♪ in this life ♪ good morning! it is friday, june 20th. welcome to "morning joe." bus on set, we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle. and mark halpern. in washington, don't move, don't laugh! >> pulitzer prize winning columnist and editor of "the washington post" eugene robinson. you can laugh, gene. >> good. >> why don't you want mark to laugh? >> he is injured and he can't

laugh or anything. >> what? >> nobody talk to him! >> what happened? >> can we look or ask? >> no. it was dangerous. it was something he was doing and he had an accident. >> is that why he is wearing glasses? >> yeah, no. >> are those protector glasses? >> don't make hif laugh. >> are you okay, mark? >> let me stand my zen-like state. >> you have, like, five broken ribs? are you good? >> i'm fine. thank you for asking. >> don't laugh or cough. >> what happened? how did you break five ribs? >> a little tumble. >> when was that? >> over the weekend. i'm good, though. i'm heavily medicated. >> that is always wonderful! good for you! >> how did that work out for you? >> we all have something in common. >> wait until i start talking about the japanese tie in the world cup and then you'll see enthusiasm. >> let's do it. >> we have got a lot of stories to get to this morning. >> we really do, mika. >> including a dire situation in iraq where the obama

administration must decide to send more u.s. troops to the country or watch it fall in into a civil war. >> a cautionary tale of how two words can create a firestorm of controversy. the latest example of how you need to be really careful about what you say on social media. >> you have to think about that. plus, suarez silences his critics sending england to the brink of elimination in the world cup with a pair of beautiful goals. >> i wash english soccer every weekend, gene, about nine months a year. i think these guys are great and everybody says they are the best in the world. and then they fold like a rusty lawn chair every four years at the world cup. it is terrible. their performance yesterday, just depressing if you like england. >> it wasn't very good, was it? i mean, they just can't perform on the big stage. plus, luis suarez. come on. the guy knows how to score goals. >> he is the best in the world.

>> is a fairly objectionable human being as you point out. >> he is. >> he's not a nice guy. >> no. >> but, boy, anywhere near the goal he has a killer instinct and he is going to put it in the net. >> he really does and had an incredible game yesterday. the world cup is providing some shock. spain, out. england may be out. except bolatale said if italy wins and takes out costa rica, he expects a kiss from the queen. i think he might get it from the queen, the kiss on the cheek! is what he might get. >> oh, my god! >> boy, we are going to talk about iraq. a big story there. but there's so many political stories percolating under the surface here in the united states may have an impact on 2016. >> a lot of i'm sorry is going

around. physician, details about a criminal investigation involving wisconsin governor scott walker would impact his re-election chances and a potential run for president. according to newly released documents, they say he played a key role in outside groups and focused on helping walker and other republicans defeat recall efforts in 2011 and 2012. prosecutors say one e-mail from governor walker to karl rove highlighted how walker's chief campaign strategist was leading the alleged scheme. officials have not filed any charges against governor walker and he denies any wrong doing. >> i ask people to look at the facts. the facts are pretty clear. a judge at the state and federal level made it clear they didn't buy into this argument and they said to move on. >> what is happening here, mark? obviously, you already have one potential two 2016 candidates for the republican party under the cloud of investigation in new jersey. scott walker seen as a hero by

many republicans. another possible front-runner in 2016. now he is under investigation. tell me about the charges. >> this is not an indictment, right? this is part of an investigation. a complicated series of lawsuits and countercharges. no doubt when he was facing recall and some of the state senators were facing recall that he played a big role in trying to help raise enough money to fight off the opposition. >> that's not illegal but what are his critics alleging is looel illegal. >> coordination to raise money and fight these elections. >> does scott walker have a lot to worry about? >> i think he has something to worry about in the following sense. he has not sewn a great ability to handle national scrutiny when he has gotten it, sometimes, he has not been as strong as he has been in wisconsin. >> does it look like he broke the law? >> my guess is there are things

technically a problem. i don't think he'll be indicted. >> doesn't look like it when you read it. >> but he's in a tough re-election fight and could create enough doubt amongst people in wisconsin to cost him re-election. if he doesn't win re-election, people will not talk about him as a presidential candidate but i doubt he is indicted. apologies. rick perry is apology. he infaumsly drew blank during the 2012 presidential debate faced criticism last week for seeming to compare homosexuality to alcoholism. here's a little part of what he said. >> whether or not you feel compelled to follow a particular lifestyle or not, you have the ability to decide not to do that. and i made the point of talking about alcoholism.

i may have -- i may have the genetic coating i am inclined to do a alcoholic and i look at the home out sexualism the same way. >> it doesn't get better watching that. he said he used a poor choice of words. he admits he, quoted, stepped right into it adding in in part, i got asked about an issue' instead we need to get back to talking about whether you're gay or straight. you need to be having a job. >> right. >> well, okay. >> willie, i mean, just breaking this down, what he said last week that he is apologizing for this week most likely would not hurt him in the iowa caucuses

and shocking to a lot of people in manhattan and washington, d.c. but i don't know if it's shocking to 50%, 60% of the republican base and please take up that debate with 60% of the republican base, i'm talking about sheer politics here. >> that's probably changing a little bit. there is a base that will not be bothered by it. i wasn't bothered by his comparison to alcoholism by the core of what he said which is you can wake up one morning and decide not to be gay. forget the comparison. that is the point he made. that is a pretty radical thing to say. >> that is. mike barnicle? >> i don't understand why so many of these candidates find it so hard just to be normal. just have a normal human response. fine, you're gay? fine. nobody cares. let's just move on. >> i don't think we should overstate the walk back here. this is his message now let's talk about the economy. republicans should just talk about the economy. he is not changing his position. he is just saying i shouldn't be talking about my position. >> but even that, though, is significant for a republican party that gets itself in

trouble every four years and early primary states by obsessing over immigration and obsessing over the gay issues and gay marriage and obsessing own contraception. i think the walk-back if you're a republican strategist, if you're haley barbour it's a pretty good sign the governor from texas is saying let's not talk about gay marriage, let's talk about whether straight, gay, you know, all americans are getting good jobs or not. is that not significant? >> he is a republican nominee and he trying to compete in florida and ohio, he'll be drawn back into those discussions and his positions are still his positions. >> okay. >> which is the republican party shouldn't be obsessing about gay marriage but should be obsessing about jobs. i think that's a positive step forward. >> if he stayed consistent and never deviated but let's see when he gets asked about it again. >> can i, for balance now, go to a democratic apology? governor perry is not the only

possible 2016 saying sorry. former montana governor brian schweitzer is apologying. he said the following. >> i got parts of the south i'd like to take. >> set off his, quote, gaydar. mr. schweitzer used defensive language to discuss a relationship between the cia and senator dianne feinstein. he writes i made a number stupid and insensitive remarks to a reporter from "the national journal." i'm sorry and apologize for my carelessness and disregard. >> democratic campaign against hillary clinton over? >> that guy is great to spend time with but he says goofy stuff with a lot of regularity. i've never taken him seriously as a challenger to per, in part, because he's a little loose.

>> we keep talking about him as a 2016 contender. where is that coming from, other than from him? >> good point. although those comments were outrageous. bun wig news story to get to before we get to iraq which is a major headline. this was one of the most explosive crimes in new york city history and it appears the city is closing in on a settlement of the wrongful convictions of the men who became known as the central park five. remember this? "the new york times" reports they have agreed to a $40 million settlement over their wrongful arrests and imprisonment. the crime itself and the legal battle that followed came to symbolize a troubled time when crime was far more prevalent. it started back in 1989 when prosecutors said a band of young people had assaulted a jogger and they called it wilding when a large group of people gathered

to terrorize strangers. the victim was a 28-year-old investment banker who later came forward to reveal herself. the suspects were black and hispanic age 14 to 16 at the time of their arrests. the sensational media coverage of the event only fanned the flames of a city already divided along racial lines. the suspects made incriminating statements about themselves to investigators statements they say were coerced by authorities. here is how a "today" report from "the time." >> reporter: there was no solid evidence linking the defendants to the crime. no fingerprints, no blood matches. the prosecution strongest weapon came from the teenagers themselves in written and taped confessions. >> what did you hit her with? >> on the face here and up here. >> reporter: defense lawyers argued the teenagers were pressured into confessing, that they were victims of a biased legal system, anxious to solve a crime against a white woman. >> all five were convicted in

two separate trials. the d.a. discovered new evidence in 2002 that exonerated all of the suspects. the legal battle of restitution has continued 25 years with the city admitting its investigators made mistakes but in good faith. attorneys for the central park five say it was a racially motivated conspiracy and something the city had done through the bloomberg administration. >> our friend ken burns took this on. >> his daughter in the documentary. >> in the documentary and has been talking about this for some time. you just mentioned the year to new yorkers 1989. 1989. >> you mention that particular incident. >> that incident and you talk about 1989. there was a bleakness in the city. it was -- talk about a city on edge and this story symbolizes it more than any other story, and now we learn all these years later than horrendous story

about these five who were set up as public enemies. >> their lives lost. >> it would be hard to overestimate the impact that had in the city at that time. the city, new york city at that time, 1989, was an entirely different city than it is now. even the geography of the city was different. >> i can recall the coverage of that case. the city just springs and bolts of the city's underpinnings breaking loose. this was example of a city on the decline, really rapid decline. i don't believe it was a conspiracy among the police. it was an injustice, obviously. but i don't think any conspiracy involved in it. >> gene robinson? >> yeah. i mean, conspiracy -- certainly was, number one, a rush to judgment. number two, there was pressure on the police to solve this case. >> enormous. >> and, you know, five black and

hispanic teenagers looked guilty. that's where the fingers were pointing in 1989 as people experienced what was happening in new york and so i think it was -- you know, conspiracy may not be the right word but there was something like that. >> certainly a rush to judgment. >> and involving not just the police but the media and the whole city that made it impossible for these guys to be looked at fairly, i think. and those confessions, you know, they were coerced. they were dragged out of those kids in a way that -- well, look the city is paying $40 million. >> this remind me when i was a teenager growing up in the new york area in 1989. i remember this so well. sort of do the right thing time where you had this simmering racial tension everywhere you looked and this brought it all

to the forefront. he only thing i would say 40 million is nice but one of these guys was in jail 13 years. 13 years. >> yeah. >> the other four were in jail seven years. they never get that time back. their lives were ruined and changed forever and it's a terrible travesty and a black eye on a great city. >> it also helped propel rudy giuliani into the mayor's office because of the tenor and tone of the city and the fear of crime rapidly increasing crime. >> for young new yorkers, mika, it is absolutely impossible for them to begin to understand how bleak this city was between, let's say, 1988 and 1993 because of the crack epidemic, because of thousand different things colliding at the same time. i remember reading an article from a new york native, it was actually woody allen, talking about the good old days in new york city where back in the '60s you could actually go out at

