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supplies, batteries, lanterns. >> these are cars right now that are actually leaving the island. it's going to be under water. >> if you are in an evacuation zone and the officials have said it's time to go, it's time to go. >> unless it gets really bad or unless they make us leave, we'll stay. >> don't put your stupid hat on. >> is this world war z. is the apocalypse nigh? no, but it is the first storm of hurricane season. yes, hurricane arthur. it may only be category 1 at this hour but it has got a whole lot of people packing up, stocking up on canned goods, flashlights, maybe even zombie killing axes. with arthur moving toward the outer banks, north carolina's governor is warning people not to get too excited. >> don't put your stupid hat on. usually most injuries occur right before a storm or right after a storm. this is no time to be selfish or pretend to be brave during a storm for short-term adventure. the safety of our citizens and
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visitors is our number one priority. >> what's the smart way to brace for the storm? and is an america that wasn't ready for katrina, wasn't ready for sandy going to be ready next time? we're just learning this moment that president obama has been briefed on the storm. will that conversation turn to long-term preparedness? let's go to an expert on survivalism on this. he's a man who has his flashlights charged, his zombie ax is ready. ayton edwards from the national preparedness network. a big advocate for greater infrastructure for preparedness for storms to come. if any part of the country is braced and ready, it has to be the outer banks. they are pros at this. >> it has to do with the individuals. one of the things people do and they tend to do this all the time is they rely on government to be this all-powerful, i don't know, like father/mother figure that's going to come in and rescue them when in raelts you're kind of on your own. so many people spread over so
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large an area that there's really no way that the responding mechanisms can get to everyone when a ka catastrophy happens. they are their first responder. and that's what people have to learn. >> that's a particularly frightening onus to put on people on a holiday weekend where people are heading out to places like the outer banks. what should those people who are still planning to forge ahead with their holiday plans -- >> no, they have to take this seriously. just because it's called arthur which is like the dudley moore character from the movie doesn't mean it's going to bumble through. it is a hurricane. it can do a tremendous amount of damage. people have to go through the checklists to do the things that are necessary to not only protect their home prorks tect their property, to have a plan in place so that if they have to evacuate they'd know where they are going. they have emergency money. all of the different things they need to have and get those things ready now. not like, you know, and to do it
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for the entire season because this mad rush that people do every year, every time you see a hurricane, running into the stores and clearing off the shelves. the zombie apocalypse stuff. they are watching too much zombie apocalypse shows. they are supposed to plan and do this when there is no hurricane. june 1st is the beginning of hurricane season. it's going to be all year long. people need to take this time not only to plan for this storm but to plan for the entire season instead of like, it's over now. it's back to partying. >> no one could accuse you of partying and not planning. we saw your checklist of preparedness. you've also designed some preparedness kit. take a look at this. one of the ones that intrigued us most. do we have a blueprint for the -- >> well, no, you are looking at the -- i designed a home that you can manufacture out of plastic and waste materials and that you can -- it's hurricane resistant. it's a disaster resistant home. a bunch of things i design. i also design gear.
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stuff you can buy off the shelves. >> we were looking at some of the blueprints for hutches made of corrugated tin with solar power panels on top and all sorts of crazy kits. what do you say to people who look at that and say it's crazy. >> no, it's not. there's a person that may be some of your viewers may be familiar with. buckman fuller. i've been a fan of his since i read operational manuals, spaceship earth when i was in sixth grade. that's my thing. i wanted to pick whereupon he left off. he revolutionized this by utilizing 21st century tools that haven't been applied in a way they should be. there are ways people can prevent the hurricanes -- there's a perfect example. structures that people can purchase that are hurricane -- completely hurricane proof, inexpensive, easy to build and eco-friendly and green. so there's so much available that people don't even know about. >> on a federal level, nasa is
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deploying unmanned drones into hurricanes for the 1st time this year. one of the first areas it seems like america is trying to excel in terms of infrastructure. how helpful do you think that will be? >> it's definitely going to help out a lot. i mean, and tracking it. but the most important thing and i have to stress this. the people prepare themselves for the disaster. nasa can like, yeah, the disaster is coming and they can put the drones up and use thermal cameras and use doppler radar and all these things. but if people aren't prepared for the catastrophe if they aren't prepared for the disaster, they are in the same position. it's great. i know it's coming. but i haven't done anything. and i'm going to wait for the government to take care of me. it's just not going to happen anymore. people have to realize they have to take responsibility for themselves. maybe use some of these 21st century tools. the stuff that -- let's start building the dome structures. let's lay the a-frame as a home that's the past.
