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i don't have to run for office again, so i can just, let her rip. >> the strategy isn't striking any fear into speaker boehner. staying the course as both leaders cast a dark cloud over any cooperation in washington this year. and under fire, israelis and palestinians living in fear during constant threats of air strikes and rocket attacks. and today a new strike to israel. this time from lebanon. you'll hear from our team reporting from both sides of an unstable situation. >> at least we're safe in the bomb shelter with the prosecute mature babies. does that sound close?
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>> good day. i'm luke russert in washington filling in for the great andrea mitchell. the immigration impasse continues in congress today where the debate is centered around a 2008 law intended to reduce child trafficking. republican lawmakers and some democrats are pushing to change the law which guarantees young central american refugees a court date before being deported. but the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee told andrea yesterday that idea tacitly supported by the white house is a nonstarter. >> i will not support legislation that rolls back a proposal that was passed in the congress in a bipartisan effort signed by a republican president to take children who have a legitimate risk and could make their case for refugee status or asylum status because of their fear of dying in their country. they need their day in court. >> have you told the white house, senator, that you're not
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going to support changing or rolling back that 2008 law? >> yeah, that's -- i hear if that's what they want to do, then that is something that i will fight here in the senate. >> i'm joined now by congressman luis gutierrez, chairman of the democratic and hispanic caucuses and a member of the subcommittee on immigration. thanks for coming on the program. >> good to be with you, luke. >> this is a fascinating debate that's starting to happen within the democratic party but progressives like yourself are really drawing a line in the sand saying you'll not change this 2008 law. we had henry cuellar on earlier, who says he wants to change this. why is this so important for kids from the central american region and from other places in latin america and around the world to have their day in court related to this law? >> because they're children, and we have decided that we treat children specially. that it's part of the exceptionalism, right, of being americans or that we want the
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united nations high commission on refugees to come in and take care of the problem? no, we take care of our own issues at our border. and i think, luke, here's the real essence. look. in 2002 when dick armey introduced the legislation that created what is now the department of homeland security, he included these ident tical provisions in the bill that created the department of homeland security. in 2007, we voted almost unanimously for the elements in the 2008 bill that were -- it was so uncontroversial that it passed by a voice vote. and each bill was signed into by the president of the united states. why? because children are special. they are especially vulnerable. when you look at the crisis at our border at the humanitarian crisis at our border, we know how those children are getting brought here. they aren't getting brought here willy willny. it's a coordinated effort by a vast criminal enterprise. the same vast criminal
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enterprise of drug cartels that bring the drugs into this country that are bringing and smuggling the children here. and we need to know, do they have -- i just asked the american public. if we saw a child run out of a house across the street from where you live and the house was burning down, would we send the child back into the house until we repaired the house? >> essentially what we're now seeing is these images of children within the borders of the united states sleeping in cages, known as detention facilities but these are the images being beamed out across the world. how does that play within the latino community, and how much will that hurt president obama because some folks are saying this is derived from his policies. >> number one, look. the facts are very, very, very clear. this is the law of the land. and i just want to make sure that we understand -- luke gomer from texas, michele
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bachmann, head of the tea party here in the house of representatives, they all voted to protogether the children when they didn't want to exploit a humanitarian crisis at the border for political gain when there wasn't an election. so all i'm trying to say is let's keep the standard that's made america great. >> sure, but i'm asking you about how this looks when you have kids sleeping in these cages, does that -- and on the president's watch, that has to not play well into the latino psyche of this president's leadership. >> i think what latinos understand. this is an unprecedented humanitarian crisis. and the president is following the law. i watched on your tv station my friend and my colleague raul labrador say, i know it sounds harsh. i know it sounds difficult. he should just deport all the kids. you know what? it's not just that it's harsh and difficult. it would be illegal. first they say we're not going to work with the president to fix our broken immigration system because we don't trust
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him and when he follows the law they say he should violate it. we should pass a clean supplemental so we give the department of homeland security the economic resources they need to put children in a safe place. >> that will be quite the debate for the rest of the summer. they are saying it's too much money requested by the president. congressman luis gutierrez, thank you for coming on the show. from the fight in washington to the fight on the front lines, the u.s. government has been warning people in central america against making the trip north. but it is stopping -- but is it stopping people before they reach the border? that's what president obama is trying do. mark potter is along the border in mcallen, texas, and joins me now. give us an update an the situation. i hear it's going to be a tense weekend there with many more trying to make the trek as the trains are back on track. you have evidence anecdotally that the message of president obama and the u.s. to not send children up north is trickling
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down to central america? >> reporter: well, we hear from the from our reporter down there there have some people who have come up that have talked about that. but it's really hard to know yet whether that messaging is responsible for this little slowdown that we're having right here. let me explain that. in the last few days, the border patrol has said they are getting about 1,000 people a day along the winding rio grande and the rio grande valley here. that's down from 1400 to 1500 a day that we were seeing a few weeks ago. now there may be several reasons for that, including, one, that they are all talking about and that's the train, the beast as it's called, that's bringing central americans up through mexico. it has derailed a couple of times, slowing people's trek northward. and the border patrol says when that happened in january, they had the same thing here. a big slowdown until they could get that train fixed. we're told the train is running again off and on. that's why they say they may have another big weekend. but this is also july.
