place of refuge, but patients on manhattan's upper east side felt anything but safe when a bullet came flying through a window this morning and narrowly missed a 30-year-old woman. slight relief for folks in the upper midwest as we head into the weekend. the big sioux river in south dakota has crested, swelled by a crazy amount of rain. iowa and nebraska were also hit with severe flooding from this week's late spring storms. medical marijuana is coming to the state of new york. smoking it will still be against the law, but it will be available in vapor or edible form for people suffering from illnesses such as cancer and a.i.d.s. now, the rest of the day's news, including where in the world is krystal ball? find out on "the cycle." iraq is front and center once again this friday. government forces have said, not so fast, to those isil militants

who moved in on the country's largest oil refinery. it's now become an all-out battle for control. the iraqis are already beginning to receive the advice of the u.s. military in the form of about 300 military advisers, as the president calls them. they'll help the iraqis deploy their vast military resources in the most useful way possible. they'll also help gather intelligence so the iraqi military can further target their attacks on militants. but as the president said yesterday, it's up to the iraqis to fight this fight, and that has a lot of people concerned both here and there. nbc's ayman mohyeldin is in the northern part of the country in iraq's fourth largest city, erbil, home to a million and a half people caught in this conflict. also with us, former u.s. ambassador mark ginsburg, who advises the white house on mideast issues, dating back to the late '70s. ayman, we start with you. the president says we're sendin

a nice way of saying we're sending 300 of our toughest military folks. patrick murphy broke down who those folks will be. >> when you send 300 of our nation's best, the navy s.e.a.l.s, army rangers, they have a job to do, and they'll do their job. but they're going to be in these iraqi brigade headquarters throughout iraq. i was on one ten years ago. at night, they're going to get mortared. it's going to be from isis. they're going to be blending into the community. so they're going to see combat. >> ayman, when the president says he's sounding advisers, it sounds nice. when patrick murphy explains what that means, you understand this is a much tougher group of folks going over there. do you think their presence could escalate the situation or help calm it? >> well, it's certainly going to at least from the perspective of the iraqi army help them out. depending on the capabilities,

which, you know, are bar none better an far more superior than what the iraqi military has, their expertise, access to u.s. intelligence is going to help them at least be able to get the iraqi army back in shape. certainly their presence could help lift the morale of the iraqi army, perhaps their with them the kind of tactics that could help in battles like trying to retake the oil refinery. there's to doubt they will be in harm's way. but there are going to be challenges that the iraqi army has to address that american expertise with its combat experience in iraq and elsewhere around the world could help. iraq is really trying to retake territory, including iraq's second largest city of mosul. they need to find ways to redeploy thousands of soldiers back into that battlefield, back into that terrain. they're not going to simply be able to drive convoys through isis territory. so the american expertise is certainly going to be handy. but at the same time, the presence of american soldiers and the backing of the american

government to prime minister maliki is going to certainly be fueled by isis as propaganda to get more people to join the fight because they've always seen this as an ideological war with the west. the chance to fight americans back in iraq is always appealing to jihadists around the world, particularly here in iraq. >> all right, ayman. stay right there for us. we'll have more with you. ambassador, now to you. pretty much the same question. sending 300 of our best soldiers over there, to me, makes it seem like it becomes a little easier to get dragged into a larger war. what does that message say to you? >> well, i don't know if there's any good options here, toure. after all, the president at his west point speech a few weeks ago laid out that the american mission in the middle east and elsewhere is to be engaged in counterterrorism. there's no more of a danger right now than the spread of this so-called isis organization. so the president shouldn't be, shall we say, reluctant to commit the american military resources to do that job.

