hello, everyone. i'm joy reid. this is "the reid report." today, case closed for the supreme court on hobby lobby, but has the ruling set a bad precedent? >> this was about protecting and defending the rights of all americans to run their businesses according to their deeply held convictions. >> many more companies will claim religious beliefs and some will be sincere, but others maybe not. >> once you open the door, why does that stop -- >> nobody wants to live in a country where our most deeply held convictions can be trampled by the government. >> hobby lobby's big win could have huge implications for thousands of women who don't even work there. then, israel launches air strikes aimed at hamas after the bodies of three kidnapped teens are found, making the already tense region even more volatile. and georgia's guns everywhere law kicks in today. that allows people to carry in

churches, schools, and even in bars. what could go wrong? first, there's a lot more talk in the wake of the hobby lobby ruling by the supreme court and what it means for you and for the midterm elections. indeed, just hours after the ruling, both democrats and republicans seized on the decision to energize their base. for democrats who are looking to get women to the polls for their candidates in november, hobby lobby could be just the rallying cry they've been looking for. back in march, an nbc "wall street journal" poll found that while 48% of men said employers should have the right to not provide birth control in their health plans on religious grounds, only 35% of women agreed. and of course, women's votes will also be key in 2016 when presumably hillary clinton will be running for president. last night the former secretary of state blasted the ruling as a slippery slope. >> i think there should be a real outcry against this kind of decision, and there will be many more now. look, many more companies will claim religious beliefs and some

will be sincere, but others maybe not. and we're going to see this one insurable service cut out for many, many women. >> indeed as we learn more from the court's 49-paged ruling, it turns out there are still a lot more questions than there are answers. for instance, just how many people could it impact? the court's ruling applies only to closely held corporations. defined by the irs as having more than 50% of its outstanding stock value owned by five or fewer individuals. turns out that takes in about 90% of the businesses in this country. somewhere around 52% of the nation's work force. so while the argument is being made that 85% of corporations already provided contraception coverage before obamacare, the fact remains that female employees at hobby lobby have had their access to contraceptive limited. and then there are the women who

work for around 44 for-profit corporations and more than 40 nonprofits who have already filed suit against the aca, making hobby lobby's exemption argument. their coverage could be in jeopardy too. so the question is, when we get right down to it, is this ruling really as narrow as justice samuel alito says it is? joining me now, tom goldstein and amanda marcot, a contributor for slate. amanda, since you're sitting here with me, i want to go to you first. you write in your piece that's up today on slate, there might be a short-lived victory on the right over this hobby lobby decision until it sinks in. then insured women will continue to have their contraceptives covered by the insurance they've paid for regardless of their boss' opinions on the matter. explain. >> okay. well, under the exemption that the hhs created for religiously affiliated nonprofits, what happens is if a religiously affiliated nonprofit wants to not provide contraception in their health care plans, what's

the -- the government says they have to fill out a form or write a letter saying they don't want to do it. then the insurance company will turn around and offer them the benefit directly, not through their employer. so they get it one way or another. it's just through a little paperwork and the employer is not the person paying for it. i assume, though i don't know for certain yet, that the hhs is probably going to just expand that exemption to cover any corporations that don't want to cover it. >> and tom, to that point, we had lawrence tribe on yesterday from harvard law school. he made a similar point. i want to play you what he had to say and see if you agree that sort of backs up what amanda was just saying. >> the court was not elevating corporations above actual human beings. it was interpreting an act of congress. what the court said is that as long as the government can provide the contraception at public expense, there is no need to burden the religious beliefs

of closely held corporations whose owners basically operate the business. that's not as radical a decision as some people think. >> so tom, that argument means that as long as there's some alternate means for women to get access to contraception that doesn't cost them any more, is this decision really as radical as a lot of people are portraying it as? >> well, that is a solution for the question of contraception care and other kinds of insurance that maybe some employer doesn't want to provide. but the broader implications of the decision don't really involve insurance. there are open questions now whether a business can say, we don't want to provide services to a particular kind of person. frens, homosexuals, or don't want to have gay employees. that's going to be the next generation of challenges. i think those will probably lose, but they don't have a solution like having insurance paid for by the government. >> yeah, and i think that really gets to the broader thing that people are worried about, amanda. it's not that women cannot get birth control now because of the

