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right now on "andrea mitchell report," the benghazi mastermind suspect is in court. he was plotting a new attack on the u.s. we'll get the latest from nbc's pete williams. president obama continues to taunt republicans. we're planning to go to court for what they say is abuse of executive power. >> middle class families can't wait for republicans in congress to do stuff. so sue me. as long as they are doing nothing, i'm not going to apologize for doing something. >> why a new poll may have the president singing a bit of a different tune. raining on your parade?
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mandatory evacuations have been ordered for the carolina coast as tropical storm arthur is ready to take aim this fourth of july weekend. and heartbreak. team usa's remarkable world cup run ends, at least for me, too soon with a newly crowned king of the net and u.s. soccer has to be feeling like a winner today. good day. i'm chris cilizza in for andrea mitchell today. the suspected ring leader of the benghazi attacks, ahmed abu
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khattala is in court. pete williams is joining us. what happened today in the case? >> reporter: the judge ordered his continuing detention and his lawyer didn't object. so he'll be held in jail until his trial date, which has yet to be set. the defense lawyer basically said that even though the government hasn't provided all of the evidence it should have, he's a foreign national with no ties to the community so he doesn't oppose continued detention but the defense lawyer, his public defender, michelle peterson, says that the government has produced an utter lack of evidence that he was involved in the attack. just that he knew some of the attackers. the government said briefly today that the evidence against him consists of statements from witnesses about the attack and voluntary statements made by the defendant. it's the first time that the government has said that he was
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cooperative while he was interrogated in the slow boat from the mediterranean to the u.s. the government says in the days before the attack, ahmed abu khattala, the defendant here, several members of a terror group that he commanded were among the attackers seen by witnesses, that have been identified, that shortly after the attack, khattala supervised the removal of some material and they went back to the camp where they plotted the attack on the second facility and afterwards he started to arm himself for an expected capture by the u.s. and that he was plotting other attacks on american people and facilities in libya, chris. >> that's nbc's pete williams. thank you, pete. let's turn now from washington to more breaking news overseas. the death of both palestinian
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and israeli teenagers is beginning to spill out into the streets. >> journalists, journalists! journalists! [ speaking in foreign language ] >> press! press! >> journalists! >> nbc's foreign correspondent is joining us live in jerusalem. harrowing moments that we just saw. walk us through what happened there. >> reporter: chris, we'll get to that in a second. i want to give you a sense of what is happening because it's a tense situation. you can see the israeli soldiers
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engaging in clashes in this neighborhood. it's a scene that we got caught up in earlier today. >> ayman, stay safe there. we're going to stay with these pictures, but you stay safe. >> reporter: chris, we're still with you if you can hear me. it's very similar stuff that we've been seeing throughout the course of the morning. now, israeli police are here in this neighborhood. several streets around this main street where we are, half palestinian protesters throwing stones at them and in some cases, some of the journalists have been taking positions like where we are on the other side as well. israeli police are trying to break this area up, trying to break this area up using stun grenades like you just saw and firing bullets onto the crowds. the situation like this is what
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we found ourselves caught up in earlier this morning. throughout the morning there have been about 40 palestinian soldiers that have been injured. >> ayman, you stay safe. we're going to turn to iraq where isis continues their march to baghdad as their leader calls on all muslims to pledge allegiance to them. chief correspondent for nbc richard engel is joining us now. let's talk about the ongoing isis threat to the rest of the world. >> reporter: isis has declared its own calafate. it's challenging the government to try and drive it out and it's calling on muslims all over the world to not just pledge allegiance but to physically come and join in the fight and try to expound the boundaries.
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this group doesn't just see baghdad as its ultimate target. it wants to take over jordan and lebanon, the rest of syria, jerusalem, and the list goes on and on. this is an organization that certainly sees itself with an international scope and believes that the united states itself will be a target. today the prime minister, nouri al maliki tried to call up other groups. maliki called on other sunnis in this country to take a stand against isis. maliki's government is shia. he said that sunnis, even those that have had trouble with the government in the past will be forgiven, they will be given amnesty if they take up arms and take on isis. it's unclear if those amnesties are going to be listened to.
