on twitter. i saw you were following the game. >> oh, yeah. >> there was no way we were expected to beat ghana who ma beaten us the past two world cups and no way we were to beat portugal and germany to get out of group play but yesterday, amazing things happened with this match. and portugal having a meltdown yesterday and their best defender is not going to be there. we suddenly just have to draw against portugal on sunday and we're through! >> we're in. >> but we got to do a little better, you know?

this was a great ganelme and gr win but a little worried about the injury. but ghana dominated most of the game. for us i guess about the set pieces. that corner kick. we are good at that. and we better be really good at it when we play portugal. >> we were beaten and bruised yesterday. broken noses. >> you got to say, although all of that is true about ghana dominating those 80 minutes, this team was tough on defense. the guy was on goal for 80 minutes. the u.s. hung tough. >> howard and the goal is great. >> tim howard was great. great goalie. >> i think this is the fifth world cup game the united states has ever won and we are now in the world cup. every four years, we are regular participants but we don't often win games. >> this is psychologically, a

great way to go. >> since 1930, we did something. i'm not sure. i think the first time in 190 we have won the opening round so this is exciting stuff. of course, we will be watching on sunday. >> much more ahead. >> to see if the dream continues. also this morning geo political unrest in the northeast has two themes surfacing today. the fragile state of the iraqi government. this is nothing new. and the looming threat from iran. now president obama is sending troops to protect the american embassy in baghdad as the country's fate, well, it really hangs in the balance. it can go one of about five ways and four of them are very, very bad. more on that in a minute. as the summer begins to heat up deadly weather is striking the heartatlanta in a huge ray. yesterday, extremely wear twin tornadoes struck nebraska. the "omaha world-herald" headline "like god dragged two fingernails across the land."

a 5-year-old killed and 18 more injured. they are epic. witnesses say one of the tornadoes barreled down main street in pilger. reed timer posted these photos to instagram of the rare twin funnels. local officials said half of the town's businesses was destroyed and the highway patrol has closed all roads entering the town. let's go straight to bill karins for the latest on that. how rare is this? >> jaw dropping. i haven't heard from any meteorologist alive that has ever seen anything like this. not often we are surprised. we have seen ef-5 tornadoes and wipe the landscape to shreds. to have two tornadoes that close to each other estimated a mile apart had never been recorded in our country's history as far as we can remember. we have had parent tornadoes, big huge ones in the middle and

little ones around it but never two big ones that close to one another. we are not sure of the physics to know how it's possible, let alone to capture it on a camera. half of the town of pilger is wiped out. nothing as bad as that video but a lot of damage out there. 400 reports of severe weather damage last night and threat in the chicago and milwaukee areas. you're under a tornado watch until 9:00 local time. there's still strong storms rolling through this region and as far as the rest of the country goes, 44 million people today under the risk of severe storms. >> my gosh. look at that too. >> these pictures, there were so many storm chasers out there. it was flat land and mostly farmland thankfully but it did hit that small farming town. it looks like probably 150 to 200-mile-per-hour winds with those tornadoes. i don't know if in our lives we will see anything like that again. >> thomas, you lived and

reported in nebraska. you saw a lot of tornadoes but as bill karins said, nobody has ever seen this before. >> i've never seen anything like that before. i was a general assignment reporter but that was known as a storm chaser because you would get sent in the car with your camera as a one-man band and have to chase these things. never saw anything like this before. amazing. the people that saw this in nebraska had to be petsived. when you see that coming toward you you're frozen in your feet. you don't know what to do. >> bill, thank you. we will check back with you for a look at the forecast and airport delays as well. the problems for gm just keeps coming. >> do you believe this? >> no. except they are probably doing such a thorough review now and look what happens when you actually look. they keep coming for the carmaker and they are recalling 3.3 million cars because of a faulty key design that could accidentally shut the car off

while it's in motion. no deaths have been attributed to this latest recall but it's similar to the defect that landed gm in hot water earlier this year. that problem is being blamed for at least 13 deaths and 54 crashes. seven models are included in the latest recall including buick, chevrolet and cadillac. they were replace the key. if you're on social media you know something said on twitter or facebook would never be said to someone's face. >> why do you say that, mika? oh, my gosh. by the way, you keep -- i don't know how you do it. you keep your twitter feed up during the show. and it is the horrific things that don't all of our twitter feeds. >> i've never seen anything like that. >> just -- >> i know. it's almost like sport just to see how mean people can be. >> the only time i've ever seen you flinch is when somebody congratulated you on being pregnant.

>> that was nice. >> when you were bragging about gaining a few pounds and somebody said, congratulations on your new pregnancy. >> yes. >> that is the only time i've seen you lose it over there! >> well, it happens. the supreme court has agreed to take up a case that may change the way people talk to each other online. the justices will review the conviction of a man who, get this, wrote on his facebook page about killing his wife after their separation. he says the postings helped him deal with the situation and he never posted any true threat. the court will have to decide whether a reasonable person would feel threatened to even if the men would never attend actual violence. the man's attorney says it doesn't apply online because it might not be obvious when somebody is blowing off steam. >> that is garbage. so much crap written online. frightening stuff written about everybody. >> i think there's a couple of new challenges we have to face and the courts have to get

involved. the other is google and being able to forget someone in their searches. a big piece. >> in europe they are allowing people to have their profiles if you're searching for yourself that if you see something objectionable that you don't coming up in the cure radiation of your name you can object to that. >> the right to be forgotten in the search profile is a big case and i think google has a huge problem on their hands. a lot of people's lives are impacted unfairly by the search programs that they have. >> it's absolutely horrific. absolutely horrific. >> these are two cases. thank y i think that one will get to court. it has in some ways and i think become a huge issue. you see this on twitter and facebook and the way that people are speaking to each other and i'm looking at teenagers. >> we used to have this distinction between public figures and private figures, right some now everyone in some sense is a public figure and

that throws the law up in the air because no real distinction between celebrities and normal of people when a thousand hits on normal people. >> courts need to step in. >> you can't blame it on al algorit algorithm. >> i think all of those, the slander laws, i think people -- i think if people say things online that are damaging or hurtful, i think they need to be sued. i think the supreme court needs to step in here because it is out ra outrageous and doesn't matter whether you're a kid in high school or a girl in middle school and people are picking on you, it is sometime for some adults to step in and nobody -- this whole idea, it's on the internet, so everything is cool! no, it's not cool. that is where we are living in the 21st century and it is time for the courts to step up and start holding people

accountable, including google, yahoo! beam and the other servers that a lot of this crap to go up top in their search engines. in a newspaper put crap at the top of their newspapers that were lies, falsehoods, lies, slanted ru slanderous, guess what? they would be seed. why can't the search engines that actually generate income and hits by spreading lies about people? >> because here is the question, right? it's the question that they will have to grapple with is google, is publisher or a newsstand? we think you can't sue a newsstand for displaying lies. >> google publishes. >> you have an opinion about that but the courts have not decided that at all. >> google publishes. >> as a newsstand doesn't display -- >> if you have "the new york

times" or "usa today" the newsstand does not determine what is put on the front of the newspaper but google has more influence. >> they would argue they are the disseminator of things -- >> they are arguing but that is wrong because they are dead wrong, because google is the one that determines what your reputation is by what they put on your page, what they put on your page, what they put on your page. >> what keeps getting turned out. >> people are slandering you and spreading lies about you over and over again and google keeps feeding that, especially google. but also yahoo! they need to be held accountable. >> as we look at their business model expanding or whether we are talking about google glass or they want to get into the smartphone business or talk about them hiring katie couric to be the gobel news anchor at yahoo! that redefines they are not newsstand selling gum and newspapers but they are redefining their brand and what it means so there is a more

seriousness that comes along with that. >> do they sell beef jerky too? i love that. >> only certain stands. let's get to the big story of the day. that is fascinating and we should revisit this and i think you're both right about it. the iraqi government is focused on stamping out the insurgency there. while the u.s. pushes for political reconciliation, p pri minister al maliki is paying far more attention to the military mission against the extremist fighters. "the new york times" says he spend most of his time on war strategy and not on efforts to bring together the competing sides. in fact, members of his inner circle are now wearing military uniforms instead of civilian clothes. >> what a clown! >> great. >> what a clown! >> president obama is boosting security at the u.s. embassy in baghdad by deploying an extra 275 military personnel. outside of the capitol the

fighting continues with the sunni terror group taking new ground. it's something that the shiite leadership in iran has that leadership in iran on edge and raises the potential of washington and tehran actually working together to try and solve the crisis. secretary of state john kerry was asked about that yesterday. >> we're open to discussions, if there is something constructive that can be contributed by iran. if iran is prepared to do something that is going to respect the integrity and sovereignty of iraq and the ability of the government to reform. >> can you see cooperating with iran militarily? >> at this moment, i think we need to go step-by-step and see what, in fact, might be a relate reality but i wouldn't rule out anything constructive for real mobility. a respect for the constitutional process and the election process and respect for the iraqi people

to form a government that represents all of the interests of iraq. >> julie, reports out yesterday, 275 troops the white house decided to send over protect the embassy. if more troops are needed i couldn't help but think that is more of a new process. reports 500 marines going on sitting on a ship in the persian gulf. you can't help but believe this is the beginning of president obama sending over as many troops as he needs to to bring stability to this country. >> right. so far we are hearing about this in small numbers. 275 troops for security and support largely of the embassy. there is talk about putting troops on some kind of carrier in the region and also discussion about sending u.s. special forces in to do training of iraqi security forces. you're look at possibly a hundred there. when you start to add up these numbers, you could conceivably end up with over a thousand. you could possibly end up with a few thousand.