10:00 at night and walk and get something to eat. i think that interview was like in the '88 or '89 and i looked at that thinking, wow, what would it be like to live in new york where you could go out at 10:00 at night and safely walk the streets and get something to eat? it is just changed so radically. >> a terrible time. let's get to iraq now. president obama's own words. the fate of iraq hangs in the balance. citing the threat to american interests there, he is sending american soldiers back into the country. >> we have had advisers in iraq through our embassy and prepared to send a small edition of american advisers, up to 300, to assess how we can best train, advise, and support iraqi security forces going forward. american forces will not be returning to combat in iraq and going forward, we will be prepared to take targeted and precise military action if and when we determine that the situation on the ground requires

it. if we do, i will consult closely with congress and leaders in iraq and the region. >> it is a vexing position for an administration that prided itself on ending u.s. involvement back in 2011. now the pentagon must thread the needle on how to target a powerful sunni insurgency without appearing to take sides in a sectarian conflict with the shia. for the white house, the best solution is a reformed government that represents all side. how possible is that? as the president made clear yesterday, if the current prime minister won't do on it, then somebody else should. >> now, it's not the place for the united states to choose iraq's leaders. it is clear, though, that only leaders that can govern with an inclusive agenda will be able to bring the iraqi people together and help them through this crisis. >> you know, gene, last night i think it was, i retweeted a john lennor quote. life is what happens to you while you're busy making other

plans. i think maureen dowd wrote a clem that applied that principle without mentioning lennon. the republicans come in and have clear ideas. george w. bush promised a humble restrained foreign policy and then 9/11 happened. this president, you know, his political dream was to get us out of iraq and get us out of afghanistan, but now i know the left won't be happy and the right won't be happy because they want more, but does president obama have any other choice than to take the step he is taking right now with this region on fire? >> the step he is tag right now, sending 300 military advisers and, more important, he is getting involved once again politically as the sort of --, you know, as the united states in iraq and look.

i think the opening, the potential opening he sees -- and i don't know if it's real. i have my deep suspicions but the opening he sees if you can get a new government formed in iraq that doesn't include maliki that is inclusive that doesn't govern in a sectarian way against shiites against sunnis, maybe you can persuade the sunni tribal chiefs in the sunni areas to kick out the isis guys, this al qaeda off-shoot that take has taken over the territory. that kind of worked once before during the sunni awakening. however, i think it's too late for that. i don't think you can get that kind of government. >> the question is -- i'd like anybody at the table to answer this, if they think the president has any other choice than to do what he did yesterday. >> no. >> i sure don't think president obama had any other choice than to do what he did yesterday.

>> this is the best of a series of terrible options. this is the best of them. this is a terrible option. all of the rest are even worse. 300 people, 300 members of the united states military on the ground in iraq. no matter what you call them, they are combatants now. you're wearing the uniform of the united states military so let's accept they are combatants. they will provide logistical support to a badly bruised and iraqi army. the sunni tribesmen who were with us in '06 through '08 no longer trust us because we left. president obama signed the force of agreement, we get out. that's all history. his best option now is what he is doing to try to maintain some stability in the north through the kurds and trying to prevent jordan from collapsing which is an epic domino foalling in the middle east and maintain some kind of order there. >> you look at that map right there. all around iraq you have jordan below syria.

you have a middle east completely exploding. you have saudi arabia always on the edge of possibly exploding with extremists there. it's been that way for a very long time. you've got iran to the east of it. you have so many things going on right now. i know a lot of people would like to say we need to just stick our heads in the sand because things went so horribly wrong from 2003 to 2007. we don't have a choice. not after syria and not after this past week. we don't have a choice. >> the one piece that may work out to be bigger, bigger play for the president, we don't know where secretary kerry is going exactly. supposed to go to iraq eventually. he is supposed to go to the region. that's the piece if we can build an international coalition, including the saudis and turkey to try to figure out a way to build a credible government with international support. that is the one hope we have. >> and that is, willie, this is, i think, most americans

understand we can't do this alone. we need the saudis, we need the united arab emirates and jordan and other countries around that have a stake in this. equally to us bringing their advisers in as well and their money. >> they have made clear they need us and i think part of the reason we are going. mike brings up a good point. 300 advisers what are they advising exactly? this is an army many of whom stripped off their uniforms that when isis came in there so it's not as easy as it sounds. >> could we put that map up one more time? >> sure. put the map up. >> 3-2-1. >> if you get it up there. the key component here jordan is not defined there. if you take a look to the left of damascus. >> jordan has been on the brink for a year. people have been collapsed talking about a collapse for the past year now.

>> israeli on its south and saudi arabia on its southwest. jordan is a key component here. if jordan collapses that entire region becomes more of a bonfire than it is already. i think the idea is to establish a -- lock in our allies. the kurds in the north and jordanians and i wouldn't be surprised if the secretary of state and his trip ended up going to jordan. >> well, he certainly needs to go to jordan because you have -- because, again, understandably after 2003 and a decade of war, we didn't get involved in syria. now you have the refugee crisis because of the civil war in syria. this is a country and a region that could collapse. yes, that does have an impact on us and oh, by the way, we didn't mention turkey to the north of all of that. coming up on "morning joe," nearly a year after filing for bankruptcy, detroit finally has a plan to find its financial

footing. governor rick snyder explains the city's grand bargain in our 8:00 hour. plus, celebrating a true american hero. what this young marine did in afghanistan to earn the nation's highest military honor. and osama bin laden the action figure? why the cia considered using toys in their hunt for the terrorist. we will explain. first, he has his own action figure. >> bill karins does. >> yes, he does. >> dude, you press a button and he goes, i'm sorry, i was wrong. thunderstorms. sorry. >> here is bill karins with a check on the forecast. bill? >> just change the batteries and i'll be here every morning. good morning, everyone. take a look what happened in minnesota yesterday. the thunderstorms were just endless and the rains kept falling from the skies and eventually the ground gave way. this is a little mudslide, the river, obviously, took out some of that bank there in the minneapolis area. the flooding is arrival in our big rivers. we are going to see major flooding the upcoming weekend. the missouri river and the

mississippi river. let me show you the rainfall totals. only 20 days into the month of june and broken records in sioux falls, sioux city and minneapolis for rain in june. a foot of rain in 20 days and recipe for disaster as far as flooding is concerned. the missouri river from sioux city to omaha you crest the next two days and it looks like over the weekend towards the lacrosse and mississippi area. thankfully the mississippi widens up and the lock system on there and not expecting a lot of flooding downstream. st. louis and other areas like, that you are safe. the forecast for today. we are finally getting out of our severe pattern. remember all of those tornadoes earlier this week. now we see typical thunderstorms from the ohio valley and mid-atlantic. if you have beach plans from wilmington to charleston to savannah thunderstorms in your forecast this afternoon and saturday. paem the beaches. the outer banks near ocean city towards maryland, norfolk, virginia beach you all have a chance of thunderstorms and

humid out there with thunderstorms. so the forecast for the weekend, new england, by the way, you look nearly perfect from new york city north wards, low humidity and sunny, beautiful days. on the west coast you're also looking very, very quiet. we leave you with a shot of a beautiful morning in washington, d.c. it looks like you get a break from your afternoon thunderstorms today. enjoy. more "morning joe" when we come back. ♪ more to think about deadlines and commitments ♪ what to leave in, what to leave out noe ♪ against the wind oe ♪ against the wind

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♪ live look at new york city. times square on this friday morning. time now to take a look at the morning papers. ""the washington times. ""the washington times."" libyan man is speaking clearly to u.s. investigators. they are considering transporting khattalah to a prison here in the u.s. since

his capture. he has been held on the "uss new york in international waters. from the jackson clarion-ledger. a marine seriously injured after jumping on a grenade to save his fellow marines on the blast is the youngest living person ever to receive the medal of honor. nbc peters alexander has his story. >> reporter: kyle carpenter shouldn't be alive. returning to university of south carolina this fall. >> i've been given a second chance to enjoy life. >> reporter: he is 24 now but marine corpsal carpenter was just 21 when he earned the medal of honor. that is him in afghanistan helmand providence where a grenade exploded while he and another marine was standing guard. i felt like warm water is poured over me which is my blood. after that i thought how devastated my family would be

and upset i was killed in afghanistan. >> reporter: carpenter smothered the blast to protect his best friend who still recovering from his wounds. carpenter woke up in water reed six weeks later either drums blown out and vision gone in his right eye and shlap nell remove from his brain. >> i don't feel like i have any other option. >> reporter: carpenter is thoughtful and understated but the way he is living his life is anything but. run ago marine corps marathon and sky diving and inspiring others with the story of sacrifice and resilience. last summer he retired from the military and never expecting to hear from his former commander in chief. >> this is barack obama. how are you doing? >> fine, sir. how about? >> i'm giving you the medal of honor for your courageous actions in afghanistan in support of the operation. >> reporter: carpenter accepted that honor. >> if any american seeks a model of the strength and resilience

that define us as a people, including this newest 9/11 generation, i want you to consider kyle. >> reporter: an american hero for all generations. >> what a story. marine corpsal carpenter will be our guest on "morning joe" next wednesday. >> you saw his mother when he got the news. >> looks like a great family. i can't wait to hear more about them. "the washington post" cia used toys to weaken the influence of osama bin laden. the agency developed a blaactio figure. when faced with heat, the paint dissolves. his face looked like the devil. the officials say the goal was to scare children away from bin laden. the cia says only three prototypes were made and it

never went to market. >> it looks like a "star wars" geek. i think the kids would snap that up. thank you, cia. the "los angeles times." long time song writer of carole king, our friend, was passedware, garry coffin. "you feel like a natural woman" and the smash "will you love me tomorrow" he wrote. just an extraordinary songwriting pair. they were married in 1959 and divorced nine years later. their story is a subject of the current broadway hit music "the carole king musical." goffin is survived by his wife and children. our entire thoughts with the entire family, including our dear friend carole. propose francis is called progressive but one issue he is not looking for change. the pontiff is pushing back hard against legalization of recreational drugs.

