>> had to make a few more saves than i signed up for but i have to do what i have to do. >> go home! >> i'm looking for a job, buddy. >> we're doing fantastic. we're doing absolutely fantastic. >> violence only leads to more violence. that's what john kerry said today, responding to another brutal killing, responding to another cycle of violence between israelis and palestinians. this is leaving the united states fielding tough questions about whether we have to do more than talk. a wave of strikes from israeli forces in response to the killing of the three israeli teens. our own msnbc news team was

caught in the fire a few moments ago. >> ayman mohyeldin is joining us live from jerusalem. harrowing moments what we just saw there. walk us through what happened there. >> reporter: chris, we'll get to that in a few seconds but it's still a tense situation. you can see the israeli soldier dids and the police engaging in clashes. it's a scene very similar to this one that we got caught up in earlier today. we were on the other side, with the palestinian side. >> ayman, stay safe there. we're going to stay with these pictures, but you stay safe. >> reporter: chris -- chris, we're still with you, if you can hear me. we're going to tell you what that scene was that happened because it's very similar to what we've been seeing throughout the course of the morning.

several streets around this main street where we are have palestinian protesters throwing stones at them and in some cases some of the journalists have been taking positions like where we are on on the other side as well. police are trying to break this area up using stun grenades like you just saw and in some cases firing bullets on to the crowds. the situation like this is what we found ourselves caught up in early this morning. throughout the morning there have been 40 or so palestinian protesters that have been injured. >> a really frightening moment there. thankfully ayman mohyeldin is safe. this cycle of killings and kidnaps is becoming the norm. so what can turn this around? and does that responsibility fall to the united states? let's turn to david rhode, an expert on the region, and

communications director karen finney and republican strategist and former santorum campaign manager. david, i want to start with you. israel has been relatively peaceful, certainly compared to this for the last several years. how much of a threat is that this could blow up? >> i don't know but it's the extremists that are driving it. it looks like the men accused of killing the three israeli teenagers with the likes of hamas and then there are sort of really right-wing settlers who may have carried out this killing against palestinians. >> you mentioned john kerry making 11 trips to the region and it didn't seem to make any difference. they are talking about cutting off aid that he is going to become an issue in washington as well. >> did israeli's retaliatory

killings exacerbate things? >> it's hard to know. this is a key question. israelis argue that you have to hit hard. you have to show hamas that there is a price for carrying out these attacks. but you have three israelis die and then many more palestinians die. if you remember when the last sort of war in gauza happened, there were over 1,000 palestinians who died. in europe it's more pro-palestinian. it's tragic but it's three people compared to many potentially larger number of palestinians. >> it's the biggest political mind kill. how do you maintain the appearance of proportionality when the numbers are different on both sides? i think we have ayman mohyeldin. i'm glad you're safe and there,

ayman. why do you think it is, ayman, and is it surprising to you that this violence has moved all the way to jerusalem? >> reporter: well, absolutely. let me give you a quick sense of what is happening here. it has kwi yited down in the last 20 minutes or so because it's the time of the residents where they are breaking their fasts and a lot of the people who have been engaged in the protests have gone back to their homes. the police themselves are taking a break and regrouping. you questioned about the anger. it really stems from what happened here overnight and that was, according to local residents and the boy's father, a young 17-year-old palestinian boy walking to the nearby mosque was kidnapped. his body was ultimately discovered several hours later. the boy's parents were notified. they went down to the police

station and ultimately they believe it was their son that was killed. the body was so badly burned that they are going through dna tests, according to the police, to confirm his identity. it triggered a tremendous amount of anger among the palestinians because they call them price tag attacks, it's carried out against palestinian neighborhoods in the west bank in the wake of things that we saw yesterday, the killing and kidnapping and the burial of those three israeli teenagers. those types of tit for tat killings is what boils over to the street level in these kinds of confrontations that we saw. but the specific anger that you're asking about stems from the fact that a lot of the palestinian residents don't feel they get a fair shot at justice.