then you're looking at a situation where you may end up with the same number of americans on the ground in iraq as we may have if we had a bilateral security grooemtagree the end of 2011. >> gene robinson, i suspect that is where we will end up and end up doing that for a rodeo clown. maliki who is now putting himself in a clown's uniform. the only reason he's in a military uniform and has a very good chance of being caught and hung just like saddam hussein he ignore the government for years trying to bring sunnis and kurds into the government. >> he refuses to do it. not only does he not bring them into the government but he has governed in a way that send an unmistakable signal to the sunnis and kurds. the shiites are in charge and you guys deal with it. he has ruled in a sectarian way.

but my friend and competitor tom friedman from "the new york times" wrote a great line the other day which is we should keep in mind that in this case the enemy of my enemy is still my enemy. you know, if we start sending troops even in small numbers to aid the maliki government, just remember, we are fighting alongside the iranians who are sending troops for the same purpose. while the white house has ruled out military cooperation, i don't know how they do this without at least some military coordination with iran, which is doing exactly the same thing. this is a really, really messy situation and i think the white house should be really careful about, you know, getting more involved. >> okay. coming up, still ahead on "morning joe" the new information we are learning about kids and caffeine. how much they are consuming and what even a small amount can do to their bodies. >> this report says it's bad?

>> they are all in starbucks. you know what? that coffee is so strong if you have more than one a day, i'm not surprised it's dangerous for a child. >> kid are going for a into starbucks and dunkin' donuts. >> lines several times a day in my town. the "duck dynasty" family is planning to run the kissing congressman out of office. >> really? that guy was framed, by the way. >> stop. >> after funneling his 2012 campaign how rick perry is positioning himself for a potential second chance -- >> made out that kissing congressman, he just went after it. >> stop. >> no, seriously. harold, that was -- they actually ran out -- i think they ran out of the security camera thing that is going 24 hours and he was still kissing her. >> that is what they called harold in college. >> the kissing congressman. >> kissing babies. first, here is bill karins

with a check of the forecast. is it going to get any better out there? >> not in the midwest nor any time soon. showed you the picture of the twin tornadoes earlier in the show. a disaster overnight with flash flooding. areas just near sioux falls, south dakota. they have picked up 14 inches of rain in the month of june alone. this is the most rain that they have ever seen in any month and we are only halfway through the month. they have had water rescues and firefighters going in boats to homes overnight trying to rescue people and a lot of property damage as you see. it's not just the tornadoes. a lot of problems with flooding along that rock rapids river. as far as the other concerns during the day today, i mentioned 44 million people including detroit and chicago in the risk of severe storms today. i don't think we are going to see huge tornadoes like yesterday but we could have isolated twisters. we have the heat in the mid-atlantic. this is day two of our three day heat wave. today about 96 in raleigh and 95

richmond and 93 in washington, d.c. it's kind of our first little heat wave we have had and probably no relief until wednesday night and peak 100 near richmond and raleigh. the heat in the mid-atlantic and the endless drenching rains continue in the midwest. you're watching "morning joe." we will be right back. ♪ when sales rep steve hatfield books at laquinta.com,

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and drink these days. and it's our kids who are consuming it more than ever before. high levels of caffeine in children's diets is now raising some serious red flags in the health community. here is dr. nancy snyderman. >> reporter: tara and mitch lieberman say their boys have so much energy. >> here is water. >> reporter: they carefully limit the amount of caffeine their kids consume. >> i just feel it's healthier to give them juices with low sugar amounts, water, milk, stuff like that. >> reporter: caffeine is hard to avoid these days. no longer just in coffee, tea and colas, it's now added to many new products from energy drinks to snacks and candy. and while we have known for some time that caffeine races blood pressure and lowers heart rate today's study reveals how it affects boys and girls differently after puberty. the report from the university of buffalo studied the impact of

even small amounts of calf teen on children ages 8 to 9 and on teenagers ages 15 to 17. the younger kids got approximately the caffeine equivalent of a half to a full can of soda. the teens one to two cans worth. among all groups that teenage boys experienced slightly higher blood pressure level than the girls. researchers in this study aren't sure sure. another concern, the effect after caffeine on millions of kids with other medical issues like adhd. >> if you take asthma medications or behavioral medications, this can be a big problem and something that has a buy logical effect on our bodies and have you to be careful. >> boy. especially with the younger kid. >> no doubt about it. so "daily news" the front of "the daily news" a tough picture

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all right. so this is the big story that we are all talking about today. >> what is that? >> football. >> real football. >> not going to stop us. >> i believe. how about you? playing its first game of the 2014 world cup against group g rival ghana, ghana eliminating the u.s. in the 2010 world cup. look at the highlights. usa wasted no time striking first. clint dempsey. >> he is unbelievable. >> that is right out of the gate. the scary moment for the u.s. came in the 20th mint.

hamstring injury and he is re-evaluated today for altidore. >> who -- go ahead. >> this is tim howard. this is the shot that stopped everything. corner kick. john brooks with that header and that is the first usa goal in world cup history scored by a substitute player. >> he changed to the greatest american since abraham lincoln. >> and, joe, joe, i said earlier that was our fifth win in world cup competition ever. i misspoke. it was our eighth win in world cup competition. >> i got a call from the department of corrections and they let me know, gene, yes, it is the eighth and not the fifth but you were watching the whole match. you had to believe that this was going going ghana's direction. i've seen enough of these things to know that one shot after another shot after another shot,

we couldn't control possession. >> no, we couldn't. >> after this incredible shot at the very beginning gi cliby cli dempsey it was ghana's match the next 80 minutes. >> it was but somehow we won. jurgen klinsmann know we are good at set pieces and we scored on one yesterday so let's see how far he can take this team. i think this team could, you know, could do more. >> we can get through. you made a great point. great defending, john heilemann. clint dempsey had his nose broken soon after that goal that obviously, stopped him from being active. when you can't breathe through your nose it's kind of hard. the sunday's match against portugal is going to be explosive. >> they had to win this game. >> oh, they had to. no doubt about it. >> they had to get three points out of this game to get through

this. they treated it like a final and could not settle for a draw. >> klinsmann caught a lot of flak for saying we couldn't win a championship. i'm sure the players feel good when they see that ledge over there. >> they feel good about knowing johnny brooks made that happen. 2-1 for the u.s. look at brooks. he has the tattoos. one for germany which is his mom's birth place and the other for illinois which is his dad's birth place. he has dual citizenship. he had to sit out a game in april because he was getting fresh ink on his back. >> wait a minute. >> be nice to him. everybody likes him right now so be nice. germany and portugal, mueller getting the germans started here a penalty shot in the tenth

minute. >> oh, my god, the germans ran through it like it was poland 1949. portugal was destroyed. >> they had a tough time there. tomas mueller. >> when you lose 4-0, that is bad, right? >> especially when you got the best player in the world and a lot looking to portugal possibly take it now all the way and now have a red card. a man that i just loathe ronaldo. i loathe him from his moussed hair to his cleats. >> terrible. that's so awful. >> portugal is going to be in a bad mood on sunday. >> fortunately their best defender got red carded and won't play against us and two other defenders i believe are hurt. if we get a draw, then if we get

a draw -- >> the germany match doesn't matter. >> doesn't matter. we get through. >> the miami heat -- i'm sorry, they are not. >> how about the miami heat? >> the u.s. could come out of this division with two. >> are you saying the u.s. soccer team is the same as the san antonio spurs? >> i'm only saying that heavy favorite, the denver broncos -- i'm sorry, the seahawks won a super bowl as mika will remind us. >> exactly. >> miami heat, how many are they going to win? >> six or seven or eight. >> a dozen championships. >> how many have they won so far? >> two. >> they have been there four years in a row which is hard to accomplish. >> and they lost twice. i don't thi >> when they were throwing all of that chalk in the air. i remember lebron doing that. >> thomas, please! focus! >> basketball is over.

