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thanks for tuning in. i'm live tonight in washington, d.c. tonight washington crossing the line on immigration. president obama took steps to address the crisis on the border. he asked for nearly $4 billion in emergency funding to secure the border and help take care of the tens of thousands of immigrant children who crossed into the united states, but while the president is working to solve a crisis, republicans are talking impeachment. today sarah palin compared the united states to a battered wife. she writes, quote, enough is enough of the years of abuse from this president. his unsecured border crisis is the last straw that makes the battered wife say, "no mas,".
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she accuses the president of making up his own laws as he goes along. the many impeach able offenses of barack obama can no longer be ignored if after all this he's not impeachable then no one is. this attack is way over the line. it echoeded what we hear. >> the frustration throughout the united states is because they feel the administration is doing nothing about the security. >> there is a lack of leadership in getting ahead of the issue. >> it is a humanitarian crisis. perfectly preventable. >> what's happening on the border with kids is heartbreaking. it is the direct consequence of president obama's lawlessness. >> all the republicans are so busy blaming president obama
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they forgot the history. the law controlling how the immigrant kids are handled was, in fact signed by a different president. president bush signed the law in 2008 to protect immigrant kids against child trafficking. the bush administration said this is a piece of legislation we are proud to sign. republicans were proud. now it is the basis for impreachment. some in the gop are more concerned about political games than solving problems in the country. joining me now, ed rendell and angela rye. thanks for being here. governor, let me go to you first. what's your reaction to sarah palin calling for the president's impeachment over this humanitarian crisis? >> i am both furious and happy.
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i'm furious that sarah palin, the republican party and people in congress are talking impeach lt. the constitution says you can impeach for high crimes and misdemeanors. there is nothing president obama has done that's remotely close to a high crime or a misdemeanor. they can disagree with policy. one thing cited was the epa controlling emissionses from coal plants. you can disagree. you can say it's a wrong policy. it is not impeachable. it's why we have elections. i'm furious that political party and people who held public office could stoop so low as to do nothing but rile up the base. they knows there is no chance of success. i thought at the beginning of the year it would be a tough year for democrats. by asking so bizarrely, the
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republicans are trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. that's what's going to happen. when they impeached president clinton they got killed in the 1998 midterm election. the american people were fed up. reasonable people will say the republicans are nuts and we can't vote them back into office. >> i think you raised a good point about they are actually not going by what the articles suggest for impeachment. talk about lawlessness. they have reinterpreted what impeachment is for. sarah palin suggests opening our borders to a flood of illegal
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immigrants is deliberate. she's really saying that this was done intentionally suggesting the president, she criticizes, quote, obama's purposeful dereliction of duty. rick per ary had a similar stance this weekend. listen. >> i don't believe he cares whether or not the border of the united states is secure. i believe when you do not respond in any way you are inept or have an ulterior motive which you are functioning from. >> following up with governor rendell, do you believe they think the american people will buy there is a liberal conspiracy to bring in children and that the president is deliberately doing this? >> i think it is a way for them
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to gin up their base. we have seen conspiracy theories or benghazi or the irs or whatever else. now it's just an open border issue. so the one thing i would say that's interesting is on one hand the president has been called a deporter in chief by the latino community en masse which is unfortunate. on the other hand, they are saying he's responsible for porous borders. we know he's enforced the president and president george bush's deportation and enforcement laws. >> and asked for $4 billion to try to deal with this. by one count, the gop who has come up with 13 reasons the president should be impeached. look at them. from claiming he wasn't born here to not extending the bush tax cuts and now the child immigration crisis. they are making a mockery out of
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the idea of impeachment. >> there is no question about it. they are all things they disagree with the policy that the president is undertaking. they neglect the facts that he, in fact, had deported more people than any president in the united states history. the fact that we have more border guards now than ever. we are at the highest number of border guards ever. they just ignore the facts and come up with legal theories not close to the mandate. it may gin up the base. you're absolutely right. but independents will still control this. reasonable republicans. you go to the philadelphia suburbs. if i'm michael fitzpatrick, running in bucks county, i'm petrified hearing this talk. moderate republicans and independents will say, maybe i like my congressman. i can't keep this party in
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power. they are just crazy, irresponsible. they are wrong-headed in their approach to everything. by the way, this is a congress that's talking about all this stuff and hasn't done a jobs bill, infrastructure, tax reforl and hasn't done immigration reform. if they care so much about it, sit down and do an immigration reform bill before the end of august. >> i'll tell you what they have done. republican house judiciary committee chairman responded to the president's response to stop the immigration crisis. they wanted to impeach him on it or some do. the judiciary chairman said, quote, no amount of resours or changes will be effective in steling the surge of illegal border crossings if president obama continues to ignore the law. no matter what the president does it won't be enough for republicans. is it because he's supposedly lawless? he's asking to enforce the law.
