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win for the u.s. in the world cup. it's all coming up right here. i am krystal ball. ronan is out on assignment. we begin with the terror attacks on the consulate in benghazi back in september of 2012. nbc news has just learned one of the suspected ringleaders was captured in a secret raid in libya over the weekend and in just two hours from now fbi director will make the official announcement. nbc justice correspondent pete williams joins me live with the details. what do we know at this point? >> i think we are beyond what you said. there's official confirmation now. the president made a statement about it. the attorney general said it shows that the u.s. will do whatever it takes to bring those responsible to benghazi -- for the attack to justice.
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and he says -- this is eric holder, the attorney general, we retain the option of adding additional charges in the coming days as we work to identify, as well, and arrest any of his co-conspirators. officials say it happened on the weekend on sunday in libya, an effort by u.s. special forces aided by the fbi to arrest this man we've known of for so long, ahmed abu khattala, accused of being one of the co-conspirators, ringleaders, master mind if you will on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. he had actually been designated a terrorist in january by the state department which called him a senior leader of the benghazi branch of ansar al shariah, the terror group the government blamed for the attack. the criminal charges were actually filed last year in july of 2013 and were just unsealed by the federal judge who's responsible for the case here in
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washington and that cheens that he will undoubtedly the u.s. will try to bring him here to face charges. being questioned now and we don't know when he'll be brought here but that's the plan. >> good news there. pete williams, thank you so much. >> you bet. now to today's other big news. american troops going back to baghdad. up to 275 u.s. military personnel could be deploying to iraq with isis fighters moving closer to the capital. the troops mission to secure the u.s. embassy n. a letter to congress, president obama said, quote, this force will be in iraq until the situation situation is such that it's no longer needed. the sunni insurgents hold a large chunk of ter toy across northern iraq. you can see on the map the cities they're now in control of and the insurgent forces are making a play for baqubah. it's a city that's key to any isis effort to potentially take the capital city of baghdad. let's get the latest on the
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ground in iraq from foreign i do not amman mohyeldin. >> reporter: it is northeast of the capital baghdad and sits on the same highway that links the two cities together. if they're able to overrun baqubah and bring it under its control, it's symbolically important because it's the capital of the diyala province and a short drive into the capital baghdad. they can then use baqubah as a staging ground for trying to launch the type of attacks they would need to if they wanted to create havoc in the capital or perms some point try to overrun the city or parts of the city. but for the time being, the iraqi army says they have been capable of repelling any isis attempts to overtake baqubah but that's the scene of intense fighting and an incident at police station that left 44 detainees killed and been trade
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of accusations of both sides who's responsible for this. >> nbc's ayman, thank you so much for that report. one day after secretary of state john kerry opened the door with responsible engagement with iran, some members of congress are pushing back. here with bob menendez earlier. >> we have to both think about whether or not there's targeted and limited in duration strikes that may be able to change the tide and also i hope the administration is not thinking about engaging iran. it was iran that trained shia militia and many of the wounded warriors bare the scars of. >> could political engagement with iran be a necessary evil to end the crisis in iraq? joining me from the council of foreign relations is richard haas author of "war of necessary, war of choice." thank you for joining us today.