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it's technology that's outdated. we've got start -- >> but where do the resource comes from to make us live in geo domes. >> this one company called intershelter that has a dome you can build for $7,000. you can build it in four hours. now it's not perfect, but it's a start. certain things people can do in terms of, if you're going to build a new home, investigate what's available. companies like monolithic domes that's build hurricane-proof domes. it's a company in italy, texas. so there are so many things available to people and they don't know about it. it's time they learn. >> and people can reinforce their basements. they don't have to go to the dome. >> no you can reinforce your basement, fix your home up so they can survive the hurricanes. you can cut down before the hurricanes start. a tree branch that can fall and do damage. a lot of different things people can do to protect their homes from hurricanes. but the thing is we've got to again, i want to stress the responsibility. people have to start to be responsible for themselves and
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take these precautions before the hurricanes. >> we want to see as few americans injured and as little property damage as possible with this storm. thanks for bringing your survival kit. up next, a very different problem in a very different part of the world. after days of violence in israel and the west bank, a skittish calm. can we use this as an opportunity to end the cycle of violence? we have an all-star panel from all sides coming up. ut what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here creates something else as well: jobs all over america. engineering and innovation jobs. advanced safety systems & technology. shipping and manufacturing. across the united states, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. when we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. that's not a coincidence. it's one more part of our commitment to america.
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violence we've been watching since yesterday which east jerusalem now bears the scars of. take a look at some of these images. the graffiti on this shattered light rail reads death to israel, death to jews, price tag. israel says they are not interested in escalating the conflict. with the military spokesman adding they are even getting messages to hamas through back room channels to des- s ts to d. is the leadership on either side capable of this? how do you go about beginning to break that? for more on this, ambassador daniel kertzer, mark, the chief spokesman for netanyahu and diana, a former spokesman for the palestine liberation organization. there are such big stakes for the united states. you are well acquainted with this region. you were ambassador to israel under bush, ambassador to egypt
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under clinton. how involved should the united states be in this conflict at this point, and do we have viable partners to work with on either side? >> well, this is certainly a moment of raw emotion on both sides. both have suffered rather heinous acts of violence. families are mourning, nations are mourning, and it is a goal and a role for the united states to try to help avoid further escalation. we can't solve this problem, however. the two governments involved, the palestinian authority and israel have to act maturely and have to act beyond the scope of the kind of revenge that their populations are seeking. but the united states can certainly help. we can help foster, for example, security dialogue that has been missing over the past couple of weeks and months. we can try to reinstill some hope in the peace process that's
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lie -- but the responsibility will really arrest with the two sides. >> there have been some conservative voices calling for secession of aid. would that be a mistake right now? >> it would be absurd. it's the wrong time to be punitive on either side. the palestinian authority condemned the kidnapping of the three israeli teens. i understand the palestinian security forces offered to help israel find the three teenagers after they were kidnapped. to punish the palestinian authority now would be short sighted and fool hearty and diminish our own capability of helping these two sides get out of the mess. ambassador, appreciate it. mark, did she's israeli strikes overnight and in the day before help or do they risk exacerbating the situation? >> well, we're just trying to defend ourselves. you know, israel is not in the
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gaza strip. we pulled out a few years ago. we took down all the settlements, went back to the '67 borders. but there are extremists, hamas extremists and others in gaza continue for no reason to shoot rockets into israel. we've had 100 over the last month, and the last 24 hours, more than 20. they target, you know, civilians. they target our cities. they target our towns. i saw earlier on msnbc pictures of an apartment building where rockets and people were very frightened. we're lucky no one was killed. the problem here is hamas. i want peace. america supports peace. i believe the palestinian leadership, i hope, wants peace. buha moss is a radical islamic organization. islamist organization that says no to peace, no to reconciliation. it glorified murdering and kidnapped children as we saw earlier this week. they are part of the problem. >> mark, what do you say to people who hear that and say it's not quite proportional.
