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the immigration crisis on the border intensifies. more tenseness as the obama administration vows to act. >> those who come here illegally, our border is not open to illegal migration. >> a new look at what the immigrants face when they return home. who is she? the family of a woman comes forward after a video surfaces of a disturbing scene on a freeway near los angeles. and the security stepped up at airports this weekend. we're going to tell you what prompted the new concerns. hey there, everyone. high noon in the east, 9:00 a.m. out west. welcome to "weekends with alex witt." new today, homeland security secretary jeh johnson says the obama administration is implementing several new actions to deal with the escalating border crisis. >> our message to those who come
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here illegally, our border is not open to illegal migration and we are taking a number of steps to address it including turning people around faster. we've already dramatically reduced the turnaround time, the deportation time. for the adults we're asking this week for supplemental for congress, from congress to bring on additional capacity, and we're cracking down on the smuggling organizations. >> and new sharp words from republican governor rick perry of texas today. his state of course on the front lines of the battle with a surge of undocumented immigrants including unaccompanied children crossing that border into texas. >> this is a failure of diplomacy. this is a failure of leadership from the administration in washington, d.c. we have a huge problem on our southern border. we have to deal with it. and i don't think we're going to be able to address it until you put the resources there. and that's boots on the ground. we're asking the faa to allow for drones to be used. >> joining us now, democratic
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congressman john yarmouth of ken. good to see you. >> good to see you, alex. >> let's talk about these fast-moving developments. we've got the protests and arrests in murrieta, california. the surge of undocumented immigrants crossing the border. that also shows no signs of easing up. and lawmakers are calling for more action. so congressman yarmouth, do you see any viable solutions here in either the short term or the long term? >> well, the long term absolutely. passing comprehensive immigration reform. because that enhances border security, it makes the terms of how you come to the united states somewhat easier if you're coming to work. but it also puts controls on that and also sets up systems for making sure that employers are only hiring legally employable immigrants. we know that the answer's there. we know we have enough votes in the house. the senate's already passed a bipartisan measure. so long term that's the answer. short term i think it's exactly what the administration is
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doing, which is try to ask for new resources, try to speed up the process for processing these immigrants, particularly the children who are engaged in an incredible tragedy. and i hope that the american people don't lose sight of that fact. these children are being manipulated. there's a lot of extortion going on. these families are paying large amounts of money to send these children to the united states. and many of them are leaving to escape violence. there's a human tragedy going on, and we need to keep that in mind as well. >> senator john mccain of arizona's dealing with a crisis in his state there. here's what he's saying about all this as well as immigration reform. >> we will continue the effort, respectful effort to convince our colleagues in the house that we need to move forward on this issue. but it doesn't help when the president says that he's going to -- he has a pen and he has a phone. but we'll continue to make that effort on the grounds of
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security of our border as well as the fact that you cannot deport 11 million people. we need to address the issue. >> your reaction to what he said? >> i agree with most of that. but once again, taking cheap shots at the president is not only misguided but it's factually wrong. as you know, this president has deported more illegal immigrants than any prior administration. he's taking fire from the left and the immigrant community because of that, being called deporter in chief, and he's never said that he's going to take unilateral action to do things on the border or ask for more money. what he's been doing is using prosecutorial discretion, which is clearly within the law, to handle some of these situations. all of that rhetoric and the blame game is not going to get us anywhere. so on the one hand i agree with senator mccain that we need to work together in the house particularly to pass comprehensive reform, but again, playing the blame game is not the right angle.
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>> let's switch and talk about the economy here. some big news to discuss. the dow surpassing 17,000 for the first time last week. also employers adding 288,000 jobs in the month of june, which is far more than expected. however, this is interesting. the latest gallup poll shows only 34% of americans approve of the president's handling of the economy. so how do you explain this disconnect? why isn't president obama getting more credit on the economy? >> alex, i think these polls are kind of meaningless in this day and age. i think what we need to have is kind of a relativity index of confidence. so if congress has confidence of 7% or 8% of the american people and president obama has 34%, that's five times greater. if you probably compare confidence in the president with confidence in corporate ceos and members of the clergy and journalists, you name it, he's probably going to be just as high. the only institution in this country that has any real credibility right now is the
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military. so i take all those with a grain of salt because in this day and age there's so much cynicism out there directed at every institution and every individual that i just think we have to kind of keep that in mind when we're looking at that low number. yes, it's low, but so is everybody else. >> okay. perspective, in other words. >> perspective. >> there's this new video. it is purportedly showing the leader of the extremist group isis. now, i want to say nbc news has not been able to verify the authenticity of this video. also former british prime minister tony blair said this today. let's listen. >> we've got in the short term to push them back as hard as possible. i think the president's right to send help to the iraqis to be helping the syrian opposition, the moderate syrian opposition. but in the longer term we're going to have to get a strategy for the middle east that identifies correctly the problem, which is this extremism, and bears down on it wherever we can, however we can, with the allies we have in the region.
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>> what is your biggest concern right now regarding iraq? >> well, my biggest concern regarding iraq is the worst case scenario is that isis takes over baghdad and basically controls the entire power structure of the country. it doesn't seem likely to happen. but i think mr. blair is absolutely correct. we need some kind of a comprehensive regional summit. the united states needs to convene it if possible. to find out where the people who are willing to help are and what they're willing to do. we can't do this by ourselves. the day is long past when the united states can work its will around the world, and i think more people are beginning to realize that. we can be a force for strong diplomacy and again coalescing interests around the region and the world. and that's what we need to be. that can be our role. if we get the saudis and we get the jordanians and we get all of the leaders of that country who
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want to be helpful to get together and say let's -- what are you willing to do, each of us, and forget about military action from the united states anyway? and i think we have to make it clear to those leaders that the united states has no appetite for this, the american people will not abide another invasion in iraq, but we need collective action, diplomacy, and whether it's economic sanctions, whatever it may be, to take action to create some stability. that's what we really need right now, is stability. >> representative john yarmuth, always a pleasure. thanks so much. >> thanks, alex. some strong and controversial advice for the next v.a secretary. kristen welker is at the white house for us. kristen, what are you hearing from this paper? >> alex, in its editorial the arizona republic calls for the va to get back to its roots and focus on its "historic mission." the paper says that means treating veterans who have
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service-related injuries while one veterans group sharply disagrees and says the paper just doesn't understand the needs of vets. in arizona, the epicenter of the va scandal, a rare front-page editorial published by the "arizona republic's" editorial board. the paper calls on bob mcdonald, the president's pick to lead the va, to downsize the agency, writing "by returning to the va's roots and treating only war and service-related injuries, you will enhance care for all veterans." the board argues veterans with non-service-related issues should seek private sector care. in an interview with nbc affiliate kpnx the opinions page editor says non-combat issues often apply to older vets who are usually prioritized last. >> get them off the bottom of the list, put them someplace where they can get proper treatment on a timely basis. that's going to be more likely to happen in the private sector. >> most of the stuff in this article is quitely ridiculous. >> reporter: tom tarantino of
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iraq and afghanistan veterans of america, says older vets could still be suffering from war-related injuries and worries they'll fall through the cracks if pushed into the private sector. >> the answer to fixing va healthcare isn't screwing over mohr veterans, frankly. the answer to fixing va health care is actually to fix the health care system. >> reporter: the paper also recommends the va enhance what it does best like treating post-traumatic stress disorder, concussions, and those who've lost limbs. it also calls for a zero tolerance policy for lying and says the new va chief should act quickly. >> i think he only has about a year or less to really start turning this around or else veterans are going to completely lose faith in the system that is supposed to care for them. >> reporter: obviously some strong views and also language expressed in this heated debate. white house and va officials declined to comment on the editorial. now, congress is considering legislation that would allow some vets to seek private care. but we should point out that bill differs in a lot of ways from what the "arizona republic"
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is recommending. alex? >> okay. thank you for that. appreciate it, kristen welker. there's lots of weather to tell you about. what once was hurricane arthur is now out to sea after dousing parts of new england. some areas of maine receiving as much as six inches of rain. arthur also created some dangerous rip tides in eastern massachusetts, as predicted. those signs were posted warning swimmers of the danger. to the midwest where towns along the mississippi river are bracing for flooding today. crews have started sandbagging in illinois. the river is expected to crest to just more than 27 feet early this week. then in tucson, arizona the problem was rain and lots of it. that area's been struggling with doubt. so the raindrops were welcomed. but joining me now with more, we welcome meteorologist jeanine calle. how's it looking? >> hi, alex. yes, those thunderstorms in the southwest that brought beneficial to sections of the four corners will continue but that isn't rare for this time of the year. in fact, this is the wet season for most of the southwest and in particular the south african states at the four corners, arizona and new mexico.