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>> good to be here. >> first i want to ask you about the breaking news we just covered at the top of the hour, an arrest of a suspected ringleader in the benghazi attack. >> look, it's always satisfying when you bring people to justice and good to take dangerous people off the streets so he can't commit further acts of terrorism. the problem is, though, libya is essentially a failed state in large part and his former colleagues and lots more like him are able to use libya to mount terrorist attacks against other countries in the region or conceivably globally. so again, as good as this news is, we shouldn't kid ourselves. libya remains a very dangerous place. >> richard, obviously the president and the president's administration has been criticized a lot over benghazi and criticized more broadly recently for the approach to foreign affairs. is this a win for the administration? >> well, again, crystal, it's always good with osama bin
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laden, it was satisfying. didn't undo the tragedy of 9/11. doesn't erase the terrorist threat you face. but it's -- it's, if you will, it's good to win a battle in this much larger war. >> absolutely. all right. switching gears to iraq, paul wolfowitz, former defense secretary and infamously an architects of the iraq war said this earlier to nbc's chuck todd. >> doesn't matter that much if iraq ends up in different pieces. frankly, i think the most likely result is much greater autonomy an one of malaki's big mistakes is trying to dominate the sunni areas and not giving them autono autonomy. >> he sees partition of iraq as a real responsibility and with another ten years under saddam hussein, iraq would be an even more broken country. do you think that's right? >> well, to stay with the first part, even more than partition, i think you are going to see the break-up or dismantlement of
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iraq. partition sounds too clean and neat for what we'll see. we will have the south and baghdad under the control essentially of iran. mr. malaki is serving iranian interest. the shia plurality or majority in iraq will live in that area. the kurds in the north are going to have what will amount to be their own state within iraqi borders and then you will have this area where sunnis will live, groups like isis will operate and that will be something of the no man's land. that will be an area where you will not have clear state authority. but that is the future of iraq. would this have happened had saddam hussein remained in power? i think not because saddam hussein essentially maintained order in iraq through extreme forms of repression. you know? he would have, however, at some point met a natural or unnatural death and what would have happened in the aftermath and sunni strong man would have
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taken over or whether you would have had an evolutionary situation, your guess is as good as mine. we'll never know. >> richard, there's obviously uncomfortable dynamics at play here for the u.s. the possibility of negotiating with iran and we don't have the best relationship with. there's also the sectarian dynamics, obviously, malaki is representative of the shias. he's been very exclusionary of the sunni minority, a large chunk of iraqi society. if we were going to go forward with limited air strikes, would that be viewed regionally as us coming in on behalf of the shias versus the sunnis? >> a lot depends on the scale and the purpose of the strikes were. if we simply do strikes against terrorists, we do that probably more in more than a dozen countries and to me would not have the sort of regional political repercussions. if we looked as though we were
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looking to shore up a dominated government in the rest of the country, that causes heartburn in significant parts of the middle east. >> all right. richard, thank you so much for your insight. >> thank you. beyond combat, what could a greater military involvement in iraq look like? joining me is retired control knell peter monsoor who served in "operation iraqi freedom." thank you for joining us. there's reports that the president is considering special forces sent to help in iraq but beyond combat which the white house is ruling out, what purpose could those forces serve? >> well, they could serve as advisers and trainers to the iraqi security forces in areas away from the front line and help them hone their combat skills. although the numbers the president's talking about at least i have seen, 100 or fewer really wouldn't be enough to do a lot of good. more smoke than fire. >> it is a little bit symbolic,
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that move? >> exactly. an it shows that we would be in support of the iraqi government, which i think might be a mistake at this point, actually. >> so colonel, if we did go forward with air strikes beyond the force that is are -- the couple hundred forces sent there now, if we went forward with air strikes, what would happen next? what would be sort of -- what would unfold after we did that? >> air strikes could potentially blunt any offensive towards baghdad which would put the situation in iraq into a status where isil is in charge of the third of the country in the north and west and kurds in the north and iraqi government has the rest. at that point, there will be a lot of combat in mixed areas like baqubah and samarrah and other places where the front lines meet, and this is a recipe for a very lengthy and bloody civil war and why i think we should do everything we can to avoid that future.
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>> yeah, absolutely. we have also been talking about the arrest of one of the suspected ringleaders of the benghazi attack. how significant do you think that is for the u.s.? >> you know, it shows that the united states is going to take whatever time it takes and put whatever resources are necessary into finding the people that kill our citizens. and it shows credibility on the part of the united states that we will hunt you down and we'll kill or capture you and bring you to justice. i think it's a positive development. >> all right. retired colonel peter monsoor, thank you so much. >> thank you. up next, a double tornado slams into a tiny nebraska town and as you can imagine, the aftermath is just heart breaking. we are live with the latest on that after the break. ♪
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now to developing news. total devastation. those are words being used to describe the damage in a small town in nebraska, damage done by the almost impossible-to believe sight. twin tornadoes in pilger simultaneously baffling even seasoned storm chasers. >> there's the other -- >> man. >> the other tornado. oh gosh. >> the result, one person dead, 75% of the town just gone. 100% of its businesses destroyed. the same storm that spawned those tornadoes brought record rain fall to south dakota turning the busiest highway into a river. shutting it down overnight. we want to begin with that rare weather event in nebraska and those two tornadoes, the weather channel's mike seidel is live in pilger.