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a slow month. the smugglers have been selling trips telling people you have to be here by june 30 tot meet a deadline in the united states. that's a fraudulent sales pitch that the criminal organizations were using. and so now the border patrol thinks that maybe some people are reasoning that because it's july, they shouldn't even try. the big question everyone is asking is the one you raised, which is, is the messaging from washington starting to resonate, and that's what they are studying. by talking to people coming in here and by looking at that with the consular officials in central america. but i can tell you from our own experience last night, we have pictures of this. we were out here just half mile away to the east in devil's corner last night on very muddy roads in the rain and people were still coming across the rufr on rafts. the border patrol was picking them up. men, women and children, little kids. and they were being processed. no slowdown, you know, appreciable slowdown in that area. there was a general slowdown
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here but we're not sure if it's a trend or just, you know, a blip. and we'll see what happens this weekend. >> certainly something to keep an eye on. mark potter, thank you for joining us from mcallen, texas. take care. fire crews in washington state are fighting a wildfire that is zero percent contained and has grown to over 18,000 acres. over 250 firefighters are working to contain the flames that could be a major problem in the pacific northwest through the weekend. >> we are looking at this to be a major concern because the heat is so intense out in that part of the country. temperatures are running about 10 to 15 degrees above average and the brush is dry. there hasn't been any rain there for a long period of time. so that is going to help fuel these fires. the kids are asleep. look what i got. oh my froot loops! [sniffs] let's do this? get up! get up! get up! get up! loop me! bring back the awesome... yeah! yeah! yeah! with the great taste of kellogg's froot loops. follow your nose!
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the cia is under fire today accused of spying on one of the u.s.' closest allies. a day after germany expelled the intelligence agency station chief. andrea filed this report on that issue. >> it is an unprecedented breach of tradecraft. america's top spy in germany, the cia station chief, expelled from the u.s. embassy in berlin. sent packing by america's close ally angela merkel. after not one but two cia agents, germans were caught spying on her government last week. and this right under her nose. merkel, privately furious, said pointedly, spying on allies is a waste of energy in the end. this after edward snowden's revelation last year that the nsa was listening in on merkel's cell phone. only two months ago, president obama was still apologizing for that. >> it has pained me to see the degree to which the snowden
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disclosures have created strains in the relationship. >> translator: we have a few difficulties yet to overcome. >> reporter: even worse white house officials claim the cia didn't warn president obama that an american agent had been caught by the germans more than a week ago. so when the president called merkel asking for help against vladimir putin, he didn't know to apologize. in other words, mr. obama was blindsided by his own spies. just as the u.s. needs merkel to pressure putin over ukraine. >> joining me now for our daily fix, nbc news white house correspondent kristen welker and "washington post" national political reporter robert costa. and kristen, i will start with you. obviously, this would be a front page large-scale story if there weren't other things going on that are taking up the white house's attention. but president obama essentially not being informed by his own spies of a huge diplomatic
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misstep. that cannot sit well with the white house this afternoon. >> that's the stunning part of all of this, luke. the fact that he made that phone call to chancellor angela merkel not knowing about these new allegations of spying. i asked one white house official about that. she said the white house is not mad. they're not focusing on who knew what and when. however, you would have to imagine that they are rankled by this. this administration official stressing the importance of the u.s./german relationship. i asked if president obama had reached out to chancellor merkel in the wake of that top cia official being dismissed. at this point, there's no information that he has done so, but i wouldn't be surprised if we saw a phone call if not today, within the coming days because, of course, this is a key relationship for the united states. the u.s. needs germany not just to help pressure russia over ukraine but also there's a lot of intelligence sharing over