let's also remember, the secretary strife that's been gripping iraq has been going on for over a year. and it became so normal that this administration took its eye off the ball. now all of the sudden because of isis, we're being dragged back in to a situation that if but for isis we probably would have ignored for the next year to come. >> ambassador, with the president sending these advisers over there and hinting in his remarks yesterday at the possibility of air strikes to come, how is that likely to be received by other governments in the region? will they be pleased to see the u.s. stepping in and possibly helping to stabilize the situation, or is it likely to be viewed as an unwanted intrusion in the region? >> you know, every time it breaks down to sectarian strife and sectarian hatred between sunni and shiite, you have to ask yourself, where do all these countries in the middle east line up? for example, qatar, who are allegedly our ally, has been providing most of the military and financial assistance to isis. so you have to ask yourself,

where does qatar line up on this? but it's quite clear that the saudis, the egyptians, as well as the jordanians and lebanese, and particularly israelis, are interested in seeing iraq not break up. irrespective of iran's influence on iraq, the role that isis is going to play and the sunni uprising again can only destabilize and spread that cancer that grew out of syria because of that civil war. what we're seeing here is really -- and again, the next concentric circle of hostilities and civil strife is a result of what took place in syria that's just plagying out further in iraq. >> and ayman, as we see these advisers about to come, this is a role that iran has already been playing in iraq. they have their own military advisers over there trying to assist the iraqi military. how is that going to work with us and iran being there at the

same time? >> well, i think in one word, it's going to work very delicately. i don't think iran is going to have the same type of direct access to the senior leadership, if you will, of the iraqi military on a day-to-day basis. the iranian military and paramilitary forces deal on a much more intimate level with shia militias, shia politicians, and perhaps more of the shia military groups and their close affiliation with political parties and religious figures. that's where you're going to see iran play much more of that role. the americans will be playing a more tactical role at the senior level of officers, perhaps intelligence sharing. you can expect it to be two opposite ends of the spectrum but no doubt working towards the same objective. communication will certainly be relayed at some level between the two sides when it comes to shared interests on the battlefield. >> ayman, your old pal luke russert here. one thing i do not feel has

gotten a lot of attention is the role of the kurds throughout this process. they have moved on another city. they've taken a lot of refugees fleeing the violence. what is the future the kurds play in the new iraq, and will they give up any territory they've already gotten throughout this process? >> well, any territory they've gained now, particularly in the oil-rich city, it's going to be very hard for them to give up. i doubt any of them will give it up politically. in fact, they'll turn and say, when we were trying to share this with you guys, it didn't work. the iraqi army entirely melted away, and we had to take control of the city to protect our own interests, to protect the citizens. now they're also making the argument that the region of kurdistan has been the only place for sunnis. they're now turning around and

saying, we are the most process pous part of this country. we're the most stable part. and they have been critical of the united states for the past several years supporting the iraqi central army in baghdad, putting millions of dollars in resources there and not giving it to the kurds. now they're pointing the finger saying, we told you so. so their power has been enhanced by this crisis. they now have much bigger stake in the country with some of the kurdish leadership saying this is an opportune time for them to continue to break away from the government, saying it's become extremely problematic for them to be associated with iraq at large, and they have national aspirations. but there are also geopolitical realities, that once, if kurdistan were to become an independent country, it would be landlocked surrounded by hostile states. that right now is the reality that would make it impossible for them to be independent so soon. >> ambassador, it seems a huge

part of the problem is maliki and he's not able to govern everyone in the nation. do we need a change at the top to get to some level of piece? >> it's interesting you ask that question. there was just an election in iraq. his party and his coalition actually emerged as the more dominant coalition. so parliament was supposed to meet next week and form a new government with him being re-elected as the prime minister. listen, if you were to ask me if that's the smartest move on the part of the iraqi people, i would say no. and no doubt since his last election, he's done everything reverse than what anyone would want him to do. he's taken over portfolios. he's the defense minister. he's the finance minister. he's become in some respects a sort of pseudo shiite dictator. he dreams that there's conspiracies of sunnis and others about to turn him in, and more importantly, he has purged everiesy s aspecs aspect of hisd

government of sunnis who could have cooperated and in effect not provide the support that isis is getting in the sunni triangle now that ayman so aptly and correctly pointed out. by the way, let me just add that, luke, the spiritual leader of the shiites in iraq came out today and suggested it was time for maliki to step aside. that may very well mean the short end soon of his reign as prime minister because he is no good and nothing can be good coming of iraq as long as he remains as prime minister. >> all right. thank you very much, ambassador, and ayman mohyeldin in iraq. up next, remember how america's governors were supposed to be that last vestige of political sanity and progress? somebody forgot to tell them that. it's friday, june 20.

