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nbc's stephanie gosk in honduras. the starting point for so many children risking their lives to make this 1,000-mile trek. >> almost every young person that we speak to says it is worth the risk because they are confident that what they will find where they are going is going to be better than what they are leaving behind. out of hiding. a new video shows what appears to be the leader of isis making a brazen appearance in iraq's northern city of mosul. is he now the most powerful man in iraq? iraq's ambassador to the united states coming here. and my interview with middle east envoy, former prime minister tony blair. >> i take full responsibility for what we did. the important thuing is to realize this is a long-term problem. its root cause is this extremism. the pope's plea after his historic meeting today with victims of sexual abuse. abuse by the catholic clergy.
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good day. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. thousands of undocumented immigrants continue to flood the u.s. border every day. as they await their fate in holding centers, some migrants say it's easy compared to the dangerous trek they began in central america. for how the obama administration seems paralyzed now by the crisis. the president planning a trip to texas this week but only to raise campaign cash. not to visit the border. i'm joined now by chuck todd, host of "the daily republicandown" and nbc news political director and chief white house correspondent. first, stephanie gosk has made her way to the guatemala/honduras border and talked to some who tried to make this 1,000-mile journey to the
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u.s. she joins me by phone from honduras. thanks for being with us. talk to me about the challenge and why these children, many of them children, are enduring this journey. you talked to them about the risks. >> yeah, andrea, the truth is that they feel confident that where they are headed is actually going to be a better place than where they are leaving from. especially here in san pedro sula. this is really known as the murder capital of the world. one of the most dangerous cities outside of the war zone that you'll see. and, really it goes back to the '80s and '90s, the area struggling to recover from years of civil war and conflict. and the truth is they really haven't recovered. the economy is incredibly bad. there are very few job opportunities for young people here. and there is a lot of drug violence. this is basically the circuit for colombian cocaine. a kind of weigh station. by one estimate, 80% of the
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cocaine that shows up in the u.s. actually gets funneled through honduras. in places like this, san pedro sula, you see all the ramifications of that. the violence, the gangs. we went to one of the most violent neighborhoods in this city and spoke to a group of 15, 16-year-olds and they just tell us these harrowing tales of gang violence. pressure on them to join gangs. one 15-year-old said his 10-year-old brother was shot and killed and his older brother just 16 years old actually has an ak-47 in the house and belongs in a gang. the pressure on them just where they live and the violence they see every day is a very real part of their lives. and it is something that a lot of them talk about when they talk about reasons they are leaving. but the reasons are more complex than that as well. there has been for about a year
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now this idea of flirting around places like honduras that when young people, when they arrive to the u.s., mothers of children when they arrive, that they are going to be allowed to stay. there was a director of one of the groups here who said that a lot of women believed if they could just show up at the border, the official border crossing and they would be allowed to stay. so there are a lot of reasons pushing people out the door here in honduras. >> stephanie it seems to have exploded this crisis with very little warning. has the gang violence in honduras, have the drug cartels become that much more violent recently? what's been the precipitating factor? >> well, the violence really has been increasing over the last five or six years. there hasn't been a real spike in violence to explain this surge of immigrants entirely. and that's why i add this idea that we spoke with -- and this director of this particular center dedicated to kind of lead
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patriots, these women and children that are deported from mexico before they nak to the u.s. and she said that it really was in her words, was a misinterpretation of immigration reform language coming out of washington that started some of the rumors. combined with that, you have the very real fact that there are honduran minors who have made it to the u.s. after this treacherous journey and, by law, they stay until their deportation process is completed. and that could mean months and in some cases with backlogs, that could even mean years. so it's going to look like to kids back here that they made it. and the kids we talk to say it's worth the risk of this journey, which is incredibly treacherous where they face bandits and drug cartels and just thieves to get to the border and try their chances in the u.s., even facing possible deportation.
