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mitted through dual-smelling stacks all the way out to the ones you love. rachel will be back monday and you can catch me, crystal, abby and toure on "the cycle," 3:00 p.m. weekdays. "weekends with alex witt" starts now. the first day of summer, 2014, we're giving you a live picture of miami skyline there. just nine minutes away, we slipped into the new season. good morning, everyone. welcome to "weekends with alex witt." it is june 20th. in just a few minutes, we'll have a look at the weekend forecast for you. but first, a new and alarming video from that terror group, isis. you'll see how they might be trying to recruit people in hometowns across the u.s. could it work? at least one prominent republican is defending president obama's handling of the iraq situation and blaming some follow gopers for the whole mess. >> you have such certainty. how do you know that the information he revealed did not
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cost american lives. how do you know that? >> what american lives? >> it is just past one years since the dramatic edward snowden leaks, but one of the biggest questions remains unanswered and sparking fresh debate. and a new report on the star of the movie, "jaws: the great white." good morning, everyone. we have dramatic and new developments in iraq for you today. first up, the terrorist group trying to overthrow the iraqi government has released a chilling new propaganda video. isis released this video on friday, featuring three english-speaking jihadists. now, it's not clear where that video was recorded, but the fighters makes a reference to a term used to describe syria and portions of neighboring countries. meantime, president obama is talking to msnbc about the crisis in iraq, in a new interview with "morning joe's" mika bre shinski.
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and john kerry is expected to head to the region, he's expected to visit the middle east and europe. kristen welg is at the white house. >> we're learning he will visit iraq at some point, and i anticipate he will carry a message with him, that we have heard from this white house this week, namely that it is up to the iraqis, ultimately, to bring the situation there under control. senior administration officials expressing frustration with prime minister nuri al maliki. they're saying this violence, this destabilization we're seeing, he bears some responsibility for that, for failing to create an inclusive government. we're also learning more about those special forces that are headed into iraq, to help assess the situation there. we're learning that the first round will be a few dozen special forces, and they'll have a few key goals. first, they're going to assess the security situation, assess the strength of isis.
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they're going to set up two joint operation centers. one is going to be located in baghdad. the other will be located in northern iraq, near kirkuk. and then other special forces will actually embed with the iraqi military. they will offer strategic advice. as you mentioned, mika brzezinski sat down with president obama on friday and here's a little bit of what he had to say to her. take a listen. >> some of the forces that have always, possibly, pulled iraq apart are stronger now. those forces that could keep the country united are weaker. it is ultimately going to be up to the iraqi leadership to try to pull the politics of the country back together again. >> reporter: and alex, i spent some time at the pentagon this week. officials there saying that the u.s. is pursuing a written agreement that would provide those special forces with
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immunity from prosecution in iraq. you'll remember that that was a big sticking point back in 2011, when president obama was trying to determine what, if any, troop levels there would be in iraq. iraq would not grant u.s. forces with immunity. and that is why the obama administration decided to pull out all of the troops, back in 2011. so that is a key point. the pentagon says they don't have it in writing yet, but they are pursuing it. alex? >> i can imagine. kristen welker, thanks very much for that update. let's get a bit more on that new propaganda video, showing the english-speaking jihadists and what it means for our safety here. let's bring in retired army colonel, jack jacobs, and washington editor of large, steve clemens. colonel jacobs, i'll begin with you, sir. this video appears to be a carefully crafted message, aimed at showing the group's outreach and their popularity. i'm sure you're concerned about
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it. what most concerns you? >> the fact that isis is smart enough to recognize that radical movements attract young people. and the way to attract young people today is to get on to social media. they seem to be very adept at doing that. and recruitment both inside and outside iraq is the goal here. and they're doing a very good job of it, as we can see on the videota video. that's going to increase as their hold solidifies inside iraq, but they're also recruiting outside iraq, and that's very, very dangerous. >> steve, releasing this video in english, does this point to a sophisticated media strategy? i mean, basically, it guarantees were play in the west. look, we're talking about it. >> well, i think that what is happening, what's been happening for a long time, my former colleague at the new america foundation, peter bergen, has written a lot about this. is that the enemy within, or those people who are easily seduced into action, who exist in english-speaking countries, like the united kingdom, like
