welcome to "the ed show." i am ari melber in for ed. let's get to work. >> it's been a violent fourth of july weekend in chicago. >> tragic weekend in chicago. >> more than 60 people have been shot, nine died. >> isis presents a direct threat to the homeland and syria now iraq. >> chicago has had a devastating record of violence in recent years. >> the police have had their hands full this weekend. >> it's not like a hurricane or earthquake. this didn't have to happen. >> the white house on down to the city there should be a response. >> mayor ram emanuel declined to address the violence this weekend. >> what do we do? how do we stop this? >> they feel abandoned. >> the victims range from teens to a 60-year-old woman. >> if we get down to 1,000 troops by 2017 it will haunt us far worse than iraq iraq. >> hundreds of police dispatched

in dangerous neighborhoods. >> police will face a battle until gun laws change. >> gang, drug, violence problem that still persists in chicago. >> and we wouldn't accept it in iraq, we shouldn't accept it in chicago. >> this thing is in danger of spiraling out of control. >> lately many conservative lawmakers have been focused almost exclusively on danger abroad. >> in this case i think that our secretary of state, secretary kerry, could go to the region and try to maybe do a little shuttle diplomacy. this thing is in danger of spiraling out of control. >> when the united states leaves a vacuum, others will go in, others will fill it, bad actors will show up and we're seeing that right now. and my greatest concern is for what he intends to do and i think they have the capability and the intent to attack the united states. >> attacks on the u.s. are certainly a major issue, but

after a terribly violent independence day weekend in chicago, we also need to focus on a attacks here in the u.s. more than 80 people were shot and at least 14 people killed in a flurry of gun violence this weekend. today rahm emanuel who left his post as president obama's chief of staff to become mayor of chicago, he released a statement on this tragic weekend. mayor emanuel said the number of shootings and murders that took place over the holiday weekend is simply unacceptable and points out that we still have work to do. the solution does not just include policing, he said. we also have to give our young people alternatives to the street and as a community, we need to demand more of ourselves and our neighbors. emanuel has been focused on a wide-range of crime fighting approaches as he told msnbc's chris hayes. >> when a community engages and takes ownership, it's not how many cops you v it's how many community activists you have working with public safety officials, showing our kids and our families these are your

stre streets, they don't belong to those with guns. >> the mayor emphasizes the overall decline in violent crime in the city and he's not wrong about these broader trends. the city has cut crime from its peak but faced criticism for trying to cook the books on these crime statistics. >> the police department and the mayor's office is saying no, crime is down, don't worry about it and that's where i think a lot of people are saying, things have gotten out of control in terms of keeping the stats, keeping the numbers, and what's real out there on the street. >> this year the chicago police department touted what it called, quote, historic lows if crime and violence, the year saw the fewest murders since 1965, the lowest murder rate since 1966 and lowest overall crime rate since 1972. that is important context for what's happening, but after a weekend where 80 people were gunned down, many of them bystanders going about their normal lives, and some of them teenagers killed in exchanges

with police, people in chicago are rightly asking if this is the best the city can do and while local chicago politicians have been united in restricting access to guns, tough gun control laws there, illegal weapons still flow into the city and into the hands of many young gang members. mayor emanuel argues only national gun control can stem the gun running into the city. >> the hardest problem we have is the froe flow of guns into the city. i've called for national legislation. we are not on an island here. the other piece of this is, investing in neighborhoods and communities. >> no one expects national gun control to happen soon. but just like the bought of mass shootings that have terrorized so many in our nation, people are asking how many more have to die before politicians make this a true priority. we will discuss that reality and the ethics here and policy implications with reverend jesse jackson in one moment. first, i do want to get you the latest from the ground, gregory pratt covering this story for

"the chicago tribune," what can you tell us about how the city is dealing with the aftermath from the shootings? >> thank you for having me on. i was at the shootings on saturday at the shooting on 87th on the far south side of chicago where police shot a 16-year-old kid who was three days away from his 17th birthday and, you know, that wasn't a very good scene. the family was upset by the shooting and, you know, they wanted answers to -- about what happened. >> and did this feel for the city like it came out of nowhere? >> i think people expect that fourth of july is a very bad weekend for shootings, busy weekendings for shootings for law enforcement. i think the superintendent was out today and he said that -- he said that the shootings, you

know, there was an increase in shootings on sunday. i think that statistically wasn't so bad friday and saturday but sunday was a bad day. >> what is the reaction to the argument that mayor emanuel has made. on the one hand larger trends suggesting something they're doing is working, on the other hand, understandable pain and frustration with this kind of terrible weekend? >> well, i can only speak to what i saw on the scene. i think that there's -- there's frustration, obviously, on the ground level with law enforcement from families and from people in neighborhoods, you know, like the people i was talking to. i think that there's kind of -- people say crime is down and statistically it is, but i think there is a lot of people for whom that's not very comforting because there's still a tremendous amount of gun violence as we saw this weekend.