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isis responded by saying any sunni who doesn't join us is now our enemy. >> richard, the political versus the military solutions here, the parliament convened for i think half an hour. maliki has said that they have to solve the isis threat before talking about politics. many opposition groups disagree with that approach. do we have any sense on -- those are obviously competing but interrelated interests. do we have any sense which goes first, whether there's a practical reality there? >> reporter: a lot of this goes down to the personality of nouri al maliki. he's prime minister here. he's been prime minister for many years. there are growing calls for him to step down. some of those calls are from his own party or his own political block, which is a shiite block and maliki doesn't want to leave. he personally is saying, we have
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to get through this crisis before we can talk about changing the government. very few people agree. not even members of his own party agree with him. i think there is a collective consensus in this country that maliki is part of the problem. but he is still prime minister and he doesn't want to leave. he has experienced doing exactly this. if you look back several years ago, maliki came to power in the middle of a crisis. he emerged as a political leader when general petraeus was here. the court was in shambles. there was a lot of sectarian violence. iraq was in the middle of a civil war. he rode the surge and portrayed himself something of a national hero here because he saw an improvement in security and i think al maliki wants to try to do the same thing, with the hope that there will be security improvements and he can look like the man who brought the country back together. it's his strategy but i think
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he's increasingly isolated in that strategy. >> i'm joined by congressman peter king, member of the homeland security committee on counterterrorism and intelligence. i want to start where richard left off. counterterrorism officials have told nbc news there is a threat to american interests is very high. we're seeing international locales. how concerned are you about all of this? >> i think we all need to be concerned. isis, i believe, intends to attack the united states, probably sooner rather than later. by having the sanctuary, which they have right now in parts of syria and iraq, it gives them that opportunity. in addition to that and probably more dangerous is the number of foreign fighters. these are europeans who have gone to fight with isis in syria. also, americans have gone over there. europeans would be able to fly from syria to europe and enter
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the united states without getting a visa because they come from european countries. the americans have american passports. they can fly back in. we're not sure who all of them are. if they are trained in any type of terrorist acts, they are more difficult to detect. we have to have very concerned about that. >> i want to go to another hot spot. we're in an increasingly dangerous world. we just had ayman mohyeldin, he's a msnbc correspondent. i want to play a clip of where he was for a moment. [ gunfire ] >> so what we're seeing is a clash between israeli police and palestinians. we have the death of a palestinian teenager, obviously the recent deaths of three israeli teenagers.
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where do we go from here and what role -- secretary of state kerry has put out a statement condemning and mourning the death of the palestinian teenager. where do we go here with a situation that looks like it's getting worse, not better. >> chris, i think we have to be careful not to have an equivalency here. there was an occlusion or condoning by hamas and they are part of the government. whatever happened to that palestinian teenager was terrible. so to me it would make a mistake if there was an equivalency. you have the palestinian government involved or condoning the kidnapping and murder of those children. i think we have to stand by israel on this. that's our ally. they are the ones who are suffering here and obviously no one wants it to turn into a conflict. israel has to define its own
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security and we should not be standing in the way of that. >> congressman, i want to close on this, which is also breaking news today. ahmed abu khattala had a hearing, a detention hearing this morning and will remain -- we got the first indication of what we suspected and operating in terms of the detail and that sort of thing, do you think the government can handle his interrogation properly and what do you think is the most important factor going forward in this case? >> chris, we don't know. i would prefer he go to guantanamo. i know that's not going to happen. i think the fbi should be given
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as much time as they thought was necessary. i don't know if that was the case. all miranda would mean is that you couldn't use that against him in a trial. i'm more concerned about getting the intelligence out. if it turns out that we interrogate what we thought the fbi thought was necessary, that's fine. if we cut it short like, for instance, the marathon bombing, that's fine. but i think we have to find out for the future. >> is there a role for congress in finding that out? >> yes. i'm on the intelligence committee and i certainly would be asking that the fbi come in and give him details of the interrogation, how far it would go and give them the information