even the terminology that is used by the israeli police in describing these types of attacks, they don't carry the same language that is used to describe the killing of israeli teenagers and others. that's the example that he's used saying they are treated as second-class citizens, they don't get a fair shake at justice and that leads to the violence that we're seeing. >> one of the parents of the three teens said no more killings, it's not okay, trying to step away from the retaliation. are you seeing more of that sentiment or more anger and more violence? >> reporter: absolutely. the father of the boy that was killed told me specifically he wanted to see an end to all of this violence, an end to all of this craziness. he himself also expressed a tremendous amount of frustration and anger that all of this killing continues to happen, particularly against young generations of people on both

sides of the divide. >> ayman, thank you. david rhode is an expert on these issues. there is a dilemma because of the unity government that was formed between fatah and hamas. >> generally in american politics, hamas is a terrorist organization that wants to destroy israel. creating that unity government was a provocation on the part of abbas and that's why you see the problem in washington and the president is going to get pressured on this. >> karen, let's look at the domestic implications coming out of washington, seeing the palestinian authority being so closely tight now with hamas. senator rand paul calling for

all of our aid to be cut off. he had this op-ed where he laid that out. he said, i think it's clear right now israel has shown remarkable restraint. but sometimes restraint can work against you. sometimes you just have to say enough is enough. karen, do you think that's a real possibility? >> i don't know that yet. some of it has to do with how this scenario plays itself out. part of the problem, because you have a coalition government where hamas is a terrorist organization, it complicates matters like this. on the other side, you have those within the coalition government who want to see the process move forward. i think that's created part of the problem. i don't think -- my gut is that we won't see a cessation of aid because, again, that's always been an important lever and a tool. once we pull that back, what can we use to bring them back to the table i think becomes the

concern. >> and hogan, we talked about the political stakes for this administration as well. john kerry has been there 11 times, really in the eyes of many and in a lot of the state department employees that i've been talking to, this was his issue that he wanted to stake his legacy on. what do we have to show for all of that? >> that shows that the region is so embroiled in turmoil. it's tough for us to do really anything. we should stand by our ally in israel, in my opinion. we should do everything to protect them and allow them to retaliate as they see fit. it's obvious that israel has no interest in a proportional response. >> right. >> three of their teenagers were murdered. hamas celebrated, sang songs, possibly retaliation and the israeli government came out and said it was wrong, rejected the

thought of retaliation. regardless, there's a contrast in how these two people operate. hamas versus israel. i'm not exactly sure exactly what kerry can do about it. this is stuff that has been happening for a long time and i'm not sure how america can protect israel in this conflict. >> and returning to you as we part ways on this, i want to get your personal take, david. when we talk and, as hogan mentioned, the brutality of those practices, we're seeing more and more killings of these hostages. it's somewhat surprising given how it would send the message to keep them alive. you yourself have been held hostage by the taliban in your case. what do you think makes the different between captors who kill and captors who keep their hostages alive? >> i think it depends on the captors themselves and also the moment. i think killing these three

israelis was an effort by hamas to provoke the cycle of violence and how do you stop it? this was the problem. they wanted to stop violence and it's working. >> well, it's more brutalitied and violence and puts the united states in a tough position. david, karen, stick around. up next, the politics of immigration. i know you both have strong opinions on that. let's fight it out. the question is, how do you say not in my backyard in spanish? one california town is making it very, very clear to the u.s. government and to migrant families being shipped their way, that the welcome mat is not out. that's up next. each year, 95% of homeowners won't have a claim. that's why allstate claim free rewards gives you money back for every year you don't have one. and why if you're part of the other 5%, allstate offers claim rateguard. so your rates won't go up just because of a claim.

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give me your huddled masses earning to be free. that's the statue of liberty. of course, you can't see that from the border south. for people coming that way, no one is saying gimmie. murrieta turned away hundreds headed for a processing center. >> usa, usa, usa! go home! go home! >> usa, usa! >> on those buses, 140 people, mostly mothers and children. all three buses turned around for those immigrants' safety and were taken to another town 75 miles away. it seems that no town wants to deal with this latest flood of huddled masses. least of all, the town of washington, d.c.. joining us once again, our

political panel, karen finney and hogan gidley. thanks for coming back. karen, is america as a whole getting less hospitable? >> absolutely. we've seen the rhetoric since 2005 only intensifying and becoming increasingly ugly, nasty, and polarized. there were things that you were just showing and it's heartbreaking, ronan. we're talking about infants, small children with a mother or a father. that's what we're talking about. it strikes me that people don't even understand much about the people who are on those buses, why they are coming in terms of the violence in central america, the humanitarian crisis that we're seeing and instead are looking at this from that perspective of immigration and that very right-wing perspective of "those people" kind of language. it's sad to see that.

