"the ed show" is up next. good evening, americans, welcome to "the ed show" all the way live from new york, i'm michael eric dyson in for ed shultz. let's get to work. >> i don't believe he particularly cares whether or not the borders of the united states is secured. he doesn't go to the border, it's a real reflection of his lack of concern. >> secure this border, mr. president. >> what has to be addressed is the security of the border. >> come on, live free or die? i mean, you know, you got to love that, right? >> you know that, i know that and president of the united states knows that. >> what's the third one there? >> i will tell you there either are inept or don't care. and that is my position. >> let's see, i can't -- >> secure this border, mr. president. >> you are either inept or you

have some alterior motive. i'm rick perry and approve this message. >> america is a great place for second chances. >> the days of compassionate conservatism are over, president george w. bush pledged during his 2005 state of the union address that the united states and his new administration would be focused on compassionate conservatism. now republicans are doing all they can to prove they are hardened and have no compassion. exhibit a, the former half term governor of alaska, sarah palin is out today calling for the president's impeachment. in a column she penned she compared president obama's handling of america to an abusive spouse. enough is enough of the years of abuse from this president. he's unsecured border crisis is the last straw that makes the battered wife say no mas, reasons are using the growing crisis along the u.s./mexico

border for political gain. president obama is asking congress for 3 pts $7 billion to help confront the influx of minors across the u.s. from central america. obama administration officials say as of june 15th, 52,000 unaccompanied children from central america have been apprehended at the u.s./mexico border and taken 39,000 adults with children into custody as of may 31st. last week the president vowed to use his executive power to perform and reform the nation's broken immigration system. because republicans have refused to help. >> if house republicans are really concerned about me, taking too many executive actions, the best solution to that is passing bills. >> passing bills, my friends, keep in minds president obama is only following the law in his efforts to help these undocumented children. the compassionate conservative himself, president george w. bush, signed legislation in

2008, which passed both chambers of congress by unanimous consent. the law dictates exactly how children caught crossing the border without their parents must be treated. for children coming from mexico or canada, a border patrol officer has the authority to determine whether the child is eligible to stay in the country. the children from all other countries, the child must be turned over within 72 hours to the department of health and human services to care for them and find them safe housing until arrangements can be made. instead of that happening, republicans are calling for all of these kids to be immediately deported. >> the thing this administration needs to do is immediately deport these families, these children. i know it sounds harsh and sounds difficult, but they are creating a crisis at this time that is actually going to harm these children. >> we have to send them back because if you don't, you're going to incentivize people throughout that part of the world to keep sending their children here. about a third of the little

girls are raped in the process of getting here. it's a humanitarian problem but apart from immigration reform. this is a specific problem created by an impression if you get to america, you can stay. >> sounds hard, sound difficult? it is, my friends. rick perry initially declined a white house offer to geet president obama when he lands tomorrow. earlier this afterit was announced perry and the president will attend the meeting together. back in 2011, governor perry himself expressed sympathy towards children who end up in this country illegally. he made this statement during a debate when he was asked about tuition breaks for children of undocumented immigrants. >> if you say that we should not educate children who have come into our state for no other reason than they've been brought there, by no fault of their own, i don't think you have a heart. >> where is that guy? where is your heart now? governor perry apologized for

his word choice one week later. >> i probably chose a poor word to explain that. for people who don't want their state to be giving tuition to illegal aliens, illegal immigrants in this country, that's their call and i respect that. i was -- i was probably a bit overpassionate by using that word. it was inappropriate. >> oh, compass at obstructionism is what that is. republicans like to claim they stand on the high moral ground, the party that claims to believe in family values and christian charity. and we heard about religious freedom and how it relates to laws in the past few weeks. president obama is planning to discuss the crisis on the u.s./mexico border with faith and political leaders in texas tomorrow. maybe it's time for people of faith to come forward to show