>> as you say from your time on the ground, what is your sense of the way the police are handling it? >> well, i think the police are trying to do their jobs. i think that, you know, on a ground level, you know, police officers are trying to do their jobs and trying to keep order. i know that the family in this case was upset that after this young man who had been, you know, police got called to this neighborhood because there was shootings, they found this young man, they chased him, they eventually found him after he had been hiding under a car, he had a gun, at least that's what police say, and they told him to drop it, he didn't, they shot him. i think that the family in this case was upset that they didn't know more about what had happened from police at the scene and, you know, they weren't allowed to identify the body in the alley and things like that. >> gregory, thank you for your reporting from the ground. appreciate that. i want to turn now to reverend

jesse jackson, president of the rainbow push coalition, a man working on these issues for a long time. your thoughts after looking at the events of this weekend? >> well, over 1,000 have been shot this year. about 200 have been killed. there's guns. we know 75% of them are tosold, gun purchases, drugs in, guns in, jobs out. lost 95,000 jobs to nafta. we need a massive infusion of jobs and job training. we've lost about 80,000 vacant homes and abandon lots. put these young people back to work. once out of town unemployment 40%, suburbs jobs, on three chicagos, 35% unemployment, 40% unemployment. we need to balance the equation. >> and reverend, as you saw here in reporting this tonight, one of the things we were looking at is the contrast with some of where washington's political

focus has been and this kind of pain and this kind of problem in our cities. why do you think this doesn't get more attention and response from the political class? >> wut xz there has blg awell t been no plan. we closed 50 schools, 72 grocery stores, 50 drug stores. it's a food desert, health desert, a school desert, unemployment crisis and therefore that needs to be some plan for reconstruction. when i look at all the abandoned homes and vacant lots, if those youths had the skilts to retrofit houses and build them and track jobs, we can get away without solving the iraq crisis without money and that's true in chicago as well. >> when you look at the police here, they're obviously up against a tough situation and we see in the crime statistics in chicago as well as many other

cities, when it gets hot out, when people are outside more, the overall number of basically interactions between people goes up and we see crime goes up and trying to deal with that. on the other hand they are facing some criticism here for shooting down young individuals, although some of them armed. your thoughts on the police here? >> well, this is a war zone. this is a zone of terror. it's an undeclared state of emergency that should be declared a state of emergency. police cannot police buildings that are vacant or abandoned. they can't police vacant lots. we know where the guns are made, the suburb, where they're sold at the gun shop, where the drugs are coming from. gun shops in chicago, don't manufacture drugs in chicago, there's a sense we are an island entrapped by drugs and guns coming in and jobs going out. i urge the president to see this as a national urban crisis. much has taken place where he was. he understands the community

well. we need help at every level. we cannot handle it locally apparently. >> you mentioned the gun shops, that is interesting, mayor emanuel and a united city council have restricted the ability of gun sales in most parts of chicago and yet the guns come in and we played that sound from the mayor. what do you think also, though, of the mayor's approach? he argues including from before this weekend he is winning this battle, he is bringing crime down in the city and doing it the right way. is he right? >> no. the chicagoland story is misleading. he's doing his best, i think he's working hard. we know that guns are manufactured in barrington and down state. benton where they are. we know where the guns are sold. 70% of the chicagoans, we know where drugs come in. what about the infusion -- try something different like jobs, and job training, and rebuilding schools and not tearing them down. let's try something different other than telling adults to behave and children to be quiet.

it just won't work. >> i hear you on that. reverend jesse jackson, thank you very much for your time this evening. appreciate it. >> thank you, sir. >> and coming up, the supreme court's decision on hobby lobby, opening new exceptions you might not have heard about for the top 1%. the rapid response panel to weigh in. first rick perry calls conspiracy ons immigration surge. trenders is next. don't miss it. ♪ start a team. join a team. walk to end alzheimer's. visit alz.org/walk today. [ cat meows ] ♪

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and you know what time it is now. it's time for the trenders. as always find the ed show on twitter and on facebook and me after tonight's show on facebook at facebook.com/arimelber. the social media nation has decided and we are reporting here our today's top trenders voted on by you.