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counterterrorism matters. so this is a key ally. there is clearly a lot of concern here at the white house. a big desire to smooth this latest rift, luke. >> andrea mitchell reporting that john kerry will be meet with the germans this weekend in vienna. i'm sure that will be a spirited, interesting meeting. let's turn to some issues at home, bob. it seems that president obama is for the rest of this year and probably the rest of his presidency going to be deadlocked in this trench warfare battle with congress. this week, the house of representatives you saw boehner getting very animated yesterday saying the president hasn't led for 5 1/2 years. now pushing the lawsuit forward, specifically deal with the executive action pertaining to obama care. this is now the new normal, it's fair to say, from here on out. >> i think so. i think boehner's statement on executive actions, limited his lawsuit to abalma careobama car. he's trying to leave the door open for a compromise on
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immigration and border control. how does he repair his relationship with speaker boehner? used to be pretty positive going back to the 2011 talks. can it get back to that level? >> they don't seem to be talking very much at all. it seems they only have these interactions and appearances where they are both booked at. how would an immigration compromise perhaps during -- we're not going to see a large scale one in terms of reform that would change how people are here now or the process coming in. is there a way you can get some sort of compromise on this supplemental fund regqueing reqe president has asked for. what's the pathway there. >> we heard a lot of lawmakers talking about having some kind of compromise on deportations, quickening deportations. a lot of democrats wir democrat this. the republicans know they'll not get the sweeping package. they need to address this crisis. both sides seem to acknowledge that. >> just real quickly, do you
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realize the ramifications of what's happening here in terms of -- obviously, they want to hold on to this for 2014 but going into 16, that seems to play more with the establishment figures. >> a lot of people think they have to do something on immigration, perhaps something big. who has the political capital to really push something through this conservative house of representatives? paul ryan is pretty quiet. speaker boehner is yelling at the administration. so who is there? where is the leadership to push this immigration bill through? >> kristen, there's been a lot made of president obama's recent sort of adventures, this whole idea the bear is loose, that president obama said to hell with it to washington. i'm going to go out and go to restaurants, talk to people, get positive local news stories. from your hearing and from your reporting, is that the new normal now at the white house that we're going to wash our hands of this, do what we have to do, it's required by law but really try and sell our message elsewhere? >> i tong some extent it is the new normal, luke. they acknowledge they've got a lot of criticism for the
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decision not to have the president visit the border. but they think that they made the right decision and that those optics we saw coming out of his trip, meet with so-called regular americans, having a beer, playing pool, they say that ultimately it shows that the president is engaging with ordinary americans on issues like the economy which this white house believes is a strong one. to your point about getting something actually done, i think you can anticipate in the coming weeks, the president is going to continue with this trend that we have seen of passing more executive orders. next week i can tell you he's going to be holding more events on the economy. and on the point of immigration, as you know, this administration has said that by the end of this summer, they will likely announce some executive actions to reform the immigration system. so i think that this is the new normal here that the white house believes is politically in the best interest of the president right now. luke? >> kristen welker, keep tabs on the bear. and bob and i will keep tabs on
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the wolf on capitol hill. thanks for being on the show. >> thanks. you're in for a treat today. we're starting a new segment here on "andrea mitchell reports." every single friday, a look back at andrea covering some of the biggest stories of the day throughout her illustrious 35-year-plus career. for our furst flashback friday, we're taking you back to the tail end of bill clinton's presidency on this day, july 11th, back in 2000 in camp david and yet another push for middle east peace. >> as the summit begins, they can't even agree on who enters first. a friendly tussle at the door. bill clinton smooths the way. they will walk in together side by side. no one thinks the real issues will be resolved so easily. at camp david, the first ground rule. a news blackout until it's over. >> we pledged we would answer no questions and offer no comments. so i have to set a good example.
