♪ good morning. it is fourth of july eave, july the 3rd. with us on set, senior political editor and white house huffington, sam stein and mark halpern and former chair of the rnc, michael steele. down in washington for us the washington anchor for bbc, world news america, the great katty kay. good morning. good to see you. >> good morning. i wish i could have been up there but the weather kept me away. >> i saw you tweeting last night. you were actually on the plane,

sitting on the runway? >> three hours on the runway. >> sounds fun! >> check out these pictures and you'll see why she didn't make it up here. some of the lightning in new york city. you didn't want to be up in that plane, katty, trust me. incredible. several counties in north carolina are under a state of emergency as hurricane arthur looms over this busy july fourth holiday. right now it's spinning 150 miles out to sea and the system could intensify from there but big section of the eastern seaboard is bracing for heavy rain and potential rip tides through the weekend and enough to trigger mandatory evacuations along portions of the coast. the view from space shows the scope of this storm and why officials up to new england are paying very close attention this morning. nbc meteorologist bill karins is looking at this thing and he has been from the very start. bill, walk us through where it is and where it's headed. >> the storm is impacting

millions up the coast through friday afternoon. now, overnight the storm did gradual intensify, as expected. that's why we do have a hurricane on our hands but not doing any rapid intensification, the thing you fear most before a landfalling system. the thunderstorms have wrapped around, the pressure is loring and two hurricane hunter air croft flying missions through the center of the storm. the center is only 150 miles off the coast of savannah but it's slowly taking the track now to the north/northeast up towards the outer banks and paralleling the south carolina coast. the daylight hours today is the worst of the weather from charleston to the myrtle beach area. wilmington into areas of north carolina, the closest approach to you is 4:00 p.m. to 4:00 a.m. tomorrow morning. notice 4:00 a.m. the storm is right here and it's gone and accelerating out to sea. by sunrise tomorrow, the storm

and all its impacts could even be gone from the outer banks. about a 12-hour window if we get any damage the outer banks and eastern north carolina 4:00 p.m. today to 4:00 a.m. tomorrow. what does that mean for areas of new england as we go throughout your fourth of july holiday? the storm is clearly off the coast. 2:00 p.m. location a pretty good sized hurricane with 85-mile-per-hour winds. there will be large waves and rip currents and dangerous on the beaches and may be be sunny from areas of delaware to maryland and the jersey beaches in the afternoon but i'm not sure the lifeguards will let you in the water if it is dangerous enough. cape cod postponed the fireworks show. it will be clearing out late friday. areas like new york city and d.c. your fireworks should be no problem. friday afternoon, friday evening the skies clear out and breezy and a lot less humid than lately and a beautiful end to your fourth of july after some rain

to start your morning. again, the bottom line is with the forecast, we're going to get hit by a hurricane on the outer banks but spared. if a hurricane in a location in this country a weak one we want it to happen. they get hit one or two times per year and they can deal with this easily on the outer banks and they did not expect a lot of damage. >> if i'm looking at your ma'am kreckets on the fourth of july most areas spared heavy rain? >> the rain -- here is the northeast. today actually just like yesterday we are going to have torrential rain and thunderstorms and a lot of lightning and major airport delays possible. i-95 corridor. as we go into the fourth it will start out rainy in the morning from philly to new york and hartford and clear west-to-east and i think by noon the new york city area done by the rainfall and connecticut the middle of the afternoon. boston is the last one and cape

cod to clear out. looks like a rainy fourth of july for those areas but they have already postponed the fireworks in those areas because of the storm. >> i hope the people in north carolina are prepared themselves. a lot of news to get to. katty, this story just keeps developing and getting worse by the moment. >> yeah. let's turn to the middle east where there does appear to be no end in sight to the latest round of violence there. israeli says it's hit more than a dozen hamas targets overnight in garza and raided villages in the west bank after a rocket fired into southern israel. it knocked out power throughout the town. tension is rising after ileds saying hamas murdered and killed three teenagers and a palestinian boy was also found dead and led to scary moments for an nbc news crew caught up between the crossfire between israeli soldiers and palestinian protesters.

[ speaking in foreign language ] >> israel police. we were on the other side with the palestinian side. >> ayman, stay safe there. we are going to stay with these pictures, but you stay safe. >> joining us now from east jerusalem, nbc news foreign correspondent ayman mohyeldin. it doesn't look in any way this is going to deescalate very

fast, is there? >> reporter: right now, there are definitely some growing concerns. let me give you a quick sense what have is happening here. this is the scene where we were yesterday. very different today. you can see a bit of traffic flowing and debris and broken rocks and stones and burnt-out buildings as a result of those clashes. off to my right is the biggest indicator why this situation isn't coming down any time soon. the blue tent is a funeral at any time set up by the palestinian teenager who was killed. they expect to see his body at some point. the israel police have not released his body. his body was so burnt it wasn't recognized at the time of his discovery. now they are collecting dna samples from the family to confirm it is who everyone knows who it is right now. the time being, the release of that boy to his family and the funeral procession could bring another round of violence and could bring more clashes from some of the protesters lounging around here in the neighborhood

waiting for that to happen. in addition to that, tomorrow is going to be the first friday, prayers in ramadan. israel police on heightened state of alert across eastern jerusalem so much so they have shut down some of the holy sights in the city. as palestinian worshipers try to make their way to the hole site tomorrow that could be a flash point for more violence. a lot of concern along the officials and local residents we have been speaking to there could be more outbreak of violence the next 48 hours. >> mark halpern here. we, obviously, know what is happening in the street a big part of the story. what do we know about the israel government and the timing and options that they are considering in order to respond? >> reporter: well, the israel government has made very clear they condemn this killing. they say they will use all of the resources of the state to investigate what happened to this young man and they promise to bring those who carried out the attacks to justice. they haven't gone so far as to

label this a national holistic killing that is sometimes the term used. they say it could be very much a criminal act and that is why the investigation is ongoing. but they are facing a series of challenges. certainly the security dimension of protests like these happening in east jerusalem are very rare and putting strain on the israel resources here on the ground. there is also the issue of the rocket fire coming out of gaza. overnight we saw palestinian militants there firing rockets into southern israel. the israel carried out targets inside the strip. no doubt it is a tense situation and certainly in the west bank in the occupied west bank there is more growing concern that the israel military stepping up its campaign to try to put the suspects behind the killing of the three israel teens. several homes have been demolished and to say the very least it is a tense situation. >> ayman, sam stein here to piggyback on mark's question.

prime minister netanyahu, mahmoud hamas. is there indication talking to the protesters you get the sense they are listening to the political figures in this country and possibly contemplating winding down, or are you sensing that tensions are just rising? >> reporter: well, the short answer to that is absolutely not. the palestinians here in east jerusalem are extremely angry with both of israel leadership and with the palestinian leadership. the palestinian leadership to many of the folks here really does not represent them. they don speak on their behalf. there is a huge distance between what is happening in ramallah and on the ground. some won't be able to attend the funeral of this slain palestinian boy. at the same time, they also question the israel government. a tremendous amount of criticism. we spoke to the father of that teenage boy saying the israel

government is citing attacks to the palestinians in wake of the three teens killed. by of that these type of attacks are carried out against the palestinians and why they condemn some of the calls that have been coming out by the israel government. the short answer is on the ground here, tremendous amount of tension and it doesn't seem that the calls for calm are heated by the protesters. >> ayman, it's willie. good to see you this morning. walk us through. you've taken us through the story and the background. katty played a clip of you and your crew ducking behind the car and appeared to be rubber bullets headed your way. what were the circumstances of that and in how much danger were you? >> reporter: we were not too far away from the barricade that palestinians were hiding behind to throw stones on the israel soldiers. we were on their side. the israel police stormed this

barricade and we ran down into this open parking lot where this blue tent is set up. they began to lob stone gra gae grenades and rubber bullets. we ducked behind one of the cars there. it seemed the israel police were throwing their ammunition on our direction and led us to shout out and scream we were journalists. took them a few minutes but once they recognized we were journalists it seemed they stopped to fire in our direction. as we tried to make our way out they pointed our guns to us and told us to turn back. the chaos of this situation certainly posed a tremendous amount of threat for a lot of the journalists covering that situation. >> we are glad you're safe, ayman. continue to be safe. the story is not going were in. thank you, ayman. back here, more buses

carrying undocumented immigrants could arrive tonight in california. the city's mayor says he is proud that protesters who forced three buses with families and children to turn around were able to exercise their freedom of speech. other say the demonstrators should be ashamed of theirs action. >> reporter: what many call hate is pap panel. palpable. >> usa! >> reporter: dozens of protesters refusing to allow the young families into their community. >> thousands of people are allowed into our country illegally and we are coming out here to voice our objection against that. >> reporter: more than voices were raised. this immigration activist was spit on. >> heart breaking to see this happening coming from the land of opportunity. >> are you proud or embarrassed of what happened in in your city yesterday? >> as far as exercising the constitutional rights i'm proud

of that. >> reporter: allen long, the mayor of marietta, knows what happens here as the nation watching and talking. >> people need to understand if they are showing their emotion and passion about a federal policy that is not working. >> reporter: fredonia cruz, it's personal. this young mother carried her 14-month-old baby william from honduras. it was unjust and full of hate she says especially because we are just people coming here to look for a better life. >> 33 house republicans have sent president obama a letter demanding that children who illegal enter the united states not be given legal status. michael, obviously, marietta, california, has turned into a flash point for this larger conversation. the president is talking about it and says he has to use executive action because the house republicans won't work with him. where do we go from here on

immigration reform because it doesn't look that pretty. >> i don't think we go that far. i don't think any will in washington to come anywhere close to addressing this issue. i think, you know, there could be some pressure, if you have one or two more episodes like this in marietta or if it brings up somewhere else around the country, one of the other centers, it may force folks in washington to come back off their vacations and look at it, but i just don't see this issue having any, any movement inside the gop right now. in their political calculation, no upside when they look at images like this you say how can you not see this is more of a down side so you should try to find the up side? the will isn't there. it's also true for some of the democrats. you got democrats in red states running for the u.s. senate who don't want to get caught in the cross-hairs of a conversation more substantively on immigration reform. they don't like these images either but you don't see this rush to solve this problem by anyone in washington right now and tells you exactly where

immigration reform is. >> mark, then sam. we had congressman gutierrez on a couple of days ago and we asked him if this galvanizes any movement for immigration reform and he said, no. . he said i have no optimism it will get done. he'd like to see it get done but doesn't believe house republicans are willing to go anywhere on this. >> we know from history immigration reform requires a politically strong president to get done and this president, right now, is not particularly political strong. i think the country needs to come together so solve this crisis and not what guest worker visas. i don't think you can go there without the whole thing collapsing because the democrats are going to say we need a path to citizenship. i think they should reach a deal on the short-term crisis because it involves kids and could be

solved. president asked for more money and that is what needs to be done now. >> refugee camps here in the u.s. set up right now. this is a crisis, sam. >> sure. we are having an estimate 40,000 to 50,000 children come up through our border. i think mark is probably right. you'll see these two issues separated. the immediately humanitarian crisis will result with the president more flexible how to deal with the children when they come in. you can't deport them. you have to put them through a process but the process can be shortened a little bit. then, separately, a conversation about immigration reform. and, look. i agree with the skepticism here but we should step back and recognize that this points to the need, the very need for a more comprehensive approach which is border security and a simpler way of processing legal status and the fact no conversation is happening right now is sort of an indictment of the political system.

