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israel striking back at hamas blaming them for the death of three teenagers. >> in the words of prime minister netanyahu, hamas will pay. i take executive action only when we have a serious problem. >> now once again he's going to try to executive power the way. >> yes, the same executive action that which speaker boehner is threatening a lawsuit. we call bill the crust master because his pies, i don't know what he does. whether he puts crack in them or -- >> no, he doesn't. there's no crack in our pies. is the world hearing the voice of the man that some are calling the next osama bin laden? that man is isis leader and just moments ago a new audio recording sounding very much like him rallies the mujahadine saying take up arms, take up
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arms o soldiers of the islamic state and fight, fight! joining me now, nbc news chief correspondent richard engel of baghdad and andrew linkman, analyst and spent over 30 years at the cia working on some of the issues, ro del moladu and also david anvela president of go pac. thank you all for coming. richard, let's start with the recording. does this give us new information? >> it doesn't give us much new information but i think it gives us a characterization of the organization. baghdadi doesn't consider himself the leader of isis anymore. he considers himself the caliph leading a caliphate and reaching out for organizations across the world, muslim original saiss, individuals to wear allegiance to him.
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it was almost like the state of the union address, declared his empire and now he's calling on subjects to join him. so i think more than looking for tactical implications in this about what it means and where isis could attack or how it's going to conduct itself, it is more of an indication he sees himself as a new caliph, not just somebody succeeding osama bin laden but mohammed and omar and the 7th century caliphs establishing islam. >> that's a big step because, of course, we have seen in recent days the declaration of the caliphate but not an individual to claim credit and the statement as you're saying now seems to be a step in that direction. you talked about not deriving too much tactically from the audio but what's in the news is a lot of pretty troubling tactical information about their capacity potentially to strike
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the united states. what is your latest reporting on that? do you see the new reports of bomb making capacity, new reports of more fighters with western passports as credible? >> yeah. i don't think it's all new. it's just escalating. we have been following this group isis for about two years now as it got stronger and stronger in syria, had a foothold here in iraq. but then, just over the last several weeks, it has grown exponentially because of the captured weapons, because of its success. there is nothing more seductive than success. and this group is really capitalizing on the territorial gains it's managed to achieve. getting more recruits, getting more money. generally these organizations are weak or one of the weaknesses of these organizations is that they're dependent on funding from the outside.
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when you're dependent on funding from sponsors you are beholden to sponsors. they're not beholden to sponsors but taking money from banks, stores, some extortion. not as much as you would expect. so, it is a much more powerful organization than it was even a few weeks ago andrew, do you want to weigh in on that question of where the money is flowing in from? how much is remittance communities around the world this believe in the cause or the takings from some of their plundering as richard was telling us about? >> right. i think richard has it just about right, and in fact, it makes the group less susceptible to external pressures. i mean, it has for a long time and this dates back to aqi dates and zarqawi and relied on local sources, whether it was crime or bribery or kidnapping for their funding. and local sources for their weaponry. they used to receive most of their armaments and explosives
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from local sources. and i think that was a strength. it was one of the reasons why it came back so quickly and i think the three prizes that they now have taken from their conquest in iraq are money from mosul, arms from the iraqi military, and new operatives from the releases from the prisons. so they're definitely much stronger now than they were a month ago. >> andrew, there's new numbers on american public opinion on the threat and more and more people agreeing according to a new christian science monitor poll it's a big threat. 69% of americans saying the u.s. doesn't have a clear response and then from there, a lot of confusion about what solutions could work, whether to use air strikes or negotiate with insurgents. what do you think knowing the tactical capacity of isis as you do has the greatest chance of working with them? >> well, i think trying to
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estimate what the future threat of isis or isil, whatever we're calling it right now, we need to realize that right now they're focused locally, focused on syria and iraq. on consolidating gains and not losing them to the building iraqi government and shia forces that i think will inevitably pressure them in the future. that's not to say that it's not either a threat at all or won't build into a bigger threat to the united states. if they're not pushed back. if baghdadi is allowed to keep a large swath of territory between syria and iraq, elements within his group that are more anti-western, that focus on western tar gets, will have the room to plan and to recruit and they'll certainly have the resources they need to launch attacks so i think there is