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it's been said governors are the answer to the gridlock in the beltway. in fact, a number of them have been mentioned as presidential contenders. >> hold on, sister. where did you come from? yeah -- >> you know where i came from. >> you ran from the other studio, which is far away. this is compelling video. look at you getting made up on the fly. >> i had to get my running shoes on. i was ready to go. >> wow. let's see -- let's see how fast you go. >> not very. >> did we time this? is there a stopwatch? >> next time. >> wow. look at the hair flying. wow. >> wonder woman. >> this is our lovely hallway there. >> so far to go. >> it was a long way.

that was my workout of the day. i made it. >> you're winded. >> and there you guys are. >> cheering after a 2k. >> okay. anyway, as i was saying before i was rudely interrupted, it is not easy being a presidential contender or a krystal ball. case in point, wisconsin governor scott walker accused of running a criminal fundraising scheme. a federal lawsuit alleges walker coordinated spending and fundraising with conservative groups, never disclosing it in campaign finance reporting. meantime, new jersey governor chris christie could have the legal hammer put down on his office soon as well. "esquire" is reporting the u.s. attorney's office in new jersey is set to indict up to four christie aides in the bridgegate scandal. nbc news has not confirmed the accuracy of that report. and another texas-sized scandal for governor. rick perry, while in san francisco of all places, compared homosexuality to alcoholism. perry did not apologize for the

remark, but he did later admit that he had, quote, stepped in it. but scandal does not stop with republicans. brian schweitzer is also in hot water after questioning eric cantor's sexuality and implying that physical low democrat diane fein stat was a lady of the night. senator feinstein's response, you better keep him away from her husband. full disclosure, he's an msnbc contributor here. all right. it's going to be a busy first outing on "the cycle" for doug thornell, former press secretary for the democratic congress campaign committee. doug, let's start with scott walker here. you know, it's not clear whether he'll be in legal jeopardy or not. but it seems pretty clear his hopes of 2016 success may be fading. >> well, put aside 2016. in 2014 he's got a very tough re-election campaign against a

businesswoman named mary burke. that race is tied it at around 47/47. right now he had to go up with some negative ads. he's spending about $250,000 on a 12-day ad buy against her. i'm predicting right now on election day he's going to lose. and it's going to be -- >> whoa. >> yes, i think he's going to lose. i don't think there's more room for him to grow in wisconsin. basically, you know, people either like scott walker or they don't. there's only a few people who are undecided. mary burke's run a very strong campaign. the dga, emily's list are all very high on her. look, this undermines his main mantle of being a reformer. and having, you know, your evening news run saying, you know, you're part of this criminal scream, thheme, this i going to hurt him. put aside 2016. 2014, he's got real problems. >> doug, i want to expand on that a little bit. i put out the doug thornell

sirens. you're predicting a scott walker loss. that will be his third race in a period of four years, which is never an easy thing to do because he had to face the recall effort. being a democratic party insider, how much in terms of resources is the party going to put in for mary burke? are they going to go after walker to try and knock him off ahead of 2016? what's the sort of playbook against him this time around, because they weren't successful the other two times. >> well, the playbook is jobs. that's what mary burke is hitting him on. he made a promise of creating 250,000 jobs. he hasn't hit that mark. so mary burke is going after him on jobs. as far as your first question, yes, the dga and emily's list and, you know, a lot of other groups, they're all in on supporting mary burke and going after scott walker. i would imagine that the labor unions probably want some revenge. so he is a top target for the democratic party. they see this as a pick-up opportunity in 2014 along with