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the united states, that there is a chance of increasingly identifying and finding and seducing people inside our countries who have some sort of interests in the goals of isis, or at least the notion of a much more islamist, purist state, and a that they can try to incite action, both incite these countries, or encourage people to come over. but i think the big danger down the road is what happens in the united states when we begin to see people inside our country take terrorist actions inside, because they're inspired by that video? that's very worrisome. >> yeah, absolutely. colonel, i point to this video, it preaches specifically also to foreign fighters. there is a new fighter by a private consulting company which estimates there are about 12,000 foreign fighters in syria. some 3,000 of them are from western european countries, but citing the fbi, the group also says as many as 70 americans travel to syria to take up arms and fight. so assuming they have western
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passports, would it be easier for these individuals to return to the u.s. or go elsewhere and commit a terrorist act, traveling on that u.s. passport? >> well, in short, yes. we're a very large country with porous border and if you have a passport, you can come and go as you please and do whatever you want once you get in here. so we've got a problem with our borders and we've got a problem with people who are jihadists and who have american passports. but the problem is bigger for european countries. they have no borders, whatsoever. and they have a huge immigrant population from the middle east. and more significantly, they are not -- as they are in the united states, they are not integrated into the political and social and economic world, as immigrants are in this country. and they're shunned and they don't have the access that they do in this country. that makes it very much more dangerous in european countries than it does in the united states. still, we have to be vigilant here as well. >> yeah, so, steve, talk about these 70 alleged americans that
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have been able to take up arms in syria. traveling to places like syria, does this set off alarm bells? does it automatically put some individuals on any sort of a watch list? i mean, are there criteria that gets compiled and you say, got to keep an eye. >> absolutely. you know, we're having a big debate on what the nsa has been doing domestically in tracking some meshamericans, but there ao restrictions on what the nsa and others are doing in tracking the behavior, the calls, the trips, the financial transactions of those people who move into areas of concern abroad. and so we have a level of capacity to track people today abroad and what their behavior is that we've never had before. so absolutely, and i think jack's absolutely right, not only is europe quite porous, but europe doesn't have the kind of centralized capacity in the same way the united states does, to important people who begin to exhibit behaviors that should concern us. so while we shouldn't be come place sent and say that that's
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foolproof, nonetheless, our capacity in the united states is very impressive. >> with this conversation about what's happening unfolding there in iraq, we've been talking about it for a while now. what is it that we don't already know? what are the questions that you still have? first to you, colonel jack, then to you, steve. >> i'm actually less concerned about the things that we don't know. where is isis, what are they plans welcome can we find an assembly area so we can target them. i'm less concerned about that than what we do know. and what we do know the the government in baghdad is corrupt and ineffective and nothing is going to get any better unless and until that changes. so what we do know is actually scarier than what we don't know. >> steve? >> well, i would say that we've made this is an isis story, but there are at least two or three other leading sunni groups that have joined isis in this move. so we've been telling an incomplete story about the sort of new sunni awakening inside iraq. and the story of maliki's
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incompetence and ever since he ran out on his vice president, literally the weak after u.s. forces left, there's been an imbalance in iraq that's been there for a long time. and to some degree, this is a stock market response to his failure. and it's not dwibl that throwing troops or drones is going to solve that equation. >> steve clements and jack jacobs, thanks for your insights. in the news now, officials say more than 80 employees at the center for disease control may have been exposed to anthrax after they admit what was a breakdown in safety property call. an investigation is underway. they could expect the number of affected individuals to grow. to the border now, where president obama has announced a new set of policies expected to stem the flow of unauthorized immigrants making their way from texas into mexico. the steps include adding more immigration judges to progress backlogged asylum claims and now