hobby lobby decision, as you just said, as lawrence tribe said, as tom said. there can be other ways to get at it. but whether or not the decision itself actually opens the door to basically any religious issue that an employer might have that they want to impose on their employees. let me read you a little from an msnbc.com article. it says that ginsburg's defense, that you could say, well, i'm not for blood transfusions, i'm not for lots of different things because of my religion, and she said it potentially opens the door for challenges on those. in this article, this is essentially the way it could backfire. ginsburg's dissent calls it a startling breadth by stating the opinion is much broader than the majority claims it to be. she may be providing lower court judges with a stronger foundation to provide more religious exemptions in the future. he cites other cases in which the dissent was actually cited in striking down laws against gay marriage, by citing the dissent, ironically, by scalia. you've had states and judges say, well, the dissent says this law was really broad, and it can

really strike down gay marriage laws. do you see a risk of that from this decision? >> absolutely. especially since alito was kind of cagey in the original decision about whether or not this could be expanded. he basically said, sure, this -- paraphrasing, sure, this decision only addresses contraception and we're not talking about the rest of things, but it wasn't like he completely excluded the option either. >> right. and that's the other thing, tom. even in alito's defense of this as a narrow decision, he said that it basically does not cover things outside of these particular types of contraception, but is there anything in the law that actually limits the decision's applicability? >> probably so. it's not surprising. the justices often like to say, look, we're not deciding a question that's not in front of us. but the key to this decision under the law that the supreme court was applying was that there was another way out, that the administration did have a way of providing this contraception care. and it's very likely in a later case the court will say, well, when it comes to discriminating against homosexual customers or employees, for example, there is

no other way out, and therefore you don't get a religious exemption. that's very likely how those cases would be resolved. but it's going to employ a lot of lawyers in the meantime. >> yeah, absolutely. the other point you made that was really interesting, amanda, is essentially the decision, because they tried to argue that it's narrow, sort of exposed the court, as you said, of sex-obsessed busy bodies. they only want to focus on contraceptives and the unprotected sex they imply, but that essentially the court is saying, but you as a religious person can't make a judgment on anything else your employees are doing. >> yeah, and it was interesting that judge alito singled out vaccinations and blood transfusions as two kinds of health care that somebody in theory could protest but he doesn't think this decision could cover. those are, in fact, medical conditions or medical things that a lot of religious people are against. there are some religions against vaccinations. and yet, i think he felt -- he seemed to think that the religious claims about sexuality

have more substance. >> and that is strange. so i guess maybe i'm just skeptical of any attempt by the court to say, we're doing it but just for this one little narrow thing. and please, don't apply this decision to anything else in the world. because the fact is, isn't it true, tom, that somebody who has a deeply held religious conviction that includes contraception and includes blood transfusions is being told that their deeply held convictions only apply to the contraceptives but they have to ignore those very same conditions if the insurance policy covers blood transfusions. that doesn't really make sense to me. >> actually, i don't think that's quite how it works. the supreme court said, we're not going to be in the business of saying, this is a sincere belief, that's not a sincere belief. they were very focused on what's the solution if we were to give you an exemption. here they have the solution of paying for the contraception care through the government. when it comes to whether somebody can get a blood transfusion, there isn't a substitute for blood. i think the supreme court will

say, there's no other narrowly tailored, to use the legal phrase, way to solve the problem that the government is attacking. >> i think that'll make a lot of people feel better. i appreciate the clarification. tom goldstein and amanda marcot, thank you both for being here. up next, israel launches air strikes against hamas after the bodies of three kidnapped teens are found, and it's making a bad situation in the middle east even worse. if you had chickenpox, the shingles virus is already inside you. you should know that 1 in 3 people will get shingles in their lifetime.