>> yeah. not a lot of optimism on this issue, despite what is happening on the border right now. i want to tell you about sad news about a great american, a member of the greatest generation as tom brokaw dubbed it whose story is making its way to the big screen and the subject of a best selling book. world war ii vern louis zamperina has died. he was a part of the u.s. olympic track team and enlisted in the air force world war ii. he and a couple of crew members survived 47 days without food and water after their plane crashed in the pacific in 1943. they eventually were caught by the japanese navy and tortured for more than two years until the end of the war. louis survived and became an inspirational speaker, forgave his captors and went to japan and met with them and hugged them and imprem braembraced. his book was a best selling book called "unbroken" and title of

an upcoming movie direct by angelina jolie. >> if i can take it, i can make it. ♪ >> per issevere, i think, is important tor everybody. don't give up, don't give in. >> jolie is friend of louis says, quote, it is a loss impossible to describe. we are are all so grateful for how enriched our lives are having known him. we will miss him terribly.

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♪ welcome back to "morning joe." let's take a look at some of the morning papers. the "los angeles times." the federal government is ordering increased security for

direct flights entering the united states. officials say there is intelligence that al qaeda is trying to develop bombs that could avoid detecdetection. homeland security jay johnson did acknowledge a growing concern over foreign fighters joining extremists in syria and iraq. travelers should expect more random pat-downs and extra screening of carry-ons. >> makes travel even more fun this summer. "the denver post." a teenage girl has been rested trying to support isis. she was under investigation by the fbi for several months. she repeatedly told agents she was committed to meeting jihad after meeting a guy online. the fbi arrested her as she attempted to board a flight in turkey. she faces 15 years in prison and $250,000 fine if convicted.

dallas morning news. target is, quote, respectfully asking its shoppers not to bring guns into its stores. yesterday it posted a note on its website requesting customers leave their guns at home even in so-called open carry states. a spokesman says having guns in stories conflicts with target's mission of having a family friendly atmosphere. >> i love that. "the washington post" according to consumer reports, americans are no longer loving mcdonald's burgers. the survey says the popular fast food chain has the worst burgers in the country. >> what? >> it's true. >> no, it's not. >> five guys top the list for best burgers. yes! the study found kfc has the worst chicken and taco bell has the worst burritos. i bet you all have views on that. >> just a few. >> i'm still a big sporter of the american big mac. >> when was the last time you actually a big mac?

>> like, two weeks ago. >> why not use your best influence and get in and out burger in new york? >> they are great! >> mcdonald's made this country great, mark halpern, all right? >> they are fine. they are underrated. >> can i say something about target? >> target doesn't serve hamburgers. >> their symbol is a target. they are sort of encouraging people. >> it's a bow and arrow target. >> a family friendly target. >> you could change that. >> let me ask you, john tower, our producer, why are we doing this next story? >> honestly? i couldn't find an update to the nightmare nanny! >> why not? why not? >> do a mika and rip the script up. >> that is her move and i can't steal it. lindsay lohan is suing the makers of grand theft auto claiming they use her image to

create a character without her permission. the lawsuit says the character lacy jonas is, quote, unequivocal reference to lindsay lohan. it says that the character uses lohan's style. the character battles anorexia. no official word from rock star, the makers of that case. >> i think she has a solid case. i think she has david boyes coming together again which is the only other case we have agreed to take. >> right after ensuring gay marriage for the country, the next civil rights battle of our time. a web version is being launched of reading rainbow. the campaign was nearing its goal of 5 million bucks and got an assist when seth mcfar aiming

to bring the show back to life. good for him. they are inviting bring kids to read 20 minutes a day in the summer and keep them on track when they return to school in the fall. >> love that. with us now the chief white house correspondent for politico, mike allen with a look at the morning playbook. >> good morning. a lot of questions over the irs and targeting specific groups over the years and where are the missing e-mails. why are lawmakers trying to give the irs even more power? >> this is stupid congress trips and our brian faller has found something that republicans and democrats, house and senate all agree on. they all are swooping in to bills what they call compliance measures, things that empower the irs. a bill if you're 50,000 or more in back taxes, pay attention, sam stein, they can take away your passport. they are finding ways to cut

back on doctors, medicare payments, and they are looking for more ways to find out information about you and the mortgage interest rate dededuction. by putting these into bills, democrats are able to say they are raising revenue. republicans are able to say they are not raising taxes. >> obviously, irs is going to get more power if this goes through to investigate people and different ways to punish us, apparently? >> yeah. and they are also increasing the use of private debt collectors so all kinds of ways. at the same time they grandstand against the irs. they are, as you say, empowering them. >> what we called goons where i came from. >> they can't help themselves. stupid gets more stupid. the country is outraged with the irs and here they are just quietly slipping stuff in the legislation and then go back, how did that happen? rise up america. >> shouldn't we try to crack down to the waste, fraud and

abuse of our tax system and get people who don't pay taxes to pay taxes? >> why not start inside the system itself. find the e-mails and do your job. >> that too. >> get your act together before you come into my world and try to get my act together. just not credible at this point. they are not credible and anything this congress is doing to give these idiots more power, i think, is going to be an out rageus to the american people. they slip it in all the time and six months to eight months from now, everybody walks around saying, how did that happen? we didn't know. it's not credible any more. >> read the full piece on politico right now. house of cards, we learned it's never a good idea to upset frank underwood. >> you've made your point. >> have i? i hope so. >> such a waste of time. he chose money over power.

in this town, a mistake nearly everyone makes. money is the mcmansion in sar sew take that falls apart after ten years. power is the old stone building that stands to centuries. i cannot respect somebody who doesn't see the difference. >> so there is your frank underwood, mike. what is going on with putin and frank? >> on "house of cards" they might say this is as tough as a 2 dollar stake. the u.n. says "house of cards" can't film in the security council. they went to the u.n. saying we would like to film two episodes around that iconic horse shoe table and the u.n. secretary of state general was for it but who was against it? the russians! the russians have vetoed "house of cards" use of the u.n. security council chambers. we might find the episode somewhere else but for now the

u.n. security council is taking a stand. >> they are holding the whole thing up. >> ban ki-moon was for it. russia stepped in and said, no, veto the americans. >> happy fourth. >> happy forth to you. tim howard's record setting day in net had everybody asking what couldn't tim howard not save? the red sox get smoked by the cubs! that wasn't boston's only loss yesterday. >> there it is. there is jerry's tooth. you don't see that every day. >> i don't think it's a problem unless it bothers you. is it going to hurt? >> no. >> you're all set, then. i'd just go with it. >> the announcer tooth falls out during the game and they spend the next several minutes trying to figure out what to do with it. >> only in boston. >> we will be right back. ♪ ♪ i i don't know you don't love that guy because i can see

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tim? >> hello, mr. president. how is it going. >> >> hello, mr. president. >> man, i just want to call and say you guys did us proud. >> thank you very much. >> yeah. no, you guys just did great and

as somebody whose first sport was soccer, although i wasn't ever that good, to see the way you guys captured the hearts and the imagination of the whole country is unbelievable. clint, you were fantastic. tim, i think, you know, i don't know how you're going to survive the mobs when you come back home, man. you're going to have to shave your beard so they don't know who you are. >> well, we heard you were watching and we know how big a supporter you are so, hopefully, we made you proud. it was our honor, as it always is, to represent our country. >> that is president obama making oval office phone call to clint dempsey and goalkeeper tim howard congratulating them on that world cup run. the country is also proud. 16 saves by tim howard in that game against belgium. twitter saying what tim can

save. blockbuster. a good one. they posted a image of howard intervening to save the day in some classics. fun on wikepedia as well. someone briefly listed the star goalie and incumbent secretary of defense of the united states of america. later, the real defense secretary chuck hagel called howard with congratulations and a team invite to the pentagon. perhaps the last few days event summed up by howard's high school photo reading, it will take a nation of millions to on hold me back. a jersey man, by the way. we head into the world cup quarterfinals on friday. france against germany and host country brazil taking on columbia. on saturday argentina and belgium and netherlands versus costa rica. who you guys like? who is coming out? who is going to win the whole thing? >> i like the netherlands to be honest with you but they didn't look too solid in the last game. france looked pretty good. i don't want to root for the

french but they might win this thing. >> you one of those freedom prize guys? >> yeah. belgium is dead to me, obviously. i could never, ever -- wachffle? >> you don't like waffles? >> not belgium waffles. >> the brazil have to lose it. >> i think you have to have a latin team in the final. they have done so well during the course. my cinderella is costa rica. >> the population the size of kentucky. >> you got a costa rica fun fact. >> that is my squad. >> national flower? >> not there yet. who you got? >> brazil. >> the home team? >> yeah. >> going out on a limb, guys, geez! >> play it safe. mlb action last night. baltimore o's nelson cruz smacks

a shot and looks like it's going out of here. no that is not happening there. that is the tigers and the a's doing fun things. a foul ball. >> vendor catches it! >> in the ice! >> in the ice bucket. doubt he saw that happen or happenstance? >> right into the bucket. >> he does the right thing and gives it to the little girl. give that man a raise! fantastic work. he meant to catch that. very nice. nice moves there. things got strange in the booth last night between announcers jerry remy and don orsillo during a cubs/red sox game. >> you've lost a lot of stuff during games but never lost a tooth. >> i clearly lost a troooth. >> is it something up front? no, it's on the side. >> you can't see it? >> can't see it at all. >> there it is. the tooth. just fell right out. >> can you put it back in?