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>> stephanie gosk on the heartbreaking journey for so many of these children. and here with me is chuck todd. of course, chuck, josh earnest just said at the white house press briefing today that the president is not going to the border. he doesn't seem to have an answer to the question that david gregory was asking jeh johnson in homeland security yesterday. let's play a little bit from "meet the press." >> will most of these children that we have seen in this desperate situation stay in america or will they be returned to their homes in central america? >> there is a deportation proceeding that is commenced against illegal migrants, including children. >> trying to get an answer to will most of them end up staying in your judgment? >> i think we need to find more efficient, effective ways to turn this tide around generally, and we've already begun to do that. >> what does that mean? your saying it's impractical to deport all of them who are here now? >> i'm saying that we've already -- we've already
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dramatically reduced the turnaround time for the adults and we're in the process of doing that for the adults with the kids. >> it's the goal of the administration to settle as many of these kids in america as possible? >> the goal of the administration is to stem the tide. >> stem the tide how? >> look, there's a reason he can't answer the way -- the law states, this law which was designed to deal with human trafficking, the law states these kids do have to stay until they get their immigration hearing. and he as a public official can't prejudge. there's some legal reasons why everybody, the administration sounds so ambiguous on this question. but this is where the common sense is sort of missing from what they are saying which is they aren't just speaking english here to people. are these folks going to get deported or not? history says most of them won't. >> the fact is that this administration has deported record numbers, which has alienated some of their -- >> record number of mexicans
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because the law is different. and that's -- i do think the law will get changed. hat he's saying if you read between the lines and i know this from my own reporting is they are looking for a change in that 2008 law, democratic congress, republican president that basically created this exception. >> there is an exception for political refugees. do they qualify as a political refugee if they are escaping the gang violence? >> and that's going to -- that's a question, i believe, our colleague bugged the state department about last week. and they won't answer that question because that adds more -- now that's supposed to be part of the immigration trial if you want to call it that or the review that you get is this political asylum. what is this that you are asking for. and given our politics when it comes to political asylum in the past in latin america, that's -- if that's -- if they make that case, it's hard to imagine we'll send them back. >> and it's becoming a
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horrendous political problem as well. >> nobody wants to deal -- you're going to get this $2 billion. he's going to get the money he needs. the supplemental. he's probably -- they have to send their formal request some time this week. they'll probably change the law in order to speed up because if he's going to do anything on immigration outside of this, politically, he's going to need the cover of looking like he's tougher on this deportation issue with these central american migrants. it's a sticky -- there's not a democrat in a red state that wants immigration on the campaign trail. >> chuck todd, thank you so much. stick around because for more on this national debate, we're joined by congressman luis gutierrez. a member of the judiciary committee, subcommittee on immigration. congressman, you've heard it all. what is the solution? our hearts are breaking for these children, yet you know where the republican house members are. they want border enforcement and the president is caught going
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into midterm elections between the hispanic caucus on one side and the red state senate candidates on the other. >> protect the children. keep them in a safe place. that's the tradition of america. that's why i love this country. that's why you and i are so fortunate we were born here. i know we think that each and every day. and follow our american traditions. so first of all, let's make clear of one thing. i watched "meet the press" and i watched the whole thing. i've got to tell you, i understand secretary of homeland security jeh johnson. i respect him a great deal. but the fact is, he told us they are detained and they are in removal proceedings leading to deportation if they do not win their case. now there's going to be actually two separate groups of people, right? there will be the adults with children. they are treated one way and then the unaccompanied children. i want to make clear that when i saw my friend and colleague raul labrador who is a lawyer and a