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israel is poised to strike hamas just as president obama sends more troops to baghdad in a middle east that's growing more volatile by the day. the israeli cabinet meets again today to determine how to

respond to the discovery of three missing teens. the decision on how to respond to hamas, which denies responsibility to the kidnapping, comes after air strikes in gaza today in retaliation for what israel says were mistime strikes launched from that part of palestinian territory. i'm joined by a columnist and senior diplomatic correspondent. thank you so much for being here. let's start with the israeli response in bombing the gaza strip over these kidnappings, which of course took place in the west bank, not in gaza. that is an escalation on an already volatile situation. what do you think would be the outcome in there were sort of full-on air strikes and military intervention in gaza? >> it will help deteriorate the situation as a whole in the region. i mean, for the moment, the region is not paying much attention to the palestinian issue, so there is no big emotional outburst about the

palestinian issue. but should there be a full engagement with israel, things will change. the focus will be back on the palestinian issue. and if the revenge of israel takes shape in the sense that they are saying, more settlements, that is going to further complicate any effort to make progress on the palestinian/israeli issue. so first of all, let me start with the fact that one has to condemn the killing of teenagers by whoever has done it. secondly, hamas has not claimed responsibility. thirdly, the circumstances of the killing are still not established. there should be an investigation. fourth, i think calm down before one uses this terrible, terrible incident as a pretext to have settlements that are going to escalate further and further. >> and we just put the map up of that region so people can really sort of see it. these teenagers were kidnapped in the west bank, which if you look on that map is the larger red part of that map.

the bombings took place in gaza, where hamas is the controlling authority. you can see the palestinian territory is discontiguous. they're two separate pieces. the part that hamas controls is the smaller part, gaza. how active is hamas in the other part of the palestinian territory in the west bank? >> hamas is now, as you know, partner in the government. this is something that does not please the israeli government. some israelis welcome the fact that hamas is party now with the palestinian authorities so that there will be a possibility to sort of neutralize them and become partner in establishing th israelis don't want to see it, so the jump on hamas is very quick. again, hamas, as you said, is in gaza. it's not predominant in the west bank. of course, the israelis are accusing hamas, or some israelis are accusing hamas of being behind these horrible acts, but

there are other organizations that claim that they were behind it. it's a very complicated situation. again, facts are facts. unfortunately, the killing took place. condemnable. facts are facts. this should not be an escalation. i think the strikes will be contained. i don't think gaza authorities will strike back with rockets. i don't think this is an all-out war between israelis and hamas. i think it's an escalation that will be contained for the time being. the bigger escalation is taking place somewhere else, as you know. >> indeed. this all takes place at a time when you have this nightmare in iraq, as this group isis, a group of sunni extremists, have made incursions into syria as well as into part of iraq. but you also have a lot of -- in israel, a comparison being made between isis, this extremist group, and hamas, which is also

a sunni group. >> which is nonsense. >> which is also a sunni group. >> which is nonsense, actually. total nonsense. isis has emerged recently. isis in iraq is different from isis in syria. isis in syria is seen by some to be supported or created by the regime in syria, the regime of bashar al assad. so go figure they were encouraged and ordered to say we told you it's not about not responding to our people. you know, they want to change the subject from bombing their own people and just swipe that. sort of like reduce it to say, we're fighting terrorism. so put that on the side. and in terms of isis in iraq, it's a very big mistake, huge mistake to just say what's happening in iraq is only about isis. isis is a terrorist

organization, extremist -- unprecedented extremism. but there was also an uprising, sunni uprising in iraq against what the nuri al maliki government has been doing, which has not been inclusive. even the united states has been trying to see to it if there is any chance to get the maliki prime minister out of the picture. but i guess iran has not said yes to that yet. >> and it's just to make things even more complicated, you had iran, which used to fund hamas, but hamas opposed the assad regime in syria. you still have the sunni-shia thing playing out. >> but in terms of iraq, it was the george w. bush war in iraq that gave iraq to iran practically. so the iranian influence in iraq has been tremendous. and iranians, of course, again, to make it more complicated, we have the moderates led by

president rouhani, and we have the extremists led by the revolutionary guards. and i think the friction between them continues. i would say president obama and president rouhani would like maliki out. whereas, the leader of the revolutionary guards, together with maliki and the extremists saying, no way, he's staying. that's not going to happen. we have a new reality that other sunni organizations are working alongside isis. but let's not reduce the whole thing to isis. i think they will turn against isis if there's a political settlement in baghdad. >> indeed. it is a conflagration that's never ending. extremely complicated. >> i hope i helped a little bit. >> absolutely. thank you so much for being here. appreciate it. >> thank you. pleasure. >> okay. and we also have an alert to pass along to you. these are some live pictures of

