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good thursday, everyone. i'm craig melvin in for tamron hall. tamron is on assignment. this is "news nation." we start with breaking news. within the last hour, the supreme court justices handed down two decision, one limiting the president's power to make recess appointments and they also ruled that a massachusetts law requiring protesters to stay at least 35 feet from the entrances to abortion clinics is unconstitutional. nbc's justice correspondent pete williams joins me now. pete, let's start with that abortion protester law. was this at all a surprise or no? >> reporter: well, it did seem from the oral argument that the court had reel doubts about the constitutionality of this law. the opinion of the court says that it's simply too blunt an instrument to paint a line on the sidewalk 35 feet from entrances as massachusetts has done and say no one can enter that zone to protest or express
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any views and talk to people as they're entering the clinics. what the majority says here today -- by the way, this is a unanimous opinion -- they say that these were really not protesters at issue in this case. these are people who wanted to talk to the patients and keeping them away is -- violates the first amendment. it's shutting off a traditional public forum, which is a sidewalk. while the court says it's easier for massachusetts to enforce this kind of law, it isn't balanced that the constitution's first amendment requires. it is unanimous, but beneath that unanimity, the conservatives on the court say that there's -- say the court really made a mistake here by not saying as well that the buffer zone was a violation of the first amendment -- for another reason because it kept out of the zone people who wanted to oppose abortion but allowed into it people who wanted to support the people entering the clinics and they said in that sense the court has two first amendments, one for everything else and one for abortion.
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but in any case, the court is unanimous in the holding here that the massachusetts law is unconstitutional. >> let's turn to the recess appointment decision. how significant is this one? >> reporter: this one was again sort of expected based on how the argument went. as a practical matter, the recess appointment power is dead. because what it means now is that a party that opposes the president can hold these little pro forma sessions every three days and that would basically frustrate a president's power to use the recess appointment authority given to him by the constitution. what the court says here is that a recess has to last at least ten days. and the senate does these little pro forma sessions that last literally a matter of seconds, the court says that's enough to frustrate the president's ability. now, it didn't go the additional step and say that a president can only nominate people to fill a vacancy when those vacancies arise during a recess. while the opinion is unanimous,
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some of the court's members say they should have said that, too. but as a practical matter, recess appointments are dead. both republicans and democrats have tried this technique when the president of the opposing party is in the white house. unless the white house and the senate are in the same party, it's going to be very hard to get these recess appointments done. >> does this mean the hobby lobby decision, is that coming on monday now? >> reporter: it is. well, we'll get the rest of the decisions that are ready to be handed down. hobby lobby is certainly one of them. we would expect it. you can never rule out the possibility -- and remember this happened with citizens united, the court would say, we can't decide this yet. we'll hold it over for the next term. but given all that's at stake with that case, i think it's unlikely. we'll probably get it monday. >> pete williams, thank you, sir. appreciate it. game on in brazil.
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we are exactly one hour away -- a little less than an hour away from kickoff where the u.s. men's soccer team will take on powerhouse germany, a team that many experts think will ultimately hoist the trophy next month. perhaps not. here's a vine posted on u.s. soccer's twitter account showing the team arriving at the stadium for the game a short time ago. in this country, excitement has been building since that thrilling but ultimately heartbreaking game sunday against portugal when team usa just seconds away from moving on only to be denied at the very last second. u.s. coach assuring fans that the u.s. is going for a win today even though a tie would be good enough to see them to the knockout round. >> we want to beat germany, we want to be first in our group. so we're not thinking about a tie. >> u.s. fans geared up for the game but the conditions right
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now in brazil not so good. take a look at this. torrential rain causing widespread flooding in that coastal city. the forecast calling for even more rain throughout the game. it looks bad. there are concerns about whether the stadium's drainage system can actually handle all of that water. fifa officials announced in the last hour despite what you're seeing right now, the game will go on. but the final decision will be left up to the refs who will reportedly be inspecting that field any minute now. fifa also announcing a major decision regarding luis suarez. he's the guy that was seen biting that italian player earlier this week. fifa banned suarez for nine matches now. he's also banned from, quote, any football-related activity for four months. his world cup effectively over. kevin baxter joins me on the phone now with the latest there.