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have you ever seen anything like this before? >> reporter: i've never seen it videotaped or photographed that well. we had this situation back in the palm sunday 1965 outbreak but to see it that close on -- high definition, just awe inspiring and basically jaw dropping. we were watching this live at the weather channel. just amazing. unfortunately, what is not amazing is the power of a twister did. we're on the southwest side of the town of pilger -- i'm sorry. i've been up like 30 hours. sometimes it goes -- it came from this side right on through town and before it hit, the main part of town, it took out this house. you can see the foundation, what's left of it. part of a basement. the entire -- the entire home is sitting right there in a big pile of debris. the tornado went southwest to northeast at most twisters do this. this is a small town, one square
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mile and almost see to the other end and only people there are residents until 5:00 and can't drive in. the heavy equipment comes in tomorrow. first fatality of a tornado in nebraska since 2004. just about ten years ago. pilger is getting the cleanup process under way and under a sunny sky and more storms in the forecast tomorrow and the following day. hopefully, nothing like we have seen here. this is -- this is a bad tornado. we'll get the rating from the national weather service later today. >> the scene looks just devastating. mike seidel, thank you so much. is the tea party about to fall into a trap set by washington's republican establishment? right now, house republicans are getting ready to elect a new majority leader on thursday. the ousting of current majority leader eric cantor in last week's stunning virginia primary supposed to be the tea party's big triumph this year and now the taste of victory may be turning to ashes for the far right because the man most likely to replace cantor is
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congressman kevin mccarthy and not exactly an anti-establishment type either. so far, the strongest challenge to mccarthy seems to be coming from two-term idaho congressman and tea party darling raul labrador. >> a lot of people are switching their votes and excited about having somebody challenging the establishment right now. just -- it's important for us to show that we need a new direction in the party. >> joining us now to help us understand this leadership battle is congressman jerry conley from virginia and know it is politics of that state an he's a democrat who serves on capitol hill and knows about these leadership races in the house. congressman, thank you so much for joining us. >> great to be with you. >> so it is looking like kevin mccarthy is the likely successor as majority leader to eric cantor and he may well also be the next speaker of the house. do you think that a kevin mccarthy-led house looks substantisu
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substantively different than the boehner-cantor led snous. >> no. he represents continuity and as you suggested in the intro, in many ways tea party hopes turned to ashes, at least internally in terms of leadership on the republican caucus. >> now, on the other hand, tea party hopes have been effective of blocking progress in washington, so is a change in leadership going to be -- going the lead to any sort of change in what's able to be accomplished there on capitol hill? >> no. not particularly. and especially between now and, say, november, december whether there's the next round of leadership elections for the next congress. i just think that the current leadership is going to have to tread very carefully if it wants to get re-elected after the midterm elections so i don't see much productive happening, frankly, between now and the lame duck session. >> there's been a big debate over why exactly eric cantor lost his primary, basically no one predicted that was going to happen, myself included.
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and some have mentioned immigration as a possible key. oerls like me say maybe it had to do with cantor's ties to wall street, his opponent attacked him on. as a virginian, someone that knows eric cantor, what do you think was the biggest reason for his defeat? >> yeah. i think the immigration argument is frankly not accurate. certainly an issue that was used against cantor. but the real problem was cantor's -- cantor's weakness as a candidate. he was rusty. he had totally unreliable polling. he didn't have a reliable field organization. he was heavy handed in his media and named his opponent which just helped those who were disgruntled know who to vote for. it was a very ham handed re-election effort by somebody that wasn't used to, you know, ground combat terms of elections and it showed on election day. i think there was a ground swell of discontent that goes far
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beyond immigration as an issue. >> i think also voters perceived a sense of entitlement to the seat. >> yeah. >> which is never a good thing. but as democrats are analyzing that race, do you think there's any sort of cautionary tales or warning signs there for the democratic party? >> well, you know, you got to stay in touch. you have to make sure that you're back home with the folks as often as you can be. you want to make sure that you're always showing a certain sense of humility about public office as opposed to entitlement as you suggest but i really think the threat's much greater on the republican side of the aisle. that's got to be a wake-up call to entrenched incumbents on the republican side there's a grassroots movement on your side among your base that's really unhappy with incumbency and entrenched politicians. >> yeah. i think there's a streak bubbling on both sides of the aisle, though, frankly. thank you so much. >> great to be with you.
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just ahead on today's show, angelina jolie called the world's attention to a global shame and now picking up the baton and asking the question, what can the u.s. do about it? our call to action continues with a female lawmaker who's on the front lines. that's next. [ female announcer ] there's a gap out there.
