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right now on "andrea mitchell reports," the rescue mission as sunni militants continue to gain ground. secretary of state john kerry arrives in baghdad today meet with key leaders trying to salvage the stumbling and weak iraqi government. >> none of us should have to be reminded that a threat left unattended far beyond our shores can have grave, tragic consequences. >> we will get the latest from
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andrea mitch whoell who is travg with secretary kerry. >> secretary kerry arrived in baghdad under tight, tight security on a windy day near baghdad, trying to pull the iraqi government together in the face of a real threat of civil war. money matters. today at the first ever white house summit on working families, vice president joe biden got down to brass tacks. >> don't hold it against me that i don't own a single stock or bond. don't hold it against me i have no saving account but i have a great pension and a great salary. for real. >> and oh, so close at the world cup. euphoria quickly turned to stunning heartbreak for team usa. now it will be a fight to the finish to survive that infamous group of death.
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good day. i'm peter alexander in washington, holding down the fort while andrea mitchell travels today alongside secretary of state john kerry. the threat of an all-ought civil war is becoming more real as isis militants continue their offensive taking more cities and towns in the north. particularly some crucial areas on the border with syria included there. secretary of state kerry arrived in baghdad as we've reported now today urging leaders there to create a more inclusive government in the hopes of quelling the violence and subduing the isis attack. >> i emphasize that defending iraq against isil depends largely on their ability, all of them, to form a new government and to do it quickly. it is essential that iraq's leaders form a genuinely
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inclusive government as rapidly as possible within their own constitutional framework. >> as we've told you, andrea mitchell is on assignment traveling with secretary kerry. she's just filed this report. >> peter, secretary kerry said he got a commitment from all of the leaders he met with today. key leaders near baghdad, including prime minister maliki. that they understand the seriousness and that they are committed to meeting the deadline of the end of this month to create a new government. there's been no sign they are coming together and he wouldn't say whether any of them, the other leaders, feel that prime minister maliki can do the job and lead this country as he has clearly not, according to most u.s. officials, and his critics near iraq. but that said, kerry also stated very flatly that president obama will not hesitate to use military force even if there is not a new government formed. if he feels that it is necessary to stop isis from taking over this country. so he laid down that threat of
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military force. at the same time said while we're not choosing winners and losers and we're not going to say whether we support one over the other, they all get it. that they all agree to his meetings today. that they will deliver and create a new government. it is a very short timeline. he also made a lot of other news. he said first of all that as of today the international inspectors and monitors have said that 100% of syria's declared chemical weapons and munitions have now been taken, degraded or accounted for and removed from syria. so that is a big step. but at the same time, he acknowledged that chlorine, which is not a chemical -- a regulated chemical weapon but that chlorine gas has been found in syrian stockpiles and that syrians have allegedly, according to international monitors, used chlorine which is also a deadly or toxic gas. so there still is a problem clearly on the syrian front. he refused to take
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responsibility that the u.s.' failure to take action against syria or arm the more moderate rebels helped create isis. isis was created by al qaeda in iraq and was an outgroup of that and was aiming its direction initially at toppling bashar al assad. and on the egyptian front, a lot of news today. egypt went ahead, just after the meeting yesterday in cairo with secretary kerry, and egypt's new president asisi that he would intervene and help overturn the mass sentences, death sentences of protesters and the sentences and jailings of al jazeera journalists. today the al jazeera journalists were sentenced to harsh sentences of seven years in prison. kerry said that is unconscionable. it's against every standard of human rights and civic society, civil society and that he had called egypt's foreign minister today to protest what happened
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today to the al jazeera journalists. there's a lot of news here today but focusing on iraq, he says there are promises. now let's see whether they will deliver. peter? >> andrea mitchell again reporting alongside secretary of state john kerry in that region. also in baghdad, we are joined by nbc's chief foreign correspondent richard engel. good to visit with you. i want to get a sense if you can share with us the status report in terms of isis' gains, most notably the reports they've taken over some of the key crossings. specifically the crossing to syria. >> isis has consolidated its control in north and northwestern iraq. just over the weekend was consolidating its positions along the syrian border. the syrian border is incredibly important because isis has fixed bases inside syria. that's where it feels comfortable. that's where it's been at home for the last two years or so.