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from the refs given the green light? is this going to happen? >> reporter: we don't know. the field is in pretty good shape given the fact that there hasn't been a tarp and it's been really pouring. but there is flooding throughout the city. the u.s. friends and family group are trapped in their hotel as are a huge contingent of american fans who are here, they're stuck in their hotels. their buses can't get through the floodwaters to get to them. >> so they may have to watch the match from their hotel rooms? >> reporter: yes, in a language you don't understand. that can't be fun. >> not at all. for folks who don't follow the sport closely, talk to us a little bit about what a wet field might mean for our team, what a wet field might mean for the german team. >> reporter: well, actually in the case of this game when both teams only need a draw to go through, it's not going to have the huge impact it might if one
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team needed to score a couple of goals. it just makes it -- it's tough to keep your footing. the ball slows down a lot, depending on how wet the field gets and how waterlogged the ball gets. these new balls are designed to do really well in wet weather. the balls in south africa were designed to work in altitude. passes are difficult to make. you have to strike the ball harder than you might normally. but with both teams going through with a draw, even a scoreless draw, it's not going to have the impact that it might -- in a way, i think it may actually benefit the american team because it's going to slow the game down. and that's going to neutralize germany's quickness, which is one of their advantages. >> the coach insists we are going to be playing to win. but is there a feeling among some of their fans there is that you've talked to at least that, hey, let's play it safe and get the tie so that we definitely advance?
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>> yeah, especially in this wet weather. the u.s. has made a couple of lineup changes already. you wonder if they're resting players or they think these players will do better in the wet weather. but i think both teams are going to come out and play very honest for the first half and early into the second half. but if they get to 60 or 65 minutes especially in inclement weather and the teams are tied, i think both sides will shut it down. the reason i think that, they don't want to risk injury in this weather. a tie gets them through. they'll turn conservative. and the last thing you want to do, to push for a goal that you really don't need and risk a counterattack, the other team coming back and scoring against you and all of a sudden you're out of the world cup -- that's a danger from the u.s., not so much for germany. there is a tiebreaker in the event of that. germany has a huge lead in that department. the u.s. has just a two-goal differential lead over ghana.
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>> kevin baxter, are you there yet? have you made it out of your hotel room? >> reporter: yes, we have been in the media center for a little while. but it's kind of like back in elementary school on rainy days, usually the media center is empty. it's packed right now. and it smells like wet hair. so -- >> thank you, sir. as we talk to you, we've got live pictures here from recife. these drenched fans starting to pour into the stadium. kevin, thank you, sir. do appreciate you. fans here in the united states getting ready for the big game as well. lots of viewing parties across this country, including new york city, washington, d.c., chicago. that's where we find nbc's katy tur. she's hanging out at grant park. what's the scene like there? how are the fans holding up? >> reporter: it smells a lot better than wet hair out here. i'll tell you that much, craig. it's cool.
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we've got a few hours till the game and this place is packed. they had about 10,000 people here for sunday's match against portugal. they're expecting up to 20,000 people for this game. and remember, it's a thursday. it's coming on around 11:00 here on a thursday. so a lot of these people are going to have to take off work. although it's kind of a young crowd, if you look. under 30 for the most part. lots of young people. maybe they don't have jobs. who knows? but they are here. they are going to be watching and it's going to be an exciting match. massive match as you guys have been talking about, playing germany. and if we do not win, we still have a chance, which is making everybody super excited because this is the world cup fever is really just growing in this country by the minute. 25 million or so watched on sunday. they expect there to be even more watching today. you get the sense that it really is finally breaking through. you say that every few years when there's a world cup. we're finally going to start paying attention to soccer. there are some doubters out
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there, including my producer who says it's not going to happen. but i haven't seen anybody this excited for a soccer game before. even four years ago, when we were into the whole landon donovan thing. >> katy, thank you. developing crisis in the upper midwest where some residents in the upper midwest along the mississippi river are bracing for that river to crest at some point today. while the area has already seen a record amount of rainfall, officials say the worst may still be yet to come. nbc's john yang is along the river in minnesota. >> reporter: craig, the river here in st. paul has now passed -- minnesota is known as the land of 10,000 lakes. and these days, it seems like all of them are overflowing. and rivers, too. in delano, the waters of the crow river have been an unwelcomed visitors. >> you get a little flooding in the spring. but this is unbelievable.