he is criticizing efforts to pave the way for easier access to drugs including marijuana which is playing out everywhere from uruguay to south america to colorado and washington here in the states. the pope is taking a stand on pot. >> yep. he certainly is. willie geist, it's time for politico. >> with us now the chief white house correspondent mike allen. >> happy friday, willie! >> there it is. let's talk about new jersey governor chris christie here. later today he is giving a big speech. what is he talking about and why are are so many people watching? >> this is amazing. chris christie is going to be here in d.c. today talking to the faith and freedom coalition. this is the pro family group that was started by ralph reed. maggie haberman has a look at that. somebody who is pro choice like he is, looking out for people

who are addicted to drugs is very much in line with that view of looking out for your neighbor, treating your neighbor with respect. governor christie, back in april, said he had a friend who, for ten years, had fought drug addiction and he lost him. apparently this had a real impact on the governor. the governor speaking to this christian conservative group today. we are told he won't use a text, that he'll speak from notes. he is going to say if you can help someone who is drug addicted, you should be able to give them the tools to help fix their own life. so this is compassionatism. he will say drug addict can happen to anyone, it's a disease. willie, this is part of the sort of broader republican interest in. >> caller: justice reform. we've heard rand paul also talk a lot about this and governor

christie has said he is for sentencing reform for first-time offenders of drug offenses and it's part of saving money. >> i think you said the governor was pro choice. he describes himself as anti-abortion and we will talk about that today. quickly, mike, step back a few feet here. is governor chris christie still a viable presidential candidate? so many people cast him aside when this bridgegate broke out but we are a few months past it now. how he is feeling and how are people in washington feeling about him as a presidential candidate? >> people in washington feel like he still has a long was he to go. we have heard joe say this on the show, that he thinks that he still is struggling. governor christie has been out with jimmy fallon appearance trying to do a reintroduction to himself and talking to cpak and traveling around the country

with the governors association. the question is what and how quickly these investigations in new jersey wrap up. the dilemma for the government, the impediment to the governor is the distraction factor. even if it is found out he did nothing wrong he is who he says he is, while that smoke is out there, while the press and democrats keep covering that, it makes it hard for him to to talk about a message he wants to, like the message he is going to today, including, and thank you for correcting me. he is anti-abortion and some say pro life message. >> mike, thanks for a look in the playbook. have a good weekend. one knee after knee surgery, uruguay's luis suarez shows he why he is one of the best soccer player. plus, who doesn't want a round of ice cream after a nice round of golf? this girl does. lucy li does her press

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♪ the world cup. england and uruguay. uruguay luis suarez using his head to net the first goal of the game. that's a beauty. that's just gorgeous. >> that's just gorgeous. >> the second half now.

british star wayne rooney answers. nice pass in front of the net ties it up. suarez not done yet. find the net with the game winner in the 85th minute. wow. >> some of the worst defense i've ever seen. this would be, you know, like third and 18 and you have eight people on the line in american football. >> they are a little slow footage. >> he got behind them. the greatest striker in the world with just a few minutes left and speaks to how pathetic england is in international play. it's just sad. >> uruguay wins 2-1 and england as you said earlier on the brink and could be knocked out of this tournament depending on some other results. >> only a kiss from a queen can save them. >> they need to win their next match and they need italy to beat both costa rica and

uruguay. >> they may just stand back and let england get defeated. >> in change for the help, mario bartollo quoted, if we win, i want a kiss on the cheek from the queen. columbia and ivory coast. columbia with a corner kick. check out the header from rodriguez. great celebration too. why can't you do that in the nfl? that's fun. makes the game more fun. columbia tacks on another before this incredible play by the man known simply as jervell. watch the footwork. he beats several columbia defenders on his way to the net. columbia holds on with a 2-1 victory. the united states takes the pitch on sunday but when they do without one of their most important players, jozy altidore was hurt in the first half win

over ghana. a teams spokesman did are the rule out a return for him. clint dempsey has a broken nose and kicked in the face in the last game. he is playing but with a broken nose. told you about this 11-year-old dominating the u.s. women's golf open. lucy li shot a 78. that is 8 over but she is shooting in the 70s. she is 11 against the best players in the world. she's in 54th place and seemed very happy and confident with her performance. >> i'm happy with how i played. i mean, it's 8 over. it's not bad. but i was 7 over in three holes. so that's 1 over in 15 holes. so, yeah. i just need to get rid of the big numbers. >> yep. she is eating some ice cream during her post round press conference. >> that is awesome. >> a little baseball. the royals have their ten-game winning streak snap but they might be the hottest team in

baseball! clayton kershaw two nights ago for the dodgers 15 strikeout and no-hitter. incredible. >> with the exception of hanley ramirez throwing error, it's a perfect game. unbelievable game. coming up next, patrick murphy is here with his thoughts with the country in which he fought. martin sheen with helping our country's veterans. that is next on "morning joe."

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in that horrible tragedy and resentment and fear and anger. and, you know, the horror of what they went through. can only be freed by sharing it with each other. i think that is the most important work that needs to be done. >> that was actor martin sheen talking about the importance of group recovery for our returning vets. sheen has a brother who is a vietnam veteran and famously star in 1979 "apocalypse now." his interview airs this sunday on msnbc "taking the hill" series. the host of "taking the hill" patrick murphy. thanks for being on the show. >> thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> we have read so many accounts of so many iraq vets look at what happened over the past couple of weeks and they are heart broken because they lost their buddies fighting there and left a part of themselves on the battlefield and they did believe, a lot of vets believe in 2011 when they left like barack obama that the place is more stable, it was going to be

self-reliant. it was a sovereign nation and all that wiped away in a couple of weeks. how do you feel as a guy that gave your all there? >> it breaks my heart to be honest with you, joe. i think we gave them a great chance to have a democracy and to have a republic and maliki blew it. listen. i lost 19 guys over there that never made it home. and we have lost over 4,000. so it breaks my heart and i think that is why when we do our on show this sunday, i mean, this is pta awareness month. one in five coming home have post-traumatic stress disorder and why it's important we wrap our arms around them as a country and take care of them. we don't leave anyone behind in the military. as they come home they are squared away and have the opportunity to do great things and continue to do great things. >> we love so many in both wars, iraq and afghanistan. often we try to talk about it a lot on this show, a lot of the

initiatives involved with willie as i think of yours and try to bring to the forefront the issues plaguing our vets. we are losing them like 22 a day. >> 22 veterans a day. >> it's as if we're, in some way, still at war. >> yeah. yeah. for a lot of these men and women coming back, they still are at war. >> they are at war every day. >> you relive the horrors and why we need to make sure that we get this v.a. crisis in line. that's why we need to make sure that we highlight some of the positive success stories as well. veterans are incredibly civic assets in our country. the head of horizon. the head of proctor and gamble. these are veterans that have done great things. these next generations of veterans coming back can continue to do great things if they are given a chance and that is these positive stories are what we also try to highlight during our show. >> patrick, one of the great fears looking a lot of us at this table have had the v.a. scandal would be red hot a couple of weeks and go away as other news comes up and that's begun to happen already with

what is going on in iraq. what do we do to stay on the v.a. and how are you feeling about the progress such that it is that has been made even in the last few weeks from awareness? >> part of it is triage. they had so many veterans that were waiting for months and months and months just to see a doctor. so they are now in the public/private partnership allowing to go into a private sector. they understand they have a doctor shortage so we need really a surge to make sure we take care of these folks when we come back because they need the help. and especially those veterans that are waiting to see mental health counselors. that is unacceptable. these folks, as mika said, 22 veterans commit suicide a day. it's an epidemic and unless we do something as a nation, not to talk about it every once in a while when it's a red hot issue but focus on it every day. that less than 1% who served in iraq and afghanistan which is the longest war in american history, by the way, are coming home and we need to make sure we love them and take care of them. >> the latest episode of "taking the hill" featuring your

interview with actor martin sheen airs this sunday at 1:00 p.m. eastern time on msnbc. patrick murphy, thank you very much. >> always great to have you. congratulations. >> thank you. >> you're important. important. still ahead on "morning joe," dr. za big new brzezinski will break down the crisis in iraq. we will be back more with much more "morning joe." in the nation, it's not always pretty.

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♪ i've told you all about the recent surge of violence in iraq and how it caught president obama with his mom jeans down. but you know what they say? every brutal terrorist onslaught has a silver lining. in this case, it's brought back my old pals the iraq pack! and they are singing the same old tunes. >> we had the conflict won and we had a stable government. >> john mccain is right. we had that conflict won in 2009 when we left iraq a peaceful smoldering democracy. i believe we have some footage of baghdad at the height of the surge. ♪ welcome back to "morning

joe." mark halpern and mike barnicle and eugene robinson still bus. joining us on set in new york president of the council in foreign relations, richard haass. in washington the moderator of "meet the press" david gregory. good to have you on board this hour. >> can we talk about iraq in a second? i thought you guys had a very fascinating conversation about scott walker off camera. >> you want to do that first? >> just really quickly. >> i agree. >> i'm not read in on it. i'm curious what you and others around the table were saying about that investigation. >> okay. so as we have been reporting, there's a criminal investigation involving governor scott walker of wisconsin and some are saying it could impact his election. prosecutors game he played a key role in a criminal scheme to

coordinate. prosecutors say one e-mail from governor walker to karl rove highlighted how walker's chief campaign strategist was leading the alleged scheme. >> okay. so -- >> so there are no charges filed. >> no charges, but you and mark and mike and others who have read into this a lot more than i have, you all said this sounded strange. what do you mean? the investigation, like, what is going on? >> he's in a tough re-election challenge against a democrat mary burke. >> we all understand the sewer that is money in politics. what i didn't understand and i'm easily confused, i admit that. five local district attorneys combine for practically a joint press release indicating that governor walker is under criminal suspicion of doing something or other with fund-raising. >> we just don't get the whole process part of it. it's just a strange thing.