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thunderstorms are dying down in parts of arizona and new mexico but we are looking at more scattered thunderstorms, which will continue to produce some beneficial rainfall as we head on into the afternoon and tonight, then firing up once again later tomorrow. off the southeast coast we're tracking an area of rain and thunderstorms. this is off of the coast of south carolina and georgia and also some thunderstorms extending down into south florida. but the area that we're concerned for, severe weather, is the midwest once again. notice the area shaded in yellow here is the area that we're concerned for thunderstorms. cape wolf producing damaging winds, large hail, locally heavy rain, and also a tornado or two possible. that's this afternoon into tonight. and it's as alex mentioned, this is an area that is dealing with flooding. so any additional rain will aggravate existing floods or cause additional flooding concerns. arthur is no more. the former hurricane arthur is now over the open waters of the atlantic ocean. in the wake of it new england drying out nicely. and although the threat for rip
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tides isn't as high today, beachgoers still in the vicinity should be on the lookout for some rip tides this afternoon. elsewhere across the northeast it's a beautiful sunday. high pressure in control with plenty of sunshine, and it's a warm one, alex, but not quite as humid. >> which we like, the non-humidity part. thank you so much, jeanette. what could be a rare sighting in iraq and what it tells us about the confidence of the group trying to overtake that country. [ male announcer ] we're the names you know in the places you want to be. where you can explore super destinations and do everything under the sun.
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new video posted online claims to show the elusive leader of the powerful militant group determined to seize control of iraq. a man dressed in black robes and a black turban is seen delivering a sermon at a mosque in mosul where he calls on followers to join his bloody crusade. now, nbc news has not independently verified the authenticity of this video.
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it was posted to an official isis twitter account. we're going to bring in msnbc military analyst and retired army general montgomery megs. general-g to see you. thanks for joining me. i'm curious of what you make of this new video. it's reportedly of abu bakar al baghdadi. how unusual is this to even have a video of him? >> well, it's not unusual for a -- if you want to call him soldier terrorist to need religious backing in order to create the effect in the muslim world that he wants to create. so sooner or later baghdadi had to come out and express himself as a true muslim and sort of go through the speech that he did. so that was going to happen sooner or later. if it was actually him, that was a gutsy move because if we had any intelligence of it we might have taken some -- or the iraqis might have taken some sort of action. >> right. he's been pretty underground in terms of his profile. he's been very high on the most
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wanted list. so he's taking a risk because he wants to do what you're suggesting. he needs to get the population behind him? >> that's right. he said he was the caliph. he's the religious leader of this growing organization he has, isis or i.s.i.l. but he cannot do the things he wants to do without religious leadership either supporting him or anointing him. and the interesting thing is a lot of the ayatollahs and senior religious individuals on the sunni side are saying no, no, this guy doesn't have that kind of pull and that kind of status. and so he's go got to work that. >> doesn't it all suggest the opposite, which would be that he is feeling very confident right now? >> if he came out, he sees this as an inflection point or he has a problem now that the iraqis are attacking back, and he needs to put a stake in the ground.
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it could be either one of those two courses of action. >> his call to have his countrymen join jihad, is this how it happens? does this work? is this the game plan, that always ends in the results they want? >> well, look, you've got people from great britain, the odd person perhaps from the united states going over to make jihad. it certainly helps him if he can develop in addition to the pr that he's working on the internet, if he can develop himself as a major figure that has a kind of feel for the people out there and a way to get them into his ranks. so he's definitely in a recruiting game here as well. >> general, as you know, this weekend official iranian news agencies have reported that an iranian military pilot has been killed fighting in iraq. this would be the first confirmation of iran deploying forces there. how involved do you believe iran is in this conflict? do you think its presence is significant? might it grow to be even more
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so? >> absolutely. you're going to -- first of all, the al quds force, which is the special forces organization run by the supreme leader, has people all over iraq, even before this started. they run businesses. they're totally through the fabric of the country. and they will certainly not let isis take over shiite areas. they will draw a line in the dirt and fight them. and that's where the partition of iraq starts to become a reality. that's something we'd rather not see. but things may go that way unless maliki steps down. he won't step down until the iranians agree not to support him anymore. >> all right. general montgomery meigs, good to speak with you. thanks so much for joining me. >> thanks for having me on the show. more delays at the airports this weekend after a heavy security boost. you're going to hear what's prompting the concern. and now telcos using hp big data solutions
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welcome back to "weekends with alex witt." as we approach the headlines at the half now, a new report by the "washington post" finds that 90% of communications the nsa intercepted actually belonged to unintended targets. ordinary internet users like you and i. the newspaper bases its four-month investigation on files provided by nsa leaker edward snowden. the files show ordinary account holders, both american,
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non-americans, they were caught up in a large group of intercepted conversations while the nsa targeted foreigners. an incident that was captured on video which shows an officer repeatedly punching that woman in the head and the face while pinning her to the ground. look at that. the woman's family has come forward and is calling for justice. >> he hit her over and repeatedly and repeatedly over. she wasn't even putting up a fight. i just want justice for my mom. >> we're looking at every possibility, every fact, every circumstance that have contributed to this situation. >> the police report claims the altercation occurred after the woman was seen walking along the shoulder of the highway barefoot and she ignored the officer's commands to stop. take a look at this. an inflatable children's slide goes rogue outside a carnival in nevada. can you believe this? this is cell phone video that captured the slide in mid-air after being lifted by a heavy
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gust of wind over 100 feet aboston ground. returned to earth about 100 yards away. luckily no children were inside when that took flight. new violence in the mideast. israel's military targeted ten sites in the gaza strip today in response to constant rocket fire of israeli communities in the southern part of that country. and a palestinian teenager attacked by israeli forces is out of jail in a case that is igniting outrage on both sides of the mideast conflict. nbc's ayman mohadin is joining us from jerusalem with the latest. >> reporter: it was an emotional scene here earlier on sunday morning when 15-year-old palestinian american tariq khdeir from tampa, florida was released to his family. today it was his mother and father as well as a member of the israeli parliament that came to pick him up. they were required to pay a $900 bail fee. they also have restrictions on their teenage son's movements. he's not allowed to return back to the family home in east jerusalem. that has angered the family because their son was released without any charges, effectively meaning he was not involved in any wrongdoing according to the israeli judicial system. but yet he was still required to
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pay that fee and have these restrictions imposed on him. his case drew international condemnation after video surfaced showing israeli police beating the young man almost to the point of unconsciousness according to the kid after he was released from prison. more importantly, the u.s. state department says it is profoundly troubled by the allegations that he was beaten while in police custody. they're calling for a full investigation and accountability by the israeli authorities. but human rights activists say that rarely happens here in israel when it comes to issues of police brutality against palestinians including palestinian children. meanwhile, overnight the israeli air force took out several suspected targeted sites inside the gaza strip. this also came on a day of palestinian rocket fire into southern israel. meanwhile, the israeli prime minister binyamin netanyahu says his government will act responsibly and calmly to any threats coming out of the gaza strip. >> ayman, thank you for that. turning now to the crisis at the border. the mayor of murrieta, california is weighing in on the