>> i'm not going to put it back in! >> no? >> probably going to get this taken care of, right? >> i can't see it. i don't think it's a problem unless it's going to bother you. does it hurt? >> i don't know. >> no. you're all set then, i'd go with it. you have the summer teeth. some are there, some ain't! let me do it! i'll do it! >> you're not going in my mouth! no, no. >> come on! i can do it. i can handle it! lay back and open your mouth! >> now i got to get another tooth! >> i'm telling you, this one is fine! don't throw this one outside the booth. >> what am i supposed to do? carry it around with me? >> yes. put it in your bag! >> it doesn't look very good. >> it could use some cleaning! but i think you could keep that one! it's perfectly fine tooth! open your mouth! there you go. all right, bite down hard! somebody give mia hammer! it's in there. it's almost in! >> that is an incredible

exchange. that is what happens when your team is 8 1/2 out and losing to the cubs. >> it was a game. >> great broadcasting. >> very funny! up next, the clock is ticking for residents in neither to prepare, in some cases, evacuate now, as hurricane arthur gains speed. we will talk to the fema administrator craig fug gate from fema next on "morning joe." m fema next on "morning joe." ate fema next on "morning joe." she keeps you on your toes.

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>> hard to say. depends if it goes over the outer banks or stays to the east of the outer banks. the big question right now is going to be people heeding evacuation orders. we really want people to -- if you're in an evacuation zone and officials say it's time to go, it's time to go. the storm up there tonight and deteriorations begin today. we are ready to stand by if the states need us but we want people to heed the evacuation orders and get ready. >> how tough of a decision is it to make that evacuation call especially a weekend like this, hotels are full in that area and people will lose money over the weekend if they have to get their customers evacuated. that's a tough call, isn't it? >> it is, but particularly in the outer banks, people along the coastal areas of the carolinas, they have been through this before and they know they don't want to put anybody in jeopardy. much better to have a ruined weekend than loss of life. so these officials at local level are really focused on life

safety right now. and they are making their decisions to ensure that people have time to get to safety. that is, again, why we ask people heed the evacuate orders. if you're in an area to evacuate, time to go now. >> craig, as you look further north, what happens to the storm then? >> well, again, based upon the forecast and track from the hurricane center stay off the coast but we could expect serious wave action and rip currents and other dangerous conditions. the mid-atlantic coast into the new england states, you know, heed the advice of staying out of the water. dangerous surf conditions. and, again, we hope the damage is minimal but we want to keep an eye on the storm until it's gone. >> craig, we hope certainly it remains at a category one and the people do evacuate where they have been told and some of the barrier islands near the outer banks. what does this hurricane season look like to you, craig? we have had a slow couple of seasons, thank goodness. what does it look like to you as you look out the next couple of

months? >> i just look at them one at a time. a seasonal forecast below average hurricane season and july fourth and we have hurricane arthur so i've taken the approach we deal one storm at a time and get people to get ready. if you live from brownsville to maine, it's hurricane season. get ready. >> fema director craig fugate, appreciate you taking time. i know it's a busy day and busy weekend for you. thank you very much. coming up, we will explain what led to this japanese politician sobbing openly at a press conference. i mean sobbing! >> a.h.! >> news you can't use is next. ! >> news you can't use is next. h! >> news you can't use is next. collection is here. ♪ ♪

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welcome back to "morning joe." you remember this cover of ""newsweek"" with texas governor rick perry with his cowboy boots? he recently had to give them up because of his back problems and not sitting well with the land commissioner. he blasted perry in an interview in the local paper saying, quote, i lament the fact that our governor could now pass for a west coast metrosexual and embarrassed us all with his sartorial change of direction and called the government's back problem a feeble excuse adding, quote, tell ricks boots can be

purchased with normal heels. jerry patterson, your texas land commissioner. >> what does he mean by lower? >> have a little jazz heel. >> tap heel? >> what is a west coast metro sexual? >> no idea. >> looks like this. >> rick perry does have, by the way, beautiful hands. >> the strangest thing ever said on "morning joe" and the bar is high! >> more importantly, he does have serious back issues so this land commissioner would rather him be in boots and pill popping than actually wearing comfortable sensible shoes. >> the land commissioner is concerned that rick perry is going to destroy the state's culture and heritage by not wearing boots. >> seems unlikely. >> mr. pill popper, please put your boots back on. >> texas will survive. a japanese politician

struggling to explain away his extravagant use of public funds. it has now gone viral. i think you'll see why. [ speaking in foreign language ] ah! [ screaming ] ah! [ speaking in foreign language ] say something! you have to hear to understand this laugh! i can't take it! ah! [ screaming ] >> man, just keep the mike. it's cool. it's cool. keep the money. i didn't know it meant this much to you. 47-year-old politician is accused of using funds on 195 trips in a single year, including more than a hundred visits to a hot springs resort. he looks good for 47. >> he does. >> he feels terrible about the whole thing. i think we ought to forgive him. >> i speak a little japanese. what is basically saying is i'm so sorry for this toupee!

a rough translation. >> boy. he really took that hard. coming up in our next hour, millions of americans are bracing for what looks to be the first major storm system of the summer. we will take you live to north carolina for a report. plus, hear about this? thad cochran's re-election campaign trolled in a major way when a press call is hijacked by someone not voting for the mississippi senator. have that for you in a bit. who is the only person in america who could derail hillary's request for the white house on the democratic side? here is a hint -- it's a democrat who has national campaign experience. deep ties to some of the party's biggest fund-raisers and knows how to get inside the clinton's head? mark halpern will stir up trouble with the big reveal next on "morning joe." ♪ [ video game beeping ]

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welcome back to "morning joe." 7:00 here on the east coast. mark halpern is still with us along with katty kay in washington. joining us is former mccain campaign strategist and msnbc political analyst steve schmidt and co-host of "the cycle" of msnbc, ari and in washington, host of "the daily rundown" mr. chuck todd. whoever is watching your plans for the fourth of july is less interesting than those of steve schmidt. i understand you're riding horses across iceland for the fourth of july? >> i am. my son and i. >> it sounds like i made that up but it is actually happening. >> it is. >> are you the most interesting man in the world? >> no. that guy. the whole hands comment, i have to agree. >> isn't that where they do game of thrones or are you trying to do a whole -- >> i could be ready for it when this is over. >> the founders originally -- >> yeah. look. you go out there. you ride for eight days.

it's going to be great. >> what are you going to wear? >> i don't know yet. maybe i need to get a vikings outfit over there. >> a lot to talk to. weather, several counties of north carolina under a state of emergency as hurricane arthur looms over this fourth of july weekend. right now it's spinning about 150 miles out to sea. officials say it could intensify. it's not expected to make landfall, we hope, but a big section of the eastern seaboard is bracing for heavy rain and wind and potential rip tides and enough to trigger mandatory evacuations along portions of the coast including the barrier islands in north carolina. officials up to new england are keeping a close eye on this one. nbc meteorologist bill karins h has the latest.

>> reporter: the one thing you never want is a storm approaching the u.s. coastline is it to be rapidly intensifying. doesn't look like the case here. we only have 12 hours now until the storm will be right over the top of eastern north carolina. the last-minute preparations and evacuations need to be done now. as far as the storm goes, we still have numerous bands spiraling around this center eye. again, we don't see a lot of rain on the west side of the storm. it's going to be a pretty dry day for georgia and much of south carolina unless you're on the immediate coast, you will not get a lot of wet weather. the difference is in north carolina. the eye approaches your winds will increase and waves and rip currents and everything that comes with a hurricane. the weather go quickly downhill this afternoon and this evening. the path for the hurricane from the national hurricane center. atlantic beach and cartier county 85-mile-per-hour hurricane. the storm will accelerate quickly.

sunrise tomorrow all of the effects from the storm may be over with. a 12-hour event for eastern and north carolina. if any damage, occur 4:00 p.m. this afternoon to 4:00 a.m. this morning. the storm looks to be harmlessly off the coast of new england up into nova scotia who is dealing with a bad storm but it's a miss for arthur but a cold front going through. you felt it yesterday with the thunderstorms. risk of severe storms in the area today. a flood watch for the areas got the downpours and lightning yesterday. this front is going to stall and pick up some of the moisture from arthur. not the storm itself. so we are going to get the thunderstorms in new england area, i-95 a lot of airport delays later today just like yesterday. the dangerous lightning. as we go into the fourth, that front stalls from about new york city to hartford over to providence and boston and a slow go of it because of the rain. it will slowly clear from west-to-east during the day. new york city the rain ending about noon.

hartford during the middle of the afternoon but boston and cape rocod, looks like a rainy fourth of july. it will ruin picnic plans and i know a lot of fireworks have been cancelled or postponed in southern new england. a lot of inconveniences and dangerous rip currents on the beaches this holiday weekend. thanks, bill. katty a strange story in mississippi with a race we have been watching closely the last few weeks. >> the mississippi runoff was ugly in itself and the fallout is ugly too. republican chris mcdaniel is pushing ahead with his efforts to contest his loss to senator thad cochran in that mississippi senate runoff. mcdaniel sent out a fund-raising e-mail to supporters asking for help for his legal challenge saying senator cochran, quote, stole the election and claims

the results are plain and simple. he believes numerous voting irregularities including democratic votes for senator cochran who had cast ballots in the state's democratic primary which would be illegal. senator cochran's push for african-american support became the focus of a campaign conference call that quickly --

>> so senator cochran's campaign actually did end that conference call. mcdaniel supporters have accused the cochran campaign of planting the question to make mcdaniel look bad. willie, not clear where this is going but all implicate and messy down in mississippi. >> i guess it's just one more chapter in a very strange political campaign in washington -- or mississippi, rather. >> it got weird. there you have whatever it is, some unidentified caller trying to make trouble for them. it is true that some people, if they did vote in the earlier iteration are not allowed to vote later and a legal matter they can fight out.