! >> we are still enjoying it! >> brazil play its second match of the world cup against mexico. out of group h russia up against south korea. you have to see this. >> brazil of mexico is going to be great. >> city of l.a. celebrating the kings stanley cup victory. the l.a. mayor came out. eric garcetti. >> my hometown. >> there are two rules in politics. they say never, ever be pictured with a drink in your hand and never swear. but this is a big [ bleep ] day. way to go, guys! >> oh, my gosh! >> it's a bfd. kind of like biden. >> kind of like biden, it is. >> a big. >> he did it on purpose here. >> he totally made everybody happy. >> kid, if you're watching at home, this is bad behavior but

we are not supporting it. >> absolutely. you never drop the f-bomb ever. >> i just don't. i make a rule you don't say it one time because if you say it one time, you say it a thousand times. >> unless you want to be vice president or mayor of l.a. >> new york mayor bill de blasio appeared on jimmy kimmel to on king. ♪ i love l.a. with we love it ♪ ♪ i love l.a. we love it ♪ >> do you remember on -- >> wow. >> do you remember on "saturday night live" when they would have tarzan, frankenstein and dracula singing "jingle bells"? >> he was tone deaf. >> the kids were really good. quickly. harold, what an incredible guy,

tony gwynn. lifetime .338 average and, more than that. he was just an extraordinary man. a wonderful, wonderful guy. died of cancer yesterday. only 54. a great player, a great man. >> great career. he played the game with a level and degree of class and really a model for young men who want to play this game. he was never flashy. he got up every day and went to work. eight-time all-star. i never met him but from afar, if i had a kid and wanted to play baseball, i'd want him to be like tony gwynn. >> hit .300, 19 seasons in a row and career of 20 years, only had 34 games where he struck out twice which is just crazy. there are players in the major leagues who strike out twice a game in a month. >> gene robinson, just one of the great hitters in baseball history but you know what? i told my kids to emulate somebody on the field and off

the field, tony gwynn would be near the top of the list from everybody i knew about him. just a decent, great humble man. >> absolutely. of the great, great hitters in the history of the game, he's the one that you'd want your kids to emulate as opposed to ty cobb or pete rose or even ted williams. one of the nicest guys in the world. >> exactly. they were not all of the nicest guys in the world but tony gwynn was a nice guy and he finished first if you were tony gwynn. >> a great piece in new york city by tyler kepner talks about tony gwynn. the way he played he learned something new every day. he had this attitude where he could discovering in about the game every single day and kept him young and made him such a great player and a force for good. >> the picture we show there. several of them you'll see he has a dip in his mouth and he blames the loss of his life to salivary gland cancer from chewing tobacco and there is the

image there that a lot of kids need to be warned off about. >> we will have will leech on the next hour take talk about the legacy of tony gwynn. up next, rick perry's thin line between serious candidate and caricature. willing voters to embrace the texas governor if he runs for president again. we will be right back with much more "morning joe." ♪

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magazine titled rick perry's groundhog day. perry ace next campaign if he pursues one would be much about the willingness of the electorate to grant second chances as anything he would bring. republican voters have been generous to second timers in the past perry pointed out to me americans don't spend all of their time looking backward perry said but they do spend a lot of time watching television and assorted other screens which is where the oops fiasco will live if he runs again. each if everyone over 35 has had that sort of blanking moment, perry's timing was awful. ron paul walked up ensaid i've done that before but never in front of 4 million people. perry told me. >> that's awful! >> the guy is so funny. >> thank you, ron paul, for making me feel better. mark, great talking to you. >> my dad does this. >> the really danger he can get in the race. we have had him on the show. he has done a lot of stuff and he is looking great. he is sounding great.

he is laughing about it. he is doing everything right. i guess the real problem is he's forgiven until he has another moment like that, right? it's never just -- it's kind of like the hillary thing talking about how she and bill were poor. >> right. >> that's not deadly in and of itself but if she does something like that again it builds on itself and suddenly you're al gore in 2000. >> it does show the peril of this environment in which once someone goes into sort of viral hell it keeps getting replayed and replayed and replayed. rick perry is unique. what is unique about perry he has a singular image and very few politicians introduction to a stage is a god awful moment that people associate with him. the question i was exploring with him how easy is it to

overcome that. he said the american people are very forgiving and i agree but i think the american people do get hung up on singular images because this is an age of images and that is very defining. >> julie pace, if rick perry lights it up i don't think people are looking in the rearview mirror four years ago saying, last tuesday night, he kicked everybody's butt on stage, i kind of like him. >> sure he is a very compelling figure when he is on his game. mark, i'm curious. we talked a lot about hillary and lessons she took away from her last campaign. did he talk about his talking points? >> you shouldn't have major back surgery a few weeks before you go on the campaign trail. >> check it off. >> i believe him and take him to his word he was not at his top

physical and mental condition when he ran for president. he didn't realize the stamina it's going to require. you know, check. i also, though, think that the reason the oops moment was so defining is because it actually underscored a larger caricature taking hold which is the guy wasn't ready for prime time and clearly he wasn't in 2012. the question is has he ramped up? he says he is studying and having big meetings. he even out as jewish to me so i was spre impressed. >> that is great and awesome. mike barn a kill still makes fun of me a decade later how i acted two months after my back surgery when i was on set in -- i'm dead serious. two months later, they sort of -- i couldn't move but they flew me up to new york and ten years later, mike still laughs about how out of it i was. i mean, you have back surgery and you're dealing with painkillers and everything else. i can't imagine running a

presidential campaign under those circumstances. maybe that is why i'm giving him such a big pass. >> i think every person, business, politics, particularly politics deserves a second chance. the interesting thing about perry and curious what mark and heilemann think about this. one of the first statements he made, he said if ben bernanke was in texas he would probably suffer a butt kicking the way the fed -- >> treat him real rough. >> then he made a comparison between alcoholism and being gay. there is a proclivity to say things that get you -- during your campaign, did you find those things common? mark, did you get into some of those with him as well? he continues, i think, to say things that not only stir controversy but raises question about his fitness to be president. >> well, first of all, i give a lot of credit to the health thing because it's not just that he had had back surgery but the back surgery kept him from being able to run and he is a lifelong

runner. he has not sleeping the first six months of the campaign and doing these debate performances and not only suffering the pain from the back surgery but doing them without any sleep. all of that is true. harold, i think you're right. some of this goes into that. but i think mark's earlier point is the crucial point which is that he entered the race with the national press thinking -- asking one question is this guy smart enough to be president? the oops thing for every reporter who had that question, it was hovering out there it was, oh, no, he is not smart enough to be president and the thing he is trying to fix right now partly with a pair of intellectual looking glasses and trying to get his intellect up. >> mark leibovich. coming up jimmy fallon doing it again.

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>> please go on. really. >> you left the house? on stage? what are you talking about? >> a long story. >> i want to hear this. >> we have a show to do. >> no. we are stopping this show for this. you snuck out of your house and went to new york to see an actor? >> it was only for a month. >> i'm not going to say anything. >> it was only for a month. >> i need to know p.m. this sounds like the summer of '67. >> you say "see an actor" you mean? >> visit. i got out of grand central. i thought these are really big buildings! what am i doing? >> were you dating an actor. >> no, i -- >> was this rob lowe? >> no! >> who was it? >> i was a teenager. >> right. >> and so? >> it's the top of the hour. welcome back to "morning joe." >> and you left your house? >> hasn't anyone told their dad a little fib? >> i'm going to the quickie mart and be right back and you go to new york city? >> they were abroad.

>> they were overseas? and you -- >> yeah. it's time to move on. >> he they sort of left the door open. >> that's right. >> how old were you when you did this? >> my 16-year-old daughter is here so i'm ready to move on. >> how old were you? >> i was a teenager. young. >> carly! carly, you've got a free pass! you want to go to the south of france. >> oh, my gosh. i just thought -- >> are you serious? >> it was very innocent. >> it doesn't sound innocent at all! >> i went to see an actor. >> i twont visit. >> would we know the actor? >> what is the word when you realize you're in too deep and i got out and looked at the big building and thought what am i doing? >> do we know who the actor was? was it chachi? >> i gave you a chance to do the intros. it's not happening. gene robinson and john heilemann is still with us. >> who is the actor?

>> the owner of the weekly standard bill crystal. >> until she names the actor, let's not do the show. >> and nick christoff columnist for "the new york times." please move on. you're going to have to wait. >> bill, this is shocking. >> i'm speechless. >> i really am. >> i went right home. it wasn't that big a deal. >> what every j. this morning unrest in the middle east has two things resurfacing today. the fragile state of the iraqi government and looming threat coming from iran and president obama is sending troops to protect the u.s. embassy in baghdad. the fate of the country is anything but certain by i suspect the number of troops will grow overtime. as a.p. julie pace said we may have the number of troops we were going to have had we had a residual force there. we will have a live report. richard engel is in baghdad and bus in a few minutes. as summer heats up deadly

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the carmaker is recalling another 3.3 million cars because of a faulty key design that could accidentally shut the car off while in motion. no deaths have been attributed to this latest recall but it's similar to the defect that landed gm in hot water earlier this year. that problem is being blamed for at least 13 deaths and 54 crashes. seven models are included in the latest recall including buick, chevrolet and cadillac and gm simply rans to rework or replace the keys to prevent inadvertent shutdowns. if you're on social media you know some things would never be said to your face and everyone here has been through this. supreme court has agreed to take up a case that may change the way people talk to each other online. >> let us hope. >> this is very interesting. the justices will review the conviction of a man who wrote on his facebook page about killing his wife after their separation.