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heated debate over undocumented immigrants that is engulfing his town. murrieta has become a flash point in the crisis with protesters forcing buses full of undocumented immigrants to be turned away. police also arrested five people friday after scuffles broke out between protesters and immigration rights activists. the mayor says many of the protesters came from out of town and are not residents of murrieta. >> i guarantee you if a bus were to arrive at the murrieta border patrol and those aliens were here you would see that. we would treat them with compassion. the unfortunate part is that never occurred. again, this is a democracy. for whatever reason the bus was turned around. i'm not going to deal with that now. that happened. it wasn't anyone's call. what i'm telling you right now, if those buses were to arrive here tomorrow and enter the border patrol facility, you would see what murrieta is known for, and that is a caring, compassionate community. >> joining me now, msnbc political analyst jonathan
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alter. jonathan's also the author of "the center holds: obama and his enemies." welcome. glad to have you here. >> glad to be here, alex. >> i want to get your reaction to what the mayor just said and to what we've seen taking place in murrieta. >> well, i was struck by the compassionate notes that the mayor sounded there. i think he understandably doesn't want his town to be seen as an unwelcome, unfriendly, in that sense un-american kind of place. you know, we are a compassionate people. and even if this, you know, refugee crisis, if you will, is something that we need to get our hands around and as secretary jeh johnson said this morning on "meet the press" we need to indicate to the rest of the world that our borders are not open. notwithstanding all that, when you do have individuals who are undocumented who come into a town, especially when many of
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them are children, to be greeted this way does not make our country look good. >> yeah. as you know, the president says he's going to act on his own because the house republicans are obstructing immigration reform. but what exactly can he do single-handedly? >> well, you know, in 2012 he set up that program to allow the so-called dreamers, those who arrived here at very young ages, to begin to have some kind of a path to citizenship. they have been discriminated against for reasons that -- no fault of their own. they came as small children. so he took that action within the law. he can do some other things in terms of selectively prosecuting, selectively deporting, focusing administrative efforts more on undocumented folks who have broken the law, and those are
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the ones who need to be deported first. the reaction, alex, is that the speaker of the house, john boehner, has reiterated that he will now sue the president of the united states because he believes he has exceeded his oath of office, essentially violated his oath of office to -- you know, to enforce the law properly. so what you have here is almost a new kind of constitutional crisis because we haven't seen this before. the actual remedy for this, if john boehner believes that president obama has violated his oath, he really should introduce articles of impeachment. but he knows that that's a complete loser, it's completely ridiculous to do, that so he's -- >> that's whatnot he wants to do. >> yeah. but -- >> in an election year -- >> let's just be clear. before we get to the political implications of it, i mean, the reason he is not going toward impeachment is he knows it would backfire and hurt republicans in the fall if he did it in the
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same way that it hurt republicans in 1998, when they impeached bill clinton and they got crushed at the polls that fall because it's a ridiculous remedy in this situation. but nonetheless, that is what boehner should be doing if he's arguing, as he is, that obama has violated his oath. which he has not. i mean, there's plenty of administrative leeway for the president to do what he's doing right now in administering our immigration laws. what's happened, though, is that the republicans are seeing a political opportunity and trying to turn this into a perceived power grab by the president when in fact what he's doing is what presidents have always done, which is that there is some administrative regulatory leeway for the executive branch when it comes to carrying out the law. >> can i ask you real quick about the irs hearings that are
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scheduled later for this week? i don't have much more time. but i do want to get you to weigh in on this. the new poll that shows 1 in 5 adults are paying very close attention to that controversy. how do you see that playing out? >> this is more of the republicans kind of crying wolf, trying to get traction with their charge that this is a scandal-plagued presidency. that's the argument they want to make in this election year. and so they're throwing as much against the wall as they can to see what sticks, even if you have things that the irs and the va that were many, many layers below the white house, that do not go into the white house despite repeated investigations. no evidence of any connection to the white house with these so-called scandals. but they're going to see if they can get some traction as that poll indicated. so far they're not. >> jonathan alter thanks so much. >> thanks, alex. more on the border crisis. new insight today into what happens at the fence that has been built along the border of u.s. and mexico. on assignment for msnbc.com,
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photographer charles omini drove 3,000 miles along that fence, and this is what he found. >> the fence is not stopping anybody. >> it was a bad idea to put it up. >> it was perfectly fine the way it was. >> it damages the land, damages the people, causes harm. >> this is one of the consequences. ♪ ♪ >> joining me now is photojournalist charles omini. and charles, with a welcome to you, tell me what stands out most in your mind when you think about what you saw.
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what did you least expect that you discovered? >> hi, alex. i was actually thinking about that on the way here today. and if there's one thing that stands out probably more than anything else, was how surprising it was to me, how the people who actually live down on the southern border find or look at the fence as a negative. all the way across if there was one thing that most of the people i interviewed or most of the people i talked to, they all -- the fence affected them in a negative way, whether it be a child talking about how she could no longer swim in the river because the fence had cut off their garden or -- right across the border the conservationists who saw it as a problem for migrating animals or down in brownsville where the fence resembles something you'd see in the middle east. it's a huge monstrosity. >> it's interesting because in the footage we see a border patrol agent handing out water
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to the immigrants. it's really a show of humanity there doing that. there's an understanding this is a very dangerous voyage, people are risking their lives in hopes of having a better life here in the united states. were there a lot of scenes like that? >> as i progressed on my trip and we got nearer to now, because i started this project in january. i started seeing more and more of that. i was with a sheriff in falfores i believe it's called, county. he had this grave site where immigrants were having to go around all these border checkpoints. and he took me one day to this place where it was very depressing, where there's all these unknown graves, and he was complaining to me about how all his funds for his office were being used up in dealing with this problem there. and there's another thing which
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i wanted to talk about. south of there, just east of brownsville, i was interviewing a man and at the end of the interview he told me can i take to you this spot behind my house? and you can actually see what we're talking about. and i jumped in my car, and we drove about five minutes. this is near a place called boca chica beach. and he showed me what you can only think of as an exodus of footprints. just as far as the eye could see. of footprints across the sand and mud. like i say, an exodus coming -- heading north. and where are all these people going and what is happening to them? >> yeah. we're looking at the picture right now of that. and it is -- it's a profound statement right there. >> incredible. >> yeah, it is incredible. so in essence, did you see the border fence being this dividing line or there were places along which there was open space, correct? people were trying to help even repair it, patch it up.