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reason to be concerned. right now, it's unclear how much of a focus the west is. i think, again, as i said they're local. >> and richard, going back to the situation on the ground there in iraq, there's disarray. the parliament adjourned abruptly without compromising on new leadership for the country and international watchers say is what's necessary at this point to stabilize the situation and some are looking to chalibi. remember him? he was a snake oil salesman according to international characterizations and sold us a bill of weapons of mass destruction back in the saddam era. does that reflect how desperate people are for leadership turning back to him? >> no. i don't think it shows how desperate people are to -- that they're looking for leadership and looking for chalibi. it shows how insular the political system is here. there are just a few significant political parties, just a few
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significant political players and claibi is one of them. and they continue to look internally and to try to reshuffle the same deck to solve this problem. one of the big reasons we are in iraq right now in this situation where there is complete disenfranchisement and the sunnis really feel hostile toward the government, that they feel that the government is treating them enemies and right there's an open war between sunni areas and baghdad, increasingly a shiite city and the kurds openly talking about just leaving it all and breaking away. is because of this political system. it's the same leaders, it is the shiite leaders who don't want to open up and embrace the other groups. they're talking about maybe using chalibi as another shiite leader potentially a consensus kand date among them to take the
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reins of power but i don't think it's necessarily him. i'm following this quite closely. there's a lot of pressure on malaki to step aside and to hand it to someone else within his own coalition, within his shiite party. but it's really unclear if malaki, one, wants to do this and who he would want to hand that power to. he might want to pick his own successor so he doesn't end up in prison or facing charges and longer it takes the more unstable this country is. >> it does seem like the conversation's just in an intractable place and as you point out the same old characters again and again and also political repercussions back home and turn to the political panel on that. david, the one clear agreement amongst americans seems to be they don't want troops back in iraq. how's this new deployment of extra 300 individuals going to
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play? >> well, at a time when things continue to deteriorate in iraq, it is all the more important that our foreign policy be very clear and have no ambiguity as to what our goals are, and unfortunately, the president's policies at best are timid and fractured which if you -- msnbc even did a story last week given the disapproval of the president on foreign policy, could it cause democrats races this fall? certainly is hard for him to rally his support when people don't know what his policy even is and timid and people don't understand it. for example, when he talked about sending in combat troops, he also says in the very same breath or in the very same statement that they aren't combat troops. they're combat ready troops. and what does that mean? it is this timid and this ambiguity that doesn't allow
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americans to know where he is going and makes it hard to rally behind him. >> well look. it does mean a mark of distinction. we are not going guns blazing into battle and preparing for potential attacks but i take the point it's a hard sell xlit c politically. one thing that interested me is there's a partisan split we are seeing in the numbers back to the christian science monitor numbers just coming out. 73% of republicans agree that isis and the gains they're making in iraq right now put americans in a threatened position, potentially even on american soil. but on the other hand, 39% of democrats take that view. a big difference in opinion. rodel, why would this be a partisan issue? >> listen. i think just starting off, the president's walking a very thin line here. i think he's doing it well between trying to protect u.s. interest and not getting drawn into a long-term conflict in iraq. you know, when dave talks about wars, uses words like timid, you
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see that as a code word of drawn back into a long-term conflict in iraq and i think that's probably where you see the partisan divide as to the if i los tif i of using the might to use and stayed in iraq and that we should have troops and not just a couple hundred troops but a few thousand troops there and that we're going to be at war always with al qaeda, whether it's isis and so forth. you see more on the democratic side a nuanced approach of once again wanting to maybe find political answers to these problems. >> all right. well, thank you, richard, stay safe out. david and rodel, thank you. we'll come back to you. andrew, stick around. we'll deeper on this question of isis and in particular the extraordinary recruiting capacity they're showing. how are they getting the foreign fighters? well, we're going to take you inside one of the most and
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we have brothers from bangladesh, from iraq, from cambodia, australia, uk. >> fighters from all over the world is a quote from the video, as well. and that is what makes isis so dangerous and so hard to predict right now. this flood of young recruits from way across borders. not just in the region of turmoil right now. in the eye of the storm in iraq and syria. one of the biggest and most surprising sources is tunisia. remember how hopeful we are when the young people would rise up?
