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out of the blue one day, you have a collect call from an inmate at sing sing correctional facility. okay. >> you think the system works, and we're going to beat this. we didn't. >> he's become my brother. >> i want to see him out. life was cheap that night in new york. two brutal murders just a half mile apart. six people were convicted, including eric glisson. >> you think they read the wrong verdict. >> then, divine intervention. he said, grandma i think this is happening for a reason.
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>> he had been behind bars for two decades, lost his last appeal, and maybe a none could get him into heaven, but could she help him get out of prison. what she helped him do was get a lawyer, and together they hunted for the truth. >> this is one case that has kept me up at night for six years. >> he says, i know you are innocence and i know the guys that committed the crime. >> tonight, will justice finally arrive? >> oh, my god. >> grandma. >> here's "a bronx tale." sing sing correctional facility. the maximum security prison in new york. this is the big house, home to some of the worst of the worst. killers. rapists. drug dealers.
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>> thank you. >> it's not where you would expect to find this gentle woman. >> they call me grandma. >> grandma is sister joanna chan, a none. >> grandma volunteers at the prison, working with inmates in the theater program. she even teaches them chinese. through the years, grandma has helped dozens of men, but she says this inmate here onstage, a convicted killer, has changed her. >> he is just so brave, watching him all these years, i took such courage myself watching him. >> sister joanna remembers watching him. >> he said my family send me 30 pounds of food, and i said your family must love you very much,
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and he said, yes, because they know i am instant. that's how the story began. >> the story began how the nun and a convicted killer. >> i thought if he was innocent, god has to see him through. >> so who is this convicted murderer? he is inmate, 38-year-old eric chrissin. we met him when a "dateline" producer met eric in his cell. he had been locked up for 18 years. >> you want to see what it's like to live in here. i can touch the walls with my hands. eric told us he did not belong here.
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>> i just was convicted for a crime that i didn't commit, and from february 3rd of 1995 until the present date i have been sitting here every day wondering if this mistake will be corrected. >> we have heard that before, many times. but what if he was telling the truth? >> so over time we began visiting eric. >> looking good. >> and listening to his story. >> i was always under the impression that people who are guilty actually goes to jail, and i did not believe i would be convicted of a crime that i didn't do. >> when the police put cuffs on him, he was 25. >> i have a family, who i love, and who loves me. my daughter, i need to get home to her and be a father.
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>> eric often shared his story with sister joanna, and over time she felt compelled to do anything for him, so she called the only lawyer she knew. >> the first person i could think of was mr. peter cross. >> for me it was investing my time in. >> this is not the law you normally practice? >> no, not at all. i am a corporate lawyer and do corporate litigation and don't do criminal law. >> sharmane is peter's assistant. >> one day i get a call saying you have a collect call. i was like, okay >> she found herself spending hours on the phone with her inmate. by the time you talk to somebody every day, the personal things start to slip in.
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>> friendship. >> friendship. >> in the meantime her boss was checking out eric's claims of innocence. >> did you believe him at the beginning? >> not that i disbelieved him, but i have been practicing law for a long time, okay? >> and people lie? >> and people certainly color the truth. i approached it with skepticism. >> once cross learned the facts, he agreed to take eric's case at no charge, representing a man that did not seem hardened by prison, but almost frightened. >> it's terrifying, because you could be walking in the yard and be shanked. that's the life in prison. >> a life he has lived for nearly two decades. a story he was telling us, if true, was as explosive as it was tragic. >> it turns out the police and the district attorney had all the evidence at their disposal to solve the crime from the
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beginning. >> not only was eric insisting he was wrongfully convicted, he says others, too, all locked away for the same crime. >> five other people convicted of this crime. >> six people. could all of them be innocent? to find out we'll go back almost two decades and take a hard look at how it all began. >> is it possible to get something so important so wrong about so many people? when we come back, we investigate what the police didn't to find out what one witness really saw from her window the day of the murder. >> how the detectives could have decided to run with this still shocks me today.