>> number three trender. sparking interest. >> a new trend of flying drones into fireworks displays has led to some impressive video. >> and boom goes the dynamite. >> a daring drone flier captures the rocket's red glare up close. >> this video taken by an amateur drone user in west palm beach, florida. >> the colors. >> it appears this video has started somewhat of a trend, but it could also lead to some legal troubles. their device could be struck by a firework and reflect the explosions or the device at the heads of unsuspecting bystanders. >> the number two trender. puff puff past. >> washington will become the second green state in the country. >> washington state led about two dozen proprietors know they can get rolling on their marijuana businesses. >> talk it out, man. >> washington state preps for legal pot sales. >> liquor control war was overwhelmed with 7,000 pot

license applications. >> no way i was going to turn down an opportunity to be a pioneer in this industry. >> growers right now say the demand is so large, that they are running out of supplies. >> we ourselves only have ten pounds, which it will sell out the first day no doubt about that. >> heavy stuff, man. >> there will be no edibles for sale for now. >> who's on munchies tonight? >> and today's top trender, rick roll. >> this is a failure of diplomacy, it is a failure of leadership. you either have an incredibly inept administration or they're in on this somehow or another. >> rick perry can't slip his immigration inaccuracies by reporters. >> i don't think he cares if the border of the united states is secure. >> he's telling people not to come. do you believe there's some sort of conspiracy to get people into the united states? >> when you do not respond in any way, that you are either inept or you have some ulterior

motive. >> joining me now is sarah, field director for the texas fort bend democratic party. how are you? >> i'm doing well. how about yourself some. >> i'm good. we'll start with our rick perry conspiracy moment. i guess the weirdest part is that he's just owning it. he said this on fox news and then we just played there on abc, he just sort of reiterates, yeah, the president must be in on illegal immigration. doesn't explain why that would be a good thing for a president. what's going on in texas here? >> what's going on is that it's the same no nothing, racialized rhetoric they've been able to use for hundreds of years. he refuses to move away. it's really no nothing. that's how the tea party and texans are remembered. anti-immigrant and hateful and really insurrectionists. these people are supposed to be about patriotism, and he's sitting here accusing the president of conspiracy.

anything to detract attention from the way from the fact that not one member of our congressional republican delegation has called for a single vote on the so-called border crisis. lots of special hearings and field hearings and fund-raisers but not a vote they've been able to call. >> that's a good point. you can't really disprove a wild conspiracy like the president is in on this kind of immigration crisis, but he also made some other claims i want to play that didn't add up much. take a listen to him talking about where people are coming from. >> we have record high numbers of other mexicans being apprehended at the border, coming from states like syria, that have substantial connections back to terrorist regimes and terrorist operations. >> states like syria. that's not actually true. the statesman took a look at 2012, the recent numbers, 643,000 individuals stopped at the border. only 56 were from syria. which again, not that much of a

surprise. i actually tried to punch it out on a calculator but it was too many zeros, zero, zero, zero.zero percent from syria. why do you think he makes a claim like that when it's so easily disproven and hard to take him seriously? >> this is a great question, ari, and i'm answering it also as an arab-american. someone whose family emigrated from syria after the first world war that's because it's perfectly acceptable for republicans to hate latinos and arabs. that's why this has any traction. to be taking pot shots at refugee population who, like, you know, my ancestors did, are trying to escape really terrible, terrifying warfare and somehow impugn them all as terrorists there is no conspiracy theory needed for that. it's connect the dots of republican legislation and politics. they constantly fear monger about latinos and arab-americans and muslims in the same way. you know, charlie pierson of