>> i don't understand it. again, i've not read in on this story. why would five, you say, district attorneys? >> i don't know. >> put out a press release saying he is under criminal suspicion? >> a memo released as part of a related civil investigation. mike and i, between us, have 180 years of covering stuff like this but we just don't quite get the process here. >> are you saying it could be politically motivated? >> that is what walker is saying. the headlines read like he is about to be indicted or this is part of a pending indictment and it seems more like it's part of an ongoing investigation or maybe even a closed investigation. >> five d.a.s are -- >> circling. >> that's strange. >> all right, i don't understand. we will read into it some. let's go ahead and go to iraq. a lot of stuff going on. >> in president obama's own words, the fate of iraq hangs in the balance and citing the threat to american interests there, he is sending american soldiers back into the country.

the president said that. he said he is sending hundreds of military advisers. a vexing position for the administration that prided itself on ending you us involvement in iraq in 2011. now the pentagon must thread the needle how to target a powerful sunni insurgency without appearing to take sides in a sectarian conflict with the shia. for the white house, the best solution is a reformed government that represents all side. how possible is that? as the president made clear yesterday, if the current prime minister won't do on it, then somebody else should. >> now, it's not the place for the united states to choose iraq's leaders. it is clear, though, that only leaders that can govern with an inclusive agenda will be able to bring the iraqi people together and help them through this crisis. >> i'm going to be sitting down with president obama this afternoon. we will have the full interview on monday on "morning joe." >> so, richard, obviously, most

americans don't want troops to go back into iraq. president obama talked about the war being over in 2011, that we were leaving a stable and sovereign and self-reliant iraq that had a representative government. the president's own base doesn't want him to send troops back to iraq. i certainly can understand that. a lot of republicans don't want him to. but the question is danidn't th commander in chief have any other choice than to do what president obama did yesterday? >> the answer is yes. what he essentially did yesterday is essentially introduce what you might call a miniresidual force after removing u.s. forces years ago and now we have begun the process of going back on that. >> but was that the responsible thing for the president to do? >> i think it's responsible. there are other things we also need to do which i would talk about, one, is going after isis inside syria. we should forget the idea of

seeing these syria and iraq. it's one thing. we should be funneling enormous amounts of resource in jordan which could be the next target and imagine the repercussions for israeli and others on. iraq is not going to go back to being a normal country and not each back to a country. we ought to cut a deal with the quds. >> kurds. >> president obama faced a lot of criticism from a lot of sites and think history began in 2007 and ended in 2011 and democrats who think history began in 2003 and ended in -- >> founny about that. >> people say i've gone back and looked at everything read from 2002 to 2007. republicans only remember when they were right from 'on 07 to '08. >> selected members. >> barack obama, unfortunately, has a much tougher job.

he has take to look forward. >> and get it right. >> would you -- let me ask you the question this way, then if you said he had other choices. would you have advised the president to put at least 300 troops into iraq yesterday? >> uncomfortable with it in the idea that -- >> would you have advised him to do it? >> it would not been at the top of my list. >> what would you do first? >> go after isis inside syria. >> you say that. >> just to make the point i would find some people in syria i would give arms to who would take on is sis and help the kurds on the deal this is the support you need as long as you don't carve out a state in, say, turkey. i would attack isis from the air wherever it is an isolated counterterrorism program. what makes me a little bit nervous about what the president is doing and to me the most questionable part is do we essentially want to become the coalition partner of an iran dominated iraq? and so all of this -- the reason

it's okay, i think, is that this is an experiment. we will put in 300 advisers on the hope -- i think it's an enormous hope -- that we can get an iraqi government that has some legitimacy that is going to be more than simply an agent of iraqi shia and of iran. i'm skeptical, frankly. if this is experiment worth doing. >> iraqi basically thumbed their nose at barack obama and the generals around maliki back in 2011, but now one that is literally fighting for their very lives. does the white house believe they could get a more cooperation from maliki's government or another government? >> well, i think nobody knows. even if you push maliki out, do you get another leader similar to maliki afterwards? the similarity to iran when we had hundred of thousands of troops there had nor influence than the sus did over the actual government. the other piece of it is that from maliki's perspective he wen

from dealing with the commander in chief in president bush to not dealing with the president at all in president obama. in fact, he dealt much more directly with vice president biden, a figure who has less credibility in iraq since he wanted to partition the country throughout. so those who wanted to create a national iraq viewed him he more conceptically. i had the same reaction that richard did. this is a creation and why it's a risky move of kind of a residual force. i think the president didn't do in syria now forces his hand in a way. he is forced to try to degrade isis the best he can as a way to begin the process knowing that the u.s. has a responsibility to prevent the safe haven for terrorists from being created but, at the same time, put heavy pressure directly through secretary kerry. also directly through the turks. maybe through iran, jordan and others as you were talking about earlier this morning. to put pressure on a government in iraq that can function the

way it's supposed to function in an multiethnic way. >> the question is isn't that what we tried to concoct in the first place and it failed miserable? >> let's bring in host of "the daily rundown" chuck todd. chuck, how does what president obama wants to accomplish with 300 military advisers, possibly more, in terms of creating a reformed government that represents all sides, how does that differ what we tried to do in an immense effort last time? >> well, i don't -- i think in many ways i think the 300 troops are being almost overhyped in what they are there for the iraqi government and underhyped about what they are, i think, their long-term job is which this is the -- of iraq. these folks are there essentially almost entirely to be gathering intelligence and preparing to figure out how do you cut off the head of the isis snake, right? in the same way we have seen in yemen and every three to six

months in yemen we hear about a drone strike or some sort of operation, fuzzy on the details, likely perhaps some special forces, drone strikes, whatever it is, that gets rid of an al qaeda in yemen operative. this is in many ways a message from the president. look. he would do more if he had fame in the iraqi government but yesterday's announcement was not having faith in the iraqi government, trying to to see if you send kerry over there to basically send the message to maliki, leader, leave. either do the job or get out and let's see if somebody else can do it. in the meantime, use at least 300 to start building a way to do -- to go after isis. by the way, this now opens the door because there is no border between iraq and syria. the president actually probably has congressional authority thanks to the war authorization to go after isis because of this

link now to iraq. >> chuck, you mentioned intelligence gathering a couple of minutes ago. over the course of the last ten days, we have had a hoard, you call them isis led by teenagers and a few adults and come barreling down toward baghdad, but the seeming surprise of it, the seeming shock of it among many people in washington and throughout the world leads to the question was there -- why wasn't there more intelligence about what happened and how quickly it happened? >> it's interesting. you ask that question. we have asked that question. i'll get, oh, we knew this was a problem. that's what i get right there. we knew this -- we didn't expect the speed of these cities to fall, we didn't expect how quickly isis was going to do this, that they had had been monitoring them, they had been worried that something like this

was possible. they just didn't see it coming when it happened. they say they thought this was possible in maybe months down the road. >> gene robinson? >> a question for richard haass. we have heard for years and years how precarious the government in jordan might be in the situation in jordan might be. but somehow the kingdom manages to survive and the monarchy there manages to survive. how serious do you think this potential threat is this time around? >> the honest answer is, gene, it is serious. jordan, if you were suffering under the third great way historically of refugees. iraqi and now syrian refugees. the country is sinking and the international pledges of help heavy on the pledges and short on the delivery. jordan which has always been an uneasy coalition demographically is overwhelmed and a lot of

these refugees are not going home to syria and not to jordan. they need enormous help. can i come back to one thing that chuck was talking about? he used the phrase yemenization of iraq and i think that is a big idea but the administration has to make a fundamental choice. it's one thing to send military advisers to iraq that is essentially there to carry out a counterterrorism mission and something else to send military advisers to iraq to work organically with the iraqi government which means to iran to prop on it up. to me that is a fundamental difference. so i would favor doing a very limited narrow counterterrorism issue against isis in iraq, in syria. that makes sense. again, at the same time, we strengthen the kurds. it's different than becoming a partner of this iran-backed government. if you think maliki goes you're

going to have something fundamentally different, no way. iraq is a sectarian country to its core and the way the politics are. look at some of the people even considered to take maliki's place. they would be no better. >> don't you think the president of the united states, at this point, want to try at least to keep iraq whole? wants to try to put pressure to keep the army fighting? i mean, that is what the u.s. commitment was for all of our time in iraq. don't you think there would be some period of time to try to preserve that? >> there may be. quite honestly, david, i don't understand more the reason why. we wanted to keep iraq hole to balance iran. iraq didn't balance iran. iraq serves iranian interest in the middle east. we want the kurdish area to be safe and secure. keeping iraq whole is not clear to me. we want iraq to be intact in baghdad to take on the terrorists but i don't think we necessarily have an american interest in an old fashioned iraq. >> so many facets to this.

go ahead, real quick. >> is there no quick answer. >> we have got these guys here with us next. david gregory, thank you as well. quickly what is coming up on "meet the press"? >> rand paul on this question of iraq and what the president should do. chuck todd, see you on "the daily rundown" at 9:00 eastern. ahead, detroit has a plan to rebuild its city after a decade of deterioration. why a minnesota high school student is under fire what he says was a sarcastic tweet. the two words that got him into big trouble. up next, we will continue this conversation with dr. zbigniew brzezinski. ♪ [ girl ] my mom, she makes underwater fans

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♪ we have had advisers in iraq through our embassy and we are

prepared to send a small number of additional american military advisers, up to 300, to assess how we can best train, advise, and support iraqi's security forces going forward. american forces will not be returning to combat in iraq. in going forward, we will be prepared to take targeted and precise military action if and when we determine that the situation on the ground requires it. if we do, i will consult closely with congress and leaders in iraq and in the region. welcome back to "morning joe." let's bring in msnbc chief foreign correspondent richard engel who is live in baghdad with the latest. richard? >> reporter: well, the u.s. is getting more involved militarily in this country again. as you heard, the president says this is not another invasion. we are not going to see shock and awe but these 300, quote/unquote, advisers. some are here and others on the

way and in baghdad and other places and joint operation centers with the iraqi military. these are not fashion advisers. they are going to be looking for targets. they are military advisers and initially they are going to be trying to help the iraqi army use all of its military hardware and the iraqi military has tons of equipment as helicopters and planes and tanks but, obviously, the iraqi military hasn't been using them effectively otherwise we wouldn't see all of these defections and wouldn't see the iraqi army in mass retreat. the iraqi army vehicles also have forward, not just the reverse gear, which we have seen them use the last several days. so the plan is once the u.s. troops are here, they are going to work with the iraqis and get them to launch an effective counteroffensive which, so far, the iraqi military has been unable to do. but the interesting thing in all of this is that there are two parties on the ground here. the u.s. isn't the only win advising the iraqi military. the iranians are already here doing the same thing.