conservatives what true compassion means. if you say you believe in jesus and believe in the bible and religious virtues, don't just talk about it, be about it. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question, is compassionate conservatism dead? text a for yes or b for no. i'll bring you the results later in the show. i'm joined now by the reverend dr. freddie haines for the friends ship west baptist church and e.j. die yon. zblo do they take rick perry seriously? >> i hope not. the rick perry who spoke out of his heart about having a heart evidently had a heart attack. unfortunately we live in a time where he's being pushed

politically to respond to a humanitarian crisis in a way that immoral. with texas being a state of big churches and big faith, i hope we still have a big heart for a big heart reflects the heart of the christ that many of our conservatives claim to worship. that same christ said how you treat little children is a reflection of how you are treating me. as a matter of fact, he also went on to say that we have to be careful how we entertain strangers and street foreigners and then don't forget about children. it's better to have a meal stone tied around your neck then to offend the least of these. i'm with rick perry from a few years ago, let's have a heart. and because these are children who are in need of compassion. and unfortunately, compassionate conservatism, i don't know if that exists anymore. >> it may be burt back rat was

right, anybody with a heart would be open here. e.j. dionne, he is trying to play to the audience, has it come down to that? >> i think so. i think it's tragic what happened inside the republican party. if i could quote a president, a president said by tradition and conviction, our country is a welcoming society and also said our country has always benefited from the dreams that others brought here. that was president george w. bush. and i disagreed as you did with president bush on a whole lot of things but the way he talked about immigrants and immigration and latinos, was very different than you're hearing now. the way rick perry has talked about immigration and latinos in the past is very different than you're hearing now. we really do need some of that compassion back. yes, this is a real crisis. and it's true that you cannot have people smuggling lots and

lots of children to the border. it's a crisis that we have to deal with. but there's so much anger and not a lot of concern for kids in the way we're talking about this. it's a very depressing moment, i think for the country. >> dr. haines, it light of professor dionne's argument that we have not dealt with the compassion for these children, what's been the reaction to people on the ground in texas to these children? you visited that arena, that area. tell us what you saw there. what's the on the ground response? >> i was privileged to go down to mcallen last week, last wednesday i believe it was, with county judge clay jenkins as well as state senator royce west and we were privileged not only to go into the holding area where these children are who have been traumatized by the journey and yet holding on to hope that in the land of the free and home of the brave, they'll be the beneficiaries of that kind of compassion and so to witness their strength in

light of all they've had to endure and overcome was heart warming but at the same time, it was heartbreaking. i saw border patrol agents literally walking around in their arms with a baby with nothing on but a diaper. that was both heartbreaking but it was also so encouraging to see the heart of border patrol agents. i also was privileged to take a helicopter ride to view the rio grande river and to see the part -- the points of entry where persons are entering their borders with the hands up, not trying to penetrate our borders in a vicious or criminal fashion but coming here filled with hope that somehow there will be a haven. after all, this country has a track record of treating children appropriately. when you look at the vietnam war, what was it, operation baby lift, where we helped children to get out of a desperate, even deadly situation.

world war ii, operation pied piper. children in danger were able to receive a haven, here in this country and other places. so this country has that kind of heart in its history and the beautiful thing is i've seen people on the ground in texas who have volunteering -- i had someone call the church today. i have 12 rooms available, there is a heart here in texas but you have a political push that rick perry is such coming to. >> e.j. dionne, if president obama visits the border in texas tomorrow, would that mean anything? would that accomplish anything? is it more than symbolic? >> not as far as i can tell. most of those kinds of visits are done largely for political reasons for the purpose of getting photo ops. i i don't think the president wants to heighten the anger and the demonstrations because you know that a lot of people trying to block those buses carrying these kids are also people who

don't like the president. i think meeting with officials down there, including governor perry, even if he's not going to shake the president's hand is probably more useful than a photo op at the border. he's asked congress for big appropriation over $3 billion to try to begin to grapple with this problem. >> sure. dr. haines, the broken immigration system is a national problem but your state is feeling immediate impacts of humanitarian issue. briefly tell us how local faith leaders are feeling about that? >> local faith leaders are ready to respond. catholic charities as always they are stepping up. there are men from southern baptist convention stepping up. faith leaders in this state recognize the responsibility we have to foreigners. we don't label them aliens, let alone illegal. we see them as children in need of compassion, support, hope and haven. and that's what we offer by way of our faith. >> all right, e.j. dionne, keep