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detention centers for families awaiting hearings. the administration also announced they would allocate aid to improve security in those countries. and it's official, summer has finally arrived, as of about 20 minutes or so ago. this longest day of the year will provide over 15 hours of daylight. grab your shades and get out and enjoy the sunshine. so now to the weather. lower than average temperatures expected in the northeast this weekend, while we'll see more storms threatening the midwest. meteorologist dylan dreyer is here with the forecast. good morning, dylan. >> good morning, alex. it certainly is going to feel like summer for this first official day of summer. we've got scattered showers and storms with the heat mixed in. we are going to start off the day with some showers, but we should see some improvements. but still the threat of some isolated stronger storms this afternoon. the area of major concern, though, this morning swb across southeastern nebraska into northeastern kansas. and also into northwestern parts of missouri. we did have some severe
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thunderstorm warnings in effect earlier this morning. now it's just some run of the mil thunderstorms. but as we get into the afternoon, we'll see more storms redevelop. this area in yellow from the dakotas into iowa, even stretching across parts of chicago, that's where we could see our strongest storms today. mostly for some large hail, damaging wind gusts, any tornadoes would be isolated. and also down across north and south carolina, we could see stronger storms develop this afternoon. temperatures this morning are nice and comfortable in the northeast, almost chilly in boston at 58 degrees. but it's already in the upper 70s this morning across the southeast, and look at how hot it's going to get. 93 in dallas, 92 in atlanta, but only 75 in boston and nice and comfortable at 82 degrees in chicago. we are going to see those scattered showers and storms through the middle of the country and down across the southeast. some early clouds in washington, d.c., but by tomorrow, that's when the weather really improves. 81 in d.c., 90 in kansas city, and we should be up around 108 in phoenix for your sunday. alex? >> dylan, thanks. so it's the summer solstice,
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released this new propaganda video in english. and ayman mohyeldin is in iraq for us. what have you learned about this new isis video? >> reporter: good morning, alex. well, you know, the video was made in english, it's a well, slick produced video, it's certainly trying to appeal to the global community, if you will, to come and join the fight here in iraq. the way they are portraying this fight is consistent with their message. this is a jihad and this is the opportunity for jihadists around the world, if you will, to come join the fight. and without a doubt, this is the aim of the video, in addition to all of the communication that i have been putting out, regarding some of the fighting that has been taking place here. a global call to join the fight in iraq, made by english-speaking isis fighters, many european passports. it's part of a propaganda video as the group makes its steady and deadly push on to baghdad.
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iraq's military is also getting fresh recruits. thousands of shia men answering their cleric's call to join the fight. and the army is also getting some outside help in the form of american soldiers. 300 american special forces are being deployed to work with iraq's army. they will set up an operation center, share intelligence, advise iraqi brigades, and could possibly call in air strikes. all to help to give the iraqi military the upper hand after it lost large parts to american fighters. but defeating isis might not be enough. grows are calling on an embattled prime minister nuri al maliki to resign, even from the country's top shiite cleric and iraqi's top kurds. if you had a chance to speak to prime minister maliki, what would you tell him today? >> it will not be solved through military operation. the only solution is a political solution. >> reporter: isis' takeover of iraqi cities has created a
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ripple effect of fear across the country. lines at gas stations are several hours long, and hundreds of thousands of refugees remain away from their homes, too afraid to return, during a fight which now only looks to be intensifying. -- critical of the u.s.' decision. in fact, kurdish officials i've been speaking to have told me that they over the course of last six months have been kiln warning the united states and regional allies about isis' plans to not only overtake mosul, but to try to attack baghdad as well. they say the americans have been listening, but have not been doing anything beyond that. alex? >> okay. nbc's ayman mohyeldin, thank you very much. minnesota is dealing with massive flooding and mud slides this first weekend of summer. the state's weather problems are not over yet. severe storms are expected there. nbc's anne thompson is joining me from minneapolis, with more on this. wet and wild there, apparently,
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good morning. >> good morning, alex. they're getting a break today, because the forecast is 87 degrees and sunny for minneapolis today. and boy, do they need it. because over my shoulder, you can see just what the drenching rains have done to this section of the bluff along the mississippi river. that bluff came tumbling down on thursday night after 6 inches of rain fell within 8 hours and just soaked that bluff, sending the mud down on to a road that is very popular with bikers and joggers. but believe it or not, no one was hurt in that mud slide. now on that road stands 6 to 8 feet of dprebris. you can see some heavy equipment in there. they're trying to figure out how to shore up the bluff and repair that gaping hole. on top of that bluff stand two buildings that belong to the university of minnesota medical center. both of those buildings have been inspected. they are said to be structurally sound. and i can tell you that neither one involves patient care.