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and it is now able because of taking these new border positions to move from its mixed locations in syria comfortably to the front lines in iraq without being harassed in any way by iraqi forces while crossing that border. that's over the weekend, a big development here, one that has u.s. officials and the iraqi government certainly very concerned. just today another border was targeted. that was the border with jordan. so if you look at the region, isis militants control the border area with syria, the border area with jordan and pretty much everything in between coming all the way down to the outskirts of baghdad, coming right down to the area of abu ghraib, not far from the baghdad airport. so a large portion of the country. and the iraqi government, the iraqi armed forces haven't been able to do bmuch about it. their forces were overrun.
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today along the jordanian border, they withdrew before they got into a fight. you see here today, as we were just hearing from andrea mitchell, that secretary kerry here wants political changes. he wants maliki to convene a new government quickly. but it's not entirely clear that putting together a new government, reshuffling the same deck is going to have any impact here. the problems are far greater than that. you have two parts of the country, in fact, that have broken away from baghdad. you have the jihadistan area, a term u.s. officials are using when they describe this region, that you have this very violent sunni area, and then you have the kurdish area, which is operating independently. and then you have baghdad and the south. so if you just reshuffle the deck here in baghdad and there's no indication that we're getting that maliki has any intention of personally stepping down, will that be enough to unscramble this egg? >> richard, can you give us a
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sense of the capabilities of the iraqi security forces right now? as there were some reporting in "the new york times" there was very limited air power that they have. where does it stand? >> the iraqi security forces are -- don't really have an offensive capability. and i've been hearing from some of the same sources as "the new york times" on this. and as i've been hearing this, talking to both iraqi commanders, iraqi politicians, u.s. officials, i wonder, how did this happen? the u.s. spent $25 billion and years and gave lives to build up the iraqi security forces. how is it that they are melting away, that they don't have an offensive capability, that they barely have air power, that they don't have the ability to reconquer territory. take not only -- try and take the big city like mosul, which is a city of 2.5 million people or so. i can understand how that's a major problem. but don't have the ability to
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even take some of the smaller towns that are continuing to fall. it has been described to me this is now a defensive army. a checkpoint army. an army that can set up checkpoints and maybe patrol the streets of a place like baghdad but not really maneuver effectively. and that is an enormous setback for the entire u.s. mission here. to put this in perspective, and i think it's import toont haant some perspective on this. for the last ten years or so, this has been a u.s. and iranian project. the two sides not working together but both working on the ground to create a new system here. since the u.s. invaded, 2003, this has been a u.s. and iran have been working to create a new government, a new armed forces, a shiite government and you have these militants now, the sunnis who want to do away with everything that has been put in place for the last decade. >> we appreciate it very much. we're going to check in with you over the course of the next several days. obviously, a lot of moving
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parts. richard engel, thanks so much. secretary kerry has the unenviable task of calling for unity in iraq. certainly a place that doesn't have it right now. >> we are not making any preconditions with respect to who can or can't take part. that is up to iraq. it's up to the people of iraq. neither the united states nor any other country has the right to pick who leads iraq. that is up to the people of iraq. >> we're joined by ambassador chris hill, former ambassador to iraq. he's now dean of the joseph korbel school in denver. john kerry meeting face to face with a series of leaders in iraq. what real leverage does the u.s. have here? seems the leverage is a lot more with the system than it is with prime minister maliki himself. >> well, that's very true, but i
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think john kerry has really hit the right note, which is this is not up to the united states to choose their prime minister, but he has clearly conveyed the fact that we don't want to see maliki with a third term. and i think he's allowing the iraqi political system, which is moving forward and moving forward quite quickly in these days to come up with someone not named maliki as prime minister. the real trick, and i think this is where the real diplomacy has to be is in two yairareas. one is to say to maliki, you've been terrific, but time to turn it over to someone else. it's a hard message. and then, two, and this is even more important. to say to the sunnis, look. we have supported the idea of a change to get someone not named maliki, but you sunnys have to get real. and do you want to be with baghdad, albeit shia or do you want to be with this blood thirsty hoard that's coming in to western iraq. i think the sunnis at some