bringing up that the president is not responding to a letter he wrote in may of 2012 when he asked the administration to stop the flow of immigrants crossing the border. why does he expect a response when these are the things the administration has been doing all along? >> it's really, really striking shift because president obama has basically stopped more people deported more people, he's come under a lot of criticism from latino community for how aggressively he has deported people. and what we have here is a completely different crisis that hit us all of a sudden. it reminds us that we should have been debating and passing a more comprehensive approach to immigration so we could deal with a problem whole. instead of doing what we're doing now, which is responding to a particular crisis with no broad long-term solution to the larger problem. >> all right, professor e.j.

dionne and reverend freddie haines iii, thank you. >> remember to answer the question at the bottom of the screen and on facebook, we really want to know what you think. coming up the death toll from chicago violent fourth of july weekend climbs to 16. the rapid response panel joins me to discuss how the windy city can move forward in the wake of these tragedies. first, dark money casts its shadow over the sunshine state. trenders is next. this is the first power plant in the country to combine solar and natural gas at the same location. during the day, we generate as much electricity as we can using solar. at night and when it's cloudy, we use more natural gas. this ensures we can produce clean electricity whenever our customers need it. ♪ of "smart choice" andat the "multiple choice,"

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obviously a lot of people are in staunch opposition. >> numbers are clear on this. the 13 states that have raised minimum wage have also increased jobs, michael. that's the important point. that's what charlie is talking about. charlie crist is talking about if you give people more money, at the bottom of the economy scale, then what happens is that money, it rises up, businesses do better and they employ more people. it's common sense. but more importantly it's been proven and numbers are clear. there's big, big money behind rick scott. rick scott has this colonial extraction kind of mentality about the way the economy should work. that big money is putting rick scott out front on this issue. you have chamber of commerce saying we can't raise wages but charlie crist is devoted to the notion, give the worker more money and they'll buy clothing and televisions and cars and entire economy will do better from the bottom up. >> why can't we seem to get that message? people think the thought of

raising the wages of people who work there makes rick scott cringe, but in light of what you just indicated there, didn't ee the economic feasibility of a minimum wage that will pump more money into the economy? >> the business -- the businesses are thinking we don't want to pay more wages right now. they don't look down the road and understand. we now know, we don't have to guess about this, michael. we now know from 13 states, the history of 13 states, we know there is a difference. but it's immediate gratification. it's immediate gratification and there's a lot of dark money unfortunately moving into flori florida right now to promote -- that raising the minimum wage is bad. that's what charlie crist is up against. it's this mentality about we've got to keep everybody down at the bottom and keep everybody flourishing at the top. unfortunately that's what's happening in florida with so many other places in this country. >> no doubt. this is the first ad from the

crist campaign, we've seen plenty of ads from rick scott's well funded campaign. has money helped scott so far in this race? >> rick scott has limitless money. he has 72 million -- you know, this is a guy $72 million is what he put into the last campaign. almost as many times as he had to plea the fifth, not to tell the truth in a deposition about fraud. 72 times had to do that and $78 million in his own campaign. money is coming in from businesses everywhere to support rick scott and it's all dark money. we don't even know -- we don't even know the origination of most of this money but it's big money coming behind rick scott right now. >> let's pick up on that. what is the influx of big money done to politics. you call it dark money and we can't trace it. what's the impact? what's the net effect of that? >> they wrote great articles about dark money in politics, it was before citizens united

statesed and before mckochen. if you want to colonize this country and allow multinational corporations to colonize this country, give them limitless access to spending their money. what he meant by that, if a corporation wanted to come into this country and they wanted to extract labor for nothing and create a saipan, they had to just spread money around. same way with our environment. if they wanted to take our natural resources with fracking and drilling and mining, multinational corporation is really the entity trying to colonize so many parts of this country. we used to think of colonization, one country going to another and extracting all goods. right now chal mers johnson, telling us a long time ago, when money comes in here, when dark money comes in, what's going to happen is we're going to be treated almost like a third world. these corporations are going to

