united states or any state on account of age. this hour, college students are challenging a north carolina voter i.d. law arguing that it does just that. take a look. starting in 2016 under this law, all voters must show i.d. student i.d. cards are not acceptable. it gets rid of preregistration for 16-year-olds to 17-yearlies, reduces the number of early voting days. so procrastinate or just be young and no democracy for you. joining me to discuss, msnbc contributor, robert and m montraveous king. he joins us by phone. he battled similar restrictions when he ran as a student last year. montravias, you are interesting on this issue because you were originally barred from running for city council because you used your university address, which actually neither

candidates nor voters were allowed to do. rachel mad cow called your case canary in the coal mine for this issue of youth voter suppression in this country. is there a concerted under way in north carolina to keep yong people out of the political process? >> hi, ronan, first of all, thank you for having me today. absolutely, you're correct. i had to fight just to get on the ballot in north carolina. this is 2013. just last year, as you said, i was living on campus at the time. my senior year of elizabeth city university in elizabeth, north carolina, and i decided to run for city council. i wanted to make a difference in the elizabeth city community, and i wanted to have a great impact on my university. i ran from campus using my campus i.d., my campus address, of course. the same address that i've used

to vote for the last four years. and my right to participate in that process was challenged by the republican party board of relations in that county. of course, i went on to win, to defeat the challenge. i also went on to win election here in north carolina. but as you said, yes, it was a fight to do that, and i think it's been going on for some time and there is a concerted effort, i believe, on the part of the republican party to disenfranchise students, not just at historically black universities but all across north carolina. they know that a vast majority of students are for values that are forward thinking and progressive. and that's why they don't want us at the ballot box. so absolutely you're correct. i definitely believe and i know for a fact because i've experienced it myself.

there is a concerted effort to disenfranchise the student vote in north carolina. >> do you think that age discrimination is something in politics we don't talk about enough in general? this case illustrates this is a constitutionally protected class of people. should this be more on our radar as a vulnerable group as well that needs protections against the polls? >> absolutely. absolutely. age discrimination to some people is unheard of. but i have experienced it firsthand. ronan, i'm still experiencing it firsthand as the youngest member on eliz with city council, as the youngest elected official in the state of north carolina. i'm experiencing it and it's something that as america that we must begin to talk about if we're going to move forward as a nation. everyone, our constitution says, we all have a right to participate in this democracy. so no one should be limited because of their age. >> it is such an important

voting bloc, too. politically it can change the outcomes of elections. we saw it in 2012. 22 million youth voters cast their ballots in that election and they voted overwhelmingly democratic. >> that's right. >> in north carolina, the youth turnout was especially big. 56% in 2012. i'll go to our panel on this one. rodell if not political reasons, what is the motivation for cracking down on young voters joining the political process specifically? is there really an argument for this for being fraud? >> listen, it's definitely a political problem. if you wanted to be charitable you'd say that this is a solution in search of a problem. but if you wanted to be honest, what you're doing is a partisan attempt to limit voting, not only of minorities but of other members of the rising american electorate, including students. people perceived to not have a voice in the process. i think what you really have is politicians in one hand with a bunch of polling data in the other hand, a bunch of census data and realizing if they are

going to win these elections or to continue to keep power, that they're going to have to limit voting. and that means shutting down voting for the elderly, for students, for african-americans, for latinos. and this has been going on for a long time. i applaud these students in north carolina for standing up and becoming part of this suit. >> robert, this issue of voting fraud which keeps coming up in these conversations when republicans justify these kinds of crackdowns isn't a real problem and a real reason to risk keeping young people away from the polls. we have research from slate and the new america foundation counting the instances of voter fraud. and take a look at this map. we have a graphic here. what they found essentially is that it's not a widespread problem around the country. you see isolated instances. you see that map there. but by and large this isn't actually the scourge that would seem to require these draconian measures to keep people away from the polls. >> my response is three things. one, thank you to mr. king for