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without penalty. today i will put into law a gun bill that heralds self-defense, personal liberties, and public safety. >> public safety indeed. georgia governor nathan deal's comments as he signed the law critics call the most extreme gun bill in america. sound familiar? in fact, they sound a lot like the nra chief wayne lapierre's good guys with guns argument. that's pretty much the mantra for gun rights advocates in georgia today. the safe carry protection act goes into effect today. as we cover repeatedly on this program, we know how successful good guys with guns have been. now under georgia law, you can add alcohol to that mix. the law also allows gun owners to pack heat in some schools, churches, libraries, and government buildings. because, you know, america. goldie taylor is an msnbc contributor and jason johnson is a professor of political science

and politics editor at "the source" magazine. they both join us from atlanta. >> goldie, what's the advanced word from georgians you're talking to on whether they're excited or worried about the law? >> well, the advanced word is that everybody is confused about its implementation. you know, who is the onus on? is it on the church to say, go guns allowed in the sanctuary? there's about a $100 fine. is the onus on the bar owner, on a nightclub owner if you bring a gun into their establishment when they have clearly said, we don't want guns on our private property? there's a bit of confusion. if you call restaurants or bars, and even if you call churches, they're very unclear about its implementation. they're very unclear about how they would be protected. so right now the early word is that no people are skittish, but

very, very confused about the implementation. >> jason, there's a piece in the georgia ledger inquirer that say even lawmakers who voted for the law don't necessarily believe it serves any legitimate constitutional purpose or a protect call purpose. part of it reads, georgia's new gun law is an expensive and breathtakingly irresponsible act of political backlash theater that enables those who supported it for the worst reason there is, because they were knee-knocking scared not to. meaning basically people were afraid of the nra but don't necessarily know what its purpose is. >> yeah, it's already costing local governments money as they have to put in screeners. most people don't knowsly know what the larger implications are. look, i'm going to a world cup game later. there's going to be a bar there. if belgium wins, who knows, there could be a shootout because now you can walk into a bar with a gun if you want to. these are the kinds of practical things that most citizens in georgia, including law

enforcement, said would be problems if this law ended up being implemtd. again, you have people afraid because there's outside money that can come in. everyone's just crossing their fingers that this doesn't end up causing some sort of tragedy a couple weeks or months down the road. >> and i think that's the thing that is the most sort of curious. they did decide to allow bars to be on the menu of places where you could carry because what could go wrong? people are just drinking. that's the part that seems nonsensical. is there any buyer's remorse you're hearing, even among lawmake lawmakers, that they voted this thing through and let the bars be in it? >> i think the most unfortunate part about this is the notion you're going to mix liquor with guns. truth of the matter is my father was murder outside of a nightclub where he worked. back in 1973. under this law, the shooter would not have had to go to the car to get their gun. they could have shot him behind the bar. to say we're going to make this kind of mixture on this platform is outrageous. target stores, they allow guns into their restaurants.

waffle houses, they allow guns into their restaurants. i don't want to shop a place, don't want to attend church and praise god in a place, i don't want to go to a bar, nightclub, i don't want to go into a school, i don't even want to go into a public library where guns are permitted. what about my liberty not to be around someone else's gun? so i think this law is extremism at its worst, and it wasn't necessarily nra that pushed this. it was georgia carry. it was the gun runners of georgia who pushed this legislation. but republicans didn't do it by themselves. did you look across the aisle, you'll find that there was some democrats who came from swing areas of the state and some of them from not-so-swing areas of the state who also voted in favor of this legislation. jason carter, who is running for governor against this current governor, also voted in favor of expanding the right to carry in all of these public places. >> yeah, and jason, this isn't benign. we're not talking about a state that's got a benign number of gun deaths. center for american progress crunched the numbers. from 2001 to 2010, more than