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alex? >> anne, with regard to the rising river, it has not peaked yet, that's one of the big concerns? >> reporter: no, in fact, it's a concern throughout the state. because it has been an unbelievably rainy june here. in fact, the state of minnesota stands within an inch of its all-time record for rainfall in the month of june. so many of the rivers here in the state are swollen. and they have yet to crest. so in different parts of the state, there are sandbagging operations going on, in order to protect them from those cresting rivers. and that's expected to happen in the next several days. >> you know, you think about sandbagging. if you're looking at what i read, at some point, it might be another 7 feet before the mississippi will completely rise, i mean, to its peak level. sandbagging, is that going to do it? >> reporter: well, i have not heard that. the concern that i have heard
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involves other rivers here in minnesota. i mean, they seem -- you know, when you fly -- when i flew in yesterday, what was really extraordinary to see from the air was how much the water has spread in like athletic fields and parks in particular, anything that's low, and that's near a lake. as you know, minnesota is called the land of 10,000 lakes. and a lot of those with all the rain that has fallen, have come up over their banks. so they are dealing with a difficult problem here, a problem that has been so extensive that nearly half of the counties here in the state of minnesota have been declared to be in a state of emergency we minnesota's governor, alex. >> wow. anne thompson, thank you so much, from minneapolis. the fda is moving to ban one word on food labels. i will tell you what that is and why. but first, beware, you beach bums. a new report finds that great white sharks a making a comeback in ocean waters off the eastern u.s. and canadian coasts. the shark population has been in decline in the region for decades, but scientists
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which can lead to a wallet shutdown. it's enough to make summer feel more expensive, but kids say, can we go to the theme park? you say no. you go to the outlets and you would you have one less bag. and this was unexpected and really could have a trickle-down effect on both consumer sentiment and spending. >> i think you're right. what about this natural curiosity? what does this have to do with food labeling? >> well, consumer reports, when you thought magazines weren't relative anymore, they have come back with a petition to say, hey, the use of the word natural. turns out 60% of consumers look for it, they think it's a good thing, but more than 80% don't realize, it doesn't mean anything at all. there's an assumption that the meat, you know, those animals saw the light of day, there were no pesticides, there are no artificial ingredients and it's just not the case. on the flip side, the use of the word "organic," far more regulated. that threshold is a lot higher. watch for labeling to change. >> what about maximum minimum. what's that about? >> you know the obama
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administration has been going for $10.10, minimum wage, and states are taking that into their own hands. most notably this week, massachusetts. on a graduated basis, they now become the state with the highest minimum wage. they're going from $8 now and you see it graduate up to $11 in 2017. if you play that out, here's why it's significant, that's $3 an hour differential, $24 a day, so it is quite significant. >> i'm sure folks in massachusetts are appreciating that. >> thanks. there is an unexpected surge related to the u.s. and world cup soccer. the answer ahead on that. but first, now this news. new york city reached a landmark settlement in the case of the central park five this week. here's more on what the deal means.
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go to legalzoom.com today and make your business dream a reality. at legalzoom.com we put the law on your side. welcome back to "weekends with alex witt." today in iraq, a massive show of force. showing off a truck-mounted rockets and fighters that seemed to number in the thousands. secretary of state john kerry will fly to the middle east to try to work with the u.s.' regional partners on a more inclusive government in iraq. joining me now, democratic congressman from california, john garamendi, member of the armed services committee. welcome back to the broadcast. good to see you. >> good to see you, alex. >> well, congressman, a "new york times" reporter at the parade noted that these militias were holding together the flags of isis, the u.s., and israel, and burning them. these are effectively our new partners. can the 300 troops on their way to iraq really work with them?
