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cell phones and kids sending text messages to each other. >> this seems to me the key thing. if you have a kid who's ma -- who's a 16-year-old, receiving . >> good evening, chris, that was, thanks to you at home for joining us this hour him at one point in our nation's recent ristory, a man named rick perry was definitely going to be president. at the end of president obama's first tooerm term the whole country went red they thought on the heels of that election and obamacare, they thought they had
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president obama a one-term president. in the summer of 2011 the circus had started, they had michelle bachmann running, hermann kane and ron paul and all these people not the wrong guy they were definitely not going to be president. >> that kir circus was on the way. they knew these folks were not their candidate. when in august of that year, the candidate who was perfectly designed by god to defeat barak obama in 2012 he got around to announcing he was going to run. rick perry is good looking. he had been governor of texas for 1350 years. he had bombs. he had access. he is very, very conservative like him him rick perry on paper was perfect.
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he was definitely going to be president or least he was going to be the republican tom knee for president. the week he announced galloped to republican voters and republican leaning voters, those voters picked rick perry by a mile. the number of voters that picked him as their preferred nominee for president was 29%. that may not sound like much. there were a million people in the field at that point. with that 29%, governor perry was first by a mile. the next closest contender was mitt romney. rick perry was going to be the nom 93. he was probably going get elected president. on paper, he was perfect. and then the campaign started. the first rumblings that something may be wrong were sort of subtle, frankly. it was the first few major debates. nothing went wrong for perry, it
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was lick he was sleeping through them. he was boring. he was stiff, he was awkward, he had weird body language. he kept repeating the same things over and over again, even when they were not related to the things people were talking about, he was unimpressive t. governor, himself, acknowledged he wasn't doing that great. he said debates weren't his strong suit. >> i was trying to get up every day and do my job and debates are not mimp strong suit u. you foe we get up, do them, try to let people see our passion. >> old people would see his passion. not way hef wanted. >> that actual moment, when he was walk ought of that debate venue, that was kind of the actual moment. that was the start of it all falling apart. he left that debate that night. his next stop outside the debate was a fraternity the beta
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zeta phi fraternity. he said debates aren't my strong suit and went straight to the state house. governor perry responded he was very much if favor of states rights. he said, quote, it was actually the reason we not the revolution in the 16th century was to get away from that kind of hornerous crown. the 16th century for the american revolution. when people screw up what century it is, it's usually you don't remember if you are talking about something in the 1700s, that's the 18th century, to talk about the american revolution happening in the 16ths that would be the 1700s. that was a weird moment. looking back if retrospec, we maybe should have seen that was a sign of something that may be
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wrong with this candidacy, it became more than clear that something really was very wrong. >> we're going to actually get you out of ear right at 9:00 t. last thing, first of all, governor perry, you can't leave new hampshire without getting a couple of things, essentials from new hampshire. the first thing is we call this in new hampshire we call it liquid gold but you will put it on your pancakes and waffles and whatever southern food you eat in texas. this is pure maple syrup from the state of new hampshire. >> there has still been no explanation for rick perry loving up on maple syrup speech during his run for president. this group claims to be able cure people.
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the governor appeared to definitely have a good time at that event. it seemed like something es was going on there. it has been interesting to me that tape, that appearance by rick perry on the campaign trail running for president, that did not get a ton of attention. i felt that tape people felt was to embarrassing to show, for whatever reason that tape never received a lot of air time. not long after that start of remarkable appearance. things did publicly fall apart for rug perry. >> and i tell you, examiners, education and the what's the third one there, let's see. >> five. >> oh, okay, commerce, education and the. >> epa? sponsor epa, there you go. >> seriously. >> is epa the one you were
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talking about? >> no, sir, no, sir, we were talking about the agencies of government the epa needs to be rebuilt, for the doubt about that. >> you can't name that one? >> the third agency of government i would do away with education, commerce and let's see i can't the third one i can't. oops. >> twlabt epa? >> a lot of people thought the oops would just be the oevend rick perry's campaign for president. he came in as the front runner. he was a guy almost a shoe-in then oops not that long after the oops experience, rick perry told a group of college students he would appreciate their votes if they were 21-years-old. the voting age is actually 18 the election is being held on to have 36th. that same day, governor perry
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went on cnn and said this. >> washington has abused the constitution. you go back to the, a decade ago with woodrow wilson, you start the 16th amendment allowed for the income tax. >> you go back a decade ago to woodrow wilson, woodrow wilson was president from fen 13 to 1921. so few go back decade to the presidency, own, a little more than a week of that, governor perry had a serious conversation with a voter ability our wars in afghanistan and in iran. >> about the two next wars, how do you feel about it? >> she asked about iran, afghanistan and i try not to
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make a question, excuse me, iraq, thank you very much, that will be on the front page of the something. >> he was still in the presidential race at that point. he was not yet dropping out t. day after he talked ability the war in iraq front page of something. the day after that, he was asked about president obama's nominees to the supreme court. he decided in that question that he would comment specifically on supreme court justice -- >> when you see his appointment from my perspective inarguably inactivist judges, whether it was, for the, not the may or.
