let's get to work. >> articles of impeachment, let's get going on that. >> should we replace him with a space robot? >> make it hurt. >> removal from office, whether that's i mpeachimpeachments. >> articles of impeachment against president obama. >> impeachment is a message that has to be sent to our president. >> this is not about impeachment. >> impeachment. >> this is not about impeachment. >> not me, man, i go rogue. ♪ >> you're looking at the live shot of the president of the united states of america about to be greeted or being greeted by rick perry, the governor of texas. u.s. one landing in dallas, texas. the meeting of president obama with local leaders and faith leaders as well, rick perry, as

you well know indicated some chagrin for the president not returning his letter asking for attention to the border. now governor perry has the opportunity face to face to share concerns with the president of the united states, who as i just indicated landed not long ago in dallas texas on air force one. we'll tell you more about this later should any news develop. >> republicans want to run the clock instead of spreading resources to help families in need, republicans are trying to spread impeachment fever. in the next hour, president obama is scheduled to meet with rick perry as we've just seen. president obama will sit down with the governor to discuss the droves of children brought to the united states border from other countries. let me tell you what the president won't do. to the standard operating procedure, stalling is as more children reach border patrol stations and resources are trained. republicans want to hamper

national response to the urgent demands and wants to spend 3 plt 7 billion to aid detainees in texas. the president urges congress to untangle the unrealistic and ineffective immigration laws. the president is ready to act. >> i take executive action only when we have a serious problem, a serious issue, and congress chooses to do nothing. >> america cannot wait forever for them to act. that's why today i'm beginning a new effort to fix as much of our immigration system as i can on my own without congress. >> the republicans on the other hand want president obama to slow down. >> this president seems determined to be -- to be tone deaf in terms of the human consequences of the policies he himself has caused and he should go there and see what we saw.

i think then he would perhaps reconsider his decision not to do anything to solve the problem. but rather than just throw money at it. >> anyone interested in a border visit is interested in pumping the brakes. the president is acutely aware of the dire situation facing the children and their families crossing into the united states. as evidenced by his tireless effort to help them, the president's push towards positive and crucial change was met with treasonness accusations. >> the tipping point has been the illegal immigration issue, the crisis created by obama. impeachment is a message sent to the president that we're not going to put up with lawlessness and lying to the american people and means fraud. i really want congress to do its job, the constitutional power that they have to halt an imperial presidency. >> sarah palin's premature evacuation from the governor's seat eliminated any of other

political credibility but her lose grip on the legislative reality is not without consequence. palin's arsenal of charges against the president aren't confined to the dark trenches of the conservative media. palin is in the ears and pockets of serious contenders to hold office in this country. palin's latest project came on the scene as the face of iowa pig castration, you heard that right. in her face for a senate seat, joni ernst mirrored in a forum. >> he is overstepping his bounds and i do think, yes, he should face those repercussions, whether that's removal from office, whether that's impeachment, but as a u.s. senator absolutely. as a u.s. senator though, we have to push that issue and can't be silent on things like that. >> amid criticism, ernst has

back pedaled saying she does not believe the president is a dictator but repeated use of unilateral actions sure makes him look like one. right wing wants to mark the president as a lawless tie rant. >> i knew we had to follow the laws and what is more caring to keep adding more mass graves as children are encouraged to flood into the united states because the commander in chief will not secure the border? i think the more compassionate think, when you make people follow the law. >> we're seeing an explosion in little boys and girls coming across the border and it's the direct result of president obama's lawlessness. >> governor, on the issue of lawlessness, i agree with you, i agree with jonathan turley and mark levin, three very bright people. >> the feeble last ditch effort only illuminates what

conservatives value most, it isn't care for children in need or comprehensive reform or even progress, it's obstruction. they would rather see a marred president than a successful america. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question, what do republicans care about more, text a for impeachment and b for reform. go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com. i'll bring you the results later in the show. congresswoman, what leg do conservatives have to stand on? >> even john boehner said impeachment is off the table. these are people who live in a fact free zone and a solution free zone. the only answer is to take political pot shots of the president of the united states trying to solve the problem.

it will be interesting to see whether or not john boehner who of course has resisted comprehensive immigration reform. if he'll even take up the emergency spending that the president wants to do. you know, here's the other thing, you know, that the the children flooding our borders, there's been a 700% increase in children going to belize and nicaragua and mexico and costa rica. it's not just the united states. these children are fleeing violence that was -- hurt the heart of any person who is really thinking about them, rape and gangs and you know, the kinds of threats that they are finding in virtual war zones, that's what the president of honduras said, that children are fleeing his country because it's a war zone.