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>> reporter: other parts of the country are inundated with rain, too, like arlington, texas. fast-moving heavy storms triggered flash floods that forced a theme park six flags over texas and hurricane harbor to shut down. in minnesota, the twin cities is having its wettest june on record, nearly 11 inches of rain so far. for the first half of the year, more than 25 inches, nearly 80% the average for a full year. >> this is not good. but we're tough people. we can handle it. >> reporter: across the state, damage is being measured in the millions of dollars. hundreds of acres of crops are under water. >> the farm impact is horrific. >> reporter: even some of life's most important moments have been disrupted. 35 counties have declared emergencies. thousands of people driven from their homes, even in the evacuations, minnesota nice prevails. >> all these trailers and people showed up all of a sudden -- we
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had two hours to evacuate. and we get done in less than an hour and a half. that's like amazing. >> reporter: forecasters expect the river to crest later this evening and then start to recede. but all this water is going to take some time to get out of here. forecasters say they don't expect the river to be below flood stage until well after the fourth of july. craig? >> john yang, thank you. up next, the mysterious case of a boy who disappeared in detroit 11 days ago and the shocking way that his father apparently found out he'd been found. >> we are getting reports that your son has been found alive in your basement. >> what? >> more details on where that 12-year-old was found and what happened. also today, the white house fires back at republicans looking to sue the administration claiming president obama has exceeded his power. more of chuck todd's exclusive
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interview with the white house press secretary. plus this -- >> i am reinstated as an ordained minister of the united methodist church. >> i'll talk live with that pastor, frank schaefer, who was defrocked after presiding over his son's same-sex wedding and now vows to never be silent on lgbt issues again. we'll talk about that. and you can talk to us as well. join our conversation online. there we are. the "news nation" team all over twitter, all over facebook. we're on instagram, too. be or what you want to do, chances are we're already there. 12 brands. more hotels than anyone else in the world. like super 8, where every destination is super. save up to 15 percent and earn bonus points when you book at wyndhamrewards.com
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12-year-old son charlie missing back on june 14th. police say they found him yesterday near a back room in a basement hidden behind boxes confined by a 50-gallon barrel drum blocking him. his father appeared to find out that his son was alive on "nancy grace" last night. >> we are getting reports that your son has been found in your basement. sir? mr. bothuell, are you -- >> what? >> speaking afterward with reporters, charles bothuell adamant that he had nothing to do with his son's disappearance and he became emotional. >> thought my son was dead, man.
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>> do you know where he is? >> no, i don't. they wouldn't let my wife in the house. my son -- >> eric lawrence from the detroit free press has been covering the story from the beginning. do we know any more about how the boy was found yesterday? is there any way he could have built this space in the basement to hide any of that? >> police are saying he would have had help. what i was told this morning was that police believe he was in another location during the prior searches because police were all over that basement. he was found in a mechanical room is how it was described to me, very small. >> they never searched the mechanical room initially? >> well, i was told they searched all over that house and in the basement.
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and clearly he had not set up -- i was told it was not -- it was a set-up with some food and pop bottles but not what you call an elaborate set-up. >> how are the police treating the mother and the father right now? >> well, they're still investigating. they've said that they're still potentially looking at possibly some child abuse charges. but they don't know at this point. they're putting the pieces together. they'll be talking with folks at child protective services. they've been in contact with the county prosecutor's office to decide if charges are going to be warranted. but right now, they've said that all the family members are talking. so that's kind of where things stand right now. >> any history of abuse in the home? any record that this boy had run away before? >> the boy had run away, according to the father, he had run away -- i don't have a date on that. but it was some time ago. he said the police were able to locate the boy in a matter of
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hours at that point. this is when the father was -- he's been pretty critical of the police and how they initially responded to this call -- >> yeah, didn't he say that he tried calling 911 and it took three times for him to even be able to file the official report? is that right? >> that's what he said. he said he had called and he described the dispatcher as disrespectful and dismissive initially. but police did come out that evening. he said he thinks around midnight on the 14th. >> earlier in the day, hours before he was found, as i understand it, cops thought that there was evidence of a possible homicide. any idea what kind of evidence they had that would lead them to think that? >> we've heard a number of things. they confirmed today that they're looking at a piece of pvc pipe that's considered evidence in the case. we've heard other things but that was the one clear thing i was told this morning.