he says the postings helped him deal with the situation and he never posed any true threat. the court will have to decide whether a reasonable person would feel threatened even if the man never intended actual violence. the answer is yes. right? >> right. >> wouldn't you? >> yeah. seriously this double standard that we are supposedly grappling with we need to stop grappling with it and start treating what is on websites the same way we treat things that are published in newspapers. and for these internet service providers like google and yahoo! and bing decide where to place things and take the most vile garbage from the internet and put it at the top of a search engine they are promoting it and they are providing what is called false light. they need to be sued and they need to be taken to the bank and they need to clean up their act. right now, it's a wild west. we could destroy people's reputation if we want to and all they are trying to do is drive internet traffic so they can get

higher ad revenue. it is despicable and it's disgusting and whether you're talking about public figures who aren't running for political office because of the disgusting tactics of these organizations use are a 13-year-old girl being bullied at school because what is online it's outrageous and time for this wild west mentality to end. this is where we live now. this is not some offshoot of society. this is where our children live and it is time for supreme court and it's time for lawmakers in washington, d.c. to stop treating it like it's some esoteric new technology we need to put in the corner and treat specially. no stomp out this hate speech. if it's not allowed on this, it shouldn't be allowed on the internet. people need to be held liable. they need to be held liable. >> the man's attorney in this case says the legal test of reasonable threats don't apply online because it may not be obvious when someone is simply blowing off steam. >> that's absolutely garbage.

to the big story of the day. the iraqi government is focused on stamping out the insurgency there but now the tactics favors through the obama administration. the u.s. pushes for reconciliation prime minister alma lal maliki is paying more attention to the extreme fighters. they say maliki spends more time on war strategy and not on efforts to bring together the competing side. members of his inner circle are now wearing military uniforms instead of civilian clothes. president obama is boosting security at u.s. embassy in baghdad by deploying an extra 275 military personnel. outside of the capital, the fighting continues with the sunni terror group taking new ground. it's something that has the shiite leadership in iran on edge and raises the potential of washington and tehran actually working together to solve the crisis. speaking yesterday, secretary of

state john kerry talked about residual force of american troops whether it would have kept this from happening after 2011. >> unquestionably not and whatever residual force was discussed to be left in iraq would have been, had the iraqis accepted the terms by which we leave troops anywhere in the world which they refused to do but that force would have been noncombat and it would have been not involved in combat. so it was not a combatant force that was being contemplated. it was train, advise, assist, so forth. >> your columns, i see your mission when i look at your columns that you're chosen for yourself to bring the hope to the hopeless. if i want to read about invading other countries or not, i'm looking to bill over here, bill crystal. >> not on the not invading side. >> not on the not invading side. >> look elsewhere.

>> i was trying to be kind, bill. but in this case, the united states not taking action, sitting back doing nothing, the world, let's say the world. be more fair. the world community. it has led to a refugee crisis and hundreds of thousands of refugees in iraq and hundreds and thousands in syria, jordan has a massive refugee problem and so does turkey. we have a humanitarian crisis of epic proportions and talking about guns here. nobody is talking about what is happening. i wonder how much longer can we afford to sit back and say, you know what? l we are going to lead from behind and it's a terrible world out there but we can't get involved. what is the cost of that to these refugees? >> i don't see there is an

ideological solution. kos kosovo was a huge success. in the case of syria a lot of criticism for obama not keeping a residual force in iraq. i don't think that would have mattered. it did matter he didn't approve the petraeus/hillary clinton plan to arm modern rebels and we don't know if that would have made a difference. >> but my point really wasn't because we got a package coming up basically saying everybody on all sides have been wrong in iraq. i'm not looking back but forward now. can we really sit back and do nothing as this refugee crisis goes, as the suffering goes and instability grows, as country one after another breaks down, as al qaeda, as "the daily news" says is getting a foot hs hold in the center of the middle east? >> in the case of iraq, i think

it would be -- i think obama is doing the right thing by trying to use what leverage he has to push maliki to work with other parties. i mean, even after mosul fell, he had an opportunity. the sunni tribes agreed to form a sunni army to combat isis. isis is only 4,000 people or so and there is a political solution to this, not a military solution. >> bill crystal, now maliki, the guy that wouldn't listen to bush advisers and wouldn't listen to obama advisers, maliki reports have over the past 24 hours is now manning the military stations, not reaching out to the sunnis and he and his buddies are all wearing military uniforms now. the guy is a clown. >> well, he's not a great prime minister. he did listen to bush advisers. the bush administration pushed him to include sunnis and he did for a while and, in fact, that is why a residual force with the troops in there would have

managed. >> what do we do now? >> maliki is treating it as a war. people are marching 50 miles to his capital slaughtering his army. it's a war because the iranians helped bring him to this place. >> iranians instead of the americans. >> we made it clear we were willing to get out but, fine he is paying for it. it's not just -- >> what do we do now? >> it is a strategic crisis. let's be clear what is going to happen. >> what do we do now. >> the most radical al qaeda group will be there for miles. >> that is not acceptance. >> the iranians will expand their influence far to the west and strornger evethan ever. we go back in and try to strengthen what moderates there are ae and have to give the sunnis a chance to break from isis. how does maliki have an

incentive but cater to the shia death squads and iranian interest unless we're there to pressure them. >> this logic of yours that you pointed out is consistent you're thinking about foreign policy and intervention. at this moment in the american policy, it seems to me less than zero appetite for the kind of thing you're talking about. how would you get over the fact that the country en masse, democrat and republican would tell you you're nuts to think that we should be sending -- >> i don't believe that. >> residual forces back into iraq to get back involved in this war? >> if the president had gone to syria in 2011? the president of united states goes on tv saying this is a strategic crisis for the reasons i'm laying out here. we have to do something no one wants to do is go back in with air power and special forces and a few conventional troops to help stabilize the situation and not allow an al qaeda-backed group to dominate one part of

the middle east and iranian backed groups to dominate another part of the middle east. unacceptable threat to us. >> guys, hold on one second! you got to stop right now. we have to cut this off. richard engel is not in the safest of place. >> richard, take. i know there is a delay. >> reporter: prime minister maliki knows he is on war footing now. he is starting to wear a uniform. he believes he is fighting a terrorist group and he believes he is fully justify inside doing almost anything to fight that group. he has asked iran for help. he is getting help from iran. he has asked the united states for some help and it's unclear if that is coming. i think the way this is going is down the next couple of weeks or a few months, you might see maliki starting to act in ways that are quite reminiscent. he is bombing sunni cities.

reports today that shiite militias allied to maliki carried out a massacre of 44 prisoners. there was an attempted prison break. as these sunni prisoners got out they were in front of the police station and shiite militia according to three witnesses showed up and executed these detainees. this kind of thing is starting to happen on a larger and larger scale. we don't know where this is going. i was listening to some of your conversation earlier. absolutely there is a giant hole in the middle of the middle east. it used to be just in syria where you had the bashar al sad alternative a natty regime. the movement deteriorated that is deteriorated into something that can't be trusted. in iraq a similar situation a rebel movement crossed in and joined up with some former baath

party. i think going forward, we are going to be facing some difficult choices if maliki starts to look and act like bashar. >> richard engel, thank you so much for that. eugene robinson, when you look at the options here someone says this has to be dealt with and we have to go in somehow, some way but who are we working with? who is on our side? that is the question. and i don't see any good options. bill crystal said we have to go in and protect the sunnis. okay so we are going to protect the sunnis against maliki government? is that the side we are going to be fighting on? or are we going to be fighting on behalf of maliki government what is going to start bombing the sunnis? or are we going to stand in the middle and somehow try to keep

these sides apart? >> yes that is what we should do. >> i don't think it's a good option, bill. >> that is what we should do. >> stand in the middle and shot by both sides? >> a little bit of that but the alternative, as richard engel said eloquently is unbelievable deterioration of the situation. syria on steroids in iraq and what does that look like? not from a humanitarian point but for the united states. we should not let it get to this point. >> bill, i understand there is a hole in the middle east and we can't sit back and let that hole grow. we just can't allow that to happen. but what do we do? there is no omaha beach to land these troops on. what do we do? >> i think we don't support the maliki government at this point when he is, as richard says, turning -- a risk he is turning it into something like a bashar al assad. we tried to go into lebanon a

holes there and a disaster. we ended up getting our marines blown up. in this case, the only thing we can do is push maliki and use the leverage -- >> but maliki can't be pushed. no. we tried to push maliki. obama tried to push maliki. the generals tried to push maliki. even when we were there with tens of thousands of troops, maliki still was a bad actor so that is not a solution. what we do if that doesn't work? >> maliki fought the shia death squads in 2007 and 2008. i would not have intervened in 2010 and say maliki to help win re-election but that is second-guessing but the no the case we could have no leverage on maliki but if he needs to be removed the only way to get a better government in iraq is if we intervene there and we have the ability to have some leverage there. otherwise it's an al qaeda proxy and iranian proxy.