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>> sonia so to may or. >> rick perry just did not cut it as a presidential candidate. it was just thing after thing after thing. when the iowa caucuss happened on january 3rd he came in fifth behind newt gingrich and the other guys, he came into not that long before as the prohibitive front runner. on the night before the caucus, he told reporters that he was quitting the race. >> with the voters' zex tonight in i, what i've decided to return to texas, assess the results of tonight's caucus, determine whether there is a path forward for piefl in this race. >> and in presidential politics, that is how you equipment you say you are going home to think about it. that's quitting. rick perry kind of did it again.
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after quitting the night of the caucuss, he did go home to texas where opinion he announced he was rung again. why not? he had come in fifth in iowa, sixth in new hampshire, he got 30.71% of the new hampshire primary. he said he was coming back in because he had a plan to win if south carolina. he did not win in south carolina. he dropped out for good from the presidential race two days before the primary in south carolina. but that extension of his campaign. it gave him an opportunity to screw one thing up. he stated turkey should be kicked out of nato because it was run by islamists. turkey was angry as you might imagine. he managed to create a small and inexplicable international incident where nobody had any
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idea what he was talking about. it made everybody anything richl that was the one way his presidential campaign made a splash. :00. rick perry was the perfect candidate on paper. if real life, rick perry was a disaster. what has been fascinating to watch since then is that governor rick perry has taken one campaign for president in 2012. he clearly wants to run again if 2016. he looks back and surveys that landscape with the oops and making out with the syrup and monto mayored on the revolution was not in the 1500s and you have to be 21 to vote after the election is and not rnling where the other war is and woodrow wilson was a president a decade ago, he looks back as his live performance and has apparently decided none of that was the problem.
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he apparently decided this was the one thing for him that actually was a problem. >> how do you feel being criticized by a number of these other candidates on the stage for being too soft on immigration, sir? >> i fell pretty normal getting criticized by these folks, but the fact of the matter is this, there is nobody on the stage who has spent more time working on border security than i have, but if you say that we should not educate children that have come into our state by no other reason than they have been brought there by no fall but their own i don't think you have a heart. we need to be educating these children because they will become a drag on our society. this was a state issue. texans voted on it and i still support it greatly. >> senator santorum. >> it start off, a few very loud cheers there, initially.