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>> it's going to be difficult, always has been difficult. iraq has been a dangerous and difficult place for years. we certainly learned that during the 2000 invasion of iraq and the civil war that followed. we've got a very tough, very complex situation there, and we must be extraordinarily careful before we reenter and before we get further engaged than we already are. >> my colleague, mika brzezin i brzezinski, sat down with president obama yesterday to discuss all of this. let's take a listen to part of that. >> some of the forces that have always possibly pulled iraq apart are stronger now. those forces that could keep the country united are weaker. it is ultimately going to be up to the iraqi leadership to try to pull the politics of the country back together again. >> so, let's be honest here, because these sides have not wanted to work together since the shiite sunni split about 1,400 years ago. and dictators of the last half
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century are only made it worse. so short of regime change, what can be done? >> i think what can be done is what the president has instructed mr. kerry to do, and that is, we've got to pull together a coalition of the neighborhood, including the europeans, and frankly, russia and china have a stake in this. the more radical that area becomes, the more dangerous it is to all of us. so we really need to look towards the diplomatic solution, pulling together many of the elements that have, in fact, been part of the fuel to all of this fire that's going on in that area. and we also need to be extraordinarily careful, where are the good guys here? in one way or another, most of these folks at one time or another have been opposed to the united states. so we've got to be very careful. the resolution that is now in the senate, which reasserts the war powers act, holds the president responsible to coming back to congress, within 90
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days, if he intends to continue military or any military action, in iraq. and that requires us, the 535 of us that represent the american people, to have a voice and for the president to clearly state to us and the american people, what we're getting into. >> i'm sure you've seen, sir, this new isis recruitment video that has emerged and has the english speak fighters from the australia and uk and urging others to join them. how do you prevent more americans from joining them, and how do you stop them from launching a terror attack here on the homeland? >> well, that's what this is all about. this is a very, very complex situation. we've seen this before. we've certainly seen it in yemen, with an american. that became a leader in the al qaeda movement. we will undoubtedly see some of that. we know that many europeans and now some australians and americans are joining us. this is not a new thing. but what we have to be very, very much aware of is that any action that the united states
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takes, could very seriously inflame the middle east. so caution is necessary here. we must be very, very much aware of what the unintended consequences of any action might be and drone strike and other kinds of military action fall into that category of unintended consequences that could make the situation much worse. >> sir, i actually asked this question of an earlier guest. on a practical level, if you have westerners, american, uk, aussies, that are over there fighting, they are traveling, presumably, on passports from their native country. which makes them a little bit easier to get around, wouldn't you be concerned about that and their ability to bring back terror to their specific homelands, traveling on those passports? >> no doubt about it. that's why our intelligence and surveillance and, indeed, our reconnaissance, has to be very, very robust. and this is certainly something that the president and the administration is now doing, and that is taking very careful attention to what is going on,
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who's going where, americans or others, entering into that area. again, this is not new. this has been going on for several years, actually more than a decade now, of people outside of those countries, that is citizens that are not of those countries, joining into the fight. and it's one of the things that makes this extremely dangerous. not just for us. this is extremely dangerous situation for russia and china, who do have, in their territories, people who share much of the same religious fervor that has erupted over the last two decades in the middle east. and so we must take care, we must watch, we must be very, very cognizant of what's happening, particularly in the case of the united states. americans, with american passports, that are joining into one or another of these sects that are operating in the entire region. >> democratic congressman from california, john garamendi, thanks for your time. nice to see you. >> thank you. >> let me bring in now
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washington bureau chief for "the chicago sun-times," lynn sweet, and congressional reporter for "the washington post", ed o'keefe. worst-case scenarios, lynn, what do you think the white house is worried about with respect to iraq? >> oh, they're worried about the most important thing would be if any of the special operation forces do go in, if god for bid anything happens to anyone, if there's any casualties, that would be at the top of the list. that's the substance, not the political. on the political end, it's keeping the democratic lawmakers, keeping, you know, within their own family a consensus that what the white house is doing is the right course to be taken. >> in other words, there's a lot to worry about right now. ed, this week, some of the architects of the iraq war, from the george w. bush administration have reemerged. senator rand paul will be on tomorrow's "meet the press" and here's what he's saying. >> what's going on now, i don't