the quds force is considered a hostile force to the u.s. military to u.s. intelligence, it sees itself as hostiles and sees it as hostile. these are not friendly forces. we will be here as well and already here as well advising the iraqi military. we have got a lot of people who want to drive this ship. >> richard, one of the themes of war sometimes, you talk about deconflicting. but what you're getting at is what you might call the political side of deconflicting. have you spoken to any of the u.s. forces about how it is they would work with the iraqis against isis, at the same time, not work with the iranians against isis who, by the way, were on opposite side once you cross over the border into syria? >> reporter: yeah. it gets very tricky when you get -- when they actually get here in larger numbers and try and do this. because the country they are coming back to, u.s. military

advisers -- by the way, there have always been some here but it's not the same country when u.s. troops left two and a half years ago. when they left here they were running the show with the iraqis. they controlled the air space. the u.s. troops could move wherever they wanted to and, in many cases, the u.s. said, jump and the iraqis said how high. things have changed dramatically here. the iranians deeply entrenched then are even more entrenched now. if the americans come back and into the joint command center and talking to their iraqi counterparts i don't know how the americans can know what other conversations the iraqis are having when they are not in the room with their iranian friends. i think this will be a very awkward experience for the u.s. u.s. special forces and these advisers are are special forces,

spend a lot of their time tracking the quds force. they watch the quds force. they watch how it moves around the world. now they are going to be not necessarily sitting in the same room but dealing with the same people to try and manipulate iraq's at least military short-term destiny. it will be a strange thing. then the syria factor. okay, so iran and the u.s. have this converged interest right now to attack isis militants in northern and western iraq. the isis militants don't see their homeland as northern and western iraq. they see it as all of syria and all of iraq and beyond including lebanon and other places. when these militants start getting hit and they run back over into syria, is the u.s. going to chase them down and some u.s. officials have suggested they might be willing to at least allow the iraqis to do cross-border attacks or do them themselves or do we wait

and have bashar al assad attack them and which means we are in line with -- >> thanks, richard engel. unbelievable. >> richard, thank you so much. joining us from washington is former national security adviser for president carter dr. zbigniew brzezinski. dad, let's start with the iran factor given what richard was just saying on that note. how does iran fit into a possible solution, or do they not, given their presence in this situation? >> i think iran could fit into a possible solution. it depends in part on us as well. the issue of iraq is not beyond the issue insofar as the united states/iranian relationship is concerned. we are engaged in a very sensitive and difficult negotiations regarding the nuclear problem. if we can manage to make some progress in that, i think we

could probably establish some modus operandi between our participation and saving what could be saved in iraq and the iranian interests in preserving at least the shiite parts of iran from sternal and dangerous control. so that is one element to be taken into account. the other element which is equally as important is stability in jordan. but stability in jordan is going to be affected not only by what is happening in syria, but also what is happening between israelis and the palestinians. if the president's tensions between the israelis and palestinians erupt into violence that would enhance the ability that jordan would also explode because jordan has a bedrock, strong community in which the state and its dynasty is based, but it has a lot of palestinian refugees from early on who are, obviously, affected what is

happening between the israelis and the palestinians across the line and now we have refugees from syria. if jordan explodes, it's going to really create a massive mess throughout the region. so some progress right now between the israelis and the palestinians would be welcome. i'm afraid the right wing in israeli, led by the prime minister, is maneuvering essentially to scuttle the incorporation of hamas into the palestinian authority p.m. the palestinian authority accepts israeli and wants peace with it, although it's hesitant about making the needed concessions. causing an eruption with hamas is going to undermine that. so we are dealing ear here with several volatile situations over which we are slowly losing political control. >> doctor, let's go back to the most volatile of elements you mentioned. go to baghdad. we heard richard engel reporting and heard other reports, american advisers on the ground

helping the iraqi government stem the tide of isis largely shiite isis. you've got a largely sunnis, all right? you've got now quds forces in baghdad supposedly helping out with the same effort. how does the iraqi government, with the complicit aid of the united states government and iranian government entail in an effort to kill more sunnis, the isis guys, how does that help resolve any situation in iraq, a country that has been buffeted for centuries by tribal war fare? >> first of all, it may prevent the fall of baghdad and total disintegration of whatever exists in iraq. that, i don't think, is preferable. but beyond that, i think what you said earlier is correct. the days of a unified iraq state ended largely as a result of the american invasion of iraq in

2003 and now we are living with the consequences of that action. what will happen probably is, in effect, a de facto partialing of iraq in shiite sections and sunni sections and on the margins of turkey we will watch carefully what the kurds do. the best we can hope for. they will not, if, at the same time, our negotiations with iran fail and here in degree of compromises needed both by the iranians and by us and we should try to settle the problem for the time being if we can. >> richard haass, bottom line is, though, this first step the press announced yesterday, we're back in because if that doesn't work, we do more. no? >> well, we are back in the middle east in the sense that -- >> in iraq. >> -- that we have no choice. iraq, we should not be back in to prop up this iraqi government and not back in to keep iraq intact. we have interests in the middle east in terms of it not

becoming -- >> what is the difference? >> president obama doesn't have these military advisers in to prop up maliki's government. >> but they are there at minimum to do counterterrorism which is fine. >> right. >> i think the big question mark over their role is how much are they there to work with the iran yaz and iraqis to keep iraq intact and that issue did not emerge clearly from yesterday's press conference. i do not think it's any more in the interest of the united states to do that. the days of an attack -- >> to do what? >> keep iraq as a single nation state. i think that has been eclipsed by history. >> wow. >> dr. brzezinski, would you agree with that? >> i agree with it but wouldn't say it formally as far as the united states is concerned. i think it's a fact of life. we have to prop up what can be saved and prevent baghdad from falling but iraq is a viable entity, a national entity with somewhat of a vickion and we

demolished it starting in 2003. >> the unspoken priorities would be to save the kurds in the north, our allies, take care of our friends. the kurds in the north and take care of jordan and make sure that israeli doesn't launch on its own a nuclear strike against what is going on in iraq, and basically partition off iraq and let them go at it? is that the deal? >> and some accommodation with iran because iran can become a source of instability in the region if things get worse between them and us, or it can find some merit and its own national interests being served by some accommodation with us. of course, we all agree, i think, jordan has to be propped up as much as and what happens across the jordan river is important for jordan's stability. >> that is really what is happening, this is just a huge out of control mess. i don't understand what good 300 military advisers is going to do for our interests. >> i don't know where it goes. >> this is the middle east looking like europe in the early 17th century. this is the 30-year war and these are political religious

struggles within countries across borders. this is going on for years. >> but hold on a second. i'm not saying this again. i've been the guy that was inspired dr. brzezinski by your words last week. if any man in america had a right to say i told you so going back to 2003, it would be you. i've seen all of the clips. yet, a week ago, you were talking about how we needed to come together as a country, that it didn't matter who was wrong in three. i would add it doesn't matter who is wrong with the surge in '07 or who was wrong about the exit in 2011. >> i agree -- i -- >> what i keep hearing, though, is that if we had just kept people there in 2011, this wouldn't be happening today. if saving iraq in 2011 were so easy, why would cobbling it, i'm not saying it is, why would cobbling it back together three years later be so impossible?

>> i think it's very unlikely in view of what we are seeing right now on the ground. but in any case, i fully agree with you. i don't think this is a time of arguing about the past, whether the recent past or a decade ago. i think the president took the right step yesterday in talking to some of the congressional leaders from both parties. i think the president represents a national interest. i think the country -- our country, i hope, is mature enough to realize there are l s limits what we can do in the region and perhaps air strikes to prevent the fall of baghdad is justified but beyond, that we have to accommodate to certain political realities and they include a significant role in the region for iran and a significant role in the region for saudi arabia, but not preventing civil wars in add joining states. accommodation between the israelis and the palestinians because that is a time bomb which, at some point, will go off and that will set off a whole new chain reaction of violence in the region.

>> dr. brzezinski, thank you so much. >> thanks, dad. >> it's great having you here. don't you find it curious? i do find it curious if it were so easy to save iraq in 2011, by just keeping a residual force there. none of us knows because a residual force wasn't kept there. how could tb a few years later it is impossible to put this country together and it looks like this? >> they could have been a deterrent for what shapg now. >> the argument it would have been dampened down the sectarian -- >> it is a legitimate argument. i understand, but would 5,000 u.s. troops have stopped this? maybe it would have. >> maybe it would of. we don't know. >> i still think -- i think the horrors of 2003, the mistakes of 2003, the lives of 2003 have hurt us in ways that go so far beyond iraq. it's why we didn't go into syria. it's why president obama didn't leave troops there in 2011.

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♪ a minnesota high school student is fighting back this morning against the punishment he received for a two-word tweet that he says was an attempt at sarcasm. nbc ron mott has the story. >> reporter: in this twitter sphere twitter can be found far fewer than 24 characters. for wade the words actually yeah in response to an anonymous question whether he made out with a female teacher got him suspended and investigated by police and eventually led him to transfer schools and now he is suing. >> he should understand there are ramifications for making remarks on this online but shouldn't have been suspended

and no crime committed mere. >> reporter: turns out he says he was just joking when answered yes. officials weren't laughing despite his apology. police say it was the teacher named in the original tweet whose reputation and working conditions suffered. >> she's been bullied and berated by students and i know this has become very difficult for her to even continue her teaching career. >> reporter: the lawsuit against the school district, police chief and others say reed's post was mented to be taken in jegis. he has render that sarcasm does not translate well over the internet and never intended for anyone to believe his post. his classmates protested braving minnesota's winter frost 5,000 signing an online petition. prosecutors have dropped the case. in a statement wednesday, the district said private educational data are involved and therefore it cannot disclose or discuss the matter. >> the school should have used this as a teachable moment to let all of the kids know about what is and is not appropriate

online. >> reporter: yet, another cautionary tale about social cuba and the whitening gray area it exposes. >> wow. still ahead on "morning joe," pope francis has been said to be ushering in a new progressive era for catholics but not the case for all issues. we will tell you which topic has the pope taking a very conservative stance. plus, he's the youngest living recipient of the medal of honor. we will have kyle carpenter's remarkable story ahead. >> you've lived your life ignoring these issues, it seems to me. >> yi didn't really feel like i had any other option. did you know, your eyes can lose vital nutrients as you age?

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crucial midterms? that's a good question. derrick hits has the numbers in the mojo polling place. >> reporter: the preliminary primary season is running down. the midterms quickly approaching. thus far, the races have produced both expected and unexpected results. including the first incumbent majority leader to lose in over 100 years. the gop has fared well in traditionally blue states and democrats mounting tough challenges in cripple son strongholds so what does it all mean? a poll of registered voters indicates the president's approval rating at all-time low and president's approval rating even lower. the president's competency rating is lower than george w. bush post-hurricane katrina. the gop may not want to celebrate just yet as the grand old party finds its aapproval numbers below freezing at 29% and lower than the democrats and represents.

when voters asked they preferred a democratic candidate over a republican candidate and the results indicated voters preferred democrats to be in control of congress and not the republicans. with clear voter dissatisfaction in the political air, and each the epa having a higher approval rating than both democrats and republicans, the political parties may want to take notice that a resounding 57% of voters believe it's time to give a new person a chance. the highest in over 20 years. >> wow. >> okay. >> i wonder what republicans think of the epa having a higher approval rating than them? >> now stop it. derrick joins us now. we have elections in -- '94, 2004 and 2010. what you're looking at does it sugar perhaps another wave in 2014? >> one of the interesting thing about the numbers the president's approval rating is the lowest it's been which is an indicator the republicans, because he is, obviously, a democrat, would be sweeping into congress. >> you'd think. >> however, the problem is that congress itself has the lowest approval rating it's had in the history of america.

they are single digits at some point in time. >> the republicans approval rating lower than democrats? >> by ten poise on. republicans approval rating is 29%. >> isn't that unbelievable, mark halpern, that the republicans approval rating 10 percentage points lower than the democratic approve rating even though the president has a low approval rating himself. >> they have done nothing to improve their brand and unhappiness on the left who think the republican party is conservative but a lot of tea party people think the party is not conservative enough. >> derrick, this sounds like an electorate that is ready for a revolt. >> 57% of the public saying it's time for a change. meaning congress is bad and my congressman is also bad and one of the first times we have seen that. >> usually people hate chronic and love their own congressman or congresswoman. derrick, thank you.