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point, the iraqi sunnis are going to have to step forward. overall, i think this has been a sort of real get real tour by the secretary, going to egypt, being very clear about the human rights problems, but at the same times, clear about the u.s. desire to have normal relations with the egyptian government. that's a -- that's the right way to go. and then to come into iraq and convey these tough messages. >> and ambassador, you are the perfect person to pose this to since you were there for the first six months of the last government formation process after the iraqi elections in 2010. i guess that formation process lasted another three months or so after you left. but what are the prospects in your eyes for that happening right now in that region, in the middle of a deep crisis? >> yeah, well, maliki is the master of sort of rope a dope government formation. he'll delay. he'll just let other punitive candidates try to beat him up. but he'll be there at the end. so you can't just leave it up to
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him. and so the problem we had in 2010 was that maliki finally agreed to some things. he had eight sunnis in his cabinet. another six or seven kurds. there wasn't a lack of sunni outreach in that cabinet. the problem was he didn't kind of complete, he didn't go forward with it. he tried to take back some things. so i think this time people have to say, you know, fool me once, shame on you. but this time, we're not going to allow it to happen. so maliki is a tough customer and he should not be underestimated. and let me just say one more thing. he is not the only problem in that country. >> that's certainly appearing to be the case. i want to ask you finally, before we let you go about the topic of iran. a lot of conversations about the u.s. and iran, at least talking about how to resolve this crisis. again now new tensions between the two with ayatollah criticizing the u.s. for getting involved. what's your take on that? >> i think we ought to have this as part of our political
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dialogue. we've talked about it before. we need to intensify that. bill burns, the deputy secretary of state, has talked to the iranians about hezbollah and other issues, including iraq. we need have this political talk. i don't think we should be talking to qods force, that is the republican guard types, qods force, about, you know, coordinating military things. that is clearly a bridge too far at this point. >> ambassador hill, we appreciate your time and expertise. thanks for it. >> thank you. now to that close call in brazil. team usa just 30 seconds, really one kick away from a direct pass to the world cup round of 16 and surviving what's been called the group of death with a win over portugal. instead, the u.s. game came, well, came down to this. down 1-0 in the second half. then this beautiful laser from the american jermaine jones to tie things up at 1-1. then a little later this scrappy
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goal. things finished off by the captain clint dempsey put the u.s. in the lead had a lot of americans, including my entire family, believing this was it. but with seconds to go, you saw it and we have to play it again. portugal took the wind out of the u.s. sails. this final header hitting the pause button on the american dreams of moving to the next world cup stage. they can still do it, but will need a win or a tie against germany on thursday for a guaranteed one-way ticket to the knockout round. we are still believing. this i.
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and won't work in the aftermath of 9/11 when 19 guys armed with airline tickets and box cutters came all the way from afghanistan and killed 3,000 of our citizens. >> former vice president dick cheney clearly conveying his differences with kentucky senator and fellow republican rand paul on u.s. foreign policy. you can expect that debate over what to do in iraq to stay heated. and broader implications, obviously, all the way to 2016. joining us for our daily fix, we begin with that topic with chris cillizza, and managing editor of post politics.com, as well as "washington post" editorial columnist ruth barkis. chris, we're going to play some rand paul in a second. i want to get a sense from you after the superpac, the op ed. how much of the dick cheney political offense sieve about the president and how much is directed at a certain wing of his party in 2016 hopes perhaps of rand paul? >> i think it's a lot focused on rand paul. clearly dick cheney disagrees