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blame on president obama. maybe there is no solution. but i do blame the iraq war on the chaos that is in the middle east. i also blame those who are for the iraq war for emboldening iran. these are the same people now who are petrified of what iran may become. >> ed, are there any other gop types besides the architects from the bush/cheney camp that are still defending the iraq war? >> you didn't play the clip of him basically questioning cheney's ability or sort of reputation or validity in talking about the war, in that he was sort of the guy who put it all together, as senator paul argued, and got us into this mess in the first place. and so i think, you know, yes, you've seen them all reemerge this beak and play "i told you so" or try to put the blame on president obama. but look at polling, talk to many people here in washington, and they say, well, those are the guys that got us into this mess, and that's not necessarily a group of people we should be paying attention to anymore. you talk to democrats. lynn mentioned they're a potential problem for the
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president. you heard congressman garamendi, just now, the president has got to come to us at some point if they want to keep this up. but you talk to democrats, do they regret talking about withdrawing. and they say no. because a lot of this might not have happened if the u.s. hadn't gotten in there in the first place. and you know, it's kind of an amazing argument to make, in hindsight, because back in the day, someone who would have said that would have been totally discounted. and yet, most of america would probably disagree with those guys now. >> it is interesting, right, what hindsight brings you. let's move on to the tense house committee on the irs. we have lawmakers questioning the irs commissioner about why e-mails longing to lois lerner were lost after a computer crash in 2011, destroying the hard drive. here's part of that. >> -- seven years of their personal tax information, in case they're ever audited, and you can't keep six months' worth of employees' e-mails. being forthcoming is saying --
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>> will you let him answer the question? >> i didn't ask him a question! >> yes, you did! >> the gentleman -- the gentleman from wisconsin -- >> i control the time. >> clearly, there were fireworks there. but was there anything new to come out of that hearing? >> not in the sense as iffed y wanted to get the shae-mails, t don't have the e-mails. there's another house committee marrying monday that will be having a hearing on the same topic. house republicans are incredulous the irs can't find these lois lerner e-mails. i understand that. it's a tough patch for the white house and democrats in congress, because t in end, you heard paul ryan. it is something that is hard for the public to believe this one is not a complex issue. so i would say, republicans have decided, do you move on, do you find -- you know, they've been talking about this for a long, long time. and we have elections coming up. do they think this is the best
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way to win? my guess is, they're sticking with this irs probe, because they think it's helpful to them. at a certain point, they have to decide what the truth is. that you cannot get the e-mails -- i think the one thing that's left to discover is whether or not the hard drive itself will be turned over to a congressional committee, so they can do their own forensic examination, and be satisfied. >> another tense exchange last night on "realtime with bill maher." this is about the edward snowden leaks. paul ryko rieckhoff squared off against glen greenwald. >> how did you know that the information he revealed did not cost american lives? how do you know that? >> what american lives, is there a single piece of evidence -- >> looking at the information and making -- >> what edward snowden did is, he didn't release a single document. he came to two of the most
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well-regarded newspapers in the world and he said, i am giving you this material and i want you very carefully to vet it, and only release that which is necessary to inform my fellow citizens about what their government is doing. >> history will be the ultimate decider with the facts, but do we know whether anyone has died because of the snowden leaks? and the if not, has it really hurt national security? >> we don't know and we don't know the full extent to whatever that it might have affected national security. i think if it has in real sensitive ways, perhaps the government doesn't want to say. but what you saw there were two guys who enjoy stirring the pot, stirring it together. i think that's essentially what that was. >> it was, and it was good tv. >> it was. >> thank you very much. as you are always, lynn sweet and ed okeefe, thank you. inside gitmo, you won't believe how the detainees get their news. that's next. that would be my daughter -- hi dad. she's a dietitian. and back when i wasn't eating right, she got me drinking boost. it's got a great taste,
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billion defense spending bill for 2015. it happened friday. the recent prisoner swap of five taliban members for sergeant bowe bergdahl prompted one significant amendment to the bill, though, blocking any guantanamo bay detainee transfers for a year. 149 prisoners remain at gitmo, consider 15 who are considered high-value detainees. and among them, the five 11 9/11 co-conspirators who are on trial. this week they attended a meeting that the fbi tried to spy on their defense team. joining me now, shawna thomas, who just returned from gitmo. good to see you and welcome. let's first talk about these allegations against the fbi. did anything come out of monday's hearing on that? >> the allegations came out in april, when a member of the defense team told the lawyer on the defense team, hey, the fbi approached me. what we learned in the time in between is that the fbi had been
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talking to multiple people on multiple defense teams. but if you are saying, did an actual conclusion come out, no. we have to wait on the judge to make a decision about whether there was a conflict of sbrst, whether the fbi approaching the defense team creates a situation where the -- where ksm and the other alleged 9/11 co-conspirators can't have a fair trial, basically. >> okay. i know you spoke with the public affairs commander there about the reaction to the bergdahl prisoner swap and how everyone found out about it. let's take a listen. >> it's been normal operations, and of course, they did know that something was happening. and they found out about it when everybody else did, when it started broadcasting on msnbc and other stations. so they get to watch tv, so they certainly are upto date on realtime news and information. i found out about this movement when the rest of the world found out about this movement. i was in my office on saturday afternoon, and i saw it on tv.