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lawyer who has done a lot of immigration work as a lawyer back in idaho state that he just wants the president to ignore the law, i was almost flabbergasted. on the one hand, they say he doesn't follow the law, that he's an emperor and a dictator and on the other hand when he does follow the law when it comes to unaccompanied minors, they say that he should just forget about the law. the fact is, 1997, the supreme court decision, that's when they said we're going to put these children, 72 hours after we receive unaccompanied minors, we're going to put them with health and human services. in 2002 dick armey's legislation, homeland security that said health and human services are going to have to take these children. and as chuck todd told us, 2008, bush signed a law. this is to protect children. let's remember what we're doing and shame on people for simply ignoring the law to score cheap political points against children and minors arriving in
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the united states of america. >> congressman, let me play a little of raul labrador, your republican congressional colleague from idaho. >> the thing this administration needs to do is immediately deport these families, these children. i know it sounds harsh. i know it sounds difficult, but they are creating a crisis at this time that is actually going to harm these children. >> so it's better to send them back? >> yeah, you know, here's the real problem that we have here is that no one wants to deal with the facts. you know, they aren't coming from belize. they aren't coming from panama or costa rica. and we know they aren't coming from mexico because we have a different treatment when it comes to mexican children coming unaccompanied. we simply send them back, right? so they are coming from three countries. and as you put at the very beginning at the top of the show, honduras is the murder capital of the world. it's followed by el salvador and
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guatemala. i want you to think one moment. the former police chief of guatemala and the first week of this -- of june, i'm sorry, last month, was found guilty of murder, number one. number two, there was a coup d'etat in honduras. there is no government. if you go to the state department, we might not know -- they might not be very clear about what's going to happen with these children. most of them will lose their petitions for asylum and most of them will be deported from the united states of america. that's the sad situation because those are our laws. but having said that, think about it a moment. go to the state department right now. don't go to honduras. don't go to guatemala. the police will not protect you. and if an american citizen is being told by its own state department that we cannot rely on the police to protect us, imagine, imagine what happens to the vulnerable girls and children that make that long trek. they are murdered. they are raped. and they are put into human bondage. and so i think what we should
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say to ourselves is, we have a humanitarian crisis. i think this is an important point that the american people must come to understand. the fact that there is so little cohesion in those governments and so little protection are the drug cartels. how do the drug cartels man tain their power? with american guns bought with american dollars because of american consumption of the drugs. the drugs don't stay in honduras. they don't stay in mexico. they come strit the streets of the united states of america. so i think we have a great responsibility and the debilitating of those countries and, yes, there were civil wars. last point, why aren't they coming from nicaragua? why aren't they coming? i can give you an answer. in 1997, we said to all the nicaraguans here we're going to treat you like cuban refugees because you were fighting against the sandinistas. and we're going to treat you like you're fighting against
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castro and all of those nicaraguans had already applied for american citizens and they brought their children and their families here. look. this is a broken system. it's a lot more complicate bud shame on people who want to exploit children. listen, if the president follows the law, which is what he's doing and that's what i would say to my friend raul. he's following the law, a law that you know very well. you want to change the law, i am here. i'm ready. let's sit down at a taubl and let get this done together. >> congressman, thanks very much. thanks for the history and the perspective. really appreciate it. another danger on the border of guatemala and mexico today. no doubt near where many of these children are making the trek to the u.s. a strong 6.9 magnitude earthquake rocking the city of san marcos in guatemala damaging buildings and triggering landslides. the tremors were felt across southern mexico including mexico city and reports of at least two fatalities. keeping a billion customers a year flying,
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pope francis met today for the first time with victims of sexual abuse by catholic clergy but in private. still he issued his strong eest comments yet beg forg giveness for the church hierarchy saying they must weep and make reparations for what they did to victims. why did it take so long and why now? nbc's anne thompson covers the vatican and joins me from 30 rock. this was an extraordinary meeting. he didn't permit any coverage of it or any pictures from it. what decision making went into all of this? >> well, the reason there are no pictures is because the vatican wanted to respect the victims' privacy. there were six victims in all, andrea. two from ireland, two from the uk and two from germany.