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>> the president meets first with arafat, then with barak. before the first talks begin in laurel lodge, one of several cottages used by jimmy carter for his summit 22 years ago. today, more than two decades later, clinton confronts many of the same disputes. the president before leaving for camp david. >> the two leaders face profound and wrenching questions and there can be no success without principled compromise. >> so what are the chances of real success? >> if they can break any of the logjams on these very difficult issues of refugees and settlements and boundaries and jerusalem and move the process forward, i think that should be deemed to be a success. >> the talks are expected to last at least a week in what is surely bill clinton's last chance to achieve a middle east peace. andrea mitchell, nbc news, at the state department. >> truly a renaissance woman. 14 years later, still persistent
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forward protecting israel. what are we seeing within the country? obviously we saw your reports from bomb shelters. how will the prime munster's message play in israel that they are theep happy to go it alone? >> i think israel is very happy to go it alone but not for long. the pressure on israel always grows when they have these conflicts arise with the palestinians. the shooting like two years ago or three years ago and five years ago. israel always gets a certain amount of time to try to suppress those rockets and international pressure builds because of the rise of civilian deaths in gaza. we've had 103, i believe, palestinians already killed in gaza in four days. these israeli rocket attacks. there's support in israel for the prime minister, of course, to stop those rockets. and as the prime minister said and as president obama said, the support for israel's defense internationally, question is how long will that support last. and netanyahu was very careful.
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he spoke with president obama, spoke with the german leader angela merkel. other international leaders giving them all the same message which is that, look. he says if berlin was bombed, he told angela merkel, would you respond or take it? same thing, president obam ara rockets hit. that's netanyahu's argument. it only buys a certain amount of time. and as long as the ground invasion from israel is still on the cards in order to stop those rocket attacks, so pressure will build on israel not to launch a ground operation. the question is how does israel stop those rockets? >> martin fletcher in israel, thank you so much. let's turn to the palestinian side of the conflict. that would be ayman mohyeldin from nbc who joins us now live from gaza on the phone. and ayman, we're -- there you are. nice picture. possibility that we can see a ground invasion from israel. militants have said they'd respond to that by going after the tel aviv airport.
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what's the mood on the ground there? are palestinians ready to have an all-out long fight as some of their leaders have indicated? >> certainly the palestinian factions led by hamas has expressed a very defiant tone. they have been playing all kinds of propaganda material showcasing some of the penalty capabilities and some of those videos they are taunting the israelis saying gaza is waiting for you. since 2008 when they had the last ground invasion here into gaza, hamas has certainly developed its capabilities. we've seen that in terms of rocket capabilities in terms of some of the amphibious capableities. and there's no reason to doubt it has also developed some of the ground capabilities in terms of being able to fight off an israeli invasion. not necessarily prevent it from happening but certainly making it very complicated for the israeli military. part of the reason is because gaza is so densely populated.
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if israel invades gaza it would have to fight in some of the neighborhoods on the border. very much in an urban warfare setting. and that would be difficult for the israeli military against some of the challenges that the hamas militants say they have prepared for them. on the ground there's a growing concern among the civilian population and humanitarian aid organizations that a ground invasion would lead to a spike in casualties and the infrastructure of gaza, the health infrastructure of gaza cannot cope with a spike in the death toll if there's a ground invasion like we saw in 2008. >> nbc's ayman mohyeldin. thanks for joining us. and breaking news -- a report from "sports illustrated" that lebron james is heading back to cleveland. let me repeat that again. "sports illustrated" reporting that lebron james is heading back to cleveland. returning four years -- after four years away and two
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championships in miami. this is the biggest thing to happen to cleveland in the history of that city. lebron james is set to return to the tortured city on lake erie, once referred to as the mistake by the lake, to pursue an nba championship. stay with us here an msnbc. a lot to talk about. lebron james going back to cleveland. oh, my goodness. ! on car insurance? no problem. you want to save money on rv insurance? no problem. you want to save money on motorcycle insurance? no problem. you want to find a place to park all these things? fuggedaboud it. this is new york. hey little guy, wake up! aw, come off it mate! geico. saving people money on more than just car insurance.
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>> so explain to americans what exactly this does. the federal government already does this with their contractors and suppliers, tries to pay them as quick as possible. it's quick pay. president obama started that in 2011. what companies have signed on to this and why does it matter? >> the sba is well known for its ability to provide access to capital through our lending partners and government venture. but businesses also want consultation. so sba has a vast network of partners that we consult through. but after you have consultation you have a good business plan and after you have your access to capital, you want to get work. you want contracts. and so the government is the largest procurer in the world. the sba directs 23% of that to small businesses to help create and grow and scale up small businesses. with this announcement, what it does is the president's supplier pay program, it allows us to also focus on the private sector. so we led by example by saying
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we're going to be paying small businesses within 15 days. today we met with corporations that are willing to do the same. to take this leadership example and promulgate it through their own corporations. some 5 them, many of which have been already doing it. so we heard wonderful examples about how this can spur economic activity, get businesses to large corporations to be more competitive in the international marketplace and small businesses can turn more dollars and local communities and create more jobs. >> have the companies said how long they will do this for and abide by it? >> many of them, for example, ibm. not only are they doing it, but ibm announced they've already pulled together 26 other corporations who have agreed to do this along with them through the ibm supplier connection. so we've seen models such as that. we heard today from pg&e out in san francisco in california and they said not only are they providing access to contracts. they are also having equity infusions in companies. actually investing in them.