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these are makeshift rocket attacks versus a concerted heavy hand of one of the more powerful militaries in the world? >> there is no comparison because hamas shoots its rockets indiscriminately into cities to try to kill as many innocent civilians as they can. our response is targeted. we're just trying to hit those rocketeers, those terrorists. we don't target innocent civilians. it's important to understand hamas is part of a family of extremist islamic organizations whether it's isis in iraq and syria or hezbollah in lebanon or the ayatollahs in iran. hamas is stuck in a very, very radical, extreme agenda which says there's no right for the jewish state to exist in any borders and that every israeli civilian, man, woman and child is a legitimate target. we saw that includes children. as i say. so it's very important to say we want peace and it's important to
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understand who are the enemies of peace. they are these islamist extremists like hamas and the others. >> it's clear that hamas is crossing the line and targeting civilians and is as brutal and unacceptable as you say. when you say we don't target civilians, what do you say to reports that they have targeted hospitals within gaza? >> no. that's not correct. you have to know that the hamas terrorists have deliberately used, and it's a double war crime. they embed themselves in civilian population and they use the gaza civilians as a human shield as they shoot their rockets into israel. during the last round of fighting it was well documented afterwards. hamas set up their headquarters in the basement of a hospital. we couldn't attack their headquarters because it was a hospital. they were deliberately using all the patients and doctors and medical staff as a human shield. if anyone in the hospital would have complained about that to hamas you can be sure hamas
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would have taken that complaint. they don't give the civilian population of gaza a chance. they don't give them a chance to decide. they sacrifice their own civilians on the altar of their extremist jihadist agenda. >> mark, i wish we had more time to talk about the back and forth on this. i wanted to get you on the record before we part ways. all these reports that the supposed master mind of a lot of these hamas kidnappings is in turkey. how is that going to affect israel's relationship with turkey, and is he, indeed, a target of israel's? >> people who are involved in terrorist attacks against israeli civilians, they are from our point of view, we want to bring them to justice. the two people we're looking for are two activists who we know are directly involved in the kidnapping and murder of those three young men who were killed. and were buried earlier this week.
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we have to know -- the terrorists have to know that if they are committing these war crimes if they are attacking and killing innocent civilians, that the long arm of justice will meet them and we'll catch them and we'll punish them. we'll send them to jail if we can. otherwise, we'll have to take them out in other ways. >> mark, i appreciate your time. diana, i wanted to get your take as well. palestinian authority president mahmoud abbas signed this unity pact with hamas back in april. there's been a lot of international blowback to that. there's a lot of thinking he has less power in the wake of that pact to curb the violence. what do you say to that? >> well, i think it's very clear that israel had ample opportunity to try to forge an agreement with mahmoud abbas. there was no agreement between abbas and hamas for a period of more than seven years. and they inted of using this opportunity to reach an agreement with the palestinian government, they instead came up with many, many excuses. in fact, thousands of them in the form of settlement units to say they weren't going to reach
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any agreement with the palestinians. and it's for this very reason that we don't see an agreement. and i think it's important to keep in mind and put this in context. we hear a great deal about violence. but we don't hear about what the root causes of the violence are. and the root cause is the fact that palestinians for more than four decades have been denied their freedom and whether it's the israelis doing it directly or the brutal military occupation they live on on a day-to-day basis. palestinians on a day-to-day basis are subjected to violence. we simply don't hear about it in the west. is it the cessation of settlements? what's the first step? >> i thing first step is for israel to recognize that this is about occupation. for the world to put into place measures to end that occupation. and for israel to be held to account for this occupation. sanctions are absolutely necessary. the settlements are only one small part of it. but the fact they've been unwilling to move on the settlements and have instead increased the number of settlements threefold since the
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start of the negotiations process from 200,000 settlers to nearly 700,000 settlers indicates to me that israel simply is unwilling to actually reach an agreement with the palestinians. >> diana, every time we see the brutality of hamas' practices, doesn't it give israel a further ca carte blanche to proceed along those lines? >> they had a cease-fire agreement in place. it was the ones -- israel who breached it. getting back to this specific incident, there's absolutely no evidence other than what israel has stated as being evidence that hamas was responsible for the kidnapping, killing of these three israelis. this is why the president himself had called for an investigation. he indicated that he wanted to cooperate on the investigation as well. and instead what israel did, rather than carrying out an investigation with the palestinians was that they found these men guilty without even ever capturing them. they tried them and convicted them without even having a court of law. and they've already demolished