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they get drowned out. it went on to be a long chorus of the wing. that booing, apparently, what rick perry has been stug ability. when he thinks about what he wishes he could have done differently or do over about his presidential run. other than his new fashionable eye class ifs, the one major makeover governor rick perry has gone through is that he no longer makes the mistake of talking about immigrants or immigration without pounding his chest. so with this current real crisis on the border, kids and young families have turned up on the border, rick perry another proposal for president obama ability one thing that ought to be done, one thing president obama said rick perry demanded of him, the one thing governor perry wants is he wants the national garsd sent to the
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border. >> the governor's one western e ken that he mentioned to me was that setting aside the supplemental, i should go ahead and authorize having national guard troops surge at the border right away. >> in the face of this very real, very big crisis happening in his state, this national guard thing this is the one idea that governor rick perry wants to be known for, send the military, send troops, send the national guard. it's important to him that he sound very tough on this issue and of course there is nothing tougher than sending troops! the cadet. but troops and the national guard it should be noted are also completely irrelevant to this particular crisis on the border, oh, people have a difference, this kind of crisis on the border. as an emperric equal matter is
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irrelevant to this crisis because what sets this border crisis apart is that this is not a situation in which people are speaking across the border. this is one that manifests as people walk off to border control acts and surrendering themselves to them. walking up to border agents and turning themselves in. >> border patrol acts picked up illegal immigrants. >> what makes it unusual is they gave it up as they stepped on to u.s. soil. a spokesman tells us they needed those vans because they were immediately giving temss up. border patrol says a thousand parents surrender each day. >> we're not having to chase them down anymore. tear family units or unaccompanied children and they come over here, they want to get caught. they make no quarles ability
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getting caught. >> governor rick perry of texas is dying to have a national comeback in politics. he thinks he needs to have a do-over and is super tough. he is calling for armed troops to deal with this problem. what exactly would armed troops do in this situation to help? threaten to shoot kids and moms while they are turning themselves in with their hands in the air? immigration comes in all different shapes and sizes. in this particular one, nobody is sneaking across the border. this is not unguarded. these folks coming across are seeking border patrol acts out. how is having troop there is not going to have that happen? usa today editorialized on in
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this morning, for the most part, these children are turning themselves in as soon as they get to the border. >> that is why nobody asks governor rick perry on his opinion on policy matters, but policy will have to be the way this problem gets solved. the president did have to meet with governor perry yesterday and listen to his national guard suggestion. thanks, governor the president today in austin gave a rip snorting speech where he went after congress for basically not making sense on this issue for trying to find political capital in this crisis instead of fixing this crisis. i don't know if he has done this before. president obama today called on honestly the most foul mouth character ever played by mark wahlberg in order to make his point to congress. >> it's a little violent for kids, but they are seen in the movie where mark wal berg
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they're on a stakeout and somehow the guy loses the guy that they're trapping, wahlberg is all upset yelling at the guy the guy looks up and said, who are you? wahlberg says i'm the guy doing my job. you must be to the other guy. sometimes i feel like saying to these guys, a imthe guy doing my job, you must be the other guy. so rather than wait another political stunt the waste time, waste taxpayer's money, i got a better idea. do something. >> the president requested nearly 34 billion to surgery resources both at the border and throughout the system for these
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families for deportation and are handling them until they can be sent being. there are mixed reports and fast changing reports out of washington over the last 24 hours about whether or not republicans in congress are going to vote for those resources or follow rick perry's lead in instead the apparent front run irafter all did look good on paper.
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today. republican house speaker john boehner has been saying for a couple weeks now house republicans were going to file a lawsuit against the president because they object to actions he has taken as president but before today they wouldn't say what exactly those actions were to which they objected. just before they released that specific information finally tonight president obama had this to say about their lawsuit at his speech in austin, texas. >> there are a number of republicans in congress including a number in the texas delegation who are mad at me for taking these actions, they actually plan to sue me. the truth is with all these actions i am facing this year i am issuing executive orders at the lowest rate in years. it's not clear how it is the republicans didn't seem to mind when problem took more executive actions than i did. maybe it's just me they don't like. i don't know.