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they need. not just for the purpose of the conviction. to me, that's a side issue here. it's important to know what happened in benghazi. it's more important to know who was involved currently and what future plans there might be to attack the united states or american interests overseas. >> that's new york congressman peter king. thank you. >> chris, thank you. up next, popularity problem. a new poll that stacks president obama against former presidents. but that's not even his real problem. that's next on andrea mitchell reports and it's only on msnbc. hey. i'm ted and this is rudy. say "hi" rudy. [ barks ] [ chuckles ] i'd do anything to keep this guy happy and healthy. that's why i'm so excited about these new milk-bone brushing chews. whoa, i'm not the only one. it's a brilliant new way to take care of his teeth. clinically proven as effective as brushing. ok, here you go. have you ever seen a dog brush his own teeth? the twist and nub design cleans all the way down to the gum line, even reaching the back teeth. they taste like a treat, but they clean like a toothbrush. nothing says you care like a milk-bone brushing chew. [ barks ]
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a new poll out today finds that president barack obama is viewed as the worst president we've had since world war ii. these numbers come as obama is
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ramping up his rhetorical fight with republicans in congress. joining me is gene cummings and chuck todd, who has many titles, including political director and host of "the daily rundown" here on msnbc. the poll is a snapshot in time but i do want to talk about this. the question was asked, who is the worst president since world war ii. 33% president obama, 28%, george w. bush, 13%, richard nixon. >> these great and worst lists, they are terrible whenever you poll them because they always reflect the moment in time. the public isn't taking this -- you know, if you sat there and then said, here are the accomplishments and failures for each of these incidents, nixon would come out on top.
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people think of where it is in the moment of time. by the way, when you look inside the numbers, it's a bunch of republicans and then a bunch of democrats saying that about bush. >> george w. bush was president in '06. >> the scale of partisanship is 90%. >> that may be the takeaway, which we know. there was a similar question on nbc/"wall street journal" poll about competency. this is quinnipiac university poll. no was 54% and yes was 44%. >> the independents are very much unhappy with the president and i think when you look at all of these numbers, everything is riding on the economy. the economy has just got to
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improve on his watch and i think his numbers will get better. but the independents are down as they were in your poll, in bloomberg's poll and every performance measure. >> the one thing i come back to on this, the numbers are not good. >> right. >> is there anything in the -- gene makes the point about partisanship. what can he do? let's talk near term, between now and november, every democratic incumbent is sort of praying that the numbers move up. is there something that he can do to move the needle or are we entrenched? >> i do agree with gene that it's about the economy. that's the only thing that could move his numbers up. reagan and clinton recovered from their six-year downfalls. the economy was booming at the time and it gave some perspective to the average -- right now they are feeling economically pinched and then they are being looking at the president saying, boy, the v.a.
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is a mess. you couldn't run health care. now you've got this voter -- you've got this surgeon the border. so this management issue. and by the way, in all of these polls, because of the way that partisanship works, i take any number, positive or negative over 50 for a president very seriously. you've got to almost wait until it gets there. you have an entrenched 42, 44. when the last ten is moving in the one direction or the other and on competency -- >> and in many ways, the things you rattled off, they earned it. they earned the rating. >> this question about competency has been focused on the parts of the government. >> if you look at one of the major pillars of the obama election is that george w. bush was not competent in running the government. good heck of a job. there was a team of rivals and
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it hurts -- i want to talk, just before i let you go, about another fascinating thing about this quinnipiac poll. i call tt second chance syndrome. mitt romney. if mitt romney won, they ask would the country be better off. 45% say yes. 38% say we would be worse off and 10% say we'd be the same. >> i think mitt romney is having a little bit of a comeback bounce. he's been out there on the campaign trail. he's picked a number of winners to endorse. he's trying to help his party. he hasn't done anything controversial. there's no reason for anybody to be mad at him. >> right. it works well with kerry in 2006. >> it's so true. it's so true. >> in 1974 and '75, i think president mondale in 1976.