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their houses. this is the type of justice that israelmeting out. what is the underliying atmosphere that they've created. >> where there is blame along the lines you are talking about, there is also a brutality of practices again and again that exacerbates that. it's an extremism in the leadership on both sides that i think is crushing for the world to watch and i know for all of the human beings caught in the crossfire. just ahead on "r.f. daily," a very different dilemma. you see yourself in a wildly successful video game. would you be flattered or would you maybe file a lawsuit? we'll tell you which celebrity is making that tough decision after the break. nnouncer ] if yd a dollar for every dollar car insurance companies say they'll save you by switching, you'd have, like, a ton of dollars. but how are they saving you those dollars? a lot of companies might answer "um" or "no comment." then there's esurance. born online, raised by technology
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"parenttrap" "freaky friday" and "mean girls." does she look like this digital woman? according to lindsay, she does. this is from "grand theft auto 5." excellent game. lohan filed a lawsuit this week. she says the game rips off her image, using her likeness without her permission for one minor character. it's a spoiled celebrity named lacy jonas. in one brief mission, lacy is driven around by the player to escape from the paps while tree drops sweet nothings like i'm the voice of a generation and a few other things. take a listen actually. >> look at those lunatics. can you imagine what it's like being this famous? i'm the closest thing to royalty these people have. >> i feel you parody lindsey. joining us is ann bremer. ann, i've got nothing but sympathy for miss lohan, but i've got to fault her lawyers here. you are far more a lawyer than
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i. you are practicing. but just my lay person's read is this is protected parody. >> you don't really have a right to control the way that people play you out as a celebrity. it's parody. there was a parody of me in one of my cases that called me the kim kardashian of lawyers. i was like, does that have something to do with my rear snend i'm not sure. i can't control that. she's saying if you're going to use my image commercially and make money off of it, i have a right to publicity. my right to publicity is to control that. that's part of what she is saying. but i agree with you. >> it's not just parody. it's also a minor mission in the game for a few minutes. it's not on the marketing material. they aren't making a dime off of it. i appreciate your take on that. a real lawyer weighing in on a real legal question. >> a real interesting question. >> stick around because we have other very weighty legal questions ahead right ahead. we've got a court hearing getting under way in a case that's caught the attention of the nation. and especially of parents all
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any minute now in an atlanta courtroom, new evidence is expected in a case that's had a lot of us transfixed around the country. they could change the way we look at digital evidence. that case is the death of a 22-month-old boy left alone inside a scorching suv for seven hours. his father justin ross harris has plead not guilty to charges of murder and child cruelty. we're not usually on the crime beat here but here's something that makes this case different. the key incriminating factor here, a digital paper trail. police allege both parents in fact, searched for the temperature it would take to
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kill a child in a hot car. so are preemptive searches on google, digital histories that don't necessarily amount to actions in and of themselves persuasive in court? joining me is former prosecutor anne bremner. thanks for coming back. >> thank you. >> this is an interesting new digital question. it's a brave new world for prosecutors wielding this kind of evidence. how persuasive is it to jurys? >> something like this is like a tell-tale heart. it says what is the intent of the person. if you are going to search and say, how long does it take for a child to die in a hot car and then that happens, it's not coincidence. it's showing their intent, their premeditation and their thoughts. remember we had this in the casey anthony case. she searched for chloroform, although that didn't carry the day with the jury. it's still compelling evidence. >> you can search preemptively to protectior child on this issue. he has already suggested in some early comments and may end up arguing in court these searches were about protecting his child from exactly this set of
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circumstance that maybe he knew would be coming up. all the facts aren't clear. >> and the prosecutor is going to say, then why didn't you? if you were searching that and how many people really search that, i mean, we have to wonder. how many google hits are there on those kinds of questions. second if you really search that, both of you searched that and yet your child dies? ironically in this fashion? you have to really think, let's flip it over and say you were really looking to see what it would take to kill the child. that's what the prosecutor would say and that's what i'd say if i were the prosecutor. >> i guess what makes this kind of evidence different is that we're all so free with our searches. this harkens back to the other recent bombshell case, the cannibal cop case in new york. this individual who had searched and had written digitally about fantasies of killing and eating women. and he was recently let out of jail when a judge said you can't convict on the basis of fantasy that didn't rise to action. so it really is a fine line here. >> that's an excellent point.