>> it's sad to see this reaction from americans around the country and also understandable. these are people's homes and communities and they are seeing strangers coming in and being a drain on the system. i absolutely get where the reaction comes from. hogan, do you think this system that doesn't know what to do with this flood of individuals aacross the border is a consequence of congress not acting on immigration reform? >> it starts at the top and in most of these instances we have no one stepping up and saying, this is what we should be doing. we're talking about immigration reform in comprehensive terms. i think that's a problem from a strategy standpoint. i don't know when it became en vogue. i don't know why we can't have a visa bill, a back of the line bill, all of the -- >> hasn't that been attempted

over the years again and again and it just hasn't happened? >> i think the tone and tenor is different now because people are starting to understand, this is a serious issue and you can't deport all of these people. that's not how it works. for anyone to suggest that, it's absolutely ridiculous. >> politically, let's talk about how we got to where we are. a year ago the senate passed a bill that most people believe would have passed if john boehner had the courage to put it on the floor of the house. he refused to do so. we could have had immigration reform well on its way if they would have passed it a year ago. not to say that no one has been trying to -- a lot of people have been trying to make efforts to push it through. instead, we hear this rhetoric from boehner. well, we don't trust obama to force the laws alreadien oh the books and on the other side he's been called the deporter in chief having deported 2 million people and putting more resources on the border than president bush and even more

this week just to try to address this issue. ironically, i'd just add that the reason the people who are coming from central america have to be treated a certain way, it's actually a piece of legislation signed by president bush. that basically says you have to process them, treat people humanely and then send them back. >> let's listen to the president. >> i'm going to keep on taking actions of my own and they criticize me for this. boehner sued me for this. and i told him i'd rather do things with you, pass some laws, middle class families can't wait for republicans in congress to do stuff. so sue me. as long as they are doing nothing, i'm not going to apologize for doing nothing. >> and sue them they did.

hogan, with congress turning their back on this in such a dramatic way, isn't this reliance on executive action justified? >> i wouldn't say it's justified. we're talking about allowing people into the country who are breaking the law. the president sits up there at the podium and pounds his fists and tries to pretend that this happened without him knowing about it or that he was not somehow complicit in this. republicans haven't been good on this issue, no question. neither is the president. now all of a sudden he's going to come out and say i'm doing all of this with executive action? as we all know, that's not going too well for him from a legal standpoint either. >> karen, very quickly as we part ways. >> john boehner decided a year ago he did not have a courage and over the course of the last year to get anything done. the president has been trying to get something done. >> but he punts everything to congress anyway. >> this is not about not punishing people who have broken

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privacy. remember that? an ancient tradition by our forefathers. before the tech industry, anyway. we saw the facebook scandal, where news feeds were altered to see if it changed their emotions. facebook is facing an investigation. many are looking at whether it was criminal. and google is in court fighting the allegation if their street view program counts as wiretapping. joining me, karen finney and hogan gidley. and richard. richard, facebook was secretly

changing the content of these feeds and i guess it's causing some people to take -- even though facebook has come out, they have stuck to their guns that everyone consented to, quote, research, when they signed the terms of service agreement. do you think this has gone too far? >> number one, you can't treat your users as lab rats. facebook changes their algorithms all the time. when these things change, facebook changes the way that things are presented, it can impact their own customers. people don't have any clue what they are checking when they agree to the terms and conditions and those terms and conditions change all the time. >> the responsibility seems to fall both on the consumers and maybe the companies not to take

advantage of the terms of service agreements as much. >> we all need to be up front about what we do with data so people can understand how they use it and what to ex tepect wh they come in the front door. just because people aren't paying for facebook doesn't mean that facebook can do whatever it wants. >> do you think other countries will take the same steps? >> if you go to a european website, you'll see a cookie disclosure right up front. if google had to describe what it does with cookies and how it tracks people's behavior -- >> they might feel differently. >> the supreme court is not going to take it. not a big surprise there. they often don't interfere but that was their last hope to avoid an entrenched legal battle. the street cars that go through and map all of our cars are also tracking all of the wi-fi data

that is flying through the area, including e-mails that you're sending. all of the porn, richard, that people are looking at. >> i have no idea what you're talking about. >> no idea. do you think they will crack down on that? >> not immediately but the google executives were saying, look, people were worried about street view and now they are not worried about it so much. they are having trouble tracking all sorts of data and what people are thinking about what google is using and then there's the question of can you take down google content and all of these people are coming to them and saying, please remove my material that i find objection able or an invasion of my privacy. and then when you get that big, you're no longer the sort of feisty upstar that is making people's lives better. >> and hogan, on that count, does america risk becoming too

much of a nanny state if it starts regulating the privacy standards? >> i think that's going to be one of the biggest questions moving forward through this midterm and also 2016 as we begin to focus as it relates to privacy, this is something that they have been talking about for a long time and i think some of the young people out there, addicted to these websites, we all use it, we're all on them, of course. but you just don't understand how much they know about your life. i got a robo call and they said how did you get my number? and they said, your number? i have no much information about you via facebook and twitter. so the privacy you desire, it's going to be a major issue for congress and for the presidential campaign moving into 2016. >> karen, what do you think on that point? do you think the younger voters are going to care more and do you think it's going to become a