to the extent that the incumbent senator here was able to get untraditional parts of the electorate to turn out for them is usually a good thing in politics and how you build your coalition. >> chuck, from what you've seen, does mcdaniel have any shot as he is challenging this thing? >> they are trying to come up with a list of votes. i think some supporters of him circulating they found, i guess, around 3,500 examples they believe of people that voted in the democratic primary and voted in the runoff. i think he needs something like 9,000 or 10,000. look. somebody has already committed suicide based on what happened in this race. one of these people that was involved with the bizarre attempt to take a picture of the bed-ridden mrs. cochran. at some point, somebody in mcdaniel's world, you would hope it would be chris mcdaniel needs to say you know what? this is all gone too far. somebody has died.

somebody has decided to take their life. just stop this mess. stop this madness. it's creating -- it's an ugly atmosphere down there and it seems to be getting worse. >> amen to that, chuck. let's talk more politics here. mitt romney, we have seen a lot of him lately talking about politics. the two-time republican contender headlined a rally in new hampshire at the same spot he launched his most recent white house bid but only this time there to endorse u.s. candidate scott brown who moved to the granite state after losing a senate seat in massachusetts to elizabeth warren. speaking yesterday, romney shot down speculation he might be compelled to run again for president insisting the republican party has plenty of qualified candidates. still a recent poll in new hampshire showed romney leading the 2016 field for what it's worth by more than 2-1 margin and new quinnipiac poll shows 45% of voters believe the u.s. would be better off if romney had won the election.

steve, mitt romney is probably not running for president but does it say so much interest and speculation as him as a potential candidate? >> look. all of these polls early on in the process is a reflection of name i.d. who knows the candidates and how much they have been introduced nationally. i would say you're running for president really since 2006, you have 24% there. i wouldn't necessarily view that as a sign of strength in the context of a presidential campaign but i will say this about mitt romney. i think somebody broadly admired for his character inside the republican party and as he stands right now, he is really the senior statesman of the republican party. it's interesting that he seems to be filling that space as someone who lost the presidency, but, in fact, he is. i think that he is rising in the scheme of a lot of republicans and i think there is absolutely universal belief in the party that the country wouldn't been better off if he had won. >> seems an imaging branding of mitt romney to emerge as that

figure head and leader for the gop. do other people share your opinion that you talk to behind the scenes? >> i think a lot of people who have seen the movie about his run for the white house and behind the scenes over all of these years, you see a man, his character and innate goodness that didn't come across at some levels over the course of the campaign, that he had a hard time expressing. but i think that people who step back, look. he is outside the political fray now. when you're outside the political fray, people tend to look at your virtues. look at hillary clinton who shed 30 points since she jumped back into the political fray. outside of it, good. people pursue you. when you're pursuing the highest office in the land people start to look at you a little bit differently. >> a ouija board question. i think romney is in a vacuum he is doing well. we will see people most likely to run campaigning for people in the mid terms. anybody you think might emerge

by november having campaigned for other people, raise money for other people who is going to look stronger, maybe even a genuine front-runner by the time we get to the midterms? >> you know, it feels like -- u you're talking on the republican side? >> yes. >> it feels like the one guy who has sort of survived already this early gauntlet, right? it seems scott walker has been dinged and chris christie has been dinged hard and jeb bush has been dinged hard. i feel like let's go back to rand paul. he seems stronger today than he was a year ago. he seems stronger today than he was six months ago. they are not many other republican candidates out there that are running for president that you could make that case. politics within their party they are stronger today than they were, say, when they began this process. almost every one of these guys that have been of the serious -- the people we assume are the serious 16 contenders, i feel like they have taken steps back. he's the one guy that i feel like hasn't. i don't know if he is a big draw

on the campaign trail. he still doesn't seem -- i haven't seen as many invites to him to say, hey, come campaign with me as you do with some of these other guys. that has been a little bit surprising to me. >> i was going to ask ari. rand paul seemed to have done a good job with younger voters and made a concerted effort to reach out to them. we saw the huge lines in berkeley, california, cueing up from a few months ago. this week, he has this op-ed out, slamming the white house on its policy on israel and trying to shore up his foreign policy credentials. can you really see rand paul getting anything like a national momentum behind him enough to build credible campaign, ari? >> i don't think he is going to pick up a lot of 20 something or young 30 something's in a general election context and where the democratic party has done well lately. having said that, no doubt, like his father, he taps into

libertarian spirit in the republican party could be useful when you think about the low turnout caucus states that matter in primaries. you mentioned that berkeley trip. he has a trip planned to go down to guatemala and perform surgeries and something he talked about is important in his practice previously and goes to a different kind of republican and emphasis. not a trip he is stuck talking about social security or shutting down the government. he has a view about doing that without government sport. to the extent you want to generalize about young people or mill lineals or whatever i think talking about things are not negative about washington but affirm or positive about other things for him his medical practice and for him a real view of limited government is about unlocking freedom, to put it in his terms, is more attractive to a new electorate. he is one of the only republicans that tapped into the reangst out there the real

concern about the targeted killing program in drones and s spoke about that at berkeley and not in the day-to-day republican debate but matter to a lot of people. >> that is the republican side of the evasion. yesterday, on the democratic side, mark halpern lit up twitter with a suggestion of a possible challenger to hillary clinton for the democratic nomination in 2016 in a series of tweets, mark wrote this. first, pretty clear the person most likely to stop hillary clinton from being the next president is hillary clinton whether she runs or not. so who is the second most likely person to stop hillary clinton from being the next president? it is a republican. it is someone who supports single payer and came out for same-sex marriage longer before hillary did and has deep ties to the environmental movement. he has got as much national campaign experience as anyone alive. on potent financial network and ties to silicon valley and hollywood and self-fund a bit and knows how to mess with the

clintons' head and is unbound and unplugged and won the national popular vote. >> wow. >> with that last line, i think we know who you're talking about. please, the big reveal, mark halpern. >> the honorable albert gore of tennessee. a huge vacuum. the republican doesn't have a candidate who could beat her. it could change overtime and clearly unhappiness with her. huge recognition as strong as she is in so many ways, she has not shed herself without vulnerability during this book tour. i don't know that al gore will run against her but i do know of all the other people talking about running against her i don't think anybody has his strengths and i think al gore would like to be president and i think if he decided to do it, it would be a matchup worth watching. again, i think he has got a better chance of betinged her in the primary today than any republican does to beat her in a general election. >> are you stirring the pot or based on some reporting you

have? >> i'm not saying he is going to do it. i say if he did he brings enormous strengths within the democratic party to capture -- the anybody but hillary support, if she is dinged and continues to be dinged you start with a pretty big percentage of the vote and he'd come in as an underdog and wouldn't have to do very well against her in order to be seen as a victor. he has won the iowa caucuses, she hasn't. >> chuck todd, al gore is pretty happy with his cash smoking cigars in nashville with john meechum right now. what do you think about this theory? >> look. it would be a lot of fun. the odd relationship between the clintons and gores. there is the one person that stood in the way of al gore being read arguably is blk. it depen bill clinton. >> i think al gore believes --

forget the post-election. why was he in that position in the first place? i think al gore believes that bill clinton was a problem, not an asset. i think if gore did this i think he would do it outside the party. it's always been my theory. i think that the threat to her is going to come from bernie sanders who gets on a third-party ballot. and pulls away votes from the left or maybe gore decides to go outside the party apparatus itself, because look. once he is a candidate in the democratic primary, i don't know if -- i go to what steve schmidt said. all of the negatives come back in a hurry. i don't know if he is ready to handle the new media, right? i don't know if he is ready to deal with all of that. so i think if he ever wanted to toy with this, he is better off doing it as a third-party candidate. >> katty?

>> mark, we have to push you. this was very intriguing and everybody got excited about it. was there any conversation you had with people in the course of writing those tweets that led you to this conclusion? >> both before and after i wrote them, i had conversations with people who, again, no one is telling me he is looking at it but they recognize that there's a vulnerable to her and a vacuum and our politics, you know, as strong as she is as a person, as a public servant and a nominee in a potential candidate, we don't have for an open white house seat. you just -- people aren't just allowed to walk in. there is a vacuum. gore is more of a populace than she is. today if you asked me in various combinations who might run, i think gore has a better chance to beat her in the general election and i think he recognizes the mood of the country on some issues better than she does and the mood of

the party. >> the i way you put it. another way to say the biggest obstacle to hillary is the hillary industrial complex and wants to short-circuit a real race and primary. i don't think a good place to be for a politician particularly one as you mentioned, thomas, has legacy issues. people saying this family get another turn? you add the mood the country is in right now. >> exactly. >> the david bratt mood is the elizabeth warren mood and potentially al gore mood if it comes which people don't think that any of these folks on either side of the aisle should get reupped and should have a lack of competition, should be the heir apparent, the new cover story that could be this week and seven years ago saying she is inevitable. we heard that before. i think that is damaging to what she is trying to do and i'm surprised she doesn't have a full apparatus but surprised at the folks, you know, steve doing the book tour here haven't thought more about trying to keep her as someone who wants to earn your trust and win your vote rather than someone who has

it locked up. >> i couldn't agree more with everything you just said there. the notion that hillary clinton was going to collide to the nomination, there is going to be no contest. only one road to the nomination and it's the hard and painful one for candidates in both parties. there will be a race. she's not going to win every primary. somebody is going to emerge. the challenger. fundamentally over the last couple of months has her chances of getting a serious challenger into the race gone up or gone down? they have gone up because her numbers have come down. because she is out there so early running into space as a de facto presidential candidate, even six months before we get to the midterm elections preceding the next election. >> a follow-up. the conversations you commit having before and after sending out these tweets. was the cast lift from interest in gore conversations you were having or finds ago nemesis for hillary clinton on the democratic side?