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within the walls of sing sing, a convicted murderer convinced a nun and a corporate lawyer that there has been a terrible miscarriage of justice. eric glisan is in his 18th year of a 25-year life sentence. he claims he is innocent. >> you have been to prison before this? >> no. >> what is it like to live in prison? >> it's hell. >> eric's nightmare began on the night of january 18th, 1995. the new york city detectives lining this hallway in the bronx were entering a crime scene as chilling as it was violent. >> she had three pair of handcuffs on her wrists. >> she was an executive with fedex. cops videoed the entire scene and anything that might seem important. a wallet with missing cards.
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a carton of juice in the sink. an audiocassette on the bedroom floor. it had been ripped out of her answering machine. >> unfortunately i am unavailable to answer your call right now. >> detectives are mystified over a killing. >> the case went to a 20-year veteran. he led a team of detectives that knocked on the doors and collected evidence, and some of the cops turned their attention to another murder, another bloody crime scene. this is the video police recorded of that second murder scene. it was seemingly unrelated but just half a mile away in the same precinct. this was a busy night for the murder business in the bronx. >> the time now is approximately 7:15 a.m. on january 19th, 1995. >> this time a cabdriver had been slumped over his steering
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wheel shot multiple times, the victim of an apparent robbery. the driver's money and cell phone were missing. the investigation of the cabdriver's murder would be headed by detective mike donnelly, who worked aside ialla. they ended up putting their heads and cases together, concluding the same group of people committed both murders. >> did you know the other people? >> two of them. >> from the neighborhood? >> from the neighborhood. >> these are good friends of yours? >> acquaintances. >> just guys you saw around? >> yes. >> one of those guys was 19-year-old michael cosme. he was the only one to be videotaped by police. >> i will read you the rights again -- >> i have one thing to say. i am innocent.
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i did not do it and i was not there and i was in my house asleep. >> detectives didn't believe him, and he was arrested for both murders. and days later so was eric. by the time eric went to trial, prosecutors dropped charges against him in the denise raymond case citing lack of evidence, so what evidence was there against him in the cabdriver case? >> it was really pretty simple. there was a witness against him. her name? miriam tavares. she said she looked out her window and saw it all, smack in the middle of the murder of the cabdriver. >> was it possible she saw you? >> no, i was not there. >> bad blood? >> yes, bad blood. >> eric had a brief sexual
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relationship with her that did not end well. >> you had a fling with a girl and cut it off abruptly, and she may feel slighted. >> slighted enough to make you a murder suspect? >> i guess so. >> the question is how reliable was she as a witness? all of these years later, eric finally had somebody to take another look at miriam's story. attorney peter cross. >> no doubt this woman was lying. i went out to the crime scene and she could not possibly have seen what she said occurred. >> so what could miriam really see? here is the problem with her story. from that police video we know this is where the cab came to rest. we also know the shooting happened a couple car lengths back where the red suv is, and we know a man in that building called 911 when he heard the shots and he said he saw only one person running away from the
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scene. now, a couple weeks later, miriam tavares comes forward and she lives in that building over there. now you are looking at me from just outside the window through which miriam says she said she saw it all happened, and she said she saw six people from the neighborhood commit the crime. she said she heard what they said and saw what they stole and she said she saw all of it looking through this bathroom window. the only problem is, if you go back to where the shooting actually happened, it's pretty clear miriam could not have seen anything at all. >> she said from her bathroom window she heard these conversations going on inside the car. it's just incredible testimony. >> but detective donnelly never looked at the crime scene from the perspective you just did. >> wouldn't that sort of be standard operating procedure to check out what witnesses say? >> you would think so. i think they got on the horse early on in the case and they rode that horse and were not
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going to change direction. >> we wanted to speak to miriam, and she died of a drug overdose in 2002, and other than her testimony there was no prints or forensic evidence that tied eric or the others to the cabdriver's murder. even so the detectives went with what they had and closed both murder cases. >> the bronx district attorney tried the cases, and in all six people were convicted, and we'll call them the bronx six, five man and a woman all sent away facing 25 to life. one of them was eric glisan. >> what is it like to hear that verdict read? >> it's like a shot in the chest. it's like your heart just melts. it just dissolves. you think they read the wrong verdict, that this can't be true.