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2,400 of them waging jihad in syria. for groups like isis. through our partnership with the data mining firm, we take you inside one journey to jihad. >> translator: my name is ajmi amrouni i live in a town that attracts many tourists from the gloek, italy, france, spain, america. we have gorgeous girls. hotels are pure luxury. >> we've been monitoring the activity of jihadi fighters in
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syria and found that many of them coming from the tourist beach town sousse, tunisia. many of them are crossing the border to iraq. >> translator: my brother mohammed is 17 years old. he's had his brainwashed. this is mine and my brother's room. this is the last picture of him before going to syria. he was always surfing the internet. i suppose this is where he started thinking seriously about going to syria. there are several websites sharing videos about jihad. >> your life is jihad. i know by a lot this is the land of jihad and the land of living.
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>> recruitment happens at every school, right? >> yeah. every school. almost all around the country.
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>> i heard that the recruiters who recruit boys to go to syria get paid quite a bit of money. have you heard that? how do you feel about that?
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>> translator: i want to tell my brother that he made a mistake. he's sacrificing a bright future. all your friends and family are hoping for your return. we won't blame you. we will just cherish you more than we ever did. >> thanks to our partners for that eye-opening report. andrew liepman is back with us. tell us, you know, we couldn't independently confirm the account of families receiving up to $18,000 per recruitment. sorry, the recruiters receive the money for getting these
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teenagers over to the cause. are you familiar with that level of resources being poured into the recruitment drives? >> you know, it's usually not the money that attracts the recruits but the magnet of excitement and adventure and belonging and respect. i suspect the recruiters do get some money. i suspect the $18,000 per recruit is exaggerated. perhaps to entice more recruits. >> but the spirit of comradery and community and being part of a cause resonates with the young people, in particular. >> that's right. and before the break, i think richard mentioned that there's nothing like success to breed further success. and, you know, going back to the days of afghanistan, there's always been one spot that is -- has been the target of most of the young men who are seeking
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adventure an excitement. it went from afghanistan, iraq in the early years to somalia or yemen. now it's clearly syria. and it combines, you know, any number of factor that is are attracting these people. not just the possibility of jihad, but infidels and the shia so it's really a very attractive area for kids to go to. >> and a really difficult surge in enthusiasm and belief in the cause for the rest of the world to confront. thank you for your insights on this. >> sure, thanks. coming up on today's show, belgium, of course, known for waffles, known for chocolate and beer and now team usa on a lighter note, wants to make sure it's known for something else. losing at football. yep. we are talking about the world cup and today's big game later on the show. if you have moderae rheumatoid arthritis, like me, and you're talking to your rheumatologist about a biologic... this is humira.
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don't ask for a shot at a bar in georgia today. it's because today is the day that that state's so-called guns everywhere law takes effect. that's the safe carrie protection act to allow guns in bars because the best way to ensure gun safety to give them to drunk people. you can also extend to churches, schools, airports even libraries. many establishments are confused about how it's going to be enforced, something georgia courts may have to clarify and good thing that courts are ramping up security and anticipation of the law taking
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effect. let's hope they don't need me. joining reverend doctor rafiak. thank you for coming back on the program, sir. reverend -- >> thank you so much, ronan. >> appreciate it. you have taken a stand on this issue. we wanted to get your take again. it allows religious leaders to opt in to allowing guns in the churches and other places of worship. what are you telling the members of your congregation in anticipation of the law going into effect? >> well, let me be very clear at the out set. we did ask for this law. i know colleagues across denominations, across religious traditions, imams and rabbis, not on the agenda of a faith community. this is the gun lobby agenda foisted on the religious community and created quite frankly a great deal of confusion. there are pastors wondering whether or not to post a sign to make it clear that guns are not allowed in their sanctuary. technically, churches are
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allowed to opt in so technically you're not required to post a sign but i can tell you there's a great deal of confusion of faith leaders and among law enforcement members that i've talked to who are not sure about this law. this is a kind of confusion that this is created. churches have to opt in. bars have to opt out. and all of this is a very dangerous and extreme experiment done at the cost and risk of ordinary citizens. >> look, similarly, a group of librarians in georgia got together, tried to hash out how to respond to the law. there was a lot of negative reaction as we have seen in the faith community and from yourself in that community and they came out with a similar outcome and confused. not sure what will happen when someone walks into a library and puts their gun on the desk. we don't know how that plays out yet, to tell that guy not to do that. >> so one interesting thing is there's also been some response of the faith-based community on the other side of the aisle is