>> that there is a vacuum. presidential elections are personalities and issues. think what gore could say 20 to her about climate change and gay marriage and other issues. >> from catalyst from someone on the gore side of things saying he is interested or the catalyst being you were just looking for somebody to be a nemesis to hillary clinton? >> people beside me who know gore better than i do say there is a vacuum right now and that she is extraordinarily vulnerable but she is not vulnerable to bernie sanders and not vulnerable to howard dean, i don't think. she is vulnerable to somebody who was like gore has. won iowa and he has won the national popular vote and has a history that could animate a run. >> chuck, last word to you, sir. >> i would say two things. i think we can't ignore the fact hillary clinton is stronger with democrats today than she ever was in '05, '06, '07 and any part of '08. that is something that is different now than it was eight years ago and i think we can't ignore that. i think we in this corridor are

believing she is more vulnerable than she actually looks when you actually look at the way democrats are responding to her and look at the way women are responding to the idea of her candidacy. we shouldn't ignore that. that said, this conversation alone shows you why i do believe somebody will get in that is serious, that will challenge her, because of the whole politics of vacuum this person will get a launching pad. will get an opportunity to prove themselves, will get an opportunity to be a challenger to her. it's something, if you're her, you actually need that. you can't just go unchallenged until the general election. now, i still think the person that is most likely to do this is going to be jerry brown. and he equally is a nemesis to the clintons in a way that is different from al gore but also possesses every one of those

attributes that mark was talking about al gore other than winning iowa and the popular vote, jerry brown's resume with the left and populace movement is as strong if not stronger. >> it's going to be somebody. unlikely it's al gore but somebody will chase hillary clinton. >> you come with me to his announcement speech and don't forget i do have a interest which i should disclose which is my al gore imitation. >> will do you it here? >> i'll do it during the break and if you like it, i'll do it here. >> the '92 convention, they said, let jerry speak. >> jerry brown. >> i'm telling you, the guy turned around california. >> 3:00 eastern for "the cycle" thank you, ari. chuck, i know you're breaking down mark halpern's theories coming up on "the daily rundown" at 9:00. tense standoffs in marietta, california. the government plans to send another bus of undocumented immigrants to the city. why marietta's mayor says he is proud of those protesters standing in front of the buses.

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♪ so there is new concern this morning about a potential national security threat and it's focused squarely on airports overseas. nbc tom kos tecostello is at th checkpoint in reagan national airport. >> reporter: overseas airports with direct flights to the middle east, so north africa, middle east and europe and

mediterranean concern that terrorists developing new explosives and perhaps nonmetallic explosives might try to struggle those past airport security screeners. >> reporter: the war in syria is the focus of this latest threat. security sources believe militants there have been working with bomb makers in yemen to attack western targets especially the u.s. the concern? hundreds of europeans and a handful of americans who joined the extremists also hold western passports. that could give them easier access to u.s.-bound planes. homeland security secretary jay johnson on msnbc rachel maddo you show on wednesday. >> we are tracking that population and we are very concerned about it because there are extremists within the borders of syria that would like to indoctrinate these people and send them back to their home countries with a different purpose. >> reporter: the tsa sets a security standard for u.s.-bound flights coming from foreign airports, the u.s. is now asking

airlines and those airports to ramp up their security. including more random passenger pat-downs and more screening of carry-on bags and more swabbing for explosive residue. it's based on intercepted communications and risk that security screening could be compromise add certain foreign airports. >> terrorists in syria and iraq and elsewhere continued to refine their methods of attack and that means that as they advance we have to advance as well. that requires new screening methods and heightened vigilance. >> reporter: the concern here, again, is that foreign airports, not to domestic airports, so you will not see anything domestically. at least not in the short term. but told overseas this will roll out in the coming days. >> i got back recently from vacation traveling through london. i got such a pat-down i thought

i would need to file for divorce. yes, it was very intense and this was just can carry-on luggage. i don't know what i did to set it off but i got the extreme pat-down. not taken in the back room kind of thing but i thought i was going to have to file for divorce. >> it's worse this weekend. >> yes. coming up, take you live to north carolina as the state braces for hurricane arthur. kerry sanders is standing by live for us on that one. we will be right back after this. ♪ ♪ waiting for break of day ♪

♪ 7:35 in the morning in north carolina area and here on the east coast hurricane arthur closing in on the outer banks of north carolina. kerry sanders joins us from kill devil hills, north carolina and he is not wearing shoes. >> a beautiful morning here. hard to believe. thank goodness we have the satellite images to tell you what is coming and no one would have an idea that a category one hurricane is coming here. the water in the morning is cold. some of the folks here a couple of days saying they feel the water temperature has dropped about ten degrees the last two

days. how in the gulf stream we are in the mid-80s and that warm water is the fuel for a hurricane. so that is why arthur, for folks who are waking up this morning, has gone from a tropical storm to a hurricane with a defined eye. one of the biggest concerns is for folks who are wondering do i come to the outer banks for the vacation that i planned all year in some cases? more than a million people come to the ourt banter banks from ck out to hatteras. if you're planning to head to hatteras you will not be able to go. some of the other barrier islands the authorities are saying not a mandatory evacuation but it will be a miserable couple of days so you might want to delay your vacation. of course, they hope they don't lose power here but a hurricane does knock out power as they know well from hurricane irene three years ago, that not only knocked out the power but even took on out a pretty good portion of north carolina highway 12.

if you're going to be anywhere from the outer banks north up to massachusetts up to maine, one of the big concerns are going to be rip currents. that is even after arthur has passed and what is a rip current? we always hear about these. let me sort of show you an animation here. as you look at the sand in this picture, you see what looks like a little valley of sand. that is where the water is coming in and rushing out. you're swimming there and trying to fight against what you can't see. a current of water is trying to take you out. even an olympic swimmer would be exhausted by trying to fight this. what you're supposed to do is swim parallel to the shore, get yourself out of that valley that is taking all of the water out, way out into the ocean, and then make your way to shore. it is so much easier said than done. there will be extra lifeguards in places up the east coast for this holiday weekend already any way. really a lot of good suggestions are if you're not sure, you're no a good swimmer, you really don't want to get yourself into

trouble to begin with. >> kerry sanders brings his own animation with him! kerry, enjoy the weather while it lasts. talk to you soon. still ahead, a scary scene for one of our own. ayman mohyeldin gets caught in a cross-fire over in israel. mothe fight for immigration reform. "morning joe" will be right back. ♪

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marietta, california, tomorrow. that is where you remember protesters forced three buses of undocumented children and their families to turn around earlier this week. joining us now is nbc's miguel almaguer who is there live. >> reporter: that doesn't mean they won't arrive here. a bus of 140 immigrants we are told by the mayor is expected to arrive here on the fourth of july. we can also expect after going to a town hall meeting last night there will be large protests here if that happens. the mayor say the buses could arrive the at this facility every 72 hours for the foreseeable future likely two weeks is what the city is guessing but there's certainly a lot of anger and frustration here. if the buses arrive here they will be met by protesters. >> are you expecting anyone to

come out -- we have also seen, of course, people who are supporters of the immigrants. are we expecting any of them to come out in support as well for on those children? >> reporter: we certainly would. as we saw here on tuesday what was a very heated and emotional confrontation here on this street, we saw both immigration advocates as well as demonstrators who squared off for hours and it went into the evening. high emotions on both sides of the road here. a community divided and we expect to see a much similar scene again tomorrow on the fourth of july, independence day, if those buses arrive here. >> miguel, thanks for all of that. joining us now is msnbc contributor and professor at the university of texas victoria. the children are inside the buses and trying to find a

better life here. what do you think the outcome is from what we see in marietta? >> what is surprising here is i'm seeing a replay of 1994 when california passed its prop 187. we see a lot of frustration, a lot of it being misdirected, obviously, toward these women and children. however, i think that the silver lining in all of this is this is actually a push toward comprehensive immigration reform. we can't say more will fix the problem. this is a big issue, complex. we need comprehensive reform. i think going into the election, whether they want to deal with this or not, they are going to have to. >> victoria, we know that the president has one of the highest records on deportation in the country yet he is out front and nose about the humanitarian crisis and wants to do something, but is, for lack of a better term, a complete road block with john boehner. so is the only option using the

power of the pen with executive authority as this continues to bubble to such a climax? >> thomas, i hang in the short term the power of the pen is absolutely the only route. but i think that given the public opinion, the public pressure, the demonstrations we are seeing in marietta and probably across the country from both sides is going to further pressure the congress to do something. because it's really getting to a boiling point. i had not seen this, like i said since 1994. >> steve schmidt, i think most people agree something has to be done about the immigration crisis, especially now what we are seeing along the border. the question is what? the two sides can't seem to agree. george w. bush tried and got close and couldn't get anything he wanted to get done. the senate has passed something through the house and says it will not. where will this conversation go? >> it goes into 2016. we continue to have what we have had for a long time in this country, which is an utterly broken immigration system.

i just want to respond to something that victoria said with regard to california where i've lived and where i ran governor schwarzenegger race. i want my fellow republicans to understand something. the republican party in california is kaput and in a couple of years decline to state wret it can play a role in the election but doesn't have the capacity any longer. a state that produced ronald reagan to win statewide elected office. in fact, the democrats not only have every statewide elected, official, they have super majority status. if that could happen in california, a state that richard nixon and ronald reagan were from, the state that george h.w. bush ran in the '90s.

to the republican party becoming a regional party, maybe a party that could hold congressional power, republicans better wake up on this issue with hispanic voters. >> who are you talking to? are you talking to john boehner right now? do you think they ought to move to the center and talk to the president more seriously? >> i'm talking about the tone, the hostility of the rhetoric, how many republicans abide it, and talking about how we have an urgent national problem and leaders of this country should be focused on solving urgent national problems, and at some point, you have to put the politics down. you have to put the fear down. and you have to do what is right for the country. >> let me ask you a quick process question. a debate over whether in 2016 time frame, you can actually do this, as in will republican candidates for president be willing to back immigration reform proposal knowing fully well get the wrath of their base. i look that 2015 looks like the

worse time to debate immigration reform. >> i've been in the middle of two presidential campaigns. one won and lost one. wing is more better than losing. it really is long and painful process. if you can't get 40% of the hispanic vote, you can't make the math work. period. mitt romney is 27%. >> you think a republican candidate can do this? >> john mccain survived the nomination process. what you need to be able to get in order to get nominated in these states, about 32% to 34% of the votes in states like south carolina and a lot of republicans in this country who understand we ought to have a pragmatic solution to this problem. this is an urgent national problem and for the republican party, it's a matter of life and death. you cannot win an election getting 23%, 24% of hispanic vote nationally. >> so easy for the gop or any national thought leader that emerges on the right to say we are a nation of immigrants?