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george bush made law. >> which they just requested he do last week. he doesn't doing enough last week. this week he complied with their result, so to speak. today it's a problem. i don't think this is about whether or not the person requesting the policy looks and acts like them. that's the biggest issue there. we saw it with health care reform. we are seeing it again now. the house democrats issued a memo today saying you have 16 legislative days left. are we going to do anything to act on all the outstanding issues from raising the wage to immigration reform, et cetera. what are you going to do to move on this? >> the thing that's really so upsetting to me is we are in a humanitarian crisis. we are talking about children here. how do we look to the world? we can't even get unemployment insurance extended by this congress. governor ed rendell and angela rye, thank you for your time.
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tonight there is growing outrage over the video of a california highway patrolman beating a woman on a los angeles freeway. >> oh, [ bleep ]. he's beating her up. >> oh, my gosh. why? >> tonight, our exclusive interview with her daughter, the daughter of the woman getting punched in that video. we'll talk with her daughter and her attorney next. try alka seltzer reliefchews. they work just as fast and taste better than tums smoothies assorted fruit. mmm. amazing. yeah, i get that a lot. alka seltzer heartburn reliefchews. enjoy the relief.
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growing outrage over the video of a california highway patrolman beating a woman on a los angeles freeway. tonight we are speaking to the daughter of 51-year-old marlene pennic, the woman being punched in the disturbing video. a week ago today, she was walking along the freeway and wandered into traffic when a patrolman confronted her. after a brief struggle, the passing driver recordeded this cell phone video and the patrolman hitting her in the head face and head, over and over and over again. the highway patrol said it's are investigating. it put out a statement. quote, we understand everyone's concerns regarding the youtube video of a chp officer.
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we ask for your patience as we complete the detailed investigation process. local activists want answers now. some call for a federal investigation and met this afternoon with officials from the highway patrol. they shareded concerns with the deputy commissioner. >> this just happened. >> yes, ma'am. >> the questions you are asking are the questions i want answers to. >> the nbc 4 i-team confirmed the officer involved in the beating wasn't placed on administrative leave but was assigned office work. much to the frustration of activists his identity has not been revealed. >> we want him to have anonymity while we conduct the investigation. >> they are protecting the officer's identity. he's still at work. there's also a disagreement over whether ms. pennic was hurt.
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>> the individual was not injured. the officer didn't notice any individuals on the individual. >> the chp's representation that there were no injuries is absolutely false. she has suffered multiple injuries. >> is an incident like this likely to produce injuries? watch the tape and you decide for yourself. for now, her daughter said she 's just grateful her mom is alive. >> today was the first day a that i was finally able to see and talk to her. i just thank god that she's alive. >> to hear her other aver and o hit. she wasn't even putting up a fight. i want justice for my mom. >> the pressure is on to make sure she gets it. >> joins me now is her daughter myesha and kerry harper, the family's attorney. thank you for being here.