>> you're talking about 50,000 troops? >> i don't think you're talking about anything like that. it's a difficult path ahead. i'm not pretending this is easy but i think the alternatives are worse. >> the worst thing to do is go in on one side of a civil war. i think the second worst option is stay out and hope that there is some evolution and we can help on the syria front to some degree. >> just to -- >> how can we help in syria? we have much more leverage in iraq than in syria. >> in syria, we can continue to try to support the fsa, the free syrian army and we don't know whether this is going to work. we had a much better window to do this two or three years ago but there is some hope we can buttress moderates there at the expense of isis. >> john heilemann, can you imagine be the president of the united states and here is the deal. we got a shia prime minister we are going to try to help but also shia death squads so we are going to get in the middle of of

the good and bad shias and sunnis. we need to protect the sunnis like bill said and we need to protect the sunnis. but the death squads are also sunni death squads so this isn't really a civil war between sunnis and shia between good and bad sunnis and good shias. good luck selling that to the american people. >> good luck with that. here is why i think bill's notion with all due respect is fantastical as absurd. >> but the president! the president -- let me finish! he is the president of the united states. he not running for re-election. would congress stop him in he did this? no. >> would the country support him as you just laid it out? >> yes, override the will of the people! >> yes, absolutely right! >> he is the president of america. this is american blood you're talking about. you want to send people into another intervention in which

most people in the country believe that this is a century's old sectarian violence that we have no place and no ability to solve! >> just like rwanda and other difficult situation. what is your recipe? take a poll? >> my recipe if we put american blood on the line there should be some kind of public support for it and there is not for this. >> how do you know? how do you know? has the president tried to make a case for this? >> neither one of us know. >> you're right. make the case what is in our strategic interest? >> you know what the president has said about iraq and afghanistan? over the course of the last couple of years war weariness in this country whether you like it or not. i know you woof the weariness for war but the country does. >> you think we should get out of afghanistan too? >> i think we are make ago responsible decision by drawing down. >> afghanistan will look like iraq and syria. you talk about american blood a nice rhetorical line? is this a nice outcome for the people who have died in iraq and afghanistan? >> we agree this is a difficult

situation and i'm making the notion there is not the will in this country right now to intervene back again sectarian war that has been a disaster for the country over the course of the last deck idea. >> political leadership is making the case. >> the problem it's perceived as a failed strategy and something we already tried to do and invested $25 billion in supporting iraq. >> president obama said in 2011 as he pulled out it had succeeded. there was no sectarian civil war in iraq in 2010 or 2007 and no american casualties in 2010 and 2007. h 2011. >> we left maliki in power and we got out and above all we didn't intervene in syria and you and i were on the same side on this one. that decision which the public was very weary of, i agree. the decision in retrospect was a terrible decision and led

metastasi metastasizing. >> both sides will blame the other? we have a package coming up talking about all of the mistakes made on this. but that being said, of course, bill and i have fought an awful lot on foreign policy, on intervention. i have been against most interventions. the one mistake i think i've made the past 20 years in my opinion is iraq. i was even against kosovo and bosnia. i didn't think we needed to go into a three-sided civil war. i say all that to say that ching as "the daily news" saying with access to billions of dollars, barack obama knows that's not acceptable. and there is no good option here. there is no good option here. >> joe? >> let me finish.

that's not acceptable so we can have this debate all we want and barack obama knows that even if only 2% of americans support this, the united states of america is going to have to stop this force from dominating iraq. >> well, there may be -- >> and syria and the middle east. >> situations where there is absolutely no choice. i'll just say, having a brother that worked for president bush and a brother that works for president obama, this could be my family dinner table discussion in 2004. incredible. >> we should not engage -- if the president of the united states wants to go on tv and say i was right we never should have gotten involved. this is a serious national security crisis and the president needs to do what he thinks is right for the country and not relitigate the decision of either 2003 or the decision of 2011. i'll stop litigating 2011 fountain president goes in and says what wevever we did in the past. >> that is what your father said on friday.

nobody has more reason to crow over iraq than dr. brzezinski. all he said on friday was, the past is the past. everybody has made mistakes. everybody has miscalculated on the surge and miscalculated on 2011 and miscalculated on 2003. we have to get a bipartisan solution to this. because what is happening right now is not acceptable. not only for the region but for this country and for the world. >> it's a fine balance between what you're saying, what my father said on friday and looking at history to make better decisions. so that's why this is so hard. >> there are solutions to iraq but there are iraqi solutions. only 4,000 isis fighters in northern iraq. they are a huge army. if they get the sunni tribes and they can destroy isis but that requires a political solution. >> bill and nick, thank you so much.

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talented enough to just get by. i really had to work at it. i had to do the extra video stuff and had to go about my business and do things the way i did. i think people, we make a big deal about work ethic, we make a big deal about trying to make good decisions and doing things right. you know what? we are supposed to. that's what they pay us for. >> that was tony gwynn in 2007 at his hall of fame induction ceremony. he passed away yesterday at 54 from salivary gland cancer. with us now is senior write for sports on earth.com contributing editor for new york magazine and the founder of deadspin.org will leach and dr. nancy snyderman. will, we have talked about how great tony gwynn was as a player and man but give me your thoughts on his passing really quickly. >> yeah, he was very -- a throwback in almost every kind of way. in college he played at san diego and plays his entire

career there and coached at san diego state. so rare. not only to stay with one team but with one city in a lot of ways. he struck out eight evens he struck out 20 times or less. there are a hundred players that did that in major league baseball last month. he was a different player in a lot of ways. >> that is amazing. >> dr. nancy, let's talk about whatgawynn attributes his passing to, salivary gland cancer. he was cut down in his prime. what do people need to know what it means that took him, salivary grand cancer? >> you associate cigarettes with cancer of the throat and dipping and putting chew in your mouth the same thing. carcinogens in tobacco go into the cheek and the lining of the mouth. you combine that with alcohol. even casual drinking. the kind of beer that anybody would drink it increases the risk.

interestingly there was a study a gazillion years ago looking at kindergartens in arkansas and founds 50% of kindergartens were using tobacco. satisfy a brother or uncle do on it and it's flavored. if any of you have tried chewing tobacco you know there is a molasses flavor. you get a high and a buzz. the flavor goes away and you spit it out. it's that repeated exposure of the lining of the mouth to the carcinogens and you get cancer. kids as young in their 20s and 30s have gotten it and sad to think a 50-year-old would die prematurely from cancer of the mouth. >> what do you think the prospects are in major league baseball banning chewing tobacco? i know some efforts in 2011. the agreement comes up in 2016. >> they need to step up to the plate literally. you see players chewing gum and

eating seeds. i don't know why they are doing any of that to begin with. it's sort of a cultural thing but no rule for tobacco product at all in major league sports. if you want to take about athletes being athletes that means taking tobacco out of the game completely. >> will, what do you think? >> yeah, it's funny. major league baseball has tried to keep it out of the public eye. the fact they are encouraged players not -- that do use it not to show it so you don't see it that much but there are reports that usage is actually up. one of the things that people have talked about when amphetamines were banned the players feel like they need any way some sort of pick up a little bit and when amphetamines were banned you heard from a lot of players and a lot of reporters in the clubhouse saying this is something that has increased specifically because of that ban. >> they like that buzz but the belief is that it must change your reaction time or your hand/eye coordination or how well you perceive the ball and

that part is fal lalacy interesg enough. >> they are chewing sunflower seeds or something like that. will, baseball players are weird and they have got to be weird and they have got their strange habits because it is a -- it's a tough game to play mentally, right? >> if someone chews today and gets three hits, they will be chewing tomorrow. so much of the game is kind of mental in that way of what kind of head space you're in and how you feel move forward. it's not a coincide that major league baseball, i think, understandably has tried to make sure players don't do this publicly but i don't think any question you can tell a player not to do it but if he is hitting he is going to go ahead and do it. >> when you get cancer of the mouth there are three things that all of us do every day without thinking. we talk, we swallow, we speak. you get cancer of the mouth

anyone of three of those will go away forever. >> speaking of stimulants. caffeine and kids, mika, talk about that. >> i see kids lined up at the starbucks for their second and third cup of the day and that is strong coffee. >> this is not a cup any more. be real. this is not a dose. a dose used to be 8 ounces. >> that's right. it's also these energy drinks which are just -- >> let me start with the energy drinks. energy comes from food. caffeine is a stimulant. it doesn't give you energy. it gives you the same kind of estimation that, you know, tobacco would. so these kids think they are getting energy but they are just getting stimulation and leads to insomnia and report that came out yesterday increased blood pressure in adolescent boys. we know how girls and boys metabolize cave but the study yesterday showed blood pressure goes up and heart rate goes down

because it's metabolized different in adolescents boys. what happens in college someone on adhd medicine and asthma medication? the answer is we don't know. >> will and nancy, thank you. will, come back soon. >> my pleasure. more extreme weather in the midwest including this extreme twin tornado that touched down in nebraska. bill karins has a full report in a moment. we will be right back. ♪ spokesperson: the volkswagen passat is heads above the competition, but we're not in the business of naming names. the fact is, it comes standard with an engine that's been called the benchmark of its class. really, guys, i thought... it also has more rear legroom than other midsize sedans.