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>> and listen, i think people keep asking me about this so let's pin this down while we have 30 seconds. mitt romney is not running for president again. >> the only way he runs for president is if the party is totally in shambles still. i could picture a scenario, rand paul is the front-runner, they somehow destroy his candidacy ala howard dean but there is no john kerry to pick up the pieces at that moment. like how would mitt romney, a third run happen, it would have to be -- >> summer, spring of 2016? >> correct. a total collapse in the country and you suddenly realize there's only one guy that can raise a billion dollars. >> and it's got to be jeb bush. >> right. that's the only scenario. >> jean cummings, chuck todd, thank you. >> you got it. it was, let's be honest, a
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. i want to turn back to the breaking news overseas where the frustration over the death of the palestinian and israeli teenagers is spilling over onto the streets. we were talking to aym ayman mohyeldin when he was caught up in intense fire. >> chris -- chris, we're still with you. we're still with you. >> joining me now in east jerusalem, ayman, just tell us what you are seeing. do we have you? >> reporter: well, chris, as we've been describing over the past few minutes in our earlier live shot, the situation here
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remains a little tense. the police have blocked off this main street leading into this neighborhood of east jerusalem. it's predominantly arab. the people here that have been protesting have been angered by the killing of a 17-year-old that they say, they have been swarming around them for different side streets throughout the course of the day. we're about 12 hours into these running clashes. police have been saying that this is a very tense situation in the neighborhood. not only is it in this neighborhood but it's affecting the entire part of east jerusalem. in fact, you can probably hear some of the stones that have been thrown on to the location of the police. you can see police huddling there on the side of the road taking shelter. but at the same time, firing into the side streets where the protesters have been throwing stones. the police are on a heightened
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state of alert. the prime minister has been following the situation here very closely. he's condemned the killing of a 17-year-old boy saying there will be a full investigation into what happened to it. but the neighborhood here and the residents that we've been speaking to simply feels that it's been falling on deaf yeear that they don't believe that they are serious about capturing the men that killed the 17-year-old boy. they have actually shut down access to one of the holiest sites in the old city. there have been casualties. at least 45 palestinians have been injured in these ongoing clashes throughout the course of the morning. chris? >> ayman mohyeldin, thank you. protesters are blocking a processing center as the mayor
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says several more buses of immigrants are expected to arrive in the days ahead. nbc's miguel almaguer has the latest from san ysidro, california. >> reporter: families turned away from a city who would not let them in. they first arrived in san diego by plane from overcrowded facilities in texas. 140 undocumented immigrants, maybe just babies and toddlers with their mothers boarded buses for murrieta, california. from there they were greeted by angry protesters. furious the families of central america would be processed and released from a holding facility here. >> they are not born here. go back to mexico. >> reporter: confrontations with immigrant activists turned
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heated. with roads blocked, police stood by as three bus loads of young families were turned away because of fears for their safety. >> thousands of people are getting into our country illegally and we're here to object that. >> it's heartbreaking to see this happening coming from the land of opportunity. >> reporter: the buses returned to san diego. >> thank you, obama, thank you. >> reporter: the family, instead, brought to this border facility to be screened for criminal history and health problems. those who have made this trip say this is the easy part. for many, the life or death journey across the desert is worth the risk, desperate to escape violence and poverty in el salvador, sylvia made this trip with her two children. we know the risk, she says. but in my country, my kids are in great danger because of crime
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business and professional man, every working man, every housewife, i urge every american to join in this effort to bring justice and hope to all our people. and to bring peace to our land. >> joining me now is doris kearns goodwin who was awarded a fellowship in the white house and also assisted the president in writing his memoir. doris, it's nice to have you here. what does the significance of the 50th anniversary mean to us as a country? >> it's not only important to remember that this was the writing of an historic wrong, it changed the landscape of our country forever, our politics forever. this was also a time when the political culture of washington worked, when you had republicans and democrats coming together, you had a civil rights pressure