so when we see these people that are standing there with signs saying go away they are trying to block the people from the america dream and land of opportunity wouldn't that be simple to say we are a land of immigrants that need to reform our system? >> the party goes back to its roots. party up until its recent lit radiation we were a party of simulation. we recognized that desire to come here. i think steve is exactly right. we are marginalizing ourselves to the point elections is less relevant for us nationally no way to put together the coalition because the coalition doesn't want to surround around our candidates. i think the 2016 for potentially contenders they look the party in the eye and say this is the way forward and if they don't do that, i think what steve says becomes the reality very phil. >> don't see that happening. >> we will get to that. >> compassionate conservatism. >> victoria, thanks for being

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it is 8:00 on the east coast, 5:00 a.m. as you wake up out west on this july the 3rd. it's a live look at new york city. with us on set, sam stein, mark halperin, michael steele and down in washington, katty kay. several counties in north carolina are under a state of emergency, as hurricane arthur looms over this busy july 4th holiday. right now it's spinning about 150 miles out to sea. officials say the system could intensify from there. while it's not expected to make landfall, a big section of the eastern seaboard bracing for really heavy rain, some wind and potential riptides through the weekend. it's enough to trigger mandatory evacuations along portions of the coast. the view from space shows the scope of this storm, why officials all the way up to new england are paying very close attention this morning. nbc meteorologist bill karins is looking at this thing and he has been from the very start. bill, walk us through where it is and where it's headed. >> yeah, willie. this storm is still going to

impact millions up the coast right through about friday afternoon. now, overnight the storm did gradually intensify, as expected. that's why we do have a hurricane on our hands. it is not doing any rapid intensification. that's the thing you fear most right before a landfalling system. you can clearly see the center now. thunderstorms have actually wrapped all the way around, the pressure has been lowering. we have two hurricane aircraft that are flying missions through the center of the storm. here's the center of the hurricane. right now only about 150 miles off the coast of savannah, but it's going to slowly take the track now to the north-northeast, up towards the outer banks. kind of paralleling the south carolina coast. so as we go throughout your daylight hours today, that will be the worst of the weather from charleston up to the myrtle beach area. wilmington into areas of north carolina, the closest approach for you will be from about 4:00 p.m. this evening until 4:00 a.m. tomorrow morning. notice by about 4:00 a.m. that storm is right here. it's gone and it's accelerating out to sea. so by sunrise tomorrow, this storm and all its impacts could

even be gone from the outer banks. so again it's about a 12-hour window. if we're going to get any damage from the wind or the waves, it will likely be on the outer banks, eastern north carolina, 4:00 p.m. today to 4:00 a.m. tomorrow. what does that mean for areas of new england as we go throughout your fourth of july holiday? the storm is going to be clearly off the coast. you can see that 2:00 p.m. location. a pretty good-size hurricane. 85 miles per hour winds. there will be large waves, there will be rip currents dangerous on the beaches and it may be sunny in areas from delaware to maryland and the jersey beaches in the afternoon, but i'm not so sure the lifeguards will let you in the water if it's definitely dangerous enough. they did postpone a lot of the fireworks in the boston area, out on cape cod. you are going to deal with some rain on your friday, but it will be clearing out by late friday night. areas like new york city down to d.c., your fireworks should be no problem. friday afternoon, friday evening, the skies will clear out, it will be a little bit breezy and a lot less humid than it's been lately. it will be a beautiful end to your fourth of july after some

rain to start your morning. so again, willie, the bottom line is with the forecast we're going to get hit by a hurricane on the outer banks but we're going to be spared. if we're going to get a hurricane in one location of this country, a weak one, this is kind of where we want it to happen. they get hit one or two times it seems like per year. they can deal with this pretty easily out there on the outer banks. i do not expect a lot of damage. a lot of news to get to. let's go down to katty for serious overseas news. this news just keeps getting worse by the moment. >> let's turn to the middle east where there does appear to be no end in sight to the latest round of violence there. israel says it's hit more than a dozen hamas targets overnight in gaza and raided villages in the west bank after militants fired a rocket into southern israel. officials say the rocket attack knocked out power throughout the town. tensions are rising after israel says that hamas kidnapped and murdered three israeli teenagers and a 16-year-old palestinian boy was also found dead. it's led to scary moments for an

nbc news crew caught up in the crossfire between israeli soldiers and palestinian protesters. [ gunfire ] >> journalists! hey! >> reporter: israeli police engaging in skirmishes and clashes with palestinian protesters in this neighborhood. it's a scene very similar to this one that we got caught up in earlier today. we were on the other side with the palestinian side. >> ayman, stay safe there. we're going to stay with these pictures, but you stay safe. >> joining us now from east jerusalem, nbc news foreign correspondent ayman mohyeldin who was in the middle of those exchanges.

you saw him yesterday. ayman, it just doesn't look as there's any way that this is going to deescalate very fast, is there? >> reporter: well, right now there are definitely some growing concerns. let me give you a quick sense of what is happening here. this is the scene where we were yesterday, very different today. as you can see there's a bit of traffic flowing. you can still see some of the debris of the broken rocks and stones, some of the burnt-out buildings as a result of those clashes. off to my right is really perhaps the biggest indicator why the situation is not calming down any time soon. that blue tent is a funeral tent that has been set up by the family of the palestinian teenager who was killed. they are expecting to receive his body at some point. the israeli police has not yet released his body. they say an autopsy has to be performed. his body was so burnt that it wasn't even recognized at the time of his discovery. now they are collecting dna samples from the family just to confirm it is who everyone obviously knows who it is right now, but for the time being the release of that boy to his

family and the funeral procession could bring another round of violence, could bring more clashes from some of the protesters that have been lounging around here in the neighborhood waiting for that to happen. in addition to that, tomorrow is going to be the first friday prayers in ramadan. israeli police are on a heightened state of alert so much so they have shut down some of the holy sites in the old city. there are growing concerns that as tens of thousands of palestinian worshippers try to make their way to the holy site for prayers tomorrow, that too could be a flash point of more violence. certainly a lot of concern among officials and a lot of local residents that we've been speaking to that there could be more outbreaks of violence in the coming 48 hours. >> mark halperin here. we know that obviously what's happening in the street is a big part of the story. what do we know about the israeli government and the timing and options that they're considering in order to respond? >> reporter: well, the israeli government has made very clear that they condemned this killing. they say that they will use all

of the resources of the state to investigate what happened to this young man and they promised to bring those who carried out the attacks to justice. they haven't gone so far as to label this a nationalistic killing, which is oftentimes the term used to refer to revenge killings carried out by israeli jews against palestinians. but they say it could be a criminal act and that is why the investigation is ongoing. but they are facing a series of challenges. certainly the security dimension of protests like these happening in east jerusalem are very rare and that's going to put a strain on the israeli resources here on the ground but there's also the issue of the rocket fire coming out of gaza. overnight we saw palestinian militants firing rockets into southern israel. the israeli government carried out air strikes on suspected targets inside the strip. there's no doubt it is a tense situation and certainly in the occupied west bank there's even more growing concern that again the israeli military stepping up its campaign to try to get the suspects behind the killing of those three israeli teens. at least 400 palestinians have been arrested in the past three weeks. several homes have been

demolished. it ises to the very least a very tense situation. >> ayman, sam stein here. prime minister netanyahu, mahmoud abbas, have condemned these killings. is there any indication from talking to the protesters that you get the sense that they are listening to the political figures in this country and possibly contemplating winding down or are you sensing that tensions are just rising? >> reporter: well, the short answer to that is absolutely not. the palestinians here in east jerusalem are extremely angry with both the israeli leadership and certainly with the palestinian leadership. the palestinian leadership to many of the folks here really does not represent them. they don't speak on their behalf. there's a huge distance between what is happening in ramallah and what is happening on the grounds. some of the palestinian leaders won't even be able to attend the funeral of this slain palestinian boy. at the same time, they also

question the israeli government. there's a tremendous amount of criticism. we spoke to the father of that teenage boy yesterday who said that the israeli government over the course of the last several weeks has been inciting attacks in the wake of those three israeli teens that were killed. because of that incitement from some of the most senior leaders of this country, it is these types of attacks that are carried out by israeli jews against the palestinians and that is why they condemn some of the calls that have coming out by the israeli government. so the short answer is on the ground here, tremendous amount of tension and it doesn't seem that the calls for calm are being heeded by the protesters. >> ayman, it's willie. it's good to see you this morning. walk us through now that you've taken us through the story and the background what you were going through yesterday. katty played that clip of you and your crew ducking behinds a car. there appeared to be rubber bullets among other things headed your way. what were the circumstances of that and how much danger were you in? >> reporter: well, we were actually not too far away from here. this barricade was the barricade

where palestinians were hiding behind to throw stones on israeli soldiers. we were on their side. what ended up happening, as the israeli police stormed this barricade and we ran down into this open parking lot where this blue tent is being set up, there was a car there. as the israeli soldiers came around this corner, they began to lob tear gas, stun grenades and rubber bullets onto the palestinian protesters that were there. we tucked for cover behind one of the cars there but it seemed that the israeli police were throwing their ammunitions in our direction and that's what led us and several other journalists to yell out and scream "we are journalists." once they recognized that we were journalists, it seemed that they stopped firing in our direction. as we tried to make our way out as you saw in that video as well, they pointed their guns at us and told us to turn back. in terms of danger, i don't think there was imminent danger but the chaos of the situation posed a tremendous amount of threat for a lot of the journalists that were covering that situation. >> we're glad you're safe,