pennsylvania and florida, as far as governors races go. michigan is another one there, and maine. but this is right up there for a pick-up opportunity for democrats. >> it's going to be a tough one, though, doug, because scott's going to spend a lot of money. he's got some very rich friends. and the recall, he outspent his opponent i believe ten to one. so mary burke is going to have to overcome that sort of money hurdle. but i want to talk to you about rick perry, who said something rather, let's call it silly, this week. it actually started out fairly fine, i would judge, when -- it seemed to start in his mind as alcoholism and homosexuality are things you are born with, which is fine. a lot of people believe that. then it sort of went into both are things that you can and perhaps should change about yourself and resist, which then it goes into all levels of fail. you know, this is not perhaps the first time that we've caught rick perry, shall we say, speaking before he starts to

thinking. >> what are you talking about? i don't know what you're talking about. >> oops. >> i will tell you, it's three agencies of government when i get there that are gone. commerce, education, and the -- what's the third one there? let's see. >> five. >> commerce, education, and the -- >> epa? >> epa, there you go. >> seriously? >> you can't name the third one? >> this is a damaging moment for the governor, isn't it? >> yeah, i wonder if he actually ever remembered that agency he wanted to shut down. it's been a couple years. look, i think that he -- you know, he's looking at running for president in 2016. he's made that clear. he's putting together an operation. i think this sends a message to republicans that he's just not ready for primetime. you pointed out that agency moment, but he called social security a ponzi scheme.

you know, there are a number of other moments on the campaign trail where he put his foot in his mouth. and he has a good profile if you're a republican, but i just don't think -- and i think a number of republicans probably should be very worried about this guy's prospects in 2016. can he just, you know, make it through a primary? can he make it through a debate? he's not demonstrated that. he hasn't demonstrated he's learned from 2012. i just think he's -- i just think he's not ready for primetime. >> doug, what do you make of these schweitzer comments and eric cantor sets off his gaydar thing? i think he's been flirting with the 2016 campaign. is he going to be able to sell this? >> well, now i think it's i'm a jackass. you just -- what he said was

ridiculous. and it was moronic. the thing about someone like chris christie is people like the fact they shoot off the hip, that they're -- you know, you're never sure what you're going to get from them. that's also sometimes comes back to bite you. that happened here. look, being the governor of montana, the spotlight is not nearly the same as running for the democratic nomination. i think, you know, he's starting to feel that. >> doug, good first outing here at "the cycle." thank you so much for your insights. >> great job, doug! all right. up next, a big weekend for team usa in rio. we've got your world cup weekend preview, and the upsets have already started. [ male announcer ] this is kevin. to prove to you that aleve is the better choice for him, he's agreed to give it up. that's today? [ male announcer ] we'll be with him all day as he goes back to taking tylenol. i was okay, but after lunch my knee started to hurt again.

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summer is already here. it arrives tomorrow morning. temperatures already in the 90s from dallas to atlanta. 102 in phoenix. beautiful weather here in the northeast. we're watching for the potential of severe thunderstorm activity this afternoon in the ohio valley, keeping a close eye on this line of showers and thunderstorms. the severe potential is there. not widespread, and we're not expecting any major tornado outbreaks today, but still keeping a close eye on that. tomorrow summer begins in the morning around 6:51. and it will live up to that hype in the northeast. temperatures near 80 degrees. a beach day from new york city to boston. couple of showers possible off to the south, though. d.c., a little rainy there. 87 degrees in denver. 108 in phoenix. and a beautiful day to start summer in the southwest. also, the northwest is looking good. sunday's forecast more of the same. beautiful weather from new york city to boston. start making those barbecue plans or anything outside. unfortunately, though, the showers and storms return to the central plains. kansas city, chicago, and minneapolis could all see storms with temperatures in the 80s.

still sizzling in phoenix. 108 for sunday with sunshine. now, speaking of sunday, that's the next u.s. game for the world cup. the forecast there for the u.s. taking on portugal in brazil is steamy and sultry with rain. temperatures between 85 and 90 degrees. that's in one of the hottest parts of brazil for that game. that's coming up on sunday. so we'll all be watching as they sweat it out. over to you. >> thanks for that. and if you love football, you should come over here and join us. we're about to talk about some football. because every four years, america gets a particular fever called world cup fever. and i've got it. and i hope you do too. we have a great tournament going on right now in rio. we have beautiful goals, all the headers that are just -- and great play from guys like neymar and messi and suarez. upsets like today. tiny costa rica beating mighty italy. what a game. and there's a brazil team doing great, living up to it the hype. i'm not, of course, on that team. get that off the screen. that is not me.