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to make certain they also have some capital invested and they become partners with them. so lots of great case -- best practices we heard here today. >> this is all fine and dandy. i want to ask you, what is the white house doing to work on the larger scale issues of procuring the highway trust fund moving forward, making sure unemployment benefits can be restored because they have a spur on the economy. there's a direct impact there. these two issues have been hung up in congress. is the white house moving aggressively on those? are we going to see more of these executive actions of small-scale roll-outs like this? >> i am a former transportation gal. california's former secretary of transportation. and i can tell you that the leverage point on transportation infrastructure investments is key. so we've got to make certain that we get this funded. people want to anticipate. small businesses tell me every day that one of the keys is dependability. they want to be able to predict
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the future so that they can get ready with their subprimes. so we want to make certain that we pass an infrastructure strategy that makes sense, that is enduring and predictable. >> can the white house do more with congress to make that happen? it seems that speaker boehner says he's not going to move on unemployment benefits until the white house has an idea and sort of said the same thing along the lines of the highway bill. >> thank you. i can tell you that small businesses across the country are calling me and saying they want a congress that works. they want to make sure that this civil -- this lack of civility is not serving anybody. and it is certainly not serving our small businesses. so we will continue to voice and voice over that we want certainty for small businesses so they can continue to grow n provide for their families as all americans want to have. >> maria contreras, thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thanks, luke. be in touch. the president's congressional work arounds are a sign of how bad the relationship is between the white house and republicans on capitol hill.
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>> the best thing you can say about this congress, the republicans in congress and particularly the house of representatives, the best thing you can say for them is that so far they have not shut down the government. >> joining me now is congressman steve israel. thank you for being on the show. >> good to be with you. been on twice already today. i hope they are paying you overtime. >> a lot of innings in this arm, sir. thank you for noticing that. i want to get into this sort of -- it seems to be the new normal now, which is that we're engaged in this trench warfare between congress and the white house. is this what americans can come to expect for the rest of 2014 heading into 2016? >> as long as you have a republican majority that insists on suing the president, that refuses to pass an immigration bill, that refuses to pass an infrastruct are bill, that refuses to do almost anything, this is what the american people can expect, but it is not what
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the american people deserve. and we know why they are doing this. these are not principles. these are political strategies. they are doing these things in order to excite their base in a midterm election and turn them out. the problem with that strategy is it's actually having the effect of exciting the democratic base and independent voters who just don't want the republican congress to be suing another branch of the government. >> and congressman israel, we'll have more from you later in the show. i'm sorry, though. king james is making his decision known and that bumps you out. thank you for joining us. more on our breaking news. a report from "sports illustrated" that lebron james is heading back to cleveland, returning home after four seasons and two championships in miami. lebron told "sports illustrated," quote, when i left cleveland, i was on a mission. i was seeking championships, in and we won two. but miami already knew that feeling. our city hasn't had that feeling in a long, long time. my goal is still to win as many
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titles as possible. no question. but what's most important for me is bringing one trophy back to northeast ohio. oh, my goodness. joining me now on the phone is sports talk show host mark "munch" bishop. if he can win this title, the greatest story in sports in this millennium. >> it has transcended just about anything. overboard yesterday when they compared the former -- to the statue in rio de janeiro. but the bottom line is the words i wanted to hear were championship for cleveland. if you remember, lebron -- now he's calling it our city, our championship. you know, one of the biggest attractors.