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i mean, different things you saw along the border fence. >> i came away with -- i entered this project with an open mind, and i came away quite shocked that you'd have something that in places cost $23 million a mile to build. but then it would stop at a private golf course and then carry on on the other side of the golf course. to me it's kind of ridiculous. speaking to local farmers, speaking to law enforcement and speaking to people along the route, i genuinely feel that not that many people who really live on that southern border think that washington understands what's going on down there. and they all say the same thing. this fence does not work. >> it is an extraordinary assignment that you've done for msnbc.com. i suggest people check it out. >> thank you. >> because the pictures are profound. charles ommaney, thank you for
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float, and swim, often before they can even walk. >> these skills have never, ever be a substitute for adult supervision, fences around pools, alarms on the gates. a child has no business in the water alone or around the water. >> reporter: but drowning is the leading cause of accidental death for children 1 to 4 years old, and the skills these kids learn can save their lives. >> very nice. >> reporter: we're there for 7-month-old emma's very first lesson. >> i want her to learn that the water will float her. because when she assumes the correct posture the water will float her. >> mom, did that make you nervous at all as she went under? >> a little. >> reporter: but she'll be back ten minutes a day for five days a week for six weeks. >> do you include this as part of the lesson plan in they will have to at some point go in with their clothes and learn how to float? >> yes. >> reporter: the lessons have already paid off for the parker family. their son lucas fell into the deep end of their pool last year when he was only 3. >> he just popped out onto his back into his float and then climbed out of the pool. >> on the day of our visit his sister kiley is finishing the
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course. >> how old is she? >> 1 and she can already swim. that's so great. >> reporter: it's 7-month-old quinn's last day of instruction too. >> wow. >> her parents have a pool. god forbid something happens where he just walks out back and decides to jump in. so we thought it would be a good investme investment. >> reporter: and it's one that's paid off. >> you think he can't do it then he just does it, that blows your mind. >> you made daddy cry. he's proud of you. he's so proud of you. >> reporter: proud and with peace of mind. jenna wolfe, nbc news, new york. >> great story there. the party with a purpose winds down but not before giving us a sneak peek at a new movie about the godfather of soul. we're going to take you to the essence festival in new orleans. next. to hear how their day went, serve manwich. and wait til they come up for air.
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airports in europe are stepping up security measures for flights headed to the united
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states. this move follows a wave of new concerns that al qaeda bomb experts are trying to develop new types of undetectible explosives that can slip through airport security. secretary of homeland security jeh johnson spoke about the importance of taking a proactive approach this morning. >> our job is to -- is to try to anticipate the next attack, not simply react to the last one. and so we continually evaluate the world situation, and we know that there remains a terrorist threat to the united states and aviation security is a large part of that. >> the additional screenings in paris and london cause delays of up to an hour or so for passengers on flights headed to the u.s. this weekend. joining me now the director for the center of defense studies at kings college london, peter newman. peter-w a welcome to you, where is this information about these potentially new explosives coming from, and how credible is it? >> so this is u.s. intelligence, and there seems to be information that bomb makers from al qaeda and yemen, which
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is in a way the most sophisticated al qaeda affiliate, have traveled to syria and met up with local al qaeda supporters there. and that is particularly problematic because you have a meeting of the most sophisticated bomb makers with all these new al qaeda recruits in syria who are often not known to western intelligence services. that combination could be very dangerous indeed. >> are he we getting a sense of the type of new explosive we're talking about here? >> so i've read all sorts of things. i've heard that perhaps they are trying to hide something in smartphones or a newer later updated version of the shoe bomb. there's all sorts of rumors around. ultimately, only really top security intelligence people know the answer, i guess. >> isis is presumed to have a number of foreign fighters. what kind of access does that give isis to europe and even beyond, here to the united states in terms of being able to pull off a terrorist attack?
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>> so it needs to be emphasized that the current threat is not coming from isis. it is coming from al qaeda. and isis and al qaeda are rivals now. it is of course true that both isis and al qaeda have attracted a large number of foreign fighters. we estimate about 2,800 europeans have over the past three years gone to syria to fight. maybe 500 from britain. maybe 600 from france. all of which are countries that allow you to travel to the united states without a visa. >> would you go so far as to say that isis does not pose a western threat, as has been believed by -- i know certainly that's been discussion on capitol hill. >> presently, i believe right now they're not posing a threat to the west because they are so busy fighting on four fronts in the middle east, against the syrian government, iraqi government, the kurds, et cetera, et cetera. so right now i don't think they are a threat. however, of course their ideology is ultimately very hostile to the west, and i think
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that ultimately in the medium to long term they will be a threat to the west. right now they are quite busy with other things. >> okay. peter neumann, thank you very much for weighing in. i appreciate it. we'll see you again. >> thank you. rapper nelly made a surprise appearance at the 20th annual essence festival in new orleans last night performing three of his biggest hits. the roots, mary j. blige, jill scott all took to the superdome stage, bringing the crowd to its feet. tickets to this year's essence festival are on track to beat last year's record-w attendance expected to top some 600,000 people. and the grio's chris witherspoon is one of them. chris is join meg from the essence festival which we should say is an msnbc growing hope event. with a welcome to you. welcome back. i'm glad to see you're up and at 'em. i was afraid you might be partying all night given what you had in front of you. >> as i told you yesterday, i wish you were here. it's an incredible event. >> i wish i was. >> yes. last night ladies' night jill scott, mary j. blige. they really were the perfect follow-up to prince. and it was also great to see a lot of stars. i ran into anthony mackey,
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sherri shepherd. they were there. so many stars to celebrate what this festival stafrnds stands for and how these artists have impacted their lives. >> interestingly, the star and director of the upcoming james brown biopic, "get on up," they were there, and i understand you spoke with them too. >> yeah. so this festival is so much more than just music, just more than empowerment. this new film "get on up," it's about james brown's life. travis boseman who stars as james brown opened up on how they're going to address the impact james brown had on the civil rights movement. we'll take a look at that clip right now. >> okay. >> he had a voice because he was traveling from city to city. he knew his music was touching people. he was trying to make music about things that mattered to him. and when the time came, you know, which was basically for it to be a formal statement for him, which is basically after king's assassination he just stepped up to the plate. >> i also spoke to the film's director, tate taylor, who i
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love this film that he did, "the help" a couple years ago. he got a little criticism as being a white director telling a black story. i spoke to him about tackling this film as a white director, which is a really grate story about james brown. and he said he's not worried about any skeptics or critics of him doing this film. here's what he had to say. >> i'm fresh scottish irish. as much as i want to change it there's nothing i can do about it. so the answer's the same. no. i'm a storyteller. james brown's a storyteller. and i wanted to tell his story. >> alex. i could not be more excited about this film, "get on up." it hits theaters august 1st. >> "get on up." looks like it's going to be an appointment on the calendar, august 1st. thank you so much, chris witherspoon. and you've got joy reid. >> another video bomb. i had tamron hall yesterday. now i have joy. >> tamron hall has created a new tradition at essence festival, which is that as chris witherspoon is doing his hit he gets photo bombed. it's a trix, i have to uphold it. >> joy, how are you enjoying it?
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what is the message you're getting from this festival? >> it's so great meeting the people that are on the side of the tv screen that watch us every day. people are so enthusiastic about the empowerment, everything about the festival. it's not just the music. the panels are amazing. the speakers are amazing. think and i think people are leaving here actually feeling empowered. they actually really do translate that into themselves. it's really great. >> joy, you really are a star here. joy's a star at this festival. >> are you kidding? joy's a star everywhere she goes. so are you, chris. nice being video or i guess in person bombed there. sigh. ahead in the next hour north carolina's new suppressive voter i.d. law could be put on hold as soon as tomorrow. we're going to bring you the very latest from raleigh. ms. but if you have arthritis, this can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain, and improve daily physical function so moving is easier. because just one 200mg celebrex a day can provide 24 hour relief for many with arthritis pain.