all of his public service and what he continues to do to his community. secondly, every single american that is eligible to vote should have the right to vote if in fact he chooses to exercise that vote. anyone being disenfranchised, whether it's their age or skin color or whatever it is is despicable and it's not american. if republicans are doing that, i'm going to call them out. if democrats are going to do it i'm going to call them out. to the third point. this is where it's an interesting conversation for me ronan because, as i said before, everyone should be allowed to vote. but i don't -- i also am trying to recognize in my brain if, in fact, you need a valid photo license to purchase cigarettes or to purchase alcohol or get on an airplane, i think it should be okay to have a photo i.d. to prove that you are who you say you are. granted if you live on a college campus and the only i.d. you have is a photo i.d. from a university, i think that should be valid because most of the universities right now are so sophisticated in their i.d. that it's almost as encrypted as a

driver's license. so in my opinion i think there needs to be a happy balance here and there needs to be some type of middle ground that republicans and democrats and all americans can come together and say, yes, people should be allowed to vote but we should make sure that that vote is validated with some type of a card. >> on that issue of voter i.d. cards, in some states you can use gun registration i.d. cards. in north carolina, under this law, you can use military i.d., veteran i.d. cards. state universities aren't allowed. and as you point out, robert, that's the only kind of i.d. that a lot of these young people have. rodell, going over to you. should state university i.d.s be allowed? they are issued by government institutions. >> exactly. they are issued by the state. and robert's argument kind of shows the transparent partisanship in some of these voter i.d. laws. they are picking and choosing who gets to vote. if it's a state i.d. if it's a state college i.d., why should that be discounted while may be

a state that has a lot of hunters, gun owners, they get to vote with their i.d. it seems extremely partisan and, you know, i think the other thing about this is that there's a false equivalency when we talk about voting fraud versus voting restrictions. ronan, as you talked about at the beginning of the program, these -- this idea of voting fraud is very few and far between. you don't see a lot of it, but what you do see and it's shown by the naacp, by the leadership conference on civil rights, year after year, time after time of instances of people being disenfranchised and not being able to vote. >> that's exactly right. it seems to be unfolding around the country this way. more and more of these efforts to crack down in the wake of the supreme court decision last year that took away some key provisions of the voting rights act. north carolina was one of the first to pass this kind of legislation after that decision. if this challenge to that

legislation succeeds, how big of an impact do you think it will have on the national fight over th this issue? will we see other challenges to challenge this law, do you think? >> north carolina is a major player right now. it was a major player in the 2008 presidential election. it was a major player in the 2012 presidential election. it's going to be a major player in 2016. and all eyes on north carolina right now with this voter i.d. law. north carolina was the first state to even pass a voter i.d. law of this kind after the 2008 presidential elections. so we have seen that north carolina has a big impact on the rest of it and even some states such as pennsylvania that have passed other laws similar to what north carolina has passed.

but, obviously, nothing has been more repressive than north carolina. this law, we know for a fact, even the attorney general eric holder attested to the fact that this law was strategically designed to disenfranchise minorities, students, people of color and the elderly in north carolina. they are requiring older people who don't have an i.d., who won't have any way of obtaining an i.d. by required deadline to show up in 2016 with an i.d. some of these people don't even have a social security card or anything like that. >> that's exactly right. >> this is, it's outrageous. and they know this. >> you pointed out perfectly montravias. and this is a challenge to the voting rights of all of these different vulnerable demographics. minorities but also young people. for the 1st time we're seeing yong people rise up against these kinds of laws. something that resinates with me as a young person myself.