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with president obama's foreign policy, but i think this is about the fight within the republican party that's going on, peter. it's going to go on in 2016. i will point out, it's happening in the mississippi special electi election. henry barber, the nephew of hailey barber supporting thad cochran in the special election tomorrow. called rand paul and his wing of the party, peace nicks. doesn't want to get involved with them. that's the chris mcdaniel wing of the party. so you are seeing it play out right now. i think it will play out in a bigger way come 2016. >> i want to hear a little of david gregory's conversation with senator paul and get your thoughts. >> do you think dick cheney is a credible critic of this president? >> i thing same questions could be said of those who supported the iraq war. were they right in their predictions. were there weapons of mass destruction? that's what the world was sold on. was democracy easily achievable. was the war won in 2005 when many of these people said it was won? they didn't really, i think, understand the civil war that
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would break out. >> let's turn to the spring of 2016 if we can for a second. how does this conversation play out on the debate stage in the republican primaries right now with rand paul, obviously, carving out as some of his opponents called the peacenik view. >> i love that word. a blast from the past. and i didn't know, chris is laughing in my ear. i didn't know he was old enough to remember that word. but i think it's -- rand paul and i've written about this previously, really taps into, i don't know if you'd go so far as to call it isolationist, but leave us alone, let us tend to our own business, and the republican party, just like in the democratic party. and i think you're going to see a lot of that conversation play out, both in the republican primary and to a certain extent, we don't know how the democratic primary may shape up. in the democratic primary, it's an important debate to have going forward and, boy, choosing between the foreign policy of dick cheney and the foreign
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policy of rand paul, that is what i would call a terrible choice because neither one of them has got it right. >> speaking ev ining of 2016, a note about hillary clinton. we've heard her in recent days struggling with the topic of her personal wealth. this was vice president joe biden a short time ago at this working families event taking place at the white house. take a listen and see if you notice any contrast. >> the first thing we're going to say is i'm not buying that. he's got a mildly expensive suit on. he's vice president of the united states of america. he makes not withstanding -- this is, of course, a man in congress. he still makes a lot of money as vice president of the united states. and i do, by the way. i do. don't hold it against me that i don't own a single stock or bond. don't hold it i have no savings account. but i get a great pension and a good salary. for real. >> seems like biden figured out
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a different way to handle this than hillary clinton. >> do you think he had anybody in mind when making those comments? >> biden has a narrative. i'm ordinary joe. i'm from scranton. we don't -- we make a lot of money compared to you but we really don't have a lot. hillary clinton has to figure out a better answer to the boat loads of money question. >> that's what i was going to say to our beatnik hillary clinton. >> she wants to differentiate herself from what she views as a mitt romney silver spoon in your mouth sort of upbring smeepg was raised middle class. yes, they've succeeded but she's not like them. the problem there, i think is most people are going to look at outcomes. this is a family that's made more than $100 million since leaving the white house. no one thinks the clintons are not in the wealthiest 1% of americans. by trying to slice the onion, apple, whatever fruit or vegetable you want to slice, so thin, i think she loses it. just say, yes.
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we've done extremely well but i've never forgotten where i grew up. don't try to talk about how you are less wealthy than someone who is even more wealthy than you. all of you are much more wealthy than the average person. accept that and then move forward with the conversation. >> seems like an onion these days with a lot of democratic consultants crying right now. >> very nice. >> i see what you did there. appreciate it. thank you. coming up, as well, this other headline making news. the terror suspect behind the 2012 attack on the consulate in benghazi heading to the u.s. after american special operations forces captured him in libya last week. nbc news has now learned that the suspect, this man, ahmed abu khattala is aboard the "uss new york" and could arrive stateside by the end of this week. still not clear whether he's being interrogated by intelligence officials or read his miranda rights and is undergoing question by fbi and justice department officials about his role in the attack
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i don't think anyone participating here is -- makes any moral judgment about any of the choices people make as long as they are conscious choices with clear opportunities. and our job it seems to me, is to provide as many opportunities so that the choices that are always going to be difficult, the choices that have to be made, are at least more rational. >> vice president joe biden a short time ago. part of a wide-ranging discussion at the first ever white house summit on working families that will feature economists, labor leaders, everyday americans and president obama. char charmaine givens-thomas is participating. we're pleased to have you with us. >> i'm happy to be here. >> we appreciate you being here.