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i don't think there's a perfect example of extraordinary leadership to break through the stalemate of what's happening in the world today when it comes to intervening, assisting innocent people. it is a much bigger situation. >> that was angelina jolie in an interview with ronan farrow on friday at the global summit to end sexual assault in conflict. how about the u.s.? could we do more to abolish rape as a tool of war? 1 in 3 women worldwide will be physically, sexually or otherwise abused in her lifetime with rates more than 60% in bolivia, ethiopia and the congo and 48 women are raped every single hour. the numbers are just absolutely horrifying. is there a possible solution? just sitting on capitol hill. it's called the international violence against women act and transform this fight into a
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diplomatic priority for the u.s. joining me now is congresswoman januarykuwski of illinois. thank you for joining us. first of all, if you could just tell us what this bill would do that others before it have not already done. >> first of all, it would make permanent the ambassador for global women's issues and the office of global women's issues in the state department. but what we would do is target at least five countries where violence is a serious problem and try to provide services like health services for survivors, legal counsel and services and assistance for groups already there and doing anti-violence kind of work. and we know when violence against women, suppression of women is reduced we have communities and countries more prosperous, healthier, girls can go to school without fear of
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some sort of asid attack or being shot. so this would make ate -- something we think about dealing with international relations of countries around the world and often something too often ignored and swept under the rug. >> sounds like something everyone should be on board with and yet we know down there in capitol hill nothing is quite that easy. prognosis of the house bill is that it only has a 1% chance of passage. senator boxer's companion bill in the senate about 15% chance. who could be opposed to this bill? >> well, we do have bipartisan support. 56 co-sponsors so far. a dozen republicans on the bill, as well. i actually do think that if we gather enough co-sponsors of this legislation, look, krystal, we pass bills every day. sometimes two minutes to vote. we would have the time if we get enough support and it is not
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controversial. in fact, to tell you the truth, we don't even add additional money. the international violence against women act would coordinate existing programs that we are already have. but it would raise this issue to the top of the pile when we're thinking about diplomacy. i'm not giving up on it. >> yeah. well, makes a lot of sense to me but one criticism that's leveled at the bill is by author wendy mccalvoy says it aims to change attitudes, social norms and law enforcement of other societies to reflect western values and other nation's resent such attempts and resist violently. what's your response to that criticism? >> many places i think we could work with the governments. many governments have already outlawed female genital mutilation, for example. and yet, it's practiced in communities. we could work with them to help to change the norms, to find other rituals that could replace
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female genital mutilation. work with country that is want to create more educational opportunities and economic opportunities. you know, we have great success when women are able to start their own businesses, even with microloans and we could help to raise women out of the situations they're in and improve the economies of the nations. so often we'll be in situations of we could work with the governments. >> absolutely. women's rights are human rights. we should be supporting them not just here at home, but around the world. thank you for taking the lead on this. >> thank you. >> for this week's call to action, we are asking you to join the u.n.'s initiative to get cross and end sexual violence as a weapon of war. take a photo of yourself showing the crossed arm symbol and add it to the map to help spread the word. there's mine and ronan's.
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be sure to tweet us with #time to act. nicole kidman and others are doing it, too. rape as a tool of war has been called one of the great mass crimes of the 20th and 21st century. i couldn't agree more. let's make sure it doesn't cross into the 22nd. coming up next, team usa gives a gutsy performance in its first game at the world cup. was it a defining moment or just a brief taste of victory before the inevitable agony of defeat? we are live from brazil after the break.
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yes! it went in. whoo! that's right, ghana. that's right. >> i love that guy. all right. that's just one fan's reaction. of course, but it was a huge game last night for the u.s. soccer team. with a dramatic end of game goal, the u.s. beat ghana 2-1 in the first match of the world cup. substitute john brooks just 21 years old received a corner kick and headed the ball into the bottom of the goal to take the lead and the eventual win. u.s. coach jurgen klinsmann. >> we'll get some chances still. we are still in the game after the equalizer. just need to kind of push and push and grind it out. that's what they did. here comes a set piece. we train over and over that stuff and puts it in. well deserved. we have a great spirit and always the u.s. team always has
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a great spirit and fights until the last second. >> it was a grind but it was -- a wonderful one of an end of the day. >> it gives the u.s. a lead. joining me now from brazil is jimmy conrad and member of the u.s. world cup team. jimmy, the u.s. scored the first goal in the first minute of the game and then the winning one right near the end. it was pretty exciting. >> oh, very exciting. it wasn't the mosts a thetically pleasing game but there's a thin line between success and failure at the world cup and the big play by dempsey and brooks and howard in goal. we need him hot to have the success and a huge three points. >> the other two teams in the group, portugal and germany, they are going to be pretty tough. which one do you think the u.s. will have more trouble with? >> i'm going to take portugal. >> really?