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this means warren. or probably it doesn't. "new york post" led with this bombshell sunday. president obama back in elizabeth warren with that choice headline. this means warren. reneging a deal . take a look at this quote.

barack, michelle and valerie have been talking about elizabeth warren for quite some time says an obama administration source. the obamas believe that warren sees things from the same ideological viewpoint as they do. she's committed as a progressive who wants to transform america into a european-style democratic socialist state. so let's get this straight. klein was talking to someone who works for the administration is on a first name basis with barack and michelle and is privy to their private thinking. also, that person thinks that they want to create a european-style socialist state. okay then. the internet has lost its mind with the claims in the article and the new book which buzzfeed calls the funniest of 2014. maybe ever. joining me is robert and rodell. thanks for coming back, guys. this narrative is getting roundly debunkt. is it going to gain any attention with the public? >> no, here's why.

look. the reality is hillary clinton most likely will be the democratic nominee an the left. and everyone knows that. secondly, everyone knows there's a little fiction here and also the reality is that senator warren is wicked smart. she is a trail blazer. republicans and democrats are slightly intimidated because of her political prowess and traveling around the country raising money for democrats and also her ability to be able to poke the bear if you will. it's great. it's great that she is being this kind of forwardly thinking person but i do not think that edward klein is on the money here when it comes to her running for president. >> she's been less than on the money a number of times. how could we ever doubt a claim from someone who reported that hillary clinton is secretly a lesbian. that chelsea clinton was conceived through rape. he's responsible for a number of colorful stories along those lines. do you think the joke is on us in the media for airing these ideas and i appreciate the irony of us doing a segment debunking

the piece and therefore giving publicity to those stories. it's a story we debated that. you have to come out and say meg it's worth regarding these with a dose of skepticism. >> blood feud sounds like a steven seagal movie and reads even worse. whether we should be spending time on it, i should tell you this. i think we've seen this before. when you let outright lies just kind of lie there and thinking that -- and ask john kerry about this in 2004. that you think that no one is going to believe any of these. then they start gaining traction. so in some ways you have to debunk it even though you know it's silly. i'll say one thing about ed klein. he's a great fiction writer and knows how to sell a book. there's been a lot of buzz about this, even though everyone that's talking about it are talking about just how ridiculous these claims are and how unfounded they are. yet, they are still talking about it. >> it's put everyone in a difficult situation. i've seen a number of article covering it in this way. we don't want to give it a platform but we felt they need

to be bedunked. we purchased the book and read through it but we kept our receipt. have our cake and teet too. maybe warren runs and obama endorses here and we all look like idiots. >> do you see it as a possibility that some prominent obama administration official's will maybe court her to run? >> 2016 is a long time away. hillary clinton could change her mind. she hasn't made up her mind yet. vice president biden could change his mind as well. i remember back in 2006, ronan, when a lot of people were talking about barack obama and i was one of those individuals saying i just don't see him running in 2008. and the reason is because he went on "meet the press" and said he wasn't running. look, he's our president now. anything can happen. >> that's the mantra of politics, fur sure. and klein aside, rodell, what kind of relationship do the

clintons and the obamas have right now? >> listen, she was a great secretary of state. other than that, i honestly couldn't tell you other than i know that they have a deep amount of respect for each other. that's been forged over, let's just be honest, a very -- it was a very tough hard fought 2008 race, and things were said. but also, things were reconciled. and i think that they have shown over time that they can work together extremely well as she did when she was secretary of state. >> right. and look. as entertaining as these yarns from ed klein are about her throwing things and dropping f bombs, i get the sense these are competent adult professionals that treat each other with respect. robert, you mentioned joe biden. i think rodell mentioned him in the what-if scenarios. where do you think he fits into all of this? >> he's stuck between a rock and a hard place. obviously, he's a friend of hillary clinton but he's the

sitting vice president and historically vice presidents want to be president. he probably feels he's the most qual fight person in the race. he probably is given his 30-plus years in public office and eight years at vice president. but the reality is the popularity test is all on hillary clinton's favor. so he really needs to understand what secretary clinton is going to do and if, in fact, she is going to run. i just don't see a plausible way of him getting the nomination with her in the race. she says she's not going to run, i think vice president biden most likely will be the nominee. >> rodell, robert, appreciate your participating in that little fact check. stick around, everybody. the blade runner removes his blades for a demonstration of what he says happened that night. and it's actually triggering an interesting viral debate about journalistic ic ethics. you have to see this one. ♪ in the nation, the safest feature in your car is you.