mainstay on the campaign trail? >> i guess the question i would have for young people is, so you're comfortable giving up all of this information to twitter and facebook and google because you perceive that there's a benefit to you, things you don't even know about, and yet it's -- young people are so upset about the nsa wiretapping and the amount of information that we know the government is taking. so i actually would like us to have a more honest conversation that brings both pieces together because the government can make the argument, we're doing it for your safety. facebook does it to make money off of you. we really need to take a look at this because activity has gotten ahead of the law. >> richard, what do you think? do you think with all of these potential violations we'll see it enter the political discourse even more? >> yes. what happens when it's not? and that's the problem about government surveillance in this

unrestricted fashion or minimally restricted fashion. government can do something that google hasn't been able to do. i think that's the first piece of it. that's what rand paul has talked about but it does cross the party lines. >> that could have dangerous consequences. >> they can't take away fundamental liberties. there's a difference between having a manipulated social media experience. >> look, the nsa and the stakes are very high but it's true to c karen's point, we all have the facebook feeds. it's been fun, thank you. up next, they came, they saw, they lost. we're talking team usa and the amazing women soccer star brandy chasting.

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the numbers are staggering. not only the television numbers but in the bars, the parks, and everywhere in between. it was incredible to see. we were motivated by that. we saw all of the videos and the highlights of our fans and it was special to be a part of that. we felt like we were part of it back home. >> tim howard, #respect. that's the response from belgium's team captain. i will co-signing that tipping of the hat. he was superhuman. where do we land in all of the predictions that soccer finally hit it big with americans? can we keep the love affair going? let's ask brandi chastain. also joining us is mark abbott and joining us here onset,

soccer super fan, luke russert, nbc capitol hill respond. brandi, you inspired so many young soccer players around the country. that game was watched by 18 million americans. they were scored the highest world cup ever. do you think people who were tuned in will stay with it? >> americans love heart, determination, grit and you saw all of that with the men's national team during the world cup. i think also what they love is the cammaraderie, the usa, the red, white, and blue. they love to gather and to cheer on good effort. so for sure.

and my boys will grow up knowing soccer as an american sport and i think that's how our generations going forward will feel about it. >> it begins with the players. ten of the players on that team are playing major league soccer. clint dempsey. you can see them play for the club teams in our league. the day of the final of the world cup, july 13th, we'll have the portland timbers playing the seattle sounders, clint dempsey will be playing. 67,000 people will come to that game. >> luke, you're a way bigger soccer fan than i am. what do you want to see the league do going forward? >> i think the one thing they should do is move on soccer-specific stadiums. there is an effort to do that in washington, d.c.. they have a very vibrant fan base. try to capture what seattle and portland have done. if you put them in a smaller stadium, it looks full and it

looks better on tv. the other thing i would try and do is figure out a source of funding to bring in these mega stars and not get them at the tail end of their career and sort of a traveling road show. everybody likes that. >> mark, are you taking notes? >> i am taking notes. the great brazilian star is playing for orlando. we have the great american players who we all watch over the next couple of weeks are in our week. >> brandi, how has america's relationship changed with soccer since you were in the world cup? >> i think it went from not being knowledgeable at all to being super knowledgeable about not just the technical side but the rules were not known. my dad was my coach from the

time i was 7 years old until i was a teenager. he learned soccer with me. we learned the game together and grew as a family. i take my sons to those games. i tell them about what they are watching like my parents did with the old earthquakes. going to the stadium, being a part of the crowd and learning the game is really important. >> brandi, we're a year away from the women's world cup in canada. very exciting. how does that game differ from the men's game in terms of the reaction it gets, in terms of the dynamics on the field. there are men's team players faking injuries. is that something that women or men are more guilty of? more or less? >> i don't think there's a study on that so i'm going to defer on

that. what i know is that the women's game is as great as the men's game. there's a lot of players, as you mentioned, that are great players. we have young players, alex morgan and sidney who are in outstanding physical, athletic. for us the world is coming closer to the parity that happens in the women's soccer game. i'm really looking forward to the next world cup. i think everybody thought the big ones would walk away with it. spain has been out. england has been out. this is unforeseen. >> i know a lot of the people who watched last night's game are going to watch again. that's something that can be sustained. mark, a lot of calls have been rolling in online for tim howard to maybe play in the u.s. right now he's in the english premier league once this match ends. how do you convince him to play for mls? >> i think it's important to know that he began his career in

mls before he went to play in england and he may or may not come back. clint dempsey is playing in seattle. the vast majority of those players will be playing in our league. >> i would encourage you to reach out to the d.c. united and there's a way to tap into that and it would be a wonderful, wonderful -- >> we were looking at that yesterday. >> there are two very important -- >> that's the future, right? >> there's two big demographic people in their mid-20s when the world cup was here in 1994, they were 5 or 6 years old and that's what is driving the fans right now. >> we never count on that, we're actually going to look at that right after the break. first, as we part ways, brandi, who is your pick to win the cup?