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our giraffe has a name, i assume. >> yes, this is russell, the electric giraffe. russell is actually my programmer, who's actually inside this machine. he's inside as well. when we interact and touch him, you'll actually hear russell's voice. i welded it altogether myself. give him a tickle right here. >> that tickles. >> that's cute! earlier this week president obama hosted the white house maker fair meeting with entrepreneurs and inventors who are hoping to pave the way for an american manufacturing comeback. with us manager of corporate programs at chevron, blair blackwell. chevron gave a multimillion dollar grant to promote science and technology and women. lots of women at that event. >> there were lots of women at the event. it was very exciting to see, as the maker movement. we gave $10 million to the fab foundation to create fab labs in

areas across the country that chevron has operations. what's so exciting about that is the opportunity for those that are coming together in the fab labs and in the maker movement, students, entrepreneurs, engineers to create, to work on projects that they're passionate about. >> this is really looking forward and trying to get the next generation of women, you know, connected with s.t.e.m. and companies like yours and actually staying there. you have the average amount of women working at chevron. >> about 25%. >> you want to grow those numbers, but you have found that you are retaining women. companies really struggle with that. what do you think the secret is behind that? >> you know, i think the secret is ensuring -- as we were speaking about, some of our most senior women executives started with chevron and have stayed there all the way through. >> that's impressive. >> it's very important the mentoring piece, and that's something that we see as the work i do getting girls engaged early is through role models. as girls move into the

university, and what we see is girls move through that and into careers that the numbers drop. even though you have about 20% of women in engineering in college, those numbers begin to drop as you look ten years out. are they still in those engineering careers. >> we need to nudge those numbers up. i had a ceo tell me recently the problem is that women often don't come and say, listen, i bring so much value to the table but got some kids right now. here's what i need to make this work. i need this or go part-time. they don't even do that, they just leave. to be able to retain high levels of women, that is a feat. >> i think it's a lot about having regular touch points throughout the year and ensuring that women and young women as they come into the company, they get the type of training, executive training that they need and also that they get the support. whether that's from -- at chevron i feel like i've got some tremendous women role models to look up to that have made careers within the company. but also it's having -- you know, my boss is a man and he's

got two young girls at home and he's got a wife who's worked within chevron too and so he's incredibly supportive of my career. and i think having those opportunities to regularly provide support and encourage women as they move up through their career to also have the confidence really to speak up in meetings. that's something i think women are perfectionists. we want to wait until we have all of the answers. >> instead of guys who just go forward without any answers. i'm serious, it's unbelievable. you guys just make up stuff. you do. and then it comes true. they're confident. >> one of the things that's really exciting about some of the partnerships that we have with organizations like tech ridge girls and with project lead the way is that early on through working in engineering programs and through having exposure to science and math, they recognize that, you know, part of that engineering process is you try something, it doesn't necessarily work, but you fix it. and so getting that confidence

to know you don't have to be perfect the first time, that actually the learning and the innovation comes through trying things again and again. >> that's a learning curve for women. blair blackwell, thank you so much. great to have you on the show again. come back soon. up next, possibly big problems for wisconsin governor scott walker as newly released court documents put him at the center of a criminal campaign finance scheme. and the city of detroit finally has a plan to rebuild. michigan governor rick schneider will join us to explain how in just a bit. plus the city of new york has agreed to a settlement for the central park five. we remember what that infamous case did to this city next on "morning joe." there are no bran? 24/7 i'm sorry- i'm just really reluctant to try new things. really? what's wrong with trying new things? you feel that in your muscles? yeah...i do... drink water. it's a long story. well, not having branches lets us give you great rates and service.

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♪ good morning! it is friday, june 20th. welcome to "morning joe." with us on set we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle. hi, mike. >> hello, mika. >> and "morning joe" contributor mark halperin. >> good morning, mika. >> and in washington -- don't laugh, pulitzer prize-winning call columnist and msnbc contributor, eugene robinson. >> why don't you want mark to laugh? >> he's injured, so nobody talk to him. >> can we ask? >> no. it was dangerous. it was something he was doing and he had an accident. >> is that why he's wearing glasses? are those protector glasses? >> don't talk to him. oh, my god, don't make him

laugh. are you okay, mark? >> just let me stay in my zen-like state. >> you have like five broken ribs. >> are you all right? >> i'm all right. >> don't laugh or cough. >> no laughing or coughing. just chatting. >> what happened? >> i had a little tumble, that's all. >> when's that? >> over the weekend. i'm good, though. heavily medicated. >> oh, that's wonderful. >> now we all have something in common. >> when i start talking about the japanese tie in the world cup, then you'll see enthusiasm. >> let's do it. >> we have got a lot of stories to get to this morning. >> we really do, mika. >> including a dire situation in iraq where the obama administration must decide to send more u.s. troops to the country or watch it fall into civil war. >> and a cautionary tale of how just two words can create a firestorm of controversy. the latest example of how you need to be really careful about what you say on social media.

>> you have to really think about that. plus liuis suarez has a pai of beautiful goals. >> gene, you know i watch english soccer every weekend for about nine months a year and i think these guys are great. everybody says they're the best in the world and then they fold like a rusty lawn chair every four years at the world cup. it is terrible. their performance yesterday just -- just depressing, if you like england. >> it wasn't very good, was it? they just -- you know, they just can't perform on the big stage. plus, luis suarez, come on, the guy knows how to score goals. >> he's just the best in the world. >> he's a fairly objectionable human being, actually, i should point out. he's not a nice guy. but boy, anywhere near the goal, he just has that instinct, that killer instinct, and he's going to put it in the net. >> he really does. he had an incredible game yesterday. the world cup is really providing this shocks.

spain out. england may be out. except if italy wins and takes out costa rica, he expects a kiss from the queen. >> on the cheek. >> on the cheek. >> and i do believe anybody who knows how crazy england is about their soccer team at the world cup. >> he might get it. >> i think he might get it from the queen. the kiss. >> it's possible, on the cheek, is what he might get. boy, there's so many political stories percolating under the surface. it may have an impact on 2016. >> a lot of i'm sorries going around. first, details about a criminal investigation involving wisconsin governor scott walker could impact his re-election chances and a potential run for president. according to newly released documents, prosecutors claim the republican played a key role in a criminal scheme to coordinate the fund-raising of outside groups. the groups were focused on helping walker and other republicans defeat recall efforts in 2011 and 2012.

prosecutors say one e-mail from governor walker to karl rove highlighted how walker's chief campaign strategist was leading the alleged scheme. officials have not filed any charges against governor walker, and he denies any wrongdoing. >> i ask people to look at the facts. the facts are pretty clear. a judge at the state and federal level made it clear that they didn't buy into this argument. they said to move on. >> so what's happening here, mark? obviously you already have one potential 2016 candidate for the republican party under a cloud of investigation in new jersey. scott walker seen as a hero by many republicans, another possible front runner in 2016, now he's under investigation. tell me about the charges. >> this is not an indictment, it's part of an investigation. it's a complicated series of lawsuits and counter charges. there's no doubt that when he was facing recall and some state senators were facing recall that he played a big role in trying to help raise enough money to

fight off the opposition. >> that's not illegal. but what are his critics alleging is illegal? >> that there was coordination about raising money and how to spend it in order to fight these elections. >> do the charges look legitimate? does scott walker have a lot to worry about? >> i think he's got something to worry about in the following sense. he has not shown an ability, a great ability to handle national scrutiny. when he's gotten it sometimes, he's not been as strong as he has been in wisconsin. >> but what about the chaurnlrg does it look like he broke the law? >> i think there are things that are technically a problem but i don't think he'll be indicted. but he's in a tough re-election fight and it could create enough doubt amongst people in wisconsin to cost him re-election. if he doesn't win re-election, people won't be talking about him as a presidential candidate, but i bet he's not indicted. >> it's a very close race and it has been locked up for quite some time. let's get to the apologies

now. apologies, apologies. texas republican governor rick perry is acknowledging another moment that he wishes he could take back. the possible 2016 candidate who infamously drew a blank during the 2012 presidential debate faced criticism last week for seeming to compare homosexuality to alcoholism. here's a little part of what he said. >> whether or not you feel compelled to follow a particular lifestyle or not, you have the ability to decide not to do that. and i made the point of talking about alcoholism. i may have -- i may have the genetic coding that i'm inclined to be an alcoholic, but i have the desire not to do that. and i look at the homosexual issue as the same way. >> governor perry -- it doesn't get better watching that. governor perry says he used a poor choice of words at a

christian science monitor event. he admits, quote, he stepped right in it, adding in part, quote, i got asked about an issue and instead of saying, you know what, we need to be a really respectful and tolerant country and get back to talking about whether you're gay or straight, you need to be having a job. >> right. >> okay. >> and just breaking this down, what he said last week, that he's apologizing for this week, most likely would not hurt him in the iowa caucuses or south carolina. it's shocking to a lot of people in manhattan, it's shocking to a lot of people in washington, d.c. i don't know that it is shocking to 50%, 60% of the republican base. and please take up that debate with 60% of the republican base, i'm talking about sheer politics here. >> that's probably changing a little bit. there is a base that will not be bothered by it. i wasn't as bothered by his comparison of alcoholism as the

core of what he said. you can wake up one morning and decide not to be gay. that was the point he made. that's a pretty radical thing to say. >> yeah, that is. mike barnicle. >> i don't understand why so many of these candidates find it so hard just to be normal. just to have a normal human response. fine, you're gay, fine. nobody cares. let's just move on. >> i don't think we should overstate the walk-back here. all he's basically saying is let's talk about the economy. republicans should just talk about the economy. he's not changing his position, he's just saying i shouldn't be talking about my position. >> well, but even that, though, is significant for a republican party that gets itself in trouble every four years in early primary states by obsessing over immigration, by obsessing over gay issues, gay marriage, by obsessing over contraceptions. i actually think the walk-back, if you're a republican strategist, if you're hailey barbour this morning, you're thinking, hey, it's a pretty good sign that the governor from texas is saying let's not talk

about gay marriage, let's talk about whether straight, gay, all americans are getting good jobs or not. is that not a bit significant -- >> he's trying to compete in florida and ohio, he'll be drawn back into those discussions and his positions are still his positions. >> okay. >> which is, that the republican party shouldn't be obsessing about gay marriage, it should be obsessing about jobs. and i think -- i think that's a positive step forward. >> if he stayed consistent and never deviated, but let's see what happens when he gets asked about it again. >> can i, for balance now, go to a democratic apology for a stupid statement? >> that sounds great. >> governor perry is not the only possible 2016 candidate saying saury. former montana governor brian schweitzer is apologizing for comments he made. the democrat said southern men, including republican congressman eric cantor are, quote, a little effeminate. i can't believe this. and that the outgoing congressman -- >> i've got parts of the south i'd like to take that.