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>> the nypd was quite proud of their detectives' work, and five months after the arrests the department allowed the detectives to be featured in a magazine about how they cracked the cases. >> how they believed that and decided to run with this and send them to jail for the rest of their lives on the basis of this garbage still shocks me today. >> all these years later, attorney cross knew his opinion in the case was not going to free eric. >> the only evidence that will sway a court is if we can point to who the real killers are. >> that was quite a lot to hope for. but from behind bars, eric glisson was already on the trail. >> i got documents, so i see this guy gilbert's name keep coming up. next, a surprise visitor and an answered prayer.
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these are the people we are calling the bronx six. five men and a woman, all convicted and sent away for life for committing murder, and all insisted they were innocent. we met eric at sing sing and he has been trying to get answers since he was locked up. >> i have been fighting these people for years asking for documents, which they denied me every time. >> how many people said, look, this is going to go easier if you stop fighting this and you accept the sentence you have been given and try to get parole? >> i look around me every day, and i see a lot of these guys become complacent. >> well, that's easy to understand. >> you are not going to convict me for something that i didn't
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do and expect me to accept it. i will fight to the end. i am a fighter, and i die on my feet and not on my knees. >> as the years passed eric took college courses in prison and learned about the law and the court denied all of his appeals. >> i don't have any appeals left. nothing. >> it was a lonely fight, and then in 2006, he met sister joanna chan in one of the prison's programs, the woman he calls grandma. >> it was a particular dark time. he would say, grandma, it's really hard. >> i told her, grandma, i just lost my last appeal and i don't know what i am going to do. >> and i say, eric, let's keep the faith and go and pray and we have many, many sisters praying with you. >> sister joanna offered more than prayers, and that's when
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she brought in peter cross who was fighting for eric on the outside. >> so you have detective donnelly as the officer assigned. >> with eric as his guide, cross got up to speed and found troubling information about how the detectives connected the murders, and it was through this witness, kathy gomez. cross tracked her down and videotaped his interview with her. >> i am here with you -- >> gomez, who was 16 at the time of the murder said she first came in contact with the detective for only one reason, and she was friends of mayoram who spoke only spanish. but by the time she left she became the key witness in the fedex murder. gomez signed a sworn statement claiming she overheard the same
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suspects talking about details of both crimes that only the killers or the cops would know. >> tell me if you recognize your signature on that document? >> yeah, that's my signature. >> here is the problem. it's a crime kathy now says she knew nothing about it. >> i even told him. i even told him, i didn't see nothing like that. >> what is more, gomez she could hardly read or write english. >> well, i couldn't read english, and i had to sign it, and you don't have nothing to do with it. >> she told me that entire statement was prepared by the police and she signed it without knowing even what was in it. >> even so gomez did testify now saying she only took the stand because she says detectives threatened to arrest her if she refused. >> they put me in handcuffs to take me because i would refuse to go, you know, to court. i was just freaked out, because who wants to be handcuffed or in jail or somebody.
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court transcripts show she attempted suicide as the trial began, but because she did not testify against eric, hour claims all these years later wouldn't help him. to have any chance at having another day in court eric knew he would need powerful evidence, evidence of actual innocence. he started thinking, if he and the other five codefendants had nothing to do with the two murders, then who did? after trying, the documents for the days eric requested came trickling in. >> a document had my name, and one name stood out and it was an individual part of a gang called sex, money, murder. >> eric was on to an important lead. even veteran cops knew those words meant danger.
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>> 1970, october, sex, money, murder became my assignment. >> pete was a detective assigned to take down the gang. >> this was all sex, money, murder territory. >> yeah, we are in the heart of it. >> while he was investigating the gang, an informant told him details of a murder. >> so he went to the 44rd precinct in the south bronx to see if there was truth to the story. >> early 1998 walked in the precinct and into the detective's squad room. i want to know about a cabdriver murder. >> the response? >> nothing fit that description. >> but the informant insisted that murder did happen. >> they came out and said we have nothing that fits that description. >> any conceivable reason why the police department wouldn't tell you the truth?