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>> what's remarkable about this, munch, is that here's lebron james who is so vilified and this is the prodigal son to use a bible term, coming back to cleveland. how much of this do you think is derived from the guys around him, his very close entourage who are all ohio bred, who maybe said to him, you accomplished what you wanted to accomplish. it's time we come back home as a team and do this together. >> luke, i love giving you stuff first. bottom line is, most of this team, most of the guys from northeast ohio were the ones that pushed him away to start with. i have to give credit where credit is due. rich paul, one of his four horseman, had his voice been heard four years ago, this never would have happened. rich has been trying to get him back to northeast ohio. mr. james listened to him and was able to transcend quote/unquote, things that happened. i'll say this. it's good for the city, which is great for the city, but for the
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convention coming here, cleveland is rising. it's good for me. i'm excited for the revitalization of the good city of cleveland. >> as a big friend of buffalo, new york, a fellow city on lake erie that's gone through so much sports trauma, i think i can speak asbuffalonian that we're happy for our cousins in cleveland. stay with us. we're going to talk a lot more about lebron james and how he overcame the dan gilbert letter. more after the break. thanks. important legal matters in just minutes. now it's quicker and easier for you to start your business, protect your family, and launch your dreams. at legalzoom.com we put the law on your side. this is kathleen. setting up the perfect wedding day begins with arthritis pain and two pills. afternoon arrives and feeling good, but her knee pain returns... that's two more pills. the evening's event brings laughter, joy, and more pain... when jamie says... what's that like six pills today?
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after he left four years ago. said some things in there where he called him a coward. said the king was in fact, a queen and there were a lot of folks in lebron's camp that said it was hard for lebron james to get over this and play once again for a guy like dan gilbert. what do you now? how were they able to patch up that relationship? >> the bottom line, i do want to point this out, that the letter was never written if lebron had the courtesy to call dan gilbert before the decision. also he refused to court ray allen when he was here so there was some animosity. when the letter was written it was wrun by us, the people of cleveland. dan has to transcend that being an owner, but he wears emotions on his sleeve. i supported the letter wholeheartedly. now mr. james is able to also man up and realize that the
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letter was never written if he didn't leave the way he left. he was able to leave. i had no problem with him leaving but this whole thing behind him was a bit too much. a lot of people were telling him, you can't go back there controlling you with that letter. he was automobible to see throu. >> got into a whole discussion of pride. >> i want to bring in "today's" jenna wolf of nbc who is on the streets of cleveland. it's got to be pandemonium there. people were lining up outside lebron james' akron, ohio, home yesterday. you saw pictures of dozens of cars. people wearing t-shirts that say forgiveness. come back home, king. we love you. what an unbelievable day for cleveland, ohio. >> just to give you an idea of how much it was. there was pandemonium before he made this decision. when there was even a possibility that he was coming
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back, i mean, this rumor started swirling months and months ago it just built so much momentum. we've been here the last two days. and it is just -- people, did you hear? did you hear? it is on everybody's mind. so this finally broke it. finally like we don't remember anything. the past is completely forgotten. all is forgiven. just come home and start winning. and that's basically the common sentiment from everybody. let's get a fresh start. let's get this thing going. how soon can you start. >> it's remarkable. munch, as someone who has watched cleveland sports offer the years, johnny manziel, cleveland browns. that seemed to start a new era. oh, look at that. a new instagram from lebron with a picture of him in a cavs uniform saying "i'm coming home." the republican convention coming to cleveland. just talk about what this means for a city that's had so much
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heartache. next to buffalo, you guys have had it the worst. you haven't had a world -- 1954? >> so many terrible moments with the cleveland browns. the indians losing in game seven in the '97 world series. what a just terrible, just monkey off the back of cleveland. cleveland is a winner. cleveland is a winner today! >> 1964 for the browns over the colts. cleveland is a big, big winner. everything is aligning. any time you come to town, dinner is on me. i have two kids in college. we've got a spare room. we'll show you around the city. you'll fall in love with it. take cleveland, detroit, toss chicago in there and milwaukee. these are great american cities. but decimated because of the blue collar leaving and the economy. but this is a day of ecstasy and
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jubilation as i like to call it on the north coast of america. >> the rust belt has won today. miami and l.a. and new york, they get all the attention. but the rust belt has won and we are thankful for that. jenna wolfe, on the streets of cleveland, one thing a lot of people missed is the first time lebron james left, there's a real economic impact on the surrounding businesses around the arena. also in the psyche of cleveland. businesses have to be thrilled with this. think about all the people pouring in to see lebron james. think about all the folks who want to be in cleveland now. this has to have a huge impact on tourism. >> it absolutely does. and it's not just the businesses in and around the stadium. we spoke to a lot of small business owners who were so thrilled. just so thrilled with the possibility of new traffic coming in that they already, it seemed things were going to be better for them. there are a lot of businesses here in town that have these