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the next bin laden is what he's being called. but bin laden never had a swath of territory so protected he could appear in public. in a scheduled appearance. and he never had this much flair for bling. all that is a case for abu bakr al baghdadi, the mysterious head of isis. he claims this video network shows him preaching at a mosque friday in mosul. until now, this single grainy image was all we had of him. nbc news has yet to confirm the new video's authenticity. it's getting a lot of attention for what it says about how invulnerable baghdadi appears to be. and also for the bling.

check out that watch. we have an image there. bulgari, role snex it appears to not be cheap. joining us, michael crowley for "time." david, considering the u.s. government has $10 million on this guy's head, that this was apparently a prearranged appearance in a very public place, does the fact there were no repercussions, that we couldn't get him then speak to how deep the void of intelligence is in this area? >> absolutely. and this is a real power play by him. a pr power play. he's trying to show other jihadist young men come fight with me. come join isis. look how powerful i am. i can stand in public, deliver this long sermon and there apparently was no american intelligence, any sense at all that he was there. >> michael, this guy has been dubbed the next bin laden. bin laden never went this far in terms of making public appearances that were announced like that. what should that tell us about al baghdadi and his strength

right now? >> well, you know, part of it is just a reflection of a core goal of isis that bin laden didn't share or didn't emphasize as a short-term goal which is acquiring territory and creating essentially a state. so if you have a state, you are going to have -- it's going to be defended and you'll have freedom of movement and government within it. and i think this is after having declared the establishment of this new caliphate which he did several days ago, i think baghdadi is trying to show, here i am leading my state. i'm not, you know, in a way, it is maybe an implicit contrast with bin laden. i'm not hiding in a mountain cave. i'm not a fugitive. i am a powerful as david just said. it's a power play. i'm a powerful figure who controls territory and i feel safe in its but we've amassed so much of it and we are strong. that's what's remark believe. >> he's saying i'm the caliph of

this caliphate. that's the signal they want to send. the other thing everyone is talking about is this watch which is an out of character trait that everyone noticed immediately. why is it getting so much attention? >> you mentioned the word legitimate. the key thing and what he tried to say, he was a humble servant of god. he's the ultimate ruler. but he's trying to say, i'll -- i'm serving you. this watch and his track record of kidnapping people for ransom, of killing people, shias in particular and sunnis that resist him could undermine his legitimacy as he's seen of accruing wealth or profiting from all of this or not being just. this is undermining him. he's trying to say i'm a holy leader. i'm pious, i'm not greedy. he has to be careful how he plays this and how do his forces treat people in iraq. and earlier in iraq, during the u.s. occupation, al qaeda members were very brutal and eventually those sunni tribes turned against them because of

the brutality. let's see what baghdadi does. >> that will be the more substantive equation. in terms of optics, interesting how his own people and followers react to something like that watch. it seems like the equivalent of the pope's designer shoes. michael, on a more serious note, there were reports of strikes in iraq yesterday. a lot of confusion about exactly where those came from with the u.s. and pentagon saying, we weren't behind this. the iraqi government saying we don't have going to say about it. do you have any information as of today, as to the providence of those strikes? >> no, it's still not clear. and, you know, iraq is such a complicated situation right now. something blows up, you don't know if it's isis if it's the iraqi security forces if it's the iranians potentially, the united states. i think at this point, the u.s. and iran as well are not at the point of using force and striking in the country. i would strongly suspect it's

the iraqi security forces. by the way, russia has provided baghdad with fighter jets and there were some reports they maybe had russian pilots. so a lot of potential actors here but it's still unclear. we do no know that for some time now the iraqi security forces have been waging a counteroffensive with some success. not as much as they would like but for instance they do seem to have cleared out much of tikrit which was saddam hussein's hometown not far north of baghdad. but so it remains to be seen what happened there. >> david, does the viral pick-up of this video speak to a failure on the part of international companies that provide platforms for online sharing of this kind to crack down on this kind of content? the comparison that leads to my mind is the radio broadcasts of incitement during that genocide. this is a very different kind of situation. can we learn a situation? everyone looks back at that set of circumstances and says if only we shut down the lines of public communication that we're