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some pastors saying, look, this is a good thing. people can worship without the 2nd amendment rights impinged upon. one man said in march when he testified in support of this law. take a listen. >> georgia should not deny its citizens who happen to be church attenders the 2nd amendment rights and all aware of tragedy that is have occurred in churches when someone came in and did unspeakable harm to the defenseless persons present. i believe this can be prevented. >> is there any credence to that point of view? >> ronan, that is clearly the minority view. 59% of georgians are opposed to this law. it passed because the people who vote on this kind of thing, one issue voters, most georgia citizens are going to work every day. they're not aware of what's in this law. this is not an abstract theory for us. the home church of martin luther
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king jr. people know that dr. king was a victim of gun violence. not enough people know in 1974 matter of fact, 40 years ago yesterday, alberta williams king, the mother of the martin luther king jr. was shot and killed in our sanctuary while playing and singing the lord's prayer at the organ and while we mourn her loss and another deacon in our church that day, one can only imagine what would have happened had 25 or 30 people stood up with guns, the kind of mayhem that would have ensued in that situation. that young man had access to a gun he did not have the access he needed to mental health care. 40 years later, that situation is worse across our country. particularly in states like georgia, georgia has the highest number of uninsured individuals in our state. because we refused to accept the
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medicaid expansion and so we have got access to guns. not enough access to health care. it's a very dangerous situation. it's not one that faith leaders have asked for. it comes compliments of the gun lobby and politicians who respond at their behest. >> reverend, that is such an ugly history of gun violence in your own place of worship. i know a lot of people watching want to never, ever see that happen again. i know your stand may recollects a difference. appreciate your being here. >> thank you so much. well, switching gears in a big way, coming up, bring on the belgians. do or die for u.s. soccer. teams in brazil and facing off against one of the biggest foes, the question is how do you make fun of belgians? wait. i think this question's been tackled rather famously before. >> the winner was undoubtedly from miserable fat belgium [ bleep ].
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our great nation confronts a ruthless international foe today. coordinated attackers set on achieving the goals. belgium! yes, team usa faces belgium this afternoon. 4:00 p.m. eastern time. americans are actually watching. america's matches this month among the most watched events nonfootball in espn's history. this is the site of a hot viewing party in washington, d.c. people are filing in. and head lines are blairing accordingly finally this time football arrived in america. or has it? we haven't yet seen in numbers outside of a world cup season. major league soccer averaged 174,000 viewers. will interest continue after the game ends? how much of that relies on team usa actually winning? joining us now, bruce miller,
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retired professional player on the 1990 world cup team and in the national soccer hall of fame and runs a soccer camp for kids in maryland. also ron simulcac and luke russe russert. appreciate you all being here. wow. you are really showing spirit, luke. luke takes this very, very seriously. >> i love america, ronan. can't apologize for this. >> look, look. i love america, too. there are some who disagree with the characterization of your pride in the sport being about loving america. ann coulter the beloved conservative fire brand. can we say beloved? let's go with beloved. she said america's national past time is hating soccer and, quote, any growing interest in soccer can only be a sign of the nation's moral decay. oh, ann, never change. luke, how do you respond to that? >> well, i saw recently that ann coulter defending the column from paris, france. i'm sure today over in belgium enjoying the waffles because that was an anti-american column
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if i ever read one. part of what makes america great is we're a large melter pot. that's what soccer is about. when i played high school football, i had a coach that said the communists brought soccer to america to teach men to stand up and not get in the crouching position. i'll tell you a quick little story. before i came on your program, i was having some lunch. there's latino construction workers in the sandwich shop and all talking in spanish about how excited they were for team usa's game this afternoon, root for the usa. and they couldn't be more thrilled about it. what else would you want in life? that's such a great thing that soccer brings to america and makes us more american because that's what we are, a great melting pot. >> we are about unity. >> here for america. >> the great game of international unity. i'm with you on this one. bruce, new polls show 86% of people polled, according to our latest nbc news poll, actually, rooting for team usa.