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great fun contests going. i'll give lebron a share of my business if he'll come back. i'll give you free slurpees for a year if you come back. so much going on. businesses are tripping over themselves to bring customers in because they know customers are finally coming in. you see people are just happy. in the last hour and a half, people are justice happier on the streets. we just pulled up at a zoo as we're driving by. kids are jumping up and down. i kid you not. this entire city is like, across the city, there is so much jubilation. kids wearing t-shirts. he's finally coming home. it only happened like less than an hour ago. they are already wearing them. this city, not just economically but the psychological impact of him coming back is just going to make such a wonderful world of difference. >> it's phenomenal. and munch, one thing that we have in buffalo and that is in cleveland which is so tough is there's this sense of self loathing. that we're losers because of what happens to our sports history because of the tough economic times that we've faced
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in the last 20 to 30 years. just talk about if you are a young kid today, growing up in cleveland, this sounds crazy, but hope transcends through sports. and lebron james just gave an entire generation of northeast ohio kids hope for the future. >> you know, some of these same kids, i have a 14-year-old who cried the day four years ago who is smiling today. and i'm glad you pointed this out. i've talked to business owners in the suburbs 40 miles away. they felt the impact in sports bars, et cetera, when james left the first time around. so it is a great day for the city. agone, it's good for the city. the revitalization. it's real good for me and it's good for all of us. it's for the people, my friends. >> indeed. and jenna, i think your stories are so fascinating. just talking about driving past
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a zoo. kids jumping up and down. you have obviously been out in the field a lot. you've reported on a lot of things. it's not a lot of times the united states that we see the sort of collecti ivive whole be so excited about it. you see it with national sporting events, but that's about it. talk about that feeling just the unified jubilation in cleveland. >> the thing is, the day after lebron left, the cleveland cavaliers turned into underdogs and the city felt like they were underdogs. perennial underdogs. they felt like -- they said it to me. we felt like losers. now that they come back, it's a sense of, hey, you know what? we've got a shot. other small towns have a shot. we're not going to be -- we're going to stand up and puff our chest out and we're worth something. we've got lebron james coming back. businesses coming in. and good things are happening. there's a sense of pride. this renewed pride that left
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four years ago when this guy took off. now he's coming back. it's not just that they got this big superstar. they got a superstar who is from here who gets it, who was born an hour away in akron who wants to sort of finish what he started. and it's this great storybook script that's just being written the way, you know, that only genius writers in hollywood could make this whole thing pan out. >> this would be dismissed as hollywood as not being possible. that's how extraordinary it is. munch, let's look to the future a little bit here. it's hard for me to see lebron james getting the typical sports talk criticism over the next few years. he at least has a two to thre three-year grace period for his performance on the court, right? >> no doubt. we enabled all his antics and the last time around. it's going to be the same this time, too. of course, the honeymoon has just begun again.
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i've got to get this out because some also let it be known if he did not come back because a lot of us felt he would go to miami for one or two years. this is it. you can't leave us at the altar two years. i'll give him props to realize that. >> without a doubt. jenna wolfe, i'll sort of close out with you. give you a final word here. when you see what's happening on the streets of cleveland, what is it compared to in your mooin? have you ever seen anything like that? >> i haven't. only because i've never been in a city where a hometown kid comes back and makes good. it's just a great story. and it's a feel-good story. that's what these guys are excited about. that's why there's so much forgiveness. if it was a different guy who played and left and came back and you always think of the financial aspect to it. there's a part of lebron that wants to finish what he started at home. for a team he rooted for when he was younger, when he was in high school and played and that's
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what he wants to come finish. >> jenna wolfe, thanks for being here. big news. lebron james back to cleveland. before we go, there's a wonderful birthday today. we want to wish a very happy 100th birthday, yes, 100th birthday to sydney mitchell. that's the father of andrea. that's why she's not here today. she's from west lebanon, new hampshire. watches the news all the time. loves his children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren. loves watching movies and tv. watches "nightly" every night. loves his daughter andrea right now here on msnbc and nbc news. he still prays a lot for his beloved wife, partner,y is seal. th cecille. sydney mitchell, here's to 100 more. god bless. "ronan farrow daily" is next. it's time for the "your business" entrepreneur of the week. jennifer beal is the founder of l.a.-based clean bee baby. an eco-friendly cleaning service
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