inciting people? >> a great point. and what do you do? where do you draw the line and who decides what should be on the web and what shouldn't be on the web. vladimir putin has a different idea of what should be online versus the united states government. or the chinese government. so i don't have a good answer on that. it is a big success for him this is getting so much attention. and another big success for him is the fact the iraqi parliament met and then decided they're not going to meet again until the middle of august. this is a government under siege. there's no sign that they're going to share power and no sign that maliki will resign. the administration wanted him out. they wanted a new government. it's not happening. >> there seems to be no hope of leadership or compromise in this situation. which obviously provides no counterbalance to this security threat from isis. it's also a security threat that extends to us back home in america. obviously, these new homeland security regulations announced. how dangerous is this rise in threats from splinter groups,

you know, al nusra, isis itself, and how much is homeland security taking that into account when they pass these new restrictions on electronics. they are reporting increased bomb-making capacity from these groups. >> it's extremely important. there was a good study out of the rand corporation a couple weeks ago that's documented the proliferation of these kind of sunni radical groups. many of them inspired by or affiliated with al qaeda really showing that you can emperically track their growth over the last five to ten years. but a lot of those groups don't have the capacity and in many cases even the intention to strike the united states or to strike the west. however, some of them do. and i think that it's important to remind people that for all the talk of isis right now, which is a despicable, brutal and frightening group, you know, there's a good case to be made that the real threat, the top threat to the u.s. right now remains in yemen.

al qaeda in the arabian peninsula which is a group that's come close to hitting us over here in the u.s. a couple of times already. and which has a sort of infamous bombmaker who is believed to be a kind of a pioneer in developing these explosives that can get through airport security. i suspect that what's happening now with dhs is that they are responding to the latest innovations from this guy in yemen who they have been worried about for some time. i've heard the tsa chief talk about this guy specifically as being possibly the most dangerous terrorist in the world. so al qaeda in yemen, i think, is the one to worry about the most right now. >> so if you can't turn onnior phone and it gets taken away by tsa, maybe that, too, is the terrorist consequence that we face in today's travel climate. appreciate it. david rohde, michael crowley, you've been great. up next, some good news. dozens of girls reportedly escaped from boko haram. and there's a fascinating link

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remember bring back our girls? the trafficking of those hundreds of nigerian girls captured the world's attention but only briefly. today a reason to pay attention again. 60 girls and women kidnapped by boko haram two weeks ago have reportedly escaped. even if they are true, some 219 schoolgirls kidnapped in april are still missing. still likely facing being sold into slavery or marriage. and long after the world turns away from those girls in nigeria, hundreds of thousands of people are going to disappear into the dark world of human trafficking every single year. it's a problem right here in the united states. just two weeks ago the fbi rescued 168 children in a coast to coast crackdown on sex

traffickers. and that was just the tip of the iceberg. joining me is malika salazar from rights for girls. she led the effort to shut down craigslist sex ads that serveda as the leading site that led children into sex trafficking. thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> they received more than 9,000 reports of unique cases of human trafficking between 2008 and 2012. how big of a problem is this in the united states? >> so what's important to recognize is that this is -- this is a problem of american children. we know, according to the fbi, that there are 293,000 children, american children at risk for being bought and sold within our country. and that most of them are girls and between the ages of 12 and 14. so this is -- when we talk about trafficking, we usually think about nigeria or cambodia or

india. or we think of people brought into our country who are bought and sold. but, really, what we see happening in terms of children who are bought and sold for sex is that they are our children here in the united states. >> and there are some interesting facets to this issue in terms of events being gateways into this that you'd never expect. texas attorney general greg abbott said in 2011 the super bowl is commonly known as the single largest human trafficking incident in the united states. why is that? >> we know in many situations where there are major sports events or political events, that there is a desire and demand for sex with underage girls. that that is considered to be part of the experience of the event. and because we don't have a culture of crime and punishment for buying underage girls, those individuals who want to buy children can do so with absolute