twice as many people were kill by gun violence in georgia than were killed in iraq and afghanistan in those wars. this is a state that has a bit of a problem. if you look at the south overall, the gun policy center has done that and found that southern and western states that have fewer gun restrictions have higher gun death rates. it's not rocket science to figure out that more guns means more gun deaths. but is there any voice on the other side in georgia? it does seem like the state is essentially opening the doors because it's also a stand your ground state, right? >> right. well, the problem is the voices that we should be hearing, they should be coming from congressional candidates. they should be coming from gubernatorial candidates. but it's the silly season. they're all concerned about getting elected. they're all concerned about swing voters. they're all concerned about the gun lobby in this particular state. so regular people's legitimate day-to-day concerns are being ignored in favor of what seems to be politically expedient right now. this is one thing that i think is really important to think about consequences lek trorlly and for regular people's lives. one of the stipulations is you

can come within 150 feet of a voting place as long as you tell one of the voting monitors you happen to have a gun with you. can you imagine what kind of voter intimidation could go on if you could send groups of people to stand near a polling place and say, we happen to have a gun, or people who can walk near schools and ride around the distance who happen to have weapons? not enough people in power are standing up to it. >> or be in church knowing that people can be armed with you in church. it's really breathtaking. goldie, has there been any backlash among business owners? you mentioned they're not clear whether they can even have the right to say, no, i don't want you with your gun in my bar. has there been any outcry from business owners or church leaders about the law? >> business owners have been on record against this. no churches came together to say they did want it. i'll tell you who else is against it. law enforcement fought against this. the tsa fought against this. there were pass tors here in atlanta, the same at moral monday who fought against this.

so it really did not seem to matter to this georgia legislature what the people really said. if you poll this state, you're going to find the vast majority of georgians do not want this law, but it is signed into law because we had a group of lobbyists with a lot of money and power under our gold dome who got it pushed through. whether the consequences of this will be tragic really remains to be seen. i'm not one of those people who believes that more guns means more safety. >> it'll be interesting to see how tourism responds to this now that georgia is basically a guns everywhere state. goldie taylor, jason johnson. thank you both for being here. all right. world cup fever has the united states in a frenzy, but why aren't we soccer fans year round? coming up, we'll talk to the goalkeeper from the women's team who helped her team to victory in 1999. first, an update on a big storm that's threat tong put a damper on fourth of july plans for millions of americans. america's tropical storm arthur is spinning off the coast of florida right now. computer models show it's likely climbing up the east coast and

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citracal maximum. calcium citrate plus d. highly soluble, easily absorbed. world cup fever across the globe. an your left, a watch party in chicago. in the middle, folks in new york city. and on the right, brazil. in just over an hour, the u.s. men's world cup team will try to knock out a very talented belgian team for a chance to move on to the quarterfinals for the first time in 12 years. perhaps just as importantly, the growing popularity of the world cup in this country demonstrates something the game's detractors may not appreciate. a changing american demographic. brianna skur ri was the starting goalkeeper for the u.s. women's national soccer team who won the world cup in 1999. and dave ziron.

brianna, i'll start with you. this feels like a year where americans are much more into the game, despite the detractors. have you seen a palpable increase in interest in the game overall, or is it just in your mind because the u.s. is going so far? >> well, joy, thanks for having me on the show, first of all. i think the answer is twofold. i think now with social media and the u.s. men's team and women's team who have traditionally done well, now that the u.s. men's team is doing well, people are getting behind it. people are aware. people know who they're playing today and what time and they're tuning into it. so i think the growth is going to be something that remains with the sport and continues going forward. >> and i think, dave, to biana's point about social media being involved, reuters has a story up saying interactions on the world cup on facebook are the most ever. more than the super bowl and these other sports combined. more than the academy awards, winter olympic games. it really has become a social media phenomenon.