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going live. so not too many people knew about it. and it's something, of course, that was ksh came down from the highest levels. >> did you get a sense of how they personally feel about it, given that this has been their mission for 12 years now? >> well, it's hard to get to them about how they personally feel, because they're in the military. so what they'll tell you is, the president of the united states wants to close guantanamo bay, they want to do what the president wants to do, but until that is possible, day will do their job, which is keeping these men safe, keeping them protected, and keeping them, you know, enclosed in the prison camp. >> okay. i think one of the more interesting angles is how the detainees get their news. granted, some of them will get to watch cable news and even the commander you spoke with mentioned msnbc. but it's not exactly stars and stripes, the way some other areas, right? >> it depends on which camp you're in.
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camp six the medium level camp. they have multiple satellite tv channels. they may get to see msnbc. but the other camps, what we learned is they mostly get their television news from "russia today." it's an english-speaking from ea russian station. it's considered kind of a propaganda arm of russia. we were shocked to hear this because we heard they had al jazeera in the past. but in the higher value detainee camps, they're only allowed to see channels that can get off the satellite for free and russia today is one of them so it's what they watch. >> can i just ask you interestingly, you don't think about this, but there's a starbucks there? right? which just seems so normal. >> yeah. well, it's a naval base. before the detainee camps were there, it was a naval base. after the detainee camps close, one day possibly, it will still be a navy base. so men are stationed there, women are stationed there, there are schools, there are neighborhoods. i once sang karaoke at one of
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the bars on the base. this is a working navy base with families and friends and also 149 detainees who are in the prison camps. >> okay. thanks for not providing us with the karaoke video, i would have loved to have had that, shawna thomas. the u.s. world cup soccer team prepares to take on the best player in the world without one of its best players. you'll see what the u.s. is up against, next. i spent my entire childhood seeing the world in reverse, and i loved every minute of it. but then you grow up and there's no going back. but it's okay, it's just a new kind of adventure. and really, who wants to look backwards when you can look forward?
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it's about 35 hours away, a game you probably thought you wouldn't care about, but now millions are expected to tune in. the u.s. men's soccer team faces portugal in hopes of reaching the second round of the world cup, and that is no easy feat. joining me now from our washington bureau is brianna scurry, winner of the world cup championship in 1999 and a
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two-time olympic gold medalist. i should just applaud right there. nice to see you, thanks for joining us. >> good morning, thanks for havingy. >> this team usa surprising win against ghana has kept them in the competition. how much pressure are they feeling right now to keep the winning streak going? >> i think our skies have a great attitude. i don't think they're feeling that much pressure at all. i think they're very confident and very certain that they can go in and play against portugal and actually maybe win or at least tie. ronaldo is a fantastic player, but unfortunately for portugal they haven't played that well yet so it will be exciting to see if we can contain him and get the win. >> he's had this nagging knee injury. how concerned are you about his ability to play? obviously we want team usa to play, but for his sake? >> i did see the video with him having ice on his knee for practice. i wouldn't buy too much into that. i think ronaldo will be ready to go. he's going to be desperate to
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lead his team and hopefully get some points, so the usa will have to be tight and very structured defensively and counterattack when they can. >> speaking of that, u.s. forward jozy altidore will miss sunday's game because of his strained hamstring. can the u.s. team pick up his slack? >> i think what the u.s. will do is have clint dempsey be that lone forward and have people hopefully join him in the counterattack when that occurs. jozy is out, as you said. hopefully if the u.s. can get a win tomorrow they can keep jozy out a little longer because they'll already be through for the next group and hopefully back for the quarterfinal. >> can i just ask, why is it that the u.s. doesn't tune into soccer except when it's a huge event like this? we did with women's soccer, that really put it on the map. >> yes. >> but unless it's something like a world cup game, it just doesn't seem to go anywhere. >> soccer in this country is still in its infancy. it's come a long way so far but
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