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i want to get a sense about your background. you've been working at walmart the last eight years. last year you made $23,000 because you got plenty of bonuses. more specifically, tell me about this petition that you helped launch that has now brought on board 200,000 signatures. what's the message? >> the message is we were asking president obama to meet with us because wall street had came back from the -- sorry, the -- the economy crisis. main street had not. so we are struggling on main street every day. people are not able to make it on like myself. i make about 550 every two weeks. sometimes i'm not able to pay utility bills. >> your gas was recently turned off. >> that's correct. it was. >> i want to get a sense. walmart has, for its part, taken some positive steps, including
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an improved pregnancy policy. here's part of the statement they said to msnbc today. they say walmart offers opportunity, a ladder up in life. here some are facts. we have 15,000 to 50,000 job openings on any given day and no special background is required. we promote 170,000 people each year and 40% of those promotions go to people in their first year. 75% of our store management teams started as hourly shoeshts and it may surprise you but those folks earn $50,000 to $250,000 a year. you can think of it like this. it's easy to get in. it's easy to move up and then the sky is the limit. where does the fight stand right now? where is -- what is your desire? what do you think can happen right now with the help of this administration and with the help of efforts like yours? >> well, i think the fight starts with, as far as pregnant women are concerned, that there are too many pregnant women struggling at walmart.
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their needs are not being met. the policies are not being enforced. there's still too many miscarriages of that end. a lot of people are still struggling. very much so at walmart. they -- instead of -- i'm a full-time associate at walmart and i still only make 24 to 34 hours a week. so they can make people that want to be full-time associates are considered full-time, they can give them more hours. >> another point that we learned in advance of your rival here is that you marched alongside martin luther king in chicago as a teenager. as you sit with me, i want to get a sense from you. if you see any similarities between the civil rights issues of that day and the income inequality issues that you continue to fight for today? >> absolutely, yes. i marched with dr. martin luther king when i was 15 years old. and that left an impression on
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me that i could never like sit back and see a wrong and just not say anything. so with that being said, now that i find myself almost nine years at walmart, when i see a wrong, i can't just be quiet and sit back and not address the wrongs. so in america, yes, i find it very, very crazy that we could be having the same discussion from when -- >> several years later. >> yes in 2014. >> charmaine givens-thomas, thanks for coming. we appreciate your time. thanks for your work. in an egyptian court today, three journalists for al jazeera english were convicted on terrorism charges and sentenced to seven years in prison in a maximum security prison. the three were arrested in december as part of a sweeping crackdown on islamist supporters of ousted president mohamed morsi and charged with supporting the muslim brotherhood. those three journalists deny the
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charges. the ruling comes a day after secretary of state john kerry met with egypt's new president in cairo. today in baghdad, andrea mitchell asked the secretary about his reaction to the sentencing. >> when i heard about that verdict today, i was so concerned about it and, frankly, disappointed in it, that i immediately picked up the telephone and i talked to the foreign minister of egypt. and i registered our serious displeasure at this kind of a verdict under the circumstances where we find ourselves today. now today's conviction is, obviously, it's a chilling and draconian sentence. and, you know, it's deeply disturbing to see in the midst of egypt's transition. wer planty to combine solar and natural gas at the same location. during the day, we generate as much electricity as we can using solar.