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maybe there is some principle out there that i haven't discerned. i haven't figured out. you know, you hear some of them. all right. you sue him. impeach him. really? really? for what? you will sue me for doing my job? okay. i mean, think about. that you will use taxpayer money to sue me for doing my job. while you don't do your job. >> president obama made remarks mid-day calling on congress to pass the emergency appropriation, criticizing house republicans or imgriegs reform,
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he went into all this in a speech. he is teasing congressional republicans as you saw for suing him. at 35:30 eastern time the house republicans released the details of that lawsuit with president obama. speaker boehner announced he would be suing, he wouldn't say for what. today they announced what they are suing the president for is him delaying one year one part of the health reform law. the president requires employers of a certain size to provide health insurance for employees. house republicans do not like that part of the law. they do not want it implemented ever. now they are suing president obama for not implementing it sooner. because he made the decision to do so, himself, kind of a weird moment. but the weird moment is happening at a time when there is a legitimate crisis, not a made up political crisis, but a real crisis on the southern border, specifically if texas. the president has put an emergency proposal on the table
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right now to address it right now in congress in the same congress that just today sued the president. that makes me not liking the olds here t. senator is in a better petition to know what the odds are, senator of montana, a member of the appropriations committee. i know you were asked about this emergency legislation and how to handle it. thanks for being with us tonight to know what is going on the washington. >> thank you, rachel. >> it seems improbable given congressional politics that president obama is going to get what he is asking for in terms of surging resources to deal with the situation on the border. what is your sent of it? >> i am very hopeful we will be able to take his proposal and justify it and make sure it does what it needs to do to handle some 60,000 kids, most of them from the age of 14 to 18 on the border. look, we got a big problem. we cannot ignore it like we
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ignored the ho trust fund and immigration reform and so many things in congress. this is a problem we need a address the quicker we address it i think the more humanely we can treat these children on the border and get them to the homeland. as a father and grandfather i cannot tell you what could be going through these parents' minds a as they put them on the bus or a train or in a van to ship them north to our border. it's got to be gut wrenching. we need to deal with this problem and deal with it in a way that makes sense for the american taxpayer and for those kids that are on the border also. so i am hopeful the senate will pass a supplemental that will solve the problems, look the agencies are in front of the appropriations committee. they are got asked some tough questions.
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i have full confidence they will. i thought jay johnston did a great job and i think we'll get the questions answered and i think it will go out of the senate because we can't do nothing in this particular instance. now in hindsight, it would have been great if the house would have taken up to bipartisan immigration bill we passed a year first half ago, if the speaker put that on the floor, if you put it on the floor now, i think it would have passed the house of representatives. if that would have been done a year-and-a-half ago, we would not be here today talking about 3.7 or $34 bele in terms of a supplemental. >> in terms of what gets done for us as a country right now, president obama yesterday he said governor perry, quoteing from the president here, he suggested maybe you need to go ahead and act. >> that might convince republicaned they should go ahead and pass the supplemental
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t. president said i had to remind him i'm getting sued by mr. boehner apparently for acting instead of going through congress. with this lawsuit moving ahead today the house republicans framing their relationship with the president in aly ticket just way, does that make things even worse or is that a reflection of how bad they are? >> it certainly doesn't help that's for sure. the lawsuit is friendly on a different fronts. politics trump itself policy most of the time around here. this issue is not going to go away unless we deal with it in congress. we need to deal with it in congress and give the president the tools that he needs, give the administration the tools that they need to be able to solve this problem on our southern border right now f. we don't don't do that, it will be a dereliction of duty. >> when you talk to your republican colleagues aability
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this, when you see them interact in hearings and stuff, do you get the sense there are impulses to try to get this done? >> again, don't fame names, do you feel they're moving in a constructive way? >> there are some on the appropriations committee today that treated it very partisanly, there are others that i felt wanted answers to questions that are reasonable questions. they're thinking folks. and i think i cannot speak for the house republicans, but i think there are not senate republicans that want to do the right thing that will help put this country on a path that it needs to be put on, that i think we will get enough votes. i may be overly optimistic, but i don't think so. i think there are enough reasonable folks on both sides of the aisle we can get this supplemental passed. it may not be what the president has put forth. i think whatever we end up with
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will be something that will accomplish the job that needs to be done on the southern border that, is process these kids, do it humanely and get them back to their homeland. i think that's what needs to happen plus a very strong media effort in guatemala and honduras and el salvador, in particular, to let the parent know if they ship their kids north, it's not going to be as the drug cartel told them it's going to be. >> are you in a position to know how these things may go. i appreciate you helping us understand it tonight. thank you. he is making news with that estimation of how things may go in the senate. much more tonight including the next best thing starring richard nixon like you have never ever heard him before. stay with us.