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and it is very important in fact, father lombardi who is the spokesperson for the vatican after the meeting said this was not a public relations event. this was a very serious meeting between the pope and these six people who had been abused by clergy. each one of them got to meet privately with the pope. they spent about an average of 30 minutes and one of them talked after that meeting. her name is marie kane. she's 43 years old. abused as a teenager. and she was very frank with the pope. she told him that cardinal sean brady of ireland must go. he is accused of not doing enough when he learned about a pedophile priest back in the 1970s. she said it's the hierarchy, the people who move priests from parish to parish. those are the people that have to go and that her faith won't be restored until that happens. she described the meeting as amazing, and she said she found it -- she was very happy that the pope is short because he did
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not tower over her and he captain eye contact throughout the entire meeting. >> fascinating event. historic event. this whole tragedy that you've been covering since it first came out in boston. thank you so much, anne thompson. great to see you. and coming up, check out the isis leader's watch. we'll ask iraq's ambassador to the u.s. next. get up! get up! get up! get up! loop me! bring back the awesome... yeah! yeah! yeah! with the great taste of kellogg's froot loops. follow your nose! eachwon't have a claim.wners that's why allstate claim free rewards gives you money back for every year you don't have one. and why if you're part of the other 5%, allstate offers claim rateguard. so your rates won't go up just because of a claim. no matter what comes your way,
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faithful. the u.s. government has a $10 million bounty on his head. i'm joined by the iraq ambassador to the united states. thank you very much, ambassador. >> thank you for having me. >> first of all, the decision to postpone the creation of a new government. great concern here in washington and in other capitals about this because there is a political vacuum. and it is delaying an american military response to the isis threat. why is maliki resisting all pressure, even from ayatollah sistani, the shia cleric, to step aside. >> this issue is within parliament. it's not with the prime minister and the executive. it's just the legislators. what they have done over the last few elections is that they have set up a package in which the prime minister, the speaker and the president all -- in one solution. that's still an issue as to who should be the speaker and the
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president and the prime minister. i think that may have been the reason behind the delay. it it certainly will not help the political situation. as to the american support, we are not aware of it being conditional. the united states are on the ground. they already have some there and may be supporting us and there may be more to come. we also know we need further support from the united states. >> maliki has asked for fighter jets and other high-tech weapons. but the bottom line is that privately, american officials are saying to me and others that they don't want to get involved in air strikes if it appears they are helping maliki who has, with all due respect, proved to them that he is a sectarian leader. that he has deposed generals, judges, taken actions, jailed sunni leaders and taken actions that prove to the sunnis that he
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cannot be the leader of all iraqis and to many shiites as well. >> the baghdadi video you mentioned proves this is not a sunni/shia issue. it's committed by somebody who claims to be leader of the sunnis on sunnis. the issue we have is one of terrorism, not one of pure sectarian issues where the prime minister has a hand in it. this is more dangerous. it's more immediate. it provides risk to the region. we need to focus on the issues here rather than personalizing it. i don't think it will benefit anybody. >> it is personal, though. it's personal to the extent that, let me read something that was in "the washington post" outlook section yesterday from a diplomat in the bush and obama administrations. he wrote after supporting maliki initially as did the american gpt, he wrote by 2010, i was urging the vice president of the united states, that was joe
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biden, and the white house senior staff to withdraw their support for maliki. i had come to realize that if he remained in office he'd create a divisive, despotic and sectarian government that would rip the country apart and devastate american interests. america stuck by maliki as a result. we now face strategic defeat in iraq and perhaps in the broader middle east. he has resigned in protest and finally came out in his column this week. >> and your question is what? >> whether maliki can be the leader of all iraqis? >> that's a question for the next parliament to address. he's just been elected as a parliamentarian. he will have a political bloc. he will have -- >> and he has the largest political bloc, clearly. >> he may be given the chance to form a government if other parliamentarians, sunnis, kurds and wants support him. that's democratic. surely we should respect that. >> is there not an extential threat to iraq -- >> if he doesn't get the chance, then that's also democratic. surely we should respect that.