>> absolutely. and first of all, an honor to be on the show with briana scurry. a huge shero of mine. i think we've actually turned the corner away from the anti-soccer fatalism. right now, more youth play soccer in this country than every other youth sport combined. and when you couple that with the combined ratings of the mls, the mexican national league, and the english premier league, all of that together in the united states, if you combine them, the different pieces in our diverse country, if you put it all together, then what you see is a sport that absolutely now has a national following, and the world cup is only going to enhance that following in the years to come. >> we're just looking at chicago where people are getting excited about the game. to that point, briana, you have the growth of watching the games, watching the world cup up dramatically from the last world cup, particularly in cities that have had a strong growth in immigrant populations. if you look at oklahoma city,

it's up 143% in terms of the tv ratings. birmingham, alabama, up 100%. columbus, ohio, up 71% according to espn. so essentially you have cities where there is a lot of immigrant population or growing immigrant population. i know in miami where both my sons played, it's extremely popular. you think that's part of the picture? >> i do believe that's part of the picture, joy. also, what you have to understand about the world cup this year, the teams that come from the region where the u.s. comes from, which is called the concacaf region, have all done quite well. so everyone who is playing from costa rica to the united states to mexico, all these teams have done incredibly well. the people who have allegiances to those teams are tuning in, and everybody's excited about it. i think today's game is probably going to have the highest ratings of any game thus far. >> and i want to jump in on that too. yes, immigration is a part of this story, but it's not the whole story. but the immigration piece is why you're hearing a lot of people

on the right -- and i'm not going to give them any free publicity -- but saying things like, oh, anybody whose great grandparents were born in the united states isn't a fan of the world cup and that it's a sign of moral decay. they're making an appeal to whiteness and saying this is not a sport for the quote/unquote mainstream. that dog is not going to hunt. i have friends who work in the sports bars in washington, d.c. they say it's bro'ed out, if you catch my drift. my buddy who's a waiter, he said he heard someone say back in 2002, if you were watching the world cup, your bros clowned you. now if you're not watching the world cup, you're going to get clowned. >> we got to talk about the u.s.'s chances. i know people who claimed they weren't interested who are watching it now for the first time and really excited, both by how the u.s. is doing and the competition. it is truly a beautiful game, even though it's not high scoring, which is usually what it takes to be a game in the united states that's really popular. let's look at the u.s.'s

chances. if you look at the stats on the u.s. team, goals scored, us versus belgium, both four. goals given up by both teams, we've given up four, they've given up one. attacks at the ball. shots taken at the goal, 27 versus 43. our record is one win, one loss, one tie. they're 3-0. how do you rate the u.s.'s chances against this belgium team? >> joy, i appreciate your stats, and they're all great, but i'm telling you, once you get into the knockout phases, which is where we are now, all of the stats go out the window. it's all about heart. it's all about execution and emotional control. i think our guys have as good a chance as any in this game today. tim howard right now is the man to watch. if he has a fantastic game today, we'll get through. because right now what happens in this area of the play is that the goalkeepers begin to rise up or fall down. so a team can ride their goalkeeper if they're hot into the next round, and i think if

tim comes up big today, all those stats will be good for us. >> an expert goalkeeper evaluating a great goalkeeper. to you, dave, the u.s. surprised everybody against ghana. it was a win people were not expecting. the u.s. played really well against germany, right. we've done better than expected. so should people be feeling like we have a shot? we can at least tie, right? >> belgium hasn't lost in 13 straight games on the international stage, but the flip side of that is that belgium had a very easy draw coming into this. and the united states was in the deathiest group of all. >> the group of death, yes. >> by far the most deathy of all the groups of death. so i see the u.s. as being tempered by that experience. the belgium team, despite being 3-0, soccer experts are talking about them as they're not playing as a team, they haven't reached their potential. belgium was a boutique pick to win this whole thing before the world cup started. this is anything can happen land. we just saw argentina won at the last possible moment against the swiss for goodness sakes. anything can happen at this

point. >> those extra minutes have been deadly, man. >> which is why social media is so big. people are tweeting out of stress. >> exactly. i'm stressed too. okay. thank you both for being here. really appreciate it. >> thanks, joy. go usa. >> there we go. coming up, we reid between the lines on one of the men being considered to become iraq's next prime minister. what that's saying about the forgetful past and our being doomed to potentially repeat it. when it comes to good nutrition...i'm no expert. that would be my daughter -- hi dad. she's a dietitian. and back when i wasn't eating right, she got me drinking boost. it's got a great taste, and it helps give me the nutrition i was missing. helping me stay more like me. [ female announcer ] boost complete nutritional drink has 26 essential vitamins and minerals, including calcium and vitamin d to support strong bones and 10 grams of protein to help maintain muscle. all with a delicious taste. grandpa! [ female announcer ] stay strong, stay active with boost.