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>> i thought about that. >> he says the answer might be simple, as far as the nypd was concerned, this homicide was solved and closed. >> the detective may have looked in the open homicide drawer and may have never bothered to look into anything other than that. >> and he soon retired from the nypd not knowing six people have already been convicted. in the meantime, eric was stuck in prison. it was not until 2012, 14 years later that he hit pay dirt and it came in the form of cell phone records. remember, the cabdriver's cell phone had been stolen by whoever killed him. >> i found hundreds of calls after his death. >> the record showed the first call was made from the victim's phone minutes after the shooting. the numbers called trace back to relatives of two sex, money, murder gang members, named jose
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rodriguez and gilbert vaga. eric felt he had evidence of who the killers were. >> it took me 16 or 17 years to get those through freedom of information. >> the district attorney had all the evidence to solve the crime from the beginning. >> he wrote a letter to the u.s. attorney detailing the information he found out about the sex, money, murder gang. it was a hail mary pass. in an amazing stroke of luck, his letter landed on this man's desk, a u.s. investigator for new york, john o'malley. o'malley made a personal trip to see eric in sing sing. >> immediately john o'malley just stood up and asked me, did you write this letter? i said, yes. he shook my hand and said, i am sorry. i said, sorry for what?
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he said, i know you are innocent. i said, what are you talking about? he said, i know the guys that committed this crime. >> how did john o'malley know? he worked with the detective on the gang case ten years earlier, and back then the two gang members, jose and gilbert actually confessed the cabdriver shooting to o'malley. he said when i read the letter everything came back to me from that day, i put it altogether when these guys confessed to me. john o'malley did not want to appear on camera but told us he also checked with the nypd after getting those confessions back in 2002, and o'malley was told there was no record of the crime. after getting eric's letter in 2012, o'malley addressed the court in a sworn affidavit stating that eric glisson and the others were innocent of the cabdriver shooting.
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armed with that kind of statement, you would think eric would be literally home free. you would be wrong. coming up, eric glisson isn't giving up. >> this is my wall of hope. everybody here has been unjustly convicted and free. >> will his own picture ever be on it? >> tears welled up in my eyes. >> when "a bronx tale" continues. when you run a business, you can't settle for slow.
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for the first time in his 18-year struggle to prove that he didn't pull a trigger, eric glisson finally had his hands on a smoking gun. an affidavit from a federal investigator said eric was innocent. >> he asked if i had an attorney and i said, yeah, and he said, i promise you i will call him today. >> peter cross remembers that phone call. >> mr. o'malley says, peter, i am with the u.s. attorneys' office and we know your client is innocent. >> i thank god every day for john o'malley. when i looked in that man's eyes, i seen a man who has
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integrity and a man who was honest. >> o'malley's affidavit was enough for the bronx da to re-open the case and to get in front of a judge, but that would take time. two more months. but now at least eric had reason to hope, and in his cell he assembled a little photo gallery of others who had been exonerated. >> this is my wall of hope. everybody here has been unjustly convicted and freed. >> on august 5th, 2012, eric's lawyer goes to court. cross is joined by his assistant, and by now they have worked on eric's case for six years. >> i want to see him out. i told him the last time i went up to sing sing, i said i am not visiting you again. this is it. >> cross argues his case to the judge. >> my client has spent 17 years plus in jail for a crime he didn't commit.