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the situation we have now is that iraq is a threat one a geopolitical situation. the threat is immediate. the support has to be immediate. >> thank you very much, ambassador. >> thank you. >> very good to see you. and i talked to former british prime minister tony blair a few days ago about how to counter the isis threat. blair is now a middle east envoy and has been widely criticized at home for his role in joining george w. bush in toppling saddam hussein in the first place which many in the uk and here say was the root cause of today's crisis. here's part of that conversation. >> iraq exploding. we're seeing the insurgents from isis taking more and more territory and holding the territory. and the border with syria all but erased. jordan threatened potentially on to lebanon. a regional threat now. first of all, would this have happened if the united states had armed the rebel moderate
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rebel forces a year ago or longer and not let isis metastasize the way it has? >> i argue andrea that actions in syria a couple of years ago. i think it was justified. but i honestly don't think you can say what might or might not have happened. what is important is to deal with the situation we have now and having been through all these types of decisions myself when i was in government, i know how difficult they are. but i think you've got one basic problem which is this extremism that's rebuilt itself in syria, came back over the border into iraq. we've got in the short term to push them back as hard as possible. i think the president's right to send help to the iraqis to be helping the syrian opposition, the moderate syrian opposition. and but in the longer term we're going to have to get a strategy for the middle east that identifies correctly the problem which is this extremism and
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bears down on it wherever we can, however we can with the allies we have in the region. >> you've written that removing saddam hussein did not cause this conflagration. if we had not invaded in 2003, the united states, great britain and others, wouldn't iraq have been very, very different place? >> well, it's hard to judge because you know, obviously, if you were to ask some of the kurds against who saddam launched genocide or people in basra, the shia area, excluded from government, excluded from their rights of worship they'd probably say no. if you asked the people in baghdad who have had this terrible time in the last years, they'd probably say yes. the purpose of what i'm saying is not a shuffle off responsibility. i take full responsibility for what we did. the important thing is to realize, this is a long-term problem. its root cause is in this extremism. these regimes were information going to be sustained.
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we removed the one in iraq but the people removed the other ones. and so in the end, the question is, how do we help the region and can we help the region to a future in which this toxic mix of religion and politics is taken out of the situation and people are allowed to have the type of government that a majority of people in the middle east probably want. >> and here at home, the supreme court may be out of session but the fight over coverage of contraception rages on. that's right here next on "andrea mitchell reports."
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court temporarily blocked a contraceptive mandate for wheaton college, a religiously affiliated non-profit school and that drew a furious -- from the three women thane court. it doesn't seem to make sense but perhaps consistency is the hob goblin. it was the complete reversal of what they ruled. >> it is really concerning that any woman would lose access to birth control. we decided at planned parenthood because of the confusion, created by these decisions, we have just launched a new ability for women to text us at 69866. text birth control if they have any questions about how to access birth control coverage because a lot of women are calling us wondering what in the world this all means. >> justice sotomayor wrote in a
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really furious dissent, those who are bound by our decisions usually believe they can take us at our word. not so today. after expressly relying on the availability of the religious non-profit accommodation to hold that the contraceptive coverage requirement violates the religious freedom restoration act, it retreats from that position. that's what ginsburg had been warning about in her dissent. >> that's the concern portrayed as a very narrow decision that with only a couple kinds of contraception. it's not true. we now see it as wide open and the concern is now millions of women stand to lose birth control coverage. what's important that folks remember. this is not just about many women use birth control, 99% of women use birth control in this country but not just for unintended pregnancy. 500,000 use it to for -- to treat endometriosis.