come in and create third world quality on the labor market, for example, where they use their big money to bust up unions. they are going to use that money to take our natural resources by fracking and drilling and way they are going to do that, they are going to spread money around to regular laters and spread it around to politicians. these great minds we're talking about this 20 years ago, michael. it's unfolding right here and now. we're seeing colonization right here in our country, not by another country but multinational corporations coming here doing this to us. that's part of what we're seeing in florida right now. >> massive power, unrestrained capital and increase of unregulated finances that are flooding the marketplace of politics make it a dirty business. thanks so much for joining us. >> still ahead, rahm emanuel was quick to assign blame for chicago's violence. the rapid response panel weighs in. a proposed pipeline in the region could have kas strofic

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they have no sensitivity for the very people who are the citizens who deserve and demand it at least a sitdown. be heard. what's wrong in talking to them? even if he disagrees with them, the ability to engage one another in civil discourse and conversation is the predicate and indeed the lifeblood of american democracy. our next question is from belinda. how was the jay-z and beyonce concert last night? allow me to reintroduce myself, my name is med, m to the ed, don't be mad because i got kiss from onsai. going up the stairs, that was me in the yellow hat. here we have it again. that's jay-z giving me a pound, what's going on, great show and beyonce leans over and kisses me here on the right side of the cheek. i'm not sure you saw that.

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it turns out police may have been cooking the books. after all rahm is up for re-election next year, a detailed in depth expoes from chicago suggests it was manipulated by police. reporters found numerous examples where the pd reclassified crimes to make them look better. if it was a murder, maybe it was just a manslaughter and therefore the murder rate slipped. even with the allegedly cooked books, rahm is quick to blame chicago violence on others. >> the hardest problem is the flee froe flow of guns and the other piece of this is, investing in neighborhoods and communities. >> chicago is an island, urban island surrounded by rural areas where it's easy to get guns. rahm's even police superintendent admitted guns in chicago come from in state. >> you can walk into any gun shop in illinois buy ten .9

millimeters and only one recorded transaction on the five arms and we don't know where they go. >> i'm not hating, rahm, local gun laws could help the situation but the other half is investing in chicago's south side. many residents feel they've been abandoned. >> there are consequences, believe, to failed economic and political policies that most communities of color in chicago are facing. high unemployment, 23% or more. failing schools, we have the closing of mental facilities the foreclosure crisis, certain communities seem to be targeted. >> why can't we give the intrick cat relationship between all of these as opposed to pathologyizing those urban or trying to take to task those people who are the object and the victims of forces as opposed to trying to deal with a broader

perspective that allows us to see the relationship between the suffering of those individuals and institution of mechanisms that perpetuate it. emanuel closed 50 public schools affecting poor african-american neighborhoods and may cost him his job. recent polling shows 29% support for re-election. only 8% of african-americans want to keep him as mayor. there's not one solution for chicago's gun violence but there's no way you can fix the problem by abandoning chicago's poorest neighborhoods. jining me now is our rapid response panel, assistant professor of english and after cana studies at the university of pennsylvania and senior pastor of the trinity church of christ. isn't gun legislation just a small piece of this more intriguing intrick cat problem? >> absolutely. the gun legislation is a very small sliver of what's happening. we need more investment in

chicago and education and not incarceration. chicago in the south and west side looks completely different than the norm side. i believe there's really a strategy, a plan that can be implemented. one economic investment, the way we give breaks to corporations, we should give breaks to entrepreneurs who live in those neighborhoods who are distressed. how about is this in how about teachers who teach in the poorest schools should receive the highest pay and most resources. then closing the loopholes and then why don't we then move to a freedom summer. taking historically black colleges and having those students come to chicago, east st. louis, detroit and other places and allow corporations that want to invest in major cities invest in our young people and let's bring them back into the city and have an urban youth corps that will transform. a hip-hop progressive movement. it talks about poverty and racism and sexism why not treat and teach young people within chicago and other places the