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she's demanding answers about this videotaped beating of her mother. but what's the california highway patrol saying about it? get out of the water! shark! >> hey, get out of the water. >> that's scary. it's a scramble for life. a rare shark attack in southern california. the victim tells us what happened. good day to all of you. welcome to "weekends with alex witt." a little past 1:00 a.m. in the east, 10:00 a.m. out west. we have new reaction and a call to action from key lawmakers on the escalating crisis at the u.s.-mexico border including what the u.s. should do with the surge of children crossing into the u.s. alone. >> this is a specific problem created by an impression that if you get to america you can stay. we've got to turn that impression around, send these children back to their homeland, and tell the countries in question if you don't keep them and take care of them we're going to cut all aid off. >> i think this administration understands what needs to be
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done. and it's a really amazing challenge. first get down to honduras, el salvador, and guatemala and make it clear that sending these children north is a desperate and deadly decision. >> nbc's kristen welker is at the white house. kristen, we had homeland security secretary jeh johnson also talking today about this border crisis. what's he saying? >> reporter: well, on the one hand, alex, he had a strong message for those who live in central america who might be thinking about crossing the border. he said, "the border is not open." and he told david gregory the administration is going to take a number of steps to deal with the crisis. we know this week president obama is going to officially ask for more than $2 billion to deal with the issue. he'll also ask for more legislative authority so he can more quickly deport some of these people who have come here illegally. and he's going to ask for more latitude to crack down on the smugglers. but he didn't directly answer questions about whether the vast majority of these unaccompanied children will stay in the u.s. or whether they will be deported
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back to their home countries. here is a little bit more of what secretary johnson had to say today. take a listen. >> i've spoken directly to kids on the border who've told me that they have held on for days and hours to the top of a freight train, literally holding on for dear life because they risk falling off and dying. we keep reminding parents of the dangers of sending your children unaccompanied on this journey, this long 1,000-mile journey, and that there are no free passes once you get here. >> reporter: and one of the ways that they are reminding those parents, alex, is to launch a $1 million campaign in central america warning parents not to send their kids here. now, all of this comes as president obama prepares to travel to texas on wednesday. right now he has some campaign events scheduled. no plans at this point according to administration officials to visit the border. however, there is so much political pressure, so much focus on this right now, it's hard to see that he won't
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address the crisis at the border in some way, shape, or form. alex. >> whether he goes there or not or makes a side trip, we'll see. kristen welker, thank you for that. the department of homeland security stepping up security measures at overseas airports with direct flights to the u.s. passengers are likely to see more screenings and pat-downs plus extra security -- or rather scrutiny of their electronics. nbc's jim maceda has more. hey, jim. >> reporter: hi, alex. heathrow airport, of course, is one of the world's busiest airports and a prime terrorist target. while heathrow officials don't just give out details on any new precautions, passengers we've spoken to going on u.s.-bound flights are saying they have seen more explosive swab tests, for instance, especially on their electronic devices. they mention laptops, tablets, cell phones and the like. and they also mention shoes as well. swabbing shoes seems to be coming back. some passengers said those physical pat-downs that we're all so used to seemed more
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frequent in the past few days and that overall it seems to be taking about twice as long now to get through airport security. of course at the airport i'm talking about behind me. it may be different in other countries. but you don't see increased armed police patrols in or around the terminals, which would suggest that the focus is on those preset disguised bombs that current scanners might not detect and than of course u.s. intelligence is saying al qaeda-linked bomb makers may have perfected. some british aviation security and explosives experts are taking, they say, this threat very seriously. and more frighteningly even, they say that the current airport security techniques are not yet in place to deal with it. here's what a couple of experts told us. >> after the shoe bomber we saw people's shoes coming off. after the liquid plot we saw liquids, aerosols, and gels being restricted on board aircraft. we are always reactive. and that is what is wrong with the system.
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and that is why i believe that we shouldn't be basing our response on deploying technology and then saying oh, my gosh, there's a new device out there that our existing technologies can't identify. >> it's not particularly difficult to disguise a bomb. to disguise it so it can go through all the tricks, potentially even, for example, take a laptop. you need to be able to switch it on and for it to work. so you've got to really start changing the inside of it so that even though it goes through a scanner, it looks like a laptop, it works like a laptop, but actually it's a bomb. >> reporter: alex, we know that al qaeda's used a body bomb, bombs literally carried inside the body, which has led some experts to call for profiling of passengers and the scanning of suspicious passengers by much stronger so-called through-body x-ray machines. but of course that opens or raises a whole new array of issues of security versus privacy. so far passengers we've spoken to here say they're largely
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understanding of the situation. they say they don't mind arriving an hour or even more earlier if it makes their flight safer. alex, back to you. >> understandably so. thank you so much, jim maceda. a holiday weekend dip in the pacific ocean almost turned deadly when a great white shark attacked a swimmer. he was in the ocean with friends off southern california's manhattan beach when the attack happened, and now we're getting a firsthand account from the victim. nbc's kristen dahlgren is here with more on this. it's just a horrible story for beachgoers. >> reporter: yeah, it is. it's really dramatic. you look at pictures like this. every beachgoer's worst nightmare. but shark attacks are actually pretty rare in southern california. it did happen on saturday, know, the start of the busy holiday weekend. now, as you said, we're hearing for the first time from that swimmer who survived the encounter. >> you could feel the whole body shaking with the shark. >> reporter: the video captures the moment it happened. a swimmer with no idea a seven-foot great white is nearby. >> look at that. there he is. look at him.
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right -- >> reporter: the shark tarksz thrashing, fighting to escape a fisherman's line. >> maybe he got bit. >> the guy's like no, never mind, get the life guard, shark attack, shark attack. >> reporter: the victim, who suffered a bite to his torso and hand, is now out of the hospital and telling his story. >> it surfaced up to the very top, and i saw it eye to eye. it made a very sharp left turn and just lunged right at my chest. >> reporter: some witnesses say the bloody scene could have been avoided. >> a fisherman hooked the shark. okay? and he was fighting it for about 40, 45 minutes. >> they're trying to get away, and the fisherman's trying to pull him in. >> reporter: fishing for great whites is prohibited. and fishermen are required to cut the shark loose as soon as it's identified. >> whether he was trying to unhook him and snapped the line or not, i'm not sure. >> reporter: one of the fishermen told knbc they were not fishing for great whites and
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noted they alerted swimmers to get out of the water. >> hey! get out of the water! shark! >> get out of the water! shark! >> reporter: officials kept people out of the water until they were able to spot the shark in deeper water. >> the shark was injured from the hook. whenever an animal is injured you don't know how they're going to behave. so we're not taking any chances. >> reporter: as for the 40-year-old, who is recovering this morning -- >> i don't know what to think right now. i really don't. i'm just -- i'm still in shock. i nearly died today. >> reporter: now, police have banned fishing off that pier for at least the next several days. for just how common a shark attack is off the coast of cali there have been 39 shark tacks, five of them fatal. those screams not what you want to hear. squln at all. the scariest part was when he said he saw that shark eye to eye. there's something about looking at a great white shark, that sort of lifeless eye, no thanks. thank you, though. in a new video released
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new developments on the nsa snooping. edward snowden has given the "washington post" nsa files on legal investigations into foreigners. now, these files show that 90% of the intercepted digital communications involved ordinary internet users. many of them were americans. and not the target of the nsa probes. a new video posted online purports to show the leader of the isis militant group delivering a sermon in the northern iraqi city of mosul. it could be the first known video of abu bakher al baghdadi. nbc news has not independently verified the authenticity of this video. sunni militants led by isis
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swemt through northern iraq and syria capturing several cities. republican senator lindsey graham spoke today on the threat that isis poses. >> according to the director of national intelligence, the fbi director and most of our intelligence community, isis presents a direct threat to the homeland in syria, now iraq. americans and western europeans are going to help their cause and they can flow back here. so yes, they're a direct threat to the homeland and they're getting much stronger as we speak. >> joining me now is democratic senator benjamin carden of maryland. senator carden, good to see you, sir. >> alex, it's always good to be with you. >> thank you so much. let's get your reaction to what you heard your colleague, senator graham, say. how big of a threat do you think isis is right now to the homeland? >> isis clearly is a radical group that's making a lot of inroads in iraq. and i think the key here is whether the iraqi government can give confidence that they're not just representing the shia majority but also the sunnis and the kurdish. i mean, that's been the void in which isis has been able to make
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the type of penetration it has. right now it's a real threat in iraq. the iraqis need to take responsibility for the security of their own country. and obviously, we want to see a government that represents all the people of iraq. >> since isis first began these attacks in iraq last month, sir, there's been this question about the u.s. and iran being unified on securing peace in iraq. critics are saying u.s. should staer clear of any such partnership. others say hey, it's worth considering. senator, what do you say? >> well, our interests with iran are really different. we want to make sure they don't become a nuclear weapons state and they are financing terrorism and we have to remember that's our primary focus. but iran is concerned about the shiite government in iraq. and therefore, they do have a concern about the stability of what's happening in iraq itself. so there is a -- i wouldn't say any common interest but there is a desire that iraq be a government that can be stable in iraq and do that.