and an american team that still has a chance, a slight chance, a sliver, slight, teeny, weeny, baby chance. >> we can dream. >> we have nooick heil from "outside" magazine. cover story all about the underdogs. team america had a great day one. of course, we beat ghana, but then we lost josi altidore, very important. clint dempsey broke his nose, making it hard to breathe. on sunday, we play portugal, who has cristiano renaldo, who's one of the world's greatest players. just ask him, he'll tell you. i'm sorry, nick, but i do not believe we will win. >> you know, this is going to be the game of their lives. this is the number three ranked team in the world with the number one player in the world. but i'm very bullish on the u.s. team this year. i thought they turned out a great performance against ghana. these guys are warriors.

they're on the ascendancy. portugal is on their back feet. they're going to be angry, but they're vulnerable. >> rafi actually did decide to join us at the table because he is a football madman. so get involved. >> you negotiatiknow, i'm brazilian-american, so i'd be in trouble if i weren't into soccer, or football. nick, what do you think the u.s. interest is in the world cup? how do you rank it compared to previous world cups? are we really feeling it this year? >> oh, yeah. it's an all-time high. i think the love affair with the u.s. men's national team started in 2010. they had a heroic and heartbreaking performance. i think a lot of people got hooked on the games. they saw how dramatic it could be and saw how tough and competitive the u.s. was on the world stage. since then, the u.s. audience only continued to grow. there's more access to games. there's more matches on television. there's more people connecting through the internet and social media. we have the best team we've ever fielded. we've already seen what they can

do. i also think it's a little fashable to be a soccer fan right now. all of these things are converging and really creating some soccer fever. you couple that with the kind of tournament we've got under way, and, you know, i think a lot of people are as excited as me. and i've been a soccer fan for a very long time. >> oh, yeah, nick. couldn't agree with you more. literally talking about soccer on media is like drinking pbr in terms of being hip. people love it. one thing americans love, though -- >> hey, i've been following the sport for a long time. i want to speak out on the exception here. >> luke is jumping on the bandwagon. >> one thing americans love, though, is offense. my adopted team of colombia has had an amazing offensive surge the last few games. got to give them credit. >> who are you? >> however, i want to ask you this. it's not just a crazy theory we're seeing more offense. it's actually scientifically true. there's been more offense this world cup than we've seen in

years. where is that coming from, and does it show any signs of stopping? because i love it. >> i mean, how exciting is this? there's a few things going on, i think. tactics are changing a little bit. you're not quite seeing as much of the sort of ticky tock style that defines a team like spain, the passing around the midfield that americans love to grouse about. there's a lot more explosive attacking style of soccer now. and you're seeing players who are -- you know, their raw athleticism and power is just extraordinary coupled with incredible technical proficiency. the goals this tournament have been as spectacular as anything we've seen on the world stage. van persie's header against spain. tim cahill's finisher. just incredible stuff. i think the sea has risen and all levels have come up along with it. >> yeah, well, nick, bottom line

for us here. if you had to pick one team, who do you think is going to win it all? >> i think the smart money is still on brazil. i love germany. they're looking unbeatable right now. the netherlands, you know, they were the runner-up in 2010. they're looking tough. you still got, i think, the dark horses right now are argentina and maybe chile. they're looking great. you know, let's not rule out concacaf. you get to the knockout stage, and who knows. i'm saying usa in the semifinals. >> whoa. >> i like it. >> nick, talk to us about the reffing this tournament. and all the flopping. >> sure, sure. yeah, well, you know, statistically there have been a number of penalties called, much more than what we saw in 2010. you know, there's some pressure on the referees. it's not like the refs are prescheduled for all of the tournament games. i think there's a feeling among

them that they're more willing to call -- they'd rather call one than miss one, even though calling it can be a real game changer. you know, i don't know that it's been atrocious. it's still kind of early in the tournament. i definitely think we've seen some missed calls. we've seen some bad calls that shouldn't have been made. so i think we need to wait and see how it shakes out. >> nick, i love you, but putting the americans in the semifinals, that's a yellow card. rafi, i love you too, but you got a red card just because i got one. so you're out of here. up next -- but thanks, both of you. up next, the man behind the special magazine issue on 2016 that got montana's former governor in trouble. that's not all. richard just joins us in a moment.