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republican minority leader to break the filibuster, they had a history, they knew each other. they didn't see each other as tribal enemies. he accepted the loss with dignity, rather than indicativeness. and they cared about their institution. there was a sense that they have been together perhaps in world war ii, korea with a common mission. they fought together and knew how to work together. none of those things are happening today and it's a huge problem for the court. >> now, i want to talk about the white house. how much was the success of shepherding this bill through unique to his background obviously in the senate and to what he brought to the table, you're talking about the relationship with russell, his one-time mentor. can you talk about that and how he was uniquely positioned historically? >> no question, lyndon johnson
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was the master of the congress, had been so for a time. he brought all of those skills to bear on this. he would call congressmen up at midnight, 6:00 in the morning, and he would say, i hope i didn't wake you up and he would say, i was just laying here hoping that my president would call. he had a huge list so when he called them up he could say, hey, you want that federal judgeship, you want that pardon? do you want that river navigation in your area? now all of it is so transparent and it's considered a means to an end. lots of deals were made to get that passed. but he knew what to do and how to give credit to the people. he told dirkson, if you break that filibuster, the naacp will be flying your banner 299 years from now. school children will know only
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two names. how could he resist? >> doris kearns goodwin, thank you for your knowledge. >> glad to be here on this day. which political story will make headlines in the next 24 hours? that's next on "andrea mitchell reports." back here was excruciating. when i went to the doctor his first question was "did you have chickenpox?" i thought it was something that, you know, old people got. [ jackhammer pounding, horns honking ] [ siren wailing ] visit tripadvisor miami. [ bird chirping ] with millions of reviews, tripadvisor makes any destination better.
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headlines in the next 24 hours? we'll make that a little broader. we're talking about the 50th anniversary of the signing. my colleague and msnbc contributor, jonathan is joining me. let's talk about the next 50 years, the future of the civil rights movement. we're talking about gay rights and women's rights. where are we today and where are we going? >> i think we're in a bit of a tough place. if you look at the supreme court place basically gutting the
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voter suppression, a lot of gains that were made 50 years ago, a lot of people in the african-american civil rights movement are seeing things being rolled back and are pushing hard to change them legislatively. as doris was saying in your great interview with her, when the civil rights act was passed in 1964, that was a completely different time, a completely different congress, both in terms of makeup and in the way that congress worked. it's highly unlikely -- certainly you wouldn't be able to get the civil rights act passed with this congress in this day and age. but folks have to try if they are going to be able to do anything to change it, at least the supreme court case. but in other -- when it comes to lgbt civil rights, that's the flipside in terms of the incredible progress being made both in the courts, in the states and just among the
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american people when it comes to viewing lesbians, gays, transgender americans as americans who should enjoy the full american dream that everyone else shares. >> and i was -- i'm glad you brought it up because i have someone who has spent the last -- too long, you know, paying very close to the public. i haven't seen public opinion on a sort of broad public issue, gay marriage, for example, move as quickly -- and the conception is that it's among young people. in every generation, each generation is getting more and more accepted. are you surprised at the pace of that, jonathan? >> surprised? i'm more and more shocked. as someone who is gay and openly gay, just imagine what it's like for me to watch -- think about this, chris. and remember in april 2000, the nation was grappling with this
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strange thing called civil unions. >> i would remind people in 2004, gay marriage bans in the ballot were credited with re-electing george w. bush. we could talk about this for an hour but today it's an important day because jonathan capehart is turning 21. that's a reaction to the capehart day. who knew you were so patriotic. happy birthday, jonathan capehart, the best-dressed man in washington and maybe in the country, possibly. happy birthday, my friend. >> thank you very much. >> absolutely. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." andrea is back tomorrow. follow us
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john kerry went to israel 11 times and today we hope that 12 times is the charm. >> the protesters have been angered by the killing of a 16-year-old palestinian boy in what they are calling a revenge killing. >> we urge people not to take the law into their own hands. >> angry flag-waving protesters blocked the buses. >> usa, usa! >> the kids are being used as pawn. >> we're finally ready to stand up and protect our community. house speaker john boehner is threatening to sue president obama. >> middle class families can't wait for republicans in congress to do stuff. so sue me. >> team usa may have lost but americans have a new hero.
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