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it has to represent more than just the shiite majority. >> picking up on the nuclear element you mentioned, sir, the hill has a new article today on iran and here's what it says. the quote is "the obama administration faces a major test of its foreign policy later this month as negotiators push to complete a deal that would prevent iran from obtaining nuclear weapons. a july 20 deadline for completing that deal is fast approaching. and regardless of whether there's a deal, no deal, or an extension of talks, congress may threaten to impose more sanctions on iran." do you think, sir, it is likely that congress will impose more sanctions? >> i think we all are hoping that the administration's able to keep the coalition together that has isolated iran. the sanctions have worked. that's why iran's at the bargaining table. if it weren't for the fact that their economy has been very badly hurt by the international community saying look, you've got to comply with your nuclear non-proliferation agreements, we wouldn't be where we are today. so i think our objective is to maintain that pressure and if necessary strengthen that
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pressure so that iran understands the only course they have is to give up their nuclear weapon ambitions. >> changing gears here, earlier on the broadcast i spoke with your colleague in the house, congressman john yarmuth. and i want to get your take on this, that we are getting these new positive signs on the economy. look at the dow, it has surpassed 17,000 for the first time this past week. employers adding 288,000 jobs in june, which is far more than was expected. however, here's the curious part. just 34% of americans approve of president obama's handling of the economy. this is from the latest gallup poll. senator, what y. do you think that is? why isn't the president getting more credit? >> well, i think the president has taken decisive action in washington. however, republicans, particularly in the house, have blocked a lot of the programs that could help our economy grow even stronger. we talked a little while ago about the immigration reform. that would help our economy. passing a transportation bill would help our economy. passing a long-term budget would help our economy.
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so i think the president, yes, the economy is recovering and his numbers will continue to go up as far as the job approval. but we could be doing a lot better if we saw the type of cooperation in washington, democrats and republicans working together with the administration. >> that's true. before i let you go, sir, i do want to ask about last week's supreme court ruling regarding hobby lobby and birth control. i know that you and 18 of your colleagues filed this amicus brief in support of the government's position in the case. now that the supreme court has issued its ruling, what do you see as the long-term implications? how is this going to play out? >> well, i still think it's not clear as to how the supreme court will rule on future decisions, but that was extremeextreme ly disappointing because it allowed a private employer to impose his or her views on the work force and deny contraceptive services. that's just wrong. it's against what congress intended. and i think the supreme court went too far in that 5-4 decision. >> but do you have concerns, sir, that it's a slippery slope? i mean, there are those who
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suggested, dr. ezekiel emanuel said what's going to be next when it comes to something like this? might it be vaccinations from religions that don't approve of that? look how that might change. >> yeah, i agree. we don't know where this could lead. but clearly, if they follow this pattern you could find that whatever an employer believes, they can deny their employees coverage for vital health services. these services affect the health of a woman. the contraceptive services. you're right. it could go to immunization. it could go to other services. and it's just wrong. we understand the religious exemption for a religious group, but this is private employers, who have a responsibility to provide comprehensive coverage to their employees. and i think the supreme court overruled congress. it was wrong. it was an activist court. it's a 5-4 decision. it could lead to even more harm for adequate coverage for americans. >> all right. senator benjamin cardin, until next time thank you so much. >> thanks, alex. seinfeld, 25 years later.
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"seinfeld" debuted 25 years ago this weekend on nbc, and today we're still laughing and quoting jerry, george, elaine, and kramer. and nbc's joel garnlg yooulo has more on this anniversary milestone. >> reporter: 25 years ago a little show then called "the seinfeld chronicles" came barging through our doors. ♪ >> the second button literally makes or breaks the shirt. look at it. it's too high. >> reporter: the groundbreaking nbc sitcom not only introduced us to jerry, elaine, george, and kramer, it spawned countless personalities -- >> no soup for you! >> because of her i have to sit here like an animal. >> hello, jerry. >> hello, newman. >> reporter: and brought us relentlessly quotable things like -- >> i was in the pool! >> a festiveus for the rest of us. >> yada yada yada.
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>> serenity now. >> yada. >> the approach of the show was unlike anything anyone had ever seen before. i think there's no question that "seinfeld" changed the tv industry. >> giving and caring and generally concerned about the welfare of others. i can't be with someone like that. >> reporter: and no question it changed our lexicon too. try to say close talker, double dipper or regifter without thinking about "seinfeld." you can't. >> get out! >> reporter: so how do you celebrate a quarter of a century of "seinfeld"? >> just sit and marinate in the beauty and the genius that was "seinfeld." >> i normally watch about 2, 2 1/2 hours of "seinfeld" every day on reruns. so i think i'll watch 3 1/2, maybe 4. >> reporter: or you could channel "seinfeld" like carson. >> it's a puffy shirt. i feel ridiculous in it. >> nice. >> not bad, right, guys? >> have you completely lost your mind? >> reporter: "seinfeld" may have gone off the air in 1998, but it lives on in reruns and still has us talking and laughing to this
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day. a show about nothing could turn into something so big. >> remember we had this conversation before? >> reporter: joel gargiulo, nbc news, new york. >> yada, yada, yada. in just a minute what a difference a camera makes. that beating of that palestinian american in israel. what snapped the teenager has just spoken to the media. and the lens may lead to justice for this woman. her daughter is now demanding action, and you're going to hear from her. you should know that 1 in 3 people will get shingles in their lifetime.
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to run away because i just saw something. somebody running at me. so i tried to run away. i remember like two people coming and hitting me from behind, and then i went to sleep. that's it. >> the palestinian-american teenager was protesting the death of his cousin at the time of the alleged incident. israel announced today the arrests of several jewish suspects in that case. the killing sparked violent protests in arab areas of jerusalem and northern israel. homeland security secretary jeh johnson says the obama administration's taking new steps in response to the escalating border crisis. one of them speeding up the time it takes to deport undocumented adults who enter the country without children. meantime, the first laid yif honduras is telling local media the government there is preparing to receive an average of ten flights a week returning groups of honduran citizens who were undocumented in the u.s. nbc's stephanie gosk traveled to honduras to see why so many are fleeing to the u.s. stephanie filed this report. >> reporter: to understand why
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young people from central america are leaving without their parents to go to the u.s., you only have to come here. san pedro sula, honduras. we're in a neighborhood right now that's controlled by four different gangs. this small space here is a neutral area. but they tell us down any of these roads it's literally a no-go zone. every young person that we've spoken to here says they want to go to the united states because of the violence. of course it's not just young people that are making that journey. we visited a center dedicated to young mothers and their children that have been deported. those trying to get to the u.s. but didn't make it. here they are processed. we spoke to them. they said that they believed that when they got to the border with the united states that the united states government was going to allow them to stay, and they still believe that. they told us after they were processed they were likely just going to turn around and head back north. >> that was nbc's stephanie gosk reporting from honduras.