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former montana governor brian schweitze made "national journal magazine" and our politics block earlier for a

rare feat. uniting republicans and democrats, albeit in disgust for comparing diane feinstein to a prostitute and saying eric cantor sets off his gaydar, which he said in fairness is only 60% to 70% accurate. he's fancied himself as a 2016 presidential candidate. but these comments didn't help his cause. joining us now is richard just, editor for "national journal" magazine. this week, today look at the entire 2016 potential field. in other words, will we see another bush or clinton in the white house? or will someone come out of the left or right field to win it all? richard, welcome. >> thanks for having me. >> so we have jeb bush and hillary clinton running. and i see baggage operating differently for these two. hillary obviously has a lot of trouble with republicans, but she's had a lot of success consolidating the democratic vote. latest polls have her at 66%. whereas jeb bush faces trouble from both the right and the left because of his connection to his brother. how do you see legacies playing out in this campaign?

>> obviously at some level, dynasties strike a voter as un-american. they don't love the idea of one family, whether it's the bushes on the right or the clintons on the left, having so much political power. i do think there are some hidden advantages to dynasties that voters aren't always quick to appreciate. one of the things we get into in our piece about hillary is a fascinating statistic to me that i didn't know before i edited the piece. in 1993 when bill clinton came into the white house, not a single one of his domestic policy staffers he brought with him had ever been in the white house before. so with dynasties, you get a little more experience. obviously they would not be in that situation. they would be bringing with them not just their own personal experience in politics but they'd be bringing with them very experienced people as well. so maybe there are sometimes advantages to dynasties. i think, though, a lot of voters have an instinctive gut-level reaction against them. >> there's a fascinating article in here called "a unified theory of hillary" that looks at some sort of personal antidotes.

he argues she's very driven, very focused, and if anything would derail her, it would be that she has trouble sort of moving from a predetermined plan. are there any presidents that you can think of in the past who share those similar traits, and how did peter get to those conclusions about hillary? >> yeah, well, so there's a few presidents. i think lbj is an obvious one. this was a guy who was very savvy, very politically shrewd, brought a vast amount of experience to the presidency. that paid off for him in good ways, obviously. another counterintuitive example is george w. bush. bush was someone who was very good at kind of putting his head down, very disciplined, very good at kind of executing a well-defined plan. he wasn't as good as pivoting, at changing course, at raelzing things weren't going well and moving to a new strategy. peter's basic thesis about hillary drawing on both personal stuff from her past as well as political stuff from her past is that hillary kind of shares that basic duality. she's very good at putting her head down.

she's good at executing a well-defined plan. she's not great at realizing things are going wrong. the two circumstances that he draws on, the two big circumstances he draws on to make that case are the 1993 and '94 health care debacle where hillary realized too late that politically the plan she was trying to sell was not working, even though there were folks in the white house advising the clintons to setting for a much more moderate version of the plan. she wanted to push for the maximum thing and couldn't adjust halfway through in the way she probably should have. the other example, which is organize bli even more compelling, is during the run-up to the 2008 election which she just fundamentally didn't realize how much the center of the democratic party had shifted to the left and continued to spout hawkish rhetoric about iraq and iran long past the point where that just really wasn't acceptable anymore to the democratic base. >> yeah, she shouldn't have that problem this time around, richard, because they do not have that type of polarizing issue within the democratic