"the boston globe" has a book of idiot america about following conspiracy theorys in this country. it's easy for people to get caught up in a scheme than it is to look at the reality of the situation and the reality of the situation is that republicans like rick perry welcome policies like nafta and kafta and failed war on drugs and that is why the majority of immigrants from central and latin american countries are coming to our borders because of their failed policies that contributed to poverty and economic violence. it has nothing to do with terrorists in iraq and syria. >> you basically think it's like a dog whistle or a way to say if you don't like mexicans that's one thing and bring in syria not on the facts but as a reference that might scare people in the states? >> absolutely. if you have to paint murrietta, which is for what it was last week, which is a bus that contained children, immigrant children, who were some of them alone, if you had to deal with that, with your electorate and say you're screaming at a bus of

children, versus screaming at a bus of jihadists what do you think works better on the low information racist tea party voters. they know what they're doing. >> let me mention that, you know, perry talked about this letter he sent in 2012 and no response whatsoever, part of the sound we played where he says they're either incompetent or in on it. i was reading the letter today, i like looking back over governor perry's correspondence and what he asked for in that letter, one, to patrol the border, and two, to meet with foreign governments, media consultation with the countries of origin. that is exactly inaction what this administration has done. not to say the border is 1 hupz% secure. there is a border challenge here. the notion there's been no response to the letter, no patrolling of the letter or diplomacy with some of these central american countries is laughable. >> yeah. absolutely. governor perry has what i've been describing as daddy issues

when it comes to president barack obama. he's like a sad, rebellious teenager, all emotion, rhetoric, and the fact is daddy has been busy and he has been dealing with these other countries and then rick perry wants to go up to daddy and say give me $500 million, i need half a billion dollars to fix the border. throwing more police at the violence of poverty and the narco violence that is across that border is not going to make things better. putting more police there will not stop people from feeling desperate enough to send their children up to meet these police. so i wish governor perry would take off his glasses, get back to reading some of his old correspondence like you did and stop blaming everything on daddy and look at the republican congressional delegation that respects our state of texas and refuses to do anything about this until it becomes a talking point or way to raise money. >> let's talk the politics for a second there, because obviously as everyone remembers, there were times where he has struck a much more conciliatory note on

these -- some of these immigration issues and education. and then on top of that not running for governor again, right. how much -- >> yeah. >> how much on the ground, you're on the other side as a local democrat, you've testified before legislature, you're very involved on the ground, how is this all playing out with people saying okay, do we just look at this through the prism of presidential politics here or a different interpretation would be he may not be running for anything again and this is just the real rick perry? >> i think he's definitely running for president again. that's why he's running around california. everything they lamb bast for raising money in california, greg abbott, rick perry, they're doing the same thing. i believe this is all in a run up to a presidential run. as governor of texas he has seen the demographic destiny of texas. he can't get the rest of his national republicans on board about that. i think he does as much damage control as possible to like you said appear conciliatory. but on the other hand you have a man who believes in total states

rights, doesn't recognize the president's authority in any other situation, constantly raises money and rhetoric over rejecting the president, questioning the president's legitimacy, so it's a really confusing argument for everyone on our side. you know, the president's not allowed to improve our health care system, but he has to be everything and all and nothing for the border. i think that, you know, everything is so polarized right now, that democrats are seeing it the way that we understand it which is that republicans still have no answer, don't have an answer for health care, for immigration, they don't have an answer for these issues. their base is still getting backed up further and further into the corner and are just being given the short-term dog whistles about protect the border, protect yourselves from terrorists but not thinking about the structural issues around this immigration problem. >> yeah. and if every argument they have is we don't trust obama on the border, that is a political argument with a firm expiration date. sooner or later they would have to explain what they do so

differently. thank you for joining us. still ahead, we have the supreme court's narrow quote/unquote ruling in burwell v hobby lobby that leaves the door open for many corporations to claim special rights. we will explain that and the rapid response panel will weigh in. thousands of detroit residents are left without running water, many are alleging the city's water department is actually targeting the poor here. detroit homeowner lee gaddies joins me with the latest. next, you know what time it is. i'm taking your questions. a segment called at least for today ask ari live. that's straight ahead.

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welcome back to "the ed show." we love hearing from our viewers. ask ari live. our question first is from john, why don't the oil, coal and gas companies invest in new energies? good question, fair question. i think one part of the answer is, we often imagine the markets

as a big level playing field and they're not. a bunch of these companies get huge investment benefits, they get tax cut benefits, they get benefits from incorporating abroad and we don't have enough, we have some, but not enough benefits and incentives for folks within the market to try other things. so you can do more solar, do more wind if you incentivize it and also think about all the ways that folks hide the money overseas which is another incentive to continue business as usual. all right. let's do our second question from tom. if republicans don't like lawyers, why is speaker boehner palling with one to sue president obama. i don't take offense as a lawyer to lawyer jokes or the antipathy towards lawyers and this is great question. a big thing that republicans including john boehner have talked a lot about is frivolous lawsuits and tort reform, buzzwords for the idea, which is sometimes true, that lot of stuff goes into court, wastes people's time and doesn't belong