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>> eric lawrence, keep us up to date on this one, sir, please. >> yes, sir. >> thank you. for the first time, a federal appeals court has struck down a state's ban on same-sex marriage. now that case could very well head to the u.s. supreme court. >> people had bits and pieces and then didn't come forward with information or didn't act with a sense of urgency and it's unse unacceptable. >> the head of general motors says more recalls are possible. this as the company orders dealers to stop selling their number one car. it's just one of the stories we're following around the "news nation." lkswagen passat is heads above the competition, but we're not in the business of naming names. the fact is, it comes standard with an engine that's been called the benchmark of its class. really, guys, i thought... it also has more rear legroom than other midsize sedans. and the volkswagen passat has a lower starting price than... much better. vo: hurry in and lease the 2014
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the supreme court. and the stay will remain in place for three months which prevents same-sex couples from getting married in utah. meanwhile, a pastor defrocked after presiding over his gay son's marriage has been reinstated. a nine-member panel from the united methodist church said tuesday it decided to overturn the decision to defrock frank schaefer calling it on illegitimate effort to punish him because he might perform same-sex marriages in the future. on monday he and his son tim will attend a gay pride event at the white house. pastor schaefer, you've said you are elated by the decision. but i have to ask you, do you have any reservations rejoining the church that is apparently in such disagreement with you over same-sex relationships in general? >> no, absolutely not. i have made it clear even through my trial and i made it clear to the entire world, i've spoken at over 50 events, always
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saying i will never be silent again on this issue of lgbtq and i will perform another gay marriage if i'm asked. and i think the ruling by the nine-member panel which by the way was 8-1, is just remarkable in this respect, if you consider that because they reinstated me as a united methodist minister, sending a clear signal that things are changing in the united methodist church, too. that's my commitment. i want to continue to change things from the inside-out. >> we just got a statement from the office of pastor fisher who prosecuted you on whether he is going to appeal. it reads in part, pastor fisher is in a period of prayerful discernme discernment, studying the appeals court ruling to see if it is in accordance with the church law and whether an appeal is appropriate. do you anticipate an appeal? >> i sort of do. but i have a feeling that even if it gets to the judicial
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council, which is our parallel of the supreme court, that i have a very good chance to remain reinstated. but regardless, i am looking forward to my new charge in santa barbara, isla vista where i am right now. and i may have to learn how to surf. i'm excited about my new assignment. i think my future is going to be very bright. and i think the future for lgbt brothers and sisters is equally going to be bright. >> some have said -- some have suggested that this is a decision that is ultimately going to split the church. one reverend being quoted as saying, this ruling will unfortunately only strengthen the calls for some form of separation in an attempt to resolve the current crisis in our theology and church government. do you think that this is where the united methodist church is headed? >> it is entirely possible
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especially if there is no change at the 2016 general conference. however, i want to point out, gay marriage is not the problem. the problem is homophobia and discrimination. and as long as that is in place, as long as people are being harmed, our lgbtq brothers and sisters are being harmed with this horrible doctrine, we should all speak out. so i want to just set the record straight, we're fighting against homophobia, fightling against discrimination. and we have a moral -- what's the term? >> obligation. >> we can't just stand by. >> pastor -- i think you were looking for the word obligation. >> obligation, yes, thank you very much. >> pastor, good to see you. thank you for your time. up next, the white house blaming a gridlocked congress
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for the president's use of executive actions. more of that exclusive interview. >> the president said i'm going to use the authority vested in the presidency of the united states to take action on my own. >> all this comes as house republicans threaten to sue the obama administration. this provides fodder for the upcoming midterms. nbc's senior political editor, mark murray, on the other side of this break. also, a live look, team usa taking on germany, kicking off in mere minutes. just getting word that fifa has confirmed that the game will go on despite the flooding that we showed you at the top of the broadcast. watch parties gearing up across this country right now. coming up, we'll talk live to a reporter who has covered the last eight world cups. and that is grant park in chicago. lots of folks telling their boss, not coming in today.