>> set off his, quote, gaydar. mr. schweitzer also used offensive language to discuss the relationship between. cia and dianne feinstein. in a post on facebook, the former governor writes i've recently made a number of stupid and insensitive remarks to a reporter from the national journal, i'm deeply sorry and sincerely apologize for my carelessness and disregard. democratic campaign against hillary clinton over? >> no. >> that guy is great to spend time with, but he says goofy stuff with a lot of regularity. i've never taken him seriously as a challenger to her in part because he's a little loose. >> we keep talking about him as a 2016 contender. where's that coming from other than from him? >> there's a vacuum. >> good point. although those comments were outrageous. okay, moving on, this was one of the most explosive crimes in new york city history, and it appears the company is finally closing in on a settlement of the wrongful convictions of the men who became known as the

central park five. remember this? "the new york times" reports they have agreed to a $40 million settlement over their wrongful arrests and imprisonment. the crime itself and the legal battle that followed came to symbolize a troubled time when crime was far more prevalent. it all started back in 1989, when prosecutors said a band of young people had mercilessly beaten and sexually assaulted a jogger. they called it wilding and it was common during that era in the city. the victim was a 28-year-old investment banker who later came forward to reveal herself. the suspects were black and hispanic, aged 14 to 16, at the time of their arrests. the sensational media coverage of the event only fanned the flames of a city already divided along racial lines. the suspects made incriminating statements about themselves to investigators, statements they say were coerced by authorities. here's how a "today" show

report -- here's a "today" show report from the time. >> there was no solid evidence linking the defendants to the crime. no finger prints, no blood matches. the prosecution's strongest weapon came from the teenagers themselves in written and taped confessions. >> where did he hit her with the brick? >> around the face and up here. >> defense lawyers argued the teenagers were pressured into confessing, that they were victims of a biased legal system, anxious to solve a crime against a white woman. >> all five were convicted in two separate trials. the d.a. discovered new evidence in 2002 that exonerated all of the suspects. the legal battle over restitution has continued for more than 25 years with the city admitting its investigators made mistakes, but in good faith. attorneys for the central park five say it was a racially motivated conspiracy, something the city had contested through the bloomberg administration. >> mike barnicle, our friend ken

burnes took this on. >> yeah, his daughter in the documentary. >> in the documentary and has been talking about this for some time. you just mention the year to new yorkers, 1989 -- >> and that particular incident. >> that incident and you talk about 1989. there was a bleakness in this city. it was -- talk about a city on edge, and this story symbolized it more than any other story. now we learn all these years later this horrendous story about how these five, who were set up, as just public enemies, numbers one through five -- >> their lives ruined. >> it would be hard to overestimate the impact that had in the city at that time. new york city at that time, 1989, was an entirely different city than it is now. even the geography of the city was different. >> it was unbelievably different. >> but i can clearly, vividly recall the coverage of that case. i mean the city just springs and

bolts of the city's underpinnings breaking loose. this was the example of a city on the decline, really rapid decline. i don't believe it was a conspiracy among the police. it was an injustice, obviously, but i don't think there was any conspiracy involved. >> gene robinson. >> yeah. conspiracy? it certainly was, number one, a rush to judgment. number two, there was pressure on the police to solve this case. >> enormous. >> and, you know, five black and hispanic teenagers looked guilty. that's where the fingers were pointing in 1989 as people experienced what was happening in new york. so i think it was -- you know, conspiracy may not be the right word, but there was something like that. >> certainly a rush to judgment. >> absolutely. >> involving not just the police, but the media and the

whole city, that made it impossible for these guys to be looked at fairly, i think, and those confessions, you know, they were coerced. i mean they were dragged out of those kids in a way that -- well, look, the city is paying $40 million. >> gene, this reminds me too, i was a teenager growing up in the new york area in 1989. i remember this so well. it was sort of do the right thing time, where you had this simmering racial tension everywhere you looked and this brought it all to the forefront. the only thing i would say is $40 million i guess is nice, but one of these guys was in jail for 13 years. 13 years. the other four were in jail for seven years. they never get that time back. their lives were ruined and changed forever. it's a terrible travesty and a black eye on a great city. still ahead with the threat of nazi germany looming large, fdr had one place to turn to build machine's war machine. the new book that explains how

detroit helped save the world. up next, he fell on a grenade to save his fellow marines and now he has the nation's highest military award. the remarkable story behind william kyle carpenter next. plus the cia's secret plot to defeat al qaeda, and osama bin laden has something to do with barbie dolls. i swear. first, here's bill karins with a check on the forecast: he's like a ken doll. good morning, everyone. minneapolis, we had torrential rains yesterday. now we have flooding to deal with on the mississippi river. we also last night had a mudslide. look at the side of the hill right there by the hospital, slid down into the river. we are going to be watching the mississippi river cresting in the region over the upcoming weekend. look at how much rain fell. so far in june from sioux city to sioux falls and minneapolis, all of those locations over 10 inches of rain. some areas over a foot. now, of course, the missouri river and also the mississippi river we have major flooding that's going to take place. thankfully it's going to go

down. we get two dry days before the rain returns on sunday. just some showers in the great lakes today. this afternoon, a normal weather pattern now. no more of those tornados. here's your weekend forecast. beautiful in new england this weekend. the southeast will be a little stormy. even on saturday if you have any beach plans from the outer banks of north carolina through areas around ocean city, maryland, we're going to see some rain and clouds. by sunday the east coast will clear out as the storminess returns to the middle of the country. there's no hope for any rain whatsoever on the west coast, where interior california remains very warm. we leave you with a shot of new york city. it doesn't get much better than this. low humidity, sunshine, temperatures in the low 80s for the foreseeable future. what a forecast. you're watching "morning joe."

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time now to take a look at the morning papers. "the washington times," the libyan machine suspected of leading the attack on the benghazi is speaking freely with u.s. investigators. officials are considering transporting ahmed abu khattala to a prison here in the u.s. since his capture he has been held on the uss new york in international waters. and from the "jackson clarion ledger." a 24-year-old marine seriously injured after jumping on a dp grenade is now the youngest person to receive the medal of honor. peter alexander has his story.

>> reporter: kyle carpenter shouldn't be alive. not cruising down an open road, not returning to classes at the university of south carolina this fall. >> i've been given this second chance to do good things and enjoy the life, the second chance that i've been blessed with. >> reporter: he's 24 now but marine corporal carpenter was just 21 when he earned the medal of honor. that's him in afghanistan's helmand province, a taliban strong hold, where an enemy grenade exploded on the roof where he and another marine were standing guard. >> what was running through your head? >> i felt like warm water was being poured over me, which was my blood. i thought of my family and how devastated they were going to be and how upset they were going to be that i was killed in afghanistan. >> reporter: he smothered the blast to protect his best friend, who's still recovering from his wounds. carpenter woke up six weeks later, both ear drums blown out, shrapnel removed from his brain. nearly 40 surgeries.

>> you've lived your life ignoring these injuries, it seems to me. >> i don't feel like i have an option. >> reporter: the way he's living his life, running the marine corps marathon, skydiving and all along inspiring others with his story of sacrifice and resilience. last summer carpenter retired from the military, never expecting that he'd later hear from his former commander in chief. >> fine, sir, how are you? >> they are going to award you for your actions in afghanistan during operation enduring freedom. >> reporter: carpenter accepted that honor. >> if any american seeks a model of strength and resilience that define us as a people, including this newest 9/11 generation, i want you to consider kyle. >> reporter: an american hero for all generations. >> oh, what a story. marine corporal carpenter will be our guest on "morning joe" next wednesday. >> and you saw his mother when he got the news. >> it looks like a great family.

i can't wait to hear more about them. let's go to the "washington post." the cia used toys to weaken the influence of osama bin laden. the agency developed a bin laden action figure around 2005. it's hard to look at this. at first glance -- they're scary. at first glance the toy's face looked just like bin laden but when faced with heat, the paint dissolves. bin laden's face looked like the devil with red and black face and paint and green eyes. the goal was to scare children away from bin laden. the cia says that only three po prototypes were made and it never went to market. >> it looks like darth mal for star wars geeks. i think kids would snap that up. thank you, cia. "the los angeles times," a long-time songwriter of carol king has passed away. carole king wrote more than 50 top 40 songs such as "you make

me feel like a natural woman." just an extraordinary song-writing pair. they were married in 1959, divorced nine years later. their story is subject to the broadway hit musical. he is survived by his wife, michelle, and his five children. he was 75 years old and our thoughts are with the entire family, including our dear friend carole. >> absolutely. what iconic music. pope francis has been called progressive, but there's at least one issue where he's not looking for change. the pontiff is pushing back hard against the legalization of recreational drugs. he is criticizing efforts to pave the way for easier access to drugs, including marijuana, which is playing out everywhere from uruguay to south america, to colorado and washington here in the states. the pope is taking a stand on pot. >> yep, he certainly is. willie geist, it's time for politico.