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>> only because they were embarrassed yesterday by germany 4-0. they lost two of the top defenders. one to a red card and another guy, very key to them on the left side. ronaldo, didn't play very well and want to totally redeem themselves in the game against the u.s. germany, probably beat ghana, they have a two wins and that would be easier game for us. >> there were two u.s. players who were injured during the game. do you have an update on their status? >> i'm not a doctor. but based on how -- clutching his hamstring, right after the play happened, looked like an olympic track star pulled the hammy and really, really tight and expect him out for the rest of the tournament or two weeks. an niggle. i think that's probably of a day-to-day thing. which actually allowed john brooks to come in the game and
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coming in and clint dempsey broke his nose and will have that figured out. we'll end up having to see what ends up happening with his status. >> one of the thing that is's so fun about the world cup for the u.s. is the fact that we get to be the underdog and the fans here have just been absolutely amazing. >> they have been amazing. i got to sit in the middle of the american outlaws last night and i had my fan on and had a blast. really passionate about the team. they've been chanting all game. i had a few beers spilled on me so excited at the end. it was a good time. >> sacrifice well wort making. jimmy conrad, our own world cup correspondent, great talking with you. thank you so much. and up next, capitol hill heating up with plenty of reaction to some breaking news. the arrest of a key player in the benghazi attacks of two years ago. we will have that for you next.
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welcome back. we are looking at a live shot there of president obama in pittsburgh, about to deliver remarks on the economy and take some questions from the audience. this follow it is visit to a workshop center designed to give inventers the space and tools like 3d printers to design and build prototypes part of the president's focus to create jobs. let's take a listen. >> but before we do that, with the press here, i want to make a quick comment on some news of the day that some of you may have heard. we are all aware of the tragedy that happened in benghazi where four americans including our ambassador there, chris stevens, was killed in an attack on a consulate office there. i said at the time that my absolute commitment was to make sure that we brought to justice those who had been responsible.
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and yesterday our special forces showing incredible courage and precision were able to capture an individual, ahmed abu khattala, who is alleged to have been one of the master minds of the attack. [ applause ] he is now being transported back to the united states. i say that, first of all, because, you know, we continue to think about and pray for the families of those who were killed during that terrible attack. but more importantly, it's important for us to send a message to the world that when americans are attacked, no matter how long it takes we will find those responsible and we'll bring them to justice. and that's a message i said the day after it happened and regardless of how long it takes,
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we will find you. and i want to make sure that everybody around the world hears that message very clearly because my first and most solemn duty as president and commander in chief is to keep the american people safe. and there are a lot of dangers throughout and a lot of challenges and our diplomats serve with incredible courage and valor in some very difficult situations. they need to know that this country has their back and will always go after anybody who goes after us. now, with that in mind, let me get to the point of this gathering here today. i want to thank mark and jim for the great work that they have done in helping to set up tech shop and the reason we wanted to come out here was we've made enormous progress over the last several years in --
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>> that was president obama speaking about the u.s. arresting a suspected ringleader of the 2012 benghazi attack that killed ambassador stevens, reaction has been pouring in from capitol hill as you would expect. much of it praising the military but republicans not quick to give president obama any credit. republican senator kelly ayotte saying rather than rushing to read the suspect his miranda rights and a right to remain silent, the hope the administration will focus on collecting intelligence necessary to prevent future attacks. speaker john boehner said i'm grateful for the work of the military and assisted by the fbi capturing him. i expect them to give them the professionals time to gather useful intelligence he has. joining me now, howard fineman, nbc news political analyst and robert costa, that inspector generalal political reporter at "the washington post." thank you both so much for
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joining me. howard, i want to start with you. does this capture take away a sort of key talking point for republicans? >> well, it takes away a talking point and the republicans in their relentless search for other talking points related to benghazi will make the point they just made that you quoted about let's make sure we get all the intel out of this guy and not treat him like a regular suspect. >> does that mean torture? what does that mean? >> i don't know what they have in mind. somebody should ask them, i suppose. beyond that they'll say i'm sure the republicans will focus on the administration and how it misspoke and didn't know what was going on in benghazi. what was a ringleader of? you have to understand that the questions will never end on benghazi but i think this is certainly a good stroke for the president, for the administration, certainly for the military and the fbi. i would also add that the