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stone" article which the president determined left mcchrystal unfit to lead. >> war is bigger than any one man or woman, whether a private, a general, or a president. the conduct represented in the recently published article does not meet the standard that should be set by a commanding general. >> wow. four years ago to the week, general stanley mcchrystal was forced from his job after that "rolling stone" article written by michael hastings and it rocked the pentagon. hastings died one year ago tomorrow in a tragic car accident. joining us now writer and political commentator elise jordan who joins us with her late husband's previously unpublished novel "the last magazine." welcome. >> great. thanks for having me on. >> tell us about the book. >> it's about the dirty underbelly of journalism. it is a satire of a news magazine during the run jump to the iraq war and it's harshly

critical of the establishment voices who were very pro-iraq war and for reasons and, suddenly, their support went out the window when the war went down the tubes. so that's kind of -- it's just his -- benting his frustration and how he felt that the media really played a very negative role in the run-up to the war on iraq. >> john? >> your husband died in this tragic car crash and became the subject of a lot of conspiracy theories and craziness. among the terrible things you had to go through in losing him you then had to live in this weird vortex everybody in the world was speculate pregnant whap was it like having to deal with your grief while so many people were spinning these yarns about what happened to him? >> it was really hard and it kept me in this world of denial for a while because you want to believe and cling to whatever hope you can that maybe possibly he could be alive. he said he was working on an nsa

story with edward snowden. i thought he is in russia and hiding out and a big bad nightmare. you realize people are using something using something like michael's death to promote their own means, which i feel like a lot of the cyber crash talk was. and that's just military industrial complex right there. >> so, elise, very sorry for your loss. of course, you being here as the anniversary approaches tomorrow. you know that being out there, out front to talk about this book that this conversation is going to come up. so, what is it that you believe exactly happened that night in los angeles? >> i think it was an accident. i think that he always chain smoked cigarettes when he was riding and intensely working on a project and i think he probably ran out of cigarettes and went to the store and shouldn't have been, you know -- shouldn't have been, you know, out that late at night. and it just was my tragedy and

the world's tragedy. i feel like he brought so much to the world with his journalism. >> he really did. >> when you look at his profile of bowe bergdahl this past week, that everybody is focusing on, it's incredible. >> in so many ways he keeps coming back to us because his reporting was so remarkable. it's really now helping to tell the story that some argue even the white house botched. >> he, at the time, considered that his most important story ever. and he really expected, and he braced for attacks similar to when he wrote about stan will he mcchrystal. p och p.o.w., being tortured, no one cared. >> he actually thought when he wrote it -- when you read it, it is an extraordinary story. he thought when he wrote it the

reaction was going to be intense. >> he knew -- he anticipated. and his call was right in that the story was going to be politicized, but it happened two years later when bowe was finally in safety and not in any way that, you know, helped secure his release. >> so, this book that you -- did you know this manu script even ski existed? >> oh, yes. >> his colleagues urged you to publish it. this is not where you expected to be right now. >> no, no. michael had spoken about the novel frequently. he finished it right before he went on his embed with general mcchrystal. then that story happened and he got a book contract to write a book on afghanistan. he just kind of -- this was finished but he put it aside and wanted to wait until the time was right. when he pass add way, a colleague reminded me about it. i read it in one sitting. it's hilarious. it's a lot of his familiar

themes. it's a really fun novel but at the same time it's a message of the responsibility of the media when reporting on these issues of critical national importance. >> well, the book is the last magazine. elise jordan, thank you so much. thank you for bringing us his story in so many ways. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. when salesman alan ames books his room at laquinta.com, he gets a ready for you alert the second his room is ready. so he knows exactly when he can check in and power up before his big meeting. and when alan gets all powered up, ya know what happens? i think the numbers speak for themselves. i'm sold! he's a selling machine! put it there. and there, and there, and there.

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ghana evened up their match with the united states. the match now tied at one. we have tons of great places to watch. [ cheering ] [ chanting u.s.a. ] it is 8:00 am on the east coast, 5:00 am on the west

coast, as you take a live look at new york city. >> boy, is it beautiful out there but, man, the midwest. >> horrible. >> horrible storms and something that bill karins says he has never seen before. >> we will have that straight ahead. with us on set, and in washington eugene robinson and julie pace. >> is that what your house looked like yesterday afternoon? >> i heard some things happening, yes. i actually didn't really understand but now i do. i get it. this is big. really big. >> this is big! >> you guys watch? >> soccer is not that complicated a sport. it's really complicated -- >> thank you. >> you put the ball in the net. >> that was 38 seconds in and, of course, ghana came back later and really dominated about 85 minutes of this match. we scored in the first minute and they came back and tied it

1-1. a header by a guy who had been just absolutely ridiculed for some time. had a horrific few games, few matches. but the header goes in 86 minutes in. mika, nobody saw it go coming because, again, we did great the first 38 seconds or so of the match and then we had no offensive scheme. we had no plan, no nothing. ghana dominated the entire match. we scored at the beginning. >> as you know, joe scarborough, they had to win this game. >> they're in the league -- it is, it's called the group of death and for good reason. gene robinson, of course, i know i was following you on twitter. i saw you were following the game. >> oh, yeah. >> there was no way we were expected to beat ghana, who has beaten us in the past two world cups, no way we were expected to

beat germany. to get out of this group of death to get out of group play. amazing things happened with this match. of course, you had portugal having an absolute meltdown yesterday. their best defender is not going to be there. suddenly, we just have to draw against portugal on sunday and we're through. >> yeah. but we've got to do a little better. this was a great game and a great win. a little bit worried about the injury. but, you know, god, they did dominate for 80% of the game. it's all about the set pieces. corner kick, we're xwood at that. and we better be really good at it when we play portugal. >> we were beaten and bruised yesterday, broken noses. >> ghana dominated that 80

minutes, ghana was on goal for 80 minutes and the u.s. hung tough. >> tim howard was great. >> geopolitical unrest in the middle east has two themes surfacing today. fragile state of the iraqi government, nothing new, and the looming threat from iran. now, president obama is sending troops to protect the american industry in baghdad as the country's fate really hangs in the balance. it can go one of about five ways and four of them are very, very bad. we'll have more on that, mika, in a minute. first, deadly weather is striking the heartland in a huge way. yesterday, extremely rare twin tornadoes struck nebraska. the omaha world herald's headline looked "like god dragged two fingernails across the land." a 5-year-old was killed and at least 18 more injured. >> oh, my god, look at that picture. >> one of the tornadoes barreled

down main street. the scope of the damage is immense. storm chaser tim reid posted these to instagram. half of the town's businesses were destroyed. the highway patrol has closed all roads entering the town. let's go straight to bill karins now for the latest. how rare is this? >> i haven't met or heard from anyone alive, any meteorologist that has seen anything like this. we've seen ef-5 tornado that is have wiped the landscape clear and tons of stuff from all sorts of severe weather, softball-sized hail. to have two huge tornado that is close to each other, estimated to be a mile apart had never, ever been recorded in our country's history as far as any of us could remember. we had what we called pairing tornadoes, wig huge ones in the middle with little ones around it but never two big ones that close to each other. we're not even sure of the physics of it to see how it's even possible, let alone capture

it on camera. that town of pilger, half the town got taken out because of it. a lot of severe storms through the night. nothing as bad as that video. a lot of damage out there. 400 reports of severe weather damage last night and we still have a threat in the chicago and milwaukee areas. you're under a tornado watch until 9:00 local time. there's still some strong storms rolling through this region. as far as the rest of the country goes, 44 million people today under the risk of severe storms. >> my gosh! look at that. >> these pictures, so many storm chasers out there, flat land. mostly farm land, thankfully. it did hit that small farming town. it looks like it was probably 150 to 200-mile-per-hour winds with those tornadoes and i don't know in our lives, we'll probably never see anything like that again. >> thomas, you lived and reported in nebraska. >> yeah. >> you saw a lot of tornadoes. but, again, as bill karins said, nobody has ever seen this before. >> no, i've never seen anything like that before.

general assignment reporter, also known as a storm chaser, because you would get sent in your car with a camera and chase these things. never saw anything like this before. absolutely amazing. but the people that saw this, the people in pilger, nebraska, had to be absolutely petrified. that's not common. when you see that happening and coming toward you, it's frightening. probably just frozen in your feet. you don't know what to do. >> bill, thank you. we'll check back in with you for a look at the forecast and airport delays to report as well. in other news, problems for gm just keep coming. >> can you believe this? >> no, except that they're probably doing such a thorough review now. and this is what happens when you actually look. >> it's ugly. >> they keep coming for the car maker, recalling another 3.3 million cars because of a faulty key design that could actually shut the car off when it's in motion. no deaths have been attributed to this latest recall but it's similar to the defect that landed gm in hot water earlier

this year. that problem is being blamed for at least 13 deaths and 54 crashes. seven models are included in the latest recall including buick, chevrolet, cadillacs. gm plans to simply rework or replace the keys to prevent inadvertent shutdowns. you know things said on twitter or facebook, some things would never be said to someone's face. >> why do you say that, mika? by the way, you keep your -- i don't know how you do it. you keep your twitter feed up during the show and it is the horrific things that go on all of our twitter feeds. >> i've never seen anything like it. it's almost like sport just to see how mean people can be. >> the only time i've ever seen you flinch is when someone congratulated you on being pregnant. >> that was nice. >> when you were bragging about gaining a few pounds and someone said congratulations on your new pregnancy.

that's the only time i've seen you lose it over there. >> well, it happens. >> it happens. >> the supreme court, though, has agreed to take up a case that may change the way people talk to each other online. the justices will review the conviction of a man who, get this, wrote on his facebook page about killing his wife after their separation. he says the postings helped him deal with the situation and he never posted any true threat. the court will have to decide whether a reasonable person would feel threatened, even if the man would never intend actual violence. the man's attorney says the legal test of reasonable threats don't apply online because it may not be obvious when someone is simply blowing off steam. >> that's absolute garbage. there's so much crap written online. frightening stuff written about -- well, everybody. >> i think there's a couple of new challenges we have to face and the courts are going to have to get involved. the other is google and being able to un -- to forget someone in their searches.