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>> prosecutors do not admit there has been a terrible mistake. >> we will be seeking time. >> how much? >> 30 days. >> another month. cross is frustrated. >> they told me they were starting their investigation in june. i was able to get my papers ready. seems to me another couple weeks should be enough to get a response to the motion. >> you heard the saying that the wheels of justice grind slowly? now you have a front row seat. >> we have been trying to put together facts and circumstances surrounding this 15-year-old case. >> translation? >> this is not going to end today. eric stays in prison. two weeks later, peter cross heads to sing sing. earlier that morning he had gotten a call from the da's
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office and has good news for eric. >> i received a call from the da in the bronx telling me that they were ready to make a deal. i am going up now to see eric and talk to him about the conditions for his release. >> eric is used to visits from his lawyer. >> good to see you. >> and very hope to keeping his own hopes on ice. >> did they get you out of the yard? >> yeah, been outrunning and jogging. >> you know i wouldn't be coming up here -- >> cross wants to make sure this sinks in, and so he slowly reveals the details. i was very surprised today. i got a call today saying that we have a proposal for you. the da is now prepared to give you a conditional dismissal of the indictment and vacate the conviction. >> today? >> it's not going to be today, but it will be by 13th, i think.
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can you believe that? >> it has not set in yet. the initial shock. >> i know. >> all the fighting we have done over these years. my heart is beating so fast. i don't know what -- >> i am very happy for you. >> you try to prepare yourself for this day when you are doing all the detective work and putting pieces together, and you know, you try to imagine what it will feel like because you look at all of the newspaper articles, and on my wall i have a whole panel of every single newspaper article of every guy released from prison and i said one day, i will make that wall, too, and now i am. unfortunately for eric, a
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month later he is still behind bars. >> these people just don't want to let me go. they want to continue to hold me and torture me. you know, the mental trauma i am going through right now because of this, i am wondering whether they will renege on the agreement. >> but eric shares with us something beyond that wall of hope that helped him wake up every morning. >> there is a bench by the water and each time i go to the barbershop i go to the bench and wonder if i will be able to sit on it. that's one of my main goals, to sit on that bench as a free man. coming up -- will eric glisson ever get to sit on the bench. he finally gets his name in court. >> we have a decision to take this unprecedented and exceptional step -- >> when "a bronx tale" continues.
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this bench outside sing sing is only a few hundred yards from the prison, but to eric, it might as well be in china. >> how many times do you look at that bench? >> every day. >> and thinking i will be on there one day? >> don't want to think about what it looks like from the bench to the window, because i know what it looks like from the window to the bench. >> finally four months after a federal investigator vouched for eric's innocence, his day has come. he has been transferred from sing sing and waiting in a holding cell in the bronx county courthouse. >> apparently the court officers
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were advised -- >> it's been a long and painful road for the lawyer, peter cross. >> this is the one case that kept me up late at night for six years, because i knew we had to find like the one-arm man to get him out of jail. >> eric walks in the courtroom. >> eric glisson -- >> standing next to him is kathy watkins, the only woman of the bronx six. like eric, she was tried only for the cabdriver's murder, and in 1997, they went on trial together. eric says he doesn't know her now and didn't know her then. >> when trial started, the officers was bringing us up to the court and one of the officers says, this is watkins, and i said, kathy watkins, and she said who are you? we both didn't know. we was confused. >> now, 18 years later, an
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assistant district attorney says there may have been an injustice, and only will release them if they wear monitoring ankle bracelets. >> we can take this step that we are going to consent to the conditional vacating of the conviction for these two defendants and the condition being they wear the electronic monitoring bracelets. >> all that is left now is for the judge to make it official. >> the record will reflect the conditional vacater as to the conviction of glisson and watkins is granted and each defendant is released on their own recognizance. >> eric's friends and family and the news media are waiting for him outside.