in court in the first place. if that argument makes any sense, if there is any kind of lawsuit that we shouldn't waste our time and money on in court, it is most certainly the frivolous lawsuit against president obama for doing his job. i was also reminded when this whole thing -- this story broke, when they had enda come out and the question was should there be protection so people don't get fired because they're gay, john boehner said he didn't want to support that, because he thought it would create frivolous lawsuits. it is clearly a type of complaint we only hear at certain times. if you want a prediction here, i don't make a lot of predictions about the court, but i don't think speaker boehner's stunt political lawsuit will be successful. that's one prediction. stick around the rapid response panel is next. with your cnbc market wrap. the dow fell 44 points but remains above the 17,000 mark. the s&p 500 is off 7. the nasdaq composite shed 34. investors were reluctant to

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a bait and switch so blatant and fast justice society mayor broke with the court's to slam dishonesty quote -- sonia sotomayor was unusually blunt because the stakes are so high. hobby lobby did start out as a case about contraception. but the court's conservatives made it about corporations. and just as citizens united help rewrite the campaign playbook, businesses and conservative organizations are now lining up to use hobby lobby as a way to avoid following federal laws. the founders told us all men are created equal, but in this business friendly court you're better off being a corporation with corporate personhood and executives can avoid personal liability under corporate personhood for rifts they take in the market and with this new decision under the rights and hobby lobby, executives can

basically pick which laws they don't want to follow simply because their company doesn't believe in them. if that sounds messed up, that's because it is. it may be a sweet deal for the 2% of americans who run these kind of companies. but how long can the court put their priorities above everyone else? joining me now in our rapid response panel, attorney burt newborn who's argued a dozens cases before the supreme court and filed a brief against the expansion of corporate rights in the hobby lobby case and goldie taylor, msnbc contributor and columnist for the grio. good evening to you both. >> good evening. >> let me start with you, first on contraception, what we saw here, late last week encapsuled summary was something that looked broader than we were told it would be in that original opinion from justice alito. your thoughts on that and the politics of this expanding case? >> well, even before wheaten i believe this was much more broad

than alito wrote in his brief. i always believed you could not write a decision narrow enough it only would pertain to contraception, that once you gave a person the right to infer their values, religious or otherwise, on to a separate corporation there would be no end to that and we saw it within the coming days just after that, you know, that truth bore out. what happens i'm going to wonder, when someone who is a nonchristian, a muslim, for instance, decides that they want to impart their closely held religious values on a company that they own that is not, you know, widely held by shareholders. what will christians do then. by the way, i'm an evan ga lickcle, i believe we sometimes take this religious liberty a bit too far when we take it outside our household and impose our values on other people. that's where the court got this wrong. >> yeah. i mean you raise a great point and you mention the specific example of a different faith. this is not a hypothetical.

in france they've dealt with this where you have muslim adherns who say our belief system is all women we come into contact with should have to wear a veil. it's a sincerely held belief to use the language of the court. if you strike the balance saying other people in this case specifically other women's rights are going to have to be trampled in the work place that is the quote/unquote balance, it doesn't feel equal, like a balance not something i would recognize as religious pluralism in the united states. i want to bring burt in specifically to build on this point. justice ginsburg cautioned about this and wrote in her dissent the court's determination that the religious freedom restoration act extends to all these for profit corporations is bound to have untoward effects and referencing the idea of narrowness although the court attempts to cabinet its language to closely held corporations, its logic extends to corporations of any size public or private. >> what justice alito tried to

do was a voodo economics. don't worry there's no cost here. he called it zero costs. he said that the employees will continue to get exactly the same coverage and the insurance companies will eat the additional costs. they will be forced to bear the additional costs and it's good for them because it's cheaper to ensure contraception than it is to pay for the ensuing pregnancy. what he did with a magic wand is say don't worry about this case, it's really narrow because there are zero costs. now we're already beginning to see, that when you take the program to scale, when you move it from a few religious church organizations, and move it to all the small corporations in america you go from a couple thousand employees to a couple million. the insurance companies will simply not sit still for paying that cost. >> right. >> someone is going to have to pay the cost and guess who it's going to be. it's going to be you and me because they're going to demand they get a subsidy from the