>> i can't understand how cold and mean these comments are that we're hearing from supposedly credible people. >> cold and mean is to be underscored there. what do you think is the advantage of such callousness in this regard of the condition of those people there on ground and using it as political football to score points against president obama as opposed to reaching out to those people who are most vulnerable? >> i can't believe that they are reflective of the vast majority of american people. imagine the mother in honduras who would send that child, risking that child across the desert because it's so impossible for that child to live safely in his or her own country. you know, i mean, i have such empathy and yornd that, it is the law, not the law of barack obama but the law of george w. bush.

>> congresswoman, let me very briefly tell the people what you're watching here is president obama descending the stairs of air force one in a long anticipated meeting with rick perry who is smiling face the as he greets the president. we'll tell you later if we discover anything about what their conversation is about, if they are able to discuss immigration reform, if they are able to talk about what congresswoman jan schakowsky just spoke of. president obama's meeting with rick perry today. >> i hope they come up with a plan on how to deal hue manly and fairly with the children that are there that are crossing the border. i do want to make the point again though, that the law that the president is obeying right now is a law that was passed

under the bush administration actually prevents sending unaccompanied children back to the home larnd. when they talk about this is all the president's fault, the other falsehood is that because of the deferred action plan for immigrant children that are already here, that the president adopted by executive order, in fact, this increase in immigration of unaccompanied children started long before that ever went into effect. it is the violence that a recent study that was published today said, it is the violence that has caused these children to come out. i'm hoping that the governor and the president can come to an disagreement on how we treat the children so they are not in inhumane conditions and rather they have legal representation and they are in settings fitting for young children and for adole less sents and not in a prison cell with a number of other kids. >> well stated.

thank you so very much. >> thank you. >> let me bring in dr. james peterson, associate professor of english at lehigh university and msnbc contributor. before i get to this immediate situation, tell us in terms of your english professor back ground and interpretation of drama, seeing president obama descend the stairs of air force one to be greeted by a smiling rick perry. talk about the theater of politics that despite all of the missiles fired from each side to the other, that the the progress of american politics, even in the nastiness, there seems to be some decor up. >> a bit here. i'm not sure if this meet and greet actually reflects that. i think it's really interesting the way in which the political theater was played here, governor perry's camp saying we're not going to do the tarmac shake but they are going to do it as long as they get this sit down. president's camp saying you can do the sit down with the

president but it's going to have to be on our terms and where we're going to be already, we're going to be talking to the people dealing with the humane tear yan crisis without the immigration reform. there's some strange bedfellows always in politics. this happens to be one of them, obviously the crisis is in the state of texas. governor perry is still the governor. they have to meet and talk about it and it's happening in an unorthodox and interesting way. >> excellent insight there. with the amount of obstruction congress has created, how can they call on obama to halt action at the border? >> this is what is topsy-turvy, the whole idea that the borders are not secure, how could we effectively have essentially captured 52,000 children if our borders weren't secure? how could this president, president obama be the so-called deporter in chief, president who deported more undocumented immigrants than any other president in recent memory, how could he be that and not be someone enforcing the laws or

lawless. that's absurd. what we have is political theater or political dramatics and not a lot of political reality here. the reality is, this is a humanitarian crisis. if you want to understand really where the crisis comes from, you have to go back into the history, not too long ago of trade agreements like the central america free trade disagreement which removed tear i haves and other sort of i am pediments having to do with trade. the u.s. is the number one partner in honduras and other countries. what happens is these countries are being underdeveloped economically so those situations and essentially being a bad neighbor, contributes to and exacerbates what we see on our borders. we can't have this liberal free trade and poor people getting boorer in neighboring countries and expect it won't impact us directly on the borders. >> that kind of breath taking analysis you offered to us that