power of this creative music that komsz out of the african tradition, just as they did in cuba and arab spring. we could create something powerful, but make it nationwide. >> that's an intriguing point. you write about that among many subjects and the relationship between pop culture. you've been deeply invested in chicago in particular it dealing with narratives of violence, especially violence, domestic violence against women, boys and girls and you've talked about trying to retrain the psyche so people can be open to new way and approaches. talk to us and rahm emanuel closed 50 schools. what did he think would happen as a result of that? >> i'm going to chicago next week to work with young people at the organization to ends violence in their communities and cities. it's a really important initiative and to me deeply personal. i think you picked up on this point the way in which rahm

emanuel is framing the issue. i applaud the fact he's not making it a black pathology issue, single parent households or lack of mentoring, that's the typical response that you have from people who deal with issues of gun violence. i do think by talking about it only as too many guns and not too many school closings, too many schools to prison pipelines too many unemployed young people in chicago, not dealing with the ways in which he as mayor can locally grapple with the issue and maybe preventvy lens within his initiatives and his policies. so i just think that one of the things that i think he can do is not only invest in communities in the south side and west side but invest in community development projects that are effective, project build, different organizations using community based models to make a difference with parents and children experiencing these violence every day. >> right.

that's a good point. this type of violence happens all the time in chicago. you're a minister on the south side. what do you see on the ground? what's your assessment of what can be done given what the doctor talked about in terms of reinvestment strategy and broad analysis and suffering there, what can be done on a practical level? >> well, first i think we need to understand that the problems in chicago, it's not anything new. as you've already stated before. one of the ways that chicago deals with these issues is through incarceration and criminalization. we saw he is specifically during the 90s, the gang leadership and created microgangs, cliques, they are cliquing up. as a result of that we have no leadership in these communities. but what we have not done is already been mentioned is that the kind of economic investment is not happening in chicago. there are wonderful on the

ground groups doing great work. you have cease fire doing great work. you have the fierce women of faith doing great work. at trinity we're doing tremendous work, from restorative justice to peace circles and making sure that we are hiring young people in the community, roughly about 80 this summer. it's not enough. we need an entire coalition and there has to be leadership from the civic level and political level and state level and national level to recognize that our children are just as valuable as children on the north side. our children are just as valuable as children as sandy hook. our children are just as valuable as those in israel that we need to recognize that our children are the greatest gift that we have been given by god. there has to be reinvestment in our communities and it does not happen alone. >> well, that's a great point. i want to ask both of you. so, why does it take 16 people

dead first of all to kind of capture our attention? and to pigy back on what dr. moss is saying, not only rahm emanuel but president of the united states of america, president obama is from chicago and takes great pains to talk about his commitment to certain areas and the kind of legacy in chicago. is he also to be held responsible as some people have suggested. do you think that's unfair? >> yes, these are citizens of the united states. these are people who have voted him into power. earlier in your show you were talking about the humanitarian crisis. this should be framed as a humanitarian crisis alongside other issues in which young people are being deported or killed. we're talking about our children and america's children. i think yes, the president of united states should be held accountable. not just for gun control policies which he's tried to make great strides in but also for investing in communities. the big issue that we're not talking about here is that these neighborhoods are racially segregated and did talk about

experiencing severe levels of poverty. that's the big story. we can talk about gun control, which we need to but we have to address the long issue of racial segregation that these families are experiencing, not by any fault of their own by chance, and by fate, the way in which american democracy hasn't really reached their doorstep. that is a presidential issue. a national crisis and humanitarian crisis and definitely the president of the united states should be taking this issue on as part of the legacy and current initiative. >> bully pulpit and policy? what do you think it's fair or not to hold him accountable because he's from chicago and closely identified with that? >> well, i think it's fair to hold us all accountable, not only the president and mayor but all of us. >> in this case the president is -- i'm saying the president being from chicago, i know everybody is responsible and i want to drill down to that to talk about people who have made