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in that case he had bizarre intricate involved fantasies. and i can see where the court was coming from on that. but this, i think, is markedly different in the fact it's a little more basic. that's not a fantasy. it's like we're trying to protect the child. i don't know if they can make the same case as the cannibal cop. lawyers and painters can turn black to white. i'm sure the lawyer will make compelling cases. >> it's a great profession. >> yeah, it is. >> i do respect in this case it really is a legal frontier that needs to be hashed out. >> that's right. >> one of the big issues is the liability of the mother. she hasn't been charged with a crime at this point. the warrants are implicating near doing similar searches. what's the legal issue there? can she actually be pulled into this for having searched for it as well, even though she wasn't there at the time of the crime? >> probably not. it goes back to the fantasy that you can't be punished for your thoughts. that you think you are going to do something but you dont do it. it's not a crime. but if she was complicit, like
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you are in for a dime in for a dollar. if she was complicit with her husband in any way in planning this or participating, then she could be guilty as a principle of murder, just like he is. there's got to be that nexus. just because she's searching -- it's interesting they are both doing it. you have to think if they did this if the child died and they intended to do it, that they may have been in it together which would be really bizarre for two parents to do something like that's to a child. stranger things happen in criminal law. >> it's a compelling case. it's heartbreaking. it is unlike anything we see typically. that's why we're watching it so closely. we'll keep an eye on what's happening in that courtroom. anne bremner, thank you. stick around. we've got another legal struggle coming up next. the latest frontier in the fight over health care. and the consequences of dropping the ball on that fight. a phenomenon called mountain dew mouth is part of it. rotting scores of mouthses in appalachia. you won't believe how this fits into the national debate. stay with us.
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a good deed seldom goes unpunished. health care reforms continues to be the most punishing of all the good deeds in america. obamacare is delivering health care for millions but it's more embattled than ever. and that could get even worse. the d.c. circuit court of afrks peels is expected to rule on a case that could be way more devastating than that hobby lobby ruling earlier this week. the issue -- whether the federal obamacare exchange, not just the state-run ones can offer tax breaks to low income americans who sign up. since many opted to use that federal system this could make obamacare unaffordable for millions of americans. what does america look like if we drop the dream of affordable health care? joining me is dr. corey abar from the lsu health sciences center. back with me is attorney anne bremner. let's look at this case first.
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how significant could it be? if states opted to use the federal exchange can't offer these tax credits will so many low-income americans be able to unafford the system that the system itself might struggle to survive. >> yeah. this is a problem of numbers. you can only support the system by numbers. you have 34 states that didn't opt in. there's a real problem. we've heard the -- this could be the equivalent of a nuclear bomb, vis-a-vis health care. >> with obamacare struggling to come into its own, how urge cent the need for more access to health care? how have things changed since obamcare came into being? >> things have been great since obamacare has come into being because people who didn't have health care actually have it. it's as simple as that. when people are coming to our offices and saying they haven't seen a doctor in ten years, and now they are actually getting health care, the reality is that it is preventing so many people
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from having serious illnesses that is causing taxpayers tons and tons of money because we're preventing all this stuff now. if we can get someone on cholesterol lowering medications before they have a heart attack, that does a lot for the person and the federal government. >> that's right. it saves all of us costs in the long run if we're not relying on the most expensive kind of care, emergency care. one of the most interesting bellwethers for the state of health care is something you might not expect. it's in your head. literally. through our partnership with the data mining firm vocativ we got a look at how urgent the need to access to health care is. it's through the lens of america's teeth. take a look. >> i need everybody up here close. everybody that's got a number, i
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want you to come up here. we're only going to talk one time. come on. >> listen to me. one second. listen up. i'm not saying you're not going to be seen today but right now, we are at the max of what the dental capacity that we can take. but we're going to bring you all in, if you are here for dental. we're still going to bring you in. but right now, we have five dentists that did not show up that promised to be here today. it's not your fault that you're not going to get seen. come on in. we'll get you on in. we'll get you in here and get you processed. and then at the end of the day, i won't let you sit there too long. when i see you're not going to get seened i'll sign your paper n get you back out of here but be back in here by 5:45 in the morning. >> here in the united states, we have the best health care, the best technology, probably the best practitioners. but the problem is, only a few can afford it.