explains in a nutshell what's at stake and why so many are being driven by their existent shal and political needs to this country. on the other hand you have the dramatics of the republican party trying to perform the attack on obama and standing up to him. what will the right wing gain? >> someone like governor perry, not talking impeachment, he has to attack obama. he essentially lost his bona fides with the right wing by simply inty mating the presidential campaign that it would be good to allow undocumented folks who come into the country and spend their whole lives in the country to attend university in the state of texas. that lost him the election. what republicans have figured out. in order to continue pander to the extreme right, obstruct og b ing obama is the way to do that. there's literally no evidence or any rationale politically speaking to impeach the

president, especially from folks on the right. it's interesting, those who critique the president from the left probably have a little bit more it terms of evidence to think about impeachments or drone strikes, folks on the left have a better case. i'm not sure what the folks on right have. >> we have dr. james peterson breaking it down. thanks for your time. >> remember to answer tonight's question and share your thoughts on twitter at ed show and on facebook we want to know what you think. why conservatives should celebrate colorado's contraceptive policy. plus a star studded plan to put an end to extreme poverty by 2030. roenan farrow joins me next. adp by taking it to an expert ford technician.

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time now for the trenders. keep in touch on twitter and on facebook, you can find me on twitter. the ed show social media nation decided and we are reporting. here are today's top trenders voted on by you. >> i want juicy burgers, sizzling outside juicy inside. >> the number three trender, outraged. >> ceo of carls jr. and hardy's. >> $6 burger, hold the mayo. opposes raising the minimum wage. >> a lot of americans are trying to make ends meet. >> businesses will create jobs. >> states that have raised minimum wage have also increased jobs. >> you can't solve that problem by having the government artificially mandate a wage increase when there's no economic growth to support that. if you give people more money, businesses do better and they employ more people. >> i want to make sure the people understand the

consequences of raising the minimum wage. >> the number two trender, pot shots. >> obama is here in denver. >> had pizza with a group. >> in colorado they wrote, what's up on a white castle napkin? >> they wrote letters about the concerns for the economy. >> you're kinds of a buzz kill. >> president obama turns down a toek in his visit in denver? >> as president obama visited colorado, pot advocates boasted that tax revenues and tourism are up. >> don't be a -- >> and today's top trender, taking action. >> understanding that everything is connected. >> thousands of global citizens will gather together to convince world leaders to end world poverty. >> we have the skills to do that. >> we're so excited that nbc and m smt nbc are going to be partners to take the message around the world. >> big names back the global

poverty project's plans to end poverty. >> i'm excited to be a host this year in central park. >> jay-z together with no doubt, carrie underwood, fun and roots. >> what's the catch? >> people have to go to the website and take action to earn tickets. >> the world we want and envisioning is the world we're going to make. >> joining me now is ronan farrow, weekdays at 1:00 p.m. eastern here on msnbc. >> great to be here, i'm a big fan. >> it's mutual. we're big fans of yours as well. all-star lineup of global stars. tell us why it's such an important organization that's doing this work and why the idea is so compelling? >> we were talking about this before the cameras started rolling. i'm very skeptical about the model of celebrities going around with a tin cup for donations, i don't want to knock celebrities who do that or be overcynical, it's not the

answer. the interesting thing about this is they've got a totally different model and it's about actual generation of social mobilization, they are trying to get people to be activists and have an output at the end where they change issues. >> at the same time, you get a chance to raise money and generate some interest but you're also getting people involved to help the very communities in need. >> that's exactly it. and the tickets can't be purchased. you've got to go into the online eco system, global citizen festival.com. you've got to earn points by doing actual ab stan tif things. it's small things and they are real, writing a letter to your congressman and signing a petition. i'll give you an example, nobody ever wants champion polio and i would get meetings with big gates trying to get funding for polio because no one in a position of power would meet with him. it is an abandoned issue. this particular organization championed that and they are people on the hill who say they

upped the spending as a result of that. it's a direct look to actual outputs. >> very cool, insaid of singing for your supper, you've got to do the work necessary that they are trying to aim at. that's a very good idea. tell us what the difference is between this kind of global poverty project organization and other groups that have attempted to address poverty in their own way? >> i do think if you can get this kind of model to take off, it's key and changes the way people think about philanthropy. it's not a one-time payout, that's important, humanitarian relief. if you want development solutions you have to focus in on mobilizing people in a way you can actually keep going year after year. they focused in on big long-term development projects and sanitation, the three pillars this year. it's smart they focused it this way and keep it sustainable. nbc and msnbc are the broadcast partners on this. i think it speaks to the quality