ayman. continue to be safe and we'll talk to you a lot more in the coming days. ayman mohyeldin for us in east jerusalem. thank you. back here at home, more buses carrying undocumented immigrants could arrive tomorrow in murrieta, california, a city at the center of a showdown of this country's immigration country. the mayor said he's proud that people who forced three buses to turn around were able to exercise their freedom of speech. others say the demonstrators should be ashamed of their actions. nbc's miguel almaguer has more on this story. >> reporter: anger and tension, what many called hate, was palpable. >> usa, usa, usa. >> reporter: dozens of protesters refusing to allow the young families into their community. >> thousands of people being allowed into our country illegally. we're coming out here to voice our objection against that. >> reporter: but more than voices were raised. this immigration advocate was spit on. >> it's heart-breaking to see

this happening coming from the land of opportunity. >> are you proud or embarrassed of what happened in your city yesterday? >> well, as far as exercising the constitutional rights, i'm proud of that. >> reporter: alan long, the mayor of murrieta, knows what happened here has the nation watching and talking. >> people need to understand that they're showing their emotion and passion about a federal policy that's not working. >> reporter: for donia cruz, it's personal. this young mother carried her 14-month-old baby boy, william, from honduras across a thousand miles of uncertainty. it was very unjust and full of hate, she says. especially because we are people that are just coming here to look for a better life. >> meanwhile 33 house republicans have sent president obama a letter demanding that children who illegally enter the united states not be given legal status. michael, obviously murrieta, california, has turned into a flash point for this larger conversation. the president has been talking about it and says he's going to

have to use executive action because house republicans won't work with him. where do we go from here on immigration reform? >> the optics are beyond ugly. i don't think we go that far. i don't think there's any will right now in washington to come anywhere close to addressing this issue. i think, you know, there could be some pressure if you have one or two more episodes like this at murrieta, or if it springs up somewhere else around the country, one of the other centers, it may force folks in washington to come back off their vacations and look at it. but i just don't see this issue having any, any movement inside the gop right now. there's just -- in their political calculation, no upside. oddly enough when they look at images like this, you say how can you not see this is more of a downside so you should try to find the upside. but the will isn't there. it's also true for some of the democrats. you've got democrats in red states running for the u.s. senate who do not want to get caught in the cross-hairs of a conversation more substantively

on immigration reform. they don't like these images either, but you don't see this rush to solve this problem by anyone in washington right now, and that tells you exactly where immigration reform is. >> mark and then sam, we had congressman gutierrez of illinois on a couple of days ago and asked if that galvanized the movement for immigration reform and he frankly said no. he said i have no hope, no optimism it would get done. he doesn't believe house republicans are willing to go anywhere on this. >> there's nothing that suggests that john boehner's house republicans and harry reid's senate democrats could agree on anything. we know from history immigration reform requires a politically strong president to get done. and this president right now is not particularly politically strong. i think the country needs to come together to address the short-term humanitarian crisis, not try to load in -- even the things people attend to agree on like guest worker visas or dealing with the agricultural issues, i don't think you can even go there without the whole thing collapsing because then democrats are going to say we need a path for citizenship for

people here illegally currently. i think the president and john boehner should try to reach a deal on the short-term crisis because that involves kids. it could be solved. the president asks for more money. that's what needs to be done now. >> sam, there are refugee camps along the american-mexican border here in the united states set up right now. this is a crisis. >> sure. we're having an estimated 40,000 to 50,000 children without parents come up through our border and not from mexico but honduras, guatemala, el salvador. i think mark is probably right, you're going to end up seeing these two issues separated, the immediate humanitarian crisis will result in a legislative push to give the president a bit more flexibility about how to deal with these children when they come in. you can't just deport them, you have to put them through a process, but that process could be shortened a little bit. separately, there's going to be a conversation about immigration reform. look, i agree with the skepticism here, but we should step back and recognize that this points to the need, the very need for a more comprehensive approach, which is border security, along with a

simpler way of processing legal status. the fact that there's no conversation happening right now is sort of an indictment of the political system. >> yeah, there's not a lot of optimism on this issue, despite what's happening on the border right now. before we go to break, i want to tell you about some sad news about a great american, a member of the greatest generation, as tom brokaw dubbed it, whose story is making its way to the big screen and was the subject of a best-selling book. world war ii veteran louis zamperini has died after battling pneumonia. a member of the 1936 u.s. olympic track team enlisted in the air force during world war ii. he and a couple of crew members survived for 47 days without food and water after their plane crashed into the pacific in 1943. they eventually were caught by the japanese navy and tortured for more than two years until the end of the war. he survived and became an inspirational speaker, forgave his captors, went to japan, met with them, hugged them, embraced

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welcome back to "morning joe." let's take a look at some of the morning papers from our parade of papers. "the los angeles times" the federal government is orderingin creed security for flights entering the united states. there is intelligence al qaeda is trying to develop bomb that say could avoid detection. the order is not in response to a specific threat. however, homeland security secretary jay johnson did acknowledge a concern over foreign fighters joining extremists in syria and iraq. travelers should expect more random patdowns, extra screenings of carry-ons and increased scrutiny of electronics. >> which is going to make travel even more fun this summer. the "denver post" a teenage girl has been arrested for trying to support al qaeda and isis. 19-year-old shannon conley was urnlds investigation by the fbi for several months. during that time she repeatedly

told agents that she was committed to waging jihad after meeting a man online who encouraged her to fight beside him in syria. the fbi arrested her as she attempted to board a flight to turkey. she faces 15 years in prison and a $250,000 fine if convicted. "the dallas morning news," target is, quote, respectfully asking its shoppers not to bring guns into the stores. yesterday the retail giant posted a note on its website requesting customers leave their guns at home, even in so-called open carry states. a spokesman says having guns in stores conflicts with target's mission of having a family friendly atmosphere. >> i love that. "washington post" according to consume reports americans are no longer loving mcdonald's burgers. the popular fast food chain has the worst burgers in the country. >> it's true. >> five guys topped the list for best burgers. yes. the study also found kfc has the worst chicken and taco bell has

the worst burritos. chipotle took the top honors as the number one fast casual restaurant. i bet you all have views on that. >> i'm still a big supporter of the american big mac. >> when's the last time you had a big mac. >> like two weeks ago. yeah. >> why not use your vast influence and get us an in and out burger? >> in and out is great, five guys are great. but let's not -- mcdonald's made this country great, mark halperin. >> they're fine. they're underrated. >> can i just say something about target? their symbol is literally a target. they're encouraging people -- they're sort of -- >> it's a bow and arrow target. >> astute observation, sam. >> a friendly target. >> you could change that. >> let me ask you, john tower, our producer, why are we doing this next story? >> honestly because i couldn't

find an update to the nightmare nanny. >> oh! >> why not give an homage to mika and rip your script up? >> that's her news. lindsay lohan is suing the makers of grand theft auto claiming they used her image to create a character without her permission. the lawsuit says the character, lacy jonas, is an unequivocal reference to lindsay lohan. the suit also alleges that the character uses lohan's voice and styles from her clothing line. in the claim lacy is a famous actress who's often on the run from paparazzi. she also battles anorexia. no official word from rock star, the makers of that game. >> i think she's got a solid case. >> i think she's got david boise and olson. >> together again. >> this is the only other case they have agreed to take. >> right after ensuring gay marriage for the country, this is the next civil rights battle of our time. this weekend's "parade"

magazine features levar burton and his kickstarter campaign to launch a web version of "reading rainbow." it was nearing its goal of five million bucks and got an assist when seth mcfar lan offered to match the donations. it helps kids avoid the summer slump and read for at least 20 minutes a day over the summer to keep them on track when they return to school in the fall. >> awesome. >> good issue. with us now the chief white house correspondent for politico, mike allen. he has a look at the playbook. mike, good morning. >> good morning, willie. >> a lot of questions still obviously over the irs and targeting over specific groups over the years and where did those missing e-mails go. so why are lawmakers now looking to give the irs even more power? >> well, willie, this is stupid congress tricks, and our brian fayler has found something that republicans and democrats, house and senate all agree on.

they all are swooping into bills new what they call compliance measures, things that empower the irs. so there's a bill that if you're $50,000 or more in back taxes, pay attention sam stein, they can take away your passport. they're finding ways to cut back on doctors medicare payments and they're looking for more ways to find out information about you and the mortgage interest rate deduction. so by putting these into bills, democrats are able to say they're raising revenue. republicans are able to say that they're not raising taxes. >> so obviously the irs is going to get more power if this goes through to investigate people and different ways to punish us apparently. >> yeah. and they're also increasing the use of private debt collectors, so there's all kinds of ways. at the same time they grandstand against the irs, they are, as you say, empowering them. >> private debt collectors, also known as hired goons where i came from. >> it's so washington.

>> more bureaucracy? >> they just can't help themselves. stupid begets more stupid. the country is outraged with the irs and here they are quietly slipping stuff into legislation. then they'll go back, oh, how did that happen? rise up, america. >> well, shouldn't we try to crack down on the waste, fraud and abuse of our tax system and get people who don't pay taxes to pay taxes? >> why don't we start with the waste, fraud and abuse within the system itself? find the e-mails, do your job. get your act together before you come into my world and try to get my act together. it's just not credible at this point. >> that's fair enough. >> they're just not credible. anything congress is doing to give these idiots more power i think is going to be an outrage to the american people. so you keep reporting mike, because people need to know this stuff. they slip it in all the time. in six months, eight months from now, everybody walks around how did that happen? we didn't know. and it's not credible anymore. >> mike allen, thanks a lot, mike. up next, the june jobs report. will this finally be a breakout