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>> thanks for joining us. >> first of all, how is your mother doing now? >> she's okay. she's better. she's not being beaten on the side of the freeway. she's a lot better. like i said once before, i'm happy she's alive. >> i would just -- >> what was your reaction? >> i'm sorry. >> i'm sorry. go ahead. >> i would just say, reverend al, as opposed to "she's okay," that's to say she's not currently being plummeted on the head. she's not okay. she suffered head injuries. she suffered bruises about her neck, head, shoulders, arms. she's suffered multiple bruises. one bruise is so large on her shoulder it's the size of a small plum. she's most certainly not okay. anything is better than someone who is sworn to protect and serve bashing her head into
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cement as though he's trying out for some sort of mixed martial arts competition. that's the only place i have seen such savage, repeated plummeting. usually in that sport you have a referee that says, hey, let her tap out. this officer wouldn't have let her tap out. but for the acts of another person coming along, how long would he have beat her? i say he would have continued beating her. >> let me ask this. i want to come back. what was your reaction when you first saw this video? >> i was in disbelief. i couldn't believe a chp officer was beating my mom like that. i don't feel he had the right to beat her. she couldn't do anything to him. he was just are pounding on her. he's two or three times her size. . . >> you said you weren't able to see her for a few days. what happened? >> i couldn't find her.
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>> i would just say, too, it personally took me 20 hours to find her, reverend al. the chp concealed her location. >> when you say concealed her location, for viewers, they apprehended her? >> they apprehended her. they arrested her. an arrest is -- you know, they took her into custody. we have witness information that they handcuffed her. at one point they had her on the side of the curb. they put her in a hospital. and i did make contact on july 3 with someone from the c.h.p. and i attempted to ascertain if this person was even getting proper medical treatment. i wrote and called and did everything i could. i was disturbed by the video. i was going to fly out for a family reunion. however, this incident was so
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troubling that i investigated where this woman was. they had her in custody under a numeric value, not a that i mean. then they changed it to a jane doe name. then they gave her an alias. then they transferred her to an entirely separate facility. why would they do that? they did it because they beat her up and they wanted to hide her so that her injuries could somewhat subside and not have someone taking photos. my client had been looking to hospitals, trying to find her mom, under her mother's proper name. they made that virtually impossible. even if you go to the facility and say what's her name, you cannot locate her. they will deny she's here. they hid her because they knew they did wrong. for the officer, mr. o'quinn, to represent, we didn't see
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injuries, you need better glasses. the rest of the world saw injuries. >> let me ask this. i need to clear a few things so everyone has the perspective. there is no accusation that there was a weapon involved. there was no accusation that this officer was reacting to a physical threat. i mean how in the name of saying she was wander iing may have wandered into traffic. how do you justify pummelling smn somebody -- a woman defenseless, unarmed woman like that over and over again like the video shows. >> you can't justify it. that's why they want to give this officer anonymity. they may be consulting someone to try to creatively make some reason up. you were taught other means when someone is passively doing
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something you want to detain them for. you are taught to use lesser means of force. if he needed to take her down, he could have simply used some control hold on her. he could have used something on his back belt he's given in the court of his duty. he has mace, pepper spray, some other type of spray. there are other lesser means of force to be used or how about this? try to be a man, hold her arm, put her in a wrist lock and handcuff her. there is a real problem, blows one through 15. what was he thinking? he's the one that's a danger to the community. he's the one that needs to be on an involuntary hold. he is the one that's mentally impaired. something is the matter with the system that you will give him anonymity but attack the woman
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who's beaten. i believe they will continue to. they are going to keep him anonymous while they keep investigating her. have you talked to your mother without compromising anything? have are you talked to her about that day and her feelings now? >> i have talked to her. >> what's she saying to you? >> she said she wasn't doing anything -- >> she's hurt and i just want to tell you, reverend al, they are going to try to prosecute her for something criminally. statements out of someone who may be facing some type of criminal liability, even though are there is nothing to justify 1 through 15. statements regarding her
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injuri injuries. >> has she said anything to her about injuries? when i visit her, she was in pain. they were giving her medicine. . they were giving her ice packs. she was in pain and hurting. >> if you could say something to the officer, if he's watching on television, what would you say to him? >> i feel he betrayed my mom, dis respected my mom, beat her on the side of the freeway without a care in the world. it seemed like he just got lost in himself. i don't understand. if you saw someone beating a dog like that on the freeway, they would be in jail for beating a dog. >> that's true. >> we'll be following this . i'm sure you will stay on this and we'll keep following this. thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> we'll keep your mother in our prayers as well.