that was a big piece. >> in europe, they're allowing people to have their profiles, if you're searching for yourself, you see something objectionable that you don't want coming up in the curation of your name anymore, you can do something with that. >> the right to be forgotten. a lot of people's lives are being impacted unfairly by these search programs. >> it's absolutely horrific. absolutely horrific. >> these are two cases that i think that one will get to court some day. it already has in smaller ways. i think it will become a huge issue. then you see this on twitter and facebook and the way people are speaking to each other. and i'm looking at teenagers. >> we used to have this distinction between public figures and private figures and all of our lible law applies to public figures and this really throws the law up in the air because there's no distinction between celebrities and normal people. >> courts need to step in.

there's so much -- >> you can't blame it on algori algorithm. >> the libel laws, slander laws, if people say things online that are damaging or hurtful, i think they need to be sued. i think the supreme court needs to step in here. it is outrageous. it's out of control. it doesn't matter whether you're a public figure or a kid in high school or whether you're a girl in middle school and people are picking on you. it's time for some adults to step in. and this whole idea, hey, it's on the internet, so everything is cool. no, it's not cool. that's where we're living in the 21st century and it is time for the courts to step up and start holding people accountable, including google, yahoo! and the other servers that allow a lot of this crap to go up top in their search engines.

if a newspaper put crap at the top of their newspapers that were lies, falsehoods, lies, slanderous, guess what, they would be sued. why can't google -- why can't yahoo! why can't bing, all the other search engines that spread lies about people? >> this is the question they will have to grapple with. is google a publisher or a newsstand? you can't sue a newsstand for displaying the lies that are in -- >> google publishes. >> you have an opinion about that. the courts have not decided that at all. >> the fact of the matter is that google publishes. >> a newsstand decides what is displayed or not displayed on what shelf. >> if you have a "new york times" or usa today, the newsstand doesn't determine what's on the front page of the newspaper.

whereas google does have -- >> they would argue that they're just a disseminator. >> they're dead wrong. because google is the one who determines what your reputation is by what they put on your page, what they put on your page. >> and what keeps -- >> and people are sland eerslan you, lying about you over and over again and google keeps feeding that. especially google, but especially yahoo!. they need to be held accountable. >> as we look at the business model expanding, google glass or they want to get into the smart phone business, we talk about them hiring katie couric to be the global news anchor at yahoo! that redefines they're not the newsstand selling some gum and some papers. they're redefining their brand. there's a more seriousness that comes along with that. what's the product? >> do they sell beef jerky, too? >> no. >> i love beef jerky.

>> let's get to the big story of the day, though that's fascinating and we should revisit this. >> what john is saying. the iraqi government is focused on stamping out the insurgency there, but not by the tactics favored by the obama administration. the u.s. forces for political reconciliation, nuri al maliki is paying far more attention to the militant fighters, spending most of his time on war strategy and not on efforts to bring together the competing sides. members of his inner circle are wearing military uniforms instead of civilian clothes. >> what a clown. >> meanwhile, president obama is boosting security at the u.s. embassy in baghdad by deploying an extra 275 military personnel. outside of the capital, the fighting continues with the sunni terror group taking new ground. it's something that the shiite leadership in iran has that

leadership in iran on edge, raising the potential of the u.s. and tehran working together to solve the crisis. secretary of state kerry spoke about that yesterday. >> something constructive that can be contribute bid iran, if they're going to do something that will respect the sovereignty of iraq and the ability of the government to reform. >> can you see cooperating with iran militarily? >> at this moment, i think we need to go step by step and see what, in fact, might be a reality. but i wouldn't rule out anything that would be constructive to providing real stability, a respect for the constitution, a respect for the election process and a respect for the ability of the iraqi people to form a government that represents all of the interests of iraq. >> reports out yesterday 275

troops, the white house decided to send over to protect the embassy. i can't help but think that's just the beginning of a process, if more troops are needed. there were reports last night that maybe 500 marines going over as well, sitting on a ship in the persian gulf. you can't help but think this is just the beginning of president obama sending over as many troops as he needs to send over to bring stability to this country. >> right. so far we're hearing about this in small numbers, 275 troops in security and support largely of the u.s. embassy. there's talk about putting troops on some kind of carrier in the region and there's discussion about sending u.s. special forces in to do training of iraqi forces. you're looking at possibly 100 there. when you start to add up these numbers, you could conceivably end up with over 1,000. you could possibly end up with a few thousand and then you're looking at a situation where you may end up with the same number of americans on the ground in iraq, as we may have had had we

had a bilateral security agreement at the end of 2011. >> i suspect, gene robinson, that's where we're going to end up. we're going to end up doing that for a clown, rodeo clown in maliki, now putting himself in a clown's uniform. the only reason he's in a military uniform and has a very good chance of being caught and hung, just like saddam hussein, is because he ignored americans for years. the obama administration and before that the bush administration, trying to get him to bring sunnis and kurds into the government. >> absolutely. and he refuses to do it. not only does he not bring them into the government, but he has governed in a way that sends an unmistakable signal to the sunnis and the kurds. shiites are in charge. you guys deal with it. he has ruled in a sectarian way. but my friend and competitor, tom friedman from "the new york times" wrote a great line the other day, which is we should

keep in mind that in this case, the enemy of my enemy is still my enemy. and if we start sending troops, even in small numbers to aid the maliki government, just remember, we are fighting alongside the iranians, who are sending troops for the same purpose. and while the white house has ruled out military cooperation, i don't know how they do this without at least some military coordination with iran, which is doing exactly the same thing. this is a really, really messy situation. and i think the white house should be really careful about, you know, getting more involved. >> still ahead, kids and caffeine. would even the smallest amounts of caffeine does to our children's bodies. >> you've seen kids. >> i'm actually worried about my own. >> you've seen kids line up at dunkin' donuts. it's unbelievable, these kids. like 9, 10-year-old kids

starting to drink coffee. >> and i believe that coffee is especially strong compared to other coffee. dr. nancy snyderman has the surprising new study. first, bill karins with a check on the forecast. bill? >> stormy forecast. showed you the tornadoes earlier. our friends in south dakota, southern minnesota and northwestern iowa are suffering from devastating flooding. all these complexes going over the same locations. tornadoes like we saw yesterday. the rains have been relentless and the pictures now coming in are showing the results of that. hour till the water receded. neighborhoods under water and the river is peeking later today into tomorrow. there's more storms on the way. if they get more rain then all bets are off. how much rain? imagine this. 13" of rain so far in june, that's in 17 days, almost an inch a day.

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$30,000 for a girl who was kicked out of their restaurant. she was reportedly asked to leave for, quote, disturbing the other patrons. what beasts -- >> i don't know. >> -- run that restaurant? >> i don't know. >> the allegations, kfc -- after the allegations, kfc launched this investigation and then apologized for their actions. that's horrible. >> i can't even believe it. i'm glad that something is being done. the daily mail, hackers are holding hundreds of thousands of passwords ransom in exchange for cash. the criminals hacked the data from domino's pizza customers in france and belgium. >> domino's pizza in france? >> i guess so. >> i can visit now. >> in an anonymous tweet, hackers say they won't release the information unless the pizza chain pays them $40,000 in cash, full names, addresses, phone

numbers and e-mail addresses. stars of duck dynasty running for congress in louisiana. republican jack dash will challenge mcallister, who was reportedly caught on tape kissing a staff member for about five hours. it's unclear whether he will run again. the popular and controversial amc show -- call us the caffeine generation. in nearly everything we eat and drink these days and our kids are consuming it more than ever before. high levels of caffeine in children's diets is now raising some serious red flags in the health community. here is dr. nancy snyderman. >> wee! >> tara and mitch lieberman say their boys have so much energy -- >> here's water. >> they carefully limit the amount of caffeine their kids consume. >> it's healthier to give them juices with low sugar amounts,

water, milk, stuff like that. >> caffeine is hard to avoid these days. no longer just in coffee, tea and colas, it's now added to many new products from energy drinks to snacks and candy. caffeine raises blood pressure and lowers heart rate, today's study in the journal of pediatrics tells us how it affects boys and girls differently after puberty. the impact of even small amounts of caffeine on children's ages 8 to 9 and 15 to 17. the younger kids got approximately the caffeine equivalent of half to a full can of soda. the teens got one to two cans with. the teenage boys experienced slightly higher blood pressure levels than the girls. researchers in this study aren't sure why teenage boys are more sensitive to caffeine, but suspect it may have to do with

hormones. and another concern? the effect of caffeine on millions of kids with other medical issues, like adhd. >> if you take other medications, behavioral medications, this could be a big problem. it is something that has a biological affect on our bodies and you have to be careful. up next, political double speak from both parties over nine years of the war in iraq. who said what, when and why it matters now? >> i've seen part of this package. this is something that a lot of politicians don't want to see. >> it's going to be difficult for -- >> including hillary clinton. >> yeah. >> oh, my gosh. >> that's next on "morning joe."