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president's admonition to come after you no matter what against the backdrop of deciding to send 275 marines to iraq to protect the american embassy there and the american there is and the fact that the state department in late may ordered americans out of -- told americans to leave libya because the situation is so dangerous there. >> robert, senator feinstein released a statement supporting the efforts of trying ahmed abu khattala in federal court and convicted over 500 terrorists since 9/11 and you know washington republicans very well. can you explain why they have a huge problem of using our own justice system to go forward and prosecute terrorists? >> you have seen members of both parties today celebrate the news but there is a question, an open debate here on capitol hill, about what's next. senator mccain and other republicans saying that the suspect should be brought to guantanamo bay and a military trial there. some democrats as you say have
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supported the administration's efforts perhaps bring him to federal court. this is the fault line. this is where the acromony will be. >> we have seen the debate over guantanamo bay. is that where we're headed with this? >> yeah. i think this will once again renew the urgency of questions of guantanamo, about the military justice system and the president's decision where possible to push use of the federal courts and the traditional federal process. he's got some constitutional law on his side, for sure. but again, the point i think is that the republicans believe that if they're going to sort of undermine the president's achievements as it relates to 0 is a many bin laden, as it relates to drone strikes, et cetera, that aspect of his role, they're going to go after
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benghazi, benghazi, benghazi it's the same argument. >> robert, going back to what senator ayotte said and hopes the administration will focus on collecting intelligence necessary to prevent future attacks, john boehner saying something similar, what do you take from that? >> comes back to the point republicans are not exactly celebrating the white house's handling of benghazi, the news of the capture and the political element of this is interesting. ahead of the 2014 midterms, republicans have very much been run in on oversight, going after benghazi, president's handling of the issue, they've started a select committee inside the house. as they do all those oversight efforts, now the news complicates it, perhaps. when's next in terms of politics of this? maybe democrats won't be hammered from the republicans and the public in the polls about benghazi. that's good news for the cost and democrats heading towards the midterms and murky and not sure how it moves forward. >> we'll have more on the latest news on benghazi.
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it's important for us to send a message to the world, when americans are attacked, no matter how long it takes, we will find who is responsible and take them to justice. >> that was president obama just moments ago. and robert, one thing that's interesting here, the suspect was captured and not killed. that's going to create some thorny problems. >> this is going to be the heart of the debate on capitol hill. >> howard, where should he be tried? >> well, they're going to say he
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should be tried in federal coward, and i think the democrats will go with the president on this pretty much down the line. >> is there any sense or concern among republicans, that going against trying the suspect in federal court, they're not going with our system? >> well, they're going to try to ramp up their critiques, and they're not going to stop it. >> how much should republicans continue to overreach this topic? already, they're finding ways to criticize the president. >> well, you're trying to
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motivate your voting base. this issue does resonate with those voters, so i don't expect the republicans to let up. >> and are they going to try to tie hillary clinton to benghazi? >> certainly. you only have to look at mitt romney's comments, it's part of the gop message and they're starting early. >> thank you both for joining us. that wraps up things for this edition of rfd. we'll have much more coming up on "the cycle." but "the reid report" is next with joy reid. to share and unld talk and text.
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good evening, welcome to "the reid report." i'm joy reid. we'll get to all the latest news on the crisis in iraq in a moment. but first, a development on the benghazi story. a suspect has been captured and is now detained. here's what president obama said just moments ago. >> no matter how long it takes, we will find those responsible and bring them to justice. i said that a day after it happened.
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regardless of how long it takes, we will find you. >> let's get right to pete williams in washington. what do we know about how this came about and what happens next? >> well, we were told it was a joint operation by u.s. military forces aided by the fbi to detain and arrest him in libya and take him outside the country. he's going to be questioned and then brought to the united states to face charges. it was a year ago, july of 2013, that charges were secretly filed in washington, accusing him of three charges, one of which carries the death penalty. and the u.s. could file more charges against him. we als
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