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>> thank you so much. >> please. thank you, reverend. >> coming up, what does nba superstar lebron james have to do with rnc chair reince priebus? and the hot car death case. was it an accident or was it murder? today, the mom visits her husband in jail as questions build about her. the justice files ahead.
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mastermind is in u.s. custody. he was back in court this morning. and yet, congressman trey goudy, now chair of the gop's benghazi panel, is still hunting for scandal. today, we learned he's ready to call the committee back next month during recess. so they do nothing on jobs. nothing on minimum wage. nothing on immigration. when it comes to a phony scandal, you better get back to work. it's the waste of time and money. today we learned they are requesting there's 3.3 million. this is a party that loves it and the spending is just as blatant. >> the president released his budget and showed us his big ideas. higher spending. >> we ought to do something about our spending problem.
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>> he wants more spending and more tax hikes that will hurt our economy. >> giving the federal government more money would be like giving a cocaine addict more cocaine. >> today, the same gop house that wants to slash the safety net is getting are rigright to spending millions on a fake scandal. joing me now is richard wolf. thanks for coming on. >> you bet, reverend. >> $3.3 million on a phony benghazi scandal? isn't gop the party of fiscal responsibility? >> they are. they are also trying to do something of the job of oversight in congress. the hard thing for them is to explain how they can spend the same as the house intelligence committee. you are talking about something that was intelligence-related.
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if they are going to spend this money on one issue where intelligence failed badly to the cost sadly of three people's lives. what are they going to spend on the entire intelligence budget in overseeing that. it's disproportionate. we knew that. the committee has a problem with trumped-up charges or excessive over investigation of something that's been thoroughly investigated. they have to do everything they can to -- the finances look skewed. >> when you talk about money, one of the things they keep bringing up -- i'm talking about the republicans. they keep comparing benghazi to water gate. listen. >> somebody the other day said to me, this is as bad as we watergate. nobody died in watergate. >> benghazigate is the right term for this. it's probably more serious than
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watergate. >> this will go down as the greatest cover up. i'm talking about watergate and the rest. >> get to the bottom like we did in watergate and iran contra. >> add watergate and iran are-contra together and multiply it by ten or so you will get to benghazi. >> it's extremist and republicans may have started to believe their own rhetoric. but benghazi select committee budget is $3.3 million. adjusted for inflation. the senate watergate committee, the select committee was just $2.4 million. again, that's what adjusted for inflation. so they are spending more on the benghazi committee than lawmakers spent. >> there was actually more value for money back in the old days
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when maybe there was no sort of fund-raising letters going out on the back of this kind of thing as we know there has been about the benghazi issue. it's interesting hearing republicans talk about people didn't lose their lives in watergate. but this is so much bigger. i don't recall them spending this kind of money or attention on -- i don't know -- the intelligence failures of the run-up to the water in iraq they were enthusiastic about. it is disproportionate on a historical basis whether it's watergate but in terms of their own history with the last republican president. >> you're right. no lives were lost in watergate. they are the ones bringing up watergate. i wanted to help them do research on their point. >> that's useful. >> let me ask you on the bigger picture. is this going to hurt them politically? >> any time it looked like this is a witch hunt but they are out
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of touch with political priorities of the country it's a problem. they are playing to the base, to people who hear the word benghazi and it conjures conspiracy theories. that's not how they will get back to being a national party. anything that looks like they are overdoing it, overplaying their hand like spending too much money on this kind of investigation when the economy is still struggling, that's a problem for republicans nationally. >> richard, thank you for your time tonight. >> thanks, reverend. >> still ahead, new focus on the mom in the death of a baby boy inside a hot car in georgia. lots of people talking about what she said at her son's funeral. also, a political odd couple is making headlines today in washington. it's time to wake up. your "politics nation" summer break is back. stop .