side, even though she has a challenge. i wanted to say congratulations on the reissue. i love the magazine. i read it weekly. it's the best thing in d.c. if you want to be up to speed and think about an issue. one guy that you guys have paid a lot of particular attention to over the course of the last year is rand paul. i personally believe that the fight for the 2016 gop nomination is really a fight for the future of the republican party and will probably define the republican party for the next five to ten years at least. rand paul from your readings, which your reporters have done, how much do you think he'll be a voice in 2016, and how much will he guide the party? >> there's no question that he speaks to a really important segment of the grassroots of the party, the tea party wing, folks who are going to come out and vote and who are going to exercise an important voice during the primaries. the way we chose to get at rand paul, and this issue was to look at his relationship with a man named nate morris, who has emerged as one of his key advisers. many are holdovers from his father's world. they were advisers to his dad

during his presidential runs. they're very committed libertarians. nate morris is someone different. he's someone who comes from the gop establishment. he's someone who is not a holdover from ron paul's world. but he's someone who i think shows that rand paul, even as he hangs on to that grassroots base, is really trying to reach out and make links to the establishment that would help him to sell his candidacy. >> richard, thanks so much. >> thank you for having me. up next, it's been a rough week for america's auto industry. but straight ahead, a story that remind us just how important detroit has been for this country. more "cycle" still ahead.

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for only 50 delicious calories. tease day, the headlines out of detroit are usually bad news for america's auto industry. general motors could face another big fine for their latest vehicle recall. gm recalled over 3 million chevy impa las this week for the same faulty ignition switch and wednesday we told you about ceo mary barra's grilling on capitol hill. but there was a long period of time, interestingly enough, when our auto industry was a source of pride and strength. during world war ii as nazi germany marched through europe, america and the world turned to detroit to save it. in a new book called "the arsenal of democracy" recalls how detroit's auto industry and ford motor company transformed into the largest military making enterprise in history, arming the allies with bombers and tanks to help liberate the

world. here with us, the author of this book, a.j. bain. thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate it. >> absolute pleasure to be here. >> i was a history major, so i sort of studied this back when i was in college. and i'm always nostalgic for it, even though i wasn't there, because of this sort of coming together for a common purpose that not only soldiers did and the country did but businesses did back then as well. so you're going to give us a little break down of the history throughout the show. first question off to you, do you ever think we could see this type of effort again by american businesses coming together for a national unity effort? >> you know, i get asked this question in every interview i do. i always answer it the same way. absolutely not. let me answer that question this way. >> it's sad. >> here's a quote by fdr that i keep with me pretty much all the time. it never leaves my pocket. every single man, woman, and child is a partner and the most tremendous undertaking of our american history. i can't imagine that happening today.

>> i love people who are nostalgic for times they didn't live in. that's always awesome. >> that's kind of luke's thing. >> it's part of being an american, toure. >> part of what you write about is how fdr needed to make planes, needed to make arms for the army. they didn't have the resources as a federal government, so they called on ford and the auto i have -- industry to get involved and do that, even though a lot of the top executives were anti-war, anti-new deal, anti-fdr. how did that work? how did that happen? >> well, it was extremely complicated, and you're right on all those points. to me, the greatest genius of fdr in terms of the war effort was that he saw what was going to happen long before everybody else. and the great industrialists at the time didn't necessarily like him. he was able to convince these people how that was all going to work. but of course, as we know now, many years later, he was able to convince these people and detroit played the starring role. at the time, general motors, we think of what they're going through today.

gm was actually the number one military contractor in the nation at the time. >> wow. >> ford was number three. but in a gallup poll during the war, america really believed henry ford was the hero in detr >> that's amazing. >> how did they actually do it? how did they transform their production line to make war machinery? >> very complicated. as writers, we love narrative. okay, so what happens in this book and the story of the war effort base he cically on the h front. fdr came up with this idea. we take our government and free enterprise and join it into this thing we call the arsenal of democrat tri. of course, everything went wrong. everything went wrong. in 1942 it was a disaster. we didn't have copper or have aluminum or rubber or gasoline. people could not drink beer and you couldn't get a steak. people were eating muskrat meat because everything was going towards the war effort. what you see through the book, everything going through wrong