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and now for the first time in nearly two decades, eric glisson is about to take his first steps as a free man. >> eric, what is your emotion right now? >> it's a major pivotal point in my life. i worked hard and persevered and with effort and determination i am standing here before you. >> now it's his codefendant, kathy watkins' turn, also wrongfully convicted. she was 29 when she went away. now she is 46. >> i didn't do it. >> 100% innocent. this is what our judicial system did to me. innocent, all the way. >> by january 2013, the
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convictions for the rest of the bronx six were overturned for both the cab driver murder and fedex executive, denise raymond. this is perez, locked up when he was 24. >> nobody listened. >> devon airs, he was 19 when he was convicted. >> i spent all of my 20s and most of my 30s there, so i am just trying to get on with life as i know it as today. >> and michael cosme, remember him? he was the only one videotaped by police. >> i only have one thing to say, though. i am innocent. i didn't do it. i was not there. >> this is michael today, 18 years later. finally, somebody believed him. while we now know those two gang members confessed to the
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cabdriver murder, the fedex executive's murderers have never been brought to justice. we wanted to speak to the district attorney's office but both declined comment citing the multiple civil suits they face as the bronx six seek millions in damages against new york city. those two detectives that were portrayed as the super suits are now both retired and didn't have anything to say to us. but in court filings, attorneys for the city of new york deny that either directive threatened witnesses or falsified statements and pointed out that several juries heard the witness' testimony at the time and believed them. for eric, it's finally a new day and new life. one full of amazing discoveries. >> hello? >> no, it's upside down.
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>> oh, we went there. >> oh, i seen this in the magazine. oh! >> eric's first few hours of freedom are part exhilaration -- >> hello? hello in >> part discovery. he actually never used a cell phone. >> hello? >> you got it upside down, eric. >> hello? >> no, no, it's upside down. >> huh? >> like this. >> hello? can you hear me now, like the commercial? that was my first cell phone call. first cell phone call. >> his first meal? lamb chops. >> wow. >> it's like jumping up out of a coffin and walking, and it's
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like being read your last rights, and somehow a miracle happens and a doctor comes into the room and knows how to recess tate you and you are back out in society and wondering whether they accept you. yeah, you see -- >> on his first night of freedom, eric's lawyer treats him to a hotel room. >> i got a key that is a plastic card. wow. oh, this is excellent. holy -- whew. wow, that has to be at least a 40-inch tv. a bed. wow! you know, i am used to sleeping
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on a metal frame, and now i am on a comfortable bed. >> but the real joy for eric is reuniting with his daughter, cynthia. >> ready, set, go. >> she was just a week old when he was arrested. now she is nearly 18. >> don't get too excited. >> you cheated. >> the champ. >> you cheated. >> don't tell. >> that degree he started working on behind bars, eric began taking classes again two days after his release. and finally got that long-awaited diploma from mercy college. today a fully exonerated eric glisson is a intrapreneur.
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>> there will be four tables -- >> on the one-year anniversary of his release, eric opens a fresh juice business that he built himself, named fresh take. >> afternoon, sir. how are you doing? >> nice place you have here. >> thanks. >> where did you get fresh take? >> i knew i had a fresh take on life. i am free now. i am no longer the victim. i am the victor, i won. >> you seem to have come through this remarkably free of bitterness and anger or you are hiding it very well? >> i am not good at hiding things. it will always show. when you hide something it will just fester inside you and eventually it will come out. if i held in that animosity that people think i retain or possess, and it would consume me and it would affect me and the
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people around me, and i don't have any animosity for anybody, except for the people that raise strawberries and raise the prices. >> that's a crime? >> yeah. >> he has become my brother. >> it's his lawyer's assistant. they have been in business eight months now. eric says he loves it. >> a big pivotal point in my life. it gave me a lot of truth. >> on this day we had a little surprise for him. he has not seen sister joanna chan since he was released, the woman that put eric on a quest for freedom all those years ago. >> working together collectively -- oh, my god! oh, my god! oh, my god. grandma!
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>> congratulations. >> thank you, grandma. thank you. oh, my god. they told me you were in china. >> i was. >> there was one last thing we wanted to do with eric. remember that bench eric could see from inside sing sing? not too long ago we took him back there. we watched him finally make good on the promise to himself. to get that other view of the prison. this time from the outside.
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>> that's all for now. i am lester holt. thanks for joining us. due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. >> i got 30 years suspended five for probation. if the judge got sentenced to 30 years, you know, he would be freaking out. >> i don't think about the days. i just go day by day. like i go by each meal. try to be good at each meal.
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