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decision by uganda's government to alienate, harass and incarcerate gay and lesbian citizens through their new anti-homosexuality law. in response, the u.s. is cutting aid to uganda, restricting visas and cancelling a planned military exercise. sarah is with an organization that has been at the forefront in the battle against discrimination, pushing the administration for a forceful response to uganda's recent political steps. sarah, nice to visit with you. >> i want to put up some of the new measures on your screen. announced by the white house in response to this law and hope that you can give us a better understanding of the kind of intolerance and discrimination that lgbt ugandans are facing right now. what are they up against? >> for a long time it's been a problem for lgbt ugandans to be open and honest about who they are. but the government recently took steps to make it a lifetime
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sentence in prison for lgbt ugandans. >> lifetime sentence? >> lifetime sentence. so you are put in jail for the rest of your life. it applies not only to lgbt people but affiliations that associate with lgbt individuals. >> they said uganda is a sovereign country and can never bow to anybody or be blackmailed by anybody on a decision it took in its interests, even if it involves threats to cut off all financial assistance. so is the ugandan government in any way feeling pressure to back down? can they politically? >> these are very recent steps that the obama administration has taken. we hope they are strong enough and the obama administration will continue to analyze the situation and make decisions going forward to continue to put pressure, not only on uganda but countries like nigeria and russia as well who also have terrible policies in place. >> those are sort of the
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headlines. uganda, russia. these are the primary spots. any other countries that we're not paying attention? >> brunai. >> i want to turn back to this country and another effort to fight for marriage equality for all within the united states. this map of the states with marriage equality or providing same-sex spousal rights. give us an idea of the next few states that we should be focused on right now and the key legislative or political battles that are taking place right now. >> we've seen a real shift. going from 2012 where we had numerous states passing it through state legislatures. now it's really through the court system. recently oregon and pennsylvania both the governors and the attorney generals chose not, too peel rulings to bring marriage equality to those states. >> what's up next? >> it's very hard to know. we have over 70 cases throughout the united states on marriage equality. more than half of them in federal courts.
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and it is a guessing game day by day. >> i want to end on hillary clinton. her name in the news occasionally. she was recently grilled on a conversation i think best described as awkward by some who heard it. by npr's terry gross for making her own evolution on same-sex marriage. we're going to refresh our viewers by playing a quick clip on that and then get some of your thoughts. >> just to clarify, just one more question. would you say your view evolved since the '90s or the american public evolved allowing you to state your real view? >> i think i'm an american. i think we have all evolved. and it's been one of the fastest, most sweeping transformations i'm aware of. >> a lot of people already supported -- >> to be fair, terry, not that many. >> so do you think there are serious concerns within the lgbt community right now about hillary clinton and her sort of commitment to marriage equality, if she would appear to be the
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front-runner for the 2016 race? >> i don't think anyone has serious concerns. hillary clinton has long been a friend of the lgbt community and has been advocating for the concerns not only in the united states but around the world as well. so very little concern. >> sarah wareblow, thanks for your time. american p.o.w. bowe bergdahl has been received from the hospital and will be receiving outpatient care at ft. sam houston. bergdahl has been hospitalized and cared for by military personnel since his release last month after five years in captivity in the hands of the taliban in afghanistan. a military spokesperson said bergdahl's reintegration process was progressing with, quote, exposure to more people and a gradual increase in social interactions.
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i'm peter alexander. at least seven people were killed in nigeria today when a bomb tore through a state college in kano. it's not clear who is behind the attacks but nigeria has been under attack by boko haram from frequent bombings to the kidnapping of more than 200 schoolgirls still in captivity after more than two months. i'm joined by the president of the cameroon people's party and an outspoken advocate -- activist. we appreciate your time today. >> thank you. >> we bhrd this awful headline today. seven more individuals killed today. there have been frequent attacks recently. the last week bombing that took place at the world cup viewing center, i think 13 killed there. 15 others killed at a market in northern nigeria. a lot of the world has been looking elsewhere, what has boko haram been doing since it first made headlines? >> yeah, we have to realize that this is a movement that is
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growing, that is strong, that is organized. just in 2014, the number is over 3,300 people killed. and that is in northern nigeria, but also in northern cameroon where i am from. so this is a movement that is having regional impact and that really poses the strongest threat that central africa has seen in the last 50 years. >> there's obviously a lot of distrust that exists within the nigerian military, specifically right now within nigeria and the way they are viewed from cameroon as well. the belief system being that a lot of people think there's a little insider trading taking place there where people are effectively changing sides or helping boko haram. how much confidence is there in the nigerian president, goodluck jonathan? >> i think that unare nfortunat the nigerian government and our
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cameroonian government has not reacted strongly and quickly enough to this threat. >> what is it going to take? what needs to happen? >> what needs to happen from the entire world, because this is going to be the world's problem in a few weeks or a few months, is extreme pressure on these governments to have an adequate military response. and that means that you have to get rid of the corruption because there is something in these militaries. but it also means they need know-how. they need to provide the soldiers who are on the front with equipment. both on the nigerian side and cameroonian side. the soldiers are not well equipped. and then secondly needs to be a humanitarian response. cameroon is -- has over 150,000 refugees right now. with over 20,000 of them being nigerian. nigeria itself is seeing about 250,000 displaced people. so this is -- >> 250,000? >> 250,000 displaced people.