united states for the additional costs and that subsidy will raise an establishment clause vie laugs because what it does. >> you mean religious freedom. >> i shouldn't talk jargon. it forces taxpayers to subsidize somebody else's religious belief. >> right. let me go -- >> not allowed to do that. >> let me go to goldie on that. what are the politics here when you have a conservative justice saying oh, this is fine, the government should just pay for more stuff? >> i'll tell you what's happened. the religious right has lost the political -- the cultural wars, the politics that they've lobbied over the last 20 years. they've lost that fight. and so now they're cashing themselves as libertarian, we don't want our rights infringed upon all the while they want to infringe on other people's rights. they want, you know, invasive what are they called -- >> vaginal ultrasounds, those

things to happen, between a woman and her doctor, so, you know, rather than cast themselves as the kind of people who want to get involved in people's lives they've respun the argument to say we're rand paul libertarians we don't want you involved in ours. they think they're going to win the argument on that measure but the real politics say that come 2014, later this year, come 2016 you're going to have an awful lot of women, married, single women, republican women, who are going to vote against those kinds of notions and it's going to cost them. >> it's funny you mentioned that because i think it goes to something that ed talks about a lot on the show which is when you talk about american business, there is room for business to do good things in our society, surely, but the average voter -- >> absolutely. >> whatever their politics relates to business more as an employee than as a business owner or ceo. the math bears that out. and so they've cast this ruling in a certain way and said if you're religious you'll have more rights at work. no, not if you're an employee. doesn't do anything for you.

if you run a company, one of the lucky 2%, fine. they'll have to deal with the politics of that as people go to work and figure out oh, this might take something from me and my health care plan or other parts of my work but not give anything to me. burt, i want to bring you in on this idea of what business does. you filed a brief in this hobby lobby case where you said we give certain benefits to corporations and we treat them as different than people and that's good for business, but we're going down a corporate problem if we say that they are not accountable and not liable for their executives. but now they get to have personal rights. explain that. >> i filed a brief that said, to the business community be careful what you wish for because the key to having corporations really function well in our economy is a wall between the shareholder and the corporation. >> right. >> that means that shareholders can invest and not have to worry if the corporation goes bust they'll come after the shareholders. >> the people. >> it's called limited

liability, hugely important. corporations can own other corporations. and create pyramids. that's where all the money overseas is. >> right. >> they have subsidiaries overseas and hide the money there. now if you can pierce the corporate veil by a shareholder saying hey, just treat me as the same as the corporation. >> right. >> why can't we pierce it in the other direction. why can't a creditor do it. why can't the irs do it and say, forget this wall, it's a phony wall. >> yeah. you put that so well, burt. either that wall doesn't mean anything, right, or it's one way only for corporate interests. that's a hard place for this court to be, only with the corporations and never with the employees long term. again it takes time but as people figure that out. burt and goldie, thank you for your expertise tonight. >> thank you. coming up, a lesson in patriotism from america's favorite gun toting draft dodger pretenders is next. stay with us. vo: this is the summer.

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and in pretenders tonight, republican rocker ted nugent decided july 4th was the right time for another partisan rant and wrote a commentary calling president obama a dictator really and addressing americans who don't share his views. he wrote, quote, to the sheep on the other side happy dependens day and good luck with that because after our fourth of july partying we are rolling up our sleeves an fighting like never before to take back this country from the blood suckers and scammers, hard work, pride, excellence, productivity and real patriotism once again rule the day. now look, folks, we might all be better off if no one paid any attention to nugent's political aopinion but he remains a prominent figure in conservative circles. the nra hosted his speeches, a member of congress brought him to the state of the union and he said he endorsed mitt romney but only after a long heart and soul conversation. well, a look at nugent's record makes you think he's not the

most credible manaessenger for t independence day spirit. >> obama want to -- suck on my machine gun, you punk. let's hear it for him. >> a chicago communist raised, subhuman mongrel. like the acorn community organizer gangster barack hussein obama. >> i will tell you if barack obama becomes president in november -- again -- i will either be dead or in jail by this time next year. >> i am an extremely loving, passionate man and people who investigate me honestly without the baggage of political correctness ascertain the conclusion that i'm a damn nice guy. if you can find a screening process more powerful than that i will [ bleep ] [ bleep ].

or [ bleep ]. how does that sound? >> we have no idea where that n unexpected outburst came from. the second part of it directed to a female cbs news producer. >> good times. for the nra and conservative republicans who won over ted nugent as an ally and a spokesman, you can keep him. com? yes. but you're progressive and they're them. -yes. -but they're here. -yes. -are you... -there? -yes. -no. -are you them? i'm me. but the lowest rate is from them. -yes. -so them's best rate is... here. so where are them? -aren't them here? -i already asked you that. -when? -feels like a while ago. want to take it from the top? rates for us and them. now that's progressive. call or click today.