the argument. i'm saying, are we saying it's a fair argument or saying it's part of his bully pulpit and public policy as the doctor has talked about. >> i think it's certainly part of the bully pulpit to raise that consciousness. i think on the local level, all politics are local. that we need to also recognize that chicago is structured in a very different way than in 1895 to 1930, with the chicago political machine was structured. was created in a response to a great migrags to ensure a certain community does not have as much power. as a result of that, we now see what we are having today, that type of political structure. we don't want to deal with that. we're talking about power and race and racism and segregation and talking about poverty. and we need to hold those who have been elected officials accountable but need to hold the community accountable to make sure we have the kind of

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welcome back to "the ed show." a newly proposed oil pipeline is threatening the way of life for thousands. the massive 616 mile project would be the most expensive private construction project the state has seen. double the cost of the new viking stadium in minneapolis. sandpiper would pump crude oil through critical minnesota wetlands. the proposed pipeline cross it is red river which flows at the border of north dakota and minnesota. the sensitive waterway has had 300-year floods in the last decade causing billions in damage. it puts the mississippi river in danger. minnesota is home to the head waters of the mississippi river. enbridge wants to plug 225,000 barrels a day across the

beginning of the mississippi over to superior, wisconsin. the effects of a spill would be devastating, leaving thousands of miles of wild life habitats in havoc and polluting the drinking water so many in the region rely on. joining me now, richard smith, president of friends of the head waters. what effect would building a pipeline have on the drinking water? let's take it from there. the drinking water in the region. >> thanks for having me on. you see the scene behind me. in downtown minneapolis, if this pipeline ruptured where it crosseses the mississippi upstream would affect drinking water for millions in town. my little town where i live, that aquifer they get their drinking water from is completely dependent upon that aquifer. if there was a rupture there, i could be from park rapids where you can't are drink the water.

imagine your kids going to school and not able to drink water out of the fountains. >> that's distressing. if the mississippi river is hit by an oil leak tell us the effect it would have on wildlife in surrounding communities. beyond the drink waters to the wild life in the community that is surround it. >> it's not just the mississippi river. this route goes through some of the most critical wild rice grounds in the state. minnesota is famous for wild rice. the wild rice is important to the ojibway community in the state. not only does it feed people, but it also feed as lot of wildlife and water fowl. these guys at enbridge couldn't have picked a worse place to put the pipeline through the state. it affects wild rice, the mississippi river. it affects thousands of feet of oh lakeshore properties in my county and along the whole

route. it's not a good plan. >> your organization proposed an alternate route. what are the benefits of the substitute passage ways you put forth? >> one, our route takes the pipeline away from any of minnesota's lake country. one of their executives said they prefer a pipe in agriculture land. we came up with a route that takes it through. it's easy access to build. farmers can put it back into production. that was our plan to keep it out of the source waters and put it in the lowest risk part of the state. we still get to keep the pipeline johns. the state keeps its tax revenue

that comes from the pipeline. >> enbridge says 97% of land owners welcomed surveyors for the pipeline. what do you say to those residents? >> i would say resist. this permit has not yet been approved by the state. the company gets to do the easements first. then they come to the state to ask for permission to build a pipe. and the route. the process is backwards. it should be need, route, then contacting land owners. >> thank you for your contribution tonight. >> thank you. >> that's "the ed show." "politics nation" with the reverend al sharpton starts now. good evening, rev. >> good evening, dr. die syson.

thanks for tuning in. i'm live tonight in washington, d.c. tonight washington crossing the line on immigration. president obama took steps to address the crisis on the border. he asked for nearly $4 billion in emergency funding to secure the border and help take care of the tens of thousands of immigrant children who crossed into the united states, but while the president is working to solve a crisis, republicans are talking impeachment. today sarah palin compared the united states to a battered wife. she writes, quote, enough is enough of the years of abuse from this president. his unsecured border crisis is the last straw that makes the