>> i think brazil looks so dominating and they've got such a great roster and the people are so passionate. i think, like tim said, he and his u.s. team were feeling the swell of emotion from the fans here. i just can't imagine how brazil can't use that to uplift them to win the cup. >> controversial. >> it's possible. >> colombia. vamanos colombia. >> final word, mark? >> i think it's brazil. >> you guys, this was fun. luke russert, thank you, sir. >> brandi and mark, stay with us. brandi, you got an interesting campaign to end something that some say is a dangerous yet a part of the beautiful game for young people. laska, they think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here creates something else as well:

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all our kids play it, right? but is it safe? some star players have a major plan to overhaul soccer safety. that includes brandi chastain from the 1999 u.s. women's world cup champion team. she's back with us along with major league soccer deputy commissioner mark abbott. thank you both for being here. brandi, this is really a passion for you. kids soccer took off after your big world cup win 15 years ago. now you and some former teammates are launching this campaign to end heading the ball for younger players under 14, i believe is what you're going for. what is the danger of heading? >> well, i think what the studies show is that 30% of concussions in youth soccer come from heading. repetitive heading the ball, collisions in heading situations, or falling down after those situations and hitting their head on the ground. what we also know is that the younger the players are, the

weaker they are physiologically. and that neck strength is a really big factor in preventing concussive or subconcussive brain trauma. i want to make soccer as safe as possible. i would love each kid to have the enjoyment and longevity on the field that i did get to join. and really, to be able to accelerate their skills, the technical skills, the tactical side of the game. when they're physically readrea then we introduce heading. >> we've debated whether to cover this on this show. sports health isn't usually the norm. but so many people on our team had kids and are scared with good reason. soccer ranks third as the sport with the largest number of kid concussions. seems like this campaign could make a difference. it's also personal for you. you talked about your long,

iconic career. but you literally saw stars a number of times with your head injuries. you weren't formally diagnosed with a concussion. that may be in part because there were fewer concussion diagnoses just a short time ago. do you worry about the long-term impact of that on your life? >> well, i'm sure i've thought about it many times. but i think what i'm really focusing on is the fact that i and some teammates of mine, the sports legacy institute in boston are coming together to hopefully get this campaign rolling so that we can educate not only our parents but our coaches. we can use, hopefully, mark abbott and major league soccer and u.s. soccer as examples of how interested we are in keeping this sport safe, about helping our kids learn the vital skills necessary to be good soccer players, and really protecting

them until they're physically ready to do the type of dynamic movement that is heading. i see it as only a win-win situation. >> brandi, let's go to mark and mls on that question. do you think, in light of the way soccer safety standards already approved to be somewhat flexible. in 1990, fifa began requiring shin guards. for the next step to be the mls to be an example of wearing helmets, for example. >> well, i don't know that helmets are the answer, but the league is very proactive on this situation. each player is given a baseline test before they ever step on a field. there's a very strict return-to-play protocol. if a player suffers any sort of head injury or head contact, they're not allowed back on the field until a doctor clears them to do that. that's not going to be a coach's decision. that's going to be a medical professional's decision. what's clear is this is an issue that requires further study. so we were at a white house summit two or three weeks ago with the president talking about

youth concussion safety and what can be done in this area. we announced at that time that the u.s. soccer federation and major league soccer and the soccer community would come together and have a medical summit that really focuses in on this issue. >> well, it's certainly an important issue. we've heard all sorts of reactions. even pro players advocating. glad it's a matter of focus. i appreciate your stand on it too, brandi. thank you both for being here. and for all of you at home, this week's wall to action is about raising awareness of this epidemic of concussions. the most important thing you can do is get the faks. there's a startling lack of research on this, even now. go to our website. educate yourself, your family, your school. add your name to our list, committing to a game plan to this. information is power. share that website link using #teamupforsafety. many of you already have. many groups are on board with this. that wraps things up. thank you all for joining me. now it's time for "the reid

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