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>> i slept in my car with a blanket and, well, my friend was snoring, so i didn't sleep too much. i mean, i think we'd do anything to get the help we're going to get here today. >> i'm here to get my teeth capped and get the cavities fixed and maybe a little bit more whiter, i guess, cleaning, too. >> jobs. jobs are a big challenge around here. >> we do have jobs like the coal mine, factories all over that offer decent health insurance and group insurance. >> definitely is hard to find work here. my fiance works out of state because he couldn't find a job here. that's the only thing that sucks about living here is that job opportunities are very skim. >> without these people here, the people that live in this town will get no health. it's obvious when i'm sure there's been at least 400 here today and there will be 400 tomorrow. if they were here every day there would be 400 every day. >> it's quite expensive to
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actually afford health care and dental care. if it's coming out of your pocket, then a lot of people tend to not want to go for it. >> so talking about anything around 48, 50 million people that don't have insurance can't afford to go to the dentist. it felt like a lot of hope in that parking lot. people were turning their cars on and off to keep warm. walking to the other end of the parking lot for the bathsroom. i didn't see anybody complaining about it or seeming sad. people feeling hopeful that today, foonlly, somebody is going to care about what they are going through in this town. >> i can't go with my teeth looking bad. i can't. >> i guess i feel like i smile a lot less with the -- my teeth the way they are, not like i used to when they were straight and pretty. >> i used to wait tables here, we'd go through a lot of pop. and tea. >> people that typically consume
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these drinks consume about 410 grams of sugar in a day. that's a lot of sugar. you've almost got one pound a day just in your drink choices. >> some people have little teeth left. i heard the lady behind me said she's getting all hers pulled out. and another woman behind me didn't have one good tooth in her head. >> it's common to have to do a full mouth extraction. there's a very popular drink in the united states and it's particularly popular down here in the south. we say, we look at a patient's mouth and we say, uh-oh, this is a clear case of -- >> mountain dew mouth is a term where kids from 3 up just drink soda and it just eats away their mouth. >> to me when i drink mountain dew it's kind of like a salty, like a -- this will sound gross but kind of tastes like a dirty sock. but my fiance drinks it like it's water. >> we see people who are giving
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a baby that drink in the baby bottle. >> a lot of parents are giving sodas and things like that to their children because they are cheaper. with mountain dew, just a 4-year-old or 5-year-old walking around with mountain due in his hand. the parents aren't thinking about what it's going to do to their teeth. >> one of the problems around here. there's a lot of drug problems in this area. and the meth people, their teeth rot out if you are doing a lot of pills your teeth rot out. >> i've done my fair share back when i was younger on both of them, but i straightened up. nobody wants to walk around with -- >> i love to smile and i -- >> just everything they are doing here is needed so much. and the people here really appreciate it. >> so much pride in west virginia. this is one thing i'm very embarrassed about. being a dentist and leading the nation in tooth loss. i need to change it. whatever we can do.