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it's incredible to think that young women or any woman would be the victim of sexual assault, including on a college campus and not be able to get emergency contraception because of this. so planned paur ened parenthood committed to get every woman contraceptatives no matter where they work or go to school. >> also the erroneous conclusion that contraception is readily available. i think it was, frankly, cardinal dolan who said, well, people can get it at the convenience store. this is not something you pick up at 7-eleven. >> absolutely not. it requires a doctor's prescription. this is the most commonly used medical coverage for women in america. and that's why it's incredible to women, everywhere and many men, that we're still fighting about birth control in 2014. >> thank you so much, cecile richardson. thank you very much for being
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been found dead last week. but as netanyahu and his palestinian counterpart, president mahmoud abbas, tried to restore calm, a brutal police beating of an american palestinian teenager, a cousin of the slain palestinian youth is further inflaming the situation. tariq khdeir, a teen from tampa, florida, spoke to our own ayman mohyeldin after being released from jail. >> they started stepping on my back and beating me from behind. and here is when they were punching me and kicking me. >> what happened to your wrist? >> these are from the handcuffs when they took me to jail. >> nbc's ayman mohyeldin joins me by phone from jerusalem. ayman, what is the swas now because this has been so tense and they've been so concerned about other cities within israel, not just within the west bank blowing up as well. >> that's right. in fact, we are seeing at least within israel, a few security challenges that the government here is dealing with simultaneously.
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in the northern part of the country in the predominantly arab cities or palestinian cities inside israel proper, there have been ongoing clashes for the past few days triggered by the killing of this palestinian boy. and that has also fueled some of that anger that also we saw in east jerusalem over the past several days. and there is also the constant threat in the south of israel as the result of palestinian rocket fire from gaza into the southern part of the country. overnight the israeli air force carried out at least a dozen air strikes in what it says are response to palestinian rocket fire coming from there. and the militant group hamas says seven of its fighters were killed as a result of those air strikes. so it is a tense situation. the israeli security cabinet was meeting earlier today in an unplanned meeting and the indications coming out of that meeting is at the israelis government is prepared to widen operations inside gaza. so it is pushing the country closer to a full-blown conflict here. >> there does seem to be a real intent on the part of the two
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leaders, at least to try to avoid that eventuality. but they may not be able to control the situation. >> well, certainly both sides are feeling a tremendous amount of pressure from elements within their society. the palestinian leadership under the president mahmoud abbas really has struggled to rein in some of the palestinian factions in gaza. it's safe to say they don't necessarily take their orders from him or for that matter from any of the other groups inside gaza. that has been one of the major problems or challenges for israel that really it's been difficult to actually try to negotiate some kind of cease-fire since the palestinian factions are so bitterly divided and act independently. but there's also the growing pressure inside israeli society from right wing elements that are calling for revenge attacks against the palestinian population inside israel. that is something israel has come under criticism for over the course of the last week. an explosion on social media websites calling for revenge
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attacks against palestinians. and some of israel's politicians and notable leaders have gone on media and said that for the killing of those three israeli jewish teenagers, the palestinian population has to pay. and that has challenged and put pressure on the israeli leadership not only to condemn it but to also act upon the condemnation as they have said they've arrested those six individuals in the killing of the palestinian teenager. >> how do they explain the brutality of the attack on tariq khdeir? >> the israeli government has categorically rejected it from the prime minister up to the president shimon peres. they've described as as barbaric. there's been strong condemnation. at the same time it's the lower level of the israeli society and some politicians, particularly from settler movements and ultra right wing jews that have come out with calls to prevent attacks against the palestinians. and the details of this attacks
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were extremely disturbing. according to the autopsy report, it seemed the young boy, 17 years old, was kidnapped from just outside his family home. and then ultimately burned alive in a neighborhood here in jerusalem. and the brutality of it is obviously what has alarmed a lot of people and shocked a lot of people. and, really, a lot of the critics here, human rights organizations on the crowd say it is a result of the type of inciteful campaign that lasted for the better part of a week. there were marchs in jerusalem and elsewhere in the north of jerusalem by right wing israelis. in public, you know in public display calling for the death of arabs and palestinians. >> that's exactly the kind of thing that we don't need to see there. it's just extraordinary. ayman, thank you for all of your reporting from both sides. >> thank you. and eduard shevardnadze who helped transform the soviet
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i directed that we step up our aviation security. at some last point of departure, airports coming into the united states. this is not something to overreact to or overspeculate about, but it's something we felt was necessary. >> so for the second time in a week, the department of homeland security has tightened security procedures for flights bound to the u.s. from overseas. the concern is still that al qaeda offshoots in yemen may have discovered a way to put an explosive inside a battery powered device. as a result, passengers will have to power on all of their electronic devices before boarding. but that means making sure you have power.