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at legalzoom.com we put the law on your side. was it an accident or was it murder? the hot car death case that's captivating the nation. was the 22-month-old boy left in a sweltering hot car by his father on purpose? ross has pled not guilty claiming he forgot to drop off his son at day care on his way
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to work. today, new questions are swirling around the actions of the little boy's mom leanna harris. this morning cameras caught her capturing the cobb county jail where her husband is in custody, charged with murdering his son. harris stayed for just other 30 minutes and didn't talk to reporters. >> how is ross doing? what do you want people to know this morning? >> she had her hand on her head and looked upset as the car pulled away from the jail. leanna is coming under increasing scrutiny for the role she may have played in her son's death. according to police, she remained calm and had an unusual
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reaction when she went to pick up her son at day care and was told he had never been dropped off. >> she's like -- just got really calm and was like, i don't know what to do. they walked into the lobby and in front of several witness withes, all of the sudden she states, ross must have left him in the car. they're like, what? there is no other reason. are ross must have -- no other explanation, excuse me. ross must have left him in the car. they tried to console her and they're like, no, there are a thousand reasons. he could have take then him to lunch or something. we don't know yet. she's like, no. >> we are also learning of a bizarre statement she made about the toddler at his funeral saying, "i miss him with all my heart. would i bring him back? no. to bring him back into this broken world would be selfish." leanna has not been charged. questions are building.
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joining me now is cobb county former prosecutor holloway and carmen saint george. thank you both for being here. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> philip, police haven't called leanna a suspect. she hasn't been charged. do you think this investigation is headed in that direction are. >> what we know from the preliminary hearing is that the investigation is certainly considering all options including whether or not and to what extent she may or may not have been involved. you mengsd statements made. this had to be kept in context. we don't know the statements. the has only laid out a small or incomplete picture. in the end i suspect we'll know more than we do now.
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>> context is always important. let me ask you. leanna harris is standing by her husband. at the funeral she said, am i angry with ross? absolutely not. it has hs never crossed my mind. ross is and was and will be, if we have more children, a wonderful father. ross is a wonderful daddy and leader for our household. cooperer meant the world to him. where do you think the investigation is going? >> they have a problem. i don't know how a wonderful father forgets their child in a car. i'm a parent with two kids under the age of 4. you don't forget which i shall -- children in your car. the police are playing it close to the vest because there are many clues.
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they have searches on the computer. search warrants for information. statements made by both her and her husband. the reactionses. this ises a time we look, speculate, investigate, carefully dissect to determine whether this was an accident or rises to the level of a crime. >> one thing that's very interesting, philip, is that police reports say ross harris looked at video of a veterinarian showing what it was like for a pet to be left inside a hot car. here is part of the video. watch this. >> 25 minutes. it's now -- oh, gosh, what is it? 113 degrees. it's awful. the only thought going through
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my head right now is i want out of the car. you know, everything in my body is saying get out, get out, get out. you're helpless. you have no control over what's happening. you don't understand what's happening. you just know that your body is getting so overheated that you could be in real danger. i mean, this kills. it's a lousy way to die. >> he watched that video twice, five days before this incident. what can investigators try to see is this indicative of. >> what we saw at least in the eyes of somewhat they have seen is the prosecution laid out the case though they didn't are have to that this was a premeditated, perhaps deliberated murder. that means malice. premeditation and deliberation. if the rest of the evidence
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leads to that point, this video would bring the case potentially to the death penalty. this would show malignancy of the heart, depravity, torture. those are the things that in this state can qualify a case for the death penalty under the appropriate circumstances. >> carmen, if there is a trial, would this video be damaging and lead toward what philip says mays possibly be a prosecutor's decision to move. five days before this young boy was found in the car, he watched this video twice. >> it's extremely damaging. think of yourself sitting there as a juror on a case and watching this video. you're horrified. you are sitting there saying, how could somebody sit there and not only watch it once but twice. for what purpose? are you really that depraved
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that you are thinking of how long it will take a child to die and what the effects of that will be? we have to sit heres as a country and think about what we are going to do to protect our children and hold people responsible. care takers. parents who leave their children unattended in vehicles. in nassau county, senator martens proposed legislation on this topic that children under 8 should not be left in vehicles unattended without a parent or guardian or somebody over the anyone age of 12 the in severe heat or cold. this is what happens. it's devastating. >> not only philip leaving his child. leaving him all day saying he forgot the child was in the car and he forgot he didn't drop the child at day care. is that going to be something he's got to convince the prosecutors and possibly a jury?