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welcome back, everybody. president kennedy once said that victory has 100 fathers and defeat is an orphan. that same lesson still applies today as the situation in iraq deteriorates. once more, few will claim credit. many bear the burden for responsibility as to what has gone wrong. mika has more. >> 11 years ago, as a condition

for ending the persian gulf war, the iraqi regime was required to destroy its weapons of mass destruction. it possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. it is seeking nuclear weapons. >> the cause for the war in iraq was on solid ground. the president's own cia director assured him, making the case for weapons of mass destruction was a slam dunk. >> saddam hussein and his regime are concealing their efforts to produce more weapons of mass destruction. my colleagues, every statement i make today is backed up by sources, solid sources. >> and liberating iraq, it was said, would be a cake walk. it would even help to transform the middle east. >> i believe the most significant cost associated with iraq, which is very, very difficult to estimate, is the cost of doing nothing. >> success in iraq could also begin a new stage for middle eastern peace and set in motion progress towards a truly

democratic palestinian state. >> things went smoothly at the outset with public opinion shifting toward war, convincing the senate came easily. >> we need to be sure that the president has the authority to address what is a very serious threat from saddam hussein. >> but if left unchecked, saddam hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. >> and the will he has shown to use them makes the none at all option unacceptable. >> the invasion was decisive. less than a month after the first bombs fell, major combat operations were declared over as saddam hussein's hometown was captured almost effortlessly. by the next year, the americans were transferring power back to the iraqis. let freedom reign president bush wrote in a note from condoleezza

ric rice. >> trying to stop sectarian killings in baghdad for a week. last night the bombers struck again. people blame the carnage on the u.s. and the iraqi government for not providing better security. >> by the summer of 2006, sectarian violence was flaring, despite cooperation between american and iraqi forces. in june more than 100 civilians were killed every day. by year's end, 34,000 were dead. president bush announced a surge of 20,000 american forces but it was met with resistance at home. >> i think it is dangerously irresponsible to continue to put american lives in the middle of a clearly defined tribal sectarian civil war. >> i am not persuaded that 20,000 additional troops in iraq is going to solve the sectarian violence there.

in fact, i think it will do the reverse. >> he is taking troops away from afghanistan, where i think we need to be putting more troops and sending them to iraq on a mission that i think has a very limited, if any, chance for success. >> the surge reclaimed american gains, but at a heavy cost. general david petraeus urged congress to let the troops stay longer, calling the progress fragile and reversible. anti-war groups pushed back, running this full ad in "the new york times" and the surge became a political football in the presidential race. >> that the military side of this surge works, it has brought down violence. we went from drowning to treading water. >> it might well be irresponsible to continue the policy that has not produced the results that have been promised time and time again. >> the promise of withdrawal of our forces, regardless of the consequences, would constitute a failure of political and moral

leadership. >> then senator obama campaigned on bringing home american troops from two now unpopular wars. >> i will give our military a new mission on my first day in office, ending this war. let me be clear. we must be as careful as getting out of iraq as we were careless getting in. >> many called for leaving a small force behind. but with president obama in the oval office by the winter of 2011, america had all but left. >> we're leaving behind a sovereign, stable and self reliant iraq, with a representative government that was elected by its people. >> i mean, it's unbelievable. iraq has made fools of everybody. >> the left, the right, the center, at different times. >> everybody get it is wrong. hillary got it wrong at the start. she got the surge wrong. president obama got it right at the beginning.

he got it wrong at the end. he said we have to be as careful getting out as we were getting in. and he said -- you almost wanted to see the mission accomplished sign behind him when he said we're leaving behind a sovereign, stable and self reliant iraq. i mean, this country has made fools of everybody. >> when we think about what isis is doing, this is a group coming in from syria to inject chaos into what is, you know, a seated democracy, technically, the fact that iraqis have turned down now six free elections. u.s. embassy there in baghdad, 5,000 u.s. personnel in baghdad, the largest diplomatic post in the world. america does have an interest in what's taking place in that country. the idea of us getting back in, into the sectarian violence that has gone on, you know, since well before any of our modern

day leaders decided to get involved, it doesn't mean that our involvement now going forward, as we were hearing the other day from paul bremmer, that -- >> we can't be the only one doing this. >> no. >> everybody has to take the next step humbly. if anybody thinks now is the time to rub the president's nose in the words that he said, i'll see you the words that president bush said and others have said, including myself in 2003 and 2004. we've all made mistakes. iraq has made fools outd of us all. here is a great idea. why don't we work together and get a bipartisan solution? i would love to see the president of the united states call the top liberals, call john mccain, call people like bill crystal, call others to the white house and say, okay, guys, we've all screwed up. what do we do now to bring

stability to the middle east and, like the daily news is saying, what do we do now to stop al qaeda from having their own country at the heart of the middle east? >> your other big point about not only reaching out to the allies and getting the wagons encircled, but europe. they cannot continue to just stand idly by and not want to be involved in an issue that is an international problem. >> we've carried europe's water for so long now. we did it from 1945 to 1991. and it's not the end of history. europe needs to step forward. why should it just be the united states carrying the world around? everybody knows this is extraordinarily dangerous. it's time for europe to stop sleep walking, whether we're talking about ukraine or whether we're talking about what's going on right now. coming up next, the united states fights through broken noses and pulled hamstrings.

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individuals. one of the reasons donovan didn't go, he wanted this team spirit and the team strength. that has come through. they fought hard, battled hard. clint broke his nose. this is an honest, tough group of kids. not necessarily the most talented group of kids in the tournament. these kids are going to fight and fight all the way. >> the reason we thought the u.s. had to win this game is they are in the group of death and portugal and germany are coming up. is portugal really overrated or is germany that good? >> germany are that good. you look at portugal, their body language, never showed up. he has been injured. they were fighting amongst themselves. we may be playing the portuguese team that's demoralized or -- >> by the way, there's a portuguese team that barely got into the world cup. they just barely scraped in. i just don't think they're as good as everybody has been saying. if we draw with portugal, we're

through. >> i think we're going to -- >> we should go through. this team is well disciplined, well organized. >> i have to ask you today, the crazy game today will be brazil, mexico. >> fantastic game. >> mexico has a shot? >> mexico has got a shot. i think they'll lose but they're still going to get through. they played really well the first game. >> let me ask you, are the fifa officials going to have to fix every game from brazil? >> those decisions were atrocious. it may cost mexico. those goals allowed from the mexico standpoint. >> mexico got screwed. >> played good soccer and played well. we'll see. >> do you have any prediction over who -- >> i thought germany yesterday. >> come back tomorrow. >> i'll be here. >> the header. oh, we win, yea! coming up next, fortune ceo takes on a new challenge, only female apple board member and

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good to have you. andrea jong, president and ceo. a lot to talk about here and, this is not an understatement, saving the word. when you invest in women, you find so many other things happen. first of all, the role for the ambassador at large for women, where do you begin? where do you begin? >> there's so much to do, to be sure. today, women are on the front lines of change all over the world. sometimes they're pushed back but they're really pushing ahead and making the kinds of progress, not just for themselves, but this is not just a women's issue. this is for, as you said, mika, it's for men. it's for girls and boys about the kind of world we want to see. today they're especially doing that in terms of economic participation. >> this is where andrea jong comes in. you have recently taken over. >> yes. >> investing women, the number

of levels and how to lift them up. how will you make changes or change direction on this? how will you make this more effect i effective? >> you know, in 2008, grameen america began here. whether it would have impact in the most developed nation. the proof of concept over the last six years has been exciting. grameen america is now sustainable and has reached over 28,000 borrowers, over $150 million of loans, $202,000 is the average loan for a woman in poverty. it's interesting to see the impact of those loans all over the united states. >> ambassador, this is why i think we can actually see a sea change for women in the future, if we have more concepts like microfinancing spreading, you will see women lifting up and getting into the higher levels,

i think, of companies as well. we have to start somewhere. >> that's exactly right, mika. one of the things we know today is that women are the vital force in terms of economic growth and powering our economies, creating the kind of inclusive prosperity we all want to see and creating jobs. we know, because we've got a wealth of data today that really is an evidence-based case. and that is, women control over 75% of purchasing power. >> yep. >> for small and medium sized businesses. the accelerants of growth. they are spending their income in the ways that plow resources back into their families and communities. they raise the standard of living. everything we know is an indication of just how powerful this force is. >> it's amazing it's taken so long. thomas, to add to her numbers, it's interesting that they chose that women are more likely than men, no offense, to put back

into their communities for some reason. and i think the reasons are clear. but it's data that is a business model. >> the ambassador's statement about that and what grameen is doing with that data. specific points is that loans given to women instead of men. they're used more wisely in terms of how, as mika is pointing out, they're put back into the community, how that money is spent, especially when it comes to family involvement. and households headed by women. talk about the empowerment that you're hoping this is seeding for the years to come. this is not just about raising young women to be empowered but raising young men to recognize the empowerment of the women figures in their lives so when they grow up, they realize that men and women are on equal footing when it comes to financial issues and growth. >> access to financial capital and financial identity for women are so important. at grameen, not only are you

allowed to get access to a loan, you can build a credit score, open an account where you haven't had banking before. to your point, one in three female, single female headed households is in poverty today and offering them the opportunity to be the engine for growth for the united states economy is really important. >> we talk a year from now. what are your goals? >> hopefully, that we'll expand, double the number of branches by 2016 and we'll have 38 branches all across the united states really becoming the solution to all the issues in the nation. >> andrea jung, melanie verveer, miss ambassador, thank you for joining us. if it's way too early, it's "morning joe." chuck todd with the daily rundown is next on msnbc. when laquinta.com sends him a ready for you alert the second his room is ready, ya know what salesman alan ames becomes? i think the numbers speak for themselves.

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