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the white house is now firing back after house speaker john boehner announced his plans to sue the president over his use of executive actions. appearing on "the daily rundown" this morning, josh earnest said the president was forced to take executive action because lawmakers failed to act. >> they've engaged in a coordinated political strategy to block any progress, to block anything that the president supports. even commonsense things and things that have traditionally earned bipartisan support. the president said, i'm leaving the door open to working with democrats and republicans to make progress. but i'm not going to wait for republicans to try to find common ground. i'm going to use the authority vested in the presidency of the united states to take action on my own. >> josh earnest there, not to be confused with jay carney. boehner did not cite which executive actions that he plans to challenge in his lawsuit. but boehner accused the president of asserting a, quote
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king-like authority. and he defended the move while talking to reporters yesterday. >> not only does the president regularly ignore the law, he brags about it and brags about his willingness to change it unilaterally. first, this administration makes the wrong decisions then won't give the american people the straight answers. it's arrogance and incompetence right down the line. >> and a very important question is raised -- how do you expect congress to get anything done for the rest of the year when the house has decided to sue the president? joining me is mark murky. it looks, sounds and smells just a bit like your standard political posturing in d.c., mark. is that not the case here? >> craig, a lot of it has to do with politics. one of the reasons why, if you are a house member of congress right now, there aren't a whole
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lot of things that you can be able to go back and tell your voters, particularly your conservative base, on what you've been able to accomplish. there haven't been many laws that have been passed by the 113th congress. but you can say, i stood up to president obama. in fact, we've heard from house republican aides that one of the things that conservative constituents keep on telling republican members is they want their republican congressmen to take action against president obama and this lawsuit is one clear reason why. why this rises to another level of politics, there haven't been any specific examples cited of unconstitutionality or law breaking. so the house says, we're going to sue you for some generalities that we think are occurring and come up with specifics later, that leads us to believe it's a lot more politics than actual substance. >> during that interview with chuck todd a short time ago here on msnbc, josh earnest also said that president obama has
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apparently asked department of homeland security secretary jay johnson for some ideas about additional executive actions that he could take regarding immigration. what does that say to you? >> well, we know this has been coming. in fact, the president had directed his d.h.s. secretary, jay johnson, to look into this. in fact, it got delayed a bit because the president and the white house decided, we want to give house republicans a little bit more of a chance to see if they will end up passing immigration reform. we're coming up on the one-year anniversary tomorrow of the senate passing its own version of immigration reform. the house is yet to take up any type of immigration-related legislation to get them through. and the white house keeps on waiting and saying, we wanted to see if the house decides to act. but the further we go, the longer the house does not act, you are probably going to see some type of executive action taken by this administration and then again, that would end up having house republicans say,
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see, this lawsuit is justified by us. this president continues to do these types of things. but the white house would argue, as josh earnest just pointed out, when the house isn't doing something, someone needs to do something. that's when the executive branch comes in. >> mark, thank you sir. up next, the clintons join the effort to help tackle youth unemployment. >> nearly 6 million young americans between the ages of 16 and 24 are out of school and out of work. >> how small businesses are joining the cause now working to create opportunities for young workers while offering them hard-to-fill jobs. plus this -- >> just don't move. just don't move. >> a california man calms his pregnant wife and son as they get caught in some crossfire. it is just one of the stories we're following around the "news nation" today.
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working with educators, economists, communities and businesses of all sizes, we came up with a program to better connect young people with workforce training programs and employers looking to hire. we're calling this job one. >> former secretary of state hillary clinton promoting an initiative in denver to address the growing problem of youth unemployment in this country. with me now -- this is what the former secretary of state had to say about that. >> small business -- it's committing to recruit 100 small businesses to create new youth employment opportunities and work toward a real small business movement to train and
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hire young people. tell us a little bit more about the commitment that your organization made at cgi? >> the commitment we made was to go out and find 100 small businesses to kind of stand with us and be a part of the solution. we understand the problem is youth who are out of school and unemploy unemployed. we thought small business should be able to step up and be a part of the solution. and we are committed to finding small business owners to stand with us to go forward in this movement. >> i want to look at some of the latest figures here on youth unemployment specifically. the unemployment rate right now for 16 to 19-year-olds in america, 19.2%.