and wrong until 1943 when things started to go right. >> then you also describe the u.s. invading europe in 1944 and we're discovering germans also have american-made vehicles. and there was an investigation into this. what happened with that? >> this was an incredibly complex situation to talk about. let me see if i can get it into a concise bit. you have to imagine that germany in the early years of hitler had a thriving economy in part of because he empowered the automobile industry in germany. a lot of big american companies are investing a lot of money in germany at the time and making a lot of profits. nobody knew who hitler was and -- >> it was just business. >> right. and so basically they were not allowed to bring any profits out of the country. when things started to get dark, executives here in america had very complicated decisions to make. in terms of treasury

investigation very quickly, in 1943 henry morgan thal was really a watch dog and making sure there were no war profiteers, the ford family was allowed to communicate with executives in nazi occupied territory and those documents exist and they are incredible. i could read through them and of course the treasury investigation in 1943, there were no charge but the fact it happened was amazing. >> watchdogs against war profiteers, now called an economic benefit. wonderful book. nearly 25 years later, resolution for central park five. if i can impart one lesson to a

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last night news leaked that the city of new york has reached a settlement with the men of the central park five. they will get over $40 million for wrongful convictions in this city. in 1990 they were convicted of rape and attempted murder but those convictions were vacanted in 2002 and now the four who spent seven years in juvenile prisons will split 28 million while corey wise will get $12.25 million. marking a new chapter in one of new york's most controversial and long-running dramas. in chapter one they were seen as wild animals preying on new york's upstanding citizens convicted in the media before the trial even began. >> some of these alleged perpetrator we have to say

alleged because that's the requirement, when those grandmothers say but he's a good boy. he never did anything. don't you believe it. >> years later it grew clearer that perhaps a crime had been committed against them. but in the second chapter when police and prosecutorial misconduct was shown and assumptions made in chapter one with up-ended they were freed but after years shackled to horrible reputations they were broken financially and spiritually. >> i lost a lot. >> i lost my youth. lost seven years of my life. >> just because they said, okay we're vacating the convictions, that that vacated the whole prison term. that whole prison term happened. it was a reality. we really went through that. >> they were trapped in a lawsuit against the city, one that would last almost a deck atd which forced them to relive the nightmare over and over.

corey told me i want to be free. it was reignited after ken burns and his daughter made a moving documentary where the media helped synced them in the beginning would help save them. it became part of the mayoral campaign and de blasio promised to order a settlement if he became mayor. they will probably be paid later this year bringing us to chapter three where they are rescued from the hell that their convictions plunged them into and get a new chance at life. money can't repair the damage but will help them rebuild. one of them told me they've been fighting so long they are still in fight mode. the city is offering money but no apology and many on the other side remain indignant. linda said this earlier today. >> i think that these men were participants in the attack on the jogger as charged. >> even though the city is now

made a $40 million settlement with them. >> yes, sir. >> the police and prosecutors either rushed to judgment or fell victim to group think and rund the lives of five men and families and now after 25 years, there was guilt, $40 million worth. we can never forget about patricia mealy, the jogger who was raped. she has moved on but her life was forever changed. we can begin to move on from this now that the city hads finally done right by the central park five. that does it for "the cycle." "now" with alex wagner starts right now. how many more criminal schemes can plague one party before 2016? it is friday, june 20th and this is "now" live in washington. >> potential 2016 shake-up. >> the criminal investigation involving -- >> wisconsin governor scott

walker. >> could impact a potential run for president. >> prosecutors allege that walker was at the center of a criminal scheme. >> in other state this might be a smaller deal. in wisconsin it's a big deal. >> we understand the sewer that is money in politics. >> an e-mail walker allegedly sent to karl rove. >> you already have one potential 2016 candidate for the republican party under a cloud of investigation. >> are they trying to do to you what they did to chris christie. >> there's no doubt -- he has not shown a great ability to handle national xrut sunscrutin >> does scott walker have a lot to worry about? >> this isn't a document released kaudsed problems for walker. >> some of the left spin this. >> it's not over adds long as it's there. it's a potential headache for sc