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welcome back to "the ed show." for decades we have seen the

decline of a great american city in detroit. now the situation there has turned very dire. water is being shut off for thousands of detroit's poorest residents. since march the detroit water & sewage department shut off water to roughly 12,500 people. the department is in the process of issuing noticeses to 150,000 residents. let me say it again. 150,000 people in that city who are reportedly behind on payments. the situation is so bad the united nationss released a dedicated statement saying shutting off water, quote, constitutes a violation of the human right to water and other international human rights. this weekend our own ron mott visited with the people of detroit. it's clear from his reporting these residents are in a very tough spot. >> nothing. >> reporter: it's been months since water has come out of nicole hill's faucets in detroit. a dry spell caused by contested bills, she says, totaling $5700. >> buying, you know, david cop

ohherfield magically giving me $5,000, there is no way i can pay it. >> we would never ask for free water. we want to pay what we can afford. this is a human rights violation. what kind of government would allow his people two live without water? what kind of people are we? >> reporter: lou are wis patrick is spreading the word. >> i'm here to give you information about the water shut-offs. >> reporter: alleging gent riff indication is the under lying motive. >> one of the most egregious issues is to allow people to be denied water because someone else wants to benefit from that. >> as you saw there, some city activists and residents have argued the water department is explicit ly targeting the poor. they claim other customers have plenty of water flowing. wdiv reports ford field, home of the detroit lions owes over $55,000.

joe louis arena owes over $80,000. ford field is owned by the wayne county stadium authority and the joe is owned by the city of detroit. the stadium said they have the money to pay but don't agree on the amounts due. that makes them like a lot of other people whose water is off. there are no the reports now of shutting off water for either stadium. for more, let's go to detroit homeowner lee gaddis. good evening. >> thanks for having me on, ari. >> absolutely. we want add view from the ground. what's happening? >> as one of the largest homeowners associations in detroit, we are trying to encourage people to move into our homes and repop lei late the city of detroit. it's hard when you have a total disconnect between the reality of what's going on and wishful thinking on the part of the water department. when detroit was fat and happy, the water department was taken

over not by local government, but by a judge who oversaw the water department for 30-plus years. they decided to take the money and not invest in detroit's infrastructure but seek new customers in the suburbs making sure they had access to new customerses in the suburbs. meanwhile, the odetroit infrastructure suffered. now that detroit has lost its tax base, its residency and needs to repopulate they have crumbling infrastructure. water is leaking in a park. 400 acres is flooded, killing primordial forest in the park. for ten years, water has flowed in the park. they haven't shut it off. they want to shut off poor people's water. they need to work out a plan with the residents to keep people in their homes and let them pay a percentage of income.

a lot of people are on fixed incomes. >> mm-hmm. >> to stay in their homes and have access to water. if you take a young mother and put her kids in foster care and put her in jail, right? you have to pay $34,000 to wayne county to keep her in jail for a year. >> right. >> it's cheaper to keep her in her house and keep her water on than for me as a taxpayer to pay for the other social services that go on when you remove that person and break up that family and kick them out of their houses by denying access to water. >> what do you say to people who argues this is a product. if people can't afford it, they can't provide it. >> then you know what? treat us all equally. shut off the water at ford field, at comerica park, shut off the water at companies and bill them for all of the broken water mains they have and water running in their propertieses. why not go after thebacks that foreclosure on people and then sit on houses for three, four years allowing the water to

flood basement? why aren't they billing them for the water being flood into the houses when the copper and metal is stolen from the foreclosures? >> lee -- >> all we are asking for is fair treatment. >> yeah. >> we are not saying the people don't owe money. if ford field is contesting the amount, people should get that same respect. >> i know your working hard. thank you very much. that's "the ed show." i niemi for ed schultz. "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton starts now. good evening, rev. >> good evening, ari. thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead caught on camera. the disturb thing video of a california highway patrolman repeatedly hitting a woman in the head during an arrest. last tuesday evening the patrolman confronted a woman named marlene pennick who officers said had been walking into traffic on a los angeles