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remember ahmed chalabi, the exile whose family fled iraq in the '60s where he founded a failed bank and led the iraq national congress? which was created in 1992 for the express purpose of overthrowing iraqi dictator saddam hussein. between 1992 and 2004, the inc received more than $100 million from the u.s. government. they used some of that money to

hire a d.c. lobbying firm to help sell the americans on invading iraq. in 2003, they finally succeeded, thanks in part to their relationships gained through a think tank called the project for the new american century. remember them? and that included the neo-conservatives who later wound up in the bush administration. chalabi also formed a relationship with vice president dick cheney. he was a key source of information for reporters, like judith miller, then of "the new york times". when an iraqi informant living in germany told the cia that saddam hussein had weapons of mass destruction in trucks that could be moved around the country, the cia backed up that information with information from chalabi's informantds, including one who told u.s. officials that he had personally bought seven trucks to make the wmd labs on wheels. with that information, an initially skeptical secretary of state colin powell went to the

united nations and said iraq had, wait for it, at least seven mobile weapons trucks. >> ladies and gentlemen, these are sophisticated facilities. for example, they can produce anthrax. in fact, they can produce enough dry biological agent in a single month to kill thousands upon thousands of people. >> so the trouble was none of that was actually true. the informants either exaggerated or made things up. not just about wmds but also about saddam hussein supposedly having ties to al qaeda and seeking nuclear weapons. after the u.s. invasion, chalabi was installed as the oil minister. the neo cons once considered him iraq's george washington, but he fell out with the bush administration after bragging about his role and getting the u.s. to invade and being accused of everything from bank fraud to spying for iran. when the iraqi parliament meets this week to choose a new prime minister, "the new york times"

reports that one person under consideration will be ahmed chalabi. good times. and that wraps i thithings up f "the reid report." be sure to visit us online. "the cycle" comes up next. what you got going on today? >> hey, joy. >> a lot going on, as you may have heard. the u.s. has a big world cup game coming up. so we'll have a little preview here. we also have senator chris murphy who is going to talk about a new bill that is criminal justice reform but actually for kids. we're going to talk about karl rove's vast right-wing conspiracy. and at the end of the show, i think i'm going to go ahead and fix the country's problems just in time for july 4th. >> that sounds like an excellent idea. just do that. the country will appreciate it. "the cycle" comes up next. [ fe] it's simple physics... a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult.

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israel strikes back against hamas and mourns three israeli teens, including an american citizen, murdered because they were jewish. and record territory. the dow this hour is just a stone's throw away from a major milestone, 17,000. it's tuesday, and you are on "the cycle." i am krystal ball. we are just one hour from team usa's first elimination round game. president obama is also trying to avoid political elimination with a 42% approval rating and several political blows against him this week. he appears determined to regain control of the narrative. he just wrapped up on the georgetown waterfront talking money, jobs, and keeping both of them here. >> so soon construction workers will be on the job making the

key bridge safer for commuters and families and even for members of congress to cross. i haven't heard a good reason why they haven't acted. it's not like they've been busy with other stuff. no, seriously. as long as they're doing nothing, i'm not going to apologize for trying to do something. >> little random fact of the day, today's event was held in front of d.c.'s key bridge, as the president mentioned. it was named for francis scott key. he wrote the lyrics to "the star-spangled banner." of course, the fourth of july is this friday. but he penned the poem during the war of 1812 overlooking ft. mchenry in baltimore harbor. recent history has not been so kind to our current president, who called an all-hands cabinet meeting today, and who also held a hastily put together rose garden event during our hour on yesterday, monday, where he