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how's that compared to level of support you saw when you played at the 1990 world cup? >> it is incredible, ronan. the education that the american fan has now, every 45-year-old guy in this country is tuned in to the premier league, his kids play soccer. the rooting interest of the participants, the players, the fathers, the people, the kids, it's amazing how and just -- it is incredible. >> i mean, i think all signs point to this being more popular than it's been before. rob, going back to the argument the rise is un-american or won't stick. an interesting thing is demographic break down of the rise in popularity. ann coulter makes this point herself saying, you know, this isn't catching on with black americans for instance. it is true that the latest pew numbers found the same thing. 67% of blacks respect following the tournament closely. on the other hand, 55% of hispanics are following it. do you think the explosion of popularity in this sport is partly due to the boom in
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america's latino population? >> no question about that. you mentioned the mls an average of 174,000 viewers a game. it's the third most popular soccer league in the united states. the first is mexican domestic league and averages way, way higher than that. in fact, they drew over 2.5 million viewers for their championship game in may. the second most popular league is the english premier league which a lot of latinos and upper income mostly americans watch and follow that. so yes there's no question that the latino population, the explosion in that is driving increased popularity of that sport. in this country. >> we'll have to see if that's a popularity that extends to generational teaching. the fathers teach their sons and generation to generation. bruce, what does it take to develop that generational will have of the game? >> we have that. every 45-year-old dad has kids,
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he played the game. his kids are playing the game. mls is building soccer specific stadiums attracting more people, selling out games. david beckham taken over a team in miami as an owner. all the things point to the growth of soccer in the united states. >> luke, you know, even the casual soccer fan knows david beckham. but it's hard for a lot of americans to name others. do you think it's a sport in need of stars to resonate with americans? >> it needs more stars and elevate the play and mls. does that occur with giving perhaps bigger contracts, figuring out how to get the premier players to the united states? you see david beckham, come here in the twilight of the career. in europe and watch those games, the premier league games or laliga, that is some great sport. i mean, it is amazing to watch those athletes, competitive. like the world cup on speed the sbooir time. to bring that to the united states, i honestly think people watch it. not the degree of football or
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anything like that. but it could compete with hockey some point with the top tier type of athletes. unfortunately, why would you come to the u.s. and not -- make thousands when you can stay in spain, have your own villa and making millions and millions of euros and having the beautiful women -- >> this is luke's life plan. >> rather play in madrid than kansas city. i don't fault them for that. >> going back to you, bruce. we have seen this sport evolve over time. do you think it needs to actually have some more changes in its rules to appeal to americans? one of the complaints you hear over and over again is americans are confused by the fact of so many games that end in ties. and that this scoring doesn't happen as quickly. do you need something with more scoring in the mix? >> i don't think so. i just think you need to educate the public a little bit. a goal is like a touchdown. a 3-1 game is 27-1 in football. doing things like that makes the
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casual fan understand more. >> people need to be educated more. rob, as we part ways on this, what are the bets coming up for the game? >> this is a game that the u.s. could absolutely win or absolutely lose. this is a toss-up game. the teams ranked similarly. low scoring game and expect not to be surprised to see extra time here. i think the u.s. has a chance. i'll call the u.s. winning this on penalty kicks. that is my prediction here. tim howard, the u.s. goalie, stepping up for big saves in penalty kicks. >> nerve wracking! >> all right. >> wow. >> we'll hold you to that. >> bring me back. flog me if i'm wrong. >> luke, thank you for showing up in full regalia. >> bruce and rob stay with us. amidst the fan fare we love, there's a big outcry happening about the safety of the sport. why some players are taking a stand and we're actually going to get into that issue with a
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cyber bullies and encourage them to navigate safely. the more you know. i -- >> i believe. >> i believe. >> i believe that -- >> i believe that. >> i believe that we -- >> i believe that we -- >> i believe that we will win. >> i believe that we will win. >> i believe that we will win. i believe that we will win! >> i don't know. do they believe we'll win? i'm really confused. those are chicago soccer fans. look, the nation is riveted hoping america goes home -- doesn't go home. takes belgium and doesn't go home at this upcoming match a couple hours from now. with this national focus on all things soccer and a lot of our kids playing it, some stars, particularly u.s. women's soccer stars, are now advocating that kids should change the way they
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play. in particular, that they shouldn't head the ball. you see some footage there of kids playing. some headbutting with the ball. they think that shouldn't happen until they're at least 14 years old. to weigh in on this controversy, i'm back with bruce murray, retired u.s. soccer hall of famer, and rob simmelkjaer of nbc sports. bruce, you've got really strong feelings about this. your soccer career actually ended as a result of a concussion, correct? >> yes, correct. i do have strong feelings about it. i think the girls are on the right track. i'm not sure about the heading the ball thing. they definitely have to do something. fifa has to mandate wearing the head gear like rugby players. there's a very simple solution. it's six ounces. it doesn't cost very much. it absorbs some of the blow from heading the ball and also the direct impacts. >> and bruce, you've also got a personal connection to this because you run a soccer camp for kids, ages 12 to 15. that's right in the age range that seems to experience the largest numbers of sports-related concussions.