confidence. we have here a culture of imp n impunity around purchasing children for sex. >> let me push on you to elaborate on that. you say we don't have a culture of crime and punishment around purchasing young girls for sex. to a lot of people watching at home they'll say, wait a second. that seems like the most abhorrent crime i could imagine. how do we not have a culture of punishing that? >> so we just had the fbi raid that you referred to at the beginning of the segment. there were 281 traffickers who were arrested as they should be. the fbi did not make one arrest of a buyer. and that is typical of how the fbi does these raids every year that they do arrest the traffickers but the buyers go free. and across the country, you do not see a commitment to arresting and prosecuting buyers. even though these individuals in any other context would be

charged with statutory rape, child endangerment, sexual assault of a minor. but something happens that when the rape is paid for, it is not considered to be criminal. and that is part of the story that we must change. >> that is a fascinating distinction that many, i think, wouldn't expect. we're prosecuting the pimps but not the buyers. why do you think that is, malika? >> i think part of it is that we have a responsibility to name this issue as crime against our children. so we refer to these children as child prostitutes, which connotes choice and agency. we don't talk about these children as victims. so part of the work here is recognizing that this is a crime against our children and naming it as such. i also think that there's some issues here around race and class. so what we know is that the pimps, the traffickers are the black and brown men we put behind bars anyway.

the buyers tend to be middle class professional married men and that doesn't really fit our construct of who a criminal is. >> the national human trafficking resource center reported a 259% increase in calls between 20 o 8 and 2012 on this issue. is this problem getting worse or are we just seeing more reporting? >> i think it's both. i think you are seeing more reporting, which we need. i think the other piece is that it is getting worse because there is a culture of impunity. and as long as we have a culture of impunity, for buying children for sex, we will continue to see demand. and once we have the demand that is unrestrained, the marketplace becomes greater and greater for child sex. and this is the part of trafficking in the united states that we have not addressed. the only piece of legislation that we have that actually holds the buyer accountable has just passed the house of

representatives. that piece of legislation, which is known as the justice for victims of trafficking act recognizes that it's not only the trafficker who is responsible. it's the buyer, too. and that the buyer should also be held accountable. that legislation is now being deliberated by the senate judiciary committee. we must pass that legislation because that's the only way to address the uptick in child trafficking that we are seeing. >> malika, it's such a daunting problem, so unexpected that it runs rampant in the way you explain it does in this country. we appreciate you joining this week's call to action. and for that call to action we'll have everyone at home weigh in on exactly this issue. we're asking you to urge the senate to pass that bipartisan justice for victims of trafficking act. it aims to rescue domestic victims going through the most unimaginable trauma. it ames to track down their employers.

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don't go in the water. a tag line for "jaws" and also real life. on saturday, a southern california swimmer was bitten by a great white after the shark was irritated by a fisherman's hook. >> i saw that shark just eyeball to eyeball, just like you and i. exactly the same distance. and it came in and bit me. >> and you thought your weekend

was rough. a new study suggests great white populations are on the rise, and wait, it gets better. according to mother jones, people filled with terror about sharks chomping down on your leg should put this in perspective. the death toll from jelly fish is definitely more than from sharks. sharks kill about 8 to 10 people a year. jelly fish kill at least 50. great news, that population is spiking too. so where did this impending shark and jelly fish apom lips come from, and how do who we survive it? joining me now is wildlife biologist jeff corwin. why are we seeing these spikes? >> the shark story is actually good news. these were creatures facing a lot of pressure. their prey species they target, especially seals and sea lions, those populations have been on the rise on the east and west coast. we're also conserving sharks better. because of that, we're actually