of journalism that we're all trying to go for, not just passive story telling but trying to get people involved. >> actively involved in the very rea leaf of the suffering we observe around us. you have jay-z, i don't know if you saw the show yesterday, but we did have a segment, where it was me who was -- >> you had a jay-z moment. >> yes and bey kissed me on the cheek here. if it looks dirtdy. >> will you ever feel the same again? i would never change my clothes. >> utterly transformed. you have jay-z and hugh jack man, it makes a great deal to have stars behind you on this effort? >> it does. it's a double-edged sword. you can lose seriousness if you focus on the celebrity aspect but they can be a tool in getting people's interest up, if you combine it with a model and community about sustainable action, there's real potential. i'm cynical as a default post tour but it can work and i'm interested to see how people

show up on the concert. we'll broadcast the whole thing. mika was on the air and starting her points this morning. i've got to do the same. you know she's going to be ahead of me. >> but the think that's interesting, martin luther king jr. said, we're getting people involved, masses of people to be able to respond to this, not a handout. it's an intense participation in a very provocative project that seems to yield good results. >> and it's not getting people to give their few dollars. there's a place for that as i've said but this is something else. this is about mobilizing people to get the governments and world powers to really make a difference to contribute on a much larger scale. >> how do people sign up? >> you go to the website, globalcitizen festival.com. i'm new to it myself. my first year. i'm going to go through the process and get my points so i get a ticket and i hope i do because i'm supposed to be

reporting on it. if not, i'll have a problem. >> if not i'll call beyonce up. >> can you hook me up with bey. >> trying to do that man. thank you so much for joining us. >> colorado's cost effective policy to significantly lower the rate of teen pregnancies and abortions. the rapid response panel weighs in. plus, conservatives clash over john boehner's threat to sue the president. congresswoman debbie wasserman shultz joins me. next, i'm taking your questions, ask med live is just ahead.

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because i'm sure there's stuff democratic christianities aren't doing right. it disturbs me to see people who are republicans and claim to be christians doing the things they do, not practicing love and compassion and consideration of those vulnerable and not putting themselves in the place of those they so willingly demean, not being able to have any empathy for them, understanding what conditions and the predid meant they deal with. this has to be done away with. jesus talked about identifying with those who are most vulnerable and backs against the wall. those who have compassion are engaging in one of the great christian acts of all time, understanding perspectives from another person's viewpoint and then doing something about it. not judging them, not jamming them, but getting together with other people who can relief the suffering we observe. instead of trying to beat up on people, maybe we should beat up

on the problems that beat up on people and therefore we can relief their suffering. >> the next question is from allen. what do you like to do in your spare time? >> well, a lot of stuff. i love movies, i'm a movie holik and love the godfather, my favorite movie of all time, look how they massacred my son. i love "the godfather" and a lot of great movies, spike lee films and malcolm x, and i love going to independent films and like. but i also love sports. i love football and basketball. i got to tell you, last night i committed a cardinal sin for those part of the laker nation, i had a lakers cap on. my god, will lakers nation ever forgive me and when we get melo to join koeb bryant, we'll have one of the greatest teams in

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state laboratories of democracy. in truth, the concept is essential to progress. states can adopt different approaches to common issues to test and prove policies work before with their more broadly applied. so if republicans follow their own logic, we should all be taking a page from colorado when it comes to contraception. democratic governor john hickenlooper started a initiative to address the teen birth rate. colorado provided 30,000 contraceptive devices at low or no cost since 2009. they have seen a 40% drop, not a mistake, in teen birth rates in five years. the tina borgs rate has dropped 35% to 2009 to 2012 in the counties served by the initiative. for every dollar spent the family planning program saved $5.68 in medicaid costs.

the state saved $42.5 million in health care expenditures associated with teen births in 2010 alone. it's a stark contrast to the results out of texas where governor rick perry pushed ab stinance only education program. the state has the fifth highest birth rate among teenagers and state also reported the highest rate of repeat births among teenagers between 15 to 19. teenage births cost taxpayers $1.1 billion in health care, foster care and lost tax revenue in 2010 alone. folks, the lab results are in and it's clear which states' policy is working. joining me now is our rapid response panel, msnbc political analyst karen finney and assistaassist ant professor at georgetown

university. we have hard numbers proving that it really does work. >> well, because as you know, it's become a divisive social wedge issue, that's why you have someone like rick perry teaching abstinence only, we see that in other parts of the country and teen birth rates going down in other parts of the country as well when you responsibly give them the information and access to contraceptives. give them information and access to contraceptives and birth dates go down. unfortunately it's been demagogued as a social issue rernlg than a health issue and looking at what is the best interest of the woman. >> professor, isn't this just improving -- isn't just improving the quality of life for countless women, that's not all that's at stake here. this is saving the state of colorado millions of dollars. why wouldn't fiscally conservative republicans get on board with this project?