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>> so maybe don't do the dew. back with me, dr. corey aybar and anne bremner. this is an interesting facet of the health care dilemma. obamcare doesn't have any, well, teeth, when it comes to dental plans. they require children's dental health but there's no adult requirement. and that's led to a situation where nowa 85 million people across the country just don't have dental coverage and, therefore, foregoing visits because of the cost. that can lead to serious issues. it's not just a cosmetic issue. should this more have been on the table during the health care debate? >> i think that a lot of things were left off, but, you know, when we talk about dental disease being a number one chronic illness and obama care documents don't necessarily, you know, have something that's
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embedded in every state's exchange, that's a little bit concerning. but we know that what's going to happen is that these things, they have to come to a head. and these children are going to get care. the problem is 85 million adults that actually don't have dental care because that's a number one cause of missed school, missed work. you know, emergency department overuse. it's a mess. >> and as obamacare winds its way through the courts and faces all these challenges, do you see it potentially expanding to include these kinds of facets of the health care challenge or constricting more and more as we've seen already? >> that's a great question. what we generally see are the court's striking of certain things, restrictions of certain things. dental is so important as the doctor just said. it can lead to death readily. what we have to look at is separation of powers. you have the president with his role. the legislature with their role. and, of course, the courts. and their job is to stand by the law, to interpret the law and to
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make sure that it's valid. and so that's how our country works. and i think it will work with obamacare, but as you say, this is basically winding its way through the courts. it was in the u.s. supreme court and in the d.c. circuit for a very big case. >> looking at those human stories it makes it clear why the president's fight on this was so worth it. dr. corey her bert and anne bremner, thank you. we've been looking at the issue of concussions. now we're going to take it to the next pro level. american football. the author of "league of denial" about the nfl's secret concussion issues, challenges, conspiracy. he's going to be with us right up ahead. to build something . ♪ some come here to build something stronger. others come to build something faster... something safer... something greener. something the whole world can share. people come to boeing to do many different things.
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injuries. and i'm not talking about the knees and the -- you know, all of that stuff is a given. but from a neurological standpoint, you're going to have -- you're going to have some brain trauma. >> that was a clip from the pbs documentary. the nfl is now settling with thousands of players for a cool $775,000. we've been talking about this all week. a serious -- surprisingly serious to many health problem. joining me now is the sports writer and co-author of the book "league of denial" from which that documentary was based. do you think other pro athletes and pro sports are maybe going to follow suit? >> i think we're already seeing that ronan.
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there's been a spade of lawsuits before and after this class action litigation was filed by more than 4,000 former nfl players. and i think what's happening is the science is sort of catching up with the sports and people are realizing that these are very serious injuries. people are taking a hard look at what institutions like the nfl have done about this issue and in the case of the nfl, what we found was that the nfl had essentially buried the issue for a period of two decades and tried to tell former players that concussions were not major injuries and there was no real risk of long-term repercussions mentally. >> one passage from your book describ describes that, troy aikman had a concussion so bad while he was
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playing for his high school team. how can people learn from those examples and make sure that they are not having the wool pulled over their eyes? >> i think it's incumbent upon the people who are supporting youth sports, to make parents and kids aware that these are serious injuries. that if you get a concussion, if you get dizzy while playing the sport, you need to stop playing while that clears and you're checked out by a medical personnel. that message, i think, is being handed down to the youth leagues now but i still think the culture of these sports, particularly football, it's a culture of violence and it's going to be a very difficult message, i think, to imbed in the culture of these sports. >> it's a great game but has stakes that are potentially deadly. steve, i really appreciate you joining us on this. >> all week we've been asking you to help raise awareness on
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the epidemic. the cdc says the most important thing to do is to get the facts out there. a lot of you have done just that. you've signed on to our list and you've all tweeted your responses. william tweeted at us that when he was a sophomore in high school, his team got helmets with a thin layer of padding outside and that nearly eliminated concussions. alexander tweeted that rowing is the greatest sport because it teaches dedication and there are no concussions. so thank you all for participating. we're going to stay with that story and keep your responses coming in and let you know how the various sports leagues that we've talked to are responding to that call. have a happy fourth of july weekend. stay away from the hurricanes. now it's time for joy reid. you stay out of that hurricane. i don't know what i'd do if i lost you? >> i appreciate that, ronan. i'm going to be in new orleans so i'm going to miss it. have a great happy fourth of july weekend. coming up next on "the reid
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the beginning. just the first fight of this system that is going to make its way through. >> hurricane arthur is affecting millions of people along the east coast and could make landfall in the next several hours. we're tracking the storm and we'll tell you how it can affect your holiday weekend. and then, good economic news for your fourth of july. right now, the season's first hurricane is marching towards the eastern seaboard. arthur is strengthening, now predicting to hit the eastern u.s. as a category 2 storm. it's expected to hit the coast of north carolina in a couple of hours. this is on the state's southern coast. high winds are being felt along the region. officials warn the most dangerous part of the storm may be the rip currents for those who ignore warnings. but many people are heeding orders to leave before the storm hits. arthur is already forcing many
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