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or else they could confiscate your smartphone or ipad. joining me now for his travel tips in the next 24 is jonathan capehart. this gets a little complicated. if we're traveling overseas and have not had time to power up and then if you hit that security barrier, if your laptop or whatever is not powerable, you could lose it. >> you could lose it. i think this is something that secretary johnson and the folks at homeland security and tsa are going to have to work out some of those kinks. i think what we're going to see is a whole lot of people in some airports overseas crowding around power outlets or sharing, you know, recharging cords to get their electronics at least over a few nuggets so that they can get through security. this is something really that isn't new. when i read this report, i thought this sounds vaguely familiar. and i remember early, early on
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when, you know, they asked us to take our laptops and put them in separate bins that they would ask you to open it and turn it on to see that it boots up. so the fact that -- and then that stopped for a long time. the fact that that's starting again at certain airports overseas is interesting. >> well it was laptops right after 9/11. now it's going to be smartphones, anything, everything electronic. you have to figure out how to organize yourself and some of us who are a little more disorganized and don't always have the right outlets for different countries. we're talking about overseas flights. it gets a little more complicated in terms of sharing the power outlets. but this does indicate the concern about the threat in yemen where they have the bombmaker who has everyone scared. this is the same bombmaker who was responsible for putting the -- was it the fax machine that was on the flight? >> i remember that a while back.
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they are very creative. terrorists are very creative in trying to blow people up, whether they are americans or folks overseas. and the fact that homeland security and tsa is on top of it enough to warn travelers, american travelers in particular, that they have to make sure that they are going to have to do these things and, thus, make sure that their devices are powered up when they get to the airport. i'll take the inconvenience of that over the alternative. >> indeed. part of this is also offshoots of al qaeda feeling competitive with isis. isis has shown that it is very good at publicity. and public relations. it's really isis inc.almost. there's a competitive drive among some of these power groups to try to do something big, and big means an american target or british target. that is their thinking. by the way, jonathan, i must have been the only one that missed your birthday last week. happy belated birthday.
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>> thank you very much, andrea. sdhat that does it for us f "andrea mitchell reports." tomorrow, more on all of this. the latest terror threats from nbc and msnbc's counterterrorism expert michael leiter. follow the show online and on facebook and twitter. and "ronan farrow daily" is up next. i'm meteorologist jeannette. here's a look at your business travel forecast. much of the nation looking at tranquil conditions except for the midwest. that part of the country will be looking at the threat for severe weather. storms that are capable of producing damaging winds, large hail and even some tornadoes. meanwhile, the heat and humidity return to the northeast.
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>> effectively appearing in film like this it's like saying, you can't get me. leaked video of oscar pistorius re-enacting the night he killed his girlfriend reeva steenkamp. >> at one point even holds his hand in front of him like a gun all without legs. >> i felt the shark just gnawing into my chest. >> the man who stared a great white shark in the face as it bit into him. >> i was staring at this shark eyeball to eyeball. washington becomes the second state to allow the sale of recreational marijuana. and many there already bracing for a pot shortage. >> he sold everything he has. he does not have another nug to sell. pop quiz, everybody. what's the 26th amendment do? yep. and a lot of people out there faking it right now. i'm talking to you nodding knowingly to your co-workers. it lowered the voting age to 18 and says the right to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the
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united states or any state on account of age. this hour, college students are challenging a north carolina voter i.d. law arguing that it does just that. take a look. starting in 2016 under this law, all voters must show i.d. student i.d. cards are not acceptable. it gets rid of preregistration for 16-year-olds to 17-yearlies, reduces the number of early voting days. so procrastinate or just be young and no democracy for you. joining me to discuss, msnbc contributor, robert and m montraveous king. he joins us by phone. he battled similar restrictions when he ran as a student last year. montravias, you are interesting on this issue because you were originally barred from running for city council because you used your university address, wh
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