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what do you do to safeguard them? >> we discourage heading the ball as much as possible. if we do head the ball, it's in a very tight, confined quarters. but i encourage all parents, youth players, go out there and try on this head gear. it's really something you should think about for your future. >> rob, it seems like we're actually seeing some action in terms of practical, maybe legislative solutions to this. 250,000 kids visit the emergency room for sports-related brain injuries every single year is the latest set of numbers. now indiana became the first state to actually require high school football coaches to take training on how to deal with concussions. do you think all of this signals that we're at a turning point in this conversation? >> there's no question about it. i mean, it started from the top in a lot of ways with what's been going on in the nfl and the conversation that's happened there around concussions. i think it's worked its way down the ranks. now you're seeing more and more
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parents, more and more coaches, more and more state athletic associations realizing that concussion awareness and protocols are simply fundamental to any sport, not just football or contact sports but sports that we think of as safer, noncontact sports. concussions are a risk in any sport where there is running, where balls are flying through the air, where there's any possibility of contact, and parents are being more aware coaches are being more aware. this is an incredibly important thing. listen, sports are important. kids need to be plague these sports. but we can't have kids having their futures adversely impacted and their mental capacities impacted long term by concussions, especially undiagnosed concussions, which are more likely to reoccur when they're not diagnosed. >> right. that 250,000 a year number of kids in the e.r. with concussive injuries are just the reported ones. that's the tip of the iceberg. and this is outside the usual issues on this show, but so many
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people on our team, particularly parents, really have those fears you're talking about. it's an interesting moment for this. we may see changes even as this sport becomes popular. bruce murray and rob simmelkjaer, thank you both of you. >> thank you. >> for this week's call to action, we want you to join in this conversation and raise awareness for this epidemic, really, at this point of kids and concussions. the cdc says the most important thing you can do is get the facts out there. there's a startling lack of research on this at this point. that needs to change. go to our website, educate yourself, your family, your school, your coach, and add your name to our list, committing to some kind of game plan on this. information is power. share this link you see on screen using #teamupforsafety. a lot of groups are joining that cause. we'll keep you posted on the results. all right. tomorrow, brandi chastain, a member of the u.s. women's team that won the 1999 world cup is going to be here to talk about her new push to prevent kids' concussions. we mentioned stars getting behind this. she's one of them. you won't want to miss her
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testimony on it. all right. that wraps things up for today's edition of "rfd." thank you for joining me. time now for "the reid report" with my colleague joy reid. joy, don't head the ball. keep your beautiful head intact. >> absolutely. my kids played soccer. my two sons played soccer for five years. those headers were always nerve racking for the parents. >> it's scary. >> it really is. people don't think about it. definitely a risk. thanks for bringing that out. okay. coming up next, the fallout from the supreme court's hobby lobby decision. how the ruling could be a huge factor in the midterm elections and impact workers at dozens of companies nationwide. also, guns, guns everywhere. the georgia law kicks in today, and we're on the ground checking out the repercussions. and world cup fever. the u.s. coach, is he working the refs before the match even begins? "the reid report" starts minutes from now. ♪ it elicits pride... ...incites envy...
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hello, everyone. i'm joy reid. this is "the reid report." today, case closed for the supreme court on hobby lobby, but has the ruling set a bad precedent? >> this was about protecting and defending the rights of all americans to run their businesses according to their deeply held convictions. >> many more companies will claim religious beliefs and some will be sincere, but others maybe not. >> once you open the door, why does that stop -- >> nobody wants to live in a country where our most deeply held convictions can be trampled by the government. >> hobby lobby's big win could have huge implications for thousands of women who don't even work there. then, israel launches air strikes aimed at hamas after the bodies of three kidnapped teens are found, making the already tense region even more volatile. and georgia's guns everywhere law kicks in today. that allows people to carry in