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new video posted online claims to show the new leader of isis preaching at a mosque in iraq. it is one of the first known appearances of militant leader abu bhaker al baghdadi. nbc news has not independently verified the authenticity of this video, but in the video he outlines a terrorist agenda and calls on followers to join his bloody crusade. let's bring in now counterterrorism expert and senior vice president of the sefan group richard barrett. welcome. >> thank you. >> your reaction to this video, first of all, do you think it's legitimate? >> yes, i do. i think it's highly unlikely it wouldn't be abu bhaker al baghdadi. i'm quite sure it is. because the risk they run of having a sort of fake up there is too great for them. >> what do you think this video suggests? there's been a suggestion that he's either brazenly confident right now or he is actually in more desperate need to have followers join his cause. could it be both in. >> i guess it could abe bit of both. his voice is very calm. his delivery is measured. i don't think he shows any sort
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of extreme anxiety beening there and being exposed to a lot of people around him and so on. so i think it's a pretty confident sort of video though perhaps not a terribly inspiring one. and it is really aimed i think at people who may be out there who are sort of thinking of possibly joining. and certainly it's trying to present himself as the leader of the faithful or the new caliph as he calls himself rather than just some other sort of terrorist guy who's trying to grab a bit of power. >> what about a $10 million reward that the u.s. has offered for leading to information or specifically to his capture? how does that play out, those kinds of things? >> yeah, i'm not sure that that's going to lead to anything terribly successful. because the people around him won't be motivated by that sort of money. and i think that probably other people who may be able to have some indication of where he is are probably not going to be able to give enough detail to be able to claim the reward. i'm not sure it's going to have a whole lot of practical impact.
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but nonetheless, of course, it's a good expression of the seriousness with which the united states takes his presence. >> do we understand well his relationship with al qaeda versus that of isis? he's been described as somebody who's so brutal, so awful that al qaeda doesn't want to include him among their ranks. >> yes. i wouldn't draw too much distinction between al qaeda and abu bhaker al baghdadi. i think they're both pretty ruthless and extreme and they don't stop at murdering people they regard as their enemies regardless of what those people have done. so i don't think it's right to call him more xroem than al qaeda. i think this is about the tussle for power of the sort of what they call the jihadist movement, and i think the al qaeda leadership has been put very much on the back foot by abu bakr al baghdadi's rise to such prominence. >> do you think there's any sort of political solution or at least political efforts that would help defuse this crisis right now? suggestions of the iraqi prime
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minister stepping down. would that deescalate this conflict within the country? >> well, i think certainly the iraqi government needs to do something to be more inclusive because a whole load of people who aren't necessarily extremists have joined behind abu bakr al baghdadi. for example, tribal leaders and old baathists, people who maybe were around saddam hussein and in his army. and they'll always be fighting the regime for so long as they're excluded because they had everything and now they've got nothing. maliki probably thinks he can do without them and he'll go on fighting and he'll defeat them. but that will take a long time i think and cause a great deal of destruction in the meantime. >> richard, how concerned are you about retaliatory attacks to western europe or even here into the united states? >> well, i think abu bakr al baghdadi has his hands full in iraq, but i do think the al qaeda leadership, wanting to reassert its priems in should sort of sphere may be tempted to commit an attack in the west just to show that agd addi really only attacks muslims and locally at that whereas al qaeda
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is still a global terrorist movement. >> and richard, there's all this concern about new efforts, new types of explosives that are being devised to use to try to attack us and those in western europe. do you think that is a serious concern? do you think that al qaeda is capable of that kind of development? >> well, it's not a new concern. it's been around for some time. and if you remember, al qaeda in the arabian peninsula has already tried two or three times to put planes on bombs. you'll remember the christmas day bomber in 2009 and the printer bombs the following year and so on. and even another attempt they made in 2012. but fortunately, the person who took the bomb was working for the saudi intelligence services. so there is that fear out there. and i think recently because the assessment is that al qaeda may be making another attempt to launch an attack i guess that's come to the top of the agenda again. >> okay. richard barrett, thank you very much. a sobering conversation. appreciate it. >> sure. there is some new reaction to this videotaped arrest in southern california. it's coming from the daughter
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and attorney of the woman involved in the altercation. and they are demanding action from the california highway patrol. beverly white from knbc in los angeles is bringing us the latest. >> today was the first day i was finally able to see her and talk to her and i just thank god she's alive. >> reporter: her voice shaking maisha talks about her mom the woman seen in this confrontation. a chp officer is seen punching penick several times. >> he hit her over and repeatly and repeatedly over. she wasn't even putting up a fight. >> reporter: a passing motorist captured part of it on this cell phone video tuesday around 5:40 in the evening while penick walked barefoot on the 10 freeway ramp near la brea. she was reportedly ordered by a chp officer to stop but when she ignored him chp says it set off a physical altercation that is now the focus of an internal investigation. >> we're looking at every possibili possibility, every fact, every circumstance that have contributed to this situation. >> reporter: the officer is seen
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repeatedly punching penick. maisha says her mom suffered severe injuries, just the opposite of what the chp is saying. >> the report indicated that the individual was not injured and the officer didn't notice any injuries on the individual. >> the chp's representation that there were no injuries is absolutely false. she has suffered multiple injuries. >> reporter: while the family didn't answer my question on why penick was wandering on the freeway, they say whatever the reason it doesn't justify the officer's behavior, lashing out to violently. >> i don't see why he used such extreme force on her. >> reporter: chp booked penick on a 72-hour hold for mental evaluation. the family is not saying whether penick, a mother, sister, and great grandmother, suffers from mental illness, but her daughter told me there is one thing she wants for her mom. >> i just want justice for my mom. >> and that was beverly white reporting there from knbc. the officer accused of repeatedly punching that woman is on paid administrative leave while the california highway
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patrol investigates the case. the family's attorney, meanwhile, says the focus of that investigation should not be on the woman, rather on who she calls the wannabe mma cop. new accusations are being revealed about the georgia father accused of murder in the hot car death of his toddler son. prosecutors say that justin ross harris was sexting with several women on the day of his son's death including a teenage girl, and life insurance policies on cooper are raising new questions about possible motives. >> we plan to show that he wanted to live a child-free life. >> there's been no connection whatsoever between the events of that day and the death of this child and this fantasy texting. >> let's bring in right now bradford cohen, criminal defense attorney. bradford, with a welcome to you, let's talk about the relevance that the sexting has in this case. what does it actually prove? >> well, it depends on what side you're on. if you're on the state and you're arguing for the state attorney, you would say that this gives him a state of mind that he wanted to be child-free,
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that he wanted to live a life without a kid, that he wanted to have sex with these random women. if this is even admitted into court. on the defense side you could argue that it could have been keeping him busy all day, it could have been a reason why he forgot that this young child was in the car, that he was so preoccupied with this, you know, sexting these other women that he forgot all about his son. you know, i think it's going to revolve around whether or not this is even admitted. but i think if it is admitted you could argue both sides of this very easily. >> distraction part, though, bradford, does that then mean that it doesn't show intent? >> yeah, exactly. i mean, they're going to argue that he had an intent to leave the child in the car, that that was the reason why he was reviewing all these things on the internet about how hot a car has to be in order for an animal or a human to die in a car. so they're going to make the argument that this goes to his state of mind, that it goes to
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his intent. the defense will make the argument that if it does come into evidence that it shows lack of intent, that it shows that he was so busy, you know, and preoccupied with this moronic texting these ladies that he forgot his son in the vehicle. >> okay. how about the life insurance policy angle here? because police are saying harris had two life insurance policies, the total amount of them $27,000. this is on a little child, a little toddler. i mean, why would parents need a life insurance policy on a child that age if the purpose of life insurance is to replace income after someone's death? >> you know, even as a defense attorney i always find that strange. i always find it strange when parents take out life insurance policies on children. the excuses are, you know, if there is a catastrophe, if something happens, that they'll have money for the funeral, that they'll have money to provide for different situations if the child does die not at their hands, obviously. i think it's unusual.