>> absolutely. one of the things i think is important to note about the colorado example, is that they were giving access to iuds, one of the most effective and expensive forms and at the heart of the hobby lobby case. one of the things we have to be really aware of. we can't let pseudoscience, the science that dictated hobby lobby, dictate incredible gains in public health. and we have to understand if we're going to have systemic guttings of the social safety net, we're going to have to have investment somewhere. and so i think the colorado miracle is going to give a lot of people pause in at what point do we make these investments to get returns we want? >> that makes a lot of sense there. miss finney, senate democrats a expediting legislation to overrule in the hobby lobby case. do you see any chance of that

actually passing? >> you know, unfortunately no. i was part of a meeting with senator harry reid earlier today and i think realistically speaking, he recognizes patty murray will introduce the legislation and try to get a vote on the floor as early as next week. they recognize it's not going to get the votes needed to pass but what it will do and what mart of the goal is what senator reid talked about, it will force republicans to be on record as saying whether or not they are for it or against it. i think what we're seeing in the aftermath of hobby lobby, it's like a war on women part two where women are saying, wait a second we're talking about access to contraception. the goal is it will become an issue that helps motivate female voters in 2014. >> professor, in light of what miss finney indicated, female voters in 2014 later on and 2016 as well. here's the reality that the republicans have been accused of being tone deaf when it komsz to gender and this only reinforces

the tone deafedness, if you will. it has to be acknowledged but what do you do in light of that? how do republicans get beyond that or do people on the other side of the aisle, the democrats, say look, this is the problem we have and we've got to confront and therefore they are not able to do anything about it? >> i think the reality is under this administration because of the constant attacks on obama, the left and democrats have gotten smarter and more strategic about using these moments as opportunities to fund raise and to organize and mobilize. no one let's these moments pass anymore. so i think that what's been amazing about young voters is that we're monitoring the supreme court in ways we haven't in the past because we're starting to see the real life implication of this type of change. so i think that one of the things that the past six or seven years have taught us. every moment is the critical moment for organizing. i'm hopeful this hobby lobby decision will be again, the next

mobilization moment for the party. >> miss finney, do you think at least inspires those who feel they are being taken advantage of or at least disrespected in the process to really get out there, is that going to be sufficient to get people coming to the polls? >> partially yes. the other thing that's really critically important and this is also something senator reid talked about, is organizing, we have to put more of the dollars from the party committees and what have you, the democratic party at least needs to put more money into organizing and knocking on doors and registering people to vote and then staying in contact with those people so we can get them to the polls. it's one thing to get angry in june or july or august, it's another thing to make sure people are motivated to get to the polls. that's something you're going to see a lot more of an emphasis on, the combination hopefully will get the numbers out. >> you were right there at georgetown university, are your students outraged by this kind of thing, especially female students? >> i think these are not issues.

i think part of the problem with this conversation is that birth control is not a controversy. it is a matter of life. for millions of women. i think what's amazing is that i teach about the history of girlhood in america, sex education is not a controversial issue until the past 15 years. so the abstinence only industrial complex and millions of dollars that has been made out of this industry, this is a new thing, right? so when i say that in 1930 our government took it upon itself to teach about venereal disease, students say there's something in the water right now because this is insane. none of this makes any sense historically. the students don't understand what's wrong with us right now. and this is what's making them organize and mobilize and realize this is nonsense. >> the abstinence industrial complex, well said there. thank you so much for joining us and karen, stick around we want