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>> it's going to be up to what the jury may think about whether or not he actually did forget the child. keep in mind, we know this happens. as counterintuitive as it is to those of us who have children, how could you leave it in a car and forget, there are cases it can and does happen. whether or not that's the truth here will be for a jury to decide. >> all right. philip holloway and carmen st. george, thank you for your time tonight oh. >> thank you. >> coming up, a good news story from washington. they don't agree on much. but senators cory booker and rand paul are taking positive steps today. first, get ready. we are running into our "politics nation" summer break, next. ♪ in the nation, the safest feature in your car is you.
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we are back with a pause from the political battles of the day. a time to rest, relax and are recharge. that's right. it's back. it's time once again for the "politics nation" summer break. and at number three, we go to spain and day two of the running of the bulls. thousands ran alongside the fierce animals. i haven't seen a run like this since republicans ran away from this guy.
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at number two, we head to the bronx where are we found a lawsuit that gives speaker boehner's stunt a run for its money. if you snooze, you're sued. this guy is suing espn, the announcers, major league baseball, and the yankees for $10 million for a, "avalanche of dispa rajjing words against him." you be the judge. >> it's not the place you come to let's see. i tell you what, how comfortable is that? probably won't have any neck problems tomorrow. >> is that guy to his left his buddy who's letting him sleep or is he here alone? what's the deal with this guy? >> maybe that's his buddy and he likes him better asleep. >> you got me. look out oh for my lawsuit. but at number one, key west, florida. a key lime pie eating contest. competitors had to finish pans
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of the pie without using their hands. please insert your own blueberry pie joke here. i think we have a new segment for "politics nation." that's today's "summer break." ts and even piano tuners were just as simple? thanks to angie's list, now it is. we've made hiring anyone from a handyman to a dog walker as simple as a few clicks. buy their services directly at angieslist.com no more calling around. no more hassles. start shopping from a list of top-rated providers today. angie's list is revolutionizing local service again. visit angieslist.com today. [ cat meows ] ♪ ♪ da-da-da-da-da, bum-da, bum-da ♪ ♪ bum-da, bum-da ♪ the animals went in two by two ♪ ♪ the sheep and the frog and the kangaroo ♪ ♪ and they all went marching, marching in two by two ♪ ♪
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that was a better answer. the citi thankyou preferred card. earn two times the thankyou points on entertainment and dining out all with no annual fee. to apply, go to citi.com/thankyoucards. i'm in washington, d.c. tonight. it's easy to think the city is a mess, that no one can find common ground are. it doesn't have to be that way. today democratic senator cory booker and republican senator rand paul teamed up to unveil legislation to overhaul the criminal are justice. system. the redeem act would expunge juvenile records for nonviolent crime, limit solitary confinement of children and restore food stamp and welfare benefits for low level drug offenders who served their sentences. i disagree with senator paul on just about everything. but this new bill he and senator booker are proposing would be a
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big step in the right direction. it shows that we can always find common ground, even with people we disagree with. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. children's hour. let's play "hardball.." good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start tonight with this challenge on our border. with 52,000 young central americans crowded on our country's frontier, the american people want the president to take charge. they see the network that create ared this chaos, cartels that exploit children, the so-called coyotes who smuggle people from honduras with false promises of easy entry and