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. over the weekend, president obama made a surprise trip to afghanistan to join troops. he was joined be brad paisley, he performed about an hour before the president spoke. this is an unannounced trip. on that trip, something strange hammond t. white house sent out a list to news organizations of the names of u.s. officials set to brief the president while he was in afghanistan. a fairly routine thing to do. except this time that list included the name of the cia's station keefe in kabul, afghanistan. that list accident atly outed the highest ranking spy in that country and outed it to 36,000 reporters. >> that happened on memorial day week. terrible. then, last week an employee of
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germany's intelligence agency, their version of the cia was arrested inside germany. reportedly, he confessed to stealing german government secrets and selling them to the cia. the cia cultivated an asset inside germany's intelligence agency, then he got caught. when a cia asset gets caught and confesses, that means the cia gets caught. sense the german government and our government are supposed to be the best of friend, obviously, that will upset germany. germany will be upset we are in their country turning our agents and stealing their stuff when we are supposed to be the special friends. now this in germany, also terrible for the cia. then it gets worse. the day after that guy got arrested in germany, president obama placed a call to chancellor angela murk el of germany, german's role in
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dealing with putin. during that call the two lead, did not talk about a cia asset had been arrested in germany the day before. they did not talk about that matter because nobody told president obama that it had happened. the cia obviously knew their guy had been arrested the day before but nobody told the white house and so the president of the united states called the chancellor of germany having no idea this had happened. the cia didn't tell the president. terrible, right? but, oh, wait, there's more. bought the germans really are mad the cia is recruiting assets inside the german government to steal german secret itself andle is them to us, right? after the intelligence agency guy was arrested the germans summoned the u.s. ambassador and yelled at him and efrlg, right after the u.s. ambassador got summoned, taken to the wood shed by the st go. hey, look it happened again, this one working in the defense
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department suspected of spying on behalf of the u.s. government, stealing government secret itself, selling them to us. if it bears out, germany our great allie who is now really, really mad at us. today german kicked out of that country for germany it's a friend my like pakistan, but germany, when president obama starred his sec term, he appointed john brennan tore the new head of the cia. john brennan said he wanted to stop focusing on killing people. the cia had become a branch of the military but wanted them to check intelligence less traditional spying. now, though, it has been the cia screwing up the spying afternoon
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against our own best allies. outing our own people, outing their own assets, totally not telling the white house what was going on. this is terrible. if this is a sign they are getting back to the work of spying, they're like an agency in transition and are rusty, for if this is an agency that is spoiling. joining us the author of "the way of the night" the cia affection secret army and war the ends of the earth. thank you for being with us. >> thanks for having me on. >> i am not an expert on spy stuff. in the real spying world, isn't it unusual and sloppy to get caught spying on your own allie? >> yeah, you definitely don't want to get caught. if you do, it's unusual certainly to get outed publicly. normally if this hapt. it will be dealt with
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quietly. it's usually abnormal to expel a senior spy what we saw today is extraordinary from the close allie of germany by making an embarrassing statement and saying they want to the americans to buy out. >> what does that say about germany's decision to handle it that way? is this being handled in this unusually loud and confrontational way or does the mean something specifically about their relationship with us and how mad they are? >> i think it's partly politics. it shows they are really mad. i think they feel like the united states doesn't recognize how mad they really are and recall this has been going on for months since the snowden revelations last year that the nsa was spying on angela
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merkel's cell phones, i think this was the feeling the united states didn't appreciate this and appreciate how much of a situation it put merkel in, so what we saw today is not what happened to the last week, but what happens over the last several months. >> let me ask you something specifically ability you reported to the "time's" the president did not apparently know about the cia asset being arrested in germany when he called angela merkel to talk to her about different matters. i would guess the cia director or the agency more broadly is expected to keep the white house apprised of anything that might have consequences and obviously this does. what does that say about what's going on at the cia. what are the consequences that will be here in washington and in langley in terms of how the cia functions in terms of our own government. >> as we reported, it is unclear
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why the white house wasn't told or the president wasn't told about the arrest. it happened at least 24 hours before president obama got on the phone with merkel. you know, why it was bottled up in the cia, where it was bottled up, you know, these are issues that are not just low level events, when you talk about as we said a close allie, you would want to know if are you the president something as important as this because the reason he got on the phone with per kel was to ask her to do something and you need to know if you are going to ask another leader to do something, she might have lever annual over you because of something hammond in her country so if are you the president, you obviously want to foe everything. >> it's astonishing, the thing about your beat and our effort to try to stay apprised of them we know so little of what guess on, what we node about what's going on here is slightly jaw dropping. thanks, mark, it's nice to see
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you, appreciate it. >> thank you. >> there is something coming up on the show next that has to do with pants and even if have you no interest in anything else in the news today, trust me, you want to hear the thing ability pants. even if you hate pants, are you going to want to hear this next thing. that's in effect. pants, trust me. it's never been easier to find a dentist.