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i think in this case it's going to be a very big hurdle for the defense to overcome. even though motive is not an element of a murder or motive is not an element of a crime, the state always wants something to give an excuse or a reason why this individual did what they did. so in this case this gives a very nice in terms of wrapped up present to the state attorney to say hey, this is the reason why they did it, they were in debt. but when you look at it, their debt was very small. i think their debt was $4,000 or $5,000. but the argument is going to be they were in debt, this guy was starting a new business, they needed the money, and that's why this occurred. >> another thing police are talking about is that justin ross-harris's wife leanna was calm when she went to pick up cooper from daycare and was told that he'd never been dropped off in front of several witnesses and that he should said "ross must have left him in the car." how does she factor into this case? >> this is kind of the x factor in the case right now. what was her knowledge?
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what was her intent is what the state is looking at. you know, a normal husband and wife -- and i'm not married. but even my girlfriend, she'll text me during the day and ask me,000 things are going. that's just a normal relationship. so for a wife ton text a husband, especially when he was dropping the child off at daycare, just during the day, a random like hey, how did it go this morning, is very unusual. they're going look at the texts. they're going to look at the interaction between their relationship. they're also going to look at the statements that she made and the way she reacted to the son who passed away. i mean, everyone reacts differently, and as a defense attorney that's what we always say, you know, some people cry, some people are silent, some people don't do anything at all. but in this case it's very highly unusual that she would show up at a daycare center, they would say he never dropped him off and then she makes the statement, well, maybe he left him in the car. that's unusual to me. i think it's going to be a hurdle for the defense to overcome. not impossible but certainly a 4urd'l
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hurdle. but her interaction, the way she was studying things at home, what she was revealing on google and the reaction with the baby i think is going to be very huge in terms of whether or not she gets charged. >> criminal defense attorney bradford cohen. bradford, thanks for joining us. i appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. tomorrow could be a decisive day in a courtroom battle where the right to vote is at stake. up next we're going to show you who is at risk of losing the power of the vote. defiance is in our bones. defiance never grows old. citracal maximum. calcium citrate plus d. highly soluble, easily absorbed.
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anita judge. welcome to you. >> thank you. good to talk to you again, alex. >> i'm glad to see you too. let's talk about this hearing. it's for the preliminary injunction scheduled for tomorrow afternoon. what kind of case does the aclu and other groups have against
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it? >> well, the advancement project is representing the north carolina naacp. the advancement project as well as kirkland and ellis. and what we intend to do tomorrow is really to bring forth a case to ask the judge to stop this law, this monster voter suppression law from being in effect in 2014 and really to allow the law that was in effect in 2010 and 2012 to be in effect in the november general election. >> okay. so donita, these laws, talk about the different effects on the voters. what are they aiming to do? >> well, certainly we believe, and we intend to show that these laws have a disproportionate impact on african-americans and latinos. these laws basically tell you who can vote, how you can vote, where you can vote, and these laws we believe certainly will have an impact that will make it much more difficult for people of color to vote in the election
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in 2014 and if the law stays in effect in the future. >> donita, do you have a sense of how this affected the primary, the recent primary election? >> well, certainly -- i have not had -- looked at all of the turnout, and certainly in the primary election, which is always different from a general election, there are different races and there are different reasons why people come out, and whether it's a municipal, local election. so we haven't looked at that. but what we do know is that in 2012 north carolina had the 11th highest turnout in the country and this turnout we believe was based on the fact that there was opportunities to vote that made it easier for african-americans and latinos to participate and increase the voter turnout in that election to one of the highest or higher than most states in the country. >> i know. which the state is proud of. what about this i.d. requirement? that one goes into effect in
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2016 i believe. let's say this happens. the measure gets enacted and then it's found unconstitutional after the fact. is that a plausible scenario? >> that's always a possible scenario. we have some concerns with that photo i.d. because there's something called a soft rollout which means that while you do not have to have i.d. in 2014, you have to be alerted to the possibility that this law may be in effect in 2016, and we're concerned because when we looked at pennsylvania and the soft rollout there, we realized -- what we saw was it chilled the vote. it was being really -- the way it was being implemented or talked about was different statewide, and so we have some real concerns about that as we move into 2014 and whether people will be asked to have a photo i.d. even though they're not required to have it until 2016, so we certainly have some concerns with the photo i.d. law. >> i know we will be speaking with you again from the advancement project.
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spectacular fireworks on the fourth. america's soaring love affair with pyrotechnic patriots dates back before the nation was founded. while much was surely changed, in many ways america is still the same. a historian of the revolutionary era says the problems and issues facing america today are similar to those during the nation's early years. joining us now, dave richards, author of the new book "swords in their hands: george washington and the newburg conspiracy." thank you for joining us. >> thank you for interviewing me. i'm looking forward to that.
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>> let's get going. i want to talk about what does american policy today and a bitterly divided congress, how does that compare to the political climate in the revolutionary era? >> during the revolutionary era, congress was also badly divided. on the one side you had the nationalists. they wanted congress to have broad taxation authority. on the other side, you had members of congress who supported the idea of state sovereignty. they did not want congress to have broad taxation authority. they felt the power to tax should reside with the state legislatures. >> hmm, i am hearing some echoes of similar things there. what about social issues we wrestle with today? what are the sim larilarities w those back then? >> since the income gap is always in the news, let's talk about that. during the revolutionary war we had a big wealth gap. the officers in the continental army almost always if not always came from the upper classes of society. the soldiers came from the lower
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classes of society. consequently, the officers often looked down upon their soldiers. as a matter of fact, one historian has written that they regarded them as a vulgar herd. they could be very harsh disciplinarians. >> and this newburg conspiracy that erupted, it was a letter circulating through the continental army at the time, the problem was they weren't getting paid, right z? >> that was the big problem, lack of pay. the officers and soldiers were not paid for months, if not years. in fact, in one letter george washington speculated that some had gone six years without receiving any pay. >> good grief. >> imagine fighting for your country's independence for six years without receiving any pay. >> can't imagine that. very quickly, this whole thing was put off because george washington snuck into a meeting and they were talking about it and he shows up. >> that is correct. the meeting took place at the temple of virtue in new windsor, new york. he spoke to his officers for 10
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to 15 minutes and i deal with it in my book "swords in their hands." >> good plug. i appreciate it. that's a wrap of our show. we'll see you, dave. have a good sunday. rks ] [ chuckles ] i'd do anything to keep this guy happy and healthy. that's why i'm so excited about these new milk-bone brushing chews. whoa, i'm not the only one. it's a brilliant new way to take care of his teeth. clinically proven as effective as brushing. ok, here you go. have you ever seen a dog brush his own teeth? the twist and nub design cleans all the way down to the gum line, even reaching the back teeth. they taste like a treat, but they clean like a toothbrush. nothing says you care like a milk-bone brushing chew. [ barks ] if your denture moves, it can irritate your gums. try fixodent plus gum care. it helps stop denture movement and prevents gum irritation. fixodent. and forget it.
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