seeing an increase in great white shark population. >> that's terrific to hear, if a little insensitive to the guy who just got bitten. on the jelly fish front, one thing i've seened argued over and over again as we look at these rising numbers around the world, there are all sorts of things coming up. they're clogging nuclear plants. some people are attributing that to global warming. is there a global warming component there? >> there very well could be a connection. you're right, they can cost hundreds of millions of dollars in damage worldwide. jellyfish in the winter months are killed. but as waters are warming, some of these jellyfish aren't dying and some species are getting as big as volkswagen bug vehicles. so populations are increasing. there's another theory that the reason why the populations of jellyfish are going up is because the predators that eat

jellyfish, their population is dropping due to overfishing. so you take a warming ocean, making good habitat, a decrease in predator, it sort of opens up the buffet for an increase in jellyfish population. >> so headline, jellyfish the size of volkswagen beetles. what are you supposed to do if you're attacked by a jellyfish? >> it's kind of a wives tale you should pee on a wound from a jellyfish. you want to apply ice to chill down the area or apply seawater. you want to clean that area. basically, how a jellyfish works, it has this amazing, really cool device. it's like a miniature harpoon. it shoots that out. well, your skin could be covered with thousands of these little harpoons just waiting to explode. so you want to pick and clean that away, apply water, and if it's very serious -- there's only a few species that are really dangerous, but if you're having an anaphylactic or

allergic reaction or are bitten by a dangerous species like the box jellyfish of australia, you need medical attention because you can die. it's rare. >> so for people who agree with you that it's very cool but also don't particularly want to sustain this themselves, what parts of the country should they stay out of the water in? >> well, what's interesting about jellyfish is they sort of come in blooms. they're either there or they're not there. you probably know living on the east coast, walking along the beach, sometimes you see tons of jellyfish. where we live, although it can be a bit painful and irritating, we tend not to get the really dangerous ones. places like florida, where you can get the manawar. the most dangerous jellyfish are in the tropical waters off of austral australia. it is the box jellyfish.

it's only about this big, but one sting from a jellyfish can kill in theory about two dozen adult men. so it's very, very toxic. >> jeff corwin, thank you for that sobering update. appreciate it. >> i'm going for a swim. >> great. you first. that wraps things up. thank you all for joining me at home. now it's time for "the reid report" with my colleague joy reid. joy, do we have you here? there you are. you haven't been eaten by a jellyfish. please don't go in the water, joy. >> i'm terrified of deep water. i wouldn't go near a jellyfish. >> all right. have a good show. >> all right. thanks a lot. take care. next on "the reid report," the cycle of blood letting and retaliation that's broken out between israelis and palestinians. also, advocates try to beat back north carolina's student targeting voter i.d. law. and the politics of the supreme court's hobby lobby ruling. it's not over, folks. not by a long shot. "the reid report" is next. collection is here. ♪

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hello, everyone. i'm joy reid. this is "the reid report." we begin with the rising tensions between the israelis and the palestinians. >> the deaths of four teenagers have touched off a new wave of violent clashes. the 17-year-old was kidnapped and reportedly burned alive. >> graphic video appears to show israeli police beating the 15-year-old florida cousin. >> i remember them punching me. after a couple of punches, i went unconscious. >> the tensions in gaza that could lead to all-out conflict. >> it was just with my cousin. i still remember his voice, and i still can't believe he's dead. >> then reverend william barber, the driving force between north carolina's moral monday's movement joins us to talk about the lawsuit that seeks to overturn his state's strict new voter i.d. law.

plus, the political blowback for republicans who last week were high fiving over the supreme court's hobby lobby ruling. but we start in the middle east, where israel is in the midst of a careful balancing act at this hour. on the one hand, managing the outrage over an apparent revenge killing of a palestinian teenager as well as the fallout over the beating of his american cousin. while at the same time carrying out retaliatory strikes against hamas, blamed for the killing of three israeli teens. amid protests over the killing of the 16-year-old, israel has arrested six jewish suspects, while prime minister benjamin netanyahu phoned the family, reportedly calling the killing reprehensible and abhorrent. a preliminary autopsy report released this weekend states that evidence suggests the boy was lit on fire while he was still alive. on sunday, the teen's american cousin was released from custody after police