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jen lipman? she's on the look for tim howard. i know tim howard, tell jen. >> come explain that a little bit. >> all right. so business before the bell now with cnbc's sara eisen. sara, we got some good news we've been tweeting about when it comes to the jobs numbers. >> our economy created 288,000 jobs in the month of may -- in the month of june, excuse me. that was way better than economists were looking for. they were looking for a number more like 215,000 jobs. 288. also, our nation's unemployment rate drops from 6.3% to 6.1% and that is the lowest unemployment rate we've seen since september, 2008. that is going to be your headline. it is improvement in the labor market. and another milestone here for you, it marks the fifth month that job creation in this country has been above 200,000. that's the longest streak since back in the '90s tech boom, guys. >> so, sara, the markets we've

watched very interesting this week, and early in the week doing so well, how do you think things will be playing out today based on this? >> it really has been such a bullish or positive start to the second half of the year and the second half of july. we've seen a lot of buying on wall street and the s&p 500 and the dow are trading near record highs. the dow is awfully close to 17,000, just a key psychological barrier there. a milestone, if you will. i also on these breaking numbers want to point out you guys talk a lot about wages, average hourly earnings. an increase of 0.2% which is really what economists are looking for but it's really not enough to keep up. remember, americans need higher incomes if they're going to spend. this economy is built on spen s spending. so it's great news that we are creating jobs and hopefully that will lead to higher incomes and higher wages but we're not seeing the wage growth we need to see in a healthy normal

recovery. >> sam stein, the old predictions are pretty much right in line with where we're coming out economically and looking at these job numbers where they predicted the unemployment rate to grow. >> yeah, i mean we're following a pretty steady trajectory which is 200,000 to 250,000 jobs added a month. there's some backward revisions which makes the prior months better. the key point is labor force participation rate. are people dropping out because they're so frustrated for work? it looks like this month it stayed the same, which is a good sign relative to past months, but that and the disparity in income are the big remaining questions, because we are in a steady, moderate incline in terms of job growth it appears. >> our thanks to cnbc's sara iefb. have a great holiday weekend. >> you too. still ahead, president lyndon johnson's signature piece of legislation is one of the most important bills in the history of the united states. but could the civil rights act be signed today considering the nation's hostile political environment? "morning joe" back after this. 

back with us again, we've got pulitzer prize-winning biografr and historian robert caro. his book is now out in paperbook. it's sort of a lyndon mania sweeping america. your books, broadway. for a guy that was hard to love and embrace for a lot of people, he's looking pretty good and a lot of people thought 50 years later. >> well, his genius at getting things through congress, which is really unparalleled. you say this was a moment in american history. when he becomes president, at that moment jack kennedy's civil rights bill is dead in the

water. as every civil rights bill has been since reconstruction. no civil rights bill has passed in almost a century. johnson picks it up and really rams it to pass. >> and this from a man who was not a civil rights champion, to say the least. in fact you talk about in '57 moving towards a possible presidential race, and that basically got him moving on this issue. >> yes. but there was always something in johnson from the time he was young that wanted to help people of color. when he was 21 years old, he asked to take a year off from college to earn enough money to go on and he teaches in what's called the mexican school down in a little town called kotula in texas. i wrote no teacher ever cared if these kids learned or not. this teacher cared. >> how are your feelings about lyndon johnson, the man changed

from 1977 to 2007. do you like him more, do you like him less? do you know him more, do you know him less? >> he's such a complicated man that your feelings go back and forth. one moment he's doing something really wonderful, like passing the civil rights bill. the next moment he's doing s something so cruel and vicious that you can believe it. >> such as? >> the way he treated members of his staff. people in the senate, senators know if you cross him, he will ruin you. he won't forget. he's passing the civil rights bill. they say you need a vote in the house ways and means committee or we're not going to get it out of committee. johnson says get me on the phone. he says i can't change my vote because i've given my constituents my word. i'll lose face. johnson says to riverkoff and he said you save my face today, i'll save your face tomorrow. people in the senate knew that

he never forgot, and that helped. but he does -- if a person crosses him, he doesn't forget. >> so that's some of the things that we talked about over the past few years with the present commander in chief and now we have in the past month or so, we have the speaker thinking -- suing the president for executive orders because nothing is getting done. is there anything that you've learned about johnson's legacy in terms of what it takes to get it done, and does it take sometimes being that tough on people? >> well, it certainly takes that but it also takes a knowledge of the legislative process. he knows every in and out. you know, he knows how to get in passing the civil rights bill. there's a moment where we all talk about the senate filibuster and that's going to be hard to break. but johnson realizes what the south is doing is stopping the bill from ever getting to the senate. it's buried in a house committee and the chairman won't let it out. johnson realizes the thing he

has to do now after kennedy's assassination is get this bill out of the house committee first. and he figures out a way to do that. >> did he ever have a strategy for getting along better with the kennedys? >> no, lyndon johnson and the kennedys is a poignant story, but the answer to your question is no. you know, the story of lyndon johnson and robert kennedy, as a historian you hate to use very loaded words like "hatred," but hatred is not too strong a word to talk about lyndon johnson and bobby kennedy. >> how much did vietnam haunt lbj to the end? >> well, it haunted him to the end. you know, when he was in retirement back in texas, because he didn't run again in '68, he would talk to people about how the kids sang outside the white house what he called that horrible song. hey, hey, lbj, how many kids did

you kill today. you know, you can hear that song, because pennsylvania avenue wasn't cordoned off then. you could hear that in the white house where he was living. so i mean it dealt with him to the end of his life and of course it colors his legacy in history and will always color his legacy in history. >> we opened the interview with as an autocratic, authoritative guy got things down. let's bring that to life. contrasting him to obama who does not have those skills. he would not be able to cope with the media today and be completely ineffective. >> well, the thing about political genius is that it always finds a way. you don't know what the way is. johnson whenever throughout his -- until you get to vietnam where he can't find the way and it casts this pall over everything, he finds a way.

first when he's in the senate. you know, no senator majority leader has ever really led the senate, really controlled the senate. the senate before lyndon johnson was the same dysfunctional senate that it is today. he comes in, he's majority leader for six years. and for six years the senate works. it is the center of governmental ingenuity and creativity in washington. he leaves, mike mansfield becomes the leader and it impose right back for being the senate of today. >> and i love what you just said. genius finds a way. people that speak about congress today or the presidency today, like it is the end of history and it will never be functioning today, don't understand there are other geniuses out there that know how to actually turn the levers and make it work. >> yes. that's what -- if there's anything history teaches us, it's that someone will come along, a franklin roosevelt, a

lyndon johnson, and all of a sudden everything that has been stopped, starts to go. >> exactly. >> the book is "the years of lyndon johnson, the passage of power," out now in paperback. robert caro, thank you so much. it's great to see you again. stay with us, we'll be right back with much more "morning joe." this is the first power plant in the country to combine solar and natural gas at the same location. during the day, we generate as much electricity as we can using solar.

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all right. so i wanted to show you this shot. this is kill devil hills, north carolina, where beachgoers are trying to soak in some sun before they get affected by hurricane arthur. >> looks like that umbrella is already affected. >> but the winds have already interfered. >> that one guy is impervious, though. look at that one man. stick a mic in his face. >> that's not breaking the uv waves. >> can we just keep this shot until the last piece of that umbrella blows away? >> it's bizarrely fascinating. >> it is. i'm intoxicated by this shot. anyway, we will keep an eye on that as our live action news team continues to follow the details from kill devil hills. but it is a pretty day, you can't blame people from trying to get out there. but let's not cry over that shot, let's cry about something

else because we have video of a japan politician struggling to explain away his extravagant use of public funds. it's really gone viral because of his emotional reaction. [ speaking foreign language ] poor guy, right? he's 47. 47 years old. he's accused of using public funds on 195 different trips in a year, including more than 100 visits to a hot springs resort. but he's very sorry for it. after a two-month stint in rehab, toronto mayor rob ford returned this week. he's also coming clean on some aspects of his drug use. katy tur has the story. >> reporter: rob ford is back.

>> i had become my own worst enemy. >> reporter: ford, the troubled mayor of canada's largest city, returned from extensive rehab, now admitting for the first time that it was him holding the pipe and smoking crack in those infamous images. >> can you talk about what's going on in this picture? was this the catalyst that sent you to rehab? >> that's why i went to rehab. i've had a disease for a number of years and i was ruining my life. >> and what was happening? >> that's -- i was smoking crack. >> reporter: the embattled mayor's troubles began just over a year ago. he was seen ranting about his detractors in one cell phone video and was reported to be smoking crack in another. ford sought help two months ago, not long after telling matt that he only used crack when drunk. >> the best excuse i heard you

give for using that crack cocaine was i was in a drunken stupor. and i'm wondering is that supposed to make anybody feel better? >> new york city no, not at all. i can't remember it. i was very, very ineastbound yatd. >> reporter: ford said he struggled with addiction issues since taking office in 2000. >> most definitely under the influence of alcohol while in office. >> drinking here? >> yes. but there was no drug use here. >> reporter: when asked, ford also admitted during his personal time his drug use was not just limited to crack. >> so marijuana, heroin, crack, alcohol, the gamut? >> you name it, pretty well covered it. and i was in denial. >> reporter: ford said he is still running for re-election in the fall and maintains he will win. >> wow, very honest interview right there. coming up next, what, if anything, did we learn today? stick around for that.

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♪ ♪ create a better website at squarespace.com start your free trial today. all right, time to tell you what we learned today. let's start down in washington with katty kay. what did you learn? >> like you, i had never heard of moringa. i'm going to go look for those kuli kuli bars. doing good with her business and trying to help the people where she was living before in west africa. >> look at this lineup of gentlemen. it's like a police lineup.

wow. let's start at the end with thomas roberts. >> let me go with katty about these bars. i said i was a dark chocolate guy. black cherry is kbrogrowing on . i like it. >> sam stein? >> you can lose a tooth during a baseball broadcast and still manage to make it through the game. even if your team is losing 16-0. >> as jerry taught us light night. michael steele? >> there's bad weather out but it's not going to keep me from getting my grill and burning this weekend. >> don't burn too much. mark halperin, is it al gore? >> the country is ready for a national debate about al gore versus hillary clinton, past versus future. >> that's good. >> on one martini it's even better. >> i learned this morning that great american louis zamperini died. i hope everybody will read the book and see the movie about this remarkable man's life. >> it's incredible. >> the last thing i want to do,

where's amanda, our wonderful page. get on up here, amanda. she's been with us all summer and before and she's leaving us today. where do you go from here? >> i'm going back to school. >> all right. >> going to pursue medicine and public health. >> so not journalists. she's like i'm out. i am out. >> she's learned a lot. >> we drove her into the arms of the doctors. we loved having you here, thank you so much. >> thank you so much. >> good luck down the road. >> thanks. >> all right, guys. if it's way too early, it's "morning joe." have a great fourth of july. we'll see you back here on monday. well, the first hurricane of 2014 is here. arthur is officially a category 1. and the east coast braces for some july 4th plans that are likely to get postponed. also this morning, where exactly are the independents on this independence day? some key third party players have shaped our history in the last century, but a t