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of presidential tape, this oval office audio recording is the single piece of presidential audio tape that ever existed. there is president lyndon b. johnson ordering pants over the phone. when i die, bury me with this tape. >> now the pockets, when you sit down in a chair, the knife and your money comes out. i need at least another inch in the pockets. another thing the crotch down where your nuts hang, it's always a little too tight. so when you make them up, give me an inch that i can let out there because they cut me. it's like riding a wire fence. these are almost, these are the best that i've had anywhere in the united states, but when i gain a little weighing, they cut me under there, so leave me, you never did have mump margin there, see if you can leave me an inch from where the zipper ends is around under my back to
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my bung hole so i can let it out. >> the burp is the best part of the whole thing. i have long believed that is the greatest piece of presidential audio tape that surfaced. that piece of tape has gotten almost unbelievable and equally crude competition from another president. new tames have just been released. they are astonishing. it's a different president. it competes with that. that's next. stay with us, please.
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harden for years before he became president he maintained a secret correspondence with his mistress. all to be let out later this month. by the time he became president, he didn't stop his land in fill landering ways, he had an affair in the coat closet while he was president. giddy up. these letters to his mistress, there are not subtle things, there is not safe for work language. it is very clear what's going on here. because of that, for a while it seemed like this warren harding really dirty love letters were going to be the big news in ex-presidents this month, o, no, oh, no, vanity fair trapped a new treasure trove of nixon tapes, there are audio recordings floating around. they hosted a couple of gems that i do not think have been
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published before. there is president nixon talking with henry kissinger and his chief of staff hchl r. hadderman waxings about the gay. april 1971, i have two clips t. first audio is a little rough at times, listen to this. . let me say the most tolerant person on that of anybody in this shop. they have a problem. they're born that way. and that's all. i think they are boy scout lead es, ymca leaders and others bring them and teachers and do you look over the history of society itself, you will find, of course, that some of the highly intelligent people et cetera all were homosexuals. nero, of course, was.
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in a public which. there's a whole objectives. once a society moves in that direction the vitality goes out of that society. it doesn't change. the romans were notorious -- the greeks -- homosexuals. >> by god, if we happen to have a situation where we pass a law indicating that you can just go out and be gay, they can do it. leave them alone. >> leave them alone, but they will suck all the vitality out of society. richard nixon claiming himself to be very tolerant in the history of homosexuals. that's not the best new thing t. best new thing is the next part of that conversation where president nixon is inform to his utter surprise that ladies in this country occasionally swear. he did not think that women ever
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swear and listen to his reaction when he find out that they do. hitry. >>. >> you got to stop at a certain point. why it that girls who spear because a man, when he swear, people can't tolerate a girl to swear. girls do not. welthey do not. but, nevertheless, it removes then a man drunk and a pan who swears, people are tolerate that and say it's a sign of masculinity. we all swear. you show me a girl that swears and i'll show you an unattractive person. if girls do swear. >> according to president richard nixon, none of the smart girls swear because it removes something from them. so richard 96 isn't good with the gays even if they suck all the vitality out of society. -se good with drunken men swearing. if there is one thing richard nixon cannot abody. >> you show me a girl that
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swaers and ail see you an awful unattractive. >> that judgment of humanity from richard nixon of all people. that is definitely the best thing today. "first look" is up next. good friday morning, everybody, right now on "first look," we have new details on wednesday night's killing spree in suburban houston and the teen being called a hero. house republicans get the ball rolling on their lawsuit against president obama. it didn't take long, though, for the president to fire back. . >> i mean, think about that, you're going to use taxpayer money to sue me for doing my job. while you don't do your job. plus, it's pope versus pope in the world cup final. what could be the worst baseball slide ever. and note to self, do not valet the lambeau. hello, everybody, thanks for joining us on this friday morning. there are new details about the man who went on a murderous rampage wednesday night.
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