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>> so many of the people, at least much of the focus is focused on young women and girls specifically. that's something you've invested so much of your energy on, that topic. give us a sense right now what we can do or what is being done to help these young women get the education that is needed to put them in better positions to have successful lives and out of harm's way. >> i think short term, as i said is that we need to keep them safe. we need a military response. second element, short term is that those who are being displaced and the villages that have been attacked, we need to secure the schools so that young women and young, you know, young boys can go to school. in wider range, women from across the region, from four countries, are coming together in an initiative called women standing up for africa. >> that's an issue we want to focus on. we'll have to bring you back to talk about it more. thank you so much. i appreciate it very much. the power of education.
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>> thank you for having me. coming up, it's known as the drone memo. now the classified government document has been released by order of a federal court. justice correspondent pete williams joins us next with those details. ♪ ♪ [ girl ] my mom, she makes underwater fans that are powered by the moon. ♪ [ birds squawking ] my mom makes airplane engines that can talk.
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we're back now on "andrea mitchell reports." breaking news from new york. a u.s. court appeals released a previously secret memo. pete williams is joining us with more of those details. what have we seen? >> the 41-page memo was written about 14 months before the u.s. actually killed anwar al awlaki, a u.s. citizen by a drone strike in yemen. what the memo does is goes step by step through the question of whether doing that would have been illegal. the memo was written in july of 2010. the drone strike was carried out about 14 months later. what it says is that it is true.
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there is a law that makes it illegal to kill an american citizen overseas. but the memo says there is a public safety justification exception to that. just as a policeman can lawfully kill someone in the united states, when they have the proper reason for that. they say al awlaki was operational in al qaeda, that killing him would be a legitimate use of the war power, that it would not violate the international law of war and that it was acceptable, even though the killing would take place in yemen, which was outside of the normal al qaeda battlefield in afghanistan and pakistan. the memo says the justice department couldn't find any case that said a battlefield couldn't be extended legally whenever someone was undertaking action against the u.s. outside that battlefield. so it said there is a right to target members of an enemy's armed forces, capture wasn't feasible. and for all those reasons, the killing would be legally justified, the memo says, whether it was carried out by
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dod operating the drone or the cia. >> again, that drone killing memo coming out after a long new york court fight. pete williams with the latest reporting on that breaking news. pete, thank you. that's going to do it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." yand andrea is traveling with secretary of state kerry. remember to follow the show online and on facebook. you can do it on twitter as well, @mitchellreports. follow me @peteralexander. "ronan farrow daily" is up next. thanks for joining us.
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together, we can't force them to do. >> if we spend our time debating what happened 11 or 12 yearsing -- >> what's going on now i don't blame on president obama. >> rand paul is basically an isolationist. >> the mississippi run-off elections. >> the cochran campaign reaching out to african-american voters. >> he's making an argument on behalf of the federal government and the importance of the federal government. sting is worth hundreds of millions but he's decided his kids are going to have to nak on his own. >> he calls his wealth a shadow over his children. he's told them not to expect a big inheritance. it's a great cross, and it is an equalizer! >> it was in our hands and slipped through our fingers. >> the usa thought they had it. can diplomacy save iraq at this point? secretary of state john kerry sure hopes so. he's in iraq today meet with
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high-ranking iraqi officials including prime minister al maliki. he's not exactly singing maliki's praises. >> it's essential that iraq's leaders form a genuinely inclusive government as rapidly as possible within their own constitutional framework. >> president obama is not too keen on the current leadership either. he hinted at that with mika brzezinski lately. >> there's an opportunity to form a new government there. the test now for not just mr. maliki but all the leadership in iraq is, are they able to set aside their suspicions, their sectarian preferences for the good of the whole? and we don't know. the one thing i do know is that if they fail to do that, then no amount of military action by the united states can hold that country together. >> and hanging over all of these tense
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