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for 20 to 24-year-olds, 11.1%. the national rate, somewhere around 6.3%. nearly 6 million young americans between the ages of 16 and 24 are out of school and are out of work. the obama administration's efforts to help including small business tax cuts, job training programs as well. what else do we need to be doing in this country to help young people find jobs? >> well, the program that we started, we started a commitment forum for small business owners. and what we want to be a part of is we want to increase the demand side. we feel the supply is abundant as you mentioned before. there's over 6 million youth that are both out of school and unemployed. out of school meaning they're trained, educated and ready to go. but what we have to do is create that supply side, that demand-decide increase to be able to say, we have young people ready to go. we want to put them in places of
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employment and places where they're able to succeed. we feel small business owners have a unique opportunity to be able to provide those opportunities in ways that other organizations aren't able to. we want small business to be a part of the solution. >> thank you. good luck to you. >> thank you very much. boston police are investigating after more than 80 people required medical treatment during a concert. that tops our look at stories around the "news nation" on this thursday. it happened during a show headlined by superstar swedish deejay at td garden arena last night. many folks were treated for dehydration. police suspect that drugs and alcohol were also likely factors. about 36 people had to be taken to local hospitals while others were treated there at the scene. none of the patients were believed to be in serious condition. just as general motors is facing even more uncertainty with its vehicles, ceo marry
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barra is doing more damage control today. she sat down with matt lauer this morning on "today" and talked about the massive recall. >> we failed our customers. we failed them with these vehicles. the criminal aspect of it, i think that's for the courts to decide. i've taken action and the people that i don't think should be a part of the company aren't. >> the company ordered dealers yesterday to stop selling its number one car, the chevy cruz. gm says it is working with the supplier of the defective car to identify all the vehicles that may be affected. and check this out. a frighteningly close call for a california family caught in the middle of a police shootout. l.a. county deputies were following a homicide suspect when the suspect got out and opened fire. a man who was driving with his son and his pregnant wife caught
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in the intersection during the standoff. used his cell phone to film it. the family was not harmed. the suspect was eventually killed by deputies at the scene. right now, fans are getting ready for the kickoff of the epic match between team usa and germany just minutes from now. but since the match is in the middle of the workday, do you think that today should be declared a national holiday? lots of folks in the control room right now say, yes. so does a white house petition. it's our "news nation" gut check. hey there can i help you? shhhhhh (whispering) sorry (whispering) hi, uh we need a new family plan. (whispering) how about 10 gigs f data to share and unlimited talk and text. (whispering) oh ten gigs sounds pretty good. (whispering) yeah really good. (whispering) and for a family of four, it's $160 a month (impressed, breaks whisper mode) what! get outta here! (whispering) i'm sorry are we still doing the whisper thing? or? (whispering) o! sorry! yes yes! we'll take it. at&t introduces our best-ever family pricing. for instance, a family of four gets 10 gigs of data, with unlimited talk & text,
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a subaru.ogressive. just moments from now, in case you hadn't heard, team usa set to take the field for the match against germany. if the last match is any indication, the u.s. game against portugal drew a record 25 million viewers. that's about 1 in 11 households.
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it's also more than the nba finals and the world series. should the united states make a run in this world cup you can expect those numbers to grow even more. few people know the phenomenon that is the world cup as well as this guy. "new york times" sports righter george vessi has been covering it for years. you were 12. he chronicles it all in his new book "eight world cups my journey through the beauty and carc side of soccer." what is the dark side? >> the dark side is fifa and the way fifa has let things get out of the way with the votes for qatar in 2022. the bribes that have been taken. the number of top fifa executives who have been vanished, day peered in the last few years. people that used to snoot at us and tell us don't ask questions. suddenly left under terrible cloud of taking bribes, giving bribes. >> corruption?