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welcome back to "the ed show." the republican pace is getting more radical, staunch conservatives seem to have impeachment mania. speaker john boehner's attempt to ants what he considers a rogue presidency is to sue

president obama. >> the constitution makes it clear that the president's job is to faithfully execute the laws. in my view, the president has not faithfully executed the laws. >> reaction from boehner's own party has been swift and severe. extreme conservatives are making low blows against him. eric eriksson from "redstate" wrote, john boehner and the house republicans may have lack the testicular fortitude to fight president obama but i would kindly ask that he save the taxpayers further money on a political stunt and they should man up. sarah pale lin slammed speaker boehner's plan. >> americans would be congress, those concerned about protecting our constitution and using the

one tool that congress does have to halt what is going on, this lawlessness from the top, one tool they have, are articles of impeachment, let's get going on that. and it is not necessarily a lawsuit being filed by congress, because you don't bring a lawsuit to a gun fight and there is no place for lawyers on the front line. >> from the far right, a lawsuit is not enough. i'm joined again by karen finney. karen, the lawsuit is likely to draw out into the fall closer to mid term elections, can democrats use this to our advantage, to their advantage? can they make something out of this. >> i'm sure they will. republicans think they can use it to their advantage and again with democrats, this is another example of do-nothing congress. we will see the numbers in terms of how much money is spent on these frivolous lawsuits and

this sort of frif olty. you cannot trust the republicans when they are in control of the house. here's what happens. right? when democrats were in control, things got done. there's a list of items. when republicans were in control of the house, nothing got done. because that's their focus, on doing nothing and obstructing president obama. >> seems like a trite and basic question, but are republicans getting more radical? >> i think they are getting more scaredy-cat of their base. part of the problem, both in the house and senate, is that they can't get consensus among each other to get anything done. you know, so they're afraid of and have trouble with their own faction so they can't all get on the same page half the time. we've seen that time and time again. which means then they're feeling fekless. >> yeah, fekless and prfrivolit.

what do you think will come out of that meeting? >> what should come out of the meeting is the funds that the president asked for to expedite this humanitarian crisis that we're now facing on the border. i suspect -- i doubt we will see that. for perry, this is a -- you know, he is trying to manage this against his 2016 ambitions and certainly for president obama, he is trying to get something done in terms of let's move forward. the administration put forward a plan. they have sent joe biden to central america. they sent secretary keri. they asked for funding. they are trying to expedite this process. the president is hoping to pick up support for that and i think you are unlikely to see rick perry lending support no that. it is much more fun for the republicans to just say, it is really all president obama's

fault. >> of course. point that finger. so conservatives don't like president obama's humanitarian crisis on the border but they aren't doing anything about immigration reform so how can they blame president obama? >> they will even blame president obama. they said oh, because of what the president did with the dream act, not recognizing that part of what is happening in central america is that you have bad actors or people smuggling these kids up here. you have, you know, trafficking going on. a lot of other factors as part of this. oh, and how about the house won't even put the bill that senate passed on the floor for an up or down vote. and why? because they know it would pass. so yeah, everything is president obama's fault. even when republicans can't get their act together, it is president obama's fault. don't forget that. >> yeah, the sky is falling, the president's fault there. so calling for the president to visit the border but realistically, is that going to accomplish anything? >> i think it was a wise decision not to go to the border. i say that having worked for president clinton and i know

what goes into those trips. you know as well. the kind of resources that that would take away from what they are actually trying to do, i think is unnecessary. i think it would be a political stunt. i think it was a wise decision that today the president actually while he was in texas met with faith leaders and others who are actually working to solve the problems. some of the people working to try to ensure that some of the children have a facility where they can be held responsibly and humanely as the process goes forward. that's the right thing for him to do. but republicans take any pot shot at this president that they can. >> yeah. 30 seconds. how is this playing in mid terms? >> in the mid terms, i think as long as the president can keep part of the process that he is working on moving forward, i think it will be fine and again, i think an opportunity to show that when republicans are in charge, nothing gets done. >> there it is. as succinctly stated as possible. karen finney, thanks so much for

your time tonight. >> take care. >> "politicsnation" with the reverend al sharpton starts right now. good evening, rev. >> good evening, dr. dyson. and thanks to you for tuning in. i'm live tonight from washington, d.c. tonight, breaking news. right now, president obama is in dallas, texas. meeting with governor rick perry and local leaders about the border crisis. within the last hour, the president touched down and was greeted by governor perry. who recently attacked president obama with an off the wall conspiracy theory. >> i have to believe that when you do not respond in any way, that you are either inept or you have some ulterior motive of which you are functioning from. >> al ulterior motive? it was an attack without