>> all right. with us now the chief white house correspondent at politico, mr. mike allen with a look at his world famous playbook. mike, good morning. >> good morning, willie, and happy friday. >> there it is, happy friday to you, mike. let's talk about new jersey governor chris christie for a moment. later today he's giving a big speech. what's he talking about and why are so many people watching? >> this is amazing. chris christie will be here in d.c. today talking to the faith and freedom coalition. this is the pro-family group that was started by ralph reed. and there's a sneak peek at his remarks, which are very fascinating. he's going to talk about drug addiction and how for someone that's like pro-choice, like he is, that looking out for people who are addicted to drugs is very much in line with that view of looking out for your neighbor, treating your neighbor with respect. governor christie back in april said that he had a friend who for ten years had fought drug addiction and he lost him. apparently this had a real impact on the governor. the governor speaking to this

christian conservative group today. we're told he won't use text, that he'll just speak from notes. and he's going to say that if you can help someone who's drug addicted, that you should be able to give then the tools to help fix their own life. so this is compassionate, conservatism with a different label saying treat our neighbors with respect. he's going to say drug addiction can happen to anyone at any time. it's a disease. and, willie, this is part of the sort of broader republican interest in criminal justice reform. we've heard rand paul also talk a lot about this. governor christie has said that he's for sentencing reform for first-time offenders of drug offenses. it's part of saving money. >> mike allen, thanks, mike. up next, a big moment in detroit's fight to make its way out of bankruptcy. michigan governor rick snyder is here to explain how the city's grand bargain works. plus a story that reminds us just how important detroit has

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welcome back to "morning joe." it's time for business before the bell with sara eisen.

obviously a lot of unrest in iraq. how's that impacting the oil prices? >> well, so far this morning, joe, it's flat, the oil price. but people on wall street are going to be watching it. you know, it's been amazing to watch the stock market over the last few sessions. five days straight of gains. we'll see if we can make it number six. 21 record high closings for 2014. >> that's amazing. >> it really has been an unbelievable run. yes, watching the price of oil, we're already starting to feel that elevated gas price for consumers. what's most interesting is it hasn't exactly spiked because most of the oil supply remains intact in iraq but traders are keeping an eye on that this morning. the other thing i want to bring up, more pain for the fast food business as mcdonald's got some rough news from a customer satisfaction survey ranking it last among fast food. and darden restaurants, which owns olive garden and red lobster just came out this morning with very disappointing earnings and sales. so it's just pressure on these fast food chains as consumers go

to more fast casual like panera bread and chipotle. >> i need to take mika to olive garden, and get the tour of italy. i can only say if mcdonald's is rated last in customer service, obviously a survey of communists. sara, explain really quickly, explain, so iraq is on fire. you've got instability in the energy markets. >> yep. >> middle america is flat. the economy is flat. and yet wall street keeps setting new records every day. why? >> i don't even need 15 seconds. janet yellen, the federal reserve, indicated she's going to stay on easy street. zero interest rates and that just juices the stock market. it's been the story the last few years. she said this week nothing is going to change any time soon. >> free money. money for nothing. >> sara eisen, thank you so much. >> good to see you. >> have a good weekend. it's being called detroit's grand bargain.

have you heard about this? it's a $195 million bankruptcy settlement that would minimize pension cuts for retirees as well as state legal costs. michigan governor rick snyder is expected to sign it into law today. and he joins us now live from detroit. governor, good morning. welcome to the show. welcome back. >> good morning. it's great to be with you again, and i'm going to sign this legislation. it's exciting for detroit and for michigan. >> well, what does it do, governor? >> it's really part of a grand bargain where we have the foundation community, the detroit institute of arts, labor and the state coming together to provide extra resources to really cushion the blow to retirees for this difficult bankruptcy. and it really creates an environment where hopefully we can all move forward in a very constructive way. detroit is coming back and this will help accelerate that. >> everybody has had to give a little to make this happen. mike barnicle, jump in. >> governor, what does it do to existing pensions, for those who are currently on pension and

those pensioners who will retire five, ten years from now? what are the percentage basis in terms of cuts or whatever? >> yeah, without this, the cuts could be quite severe. for general retirees, it could be over 20%. for police and fire, they could lose all their cost of living increases. with this grand bargain, with these additional resources, the cut could be as low as 4% for general retirees and they could keep part of their cost of living if they're police and fire, so it makes a major difference. >> governor, mark halperin here. you said detroit is coming back. this deal today is part of that. just tell people what else is coming down the pipeline now that you think is going to be part of bringing the city and the state back. >> well, troilt detroit is alre coming back. most people don't know. young professionals want to live in detroit to the point where occupation see is 98% in downtown and midtown detroit. there's so many exciting projects to come. there's a new arena coming, a light rail project.

detroit is one of the in places to be for the long term. as we resolve this bankruptcy, detroit will be more exciting so it's a great message to get out to share with the rest of the world. >> we've seen some of that on our visits to detroit. there's been a real population decline in the city itself. what is detroit doing, what are you doing to try to get more people to move back into the city, not just into the main center? >> yeah, well there are still serious issues. we can't forget the neighborhoods. we need to do more there and that's part of the program, so that's improve public safety, trash pickup, lighting, all those things going on. in terms of being really innovative, one of the proposals we put on the table to the federal government is about asking for 50,000 visas for highly skilled immigrants to come to detroit to live and work for five years. that would be a huge economic boom. >> governor, is there anything in this grand bargain that will deal with the issue of abandoned housing in the city of detroit? >> well, the grand bargain is part of an overall settlement

that if it moves forward, we need the retirees to vote yes and the bankruptcy judge to approve it. as part of that there's roughly $450 million to help deal with blight on an ongoing basis in the city and that's a significant investment and could make a big difference. >> governor rick snyder, always good to see you. thank you very much, and good luck. speaking of detroit, we have a story coming up next from world war ii that really epitomizes just how important the motor city is to the country. how one company there answered the call to take on hitler and nazi germany. stay with us, we'll be right back. bill have you seen my keys anywhere?

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welcome back. here with us now, author a.j. bane out with a new book "the arsenal of democracy, fdr, detroit and an epic quest to arm an america at war." very good to have you on the show. >> so nice to be on the show, thank you. >> so we're talking about ford, aren't me? >> among many other things, yeah. >> ford, detroit, and a relationship between a father and a son and the need for supplies. tell us the concept and why you became so interested in writing about this. >> well, this book is really sort of a prequel to -- i wrote a book about the ford empire during the 1960s. it's really based on a motor racing rivalry. i was researching that and there was all this material from world war ii i was seeing and this amazing industrial adventure in the ford empire. it's a brilliant story full of brilliant characters. it's also a very dark story in certain places. i couldn't help myself. four years later, here we are. >> explain -- four years later, explain what that industrial

adventure was. >> well, the fords built -- before pearl harbor they began this adventure to build the biggest airplane factory anywhere in the world, the largest factory of any kind under one roof to turn the biggest, most destructive bomber in our arsenal at the time into the most mass produced military aircraft of all time. i'm going to give away the ending but the b-24 liberator is the most mass produced to this day. >> for people who view detroit through the prism of the 21st century, abandoned housing, city always on the verge of bankruptcy, actually in bankruptcy for a period of time, from world war ii, world war ii detroit, what detroit meant to this country, the existence of this country, the existence of freedom in the world, the numbers there are staggering. give us some of what detroit did to contribute to the world. >> here's a very to very easily sum that up. this book is really about the greatest collective achievement of any american city in our

nation's history without a doubt. so at the beginning of the war fdr saw this losing war. we were great underdogs. hitler had been preparing for this war for years. he gave the speech called the arson of democracy and the idea was to join free enterprise, government and military into this one fighting force. he turned to detroit to play the starring role, because the war was really shaping up to be a contest of mass production. an if it was going to be a contest of mass production, who could beat the american automobile companies. >> besides fdr, tell us about one of your favorite characters in the book. >> etzel ford. >> tortured son. >> the tortured son. he was not -- he was for bidden from serving in world war i and his whole life was a quest for honor. you know, when the "wall street journal" came out with a review of my book, arthur herman, wonderful writer, really zeroed in on that aspect of the book which gave me great satisfaction because etzel ford deserved his

due. to me he was a great war hero. he built this great factory while dying of cancer and did not in fact live to see it completed. >> how old was he when he died? >> i believe he was 49, and he died in 1943. he was the president of ford motor company for more than half of his life. >> they made an incredible promise when they were asked to help, when detroit was asked to help. it would be a bomber an hour. was that completely unrealistic? >> well, imagine this, no airplane -- there's a great theme in the book, an important theme in the book is the rise of american air power. no airplane had ever been mass produced. and this was not just any airplane, it was the biggest. it weigh ed 56,000 pounds fully loaded, four engines, 4800 horsepower. can you imagine building a factory to spit out one of these every hour. by the end of the war, it was every 58 minutes. >> i forget the exact number but

it's close to it, i believe. from january, 1942, through august of 1945 on assembly lines were automobiles, ford automobiles were mass produced to be sold to customers, they only sold like 15 cars commercially in the united states. everything else was war-related. plane parts, planes themselves. >> absolutely. and you know it's fascinating, but that's true of every factory in every town and every city in america at the time. as fdr said, every single man, woman and child is a partner in the most tremendous undertaking in our history. we as writers, we love narrative, we love boy gets girl, boy loses girl and boy gets girl back. you know, it's fascinating to think now when we talk about how detroit played the starring role and what the arsenal of democracy was. people should realize that everything went drastically wrong in 1942. this didn't happen easily. i mean it was a disaster for all of 1942 and most of 19 f43 befo

we hit our peak. >> what's on the site of where that factory was? >> that's interesting that you should ask. willow run, the ford bomber plant, was taken over by a few different companies and ended up with general motors. they made chevrolets and transmissions there. and now when you drive by and you see it, and i've been there recently and i go. the wrecking balls are destroying this building. it's still there. and you can just see this mass of rubble. and there's amazing man named dennis norton who runs a little air museum called the yankee air museum. he's raised all this money to save the most important part of the bomber plant. when you see pictures you see huge garage doors with these bombers rolling out and that's going to become a magnificent world war ii museum. >> that's amazing. he's raising the money for that right now? >> i believe he's raised it. >> amazing. the book is "the arsenal of democracy." a.j.baime, thank you so much. the reason why this mug shot is taking the internet by storm, apparently.

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walker. >> loves rick perry, loves scott walker. >> no, no, no, i really don't. >> so usa-portugal on sunday. >> all of america should watch. don't be left out, america. watch what a billion plus other people around the world are interested in. >> well, "morning joe," which over a billion people watch and also the world cup. >> you just had one of your lifelong dreams just happen right now. >> i don't think i can say it for security reasons. anyway joe liverpool, even though suarez broke our heart yesterday, last second against england, but we'll see. we'll see if bolatelli gets a kiss from the queen. >> if it's way too early it's "morning joe." >> now it's time for chuck todd and "the daily rundown." >> have a great weekend. >> have a great weekend. ♪

a lack of leadership. president obama publicly questions prime minister maliki quieting many of his critics, as a few hundred of american soldiers are on their way back to iraq. walker's woes, perry's pullback and schweitzer's screw-up. that's all in our friday focus of 2016. twists and turns this week. plus house republicans nail down their new leadership team. is speaker scalise in the future? and ending the embargo. young cubans are open to changing old ideas about cuba policy. and it's been shaping florida politics for decades. we'll talk about it. good morning from washington. it's friday, june 20th, 2014. this is "the daily rundown." last day of spring, how about that. so get ready for the mugginess. let's get right to my first reads of the morning. we begin with president obama's new strategy in iraq, one that's more akin to counterterrorism than a full-scale war.