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rampid corruption? >> yes. >> he's not been found guilty or necessarily charged with anything, but a high judge in germany called his regime clumsy. not the kind of thing you want to hear when you burking for a nobel prize or something like that. >> when you started covering the world cup in '82, were you a big fan then? >> oh, yeah. i had played it terribly in high school. i'd seen a great documentinary the '60s about the england/west germany final. i loved the sport but the world cup is a different sport. the level of football being played is a different sport. and just being there was nothing like i'd seen with the aging cosmos in new york. >> what is different about this particular world cup in brazil compared to the eight others, the seven others you've covered. >> first of all, the previous eight, i never saw political demonstrations like the ones in brazil in the last year. good, smart people in brazil identifying that their bus fares were going up because they were building stadiums for visitors
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that their neighborhoods, their hillside homes were being pushed away so they could make parking lots for stadiums. they began to resent this politically. i never saw those kinds of demonstrations before. >> that is one aspect of this story that's not been adequately covered. the fact that the majority of folks in that country, around that stadium, live in abject poverty. >> absolutely. and close by stadiums. all of a sudden, their parents -- the players are fine but their parents can't cross the street to get to a neighborhood grocery store because somebody has put up barricades for the visitors, for the guests who will go away, take the money, go somewhere else and leaving brazil not necessarily any better than it was before. >> one of the things that always fascinates me every four years there's always this conversation that this is going to be the cup that makes soccer wildly popular in america. yahoo! columnist rick newman argues despite world cup fever, soccer is never going to be big
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business in this country. here's the quote. pro socker is barely profitable and the economics of soccer impede its growth in the united states. a typical nfl team is worth about 17 times as much as an mls team. a major league baseball team, eight times as much and an nba team, six times as much. those are pretty grim prospects. >> i don't think that's the right measure. i think you can't compare mls with the other team sports, baseball, football, particularly, because you have to compare the teams in europe. i was once with the football giants playing in wembley and they went over there working out at chelsea. someone said who is that guy watching our practice? it was john terry. the chelsea captain. he makes millions of dollars. the giants were impressed. the chelsea, english teams, spanish teams, they make big money. otherwise the owners of the red sox would not be investing in liverpool. so there's money out there. >> really quickly, how much of a
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shot do we have? >> i don't think much. >> oh, no. >> in this match today, i pick germany to win. i'm sticking with them to win the tournament. >> thank you for your time, sir. today's game, the topic of our "news nation" gut check. there's a petition up at white house.gov to make today a national holiday so that everyone can watch the game. the person who started it says lots of americans won't get to see the game because it's in the middle of the day so we should be given the day off instead of having to sneak out for a long lunch, refreshing browsers or calling in sick with about five minutes to go before the game, the petition has only gotten a little more than 4,000 signatures. it needs 100,000 to get a response from the white house. what does your gut tell you? do you think that today should be declared a national holiday. go to newsnation.msnbc.com to cast your vote. take a look at what "news nation" is saying about yesterday's gut check.
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you remember this one. a man who has seven children with six women is agreeing to get a vasectomy to reduce his prison term in a child endangerment case. we asked if a vasectomy should be part of a plea deal. 58% said yes. just 42% said no. and that is going to do it for "news nation." tomorrow here, i'll talk live to the police chief from south carolina, crystal moore, who says that she lost her job because she's gay and how the community came together to change that town's laws. i'll talk to her tomorrow. up next, though, andrea mitchell reports. 2 diabetes affects millions of us. and for many, it's a struggle to keep your a1c down. so imagine -- what if there was a new class of medicine that works differently to lower blood sugar? imagine...loving your numbers. introducing once-daily invokana®. it's the first of a new kind of prescription medicine that's used along with diet and exercise to lower blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes.
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eiffel asks the big question about running for president. >> well, you have to be a little bit crazy to run for president. let me just put it like that. good way to put it. and go team usa. don't worry, world cup fans. no need to turn the channel. we'll have all the latest action right here. >> i believe that we will win! i believe that we will win! and a very good day to you. i'm kristen welker in washington in for andrea mitchell where we begin with breaking news at the supreme court. two more pivotal and unanimous rulings from the justices this morning. one restricting the power of president obama and his successors to make recess appointments. the other limiting tig

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